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this is Bay radio then just gone quarter
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past 10 Mainland Spain could a bus nine
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UK Nikon area so Tuesday morning we're
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at 23rd of May today and going to talk
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to Carlos Carlos uh who is actually I
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don't know where you are good morning
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Carlos how are you hi hello good morning
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whereabouts well uh now I am in Madrid
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right uh flying to flying today to
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Valencia okay uh but but I'm originally
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from Portugal I'm a Portuguese guy okay
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now we're talking uh Inspire the group
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um you are the group medical director
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for this I've been teasing this up a
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couple of times uh at the Hair Company
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it says it didn't really use the word
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Clinic because just tell us about what
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you do there and give some idea okay I
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um I am the chief clinical officer of
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the group so uh I'm the leader of the
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clinical area uh being it uh the air
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transplants the alopecia treatments like
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mesotherapy like BRP and and some others
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and I'm also the leader of our research
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group because we are uh the only the
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only clinical group in this area
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operating in this area that has its own
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uh Research Center which is divided in
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in two in two branches the technology
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and the biomedical which is which is
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no I see 10 clinics within the group
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there and a pretty well-known co-founder
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of the group tell us about that
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yeah well uh we started like 14 years
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um and uh when we well uh and in
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Portugal we we did air transplants to
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lots lots lots of uh football players
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very well-known football players
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National and international and so uh our
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our partner Cristiano Ronaldo uh he knew
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us and he wanted to know about us he was
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uh he was willing to to invest in uh in
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in the health uh sector and he visited
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us he already had very good uh
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um should I say very good Impressions
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about us coming from from his colleagues
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and and friends that that he knew that
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the the address was with us so we came
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and visited us uh this was there was a
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big coincidence because uh we were
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preparing our expansion our
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International expansion because we only
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we were only in Portugal and uh so so we
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entered the group he's he's our partner
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uh and we started we started the the
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expansion we we changed the name to
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inspire we had another name a Portuguese
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name it shouldn't be readable anywhere
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else but Portugal sure so so we had to
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change the the name and created the
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brand Inspire which comes from
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inspiration yes and the inspiration in
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Inspiration in growing inspiration in
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doing everything well in in
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um bringing the best to to this to this
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area uh and that's what we do yeah they
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did offer us Cristiano to talk to and I
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said no no I want to speak to Carlos the
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group there's a group medical director
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for inspire so in Spain then with the
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clinics and this used to be I mean
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footballers have been the example I mean
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by the way I played Elton John just a
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few minutes ago and he's a a definite
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early example of people having work done
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as far as hair transplants go but
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um Wayne Rooney uh you know if him he
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had um yeah yeah that worked on it seems
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it would look pretty good so and it does
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these days doesn't it works really well
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because you'll notice yes it's not like
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a wig it's not something you're sticking
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on it's just tell us about the process
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how it works because you're using their
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real hair yeah I believe I believe
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Rooney will be even better if he if you
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need their transplant with us but well
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no but the address plant is is very
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uh uh um what I mean with is complex and
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simple it's complex because it it needs
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to be done by people that do it very
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well that are very well trained uh you
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need to to have it done with the best
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technology in the market but at the end
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it is very simple our hair on the on the
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on the laterals and on the occipital
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area the the back side is different from
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the air we have at the top the people
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that suffer from from androgenic
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alopecia uh they they get bald because
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ages faster so it starts getting smaller
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and smaller and smaller and then it
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cut the air from the sides and the back
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of our of our health of our scalp as a
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different genetic information
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so it doesn't age this fast and that's
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this this difference it's it's what we
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uh um we we take advantage of this
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difference so we transplant the air the
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air follicles from this area which we
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call the donor area to the recipient
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area and we do it one by one that's why
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it's called fuv follicular unit
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extraction because we extract wonderful
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ingredient by by one follicle unit and
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how you do it and the expertise of the
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people who do this makes a big
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difference uh on the on the on the
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results you have because you have uh I
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won't say names of the ones of the
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famous ones that have better transplants
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but you have several several famous
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people uh with air transplants and they
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have a bad result and then you have
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amazing results like Mark testagen like
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pin solo uh like so many so many
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football players uh to whom we did we
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did the egg transplants
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a friend of mine had it done I'm not
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sure if it was with you or not um he
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went to Madrid and he's very young so
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it's it's a psychological thing isn't it
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it's not just a vanity project for some
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people just because they start to lose
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theirs but yeah if you are young and
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it's you're really losing your hair then
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it's um it has a real effect on you
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yeah it's uh losing hair when you're you
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are young or old it depends on you uh it
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affects your self-esteem so it's
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psychological uh in some people some
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people suffer from depression uh for
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losing their hair and you can't control
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it it's not it's not a vanity thing as
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you say but there is another another
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very important aspect that I always talk
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to my patients and in in the interviews
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also which is the hair is the protection
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for the scalp yeah sure if you don't
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have if you don't have air and if you
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live in countries like Portugal like
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Spain with with all the sun we have with
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us with the sun exposure that we have
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you if you don't have hair protecting
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your scalp you you you will have sun
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damages and some of these Sun damages
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they can turn into a cancer into a
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malignant cancer so when you do a net
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transplant you you you give back some
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some the protection you lost uh during
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the developedia process yes so it's not
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it's not vanity it's not aesthetic it's
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way more than that way more than that
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this protection it's prevention it's
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Health prevention which is very
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important uh these days uh and it is of
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course also helping to to treat some
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self-esteem problems some some
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depression problems so it's way more
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than than just uh that's why it should
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it should be taken seriously and when
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you choose the clinic where to do it you
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should be aware you should know where
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you do it not going somewhere taking a
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plane you know what I mean and go and
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going to do to do an air transplant as
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if it is uh going and have a beer with a
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friend no it's not the same yes it's
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something that you should think about it
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sure is it available to everyone are
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there exceptions does someone turn up
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and you say look we can't do this
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in English some non-indications for the
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air transplant some some kinds of
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alopecia where you can't do the the air
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transplant for instance if you have a
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frontal fibrosis frontal fibrosis
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alopecia I'll say strange names but if
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you have a Lincoln Plano pillar is
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leaking you can do it if you have an
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arriata which is people know better the
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area alopecia uh there's no indication
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for their transplant but if you have uh
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for instance a scar alopecia after after
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a burning and if the skin supports the
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receiving the the grafts uh there is an
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indication if you have androgenic
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alopecia there is an indication so most
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of alopecias have an indication for a
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transplant sure then of course you
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people talk about you didn't you didn't
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you didn't talk about it but people talk
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a lot about the economics factor and
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a good procedure done by by experts
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can't be shipped but it's not so
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expensive so and in each party we also
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uh work with some with some companies
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that allow you to pay your transplant
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each month monthly so uh if you want to
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do it you can do it there's no no excuse
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well it's one of those things that if
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someone's you know desperate to get it
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done they will just do whatever and
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that's where the money will go what the
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um yeah yeah you I mean you're talking
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about as you say to these moving the
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follicles one by one how long does that
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take how long are we talking about I
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suppose it depends how much you've got
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to do but is it a long process well it
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uh in this far it's not so long because
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uh with the with our new technology we
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we just launched the new technology uh
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which was developed in our in our
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technological Center which is called
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botter Ultra Plus and this device it not
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only uh helps the the doctors to to make
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the the excision the extraction of the
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legal unit aspirates the follicular unit
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it storage is the political units in a
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in a container with with a preservation
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solution under control the temperature
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and then this device has also
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um two other these pieces which one to
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to do the institutions to to to receive
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the follicle unit and another which is a
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multi-implanter that allows the the the
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the doctors and nurses to implant uh 25
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follicles with just one movement which
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is amazing wow yeah yeah yeah so so with
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this with this technology uh with our
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one and a half to two hours for
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extraction we're talking about more than
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4 000 follicle units okay which is
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amazing four thousand fully Korean this
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000 air new hair wow uh so so they say
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maximum two hours to extract and two and
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a half hours to to implants so this will
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be done this will be done in one visit
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they don't need to keep coming back yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the
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patients arrive around 8 30 and uh if
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everything goes well with no with no
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delays around 4 P.M people are going
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home happy and with new hair so it's not
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it's it's not a long long long procedure
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yeah you've sent me a very useful list
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of questions here somebody has um in
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some of the basic ones like does it hurt
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is it a painful procedure having that
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done well after after the the local
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anesthesia it is not of course if you go
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to the dentist you have to to have the
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anesthesia so you feel you feel the the
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the the first injection after that you
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don't feel anything inner transplant is
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the same we can say it's uh you don't
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feel any pain because you you will need
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the the the the anesthesia after that
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sure and um what about I mean anyone
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since we've been talking about this
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would picture a man you know being
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performed on a male that we're talking
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about footballers and the like
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um is it only for men this treatment no
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no of course not of course androgenic
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alopecia affects more men than women but
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it's both for men and women uh uh in uh
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in women patients we we should be care
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about other things because in some
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female patients uh uh the dendrogenic
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alopecia has not the same distribution
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as it has in in uh in uh in male
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patients because in some some of the
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females they they some females they have
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these follicular units uh within the
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genetic information to fall they
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sometimes they are mixed in the donor
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area so we should know it so you should
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be aware of it and the only perform a an
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air transplant when uh when it is
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indicated but yeah you we we do both men
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and women are transplants we you do also
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beard transplant so uh yeah it's not
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only male hair transplant to what we can
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do that'd be a thing as well because um
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obviously beards um it's it's become a
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big thing I was trying to support one
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myself not everyone has um a full
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luxuriant beard there will be patchy uh
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bits you can I suppose you can um touch
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that up so that it's all even and you
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know it takes up the the sort of areas
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where this hair is missing you could
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make it very neat if that is a vanity
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thing I suppose but is that is that sort
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of thing you can do as well yeah we can
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do it of course and it's in in this in
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that case it's different it's a it's an
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aesthetic thing because there's not no
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advantage on having your hair on the
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face so it's it's an aesthetic thing
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that's why uh this is an interesting uh
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the air transplant has no vat and the
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trans the beard transplant sbat because
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it is only aesthetic it is important and
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uh yeah yeah it's interesting uh yeah
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um no I was going to say so you're
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you're taking these follicles from an
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area where there's you know plenty of
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Hair there does that area recover uh
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does it um is that the damage for for
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good or is it uh sort of repair itself
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if you like yeah I wouldn't say damage
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okay it can be damaged if if they are
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transferred is not well done if you have
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an over harvesting for for instance but
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uh no it doesn't it doesn't recover it's
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a transplant so you transplant you take
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the graft from one side to the other
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it's like doing a kidney transplant if
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you if you are a donor of a kidney you
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lose your kidney sure and you keep one
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so it's exactly the same when we
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transplant when we transplant we
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transplant your follicular units so in
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that small place which is very very
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small uh in that small place there won't
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grow any any new air so that's another
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reason reason why you should do should
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undergo a neck transplant in a certified
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Clinic where you know what people do
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when where you know that people are
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experts on this because one of the
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problems I I see so many times uh is is
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patience coming from one country I won't
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say the name and they come with over
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donor areas so to to to to have new hair
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in the recipient area you get damage
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destroyed on the air and that's it
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that's awful sure and then the hair
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that's been transplanted is that that's
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permanent then it's not going to just
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last for a few years that that all
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that's there is it for good well yeah it
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at least with with uh with a human being
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living till I don't know 100 years it is
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permanent we don't know that if
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sometimes we live uh like 300 years uh
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we don't know if the if if we'll have
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enough air Cycles uh to have air all the
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time but regarding the life expectancy
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of of a an average human being yeah it's
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for Life yeah sure it's not like it
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comes long I mean I mean people have
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their teeth done and that that lasts
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just for a few years and they have to
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have them redone but this is this is you
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know in there it's not going to fall out
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after a number of number of years no no
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no okay now uh if the egg transplant is
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well done over 90 to 95 percent of the
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liquid units transplanted will uh will
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will raise new hair and uh so and it
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will last for all your life as the as
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the the the air that you don't touch in
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the dryer it's exactly the same it just
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move it from from place but it keeps all
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the genetics all the the uh
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uh durability like this that the
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original one end yeah and presumably
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there'll be the initial consultation
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where what sort of questions will you
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ask you know if someone comes along and
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have this done yeah yeah we in inspire
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you we have a free consultation
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absolutely free not nothing nothing
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hidden there absolutely free
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consultation with with a clinical
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consultant and a medical doctor where we
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do the diagnosis uh usually diagnosis is
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clinical purely clinical so you don't
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need any any blood tests done you don't
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need nothing special we we always use
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precoscopy to to evaluate glucoscopies
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like magnifying the scalp uh with uh
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with the device and we we see the
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pictures on computer and it is very
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important to evaluate not only the
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recipient but also the the donor area
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and uh after this evaluation we we
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propose the best treatments for
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did you draw on them do you draw the
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sort of hairline house what is going to
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because it's also it's the first time
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where we create the the first idea how
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the patient will get at the end so it's
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very important to draw the line at the
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first at the first consultation so the
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truly understands what uh what is
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receiving at what what we can do for for
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them but most important is uh the also
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this consultation being done for for
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someone who knows what what they're
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doing and and to propose the patient
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what he can receive because the worst
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thing is having the expectations too
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high and because we have limitations
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that all the patients have their
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limitations limitations on donor area
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limitations on the on the the type of of
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alopecia they have so it's very
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important that this is done in clinics
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where people don't sell for selling
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where people propose proper treatments
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to the patient okay and then once once
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they've had it done you'll provide all
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the Aftercare and all the information
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and what they can and can't do and how
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long before they can do something again
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um so it was interesting to find out
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that this is a medical thing so it said
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you say vat free Eva free for the air on
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your head because it's
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fascinating all right so um what's the
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best way to get in touch I mean the
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group uh website inspire.com Inspire dot
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ts are in Portugal inspired dot PT or
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dot r dot 80 if you are in Italy but
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well if you use the import in in Spain
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we are in Spain so the dot es will have
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all the information where you can also
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understand uh that Inspire as I told at
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the beginning of our of our nice talk uh
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inspired is not only a clinical group we
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are uh the the most advanced technology
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technological group in this area because
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we have the the the research center The
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Inspired science and clinical Institute
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which is based in in Porto in Porto
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Portugal where you can have a very good
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and where we where we Perform This
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research being it's technological and
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the biomedical that both researches we
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with uh with very important universities
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in technological area our main aim is to
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develop a robot that will do the whole
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transplant with assistance of a doctor
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but we'll do the whole transplant from
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extraction to to implantation of the of
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the aircraft and in the biomedical area
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our main goal is that is multiplying the
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follicle units in lab uh like I don't
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like to to use this uh this word but for
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people to understand more or less to
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clone the the air follicles and this way
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imagine now for transplanting 4 000
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follicle units I have to harvest 4 000
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follicle units imagine imagine if I can
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Harvest like 100 follicle units and
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multiply it in in lab and and getting
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like 10 000 political units it would be
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amazing fascinating uh that's the future
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yeah but running out of time Carlos so
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sorry to interrupt you but thanks ever
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so much it's been fascinating and I'll
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just spell the website out so Inspire so
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i-n-s-p-a-r-ya y a.com we'll get you
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there and you'll be able to get it in
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English thank you for your time and um
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thank you this is Bay radio just about
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