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KAL has settled then from the greatest showman, of course. Bay Radio at 10 past 10 and mainland Spain, 10 past 9
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UK and Canaries, we're here for Thursday morning, and nothing better than a big high-kicking show tune to introduce our next guest
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John Gorns back on this show again after last week as well. Should be able to hear me. Good morning
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Good morning. It's very early, my friend. I'm looking forward to getting back with Cal in the afternoons
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No, that's because I was going to mention that. That is it how different is it for you, not having how
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most of the day to get wound up about the daily news stories. Your first thing in the morning here
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I think like most people around the world, you don't have to have a warm-up to get wound up at the moment
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This COVID thing is affecting everybody and everything. So I think we're all preoccupied with it
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You know, and things are just getting worse at the moment. And the thing is, the danger is people are retreating to their bunkers
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We saw it in Parliament the other day. It's basically tribal warfare, isn't it
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and no one wants to listen to the other side's opinion. And if I'm honest, myself, I've got caught up in that
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When we had the debate the other day with Boris, it was just MP after MP trying to make a name for themselves And undoubtedly Kier Starman now is being an opportunist trying to stitch up Boris over the lockdown
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But he's not even proposing a proper lockdown, if we're being honest, this sort of circuit break
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And also, I'm very worried now that the Union itself, you know, Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England
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it's not going to exist after this pandemic because everybody's going their own way
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And in the end, the responsibility for that has to lie with Boris
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He should have involved Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Rakeford and Arlene. He should have said, come on, Arlene, let's talk, let's have a united front on this
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And we haven't got a united front. We haven't got clarity either. So nobody understands the rules
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Let's be absolutely blunt about this. Just watching GM TV. They're about eight guests on at one time
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And nobody knows where if you come from a highly infected area
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but you go to another area because you're tier two and you can still travel, can you then do X, Y, and said, no one knows, which is why I'm putting forward
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and I've got pelters for it yesterday. Day before yesterday I did my Sputnik column and I said give us a full lockdown Now before you give me pelters let me explain why and I want to know what Bay Radio listeners think as well Effectively I think we need a full lockdown I don think we had a full
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lockdown last time. Boris was too late to introduce it. It'd already had the Cheltenham Festival
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for example. He was still anti-masks at that time. I think now we need a full lockdown. It
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needs to be limited maybe for two or three weeks, minimum of two weeks. Do it over October break
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and here's the controversial bit. Every student now should be told to isolate
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They should isolate for 10 days. They should be tested now and priority should be given to them
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then tested again. Then the government should move them in coaches with masks on
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back to their home, and they won't be going back to university until after Christmas
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They should do all the lectures on Zoom, which is what they're doing anyway. They should have compensation for their fees
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and also for their halls of residence fees as well. And here's the next bit
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schools should be closed immediately. They're going to have the half-term holiday anyway. Let's close them
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If you saw the press conference with Boris, it was clear it's young people, students and kids who are spreading it
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Now the problem is they don show the symptoms so much and they don get that ill But they come back like even in our house where we got Nana you know multi living so to speak and that how it spreading We have to be draconian
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And President Macron of France, as you probably know, overnight has introduced a curfew in Paris and in 12 other cities
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You can't go out, even go out after 9 o'clock till 6 in the morning
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A bit like Spain had, a bit like the Canaries had. and I think Italy was like this in the first one
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And people keep saying to me, yeah, but lockdowns don't work. Well, no, that lockdown before did work in so much as it suppressed the bulge
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and it gave the NHS time. Clearly, what we need to do is have more time for this track and trace thing to work
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because Hancock has messed that up. We'll go on to that in a moment. So I think the only answer is a full lockdown
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We can't have a situation where Northern Ireland is having a four-week lockdown
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a situation where the people of Liverpool putting aside the students who are dancing in the street
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they're not to blame, are they, as individual people? We must compensate the businesses and compensate people, extend the furlough
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and yes, it's going to cost lots of money. And for saying that, I am getting pelters
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Interestingly, much more aggressive on Twitter
