0:00
I was asking about the summer and uh
0:02
whether there were many gigs and I think
0:04
there were but you split it into two
0:05
really yeah yeah we've been going back
0:07
to the UK to do some gigs in London
0:09
Manchester they've been really good um
0:12
but so yeah Summer's been busy for us
0:14
and um it's great doing these shows in
0:16
in London because there we play all of
0:19
our own music so very exciting very
0:23
scary and what's the response like
0:25
really good yeah we've met some really
0:27
cool people cuz normally these shows
0:30
there are other artists playing on the
0:31
same night so it's it's really fun
0:34
because we we get to meet all of these
0:35
people and some of them we've played
0:38
with again like in other shows go drop
0:42
um uh I don't know I don't
0:45
know not yet car not yet okay fair
0:49
enough um and what about the gigs here
0:51
so I'm guessing here you still have to
0:52
do quite a lot of covers then oh yeah
0:54
yeah we're still doing we throw in uh we
0:56
throw in some Originals every now and
0:57
then but we don't tell anyone cuz
0:59
otherwise they'd leave
1:01
your original compositions are really
1:03
rather good aren't they have to say um
1:05
so have you've been what around since
1:07
2017 together haven't you playing so how
1:10
does it feel now does it feel like
1:12
you're just on this ride that's amazing
1:14
and at every turn there to seems to be
1:16
another great big story on the way yeah
1:18
it's a very very long and slow ride but
1:21
it's a consistently interesting one and
1:23
I feel like it's all happened in the
1:25
right timing uhhuh like we're at the
1:27
point where we're ready for all of this
1:29
stuff to be happen happening so it's
1:30
quite nice and exciting without it being
1:33
too like overwhelming tell us a little
1:36
bit about what's been happening then
1:37
because there some big news in the
1:39
background of Jack and Daisy isn't there
1:41
yeah so we've um we've signed with um a
1:44
company called song bits and um it's
1:48
been set up by Dave Stewart from the
1:50
rythmics and it's a really cool concept
1:52
it's basically um instead of going
1:55
through major record labels um as you
1:58
know can be quite like
2:00
uh iffy um it's basically a way for
2:04
artists to earn money off their songs in
2:08
like a crowdfunding sort of way so
2:10
people can um buy basically a bit of
2:13
your song and um they own some of the
2:18
streaming rights so like say if you put
2:22
$10 worth you'll have however many bits
2:25
of the song and then you earn streaming
2:27
royalties from that for life so like
2:29
when ever it's played on Spotify Apple
2:31
music all of that you earn that's a
2:34
great it's taking it to the next level
2:36
isn't it because you like marilan first
2:38
off crowdfunded their album before
2:40
they'd even made it I think were the
2:41
first to do that sort of thing and this
2:43
is wow it's another big step yeah it's
2:45
really cool crowdfunding but the crowd
2:47
gets something in return except for just
2:49
the music cuz that's that's what the
2:51
whole whole concept is that if if you
2:54
purchase our songs it helps us make more
2:56
songs but you get something in return if
2:59
you if if you really wanted you could
3:00
own just half of our song so yeah is
3:04
that the limit 50% 50 still we still got
3:07
to have a little bit Yeah so we only
3:09
sell 50% of it but um so I think each
3:12
each bit is technically a millisecond of
3:14
the song and uh we can we it's basically
3:18
25 cent for per bit okay um but you can
3:22
put in like a minimum of $5 if you
3:25
wanted or you could put in $100 and
3:27
basically you earn related on how long
3:30
has that been running then is it
3:31
particularly for this new song yeah it's
3:34
it's a very new company and we're one of
3:36
the first artists that Dave Stewart has
3:38
signed and um he's he's very involved in
3:40
it as well he I was going to ask have
3:42
you actually seen him does he come in
3:44
does he so he come comes into the office
3:45
so it doesn't work from home yeah he
3:48
said that he really likes the song and
3:49
everything and um it's really cool cuz
3:52
it feels really positive and he's really
3:55
excited about it we're really excited
3:56
about it and yeah so we're one of the
3:58
first artists on it I he's always been
3:59
big on the production side I mean I saw
4:01
them rythmics I think it was about 1988
4:03
or something um I know before you were
4:06
like um but he's always done that hasn't
4:08
he he's always been involved in
4:10
production and things like that yeah for
4:12
what we've heard from Alan James our
4:15
manager who worked with the rithmic back
4:18
in the day that basically Dave Stewart
4:20
and the rythmics couldn't afford studio
4:21
time or producers for their original
4:24
album so he was like well I'll do it
4:25
myself then yeah and he taught himself
4:27
from his budon kind of like Jack
4:29
excellent same level so yeah I mean yeah
4:32
where would you rate him then Jack he's
4:34
not bad we've talked about this before
4:36
me handing over your music to somebody
4:38
else and what they do with it and
4:40
generally you've always been happy with
4:41
the results oh yeah yeah it's always a
4:43
scary thing but less because I'm not uh
4:48
I don't trust what they're going to do
4:49
it's not that it's more that I think
4:51
they're going to judge what I've done I
4:52
see more of a like I don't want to send
4:56
you this in case you you make fun of me
4:58
kind of thing think your stuff's
5:00
brilliant anyway you know that you know
5:02
that and I'm sure he does too obviously
5:03
is cuz he's involved uh but of course
5:06
the name dropping doesn't really end
5:07
there does it because there's somebody
5:09
else quite famous involved yeah Chris
5:11
kimy who's a Rolling Stones producer um
5:15
he's actually mixed this track that
5:16
we're releasing on song bits so that was
5:19
really cool so we were talking before
5:21
about how that came about we didn't get
5:23
to finish the story um so you can tell
5:25
everybody how that came about well it
5:27
was quite a funny one because he works
5:29
in Olympic studios in in Barnes in
5:31
London and um uh well we've kind of
5:37
known of him since I was a little girl
5:39
cuz that's where I grew up and um so it
5:42
was quite a funny thing when he got
5:44
involved via our manager um and he
5:48
started mixing some of our tracks and
5:49
then we we had that kind of connection
5:52
and that was really really cool so you
5:54
used to knew his kids when you were
5:55
growing up strange like it's G the full
5:58
circle yeah yeah incredible and I mean
6:01
we were just running through the a list
6:02
of some of the other people that he
6:04
worked with um Peter Franson we
6:06
mentioned in the Rolling Stones at 10
6:08
years after emson L and Palmer are you
6:10
ready for the list here we go and you
6:12
can add Jack and Daisy on the end right
6:14
here we Jimmy Cliff the cult Peter TOS
6:17
Joe boxers Joan Jet and the black hearts
6:18
the Psychedelic Furs Anderson bruford
6:21
wakan and how New Model Army anti-
6:22
nowhere League inex sass Jan Jan Golden
6:24
Earrings Sol Asylum diesel Park Quest
6:26
the chieftain The Proclaimers and Ash
6:29
and Jack and Daisy wow a top it all off
6:32
that's that's quite a a big uh
6:36
repertoire of artists and all kinds of
6:38
different genres so um how does he how
6:40
does it how did it work when you first
6:42
played for him what did he think what
6:44
did he say well what advice did he give
6:46
you so basically it was all uh very a
6:50
lot more straightforward than I expected
6:51
it to be because like like I said before
6:53
I'm quite like uh delicate is the word
6:56
of giving other people stuff that we've
6:58
recorded and straight away he was like
7:01
yep brilliant that's it I think he asked
7:03
us to do a guitar track again cuz there
7:05
was some background noise cuz everything
7:06
we record is done in my bedroom MH and I
7:08
think still working that way oh yeah
7:11
yeah and I think in the background noise
7:13
you could hear my mom uh closing the
7:16
kitchen drawer and you could hear the
7:17
cuty bang so I had to redo that guitar
7:20
take and me that was it so he was very
7:23
happy with your yeah yeah he was very
7:24
complimentary there was very strange um
7:27
there was just I just got a phone call
7:28
one day and it was it was he was like oh
7:31
yeah it's Chris I'm like who it was
7:34
Chris kimsey he was like and that was
7:36
him saying like oh the the tracks sound
7:38
great I really love the guitar playing
7:39
and the sound for the guitar um uh I
7:42
need you to do this bit again and that
7:44
was it was really when I say Jack was
7:46
chuffed Jack isn't the most emotional
7:49
person and and I've never seen him so
7:52
happy and proud of himself because he
7:54
was like Chris kimy said that my trucks
7:56
good blows my mind so that's great yeah
8:00
my upstairs neighbor likes to sing as
8:01
well and she's always in the background
8:03
my she knows she knows all your lyrics
8:06
she does I know all of hers now as well
8:08
she she's a big fan of Seline Dion know
8:10
that um so you're going to play some
8:12
stuff for us today we're going to
8:14
dispense with covers aren't we really
8:15
going stick with your own stuff yeah
8:17
well we'll come to the new song um and
8:19
play the the the studio version in a bit
8:22
but what do you want to play for us
8:23
today yeah we were deciding that now 5
8:26
minutes ago but we're going to play a
8:27
new one um which is a bit but this is
8:31
called out of the blue and yeah we're
8:33
going to be playing this um in the gigs
8:36
we we're doing in London next week so
8:39
thankfully we've been practicing it but
8:41
yeah this is called out of the
8:45
blue ready yeah yeah go
8:51
for I used to lie awake and watch the
8:55
Shadows move I used to sit and wait for
8:58
hours in the Gloom but they forgotten
9:01
days cuz know that I'll be seeing you
9:07
again you came right out of the blue I
9:11
guess the world is on my side now and
9:16
then so now I lie awake and think about
9:20
all the words I said and how they
9:23
sounded so much better in my head but
9:26
there's a root to your heart and I think
9:33
time you came right out of the
9:36
blue don't go leave in me
9:42
behind you came out of the blue right
9:51
eyes now we do what to you better love
10:00
what if we took a walk around the block
10:02
like something lovers do rent a place
10:05
down by the docks just for a year or two
10:08
I used to love me like you do in a day
10:16
year you came right out of the
10:19
blue Don't go Bringing me to
10:25
tears you came out of the blue right
10:33
eyes now we do what others do better
10:42
right you came out of the blue right
10:51
eyes yeah you came out of the blue
11:18
you came out of the blue right into my
11:25
eyes now we do our this to better love
11:34
right you came out of the blue right
11:43
eyes then you came out of the
11:53
blue woo Jack and Daisy in the studio
11:55
today we'll do more after the break so
11:59
if you got some gigs coming up then
12:00
you're going back to the UK shortly
12:01
aren't you yes yeah we're going on the
12:02
on Tuesday so the 1st of October um and
12:06
we've got a gig that night in um Clarken
12:10
well slaughtered lamb and um and then on
12:13
the Thursday the third in Barnes in the
12:16
blls head your hometown my hometown
12:18
along with Javier both of them ACR your
12:19
homeown of course yes yeah okay um and
12:23
what about after that then is it what's
12:25
what's lined up because the new song's
12:26
out today right yeah in half an hour so
12:29
the love it's out on streaming platforms
12:31
as we speak but in half an hour it comes
12:34
out on song bits um so like the sale
12:36
goes live that's when you can start
12:38
buying bits of Jack and Daisy yeah
12:39
that's when if you were to support us
12:41
that's the best way that's the best way
12:43
you kind of become a part of the team by
12:44
doing so it's great such a fantastic
12:47
concept yeah it's exciting and also
12:49
there are perks that we're we're we're
12:51
offering as well which is quite funny
12:54
have a virtual meet and greet yeah
12:56
virtual meet and greets merchandise uh
12:59
sign CDs lyric sheets lyric sheets you
13:01
do like a trump and give away pieces of
13:03
Jack's t-shirts oh yeah yeah yep
13:09
washed bath water bath
13:12
water well no I'm looking forward to to
13:14
finding out how that uh how that works
13:17
because I just say en I think the
13:18
concept's great actually you've been
13:19
able to own imagine if you'd been able
13:21
to own 50% of Beal song You' have been
13:24
made made for Life wouldn't you so we
13:26
need to get in now need to get in now
13:29
away you never know excellent so tell us
13:32
about the new song yeah it's called the
13:34
love I know and um well we wrote it
13:37
together and we recorded it here in in
13:40
Javier in Jack room and yeah Chris
13:43
kimsey mixed it which is amazing and uh
13:46
it's basically about kind of finding
13:48
happiness in like the little things and
13:50
not not needing much other than the
13:54
places you've got to go you can own a
13:56
part of this the love I know the new
13:58
song from Jack and D right here on Bay
14:06
windes it's the warmth of your hands
14:08
hiding under your sleeves it's finding
14:11
the truth in what No One
14:14
Believes not needing somebody to
14:18
follow with nowhere to be the places to
14:23
go that's the love I know
14:29
that's the love I know with nowh but
14:36
go that's the love I
14:46
know with nowhere to be but places to
14:51
go that's the love I
14:55
know brand new Jack and Daisy on the
14:58
Friday feeling B radio we love that
15:01
that's such a sweet song I only heard
15:02
the clip that was released and to hear
15:04
it in full uh is great I was just asking
15:07
while it was playing about the the the
15:09
way that it all comes together now
15:11
because it's being released as we speak
15:14
um and on the song bits thing you can
15:15
buy parts of the record yeah it's
15:17
basically we sell 50% of it and um when
15:20
it's gone it's gone so it could sell out
15:23
um but yeah uh you can buy however much
15:26
of it you want okay what's the link
15:29
www.j and daisy. song bits.com so the
15:33
single and are you going to be working
15:35
on more things with the the guys that
15:37
you've been named dropping this
15:39
afternoon yeah so that's so that's what
15:41
the whole thing with song bits is it's
15:43
so that if if people are interested in
15:45
helping us grow as musicians you can
15:49
purchase our songs so that we can make
15:50
more so if the if the sale goes well
15:53
today and people purchase the a decent
15:57
amount of our track then will have money
15:59
to record more tracks cuz even though we
16:02
do do it in my bedroom is still as you
16:04
know in the studio here is it's not
16:07
cheap equipment no no um in fact you
16:10
were saying that when you sent that off
16:12
to Chris that he kind of was back with
16:15
you within a couple of hours yeah with
16:17
with his final version and you could
16:18
hear the difference oh yeah something
16:20
that would take me a week maybe two
16:21
weeks to to be happy with took him about
16:24
an hour and a half I remember very
16:26
clearly because we were in the UK at the
16:27
time doing some shows and it was before
16:29
lunch and we sent him the tracks and we
16:31
walked around the corner to go get some
16:32
food and as we were eating pizza we sent
16:34
us the finished song didn't have to
16:36
mention the pizza really nice Pizza
16:38
Rudy's in Manchester really what I was I
16:41
going to there was I was a restaurant I
16:42
saw earlier that there is a jack and
16:44
Daisy restaurant in Australia did you
16:45
know that I didn't know that we know
16:46
there's a Jack and Daisy vets in America
16:51
Limas of course I see their van driving
16:55
around I'm like excellent what about the
16:57
songwriting then because you played us
16:59
another new song just before and um you
17:01
never really seem to have too many
17:03
problems I know Jack's been worried
17:04
about having a bit of writers block at
17:06
times but yeah it does but you do seem
17:08
to be quite prolific there you know
17:09
there's stuff coming through all the
17:11
time yeah you know what's annoying is
17:12
that that's some of the best songs that
17:16
we've written took about 20 minutes to
17:19
write and some of the ones that like we
17:21
struggle with and we're like always
17:24
changing the chorus or changing the
17:25
bridge have taken like weeks so like the
17:28
love I know I wrote that in a day
17:31
because it just like came to me no we
17:33
were just playing Midnight Train to
17:34
Georgia and the person who wrote that
17:35
said it took about 45 minutes what and
17:37
it's just like it's it's like a weird
17:39
thing that happens and and there's no
17:41
explanation for it but um yeah like we
17:44
we we write about you know you always
17:46
told about write told to write about
17:48
yeah what you know or life experience
17:50
and stuff but I I find it so much easier
17:52
to write about other people or or like
17:55
something I've read in a book or or even
17:57
if I just have a title that I really
17:59
like and then I just have to make it
18:00
into a song excellent all right um so
18:03
play us another of your own songs what
18:05
did you fancy this is on our uh we did
18:08
this one on our YouTube we released it
18:11
about 2 years ago and then a year after
18:13
we released it it suddenly got a load of
18:15
traction I think it's on 750,000 views
18:18
at the moment and it just keeps going up
18:20
and we're very happy with
18:24
this do you want to do the full 15
18:27
minute uncut Robert Zimmerman version
18:39
not no there ain't no use I to sit on
18:46
babe if you don't know by
18:50
now no there ain't no use as to sit and
18:56
babe CU it'll never do some
19:00
how your rooster crow at the break of
19:05
dawn look out your window and I'll be
19:11
gone you're the reason that I'm
19:15
on Don't Think Twice It's all
19:20
right there Ain no and turning on your
19:30
know there ain't no use in turning on
19:36
babe I'm on the dark side of the
19:40
road no I'm wishing there was something
19:46
say to try to make me change my mind and
19:52
stay we never did too much talking
19:56
anyway so don't think Think Twice It's
20:07
right ain't no you and call out my
20:13
name like you never did
20:19
before calling out my name
20:24
go cuz I can't hear you anymore
20:29
now I'm thinking and a wondering all the
20:32
way down the road I once love a
20:37
woman the child I'm told I gave her my
20:42
heart but she wanted my
20:45
soul so Don't Think Twice It's All
21:03
tell but goodbye it's to get a wife
21:10
bab so I'll just say
21:14
FY no I ain't saying you treated
21:20
meind you could have done
21:23
better that I don't mind no you just
21:28
kind of wasted all of my precious
21:31
time so don't think twice it's all
21:36
right Don't Think Twice It's all
21:41
right love that it's on my playlist when
21:44
I come in from the pub s in the kitchen
21:46
singing away with myself and well and
21:48
you guys you're in the room you're in
21:50
the love it brilliant how's it working
21:52
then with the split you know Spain and
21:54
the UK now that things seem to be
21:56
picking up quite a bit more with that
21:58
the UK side of things yeah well we just
22:01
basically if we book shows in the UK we
22:03
fly over for them and uh we couch stuff
22:07
if you will so we just stay with friends
22:09
and um try to keep it you know keep the
22:12
budget down keep the budget we we try
22:14
and book shows we find venues that we
22:16
know would want to book us and then
22:18
we'll try and obviously keep it within
22:20
like maybe a two week period at most
22:23
yeah and so we'll go we did a we've done
22:25
a few this year we'll go back for two
22:26
weeks we'll play like maybe six shows
22:28
like one every other day and then come
22:30
back but we also done it where in we did
22:32
one in June where we literally flew back
22:35
played that night and then flew back the
22:37
next day rather rock and roll guys oh
22:39
yeah jet says oh yeah easy jet what
22:42
about some some more studio time CU you
22:44
have done some studio uh time outside of
22:46
the bedroom in the past um any chance of
22:48
that perhaps coming along do you think
22:50
yeah yeah yeah we had a chance to get um
22:53
some studio time with Marshall um you
22:56
know Marshall amplifiers if you're
22:58
guitar player you know martial
22:59
amplifiers like that's the first one you
23:00
buy martial little martial amp so
23:03
they've uh they've got a record label
23:04
out they've got a record label and
23:06
they've got is it called Marshal Studios
23:08
yeah it's just called Marshall records
23:09
and they they have a studio in London
23:12
and some studio time but we just
23:15
couldn't fit it into our very busy
23:19
schedule um so I'm going to ask Jack
23:22
about um studio equipment here um cuz we
23:26
were swooning over the microphone that
23:28
somebody did they lend you it or did you
23:30
yeah I've had to give it back now no way
23:32
sad very very sad um so if you if
23:35
anybody if anybody's listening would
23:36
like to donate a piece of studio
23:38
equipment what is it that you would
23:40
really like oh at the moment I'm after a
23:42
good ribbon microphone so like a royal
23:46
121 we're nodding as if we just the one
23:48
just one like so basically we at the
23:51
moment we have two very basic
23:54
microphones to record that's all we have
23:56
the a sure sm7b that any one that is a
23:59
very very basic might have actually got
24:01
that one pretty basic also
24:04
at2020 they're good sounding solid mics
24:07
but if there a certain uh type of warmth
24:10
that you want to get you can't get from
24:11
either of these mics and it's and then
24:13
like inter it's just it's all so you've
24:15
got him started now a nice no what time
24:20
half no but just today he got a new
24:22
guitar pedal for the shows we're doing
24:24
next week and um he's been very quiet
24:26
all day just playing with that she text
24:28
me we're on our way here she's like are
24:29
you leaving yet and I have my headphones
24:30
on I was playing my guitar and I was
24:33
no excellent guys best of luck with the
24:36
new song the love I know we'll be
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playing it here of course and we'll also
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be buying a piece of it as well now kind
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of love it can own a piece of Jack and
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Daisy uh thanks very much indeed and
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best of luck with the current project
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good to hear from you and thanks very
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much for coming in it's always a
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pleasure thanks guys thank you cheers