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our us correspondent Rich Reynolds with
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us this afternoon at Bay radio
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International 12 minutes past 4 Mainland
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Spain how you doing well I'm iGo good to
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be here you're good y so what you been
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what have you been doing for the past
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week I'll tell you I think there may
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have been a convention on the A and I
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was watching a lot of that and I was uh
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driving my poor wife crazy watching
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convention coverage and stuff on YouTube
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and whatever I could find and you know
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I'm a junkie what can I say I'm addicted
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to it so I I kind of enjoy it there's
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you can't get out of the way of it it's
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everywhere and it's on every Network all
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the time so 10 weeks to go till the
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election and I'm already addicted yeah
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you are addicted are you don't you wish
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you good vote and all that nonsense I
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guess but I mean it's just it's just I I
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just can't the Cutthroat way that um
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American politics works is just
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astounding well compared to UK politics
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which is very seems to be very civil to
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me and generally I I fig that sort of
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through the pandemic it was but
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subsequently not so much but wow when
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you get to American politics it's um it
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really is quite harsh it's brutal and
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you know people have said oh this is a
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one of the worst campaigns in history
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it's the way they go at each other and I
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said this is nothing compared to the
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1830s 1840s around the time of slavery
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when Lincoln was President oh my well
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divided the country they thought about
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it it was awful it was just they were
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just shredding each other and and lying
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about each other and that sort of thing
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so it's kind of an American tradition to
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lie cheat and uh and win elections all
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right we'll come to that shortly first
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of all the development the other day
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about the telegram founder being
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arrested in France this is hard coverage
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right across the planet Pavel durov I
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got told off the other day by number of
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Ukrainian and Russian speakers who said
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your pronunciation is rubbish I'm still
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working on it it's still not that much
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better anyway the Russian founder of
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telegram who's arrested in Paris um now
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depends where you look where you read
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some people feel very differently about
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the reasoning behind this uh it said he
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has nothing to hide and it's absurd to
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hold an owner responsible for abuse of
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the messaging and social media platform
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that's what telegram have said in a
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statement of course it was founded in
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Russia he Russian but he no longer lives
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there he left because the government
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wanted to curtail and and and stop what
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he was doing uh and control it and so he
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left so that he would be free in the
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Free World and Med vev out of Russia
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today has been saying we told him we
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told him they wouldn't let him do it in
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the west either um well they closed him
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down in 2018 and they brought him back
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2021 so he's like a like a a bad Penny
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he keeps coming back but uh I don't know
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if everybody out there knows about
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telegram it's it's similar to Whatsapp
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if you like similar to Whatsapp yeah it
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is I I'm I'm a member of it but every
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once in a while when I'm when I'm
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calling a call center or something like
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that or or a chat bot or something
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something like that they'll always say
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we're on telegram follow us on telegram
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so I don't I don't have any friends I
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don't how in in in the Russian
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Federation in Ukraine and in countries
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of former Eastern block lots of users
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but uh as you and I were speaking off
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air uh I I think we're in agreement that
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the that telegram is liable for uh what
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their memb say I mean well it's weird
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because the EU have kind of distanced
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themselves from France in this and the
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EU just brought in some strong and heavy
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rules and regulations regarding
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platforms like this but they're they're
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sitting back at the moment and um it's
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all about cyber crime according to the
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inquiry there some of the 12 crimes
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according to French prosecutors uh that
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um they are alleging that Pavel durov is
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responsible for and they include
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complicity in possessing disseminating
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child pornography and administering an
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online platform to allow organized crime
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acquiring transporting or offering n Nar
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otics so where is it you know why is an
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online platform such as telegram or
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Whatsapp or whichever one you'd like to
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mention different from Radio TV
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newspapers all have a standards to
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uphold in in in countries that they
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broadcast or that they print uh or or
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whatever it is that they do why should
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media platforms be any different well uh
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a phrase that they use in the states all
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the time is it's like the wild west you
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have an amendment for this we Haven
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that's right that's right it is Free
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Speech but uh you know the thing you
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know R you've worked in radio your whole
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life I worked in radio and television my
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whole life and you are accountable to
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Federal organizations you there are
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certain things you cannot say there are
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certainly things you cannot do there are
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a lot of things you shouldn't do but
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that but people will still do them but
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is in in those you're not getting input
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from aill people here everybody is free
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on Facebook on on Instagram blah blah
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blah they they're free to speak their
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mind and and input but where's that
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information where's that where's that
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line drawn and apparently the line there
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is no line nobody knows where the line
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is and that's the that's a big problem
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that's what the EU has been trying to
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control with certain platforms and and
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of course it has uh strong connections
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with other things that have been going
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on we've just seen the P of somebody who
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was locked up for uh putting a lot of
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information out on the platform haven't
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we um that's right so so the the big
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question is what are they going to do
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are they going to close down telegram
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you going to close down a a site that's
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got a billion people using it I don't
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know that that's a financial decision so
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I don't I don't know what's going to
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happen in this but but you know you're
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right in that everybody's got to be
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accountable for what they say and the
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people that they let in the door you
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know it's like a like a nightclub or a
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store I mean you're you're responsible
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for those people that you let in what
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gets me is the people on social media
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hide behind the keyboard the call you
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know so-called keyboard Warriors they
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say and do things uh that they would not
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come up and say to you or do in the
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street and so there is a line there's
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there is a line isn't there you know in
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most civilized society there's a a line
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on on what's acceptable and what isn't
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um but it's how do you police it I guess
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and and whether that really is going to
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be what it comes down to with
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investigation here that line is very
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different in Russia than it is in in the
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UK or Spain or North Korea North Korea
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yeah or the US you know where um like
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you say with the amendment free speech
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is slightly it's it's it's different
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isn't it you know well when Zuckerberg
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was called in front of Congress well he
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was saying today that they they were
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trying to get him to um to to not talk
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about covid in in in a particular way or
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vaccines and so on or or people on his
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platform um and all you have to do is
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stand up and say Free Speech Second
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Amendment uh F I'm sorry First Amendment
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Second Amendment is uh gun
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a gun right to bear arms first first
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amendment I should say but uh yeah it's
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it's a it's a it's a door that's got to
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uh that's got to swing both ways yeah
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really does yeah lots of commentary on
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that on social media anyway we thought
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we would just start with that one um but
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um of course as Rich was alluding just
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before uh talking about what has been
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going on in the United States recently
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and the democratic convention uh um had
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a surprise guest actually before we get
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nitty-gritty well the one they didn't
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have a surprise guest they did not have
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Beyonce as a surprise guest and
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everybody thought be I had I had even
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read that it might be Beyonce and uh
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Taylor Swift that's right maybe even
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together the same time yeah I had heard
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that that would have been a surprise to
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both of them but uh Taylor Swift I guess
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was at her mansion in Road Island
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watching the whole thing from from
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everything I've read um but they had but
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they had pink and they had lots of other
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interesting people who showed up and
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performed and it was I'll tell you it
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was a 4-day rock show it was just as
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somebody who was has watched dozens of
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these conventions over the years I got
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to tell you they theyve really put on a
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show they put on a party they rolled out
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the big guns they rolled out they rolled
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out uh the Obamas and the clintons and
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uh uh they had actors and actresses
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speaking and they had a DJ any of you
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that would like to see the roll call you
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can call it up on YouTube it's the DNC
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roll call where every state uh comes in
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to view and and offers how many it was
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great DJ Cassidy Rock the conven and
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each each of them had their own song or
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even actually some of them stole two
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songs didn't they and actually that was
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the link with what I was saying about a
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little bit earlier on because I made it
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made it all flow today the last song in
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the first hour Timberland the way I are
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uh in the last hour as well with sex
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machine from James Brown both of those
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songs used in that playlist for the
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state as they went through and yeah it
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was it was quite a good way to do it I
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think when they're basically what
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they're doing is they're saying how many
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votes from each state right right each
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state uh the each state I think the
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1,70 uh I could be off by a few but
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around 1,270 and um that's how many
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delegates they had and and so what
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happens they pledge the delegates and
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the state says from the great state of
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Montana we pledged 35 delegates blah
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blah blah and uh and the person says
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Montana 35 votes and that's just tallied
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up and that's how the Republicans do it
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that's the way it's been done in the
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past it's just somebody usually the
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governor uh lieutenant governor you know
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some policy wonk here they had actors
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doing it the state of Indiana had uh
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Shan Aston who played Rudy in the movie
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about Notre Dame Michael Jackson Don't
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Stop Till You Get Enough for that that's
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right that's right in fact Kansas that
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we just played before carry on my way
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was obviously Kansas some of them tied
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them in didn't they like Idaho With
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Private Idaho the b52s but others were
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were you know just in fact even there
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was a current track Missouri you
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Chappelle rone current number one on the
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bay radio top 10 good luck babe as well
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so that's a brand new song so it wasn't
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just all the classic I was wondering I'm
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glad you said that because I lived in
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Missouri for almost 10 years I did not
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recognize that song I am not a we've
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been playing it quite a bit in fact I've
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just played it the last hour as well
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just not a contemporary guy I am just
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not but there were some Taylor songs
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there were blackeyed peas House of Pain
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of course Bruce Springsteen was New
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Jerseys MH but yeah good way to do it um
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right it was fun it was just a weekl
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long party it was fun and and now the
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hard work get done and now we're down to
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69 days in counting as you said seven 10
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weeks 10 weeks to go till the election
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right uh from today 10 weeks uh from
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today and overall you were happy with
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the uh I was really happy you know I I
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really love what they did I I really
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liked uh the the words that were being
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said they they kind of rang true uh
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I like the the people who were speaking
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I thought uh I thought the the party
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came out of it looking really good and
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in really a good space and the fact that
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in according to one poll and I'm sure
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we'll get to this later she's up by
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seven points nationally when Joe Biden
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had them down by 10 or 12 and things are
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looking really bad for the Democratic
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party things are looking L Rider right
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now and it seems to have had an effect
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on Mr Trump as well again which we'll
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come to in a little bit and Mark's just
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pointing out that he thought Obama was
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great brilliant comic timing uh but a
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lot of people thought Michelle was
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better than him she was great and and
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she had a different speech than he did
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you know she spoke to women and slightly
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different than the way she normally goes
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as well because she doesn't normally
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attack people individually but because
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Trump had been doing it she did it this
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time yeah she was great now she's uh
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she's a great speaker and so is he you
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know he's great I thought Bill Clinton
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was a little looked a little fragile
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that's just my opinion he's uh he's he's
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a little bit older than you he's getting
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up there yeah yeah yeah and usually he's
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he's like having a superstar for the
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Democratic party he's always a great
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speaker but his his speech was a little
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a little frail but I thought um but but
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good and solid lot of good points okay
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so plenty of Co plenty of covid
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apparently a lot of people got covid at
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that convention so they went to see
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Beyonce they came home with Co that that
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apparently was a problem without seeing
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Beyonce without seeing Beyonce but uh
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yeah apparently Co is uh uh becoming a
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big thing in the states it's back with a
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vengeance and I know we're going to be
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talking about that a little bit later
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but um yeah there was a quite a few
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people got Co coming out of the uh Arena
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which holds about 20,000 people so if
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you're interested you can go to
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Democratic National Convention or DNC
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2024 roll call on Spotify and it'll
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bring you up the full list thought we'd
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do this one the tune that was chosen by
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the Democrats abroad to announce there
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uh how many did they have did did you
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know what did they say the Democrats AB
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how many they had there I think it was
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like a half a dozen or so they may have
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had a few more than that you know some
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of those some of those delegations were
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small California had 450 something like
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that that was in insane but uh you know
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I know I'm going I know I'm going to
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hear from the da people when I'm off the
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but I think it I from what I heard that
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it was like six or 10 people something
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like that but all right back to business
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U the new covid vaccine is out in the
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States but um maybe you don't want to
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get it just yet well what they're saying
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saying is that that yeah there is a new
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vaccine um the the amount of covid cases
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are on the uptick right now um that
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2,000 people in the states died during
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the month of July that's a lot of people
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25,700 died in 2020 the you know the
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year that the Year of Living Dangerously
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that we all live through but um what
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they're saying the the the people in uh
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in charge is that you may want to wait
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to get your vaccine not because it's
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untested not because it doesn't work but
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because flu season in the states is as
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it is most places is October November
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December that's that sort of thing and
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if you get it now uh it may wear off or
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may be less effective than course then
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Co mutates through time as well so
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you're more susceptible you want to get
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it for the winter season really you know
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the problem is just convincing anybody
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to do it because uh as you remember and
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a lot of people who are listening and
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live over here know we were all dying to
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get the vaccine back in uh in 202 we
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couldn't get it yeah yeah I'm dying
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literally dying a thousand people a day
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justtin Valencia were dying I know that
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and and and and we're a medium-sized
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City terrible numers in Madrid also
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horrible just horrible but but the thing
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is every people in the states got it
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people in the UK had it and we were I
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don't know if we could say we're one of
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the last countries to get it but
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certainly one of the one of the yeah it
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just seemed like all all of a sudden in
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Europe Italy had it and then everybody
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else straight away that's right that's
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right so a lot of it to do with
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reporting so on but but but right now uh
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you know people in the states are very
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nonchalant about it if I get Co I've got
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the figures from the wh right the World
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Health Organization for the seven days
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to the 20 to to the 11th of August this
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1,351 and I'm guessing that's per
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100,000 is it look of it I don't know
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yeah um no no that's just the numberal
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that's the total number 351 at Europe
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36830 36,000 in Europe yeah so we and we
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know that Spain um recently has been
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struggling we we do report regularly on
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the news if there's a spike in numbers
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but um you know we're in the summer
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period And I think that's been a lot of
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traveling people moving about that's um
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that's caused that and of course like I
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say we're not in the winter season yet
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but um a lot a lot but I haven't sorry
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to interrupt but I I I haven't seen a
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lot of chatter you know uh in Europe
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about getting your shots and getting
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that done because that's you know
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obviously four years ago that's all we
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talked about they have standard programs
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for places like Spain I know that my mom
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a lot of her friends they just called in
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and so they they had both the flu and
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the covid some of them at the same time
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they do yeah yeah so so if we go to to
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our local Health Center if you're if
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you're over a certain age which I
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believe is something like 60 um then you
16:20
you you're entitled well I I you know I
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don't think either of us are any were're
16:25
not it's been a while since I've been to
16:26
medical school which was never ever but
16:30
but going to say that yeah okay I don't
16:32
want anybody to go when was it that you
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went uh but it it was uh it's a case
16:38
where I believe in vaccines and I I'm
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going to get mine and I know it helped
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out and you know I got I think I had
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ended up getting what three shots over
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the over those four years yeah I mean
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like I said earlier I know it mutates
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but um you know some people who who
16:53
prefer not to have the vaccines may have
16:55
had it may have not got I know somebody
16:56
who only just got it recently and and
16:57
never got it all the way through the
16:59
pmic but you know um as as things go on
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you build up anti antibodies you know
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the that her um immunity that they were
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talking about um improves um so you know
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it's up to each and everybody on their
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own if they want to get it or not uh
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meanwhile I've seen a couple of um news
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stories and we've not really talked
17:17
about this on the bay radio
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international news uh because it's been
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happening south of Spain West Nile uh
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virus but that has actually come up in
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the news in the states uh not least
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because it's quite a famous person that
17:30
contracted it Dr fouchy Who was the big
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covid guy for he was our he was our Co
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Zar for the entire time under the Trump
17:38
Administration and he came down with
17:40
little westnile and uh he was he's
17:44
combined he's on the upswing right now
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apparently and he's he's combined to his
17:48
home but uh he got it really really
17:51
badly and he got hospitalized yeah yeah
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very much so and you know when he was
17:55
asked how he got it he said I think I
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got it in my backyard I know like he
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traveled somewhere exotic with his job
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you know just in his backyard and where
18:03
where's he from uh I believe he lives in
18:06
New York right right but he is uh 83
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years old so he's got to be really
18:11
careful about that and there's uh but
18:13
but God bless him he's on the upswing
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right now and and um really feeling good
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about that and and that's not something
18:20
you get a vaccination for you can't go
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to my knowledge you can't it's not
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preemptive I don't think you can go to
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your doctor and say could I have a a
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West Nile and I don't I haven't seen for
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me personally uh mosquitoes are not a
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big problem I know they they can be but
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I haven't seen as big of a problem the
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states and those there are people in the
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in the United States who live in places
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like Minnesota oh I'm reading where
18:45
they're the size of of of hummingbirds
18:47
I'm reading a a historical book now and
18:49
it's right at the very beginning of uh
18:50
of American European history if you like
18:54
uh and they are actually focusing quite
18:55
a lot on that on on insects and the like
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I knew they were bad in Canada but I
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didn't realize that it was so much uh
19:01
you know in the United States and the
19:03
southern the Southern United States Al
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also very much because they breed they
19:06
breed in water and a lot of people had I
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remember when I I was living in Oregon
19:10
we had uh uh we used to have a an
19:14
infestation of U of uh mosquitoes from
19:17
from time to time and we had a we had a
19:21
I don't know like a little fountain in
19:22
the back and sometimes the fountain ran
19:24
sometimes it didn't if we plugged it in
19:26
and we had to be careful about that
19:27
because the you know as everybody knows
19:29
the mosquitoes breed in in still water
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and you got to clean those out okay
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we're probably going to run out of time
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if we carry on this way we are today um
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let's move on to uh an Coulter um bit of
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a backlash after uh the posting at the
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convention about Tim waltz's son really
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wrong thing to say uh at the wrong time
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I got to tell you there's something
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wrong with her she ain't right you know
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it's as they say in the South it's you
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know she was anybody who saw the the
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convention uh Tim Waltz the the vice
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presidential candidate his son is 17
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years old and he's special needs he's
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got um uh he has some some issues that
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he's dealing with and ADHD ADH
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anxiety you know a number of things
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non-verbal learning disorder I think the
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correct way to to say it these days so
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so he doesn't speak much but what he
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could say was that's my dad up there
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yeah but he was balling at the time he
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was crying me he was was quite emotional
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he loved his dad so much and he was out
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there crying going oh I love my dad
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that's my dad up there as any of us
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would do not the way that uncult to
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portrayed it no no she she called him
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weird uh can you believe it look at that
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it's it's a weakness and the Democrats
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have done it again blah blah blah and
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I'm I'm going how callous are you to
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make fun of some someone special needs
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kid and really she did get a pce s
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before it she did she's gotten there's
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been a lot of blowback on social media
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she shouldn't have said it and being an
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couter and being a real
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hardnose she didn't back down on any of
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it she doubled down and said well he's
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he's a weird kid so that's and she's
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moving on she was just switching that
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weird Monica back as well from the
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Republicans to the Democrats yeah so
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yeah you know you just don't make fun of
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people who have special needs kids it's
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not sure how much you had to do in the
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polls um but um as you mentioned Harris
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leading Trump by seven points in the
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latest poll which came out Friday right
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yeah yeah she's doing really quite well
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and of course those numbers are going to
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vary up and down depending on the poll
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you look at there's one uh that uh
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that's called a rasmason poll it leans
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heavily Republican so when they they
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they did a poll last week the rasmuson
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poll said Trump is in the lead but it's
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the only one I've seen where where Trump
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is in the lead on anything so everything
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is as I said before is trending upward
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and walls um yeah this seven points is
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the largest spread I have seen so far so
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uh I think it's going to change now the
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RFK throwing his support behind Trump
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that may move the needle a little bit
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either way we've got that on our agenda
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a bit later in have we or not at all I
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think it was there and then I'm not sure
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if we've left it in but um I think yes
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we did um uh that was the headline
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wasn't it a UK um site actually Sky News
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saying a sad ending to to a sad story uh
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this was Kennedy's family criticizing
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RFK Jr wasn't it because he endorsed
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Trump and said that obviously he was he
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was uh going to try as an independent uh
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and now has decided to throw his weight
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behind Trump in those states where he
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thought he was going to do quite well
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but of course he he doesn't come from a
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republican family to say the least to
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say the least you know you know his his
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dad was running for president his uncle
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was JFK and and for him to to back a a
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Republican and and he's a little cuckoo
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for Cocoa Puffs you know but he's he's
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run for president now three times 2016
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2020 and now uh on no none of those
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times will he be uh inaugurated as
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president so he threw it behind Trump
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because he's he's he's trying to be a
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rebel but I think he also feels that
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he's going to get a decent position
23:19
following Trump's election where he to
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be elected there you go and and there
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was a lot of talk between between him
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and the Trump camp that he wants to be
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the the uh Secretary of health health
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and human services can you imagine he's
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a non vaxer he has no medical training
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he has no interest in that but why is it
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that particular position is just the
23:41
most innocuous that they can give
23:44
him it's because of his stance on vacc
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yeah that way he can get it through and
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I don't know because he he's a firm
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believer that vaccines cause autism and
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that's the that's what he's been spewing
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for a number of years that's his
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position that's all he has to stand on
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and so for that he's he's angling for
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because he talked about the US
24:08
government's use of vaccine uh mandates
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uh it was basically even in Hitler's
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Germany this is the quote you could
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cross the outs into Switzerland you
24:15
could hide an attic like an Frank did uh
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today the mechanisms are being put in
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place that will make it so none of us
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can run and none of us can hide pretty
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interesting coming from a guy who's who
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comes from in interminable wealth and
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and you know this guy this guy has never
24:30
wanted for anything but he's he's been
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positioning himself as an outsider that
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he's somebody who uh he's not in the
24:38
mainstream like Trump although Trump is
24:40
not on the mainstream he's not on the
24:42
mainstream like Biden and so he can
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offer a little bit more but the most he
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was polling was I heard somebody say
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almost 20% I don't believe that for a
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bit in some states yeah I don't know
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what it was somebody said I saw his
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polls highest 20 IO nah the highest poll
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I ever saw with him is 12 now he's down
25:00
to below five so the big question is are
25:03
his supporters going to go to Trump or
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are they just not going to show up you
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know a lot of these people are just
25:08
going to say I'm not going to vote I'll
25:09
vote for the the senator from Vermont
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I'll vote for my Governor from Iowa
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whoever uh whatever state I'm in but I'm
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just not going to vote for president and
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if that's the case I don't know who it's