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And so why would they learn that if I
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come to you with my emotional
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experience, you would then hear me, see
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me, validate it. And so that would be
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one adaptation is just to avoid it
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altogether. Perhaps if they did bring
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things up, a conflict would have
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escalated instead of being resolved. So
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this is someone who comes to their
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parent or parents and says you know this
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is an issue and then they would be
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further criticized and maybe even abused
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depending on the nature of this of the
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experience and maybe their needs led to
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more criticism or even further rejection
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and so they would then further shut down
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because the message when a parent treats
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a child like that is what you need or
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want doesn't matter and I'm not here to
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listen and if you bring it up to me it's
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actually going to make it worse. And so
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that's a learning that happens. And so
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another adaptation would be like staying
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quiet helps keep things from getting
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escalated or making things worse. And so
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if I don't even address it, then maybe I
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won't be part of the problem. So the na
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the nervous system learned, right? We're
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adaptive beings. That's what this whole
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show is about is our adaptations. And so
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the adaptation was learned. If I shut
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down, I can stay safe internally.
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Stonewalling often sounds like, "I don't
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have the words. This is too much. I
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don't matter. I'm gonna mess this up.
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I'm gonna make it worse. They won't
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listen. They don't care. They're
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impossible. And if I engage, it will
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just make it worse. It'll just explode."
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And so for many people who have
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stonewalling as part of their
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adaptation, that silence was the only
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thing that meant safety because they
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just don't want to be part of the
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problem. And so when I think about
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treatment as an EMDR therapist, when you
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look at this behavior from an adaptive
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information processing perspective,
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stonewalling is often rooted in those
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earlier experiences where those
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emotional expression would have led to
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danger or shame or helplessness. And you
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know in sitting across from clients for
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nearly 15 years now what I have learned
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that when this happens in behavior and
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relationship these people often grew up
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in homes where there was intense
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conflict where there was a lot of
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absence where they were punished or
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shamed for expressing their feelings. Um
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or caregivers were just totally
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emotionally unavailable. They were
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distracted. They weren't present. They
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weren't available. They weren't attuned.
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And being overwhelmed by others emotions
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without support leads to that. They
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might have learned that disappearing
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kept the peace, staying small, go alone,
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you know, get along and go along. And so
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those experiences form memory networks
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and beliefs that are attached to those
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memory networks that say conflict equals
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danger. Emotions are unsafe. I need to
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shut down to survive. I've got to go it
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alone and handle it on my own. Nobody
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cares and nobody's listening. So when a
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current partner or someone in
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relationship expresses distress, the
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past gets activated and then the body
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reacts before that adult brain can step
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Stonewalling is often an echo of an
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earlier time when there was no safe way
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to stay present or to have needs met