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What could an Andy Burnham manifesto look like? LBC callers have their say with Nick Ferrari. 00:00 What should the next Prime Minister’s priority be? 00:51 Caller Lucy says money needs to stop being given to France and diverted to the defence budget 02:10 Caller Stephen says Burnham needs to ‘think outside of the box’ and says we should introduce road tolls on foreign-registered vehicles 05:31 Peter believes creating energy should be the number one priority 06:49 Listeners share their thoughts 07:04 Katherine says the net zero tax and the death tax should be scrapped 08:09 We must prioritise defence, says caller Shouvik 08:47 Geoff would like to see passports for people in creative industries to travel Europe 10:09 Nationalising railways, banning second jobs for MPs, and reaching net zero as quickly as possible are among other suggestions LBC listeners have sent in Listen to the full show on the all-new LBC App: https://app.af.lbc.co.uk/btnc/thenewlbcapp #nickferrari #politics #news #andyburnham #primeminister #ukpolitics #uknews #debate #downingstreet #keirstarmer #LBC LBC is the home of live debate around news and current affairs in the UK. Join in the conversation and listen at https://www.lbc.co.uk/ Sign up to LBC’s weekly newsletter here: https://l-bc.co/signup
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I asked what you would want at the top of his, the Burnham Brief
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And let's give you the top six, starting in ascending order. Immigration came in, greater control
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Now, here's an interesting one at number five, creation of a wealth tax
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That, to me, makes no sense, whatever. But that's what you're saying, so I must reflect it
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Tackling the problem of youth unemployment is the top fourth, or fourth highest priority
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Here we go to the top three. Spend more in social care. We'll get the bronze medal there
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Defence comes in with the silver medal. So what are most of you saying is the number one to-do list
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to make Andy handy? Start drilling in the North Sea. That's your number one priority
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If he does do that, it's unlikely that Ed Miliband, of course, would be his chancellive
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because I would imagine they would be at loggerheads over that. But let's talk more about the Burnham Brief
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Lucy's in Muswell Hill. What would you put in, Lucy, and why? Good morning. Good morning, Nick
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Firstly, congratulations on your award. Oh, that's so kind of you. thank you very much indeed Lucy
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well thank you for voting whoever voted for me marvellous thank you well deserved my
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and his brief would be for him to stop giving the money to France
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to supposedly stop the boats which isn't really happening around half a billion pounds to date we've sent over to France
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I would stop giving that money to them and the police would stop waving
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people over and I think that that money ought to immediately be diverted to the defence budget
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A lot of people agree with defence. I'm just reminding, I think it came in, yes, it was in second place
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Are you encouraged by what would appear to be Andy Burnham being the Prime Minister
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Not really. I think the last time I spoke to you, I didn't really want him to win the election
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Oh, right. Oh, dear. So it's not going your way at all, is it? Not really, but then, you know, sort of, well, you never know
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We might have positive sound of it, so that's got to be good. If people are positive, then that's got to be better
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Yes, isn't it? Yeah, well, I think Sir Keir Starmer will get a man who did his best
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but he didn't actually really have that much of an idea of where he wanted to take the country
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Lucy, thank you. Let's stay with the Burnham Brief, and we go to Richmond and Stephen. Good morning, Stephen
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Are you by the river in Richmond today? How lovely of you are. I wish I was
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No, I wish I was. I'm stuck in the office. Oh, are you? Right, go on. Nick Mays, I first say congratulations on your award
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thank you very much I've listened to you for so long and you're just a breath of fresh air
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well they furious every woman out but there we are we beat them and as for the knockout you done with Mr Farage earlier on that just shows how fantastic you are at the interview
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Well, I don't know. OK, good. We perhaps needed to answer the question
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What do we need to see from the Prime Minister, would you say, Stephen? Well, I think we need to think out of the box
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If he's going to do the same old, same old, this, that, and all that's fine
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I think he should introduce a tax that's not going to upset us
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Now you think to yourself, oh my goodness. Yeah, where are you going to find one of those? Well, I drive a lot over to Bulgaria
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Right. Is that for business or pleasure? For a bit of both, yeah
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A bit of both, yeah. And whenever I go through any country
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I've got to pay a vingette or I've got to pay a toll. You try and go through Austria, for instance
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and see if I can get past a camera before the police pull you over and give you a 150 euro fine
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Right. Everywhere you go through Europe, you've got to pay a toll. Now, everybody comes over to the UK and they pay nothing
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except the M6 toll, of course. I believe a tax can be revenue
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and it's a tax that's not going to burden us. It's going to help the roads
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it's going to help transportation. You couldn't even sort of angle it as going to help immigration in a small sort of way
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I don't know. So, you know, it ticks all these boxes and it's not affecting us
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It'll bring in millions. Do we know how much a country like Austria
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gets per annum from its road tolls? Well, every single person who goes through in a car
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has got to pay 35 euros. if you're caught even going through it
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you get 150 euro firing plus the 35 or they'll take the car off you
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you go to Slovenia before you even get into the country to slither through a small part
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of it, then you've got to pay 50 euros you go through the French motorways as you know, the toll roads
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go through Germany, the toll roads we get tolled everywhere and we've got
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all the heavy goods vehicles and other vehicles coming over, which are quite clearly
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causing damage, you just have to drive it over and look at the state of the roads
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and that's not done by people who are going on the bicycles. That's done by heavy goods vehicles that are coming in
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that we are not taxing. Now, I think it's only fair that we should pay a bin get
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Well, in this country, they should pay tax. They should be checked, they should have tax
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they should have it before they get on the boat. That is a revenue that people will be happy about
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It's not going to take out anybody's pockets, it's going to go back into transport. Last question
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Some would say, what about the cost of building all those toll booths? That will not come cheap
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You will obviously argue, well, it'll soon pay for itself, I imagine. Well, we've got one on the M6 toll
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but I think you could have a vingette before they arrive in the country. Every vehicle's got to have
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a vingette for seven days like you do in any of these other countries. You've got to buy that vignette
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You go to Bulgaria, you've got to have that vignette so you should have a vignette You get that before and there no tolls bought there you get it before you get on the underground on the ferry before you get onto the channel you have got to have that You get checked on the side
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if you don't, you get framed. All right. Stephen, it's an idea, and as you said, quite rightly, sir
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is this thinking outside the box? It's giving it a different idea. And as you again rightly say
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some of those trucks that come through from overseas, they leave the potholes for the rest of us to contend with
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Peter, what should be at the top? Good morning. Energy. What, getting the price down or creating green energy or tidal energy
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We are creating it. Go on, tell me how. I mean, we've got more waterways, riverways
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than any other country of our size. Well, of course, we're an island for a start, which is going to help, obviously
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And if you look at any old film, what's the first thing you see
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The opening credits. A mill, a water mill. Oh, right. Do we use any of that
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Do we, hecky thump. We won't even agree to how much we take out of the sea
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Right. So are you a fan of something like tidal power as well? Yeah, of course
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So we did a few months, no, probably actually over a year ago, we looked at, I'm not saying it's not the solution, sir
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it's incredibly expensive to put in. I mean, ridiculously expensive to do all these barrages
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or whatever they're called, Nigel Barrage. Oh, so what? I mean, we've wasted it
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Look how much money we've got still involved in the 2025 saga with regards to face masks and all the rest of it
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Yes, yes. I mean, I understand there's still a warehouse full of that stuff that didn't meet anybody's standard
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What should be the top of the to-do list? Lee says immigration, immigration, immigration
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I remember education, education, education. Michelle says the end of the triple lock
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This comes in from Charlotte. Defence, defence, defence, defence. If you say it three times, it must be true
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Catherine's in Halwell. Catherine, what would you put on the Burnham blueprint? Good morning. Oh, good morning
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Oh, definitely cost of living. You know, how to bring that down
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Especially, you know, net zero being included in everybody's energy bill. Would you wind back net zero to a degree then
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Would you sort of try and put Ed Miliband back in his box to a point? I think this has been very bad for business
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these huge energy bills and it's been very bad for ordinary people. And other countries
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they don't load the cost of net zero onto taxpayers, onto everybody
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The government pays it And also you know water companies quoted water that vital for everybody But one thing I don want to be on the list is this death tax he talking about
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that everybody will have to pay a tax on the estate because I think that's going to be massively unpopular like the poll tax
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and like Theresa May's plans you know for to pay for social care
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and I think if he puts that in and tries to do that it's going to be like Keir Starmer all over again
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Shuvik in Victoria, your policy, top of Andy's to-do list. Good morning
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Good morning, Nick. Yes, I think we should... The Defence Security Review should be published first
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Defence Investment Plan, the DIP, you mean? Yep, Defence Investment Plan. Yeah, the Defence Investment Plan should be published
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and then we need to discuss what a forthcoming defence priority should be
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whether it's the National Cyber Security Centre or drones or the World Service
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And we need to be mindful of cost overruns, for example, with the Ajax tanks
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Thanks for that. Another vote for defence. Geoff in Carmarthen. Geoff, where would you want to see his attention
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and indeed the money go? Good morning. Morning, Nick. Yes, there's one thing he could do
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to get growth into the economy. It wouldn't cost him anything. And it's in the Labour manifesto
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And Starmer didn't implement it, which is passports for artists and creative people
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for graphic designers, our creative industry. Give us passports so we can go into Europe
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and so Europe musicians can come here. Sorry, how can the UK give you Euro-friendly passports
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I'm not being critical, I don't understand. Well, it was offered. So when they, oh, what was his name
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the guy who negotiated the EU? No, no, the Frost, Lord Frost
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Oh, sorry, the British one. Right, yeah, David Frost, Lord Frost. He was offered that the EU were prepared to give musicians and passports
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I see. Passports, and he turned it down. He didn't want it
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We just want to be able to take our guitars, our equipment, our staging, our lighting
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How much has it affected you personally? Well, it's affected every band
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You can't tour in Europe anymore, and it's had a massive detriment to the creative industries generally
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It's not just modern musicians. It's also artists, graphic design. all the creative industries, the theatre, the television
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All right, thank you for that. That's another idea we're putting on the list. Johnny Wong says, end MPs, second jobs
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Andy says, nationalise the railways. Ron says, reach net zero as quickly as possible
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Adam says, my one policy government must spend less than it takes in taxes
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