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14-year-old caller Lila takes personal issue with LBC's coverage of PM Andy Burnham's holiday, and makes sure to let Shelagh know.
She opens by telling Shelagh she's 'contradicting herself', and the call escalates from there.
After a bit of back and forth on whether it's productive for LBC to be talking so much about Burnham's holiday, Shelagh praises Lila for being a 'very good speaker'.
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Hello, I am Leela. I'm a first-time caller
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I am 14 and I am very interested in politics. Hello, Leela. Good to meet you
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Good to meet you. Nice to meet you. I think you're contradicting yourself
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because you keep on saying, I'm not attacking him, but then you attack him two days
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like two seconds later. Also, you keep on saying that you're not throwing any shade
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but I don't get what the issue is about a man who just wants to cherish moments with his family
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Yeah, well, the reason I stand by my statement that I'm not throwing shade or attacking him
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is that I haven't thrown shade or attacked him. I am saying that I disagree with his decision
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which is my right, his right to disagree with mine, your right to disagree with mine
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I disagree with his decision. And I'm just making the point that I, to my surprise
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was very certain that I wouldn't have made the same decision. And that's why I wanted to have a conversation
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with people like you on the radio about it, Lila. Okay, well, I feel like it's not the most relevant thing
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that can be talked about. To be honest, I don't get what's so wrong
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with someone going on holiday. And it doesn't really count as a holiday if you think about it
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because he's still doing all his work. So it's not like he's neglecting it. Why go on it then, if it doesn't count as a holiday
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Well, wouldn't it be nice to spend some moments with your family before you take on a full-time
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very demanding job? Yes, yes, it would. And he still can, can't he
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Even when he's taking it on. Yes, of course. But I feel like the holiday one might have been pre-planned
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and two wouldn't it just be a lot better for him to
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spend time with his family on a holiday that he honestly didn know he was going to have to cast aside because the role he got it so abruptly well he it emerged he was planning to try and get it
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for a year but but he he got it faster i think than he thought he would get it yeah so he could
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have gone on that uh he could have booked that holiday in advance unaware that he was going to
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become prime minister so quickly um also i feel like we should be using such a large-scale radio
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to talk about actual conflict in the world and sort of not just about someone going on holiday
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I feel like there are a lot more relevant things that we could talk about with our time
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Well, we talk about a lot of things. So what would you rather we talked about this hour
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Because we do talk about all kinds of topics and places in the world. We're just not this hour
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I would really like conflicts around the world, specifically in Gaza, to be addressed
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I feel like we could talk about much more. You think it's not talked about? well i feel like right now we could be talking about it instead of talking about whether someone
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goes on holiday or not we talk about gaza a lot we talk about all kinds of aspects of our own
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politics and world politics an awful lot and also i suggest that um we should start talking about
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maybe generational things and start talking about maybe an internalized i don't know looking down
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on other generations because as the future, I feel like more Gen Z and even very young children
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should be more informed about a lot of this stuff. And I feel like maybe as a spokesperson of my generation it should be something that I don know should be more included with pop radios instead of a man going on holiday Well we do again you know we not talking about
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it this, although you've kindly helped us to talk about it this hour, but we do talk a lot
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about intergenerational issues and a lot, and in fact Andy Burnham himself has spoken a lot
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about the opportunities and lack of opportunities for young people. And it's going to be a central
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test of his premiership so we we do talk about it already i mean you know i grant you that we
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haven't been this hour until you raised it but that doesn't mean we don't talk about it okay
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can i ask you as somebody who loves your politics um how you found the last few weeks it must have
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been fascinating for you to watch and to see the process unfold of him becoming prime minister
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yes i think it was quite interesting but the amount of resignations that have happened so far
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and, you know, everyone debating about parties and things. It's been quite interesting
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But in all honesty, I don't think that holidays should be kind of talked about as much as we have talked about them now
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Well, on the surface of it, we're talking about a holiday. But actually, aren't we talking about the man who's just become prime minister
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whether we approve of something he's done, whether we think he's making a good decision or a bad decision
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Does that not go a bit deeper than just whether a holiday has happened or not
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Yes, of course, but I don't, I think it's quite a neutral decision because he's not
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neglecting his work. And at the same time he especially as a child I really like to cherish going on holidays with my family I very grateful to go on them But I feel as if he is not treating his family
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as a sort of second priority or casting them aside. I feel like it's quite good to be a well-rounded person
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instead of just focusing on your job. Yeah, that's true. And when you talk there about being a representative
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of your age group, are you interested in going into politics, Leela
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Well, maybe I could see myself in a political path in the future
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but I don't know. Time will tell. I can see you doing it too. You're a very good speaker
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Thank you. You're very welcome. And what do you make of him so far
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Or are you withholding judgment until you've seen a bit more? The thing is, I don't personally support the Labour Party
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so I tend to think quite neutrally of politicians but I don't think he has done anything too controversial in the past
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to my knowledge. So I'm not quite sure. I'm just taking this from a very unbiased view
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and about what the current topic is. You're letting it all in and having a think
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Yeah, I'd like to see how Andy Burnham would take on the role as the new Prime Minister. Yeah, well, if he wasn't on holiday, you could
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Well, I don't know. He's still doing work from holidays, you know what? Well, so we're told, Lila, so we're told
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Well, we'll see how it goes, hopefully. Thank you very much for your call
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Thank you. Thank you. Goodbye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye, Lila. Lila, 14. She's a great speaker, isn't she
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