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chat with Malcolm first in Brighton about the small boats. Hello Malcolm. Morning
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Hello. I've got nothing against people that... Sorry, what's your name again? Ben
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Ben. Sorry, Ben. But, you know, I've just got a paper and I've just read in the paper
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the mail about two migrants in court over with a 12-year-old girl. Now listen, if people
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come to this country... Allegedly. Yeah, they've been accused of it. Yeah, but they've been to court. Yeah, they're going in court. And there's a picture of people
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laughing there. Now, if you come to this country, you've got to behave yourself and go by laws
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I'm not a racist. I'm mixed race myself. My father came over here from Ghana in the wind rush
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worked hard. I worked from 15 to 68 and a half. And the more I hear and everything else, it's so sad
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And if we're not careful, we're going to have civil war here. English people have had enough
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That's a bit going far. No, no, no. Just listen to what I have to say for a minute
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because I feel it's really important. Sorry. If we're not careful, if the government, any government
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this government or any government, doesn't do anything about it soon, The majority of the English people are quite okay with it all and everything else but it now becoming a joke You see them coming in from four hotels because I seen it for myself Not many of them are in four hotels Mark
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No, no, no. Very, very small minority. In Bournemouth and Eastbourne, four-star hotels
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which we are paying for, they get £49 a week, which is coming out of our money
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These people have not put anything into this country. That's because we don't let them work
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Pardon? That's because we don't let them work. No, the thing about it is, a lot of them, they don't want to work
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How do you know? Have you asked them? Yes. You've asked them? Yeah, hold on a minute
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How many asylum seekers have you asked whether they want to work? There's about 15 of them
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Well, you just go up to them in the street and say, do you want to have a job? I said to them, are you happy here
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They said, yes, it's a lovely country. This is what they told me. It's a lovely country
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We're staying in a lovely hotel and stuff. And they've got bicycles and they go, there's Uber, like delivering food and all the rest
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I don't know how they get paid for that. But I'm not being funny. My father come over here in the 50s and stuff and worked
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I left school at 15 and worked at 68 and a half And you know I not a racist I not this I not that I not for the 90 thing but enough enough But you just told me they are working even though they don so they don want to work
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but they are working, as delivery drivers. No, no, no, no, you're not listening
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I am listening, you just said two different things. Yeah, yeah, they are working, some of them are working, so I mean, ask some of them
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Right, so they don't want to work, but some of them are working. No, no
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Malcolm, you just told me, you're talking to 15 asylum seekers who don't want to work, while some of them are working
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No. Right. Some of them are... Make your mind up. Can you just let me explain, please
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I asked about 15 and they said they're working. I think it's cash in hand. So why did you tell me these... Your words
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these people don't want to work? No. A lot of these people come over here
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they don't want to work, they want an easy life. Based on what? Because you've just told me
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you've spoken to 15, most of whom are working. So what's your basis for them? They are working illegally
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That's not what you say, is it? why do you think they're working illegally malcolm well because it's easy money we are
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because they not allowed to work legally so they have to work illegally i not saying it right but that why they working illegally because they can work legally these people who quote unquote don want to work So you gone in two minutes from they don want to work
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for your issue being they don't want to work, to they are working, but they're working illegally
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Which is an enormous contradiction, isn't it? No, but some of them are working illegally
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No, some of them are working illegally. If I went to America, I would have to have a green card, wouldn't I
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But you accept, Malcolm, that they do want to work. A lot of them don't
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They come over here with their families and calls, right? How do you know this? Because you see it and hear it in the news, in the papers
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Well, I'm reading the mail at the moment, and there's several papers you read
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It's really sad. It is sad, but it's also sad how people are being tarnished
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with a brush that doesn't apply to many of them, with statements like, none of these people want to work
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respectfully, Malcolm, before you, a couple of minutes later, the few that you have spoken to, are mostly working
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Appreciate that. I understand your frustration, and you speak for a lot of people, Magma, but facts matter here
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And a lot of them do want to work, and some of them, by your own admission, are working
