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"If you looked at how many lesbians there are, it would be massively disproportionate!" (00:00) Caller Dan believes the 'senior echelons of the police' have been overtaken by 'DEI philosophy'. But Henry Riley points out that there are no lesbian chief constables in the UK. (04:10) Patrick joins the fray, claiming Britain is subject to 'two-tier policing', insisting that 'nobody can change his mind'. Listen to the full show on the all-new LBC App: https://app.af.lbc.co.uk/btnc/thenewlbcapp #police #crime #uk #LBC LBC is the home of live debate around news and current affairs in the UK. Join in the conversation and listen at https://www.lbc.co.uk/ Sign up to LBC’s weekly newsletter here: https://l-bc.co/signup
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I'm hearing all these people on my journey home talking about the police in the UK
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and I come from a UK police family. Right. My dad served for 40 years
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That's 4-0 in the Derbyshire Constabulary. My brother has served for the last 20 years across the Met and Essex
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He's just left the country. He's just gone to Australia. Right. Part of the reason being the low morale in the force
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And one of the things you don't hear about and the mainstream media doesn't really tell you about
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is the police hemorrhaging good old-fashioned police officers who just can't wait to get out
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It's not by the mainstream media. It is publicised. Is it? Yeah
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Oh, OK. So if you speak to any rank and file, there's many different ways we can look at the two tiers
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but there's another two-tier issue here, which is that between the senior police officers and the rank and file
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Well, if you speak to any rank-and-file police officer, they'll tell you that it's absolute double standard
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So it's absolute two-tier policing. In what way? In the sense that, so first of all, the more senior police officers, all those jobs have been people with certain characteristics
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So LGBT, you know, DEI philosophy basically has led the way when it's come to the selection of senior police officers
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And that has also been instrumental in the way that the police has conducted itself I mean if you look at chief constables most of them are white It hard to think of many non chief constables
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I think if you... Well, that may or may not be true, but I think if you looked at how many lesbians there are
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for example, in the... What? It would be massively disproportionate to the..
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No, I would just say, go look at the UK chief constables and tell me how many of them are white lesbians
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and then tell me what the proportion is amongst the UK... One or two
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No, absolutely not. Absolutely not, sir. No, that is completely incorrect. Where did you get that information from
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Well, let me explain. Given that there are about, what, 40 police chief constables in the UK
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you're really telling me that there are loads who are white lesbians
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Absolutely. Right. Well, I can't wait to look that up earlier because I don't think there's that many
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Anyway, back to the point. I didn't want to go down that road, but since you asked..
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Well, you brought up respectfully, but fine. Well, obviously you don't know either because you've just said, I bet you
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I mean, funny enough, I don't know that every chief constable off the top of my head. I don't have the specific number
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but it's in the high single or even into double digits. Right, I'll have a look
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But anyway, back to the actual point. Actual police officers will tell you that they are forced to
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and basically they have the fear of God put into them. There are no lesbian chief constables currently serving in the UK
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Well, that is just simply not true. look at the Chief Council of Derbyshire. I'll have a look at the Chief Council of Derbyshire
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I've not got a computer in front of me, but you're obviously Googling away there. I am
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Google the... Simon Blatley. Simon Blatley I mean I don think he a lesbian woman He doesn sound like one to me He may be new There was Rachel Swan who was there Rachel Swan was the chief
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Yeah, she's no longer. And when did she leave? When did she leave, sorry? She became chief constable
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She left at the start of this year. Okay. Well, I live in the state
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My information's probably out of date. Your lesbian chief constable doesn't point to a massive DEI agenda
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There is a huge DEI agenda within the UK police If you speak to actual police officers
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you would know that Basically I'm not in front of a computer
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but in the senior echelons of the UK police In the senior echelons of the UK police
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there's a huge How many black chief constables do you think there are in the UK
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I don't know Zero okay yeah but dei's gone mad hasn't it thanks dan patrick's a first time caller in sao parlo
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hi patrick hi there i hope you can hear me fine i can i'm a uk citizen but i live in brazil
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okay i've been living here for over 30 years fantastic and uh lucky you i follow everything
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that the uk that's happening in the uk can you hear me fine yeah yeah i can hear you like you're
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in the room perfect absolutely so great so listen i think that the police in the uk is two-tiered
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do i have proof no does anyone really have proof no but guess what nobody will change my mind
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because that's the way things feel in the uk nowadays respectfully i'm not having you either
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coming on and saying because you feel from sao parlo like there two policing in the uk that there is Yes I go back to the UK every time I work for the UK company Give me an example then please of two policing
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No, no, you have to give me an example. You can't just say there is. Give me an example. Because nobody can say anything bad about a brown person
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What? We have racism all the time in the UK. Not that that's okay, by the way
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What do you mean no one can say anything bad about a brown person? That's called racism. Okay, so listen, the police approached a Sikh man on this case, right
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Yes. How dare this religion group carry knives with them around the streets of London or the streets of the UK
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How dare them? How dare the police not say, where's your knife
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Why didn't they handcuff a Sikh man who carries a knife with him
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Often it's not a knife, as you've been hearing the last few days. is that kia pan can often be a sort of
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almost like a badge, or it can be around the necklace. A badge, I do not care
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It's a knife. We do not carry that in the UK. Can you tell..
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What's an example of the two-tier policing that you've alleged, though? No, but let's go back
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The police cannot carry knives. Well, no, but let's go back to what you said. How can they carry knives? You realistically have, you know
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you're on your uppers in Sao Paulo, which is great, and I'm very happy for you. You've got all the sun you can want
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but how is there two-tier policing that you're watching on from Sao Paulo? How can you prove that there's a two-tier policing
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Yeah, that's what I'm asking you. That's what you've alleged. Nobody can prove that's the point
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It's an endless argument. Okay, so we just assume there is. Whatever Farage is saying, everyone will agree because we know he's going to be the next PM
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