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How to Use Your Voice to Regulate Your Emotions
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Feb 6, 2025
Welcome to Adaptable | Behavior Explained! Discover the power of your voice as a tool for emotional regulation! In this video, we'll explore how the way you speak, tone, pitch, and rhythm can influence your mood and overall emotional state. Whether you're feeling anxious, stressed, or overwhelmed, learning to harness your vocal expression can bring about a sense of calm and control. Join us as we dive into practical techniques that you can use anytime, anywhere, to transform your emotions through the simple yet profound act of using your voice. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more tips on mastering your emotions and living a balanced life! I'm Kelly O'Horo, Attachment based EMDR Therapist, EMDRIA Consultant, and Advanced Trainer. I'm a mom of 5, Nonna of 5, wife, and a healer. I have the honor of spending my workdays walking along side people while they brave their healing journeys. I try to live with the generous assumption that we're all doing the best we can with what we know. Therapists are teachers for the "life stuff" and "emotional vocabulary" that may not have been learned due to gaps in our care givers capabilities. In the last 15 years I've learned that people are freaking amazing, resilient, and inspiring. Most importantly, we are hardwired for connection and for healing! I hope to bring an authentic, compassionate, and unpolished approach while we explore a variety of topics such as parenting, marriage, relationships, dating, trauma, attachment, adoption, depression, addiction, anxiety, and love! There's a why for all behaviors and an explanation that makes perfect sense as emotion is at the root of it all. -- Links -- https://linktr.ee/kellyohorolpc https://youtu.be/rLnARKekvgo https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/
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hi everyone I'm Kell ooro and this is adaptable Behavior explained hello there
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thank you so much for tuning in to our show adaptable today I'm really excited to have with us a guest that I've gotten
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to know over the last four years uh his name is satian Patel and he is my singing coach uh I developed a hobby
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over covid because I was going a little crazy and kept it up afterwards because I was having so much fun depending on
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emotional state the things that have happened in our day and our emotional life it shows up in our voice and so
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today we're going to get a deep dive into how that all plays into what we can do to better utilize voice and sound and
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to help us stabilize and regulate our emotions so I'm going to introduce Saum here tell us a little bit about yourself
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and why this is a an important topic for you sure thanks for asking and than for
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inviting me on absolutely honored oh yes um I'm a voice instructor and I'm also
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what you consider a sound healer uh I've been teaching for 25 years and my specialty is vocal technique my interest
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has always been how the voice affects um how it's affected my mood since I was
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young and so it's been fascinating kind of a journey to start from like being young like my earliest memories are when
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I was with my mom and we would pray and we would sing We would do things like that and then fast forward you know you
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kind of start to develop This Joy of singing and and I think a lot of people do whether they want to admit it or not
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and from that um it's just kind of interesting because I was a Premed student and eventually got into voice
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teaching somehow miraculously and uh have fell in love with it and just notice these things and some of the
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things that we'll talk about today will be based off of the things that I've experienced and learned from my teaching so I'm excited to have this conversation
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with you that's that's awesome thank you for sharing you know in just a little personal insight about what prompted me
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to start taking lessons with you I sing all the time I sing in the car I sing in the shower and I I just wasn't at all
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very good but I didn't care so much I just sang and I thought if I'm going to take on a hobby or do something to
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enrich the more creative side of me because as a trauma therapist you know I I do a lot of reading studying and the
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topic is not very relaxing and so thinking about a way to bring more balance to my daily habits and to have a
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little bit more well-rounded way of spending my time I wanted to uh begin something that I could continue that
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didn't necessarily require uh money time space but I could do it wherever I went
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and and I love that you bring up you know how we are affected by uh music and
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sound and all of that because it's so true and most of us are just not quite aware of that right yeah so saam let me
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just start with our first question can you explain to our audience how our voice can be a barometer for our
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emotional states yes absolutely our voice is definitely affected by our
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emotions and our emotions are reflected in our voice so I would say physiologically and psychologically so
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physiologically think about it when um our heart rate's affected so if we're excited our heart rate goes up if we're
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nervous same thing if we're sad it kind of slows down or if we're calm our heart
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rate um if we go into what's next next our breath control so we definitely lose
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air if we're anxious right we talk a little faster we might take um quick breaths and so all of a sudden all this
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air is coming through and we're a little winded sure um and then if you think
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about like the muscles around the voice box the vocal folds and those muscles they tend to tense so sometimes that can
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create a strain in the voice and or even lift the pitch so people are talking a little higher than they usually do and
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you've pointed stuff like that out with me you're like what's going on today because it just feels like your LX
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is being constricted and can you just put your hand on your throat and just notice that and so you bring mindful
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attention to things that are going on at least with me I imagine with all of your other students and then sometimes that's
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the first time in the day that I've even slowed down enough to really consider what might be going on and I mean I've
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even had lessons with you where um you cause you know you ask me to pause and
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notice something and I do for the first time and then I you know I've even just started crying and I'm just like gosh I
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didn't even know I was dealing with this whatever emotion that's been pent up and just by slowing down and you being so
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keyed in to those those things you're talking about you know we work through it and you're always of course so loving
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and patient and I just sit there and cry until we're done and then back to singing It's only happened once maybe
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twice I mean a couple times but but I mean many times you've brought attention to something going on and there's
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usually something that has happened in the day or maybe I had therapy that day or I had a hard conversation and uh or
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something was unresolved and with one of my relationships and there was just evidence of that in the way that I was
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bringing my voice to you and my body and all of those things so I think it's really brilliant that you're so attuned
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to those things I think we all are you know and I think that the cool thing that you said is bringing awareness to
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it because as soon as you bring awareness to it what happens the body finds a way to balance itself out so
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just noticing something can relax the body and so you might probably do that in your work all the time absolutely I
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mean it's all about mindful awareness and you know once we do bring attention to that thing whatever that was often
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times like you just said it will shift we'll get a shift and and then it becomes available to bring a more
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relaxed presence whether it was to the story or in your case to to someone who's singing so yeah yeah yeah so can
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you tell me a little bit more about how tone and Pitch change um when we're experiencing different emotions
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yeah absolutely so tone and pitch and you can even add to that volume and even speed at which we speak so when you say
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volume what do you mean by that yeah so volume like how loud you are how quiet you are you know Dynamics the pitch part
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of it sometimes our voice goes up sometimes our voice goes down um the tone is like the quality of our voice so
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sometimes there's more of a a breathy tone or a constricted tone or a raspy
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all those are part of it so we have pitch volume tone and speed so sometimes when someone's nervous they might speak
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very very quickly or excited you know guess what happened to me this over weekend and so there's a little bit more
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speed or someone who might be more withdrawn um or sad they might talk a little quieter and slower and right we
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call that kind of a flat affect presentation so it's like withdrawn or or more shut down and that's usually a
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sign of some depressive symptoms sure sure see you already do that yeah yeah well and when you said you know I think
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everyone notices that I I would argue that some people notice that some people are a bit oblivious to it but I think
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the more attuned we are to the person that we're engaging with we we might
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pick up on some of those things and of course of course we tend to be better at it with people that we know better or
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people that we're closer to and attachment relationships because those relationships and our maintenance of
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connection is more important as far as survival and we may not notice strangers
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in their tone or pitch or whatever changing because because you know if they're happy or sad with us it doesn't
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necessarily make the same impact on our okayness or our well-being and so so I think you probably are around people who
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are more in tune because that's how you are and we tend to be around more like-minded people but I can say that a
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lot of people very much miss those cues so it's something that I think as the a result of this show perhaps people can
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key in more to it to have a little more awareness about what is going on and maybe what are some of the cues that I'm
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noticing and then that might be something we ask absolutely to prompt inquiry or curiosity with whoever we're
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talking to and I'm just going to do a little Side Story like in my training when I was developing to become a really good teacher I would observe teachers
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that I felt inspired by and I would watch them teach and I'd notice that they would hear things that I couldn't
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even hear and they would you know after their lesson they would teach I would go up to them like how are you hearing this
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and they're like you can too and I'm just thinking like what are you crazy I'll never be be able to hear the details that you can hear and sure
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enough like as you bring awareness to it you start to notice things and it's crazy because the thing that you said
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about you know we have attach emotional attachment to certain people or the people that we love and we notice things
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more about them there's a friend of mine that and I think I might have shared this to you a while ago but there's a
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friend of mine that I could tell if she's eaten if she has a headache um just by her voice and I I initially it
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was a guest but stud not one of my students and it's it's fascinating because it is some people like that's
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like a superpower and I used to believe that too until I go I just do it all the time I do feel like it's a bit of a superpower with you because I'm like
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seriously what are you how are you noticing that in me because I can't recognize the subtlety in myself sure
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sure and you know and we're in a society where we're go- go go all the time so most of us are not very regulated to pay
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attention to the things that are going on within ourselves so it's nice to have a mirror once in a while but it's also
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kind of um exposing to go oh my gosh you can tell right well speaking of exposure what are
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some of the signs that you'd see that might be indicative of someone holding emotional tension you know stress or
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anxiety what what do you see what what might we look for so it's to me it's not just what I hear it's also what I see
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right and and we can we can and and feel to me it's palpable when someone's stressed out or someone's feeling good
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you know people I want to hang out with are like high flying vibing people that that are excited about life and they
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have goals and things and so um or have an optimis Outlook so you can feel that stuff um and just kind of like we
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mentioned before it's not something that I'm necessarily conscious in that moment because it's a it's a total picture of
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what's happening but how they sound their excitement their engagement and
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there's even like musicality in the voice like a melody people with more excitement in their voice they tend to
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have a more broader spectrum of range when they use their voice like they they'll talk up high and they'll also
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talk down here and there's this big dynamic so um I don't even know if I
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answered your question yeah no you you totally did and it got me thinking so we we do something here at infinite uh it's
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called evox and it's a biof feedback instrument and the technology is so so
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so smart and it picks up on uh tones and so part of how it works is we speak into
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the mic and the software reads our tone of our voice and our pitch isn't that phenomenal it's crazy and what it does
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is it feeds back counter music to balance out the uh the undertone of
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voice and I have not read one of those printouts that wasn't spot on per my you know my clinical assessment of a person
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it you know the the machine the the technology the software reads it back and I'm like that was so accurate and it
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it hears the difference in the intonation and then the emotional cues that go with each uh chord a chord would
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represent a specific emotional um or maybe it's not the right word is maybe
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not chord but it hears something in the tone of the voice that is it's probably frequency based right so it just matches
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a certain frequency and counters it with something else I just trust the software because I've never seen it not spit out something completely accurate but it's
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phenomenal how it works to help bring awareness and balance and insight to the emotional experience that is perhaps
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often times subconscious so isn't it nice that we have technology that's catching up to some of these things like sound healing it's so cool it's so so
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cool so can you discuss for us the the connection between vocal frequency or
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vocal tone and self-confidence yeah so I think they're super interconnected um if
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you just think about how someone who is self-confident presents themselves right kind of what we just spoke on where
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their volume is probably more projected more um I want to say use the word confident but I can't use that because
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I'm trying to describe why it's confident so volume is definitely something there um their calm collected
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way of speaking so it it shows that they're in control um there's also more
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pitch variability so there's also that um we also notice that there's a level
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engagement that selfconfidence tends to like command attention it tends to
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convey Authority it inspires like trustworthiness right so and you see it
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in all forms of work whether it's sales or a service provider when someone's confident even if they have the wrong
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information we're like yeah yeah and we believe them believe them they are so they've got it figured out delivered
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with authority that's so funny it's true it's really true my husband he actually used to do this thing where he would
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just deliver this thing with such conviction and so much you know assertiveness and then uh I never would
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pick up on it and then now I I'll look at him and I go is that total BS that you just said he's like dang you caught
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me and I'm just like man you know but it it is it's like we have trust built based on the the way someone portrays
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and it shows up with confidence you know I'm not sure you know the answer to this question uh but I was curious I've been
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picking up on a pattern in people often times around me where there's a an inflection at the end of a sentence and
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it kind of reminds me of a bit of upspeak and it it's almost like an ending statement with a question mark
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even though they don't mean for it to be a question what does that mean it usually means you are it it it
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definitely appears that you're less confident ending in that inflection up that sounds like a question today we're
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going to speak about the voice and how it connects to our emotions yes like do you know right
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versus today we're going to speak about the voice and how it connects to our emotions and we end down that shows more
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confidence it sure does so I noticed that you I love that you noticed that yeah it's it's lately become a bit of a pet peeve to me because I think that as
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I watch the people around me and oftentimes clients as as their internal sense of confidence grows I noticed that
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they don't need to do that upspeak thing at the end but they might still have a habituated pattern of speaking because
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maybe before they weren't as confident in themselves about whatever they were talking about and so once that changes I
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might bring to attention I might bring it to their attention but it must be artfully done because it I don't mean
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for it to be a shaming thing but I do think it does deliver in you know the
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audience might think they do they know what they're talking about or or I don't know I just I hear it now it's
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to me I just wondered if you had you know knowledge about it yeah so sometimes I have the opportunity to work
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with speakers and so they'll give their quote Ted talk to me and I'll kind of take some notes and share some things
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and we'll kind of go into acting roles and just go okay what if we were to act like this and so maybe with your clients
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or the people that you're coaching maybe approach it from that perspective to go oh what if we were to say that
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differently just how does that feel in your body get them to really pay attention to that sense that's awesome
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yeah and how it feels different I I appreciate your awareness of that so um so let's change topics a little bit and
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talk about what can we do related to Healing using sound using our voice and
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some of these other things that we've talked about can you tell us a little bit about what is sound healing of
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course and give us some examples of what one might do to follow through with sound healing yeah sound healing has
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come a long way in the last 20 years it's become really big sound healing is basically using sound or frequency to
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affect your physical emotional spiritual well-being and so nowadays you can
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Google soundbath near me and you can find a whole bunch of people offering classes that will use different
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instruments for example like singing bowls Tibetan singing bowls crysty Crystal Alchemy singing bowls which are
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just these bowls that are made of crystal or um metal and you can ding
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them or or take a mallet and put a rim to it and it creates a vibrational pattern
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um Chimes gongs uh tuning forks I don't know if you know what those are people will hit tuning forks and maybe put them
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on the person or or just around their ear I have a friend that does that and he's like Kelly do you know we're energy
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can you tell and I'm like I do I totally know that we're energy and we're all built of energy and that's not really an
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argument with anyone at this point who understands physics right right right even like uh being in nature that could
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be sound healing right nature sounds Wildlife I love being at the beach the sound waves so so relaxing immediate
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State change immediate shift so fast right and and I teach people about vocal toning which is intentionally using your
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voice to affect those things your physical mental emotional spiritual well-being and it's different than
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singing It's not trying to sound good it's really just making sound to really affect your nervous system or even any
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kind of physical pains that you might have in your body so those are definitely ways um does the vocal toning
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have to do with vibration it's all vibration and you just spoke on like you know we know everything's energy
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everything's at a vibr vibratory state which means that we are given this
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amazing gift or voice to be able to make sound and most of us think of it from a perspective of just communicating when
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really you can also affect like you can and this sounds kind of crazy but
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manipulate the frequencies that are happening within you sure and so and a little bit around you depending
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on I mean I think that term you know we're vibing people are using so regularly now in pop culture
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references Like We Vibe together and I think that some of what we're talking about today energetically emotionally
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the frequency with which we speak all of that's part of do I Vibe with them or
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not I think there's I think there's some truth to that absolutely that situation and and yes there is that feeling of
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connection with people without even talking to them you can just feel it in their presence and that's energetic SL
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vibrational sure I could do a whole show on heart frequency and heart energy and how we can actually feel one another the
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coherence and we can feel one another up to 10t away from our heart frequency I think it's further there's actually well
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I mean that's what what the data might show you would love this movie called sacred journey of the heart it's an
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awesome movie phys uh physics math they're all scientists that came up with this frequency um learning and one of
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the concepts that I found so powerful was uh we've been measuring the frequency around the outside of the
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Earth Earth for I think it started in like the' 70s with satellites and um we
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it it pretty much measures at the same frequency and uh it's the same as our heart frequency the the U I guess the I
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don't know if it's Herz or the right word for it but yeah and so uh what we learned was after uh that frequency was
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the same except for one time in our history since we began measuring and imagine what that time was when that
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frequency changed because how of how connected we all are do you know what time after 911 after 911 we all felt
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relatively the same way at the same time and our heart energy our frequency of
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our hearts changed so palpably that that measurement actually changed as well so I think that's so fascinating and it
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just it just continues to give us more proof about how we really are so connected and I love the conversation
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that we're having today and there's one more uh point I wanted to make related to poly vagel Theory and our ventral
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vagal nerve our Vegas nerve is really affected by a few things naturally you said Nature music and animals and so
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there are things that without even doing a whole lot it'll shift that Vegas nerve activation and change the way that we're
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phys physiologically feeling from our parasympathetic to our sympathetic nervous system so I mean I really think
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it's awesome what you're doing and helping people to heal in a in a really creative and beautiful way I I love that
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so much much so how can sound healing practices uh be integrated into our
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daily routines for our own mental health and wellness I think we already do right
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you just said like going to the beach or going for a hike you're in nature
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there's some sound healing you go to a rock concert or a pop concert there's some sound healing going on you feel
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good after leaving that place um but for more of a specific examples on how you
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can help yourself anything from listening to music I like putting a playlist together of music that makes me
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feel good some of it has words some of it's instrumental it could be instruments that are from around the world that make me feel good um but
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singing in the shower singing in the car right um humming which we'll talk about in a little bit you said the Vegas nerve
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humming is a great way to kind of stimulate the Vegas nerve and to calm yourself down and if you
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watch even kids like they have such a great way of self-regulating without
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even knowing it whether they're they they cry it out they throw their tantrum and they're done they've like let that emot feels
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can come if we could just learn from every 2-year-old we probably would all be way less traumatized and behaving in such ways War like I'll just throw
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myself on the floor because I just want to have this big pity party and I hate everything about everything and then now
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I'm over it we're good and now let's moving on they have it figured out for sure I mean I I think definitely any and
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some people have access to those instruments that I mentioned earlier singing bowls or tuning Forks or that and if you don't maybe take a yoga
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needra class that has a sound bath oh I love yoga NRA so relaxing right or just a sound bath in general like have you
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ever been to a gong bath I have only been to the one sound bath that I went to at your studio and it was so awesome
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and so wonderful and I would love to make that a more regular occurrence for my own well-being but it tends to fall
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on a day that doesn't match my schedule or we travel so much that I can't make it but I loved it so much and it was
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before I did any research to prepare for the show and and met with you and you know I looked at my husband who I
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brought that day and I said I don't know why but I feel so chill now that was really awesome and I didn't have any
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overt emotional releases or anything but I just felt really even and really calm
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after that experience it was lovely just lovely good thank you and and I love that you brought that up but sound can
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be very subtle right we don't it's not like this thing that is instant for some of us like for me the beach thing yeah
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instant like I'm there I'm for water is just boom but when we're doing with more intentional sound work with our voice or
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any of that stuff that could be like it might just take a moment but like just kind of playing there and I think when we self Soo and we're singing we might
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notice that we feel better just in doing that for a few minutes and we might not notice that because so many of us are
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not mind yeah we're not here but but if we can tune in and use that proactively
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I mean every once in a while I will catch that in myself like I am just not having a good vibe right now I need to
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change the the the direction or my own frequency and I'll throw on a song that
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I know always puts pep in my step and then immediately mood shift I'm good it's cool I'm singing it's changed and
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it's so powerful and so fast you know how much we can affect our mood with just even listening to music right and
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being key in yes I love that concept of being intentional I really think that's the premise of sound healing is because we're intentionally trying to help
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ourselves right rather than just listening to music well and it's about being awake and being aware you know in
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the converse of Music where if we want to bring ourselves into a different state for example if we've had a breakup
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or we have a loss of of somebody and we want to be in that space of grief or
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feeling you know I can remember after my great-grandmother died she was a huge John Denver fan and that always just
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paired up for me you know John Denver is Granny and Granny loved John Denver and anytime I would hear John Denver I would
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just after she recently died I would just cry and be so sad and I would do that to myself on purpose to feel more
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connected with her and then now as the grief has resided I will listen to it
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and I feel the happy about her the connecting of the good memories that I had with my granny because it's still
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paired with John Denver so when you think about how it affects us it's just so darn powerful yeah it can help us
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like shift but it can also help us kind of process right so if you want to stay in that you stay in it right but no
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beautifully said so you know you've talked a little bit generally about things that affect us but can you talk a
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little bit more specific specifically about some takeaways that our audience can take with them techniques or
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specific things we can use to help improve our overall emotional experience or our mental health that could be daily
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practices yeah so I'll speak more on on voice things we always have it with us
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so that's convenient yes exactly exactly it's free so um vocal toning like I mentioned
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earlier is just using your voice with intention so if you were to find a safe space uh maybe a quiet place or a place
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that you feel like you ful can kind of let go um find that place close your eyes relax kind of take a couple of deep
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breaths and maybe start with a hum and just can we do one can you coach me
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through one and we can have an example for people sure so I'm just going to I'm just going to coach and I'll just kind of follow along sure so go and close
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your eyes Kelly for me take a deep breath exhale out the mouth yeah do one more deep inhale exhale out the
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mouth yeah and now we're going to start with a hum it doesn't matter where you are in
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Pitch great and just as you're humming and take a breath whenever you need to to restart but whenever you're humming
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notice where you feel the vibration in your body just notice where it
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is and now think of an intention that you want like say if something's emotionally bothering you or if there's
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some physical pain in your body while you're humming this might sound silly
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but intend for that sound to move into those spaces in your body so if you're
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dealing with some heartache maybe bring that sound into your heart if you're having trouble speaking
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your truth then maybe bring that up into your throat and just notice what that's doing
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for you does that feel like it's releasing something does it feel like it's opening up
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anything so let's pause for a second is there any difference in what you just did I know this is a very short
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abbreviated thing of what no I think that that it's great I feel more relaxed
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even just in tuning into the way the vibrations were felt inside of me it was
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I could feel the way they would move out like the vibrations would move out and resonate and then I found it really
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interesting to try to move the vibration into my heart space and um I'm not
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actively grieving anything but as soon as I started doing that I did think of something about which I have a lot of
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sadness for and then it just kind of moved into there and it just it just kind of dis it was just like thanks for
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seeing me and it sort of dissipated that's exactly it's like acknowledging that so it can actually let go right
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yeah it's just so cool even like things that are like back pressure exercises so if you have anger um or frustration or
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you feel a little stuck and doing things that stop the sound from leaving the mouth where like
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or oh where there's like a impedance yeah there's an impedance right so that back pressure that sound gets push back
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down the throat it helps to calm the body down because that energy needs somewhere to go that's why you've done
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that with me at sometimes oh that's funny I didn't know that's what you were doing I'm like oh tricky tricky that's
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how I roll sneaky um but but I mean I insightful and intuitive that's really cool anything else before we I would I
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would definitely say like even at the beginning of my sound healing classes I always remind people that you know if we do vocal tone which we do um be kind to
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yourself because the sounds that come out of your mouth aren't designed to sound good right now when we're trying to feel better right of course it's
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great when we sound amazing like you know the next big pop star what have you but the intention is to feel better so
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knowing that we're making sounds that are just for ourselves for our self-care being kind whatever comes out of your
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mouth trust that what's coming out of your mouth is actually good for you you don't have to know what you're doing just the intention has to be strong um
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and then bring some awareness like we did bring some awareness to what that sound is doing for your body where is it
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going can you move it to places that you might need it so powerful the mind is so powerful be playful with it right I
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always remind people like you know when we were four or 5 years old in classroom and the teacher goes how many of you guys can dance everyone's everyone can
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dance and everyone starts sing how Can draw we think we can do everything because we can right and as adults it
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kind of we learn it we learn that we can't like what well we get rejected and shamed and made fun of and then we start
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doubting ourselves but little kids they don't have that we become L playful and experimental and curious and so that's
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really important well and I don't think there's ever a time a couple of my grandkids I mean they're just everything they're doing there's some kind of sound
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coming out of their mouth and I I I remember looking over at my husband recently and I said from the time she wakes up till the time she falls asleep
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she is saying or singing something you know it just doesn't stop so it's really powerful and cool and hopefully she'll
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keep that I know would that be special so what advice would you give our listeners who want to begin to
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incorporate some of these trip uh tricks and tips into their daily activities of living yeah so i' would first notice
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what you are doing already what are you doing that that's self-care and it whether it's in intentional or not bring
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some awareness to that um I I would try for those for those of listeners that are really open to this I would try
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doing some vocal toning maybe get in your car where no one can hear you hold any bowel sound you want ooh e anything
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you want hold it out and then try sliding your voice up and down oo that's one of the things that I do
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with you and to me as a teacher it gives me a vocal image of like what's going on
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oh certain parts of your voice you're almost to see where do we need to go next there's some tension oh there's
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some release oh she's not holding on enough oh she's holding on too much there's too much controlling going on
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there's all these pieces out but you don't have to do that just slide your voice up and down just see what that feels like sing a little bit of
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something find a song that's in your range that you really enjoy um I would
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say definitely the safety piece is important because expression is something that's very personal and
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vulnerable and if you don't take the time to feel say first you might not really participate fully sure it'll be
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like with with a I'm doing what he told me to but it's not that's how I felt when I first started with you I thought
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I cannot believe I'm doing this I mean he's going to hear this and that is just not fair to him that he has to listen to
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what is coming out of my mouth it is so bad but I mean over the years that we've worked together I actually never think
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about that anymore you know you have made it so safe to just you're just so tremendously honor and I mean sometimes
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I'll even say to you like you really could not be more kind and gentle with what's happening right now you know and
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you're so Funny's your story I don't have a definition with your story I just think like it's just sound why attach
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any meaning to it right that's really special and cool I mean that's part of probably what makes I would definitely start with being safe making
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experimenting with your voice don't do anything that hurts you obviously um and and and if you do go into nature just
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notice a little bit more right the tree swing in the wind notice the birds chirping a little bit louder like just
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notice some of that stuff yeah and notice how that feels it's really I mean it sounds basic but it's so true and
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it's so not awake and aware we don't we don't do it so hopefully this brings to people's minds more front and center the
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power that we have around us if we just tune in a little bit more intentionally to what's going on both outside of us
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and inside of us when it comes to sound so absolutely I really appreciate you
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being here I've I've so enjoyed our conversation today and and again just the honor and the tenor with which you
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engage is so lovely I mean he really is such an amazing human um so thank you very much for being here you can learn
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more about him at his website it's a singers connection right the singers connection.com the singers
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connection.com we'll put that in the description below but um until next time I really appreciate your um spending
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some time with us today hopefully you'll put some of these new tips and tricks into play into your own lives and if you
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have any experience with with it and want to share please leave some uh feedback for us in the comments below
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and until we meet again don't forget to lead with love it'll never steer you wrong
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