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Flyers Trade Deadline Preview: Will Briere deal Ristolainen or Tippett? | BSH Podcast
Mar 4, 2026
Ryan Gilbert and Joe DeMarini preview the Philadelphia Flyers trade deadline! They discuss if Danny Briere will finally move Rasmus Ristolainen and where the defenseman could land. The guys also look at other trade options for the Flyers, including Owen Tippett and other depth forwards.
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Hello and welcome to the Broad Street
0:15
Hockey Podcast. I am your host Ryan
0:18
Gilbert. Joining me as always is my
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co-host Joe Dearini.
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Joe, it's been been a while for since
0:25
it's been uh just us two here. We did
0:26
something last week with uh Steve and
0:28
Jacob. That was a good uh quad box got
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going there, but we have the brush
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hockey podcast back now with the trade
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deadline just less than 72 hours away
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now.
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>> I know we're so close and probably
0:40
nothing's going to happen because Risto
0:42
is having a maintenance day and that
0:45
doesn't bode well.
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>> Yeah, but yes, I I I'm coming in hot on
0:50
that. But before that, of course, make
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We're going to be going live a few times
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this week leading up to the deadline of
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any rumors, anything that happens. So,
1:02
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shout out to our sponsor at FanDuel. Uh
1:08
the Flyers are on a little winning
1:10
streak here, but I don't think the
1:11
playoff odds have increased too much. Uh
1:14
to make the playoffs, the Flyers are
1:15
plus 410. So, I believe that's less than
1:18
a 25% implied probability. But, you
1:21
know, what a little little modest uh
1:22
three-game winning streak now. Got a few
1:25
easy opponents coming up. We we'll see
1:27
what happens here, but ultimately it
1:29
should not really change what they're
1:30
going to do at the trade deadline. Uh
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appreciate all you guys joining us live
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workers pro labor here at uh at Brown
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Street Hockey. Um yeah, so I'm coming in
2:02
hot here like 3 days before the trade
2:04
deadline. I know you just played four
2:06
games in in six days after the Olympic
2:08
break all with travel in between them.
2:10
Not an easy schedule there, but how do
2:13
you have Rasmus Ralinan not at least go
2:15
on the ice for an optional practice?
2:17
Like I know maybe this is Rristtoinan's
2:19
fault because he doesn't want to get
2:21
traded when he signed the extension
2:22
here. He said how he doesn't like he's
2:24
happy he doesn't have to move because no
2:26
one likes moving. But how even if he is
2:29
just taking a maintenance day, why are
2:32
you as a coach who worked in media
2:34
previously saying, "Oh yeah, he's a bit
2:36
banged up. He's a bit banged up." Like
2:38
what is that going to do for for his
2:39
value three days away the trade deal?
2:41
He's looked he's looked great. He's been
2:43
joining the rush. He's been activating.
2:45
He's been, you know, little wraparound
2:47
attempt last night in Toronto. So, he's
2:49
had so many wraparound attempts, like
2:51
one a game since he came back from the
2:53
Olympics.
2:54
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, he he's been he's been
2:56
great and like the Flyers don't have a
2:58
ton to replace him. And we have seen a
3:00
few trades made already. Conor Murphy
3:03
going to Edmonton.
3:05
Um Tyler Myers has been reported to, you
3:08
know, Detroit. Thinking about that one
3:09
there. I think that's the Tyler Myers.
3:11
Um the Brett Kulak Sam Gerard swap for
3:15
Colorado and Pittsburgh happened last
3:16
week. But like wristion and surprisingly
3:20
might be the best right hand defense
3:22
available on the on the market.
3:24
>> Defenseman. I was like our Tony Paneran
3:26
got traded.
3:26
>> Oh yeah. And and you got Rob Robert
3:28
Thomas like who the Sabres are in on now
3:30
apparently. You got Vincent Trochek is
3:32
arguably more important than Rasmus
3:34
Ralin and he probably is. Like you have
3:36
some some big names out there. But on
3:38
the blue line wristalan is one of the
3:41
top guys depending what what trade board
3:43
you look at. And if he's healthy, the
3:46
Flyers have to move him. The Flyers The
3:48
Flyers have to move him.
3:49
>> Yeah. I mean, it does not help having a
3:51
coach who can't seem to keep his own
3:53
foot out of his mouth, but uh I guess
3:55
that's just uh that's what we're going
3:57
to have to live with as Flyers fans for
3:58
the next couple years. Um no, with
4:01
Risto, he is like the highest end of the
4:06
physical rough and tumble defenseman
4:08
available.
4:10
Justin Fox very much like an allrounder.
4:13
He can he can provide a little bit of
4:15
offense. He can provide you some good
4:17
defense. Douggee Hamilton's not going to
4:19
play defense for you, but he's going to
4:21
score a lot of points for you. It's just
4:23
what flavor do you want and what do you
4:25
feel like you need? Um, but they have to
4:30
do it. And it's not even if they had won
4:33
the Capitals game, I might be in a
4:35
little bit of a different position. But
4:37
losing that one in regulation, I'm I've
4:40
pretty much written it off. Like that
4:42
that game was so critical. I don't care
4:46
that you beat up on the Rangers, who are
4:48
the worst in the Eastern Conference in
4:49
overtime, that you beat the Leafs, who
4:51
stink. Uh, beating the Bruins was
4:54
important, but like
4:56
I would have rather lost in regulation
4:59
to the Leafs and beaten the Capitals. It
5:00
would have been way more useful for
5:02
their standings position.
5:04
>> I mean, they're they're they are
5:05
trailing. Boston does have the second
5:06
wild card spot. Like they are four
5:08
points back of Boston right now. Boston
5:10
does have a game in hand, so that's
5:13
something to watch. Yeah, like the
5:14
Flyers, even if they even if they did
5:16
win that Washington game, I don't think
5:18
that changes what you do with wrist
5:20
linen. I feel like wristtoinan has to be
5:23
the guy that you move because like yeah
5:26
maybe maybe if they lost a few games
5:28
maybe they shop Owen Tippet around a
5:30
little more but with wristan I've been
5:32
thinking about it like every deadline so
5:34
far for Briier last year he traded Lton
5:36
for a first round pick year before that
5:38
he traded Shawn Walker for a first round
5:39
pick
5:40
>> you have you have wrist linen as your
5:42
one obvious sellpiece now
5:45
>> to to move that can actually bring back
5:47
something of value and I'm of the belief
5:49
that teams have already come to Danny
5:52
Breier offering a first round pick and
5:54
Danny Bre like all right we we'll we'll
5:56
hold that on the table we'll check back
5:57
on you on Friday and worst case scenario
6:00
they're getting a late first round pick
6:02
from a contender for wrist line and
6:04
maybe taking back a bad contract or what
6:06
>> it's still that pick still has a one at
6:09
the beginning I know when Shawn Walker
6:10
got traded like the the draft pick value
6:14
chart had it chocked as a second round
6:16
pick because um they took on the
6:19
Johansson in contract and I'm like it
6:21
still has a one at the beginning and
6:23
that matters to other teams and it
6:24
mattered when they traded up to get
6:26
Nesbbit. I don't think they would have
6:27
done it for a second round pick. They It
6:30
needed two firsts.
6:31
>> Yeah. And the first round pick, it's on
6:33
Friday night. Everyone's around for it.
6:35
Everyone's excited about it. Like a
6:36
first round pick, pick 32 even has more
6:39
like visual v it's visually better than
6:43
than pick 33. by by by a decent pick
6:45
because you're getting it Friday night
6:47
then you go into the next day like you
6:49
know what it is like so yeah I I think a
6:51
first round pick is probably out there
6:53
for wrist line and sure
6:54
>> I don't know I don't know if the Flyers
6:56
are definitely going to take just a
6:58
first round pick that is what I am
6:59
worried about um I've gone back and
7:02
forth on what you should take for wrist
7:04
line because yeah he's he's not easily
7:07
replaceable on the blue line there but
7:09
like teams have been checking in on him
7:11
the Sabres checking in Canadians The
7:14
Stars seem like a potential fit with
7:15
their finished guys, but they don't want
7:17
anyone,
7:18
>> but they don't want any anyone with Turm
7:20
the Ducks. I mean, Detroit maybe if they
7:22
don't get Tyler Meyers. Um maybe
7:25
Edmonton still does add another
7:27
defenseman and takes Risan. Like there's
7:30
a lot of teams out there that want Risto
7:33
and he's healthy. Like I'm not trading
7:36
him for a second. I said that back in
7:37
January. I would just move him for
7:39
whatever. But I think if you get a first
7:41
for him, you kind of have to take it
7:43
because then you can use that first to
7:44
either draft, trade up, or trade it for
7:48
a center.
7:49
>> So
7:51
much of the reporting around this
7:53
deadline is that it's a buyer market,
7:55
which does not work in the Flyers favor.
7:57
Like this, the teams that are shopping
8:00
for rentals and deadline ads, there's a
8:03
lot of players on the market with
8:05
similar
8:06
ceilings.
8:07
there similar like they'll have a
8:10
similar impact on the roster once they
8:11
join their new team and that doesn't
8:14
tend to juice the value of a Rasmus
8:17
wristan.
8:19
>> Um the other thing that we've seen from
8:22
Briier is that he will not trade a
8:24
player until his price is met. Shawn
8:26
Walker's price was a first round pick. I
8:29
want that first rounder. We'll we'll
8:32
make it work some other way. and they
8:33
took on the Johansson contract to get
8:35
the first.
8:36
>> Um, with Lton, they held out. He waited.
8:41
He waited another year. He got a first
8:42
in Nikita Grabben. If they don't trade
8:45
Risto this year and they come out and
8:47
say, "Our price wasn't met. We didn't
8:49
want to move him for less than we had
8:50
set his value at." I'm inclined to
8:53
believe them. I'm not going to if they
8:55
say, "Look, the market wasn't there. We
8:57
weren't getting the return that we
8:58
wanted. We decided
9:00
>> we're not gonna we're not going to trade
9:01
him right now." And I I get it. I would
9:04
understand that. I would get it. But the
9:06
injury risk that wristan imposes to this
9:08
team is like, do you take the risk that
9:11
he'll be healthy this summer or next
9:14
deadline and you will get your ask or do
9:18
you risk him getting injured again and
9:20
selling him, not being able to sell him
9:22
at all?
9:24
>> Yeah, you have to you have to hold tight
9:25
on your ask. Like like it's not a JVR
9:27
situation. and it's not a pending free
9:29
agent where you're clearly out of it and
9:31
you got to move them for for whatever
9:33
you can get it. Like if they if they if
9:35
they beat Utah Thursday and Boston plays
9:38
Pittsburgh tonight, they play Nashville
9:40
Thursday. Like if Boston loses both of
9:41
those games and the Flyers beat Utah on
9:44
Thursday, I could see Brea being like,
9:46
"All right, Kknne said like Kknney is
9:48
frustrated. He wants to win that he
9:50
wants us to add. Let's keep Risto as our
9:52
own rental. We're getting Martone later
9:55
this uh later this season hopefully."
9:56
He's not He's not even a good
9:58
>> He's not even a No. Exactly. Keeping him
10:01
another year.
10:02
>> No. And we've talked about this for
10:04
months now. It's like maybe the off
10:05
season is the best time to trade wrist
10:07
alignment because then you have
10:09
everybody, you know, they're going to
10:11
another another cap situation, more
10:12
roster flexibility. They're not going to
10:14
worry about messing up the chemistry in
10:16
the room, on the ice, whatever.
10:18
>> But also like this is you get two
10:21
chances at the playoffs with Risto and
10:24
the East is wide open. like it's the
10:26
lightning head and shoulders above
10:28
everybody else. And then the West, you
10:30
got Colorado, you got Dallas, you got
10:33
Minnesota. They're all battling for it.
10:35
Anaheim's leading the Pacific now. Vegas
10:37
is in second. Edmonton's on the cusp of
10:39
the playoffs. Like there's there's a
10:41
there's a arms race in the West. In the
10:44
East, I don't know if the Flyers would
10:46
trade Risto to a Metropolitan team, but
10:49
like if you catch the Lightning on a bad
10:51
week or two, the East is wide open for
10:54
anybody if the Lightning [ __ ] the bed.
10:55
Like, so
10:57
>> teams teams need to to go for it. And
10:59
like teams like Dallas, yeah, they don't
11:01
want term because they have to figure
11:02
out what to do with Robertson, but
11:04
there's only so there's only so many
11:06
cracks at the cup these teams are going
11:08
to get. And if you can have Rasmus
11:10
Alignan instead of Ilia Labouchkin on
11:13
your second or third pair, maybe that's
11:15
something you do.
11:16
>> I think there's also um there's merit to
11:20
waiting for later in the week. Today's
11:22
Tuesday, the deadline's coming up on
11:24
Friday. If you pull the trigger on Risto
11:27
now because your ask has been met,
11:30
that's cool. But if it's Friday 2:45
11:34
p.m. and nothing is left on the market
11:36
and a team is like, "We got to add
11:38
something or we're going to we're going
11:40
to get rad over the coals or we missed
11:42
out on other players that we wanted. We
11:44
got to do something." GMs get desperate
11:47
and make stupid stupid moves. Um so,
11:52
you know, maybe maybe Risto is banged up
11:54
today, but the Flyers play again on th.
11:58
Yeah.
11:59
>> Oh, they've got a couple days off. Yeah.
12:00
Um, maybe you run Risto out, he plays
12:03
well again. And then Friday morning GMs
12:05
are like, "Well, we missed out on Justin
12:07
Faulk. We missed out on Douggee
12:08
Hamilton. Luke Shen is a non-factor."
12:11
Uh, you know, so they they come calling
12:14
and say, "Danny, we'll we'll we'll we'll
12:16
take Risto." And Danny's like, "Price
12:18
gone up. Price gone up because I know
12:20
there's nobody else available."
12:21
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, like you're not
12:23
going to see many trades early on unless
12:25
teams are trying to get ahead of it.
12:26
like it's just every every every year
12:29
it's like all right something is
12:30
something something going to happen this
12:31
week. No, it goes till Friday or it ends
12:33
up just no nothing being traded and
12:36
nothing exciting happening. But yeah,
12:37
you mentioned the other defenseman out
12:38
there. I think Risto is kind of a a much
12:42
better version of Luke Shen. Luke Shen
12:44
is obviously cheaper, is more just third
12:46
pair ceiling kind of number seven guy.
12:50
>> He has he has the experience. Um Douggee
12:53
Hamilton can help on the power play a
12:55
bit more than Risto can. Uh same with
12:57
Justin Faulk. They're both a bit more
12:59
offensive there. But yeah, Rristtoan
13:01
that Olympic performance was was great.
13:04
He had a few great shifts since
13:07
returning there. So
13:08
>> his capit is his capit's more reasonable
13:11
than Hamilton and Faulk as well. Like
13:14
Faulk is 6.5 through next season and has
13:16
a partial NTC. Douggee Hamilton has a 10
13:20
team trade list. I think he has is like
13:23
these are the 10 teams I will go to. Um
13:26
and his contract runs for two more
13:28
seasons at 9 million. The Devils aren't
13:30
going to retain on that deal. They they
13:32
are trying to add. Um and then with
13:34
Faulk, sure the Blues could retain, but
13:38
you've still got a defenseman who has a
13:41
trade protections on their contract.
13:42
Like there's there's advantages to
13:45
getting Risto. He's a little cheaper. no
13:48
trade protections and a different
13:50
different style of player, different
13:52
flavor.
13:53
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, his we talked about
13:55
it. His contract has gone from a
13:56
liability to an asset with with the
13:58
capital like Yeah. 5.1 million
14:01
>> for for a second pair guy. Like that's
14:04
that's Yeah, that that's uh it's a it's
14:05
a fair deal. One more year on it. Only
14:07
31. Like he's he's still gonna
14:10
>> have that value next season as long as
14:12
he's healthy. Like that that's always
14:13
the big question mark with Risto. And
14:15
he's healthy. He's playing well. I I
14:17
think the Flyers have to capitalize on
14:19
that with a first round pick. I I would
14:21
like I would like to see a roster player
14:23
back with it. Ideally, a defenseman that
14:25
can play third pair instead of uh Noah
14:29
Jules. You have you go you go, you know,
14:32
York Sanheim, Dale, Andre, and then
14:35
Seer, whoever, like whoever they bring
14:38
in. But we'll see what happens there.
14:40
Nick Cer also left last game, last
14:42
night's game. Third period, did not did
14:44
not practice. He's a game time decision.
14:46
Travis Kknney missed Monday's game. He's
14:48
also a game time decision. So like if
14:50
those guys like if Kenkne's out for a
14:52
few more games like there's almost no
14:55
point in not just selling everything.
14:57
>> Well, I I I will say credit to the
14:59
Flyers. They were missing their best
15:01
offensive producer against the Leafs and
15:03
they still got it done.
15:05
>> Yeah,
15:05
>> that's that's not nothing. Um, I just go
15:09
back to in the first couple months of
15:12
the season when TK and Mechov were not
15:14
they were not playing well, right? Like
15:16
TK couldn't score, Meechov was sluggish
15:19
and not creating, but the the team kept
15:22
winning and we said, imagine this team
15:26
if they were playing this well and then
15:27
Meechov and Kknney also figured it out.
15:31
>> Mhm. January happened, nobody figured it
15:34
out, but maybe down the stretch
15:37
everyone's going to be on the same page
15:38
and is able to click through it. I don't
15:40
think trading Risto nukes your playoff
15:42
chances anymore than like keeping him. I
15:47
I think it's basically a wash.
15:49
>> Yeah, it it it it honestly comes down to
15:51
goending. I was I was thinking about it
15:53
like that long losing streak they had.
15:55
If Dan Vidar was healthy during that
15:56
streak, they'd probably get a win. They
15:58
probably beat the Rangers where Kolasov
16:00
had to start. they probably maybe get a
16:02
point somewhere else and that's the
16:03
difference. Like if if they win two
16:04
games instead of losing two games,
16:06
they're tied for a playoff spot right
16:07
now. So it comes down to Var. He's been
16:09
amazing since coming back from the
16:11
Olympics, stealing stealing a few points
16:13
there.
16:14
>> Uh and probably each of the wins that he
16:16
had.
16:17
>> Um yeah, and like we're saying the
16:19
Flyers have to trade Risto, but I'm not
16:22
going to be overly angry, I don't think,
16:24
if they don't because you still got the
16:27
off season.
16:28
you don't really have anyone to replace
16:30
him right now in the uh in on the blue
16:34
line. So, he wants to be here like if
16:38
it's just it's just a health is is a
16:40
huge question mark that you can't
16:41
>> you can't rely on
16:45
and Joe is frozen. So, yeah, Risto there
16:49
um also on the blue line, you know, Nick
16:51
Cer is hurt right now. I would love to
16:53
see him move. Teams might have some
16:55
value uh value him a little bit. Emil
16:57
Andre could be another guy the Flyers
16:59
look to move. He seems to be the odd man
17:02
out. But yeah, Risto is the clear guy,
17:05
clear number one guy that the Flyers
17:06
should be uh looking to move.
17:08
>> Yeah. Also, um I just looked it up when
17:12
Risto was injured in the 31 games. Uh
17:15
the Flyers were 169 and six. And then
17:18
when he came back on uh hold on, hockey
17:21
reference is uh acting up on me. He came
17:24
back on December 16th. That was his
17:26
first game back in the lineup. And since
17:28
then, the Flyers have gone da da da. In
17:32
29 games, 1212 and five. So, they were a
17:34
better team without him even in the
17:36
lineup. Which means like, hey, if you
17:38
trade him, Noah Jules isn't anybody's
17:41
idea of like a great defenseman, but
17:43
like Flyers seem to do all right to get
17:46
by just fine without risking.
17:47
>> No, no. I I I I can't deal watching
17:49
watching more. Yeah, the Flyers right
17:51
now are through 60 games. So if we break
17:53
it down, break the season down into 20
17:55
game chunks. After 20 games, they were
17:57
116 and three. That was the home win
18:00
against the Devils before going on the
18:02
road there before around uh
18:04
Thanksgiving. And then game 40 was the
18:06
5-2 win at Edmonton right before the uh
18:10
win against the Ducks before it all hell
18:12
it all went to hell there with a
18:14
six-game losing streak. And now game 60.
18:16
They're 28 21 and 11. Kind of back on
18:19
track with with Damlar here. got some
18:21
winnable games coming up. Like this is
18:23
still a there's still a quarter of the
18:25
season left. Like this isn't completely
18:27
a team that should be uh written off.
18:30
But yeah, it it does depend at the trade
18:33
deadline. Uh also got to bring up uh
18:35
Flyers making the big trade for Boris
18:36
Kachuk there. I wonder if some people
18:38
thought well that was one of the
18:39
Kachchuck brothers the Flyers traded
18:41
for. But uh shout out Mattie Campbell.
18:43
She wrote something good on broadstreet
18:45
hockey.com on what he should bring to
18:47
the Flyers. He's, you know, 27, former
18:49
uh former second round pick, so has a
18:52
lot of experience in the AHL and NHL.
18:54
Should help the Phantoms out for their
18:56
for their stretch run and, you know,
18:57
could be called up for for some size if
18:59
the Flyers need it.
19:00
>> I mean, if they trade like Carl
19:02
Grundstrom or they trade, you know,
19:04
Garnet Hathaway or Nick Deloreier or
19:05
something. Um, another thing we were
19:09
talking about this throughout the season
19:11
that because the East was so close,
19:14
we weren't going to know who was a
19:18
contender and who was a pretender until
19:19
much later because nobody was willing to
19:22
sell in the middle of the season and
19:25
nobody was buying because they weren't
19:26
sure if their team was for real or not.
19:30
Now, we're coming up to the trade
19:32
deadline. Some of these teams might be
19:34
selling and they're going to fall off
19:36
like the Blue Jackets, maybe the
19:38
Senators, maybe, you know, a couple of
19:40
other teams in front of the Flyers in
19:42
the standings. They might sell off and
19:45
uh that would that would open up a
19:47
window for the Flyers to take advantage.
19:50
>> Yeah. And I know I know it's just
19:51
continued purgatory and and fans like
19:54
even optimistic fans want them to to
19:56
lose games and get a better draft pick
19:57
at this point. I I want playoff hockey.
19:59
I I want fun hockey. I want competitive
20:01
games into into spring and into April
20:04
there. That's all I want. I don't want
20:05
another last month and a half of the
20:08
season just, you know, seeing what
20:10
happens there. Uh but yeah, we mentioned
20:12
Matt Vichkov a little bit before. He's
20:14
looked great since coming back from the
20:16
Olympics. Ob obviously the goals are
20:17
good. The shootout goal against Anthony
20:19
Stolars was great there as well, but
20:21
like he he just looks better. He looks
20:23
more confident. He looks up on his
20:25
skates. He's not like all hunched over
20:27
skating around. He's up on his skates.
20:29
He's calling for pucks. He looks a lot
20:31
better, a lot more confident and has
20:32
earned some overtime uh shifts there
20:35
despite, you know, maybe maybe didn't
20:37
make the best decisions in overtime
20:39
there with a few a few of those plays.
20:41
But uh he earned Tac's trust after the
20:43
uh overtime winner. So yeah, Mitchkov is
20:46
looking better. Still on the third line.
20:47
You know, no Kates had a good game on
20:49
Monday night, but uh hopefully yeah, if
20:51
Mitchkov gets going, Zegris is is is
20:54
still going here. if they get connected
20:55
back uh they keep Tippet like this is a
20:58
team that you know in a bad east like
21:01
like they have a good week and they're
21:02
right back in it.
21:03
>> I think it was notable uh in the game
21:05
last night that uh you know he had those
21:07
turnovers in overtime
21:10
but who gets the first go in the
21:12
shootout
21:13
>> Mhm.
21:14
>> at Vichkov. I don't know if that was
21:17
because usually it's Zerris. I think all
21:19
season Ziggress has been the first one
21:20
out. Maybe Coots or TK got one once
21:23
because Couturier has that weird I'm
21:26
going to turn my back to you and then
21:28
spin it around and put it in the net
21:30
trick.
21:31
>> Um,
21:32
>> but it's usually Zas first and then
21:34
Mechov or TK. So to send him out first
21:37
even after those turnovers it it to me
21:39
on the outside it's like kid you screwed
21:41
that up but guess what? We're here go
21:43
out and do the thing that I know you can
21:45
do and
21:46
>> he did it.
21:47
>> Yeah. I like him going first two because
21:49
like all right go out there do your
21:50
thing don't don't worry about what
21:51
Ziggris just did if he scored or didn't
21:53
score go out make your move and then we
21:56
have Ziggress right after we can go up
21:58
two nothing if you score and that's what
21:59
happened
21:59
>> and he and Ziggris ripped that that shot
22:03
was so fun just
22:05
>> that was that was amazing
22:06
>> a laser
22:08
>> yeah so Risto is the obvious piece that
22:11
the Flyers have to sell but who do you
22:13
think is the second most likely to be
22:16
moved is it Tippet Is it Hathaway? Nic
22:19
Deloreier popped up on a trade board. Is
22:21
it someone we're not even considering?
22:23
>> How spicy how spicy you
22:26
>> I mean I mean don't don't do too big of
22:28
a stretch. I'm kind of asking the
22:29
serious question, but like who do you
22:31
think is the second most likely player
22:33
behind Risto to get moved?
22:35
>> Oh boy. I mean Tippet's name has been
22:37
out there the most. So I guess that
22:39
would be number two. But
22:40
>> yeah,
22:40
>> if we're getting spicy with it, Jamie
22:42
Dale since he's a pending RFA. Although
22:45
he's been, man, I have felt so
22:48
vindicated watching him play the last
22:50
week or so. I'm like, Flyers fans,
22:54
they've seen him, they saw his first few
22:56
games in Philadelphia and he was a
22:58
disaster. Like, no, like he was a mess.
23:01
And it's like, well, he's never going to
23:03
be anything more than maybe like a four
23:04
or five power play specialist. And then,
23:07
>> honestly, that's that's probably what he
23:09
is. That that is what he is. I I still
23:12
think there's more because all he has
23:14
done since arriving is just like
23:18
incrementally improve bit by bit by bit
23:20
his game has come around. I think
23:22
there's still more there. Um but you
23:25
know pending anyone who doesn't have a
23:27
contract already signed for next year
23:29
they could be they could be on the block
23:32
but um Dale maybe Brink I don't know if
23:36
Brink alone is enough to be worth
23:38
trading but maybe Risto and Brink
23:41
inflates your return to what you want
23:43
you know something something some combo
23:46
of a package instead of just Risto for X
23:49
Y and Z.
23:50
>> Yeah. Yeah. I Yeah. I uh Dale is an
23:54
interesting name. I think I saw one guy
23:56
say like the senators checked in on him
23:57
or something, but like you said, the
23:59
senators are probably are probably going
24:00
to be the Senators. Yeah, the Senators
24:02
are probably going to be selling anyway.
24:04
>> Why?
24:05
>> Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Jordan
24:09
>> Jordan Spence cannot get minutes for the
24:11
Ottawa Senators and they're checking in
24:13
on Jamie Dale who's probably a worse
24:16
Jordan Spence. Like that is the stu that
24:19
is the goofiest thing I would have ever
24:23
imagined happening and if you know if
24:27
the Flyers are trying to acquire they
24:28
should go after Jordan Spence because
24:30
the Senators traded for that guy and
24:32
then never play him.
24:34
>> Yeah. Yeah. Bruce Bruce Bruce Gary or
24:36
whatever name from the Ottawa Citizen
24:38
said another name that could be on the
24:40
radar screen for teams looking for a
24:41
right shot blue liner is Jimmy Ddale the
24:43
Flyers. Like I don't think he has a good
24:45
track record. not saying he's not
24:46
connecting him to Ottawa, but that's why
24:48
I thought it was Ottawa. Um I think Tip
24:51
Tippet has to be the the second one. I
24:54
think Risto is probably around 50/50 if
24:57
not higher than 50/50 to be traded. I
24:59
think Tippet it's it's down from that
25:01
maybe like 25% maybe maybe a third maybe
25:04
33%. Because he does have a team
25:06
friendly contract. He's been in these
25:09
rumors. Boston checked in on him. I like
25:12
uh Matthew Patra up up there in Boston.
25:14
Uh um Seattle could maybe use him, Shane
25:17
Wright as the part of a package for Owen
25:20
Tippet. Maybe Minnesota if they're
25:23
looking for a scoring winner winger and
25:25
want to you know not get that crink
25:26
thing there. But Tippet is interesting
25:29
because like Tippet wouldn't be
25:31
necessarily selling like you're going to
25:33
get back probably a center like that is
25:36
what I would trade Tippet for is trade
25:38
tip trade Tippet for
25:40
>> a younger center and another pick. Would
25:44
you
25:45
I don't think this would work out
25:47
because it doesn't fit with the what the
25:49
Wild need. Yesper Walstead is apparently
25:53
available for the right price from the
25:55
wild. Yeah.
25:56
>> Would you consider trading Tippet and
25:58
the main return is a like a young stud
26:02
net minder like a wall because then you
26:04
can keep Vladar for another two or three
26:08
years. um Zra and Bjnison have time to
26:11
develop and you have Walstead there to
26:13
step up as well. Like would you would
26:15
you consider a high-end young goalie
26:17
instead of a center or defenseman?
26:19
>> Absolutely. I mean, you read my mind. I
26:21
was going to bring up Walstead from
26:22
Minnesota. They have they have they have
26:23
Gustiffson. They have a good a good
26:25
tandem there, but if you can get Yeah.
26:27
>> Walstead, I don't know if they would
26:28
trade him for Tippet. I don't know what
26:30
type of return they'd be looking for for
26:33
Wallstead, but yeah, Wallstead
26:35
Pro. Yeah. uh 23 years old, turns 24 in
26:40
uh November, 911 save percentage in 25
26:43
NHL games this season. Uh yeah, he's
26:46
been great for for Minnesota. He had had
26:48
that stretch of uh shutouts earlier this
26:51
season. Yeah,
26:52
>> I think you get him like you said. Yeah,
26:53
pair him with Lar then you let Lar walk
26:56
in a few years. Then you go Wstead and
26:58
either Bonner centers or Dragon and you
27:01
have a few young goalies that hopefully
27:03
one of them pans out to at least be a 1A
27:06
if not a starter. Like I I would I would
27:10
easily trade for Walstead or like
27:12
Minnesota has the uh the Russian center
27:15
that I want. I don't think I don't think
27:16
they're going to trade Eurovv though.
27:18
like he's he he played with Grabbankin
27:20
in the KHL. Like having him and Mech
27:22
Golf together would be great, but I
27:24
don't see them moving him unless it's
27:26
for like a troche or a legit one or two
27:30
C.
27:31
>> But yeah, the Wild are an interesting
27:33
team because the Flyers have had talks
27:35
with them about Matt Baldi before.
27:38
>> Apparently Bobby Brink and Ryan Hartman
27:40
have been rumored as well. Ryan Hartman
27:42
I wouldn't mind taking back four million
27:45
uh for another year. They're looking to
27:47
shed some cap, so maybe you get him on
27:49
the cheap. But like, he's just another
27:51
D'vorak, just another Cage, just another
27:53
Couttori. Like, he's a a good two-way
27:55
guy, which is fine. Like, if you can get
27:56
another solid two-way center and you you
27:59
can in improve your wingers, that that's
28:01
fine by me.
28:02
>> Bring him home. Uh, I think also the
28:05
Wild were in on Goautier when um
28:08
>> talks were happening. I don't I don't
28:10
know if it ever came out what was
28:12
offered um for Goautier, but I do I do
28:16
remember seeing reports that they were
28:18
one of the teams that was interested. Um
28:21
so I like a trade between the Flyers and
28:24
the Wild is not out of out of the realm
28:27
of possibility, right? Like they they
28:29
seem like teams that are willing to talk
28:30
to each other.
28:32
>> Yeah. Uh the Bruins that we mentioned
28:33
have have been in on Tippet. Um the
28:36
Wild. Yeah. And then there was another
28:37
one I just saw. Sabres. I could see I
28:40
could see uh Owen Tippet in Buffalo
28:41
there. Um I was
28:44
>> I was I was tossing around the idea of
28:46
of trading for Josh Norris, but he's
28:49
injured a lot. 7.9 million till 2030.
28:52
He's playing 3C in Buffalo, so maybe
28:54
he's a guy with I think he has 1C upside
28:57
if he stays healthy, but I don't know if
29:00
I don't know if I would trade
29:01
>> Tippet in the package for him. Maybe. I
29:04
don't know. I don't think you can get
29:05
him for Risto, but like
29:07
>> I mean it could.
29:09
>> Yeah,
29:10
>> he's he's just he he's too hurt. He's
29:13
too injuryprone. I don't know if that
29:15
would be necessarily a good move, but
29:17
like Buffalo has
29:19
>> We had this discussion at last trade
29:21
deadline. I think we talked about Josh
29:23
Norris out of Ottawa.
29:24
>> Probably.
29:24
>> Or maybe maybe it was Dylan Cousins. I
29:26
think we were looking at both of them
29:28
and we're like for one of them and then
29:30
they
29:31
>> swapped them for each other. I if if the
29:34
Flyers do trade Risto to Buffalo, which
29:36
would just be the funniest possibility,
29:39
if Isaac Rosen is the return, I am going
29:44
to lose it because Isaac Rosen is the
29:46
player that the Sabres drafted the
29:48
Flyers first round pick that they traded
29:50
for Rasmusan. So, it would basically be
29:53
undoing that trade in one fell swoop,
29:55
which would I like what could be funnier
29:59
than that, man?
30:00
>> That that would be that would be close
30:01
and close. He's he's a winger though, I
30:03
think. Right. Yeah, he's a he's a
30:04
winger. It's not
30:05
>> necessarily that good.
30:07
>> I don't think he's that good, but
30:08
>> he's it would be fun. It would be funny
30:10
if he was a part of the return. But
30:12
yeah, I I feel like Tippet fills the
30:14
hole that JJ Purka left. Like they made
30:16
a good trade. They got Josh Don. He's
30:18
been good. Castle Ranga has been good as
30:20
well. But like
30:21
>> Purka was a legit top six winger. And I
30:23
don't know if Don is that quite yet. So
30:25
if they get if they want they want
30:27
tippet if they want to give us you know
30:29
bow and bum I want power. Uh Matias
30:31
Samson is playing topline top pair of
30:33
minutes. I don't know if you can get him
30:35
anymore bring him home uh possibly. But
30:38
like the Sabres have some pieces that
30:40
would be interesting for the Flyers. Uh
30:43
I don't know if Ryan Mloud is a guy I
30:45
would want, but he's a a youngish center
30:47
that could maybe maybe fit. He's just
30:50
another middle middle six center that
30:52
you know you don't necessarily pine or
30:55
and you wouldn't be excited about.
30:57
>> He's a younger Christian D'vorak.
30:59
>> Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much pretty much
31:01
>> basically what he is.
31:02
>> Yeah. If you didn't extend D'vorak uh
31:05
what is Mloud has 42 points in 60 games
31:08
but this year 53 points in 79 games the
31:10
year before last year. So, um, yeah, not
31:13
not not a good target there. But, uh,
31:16
yeah, Tippet, I I don't I don't know if
31:19
they're going to trade him. I don't I
31:20
don't think they're going to trade him
31:21
at the deadline. Um, would you do would
31:24
you do Owen Tippet for Shane Wright as
31:26
the main parts of a package?
31:30
>> I don't think so. I like I
31:35
don't think I would. I mean, if Matty
31:38
Baneer I we've talked about this. If
31:39
Matty Beneers was on the table, I'd
31:41
probably start moving quite a quite a
31:44
few assets to make that happen. But I
31:47
don't think I'm as high on Shane Wright.
31:49
>> No, Shane Wright hasn't quite been what
31:52
he was projected to to be. Last year, 44
31:55
points. This year, 23 points, which
31:57
which projects out to 31 points there.
31:59
there. I know he's not playing with
32:00
great wingers, but like Shane Wright, I
32:03
I he's just a name that's out there that
32:05
is a good young center that might, you
32:07
know, change the scenery, help the
32:09
Flyers. I think that's more of like a
32:10
Brink Brink type of type of return.
32:13
>> I don't think Brink would get you a
32:15
fourth overall pick for
32:16
>> Well, I mean, Brink Brink Brink Plus.
32:18
Yeah.
32:20
>> Um I also I do think it's noteworthy. If
32:23
I'm remembering correctly, Shane
32:25
Wright's development kind of went the
32:27
same way as Jet Luchenko's where they
32:29
like they kept him on the team because
32:32
they could only send him back to the
32:34
CHL, but he'd already dominated there,
32:36
but he was too young to go to the AHL.
32:38
So,
32:39
>> they kept him around for a while and
32:41
then he got sent back and then he was
32:43
good and then like got yo-yoed all over
32:45
the place. So,
32:46
>> yep, he did. Yeah. 2022 23 eight games
32:49
with Seattle, eight games with
32:51
Coachella, 20 games with Windsor, and
32:53
seven games at the World Juniors. So,
32:55
pretty much just like Luchenko getting
32:57
getting yo-yoed back and forth and and
32:59
that uh hasn't fared well for Shane
33:01
Wright so far.
33:03
>> No. So, you know, I
33:06
if the price is right, I'd get Shane
33:08
Wright, but I'm not going to give up
33:09
Tippet for that. Tippet's too valuable.
33:11
I I don't think Flyers fans appreciate
33:13
how good Tippet is. He's our Jordan Kyu.
33:16
like he's he's a Flyers fans Jordan Kyu
33:19
where it's like we would love to be
33:20
complaining about Jordan Kyru if he was
33:22
on our team but we're stuck with this
33:24
Owen Tippet guy and I feel like a lot of
33:25
other team a lot of other fans on other
33:27
teams would be like man I wish we were
33:29
able to complain about having Owen
33:30
Tippet you know that kind of thing
33:33
>> yeah I don't know Owen Tippet has those
33:35
games where like oh wowen Tippet what a
33:37
great player he can he can change the
33:38
game he can win a few games for you then
33:40
he has stretches like he like he has um
33:43
right now he has one goal in his past 10
33:46
games since that hattick at college.
33:48
>> Really?
33:49
>> Yeah.
33:50
>> That goal was um against Washington, the
33:53
opening goal. I forget
33:55
>> what that one looked like, but um
33:58
>> yeah, first goal against Washington
34:00
there. Um oh, before before the break,
34:03
the home game against Washington. Uh oh,
34:05
no, that the the nice passing play that
34:07
got him in front and went did the
34:08
backhand there. He only has uh one goal
34:11
and two assists since that four-point
34:13
game against Colorado, which yeah, that
34:15
that's that's what Owen Tippet is like.
34:18
And I don't want to trade Owen Tippet
34:20
somewhere where he's going to go and and
34:23
pop off. Like Colorado, he'd fit well in
34:25
that offense. I think Minnesota he would
34:27
fit in there well there too. But like if
34:30
you're dealing him or Boston, I would
34:31
hate to see him go to Boston and help
34:33
him help Boston, you know, win win their
34:36
next cup somehow. Like Seattle,
34:38
Seattle's fine. Like what's going to
34:41
happen there?
34:42
>> I still don't think Minnesota is like
34:44
really going to win the cup. Like I
34:45
don't think they're a legit contender.
34:47
But like
34:47
>> really
34:48
>> Buffalo I don't think Buffalo's a legit
34:50
contender. Like
34:51
>> what why what do why uh why are you so
34:54
low on Minnesota?
34:55
>> It's just the vibes the Wild give off to
34:57
me. They're they're an expand they're
34:59
expansive franchise. They haven't won it
35:00
before. I don't know if they've even
35:01
made the Stanley Cup final before.
35:03
They're just they're just kind of one of
35:05
the like they're they're a good regular
35:06
season team. They're a good team. I like
35:07
them. But and they're going I mean maybe
35:10
Quinn Hughes, Capri's off, Matt Baldy.
35:12
Maybe they can finally get there. But um
35:14
>> the Minnesota mild is what they are.
35:17
>> Yes, they are.
35:17
>> Minnesota.
35:18
>> Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um speaking
35:21
of Minnesota, like I've been because I
35:23
think Minnesota could be an interesting
35:25
trade partner for the Flyers. I was
35:27
thinking like
35:28
>> Noah Kates is from Minnesota. Bobby
35:30
Brink from Minnesota. Noah Kates is a
35:32
guy that I could see the Flyers moving
35:35
and selling high on. I think I brought
35:36
this up last week with you, Steve, and
35:39
Jacob. Like, he has a he's a he's a
35:42
great two-way center, great shutdown
35:43
center. Can play third line. You need a
35:45
third line in the playoffs.
35:47
>> Uh capit is what, four million for the
35:50
next uh three three years after this
35:53
one.
35:54
>> You have D'vorak now. You have Ctori.
35:56
He's gonna be a bottom six center.
35:58
you're going to want to bring in a top
36:00
six center. Like, do you need D'vorak,
36:02
Couttoriier, and Kates? And Kate is 27.
36:05
He is what he is. He's never going to be
36:07
a great offensive guy. Like, you trade
36:09
Kates and Brink to Minnesota together
36:12
for like a Hartman and a young guy to
36:15
help out with some some cap space a
36:17
little bit, but I I
36:20
>> like Hartman's not the main return. The
36:22
young guy is the main return. either
36:23
either you're off or you can somehow get
36:25
get Wallstead in in that package if you
36:27
include Tippet or something like but
36:29
Minnesota's cap space um does not make
36:32
that um too reasonable at the time right
36:35
now.
36:36
>> No. Um
36:38
no, I don't think
36:41
I feel like we've had this discussion
36:42
before. Other teams don't view Kates as
36:45
highly as we do. Like I I feel like the
36:47
league doesn't really recognize him in
36:49
the way that we do. Also, he sucks at
36:51
faceoffs. He sucks at faceoffs. He's
36:55
almost as bad as Zegris.
36:57
>> Yeah, he's not good. He's not good at
36:58
faceoffs. That is That is a problem. If
37:01
>> If you're gonna be a two-way center, you
37:03
kind of need to be good at faceoffs. And
37:05
he just for some reason doesn't I don't
37:08
get it. I don't get it. His game seems
37:10
so He's so detailed. You would think he
37:14
would be good at faceoffs, but I just
37:16
can't get it. It's weird. It's so weird.
37:19
It's on that uh they'll probably do an
37:21
episode of uh Unexplained Mysteries or
37:23
whatever that TV show on Sci-Fi was from
37:26
back in the day.
37:27
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, Kate's probably not
37:29
going to I think I I want the Flowers
37:31
trade Hathaway. I want the Flyers to
37:33
move Haway to a team that needs a needs
37:35
a veteran presence.
37:37
>> Get like a third round pick. Maybe get a
37:40
similar player that can play center
37:42
that's younger that is kind of like the
37:44
odd man out there. But I think Haway
37:47
needs needs a change of scenery too for
37:49
himself to uh to get going again.
37:53
>> I don't think anyone's trading for
37:55
Garnet Hathaway. I don't care about
37:57
>> You think so?
37:58
>> I would be shocked, especially with that
38:00
contract. Look, the Flyers are in a bit
38:03
of a weird jam at this deadline because
38:05
they only have one retention slot. It's
38:07
the last year of retention for the Haze
38:09
contract and the Lton deal. So, if
38:11
they're going to trade one of Hathaway
38:12
or Risto, um I I feel like both of those
38:16
would require retention, you can't do
38:19
both. You got to pick one. Like, if you
38:21
could retain on
38:23
>> if you could retain on Hathaway 50% get
38:26
a third round or third round pick, would
38:28
you rather do that or would you rather
38:29
retain on Risto and get better better
38:31
assets? I think I'd rather trade
38:35
Hathaway and get a similar, possibly
38:38
slightly worse contract back that can
38:41
help fill out the roster on the back
38:43
end. Trade Risto for whatever and then
38:46
trade Hathaway for like a third pair
38:47
defenseman with a bad contract.
38:49
>> Something like that. If Brier can can
38:52
maneuver that in these next three days.
38:54
>> Okay. I All right. So, not retaining on
38:56
Hathaway, just contract swap and an
38:59
asset like a
39:00
>> Yeah. late.
39:01
>> Yeah. like like you have one retention
39:03
slot. There's no need to waste it on 2.4
39:05
million. Like if you want to retain a
39:07
little bit on wrist linen
39:09
>> maybe um but what do they have? Yeah,
39:12
because next year they have no retain
39:14
salary. They have nothing. So
39:16
>> yeah,
39:17
>> it's just right now it's just this
39:18
deadline where it's a little tight, but
39:20
next year they'll be they'd be fine.
39:22
>> Yeah. So yeah, if you want to retain on
39:24
on ris that would be probably better
39:27
because that would be more beneficial.
39:29
next year. You don't you don't need a
39:31
ton of calf space anyway. And that would
39:33
probably uh increase the return a decent
39:35
bit for for some of these top teams that
39:37
are having a calf crunch.
39:39
>> And to be fair, like 2.55,
39:42
I suppose, would be the 50% retention.
39:45
That's like nothing next year for the
39:47
Flyers. That's that's that's chump
39:49
change. If that's what it takes to get
39:50
you a first round pick and a good
39:52
prospect,
39:53
>> done.
39:54
>> Yeah, easily done there. Uh let's see,
39:57
moving down here. Nick Deloreier somehow
39:59
he was on Nick Nick Ciprios's um trade
40:02
board the day the Flyers the day the
40:04
Flyers were in Toronto though where
40:06
where Ciprios I believe is based so
40:07
perhaps perhaps something was uh you
40:10
know he got some insight there that
40:13
>> some team might want Deloreier like if
40:15
you can move to Laurier you have to do
40:17
it like you
40:18
>> he had a great scoring chance in that
40:20
Leaf game too he was I thought I was
40:23
like man that could have been his final
40:24
career goal if he'd uh if he'd put that
40:27
one And um
40:28
>> yeah,
40:29
>> he he knew I think like you're in the
40:32
center of the hockey media world in
40:34
Toronto and if you have a good game
40:36
there, people notice. So maybe that'll
40:38
maybe that'll help him out.
40:40
>> Yeah. Speaking of people being up in
40:42
Toronto, uh the Sabres had uh four
40:44
scouts, including one of their uh head
40:47
honchos, I believe, up there in Toronto.
40:50
Chris Johnson tweeted it out. He was
40:51
like, "Oh, you know, it's not a big
40:52
deal. It's an easy drive from Buffalo to
40:54
Toronto." Like it's what? It's like a
40:56
two-hour drive. I think I heard like
40:58
that's pretty much you can go from
41:00
Philly to Rangers, Devils, Islanders.
41:04
>> Pittsburgh kind of uh DC.
41:07
>> Yeah. Like there's like Boston you hop
41:09
on
41:09
>> but
41:11
Pittsburgh is far. Boston you hop on the
41:13
Amtrak up to Boston. Like it's it's
41:16
quick. So like I think there is a point
41:18
of reading into that. Like maybe there
41:20
are going to be risto talks or tippet
41:22
talks with uh with Buffalo.
41:25
>> N it'll it'll be Scott Lton.
41:28
Congratulations Scott. You're a saver
41:30
now.
41:31
>> Maybe maybe he'll fix Buffalo. Maybe
41:34
he'll did well Simmons also played in
41:37
Buffalo for a bit. I don't know if that
41:38
was before or after Toronto. I think it
41:40
was before Toronto. I think it was uh
41:42
2020 I think was the uh deadline where
41:44
the Sabres got uh Wayne Simmons there.
41:49
He b me b me b me b me b me b me b me b
41:49
me b me b mess around a little bit
41:50
probably not good probably probably not
41:51
well it was it was the sabers but
41:54
>> um you think there been anyone like
41:56
really surprising that would be I guess
41:57
we can we can discuss Brink a little bit
41:59
like do you think he's more likely or
42:02
less likely to be moved than Tippet?
42:05
Um,
42:08
Jesus, I don't know, man. Like,
42:13
I'd say less, but I think the if you
42:17
want to get left field, I think the
42:18
biggest change would be trading like Cam
42:21
York or something, but I like the
42:24
chances of that happening are pretty I
42:26
would imagine pretty minute, right? He's
42:28
in the first year of his 5-year
42:30
contract. If the if something crazy like
42:32
that were to happen, the Flyers must
42:35
have gotten like Austin Matthews to wave
42:37
his no trade clause or something like
42:38
it'd be an enormous deal.
42:40
>> Could happen. Could happen. Yeah. Uh
42:42
Ryan Quley, Ryan Quidley ranked the uh
42:44
trade possibilities for every player on
42:46
the Flyers roster earlier today at
42:48
browser.com. Uh he had Bobby Brink, Carl
42:51
Gruncham, Noah Jules, and Owen Tippet in
42:53
the slight possibility
42:55
>> behind uh strong possibility of Rasmus
42:57
wrist linen. Uh Kevin Curts also wrote
43:00
for the athletics uh bold predictions
43:02
thing that they Flyers would trade Bobby
43:04
Brink and Bobby trading Bobby Brink
43:06
would follow what the Flyers have done.
43:09
Like he hasn't been in rumors at all
43:11
been been very tight lipped. Nothing
43:12
around Bobby Brink like I could see them
43:16
pulling off a Brink for Hartman type
43:18
swap. Apparently that was floated
43:20
earlier in the season. Maybe you get
43:21
back something else to to you know
43:24
sweeten that deal a little bit. But I
43:27
don't know. I think Brink I don't know
43:29
how teams value him. I don't I don't
43:31
know where he fits where he fits in the
43:33
future either.
43:34
>> I think I mean the Panthers look like
43:37
they're going to miss the the playoffs.
43:39
Yeah. But I do think a lot of teams are
43:41
still Floridarained. Like they still see
43:45
like a big mean Florida team and they're
43:47
like Bobby Brink really this little guy
43:49
is going to come in and make us a
43:50
playoff contender. But if you've been
43:53
paying attention he's become quite the
43:54
checker. He has become really quite good
43:56
on the forch check. He's He's not going
43:58
to blow dudes up with hits because he's
44:01
5'8, 5'9. But he gets in there. He gets
44:05
He gets his stick in there. He's
44:07
battling for pucks. Like, that's it's
44:10
playoff style hockey, but it doesn't
44:12
look like it because he's not 6'3 and
44:14
just towering over guys on the boards.
44:17
So, I don't know. He's He's got the
44:19
right play style, but I don't know if
44:22
GMs can get past the the height.
44:27
>> Yeah. And I think Brink might be a case
44:29
of we overvalue him compared to teams
44:31
around the league, too. Like like he's
44:34
never going to be a 50point guy. Maybe
44:37
even never like like a 40 point guy
44:39
might be his ceiling. But a good good
44:41
two-way play. Has good playmaker. Maybe
44:44
he can he can get there with uh with
44:46
some more offensive linemates. He is
44:48
only 24 25 over the summer. Uh had 41
44:52
points last year, so he's got there
44:53
before. Already has a career-high 13
44:56
goals this season. Um so I think you
44:59
know he's he's still on the on the up
45:01
and up. Still going to you know peak
45:03
around 45 50 points, but he's not a
45:07
center and and the Flyers have a ton of
45:09
wings, especially right wings. Like you
45:11
trade Brink or you trade Tippet, you can
45:13
move Mitchkop back over to the right. Uh
45:16
you have Martone can play left, you have
45:17
Forester can play left, you have Tippet,
45:19
you have a Kknney on the right. Like you
45:21
have your wingers kind of set and you
45:24
got Brink, you got Barky, you got Bump,
45:25
you got all these other guys like some
45:28
they had to be moved at some point. I
45:30
just don't know if the deadline is when
45:32
to do it.
45:33
>> It it doesn't feel Again, we said it at
45:36
the top. This is being reported as a
45:38
buyer market. You're not going to sell
45:41
your players that are valuable to you
45:42
now at a discount just because you feel
45:46
like you have to. Especially a team in
45:48
the Flyers position, they aren't they
45:50
aren't pressed. They aren't in panic
45:52
mode. There's no reason to just start
45:54
trading dudes because you have to. Um
45:59
like maybe someone in the summer is
46:00
like, "Yeah, Bobby Brink would be a nice
46:02
addition." And they they managed to pull
46:04
it off then. But it it doesn't feel like
46:06
this deadline is going to have a roster
46:10
shaking trade beyond maybe Risto.
46:14
>> Yeah. But like I I do not to be like
46:18
I'll just do something, but like I I do
46:19
want think Danny Breier does need to do
46:21
something at this deadline. Whether it's
46:23
trading Risto, whether it's tra making a
46:25
hockey trade with Tippet or with Brink.
46:28
I've been saying it.
46:30
>> Do you want him to do that if it's a
46:32
clear loss?
46:33
>> Well, no. I don't want to lose a trade,
46:36
>> but like I think if if it if there's a
46:40
risk, if we're looking back in two or
46:43
three years and saying, "Oh, man, that
46:44
was a bad trade." That's fine. You have
46:45
to take risks at times to you, you know,
46:48
you got you got to swing. Not not every
46:49
trade can be can be a hit, but like you
46:51
can't have you can't risk too much. Like
46:55
I feel like Tippet for Shane Wright
46:58
is kind of as far as I would go uh for
47:02
like a risky trade, something like that,
47:04
where you're giving up Owen Tippet, a
47:06
guy that can score 30 goals, can score
47:08
easily 25 in a down year for a former
47:12
top pick who hasn't quite reached that
47:15
potential and you don't know how he's
47:17
going to fit in. But like that's a risk
47:19
you might have to take if you're not
47:21
going to be able to get a first line
47:22
center down the road. I meant more like
47:25
if the only deal available for Risto is
47:28
a second round pick with 50% retention,
47:30
would you rather them just not do that?
47:32
Like I'm saying, would you rather them
47:35
just come out and say the deals didn't
47:37
materialize, we nobody met our ask, the
47:39
value wasn't there, we didn't think it
47:41
was appropriate to make these trades.
47:43
Would you rather them come out and say
47:44
that after doing nothing or make a trade
47:46
where you're like,
47:48
>> "That was sloppy." Like you caved. You
47:50
caved to the other GMs because you felt
47:52
like you had you felt compelled to trade
47:54
Risto line and so you did and caved on
47:57
your ask.
47:57
>> Yeah. No, I I I would not be happy if
47:59
they only get a second for Risto. I uh
48:02
maybe if it's a bad team, it's a high
48:03
second. If it's someone else's second,
48:05
whatever, a second and a and a prospect
48:07
maybe. But like I think you have to get
48:09
a first for him. And if the main
48:11
reasoning if the narrative is the ask
48:13
wasn't there, that's fine. if the
48:15
narrative is more, you know, we got we
48:18
have we have points in four straight
48:19
now. Uh we think we we can have a chance
48:21
to make the playoffs. We want to keep
48:23
Risto uh on this team. Risto didn't want
48:25
to be traded, so we wanted to have a
48:27
crack at the playoffs with him. Is that
48:28
if that is the main narrative, then I'll
48:31
be upset. If the narrative is, you know,
48:34
Luke Shuk got traded, Hamilton got
48:37
traded, Faulk got traded, there were no
48:39
landing spots, there there was no one
48:41
giving up a first round pick, like
48:43
that's fine. But if it's
48:44
>> Yeah. If it's more focused on trying to
48:47
win this season, I think that's going to
48:49
be a misstep and that's going to be very
48:51
bad for for the fans.
48:53
>> I would I would agree. I guess the
48:55
messaging is going to determine it. But
48:57
like we said at the top, um you know, if
49:01
I just completely lost my train of
49:02
thought. Oh, it's been a long day.
49:04
>> Well, I mean, if if if they beat Utah
49:06
and Boston loses one of these next two
49:08
games, like they're they're right back
49:09
in it. Yeah,
49:09
>> they're right back in it.
49:10
>> And and the Okay, I remember what I was
49:12
going to say. The Flyers front office
49:13
has a track record of saying, "Here's
49:15
our ask. We won't move. We won't budge
49:18
on it." And they other teams have
49:20
stepped up and met the ask. So if the
49:22
Flyers do come out and say, "Yeah,
49:23
nobody was giving up what we thought
49:25
Rrista was worth." Like last year, they
49:28
said nobody stepped up and gave was
49:30
willing to offer what we thought Risto
49:31
Linen was worth, especially after
49:33
Brandon Carlo went for that package from
49:35
the Leafs. Yeah.
49:37
>> Um I'm inclined to believe the Flyers
49:39
when they say, "Yeah, people weren't
49:41
people weren't lining up down the block
49:43
to uh give away premium assets for
49:45
Rasmos line." So
49:47
>> yeah. Yeah, I do think Matthew Matthew
49:49
Patra, whatever you pronounce that from
49:52
uh from Boston could be an interesting
49:54
uh guy to look at for the Flyers. He's
49:58
playing primarily in the AHL this year.
50:00
He has 31 points in 49 games. had 41
50:03
points in 40 games last year in the AHL.
50:07
Um, if that's the main return for
50:09
Tippet, like if it's Potra plus, you
50:11
know, a second round pick or or some
50:12
other type of asset, um, could maybe
50:15
could maybe uh get behind that a little
50:17
bit, but I don't know what his ceiling
50:19
is. His ceiling is probably like
50:22
>> 2C,
50:22
>> maybe better than Christian D'vorak,
50:24
like maybe slightly better than Jet
50:25
Luchenko's ceiling. Like, yeah, 2C at
50:28
best. Maybe maybe a a good 3C. So,
50:31
that's kind of where I I'm at with that.
50:34
But, yeah, it's
50:37
um I forget where I was trying to go
50:40
before.
50:40
>> You and me both, bud.
50:42
>> I I brought that up. Uh
50:44
>> this team, man.
50:45
>> Yeah. Yeah. I like like No, going back
50:47
to the whole risk thing. Like I don't
50:49
want them to make a hockey trade just to
50:50
make a hockey trade. But like if you're
50:52
trading from a position of strength,
50:54
which is winger, to get a center or to
50:56
get a a young defenseman if you also
50:58
trade Risto, I think that's something
51:00
the Flyers have to do eventually. And if
51:03
it comes if it comes now, why not now?
51:05
If it comes in the offseason, that's
51:07
fine, too. Cuz like last year, I feel
51:10
like the Trevor Zager stuff kind of died
51:13
down, but everyone knew he needed a
51:14
change of scenery. The Flyers may have
51:16
been in the mix for him. So, like he was
51:18
kind of in the back of our minds. I
51:20
don't know if someone someone out there
51:22
is like that right now. Um, I guess we
51:25
haven't brought up Robert Thomas at all.
51:26
Like what would you trade? What's the
51:28
best package you would move for for
51:30
Robert Thomas? Sabres are very much in
51:32
on him right now. Detroit could be a fit
51:34
for him as well. Um, uh, what would you
51:38
think of Thomas?
51:39
>> I don't understand why the Sabres are
51:41
trying to trade for Robert Thomas. that
51:43
doesn't they are play like we just said
51:46
they're playing Josh Norris as their
51:47
third line center like the the one two
51:51
punches
51:51
>> I mean Ryan Mloud is their second line
51:52
center like it's so if they can get
51:55
Thomas T Thompson Thomas down down the
51:59
middle like can't yeah I could picture
52:01
Robert Thomas in a uniform can't you
52:03
>> where's Dylan Cousins oh wait Dylan
52:06
Cousins in Ottawa
52:09
>> oh man we're we're we're getting through
52:11
it today folks
52:12
>> Tes Thompson sometimes plays wing as
52:14
well. Like like if they could bring in
52:15
Thomas and put Thomas and Thompson on
52:17
the same line,
52:18
>> that'll be a nightmare as an announcer.
52:21
>> And Tuck at the the triple triple T's
52:24
line there for
52:25
>> Tuck tucks it to Thomas and Tom Thomas
52:28
passes to Thompson. Oh my god, poor JJ
52:30
would have a field day with that.
52:33
>> Oh, it was this quick sidebar. It was so
52:35
refreshing having the NBC broadcast back
52:37
uh for Monday's game after having two
52:40
ESPN broadcasts, which if it was a
52:42
different week, I would have spent 10
52:43
minutes just ranting about that. But we
52:45
had the trade deadline here talking
52:47
about. So,
52:48
>> so Thomas, Robert Thomas, the the Blues
52:51
want like a similar package for like the
52:53
Quinn Hughes package or the Mika Rantin
52:54
package, which is probably asking a bit
52:57
too much. And
52:59
>> I've gone back I've gone back and forth
53:00
on
53:02
>> the rantin package I think is more
53:05
possible like just straight draft picks.
53:08
That makes a little bit more sense. Oh
53:10
wait, which which rantin package? The
53:12
one that
53:13
>> I I I assuming the one that didn't
53:16
involve Marty Nous. The one that didn't
53:17
involve
53:18
>> So the Dallas
53:19
>> It's probably the What was it? Stankovan
53:20
in two first round picks.
53:22
>> Yep. So that that would be like
53:26
Shenko and two first round picks.
53:28
Stenovan was a rough player.
53:30
>> Stankovan was a second round second
53:32
round pick. But uh it it Stankovan maybe
53:36
like a Bobby Brink and two first, but
53:39
that doesn't track with how Doug
53:40
Armstrong seems to like to run his team.
53:43
So it' probably be more like Noah Kates
53:45
or No, not even Noah.
53:47
>> No, I could see I could see Noah Kates.
53:49
like No, no, cuz he's No. Kate's could
53:52
take over as like the the the 2C there
53:54
and be be like a good good presence. Uh
53:57
Kate's
53:59
>> I don't know.
54:00
>> Would you rather give up would you
54:01
rather give up first round draft picks
54:03
or would you rather give up players
54:07
or prospects?
54:07
>> It it it's all it's all contextual. It's
54:09
all contextual. I think I'd rather give
54:13
up first round picks. I think you know
54:16
what selfishly I'd rather give up first
54:18
round picks. So, I don't have to talk
54:19
about 20 names and have the Flyers draft
54:21
none of them every every May.
54:24
>> God, our track record is so bad.
54:27
>> So, yeah, I feel like a first round pick
54:29
like either the better of the Flyers or
54:32
Leafs ones next year. Um, you know, give
54:36
him Luchenko or Nesbit, one of those
54:38
guys. And like a Neil Andre or like a
54:42
maybe a Jamie Dale could be an
54:44
interesting there in St. Lewis to add to
54:46
their blue line. But
54:48
>> I don't but I keep going back and forth
54:50
on is Robert Thomas like the guy you go
54:53
get with that. Like you're not
54:55
completely emptying the cupboard there
54:56
for that. You can go get Robert Thomas
54:58
and then still have other pieces if like
55:01
a real onesie, like a top tier 1C
55:03
becomes available. Robert Thomas is a
55:05
onesie. 81 points last year, 86 points
55:08
the year before. Great passer. Like
55:10
great setup man. 60 assists uh each of
55:13
the past two full seasons. He'd be
55:15
great. He'd be great on uh what six foot
55:17
six foot 27 pounds big enough in the
55:19
middle there. Um he wouldn't excite
55:22
fans, but he would definitely get the
55:24
job done. I just don't know what the ask
55:26
would be. And I feel like if he gets
55:28
moved, we're going to say the Flyers
55:30
should have beat the offer.
55:31
>> I think also
55:34
you there's two other things to
55:36
consider. One, should the Flyers have
55:37
beat the offer? Maybe. But when uh
55:40
Yarosov Ascarov, the the goalie, got
55:42
moved,
55:43
>> one of the big reasons he got traded is
55:45
because the Nashville Predators [ __ ]
55:47
loved David Edstrom. They wanted that
55:49
guy in the draft and then had the
55:51
opportunity to get him. They're like,
55:53
there's nothing unless you're going to
55:54
give us like Mechov or Bonk or some
55:57
crazy crazy valuable prospect, we're not
56:01
interested because we just like these we
56:02
we like this guy.
56:04
>> I forgot. I I forgot about Bonk. I think
56:06
Bonk could be
56:09
>> a start of a package for for Roberts.
56:11
Bonk uh Bonk a first and
56:16
>> Brink Luch.
56:18
>> I don't know if the Flyers would trade
56:19
Luchenko and Bon is this.
56:21
>> So that I
56:22
>> that would make sense though. It don't
56:23
make sense for the Blues. You get a
56:24
center, you get a defenseman, you get a
56:26
first round pick to kind of build your
56:28
core around with D'Vorski, Snugarrude.
56:30
Like they have a decent young core. I
56:33
mean, maybe it's changed, but I I think
56:34
the last I saw the reported ask was
56:38
three first round pick equivalent value
56:42
assets or something. Um, the other thing
56:44
to keep in mind here is Robert Thomas
56:46
has an NMC full no move clause. So, he
56:49
does have to wave it. He probably would.
56:51
I mean, why would you want to stay in
56:52
St. Louis through what's going to be a
56:54
retool or a rebuild? But secondly, if he
56:58
comes here, the Flyers do not have
56:59
flexibility.
57:01
like if all of a sudden Austin Matthews
57:03
or uh Conor McDavid
57:07
because the Oilers should be running
57:08
away with the Pacific division, but they
57:10
can't seem to like stop a puck. Um
57:13
>> you know, if one of those high-end elite
57:16
star centers comes available, you can't
57:18
trade Robert Thomas for that guy because
57:20
he's got a no move clause and probably
57:22
won't want to wave again after he's just
57:24
come here. Um, so you know, you you you
57:28
take a little bit of a risk there that
57:30
you're going to get this guy and then
57:32
maybe he'll be good, but you're stuck
57:34
with him because you can't move him for
57:36
someone better.
57:38
>> Yeah, that is that is something there
57:39
that you have to think about with with
57:41
the flexibility cuz the Flyers do have
57:43
these these contracts locked in for the
57:45
next few years. Thomas is 8.1 million
57:48
through 2031
57:51
2032 at the uh 2031. was 26. Kind of
57:55
fits with the timeline a little bit. Um,
57:59
but yeah, I it it it comes down to what
58:01
what the Blues want. It comes down to
58:02
whatever package the Blues want really.
58:04
You can't say, "Oh, the Flyers should
58:06
have got a bigger package because like
58:07
you like you said, you don't know what
58:09
the other team wants." And that's the
58:10
most important thing is what the Blues
58:12
are going to want back for him. And uh I
58:15
don't think the Flyers are in a position
58:17
where they should pony up for him. like
58:19
the Sabres are, the Red Wings are like
58:23
>> other teams should be looking to to add
58:25
him. Like the Flyers can wait for the
58:28
off season, see who else becomes
58:30
available, maybe maybe do your favorite
58:32
two words, the offer sheet to some of
58:33
these RFAS out there rather than uh
58:36
giving up some assets in season.
58:38
>> Yes, I am. The the tweet when Elliot
58:42
Friedman says the Flyers have offer
58:44
sheetated Leo Carlson is going to fuel
58:47
me for the summer. That's gonna be an
58:49
amazing moment.
58:51
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um let me just look through
58:53
the rest of the uh the athletics big
58:55
board here to see if there's anyone
58:56
worth talking about for the Flyers. Um
59:00
no, not really. Cuz like they're not
59:02
they're not buying. They're maybe
59:04
they'll do like a hockey trade. Um
59:08
no centers. Maybe they'll get like a
59:10
bottom six center, but like Grundstrom
59:11
has seemed fine there in that role. They
59:14
have a few guys in the AHL they could
59:17
bring up. It's just a matter of It's
59:19
just a matter of will be traded and for
59:21
what and will Breier make any other
59:24
moves really.
59:25
>> If if if Grunstrom is here through the
59:27
end of the season because nobody was
59:29
willing to pony up a sixth round pick, I
59:31
don't care. Like it's irrelevant. If he
59:34
finishes out the contract and Brier
59:35
didn't sell Carl Grundstrom for a late
59:38
round pick, whatever, dude. I don't
59:41
care. The the big one is Risto.
59:44
>> Yeah. Okay. Before we end it here, if
59:46
there is one player the Flyers could
59:49
land at the deadline, who do you want it
59:51
to be?
59:52
>> Conor McDavid. Or are we being
59:54
reasonable?
59:54
>> Oh, reasonable. Reasonable.
59:59
>> The Flyers could get one player at the
1:00:01
deadline.
1:00:02
>> All right. I I have my I have mine ready
1:00:03
while you're
1:00:04
>> You go ahead. I I got to think about
1:00:06
that.
1:00:06
>> I want Jesper Walston. I I want Jesper
1:00:08
Walstead. I want a stud goalie to pair
1:00:11
with Dan Liddar to kind of bridge the
1:00:13
gap until Jison or Zvagen are ready.
1:00:17
He's 23. Uh low cap hit. The Wild are
1:00:22
motivated to move him. You trade Tippet.
1:00:25
Uh Tippet something else. You get back
1:00:27
Wallstead. Maybe you take Hartman's
1:00:28
contract. Take a bad contract. You get
1:00:31
you you solve the goalie problem. You
1:00:33
you try to solve the goalie problem.
1:00:35
>> Yeah. I'm going to go a little spicier
1:00:38
because the LA Kings look mid as hell
1:00:41
and say one of Brandt Clark or Quinton
1:00:44
Biffield.
1:00:47
>> I I'm interested to see what the Kings
1:00:49
do at the deadline now because they they
1:00:51
are uh reeling now. They just fired
1:00:53
their coach. They're outside of the
1:00:56
playoffs, I believe. Like
1:00:58
>> FIA is done for the season.
1:00:59
>> FIA's done for the season. That would be
1:01:01
spicy. And uh Brer doesn't have a
1:01:04
history with their GM now, but their GM
1:01:07
>> Oh, no. Proarov was earlier.
1:01:10
>> Stan Bowman is there now, right? Is that
1:01:11
>> No, no, it's Oland. It's Ken Oland.
1:01:14
>> Oh, Kennal. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. So,
1:01:17
yeah. U he he he could make um some some
1:01:21
crazy moves there. Um yeah, I I would
1:01:25
love to see the Flyers just make just
1:01:27
make a move out of nowhere for like a
1:01:29
big name. And that's what they have done
1:01:31
in the past. Like we have seen when the
1:01:33
Flyers make trades, we don't know what's
1:01:35
happening until like the Freriedman
1:01:37
tweet hits 10 minutes before the trade
1:01:39
announcement. They are so good at
1:01:41
keeping things under wraps. I think the
1:01:43
only one that was
1:01:45
>> not a surprise was Scott Long, but
1:01:47
that's the Toronto Maple Leafs. So
1:01:49
everybody in that media sphere just it
1:01:51
it's like everybody knows. So of course
1:01:54
that's going to happen. But Joel Farabby
1:01:56
and Morgan Frost that happened Midame
1:01:57
and nobody saw it coming. Uh Trevor
1:02:00
Ziggress, we just woke up one day and
1:02:02
boom, there's the tweet hearing Zegris
1:02:04
to Philly. Um Sean Walker I think we
1:02:07
knew was going to get traded but we
1:02:09
didn't know where and then all of a
1:02:10
sudden the ABS came in out of nowhere.
1:02:12
>> Um Prover happened like Yeah, it's
1:02:17
Sanheim almost happened out of nowhere.
1:02:18
They they
1:02:19
>> came out of nowhere.
1:02:21
>> Yeah,
1:02:21
>> came out of nowhere last year for the
1:02:23
third round pick from LA. Like if the
1:02:24
Flyers are trading with a team that
1:02:26
isn't covered like the Leafs are or like
1:02:28
a Canadian team is, there'll probably be
1:02:30
very very few whispers.
1:02:32
>> Yeah.
1:02:33
>> Yeah.
1:02:34
>> Um All right. Yeah. Keep it locked here
1:02:36
at Broad Street Hockey um on YouTube. We
1:02:39
will be going live throughout the week
1:02:41
here as things break to discuss
1:02:43
different options. Maybe we'll have some
1:02:44
guests on from other teams if we get
1:02:46
some trades there as well. So keep an
1:02:48
eye out for that. Um, got the Utah
1:02:51
Mammoth coming to town on Thursday
1:02:53
night. Then the Flyers are going to
1:02:55
Pittsburgh on Saturday and then back at
1:02:57
home uh for the Rangers on Monday. Let's
1:03:00
just do the Utah game. Joe, how you
1:03:01
feeling about about the Utah game?
1:03:02
>> 5-3 Flyers.
1:03:04
>> 5-3 Flyers. Utah's Log You got Logan
1:03:06
Pulley back. They're rolling right now.
1:03:08
Uh, I'm gonna go a 4-3 overtime loss to
1:03:11
to Utah in
1:03:12
>> Oh, no. They're getting their first
1:03:14
four-game win streak of the season. I
1:03:15
can feel it.
1:03:17
>> I hope so. I hope so. If they get a
1:03:18
winning streak going, Dan Liddar is
1:03:20
feeling good. He's saying we don't need
1:03:21
everybody, just the real ones. Let's get
1:03:23
the real ones out there for for Dan
1:03:24
Liddar.
1:03:25
>> That's what I'm saying. It's this like
1:03:27
the Flyers have TK is like, I want to go
1:03:30
to the playoffs. I want to go to the
1:03:31
playoffs. This is the last game before
1:03:33
the trade deadline. Like, if you're ever
1:03:35
going to show your GM that you've got
1:03:37
it, this is the one. So, I I expect the
1:03:39
Flyers to come out flying that day.
1:03:43
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