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The Philadelphia Flyers acquired Joseph Woll and Simon Benoit for Emil Andrae, Sam Ersson, and a 2026 third-round pick in a trade with the Toronto Maple Leafs. Ryan Gilbert and Jacob Russell analyze why Danny Briere made the move and what Woll brings to the crease in Philadelphia.
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Philadelphia Flyers have made a huge
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upgrade at their backup goalie position.
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Welcome to Broad Street Hockey. I am
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Ryan Gilbert alongside Jacob Russell and
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Jacob. The Flyers one of the first big
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trades of the offseason here acquiring
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Joseph Wall and Simone Benois from the
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Toronto Maple Leafs for Samuel Eri
0:19
and the third round pick in this year's
0:21
draft.
0:22
Another win. Another win for Danny
0:24
Brier. Yeah, I I don't think even the
0:27
most uh pessimistic, negative Twitter
0:31
ghoul of Flyers fandom could be mad
0:34
about this one because you're
0:35
essentially giving up a guy that we have
0:37
all unanimously sort of agreed is not
0:40
going to be the goalie anymore in Sam
0:42
Emerson and a guy in Emil Andre who the
0:45
team doesn't necessarily,
0:47
you know, they don't feel like they want
0:48
to use him. It's been clear, it's been
0:49
made clear a million different times,
0:51
they'll use them if they have to.
0:53
they're not uh you know against putting
0:56
him in the lineup. He saw him in the
0:58
playoffs, but they'd prefer if they had
1:00
a different option there. And for those
1:03
two players and a third round pick in
1:05
this year's draft, you're able to pick
1:07
up a guy in Joseph Wool who when he's on
1:09
is legitimately, you know, a career 907
1:12
save percentage in 117 games. He's
1:14
legitimately a starting caliber
1:16
goalender on a playoff team. Um you
1:18
know, he has some injury troubles here
1:20
and there. Uh obviously not not exactly
1:23
perfect or else the Leafs would have
1:24
been in a much better position than they
1:26
currently are making this deal. Um but
1:29
you know you get a guy like Joseph Wool
1:31
to pair with Dan Vadar who you expect to
1:34
sign to an extension quite soon here and
1:36
then suddenly you kind of got a a
1:39
goalending tandem that you know if you
1:41
squint at it could be top 10 top five. I
1:46
didn't want to say it this early on, but
1:48
like you know if Wall and Vidar are
1:50
playing if Vladara plays like he did
1:51
last year, high bar. And if Wall plays
1:53
like he did, you know, previously to
1:56
this season, honestly, um not even, you
1:58
know, a specific period in his career,
2:00
but he's had some really good stretches
2:02
of play throughout his entire NHL
2:04
career. If he plays like that, you have
2:05
a very good uh a very good tandem in
2:08
net. And then you get Simone Ben Wahoo,
2:11
you know, whether he is uh going to
2:14
necessarily play a big role or not, he's
2:17
not going to break you at a uh 1.3
2:21
million cap hit for for the rest of the
2:23
season, right? Uh this upcoming season.
2:25
He he's not somebody who's going to he's
2:28
another option to use. He's another
2:30
defenseman. He, you know, is a guy who
2:32
might get in the lineup. And when he's
2:34
played for the Leafs, there have been
2:36
some bad stretches. last year he was not
2:38
very good. Um but there have been some
2:40
good stretches of Simone Benois hockey
2:42
when he first got to the Leafs
2:43
especially. So you know you look at it
2:46
and and the Flyers got the best player
2:47
in the trade. They got the most valuable
2:50
assets I would say and all they had to
2:52
give up really was a third round pick
2:53
and a defenseman that they didn't feel
2:56
too keen on using anyways.
2:58
>> Yeah. Two restrictive free agents. Sam
3:00
Harrison like by the way Brier was
3:02
talking about him. You knew he probably
3:03
wasn't coming back. And I I I always
3:06
hope they could flip him in a goalie
3:07
trade. And yeah, like if Joseph Wall was
3:10
available in free agency, he'd have a
3:12
bunch of teams I feel like interested
3:13
in.
3:14
>> Oh, especially this year.
3:15
>> Yeah. AB. No, absolutely. Like looking
3:16
at the free agency options, like this is
3:18
this is great getting Joseph Wall for
3:19
Okay, a third round pick. Emil Andre, no
3:22
one had Andre pencled into next year's
3:24
lineup anyway. Same thing with Arison.
3:26
We were ready to lose Arison on waiverss
3:29
back in January. So, and I kind of look
3:32
at wall like almost like a Var type like
3:34
Var third round pick in 2015. Wall third
3:37
round pick in 2016. Vadar did bounced
3:40
around a bit more, but Joseph Wall with
3:42
the Leafs um was great with the Marlies
3:45
as well. Uh had 41 starts in 2024 25.
3:50
This past season only an 898 save
3:52
percentage, but that's Sam Erison's
3:54
career best save percentage is 89.
3:55
>> That is literally best season. best case
3:58
Sam Ern is is what Joseph Wool and this
4:01
was like if you I'm obviously closer to
4:03
the Toronto media market than than most
4:05
people talking about the Flyers but if
4:08
you listen to how they spoke about
4:10
Joseph Wall not even in a negative way
4:12
but it's just like man he's really
4:14
having a down year like he's having a
4:16
really rough year a lot of injuries he
4:18
is playing as well as Samuel ever has in
4:21
the NHL at that same time right not you
4:24
know maybe you can quibble one way or
4:25
the other but it it's very close. And
4:28
you look at the rest of his career thus
4:30
far, um like you said, those 41 games
4:33
started um in 24-25,
4:35
909 save percentage. The year before
4:37
that, 25 games played, 23 games started,
4:40
and he had a 907, right? So, uh, that's
4:44
not even talking about the the first two
4:45
seasons where he played little little um
4:48
cups of coffee here and there, seven and
4:50
four games and he's, you know, putting
4:51
up like really really good numbers like
4:54
seven games uh at a 932 save percentages
4:57
from your 24 year old goalie you just
4:59
brought up for the Marlies. That must
5:00
have been pretty exciting. But um even
5:03
if he's not that, even if he's not
5:05
anything close to that, if he is a guy
5:08
who's just going to give you a 900, a
5:09
905 when he's healthy, players haven't
5:13
had that from a backup goalie maybe in
5:14
my entire lifetime, dude. Like it's
5:16
literally been maybe my entire life
5:18
since they've had that. And you got two
5:20
guys, even if Wool is to get injured,
5:23
right? We've seen Vladar handle the
5:25
workload. And I feel more I feel more
5:28
confident in the Flyers being able to
5:30
get like a a stop gap here or there or
5:33
or you know a couple KASB starts before
5:38
you can make a trade like send out a
5:40
fourth round pick for some uh some bum
5:43
from the Senators or something right
5:45
like one of those Marilign types who are
5:47
just like you can get for nothing. I I
5:49
feel more confident with that um even if
5:52
Wool goes down than I did, you know,
5:55
potentially signing somebody and rolling
5:57
it uh running it back with Ersen, right?
5:59
>> Yeah. And as a as a trio, three-headed
6:02
monster.
6:03
>> Yeah. Yeah. And like Wall's injury
6:05
prone, but Ern's injury prone, too. And
6:07
like Wall, at least when he's playing,
6:08
he's good. And if he's really bad, it's
6:11
898. It's not 850. And just looking at
6:14
the the goal save above expected um over
6:16
the past three years since Wall was
6:18
pretty much you know 25 games there
6:20
three years ago. Um goal save above
6:22
expected Joseph Wall is uh 27th among
6:25
all goenders uh you know up there with
6:28
guys Markstrom Keer better than Charlie
6:31
Lindren better better than Bob in that
6:33
span better than Bennington better than
6:35
Gustiffson and of course Samuel Erison
6:38
uh dead last with a negative 30 goal
6:40
save above expected. Uh second second
6:42
worst is uh Mark Andre Flurry minus 19
6:45
and third worst Ivan Fidtov uh - 16
6:49
there and
6:49
>> it's insane. It's also insane how
6:51
>> plus 33.
6:52
>> It's also insane how Fidottov gets
6:54
there. How many games has he played in
6:57
the NHL like that's total
6:59
>> that's uh that's 29 games there. That's
7:02
mad so Mad Sogard 10 games 14.58.
7:07
Uh going down to sixth worst is
7:08
Kolasovative 12.9 in 21 games. And then
7:12
uh Cal Peterson uh 17th worst.
7:14
>> How many of those guys played for the
7:16
Flyers?
7:16
>> Well, I'm just listing off all the
7:18
Flyers now. Uh Felix Anstrom 20th worst.
7:20
Like the Flyers have had some of the
7:22
worstending
7:25
backup goalending in recent years.
7:27
>> Joseph W Joseph Wall brings us exactly
7:30
what we want. We say give us league
7:32
average goalending. This is a playoff
7:34
team. Even with the 33rd work best power
7:37
play in the league, if you have a
7:39
average goalending, you're winning these
7:41
games 2-1, 3-2. You're not having
7:43
Kolosov give up four goals on on four
7:46
shots. Like we saw Ladar go down and
7:48
Erison couldn't handle it. And maybe if
7:49
Larara and Wall get hurt at the same
7:52
time, whatever. If if any team's two
7:54
goalies get hurt, that's
7:56
>> it's over. Yeah.
7:56
>> Yeah. If if your if your tandem of
7:59
goalenders gets hurt, it's it's the
8:01
season, you know, you're you're either
8:03
going to have a Blues year where you
8:04
find somebody out of nowhere and you go
8:06
on a run or it's over.
8:08
>> Yeah. Right.
8:09
>> And like like you were saying about
8:10
having one of the best tandemss in the
8:12
league, like if you take out like the
8:13
teams that are like a 60 game starter
8:16
like a Vaselki, like a Sroken, like it's
8:18
one of the pro probably top five tandem
8:20
in the league. Definitely top 10.
8:22
There's only so many teams doing a true
8:24
tandem, but it's definitely up there.
8:26
one of the best Flyers tandemss since
8:29
Mason and who whatever was back in New
8:32
Earth that they had a good season
8:33
together. That's 10 plus years ago at
8:36
this point back back 20 plus years ago.
8:40
That yeah, Joseph Wall like I know I'm
8:42
pretty sure you've written about him at
8:44
browser.com. We've talked about him. I
8:47
never like took him seriously as an
8:49
option because I didn't think it would
8:51
cost this little like Sam Erison as a
8:54
throwin. Pretty much a Andre
8:58
probably similar to Simone Benois.
9:00
Simone Benois is bigger. So that's more
9:02
of what the Flyers want with their
9:03
style. They clearly were out on a Andre
9:06
and a third round pick. Like it's pretty
9:08
much just okay, a third round pick.
9:10
Here's two roster guys back for for Wall
9:12
and and Benwis.
9:14
And and I will say the third round pick
9:17
thing, it does mean something. But in a
9:21
in an spot where the Flyers are,
9:24
especially with their prospect system,
9:26
and just the guys in the lineup as is,
9:30
how many wingers you have, how many
9:32
defensemen you're going to end up having
9:33
at a certain point, right? You're going
9:34
to draft another crop of defenseman here
9:36
soon. And you have six. You have seven
9:39
realistically, but you have six for
9:41
sure. Um, and they're not old. Like,
9:44
none of these guys are really old. None
9:46
of these guys are on their way out. So,
9:48
you're not You take a third round pick
9:50
to kind of replenish the cupboard. See
9:52
if you can get a guy like Denver Barky
9:53
like the Flyers did a couple years back.
9:56
Um, but I don't think it's necessarily
9:58
they're they're if this was maybe two
10:00
years ago, you're like, "Oh, you want to
10:02
kind of have a pick and, you know, stock
10:03
the cupboards up after the the Chuck
10:05
Fletcher years of just burning it to the
10:07
ground." Um, but I think now you're in a
10:10
a good enough place with the guys in the
10:13
system where you can kind of say, "Okay,
10:16
you can get rid of a third round pick.
10:18
You got the Leafs first round pick next
10:19
year. You're going to have two first
10:21
next year." So, um, always great to
10:24
maybe make their situation a little bit
10:26
more precarious, too, because I mean,
10:29
they do have goalenders. They have
10:31
Dennis Hillby. They have Arthur Achimov
10:34
in the AHL who's been really good and
10:36
they have uh obviously Stolarts uh good
10:39
buddy Anthony Stolarts who I if if if
10:42
we're going off anything Joseph will be
10:44
back in Toronto in about four to five
10:46
years. He'll go to the south of America
10:49
after this and then he'll come back up
10:52
to Toronto and play again and probably
10:55
be bad. But yeah, you look at the Leafs
10:58
goalending situation and they got
11:00
goalenders they want to play who are
11:03
cheaper and who they don't have to
11:04
resign potentially. Um Wool is what is
11:08
this is his last year? Yeah, his last
11:09
year of his uh no his second to last
11:13
year of his deal at 3.6, right? And gets
11:16
a little bit off the Leaf's books, but
11:17
the Flyers can take that price. That's
11:19
really reasonable. If they were going to
11:21
sign a goalender to replace Ursen, I
11:23
think we talked about it before. It's
11:25
probably gonna be like $4 million. Like
11:27
that's just probably what the going rate
11:28
is. Instead, you get Wool who
11:30
>> when he's healthy, he's better than all
11:32
those guys you can sign. He's better
11:33
than Lauren Prisw. He's better than
11:35
Peter Morazzic. He's better than like
11:37
all these guys of Flyers tried before
11:38
anyways. Like you're going to sign
11:40
Martin Jones, you know, like you pull
11:42
him out of the the the garage he's
11:44
sitting in. Um
11:46
>> yeah, like Connor Ingram projected to
11:48
make three million on his deal.
11:49
>> He's not better than Joel. It's not even
11:51
close. And you're not paying you're not
11:52
paying up for a Stu Skinner who you may
11:54
have to you know give
11:55
>> Ste is also not better than Joel Wool. I
11:57
don't see Skinner.
11:59
>> No.
11:59
>> Like Ste Skinner these guys I compare
12:02
more to Ersen. Wool is on a different
12:04
tier than those guys. I mean that it's
12:06
just the health that's been the issue
12:08
for him realistically.
12:09
>> And and how real are those injury
12:11
concerns? Because you are up there in
12:13
Toronto. You're you are more about the
12:15
media. Has it been things where it's
12:17
like nagging at him? Has it been like
12:19
you know consistent injuries the same
12:20
thing? I know it's mostly lower body. I
12:22
think he had a back injury,
12:24
>> but like having him with Lar like give
12:28
each of them 40 starts and and you know
12:30
give them a few nights off here and
12:31
there and they're fine. Well, they did
12:33
try to do that with stoolarts and I
12:35
think where they really ran into the
12:37
problem is they always seemed wool and
12:39
stolarts always kind of seem to get
12:41
injured around the same time or one was
12:43
coming back and one gets injured or one
12:45
just gets injured the other gets injured
12:47
or picks up a little nagging injury here
12:49
or there. I remember Stalarts got beaned
12:52
in the head with a puck I think in
12:53
practice once and that's just one of
12:55
those things that it just seems to
12:56
happen to the Leafs sometimes. Um, I
12:59
wouldn't be surprised. Like, if you
13:00
asked a Leaf fan today, I I think they
13:02
would tell you, "Yeah, I'm not going to
13:04
be surprised when Wool is just healthy
13:05
when he goes to the Flyers." Like, he's
13:06
just fine. Um, Stolart's had the injury
13:08
problems last year as well, right? and
13:11
he had um he was covering for Wool at
13:14
the start and he had some like there was
13:16
like some inner um Stalarts made a
13:20
comment to the media early in the season
13:23
um about how the team was playing and
13:26
that kind of made some friction with him
13:28
and the you know just the greater kind
13:30
of landscape the team plus you know I
13:34
the media also jumps on that again right
13:36
it's it's just a talking point but
13:38
>> it it it just seemed like they got
13:40
injured at the wrong times and yeah, as
13:43
we said, Wool wasn't necessarily up to
13:44
his standards this year, but the Leafs
13:46
weren't either. Um, a bad defensive
13:48
hockey team. So, at the same time, I I
13:53
is it real? Yes, he's been hurt. Like,
13:55
he's been injured, but I I I don't think
13:58
you're expecting Wool to even be a 50,
14:01
not 45 game guy, you know? I think it's
14:04
going to be 40, maybe even 40 max. I
14:06
don't know how much you're going to lean
14:08
on Vladar. I don't know if this is going
14:09
to be a 1A 1B thing. I think it probably
14:11
will be. I think you got to, especially
14:13
if you extend Vladar, I think you got to
14:14
just let him run. Like first three
14:17
starts of the year, we're going we're
14:18
going Dan. Unless it's back toback. I
14:20
didn't look at the schedule. I don't
14:21
know if it's out. I don't know. I don't
14:22
think it's out yet. I don't think it's
14:23
out.
14:23
>> No, it shouldn't be out yet.
14:26
But you you get the point, right? Like
14:28
you got to run with Lar. Um, but I think
14:31
a guy like Wool, you keep him fresh and
14:37
I I a goalies get hurt. Goalies get hurt
14:40
a lot nowadays.
14:41
>> Exactly.
14:42
>> I think that's just something you got to
14:43
hope doesn't happen. You know, I think
14:45
that's really it.
14:46
>> It's what you're going to say about any
14:47
goalie, you go, "Okay, well, maybe he'll
14:49
get hurt." Humans aren't meant to do
14:51
what goalies do with all the butterfly
14:53
and what that. They're meant to be
14:54
standup goalies like they were 50 years
14:56
ago when it looked like a different
14:57
sport out there on the ice. But yeah,
14:59
and that's the reason why the Flyers
15:01
were able to get him for a third round
15:03
pick and two roster players that kind of
15:06
were on the way out anyway is because of
15:08
that injury injury risk. And if he was
15:11
healthy, the Leafs would be like, "All
15:12
right, he's our starter. We're going to
15:13
go into next season, get Gavin McKenna,
15:15
let's run it back here with Joseph
15:17
Wall." But, you know, hopefully this
15:19
change of scenery can help for Wall.
15:21
Maybe it'll help for Eric and Andre as
15:23
well. But like this this really is just
15:25
it like it's the I think the perfect
15:27
start to the offseason for the Flyers.
15:29
>> It's a great splash to make. I don't
15:31
think it came out of nowhere. Um funny
15:33
that they always wait until after the
15:35
cup final ends to make a trade. It just
15:36
always seems like they do that. Um so I
15:38
guess we shouldn't be surprised because
15:40
and then Ross Colton gets moved like an
15:42
hour and a half after that. Not that
15:44
that's a huge ground earthshattering
15:48
move, but you know, uh,
15:50
>> well, not neither is this, but it's just
15:53
with the Leaf.
15:53
>> No, I think I think I think there's uh
15:56
>> I think Leaf fans are upset about this
15:58
one. You know, I just like especially I
16:01
guess you touch on Benois quickly. Um,
16:04
>> Benois was not good last year. Um, he
16:09
was not really good the year before that
16:10
either. He's not very good in general,
16:13
but at the same time, you I I feel
16:17
infinitely better about Simone Benois
16:19
than I did about Noah Jules before the
16:21
season. And we got some really decent
16:23
Noah Jules games by the end there. We
16:26
got like goals in the playoffs, Noah
16:28
Jules. We got multi-point Noah Jules
16:31
games in the playoffs against the
16:33
Penguins at the end of last year. So
16:35
sometimes some things just work, you
16:37
know, and I think Benois,
16:40
he's a guy who's very wellliked in the
16:42
room. He's a leader. I one thing I will
16:44
always say about watching Simone Benois
16:45
is he tries his ass off every single
16:47
time he's on the ice. He will he will be
16:50
rarely will there be uh more than a
16:52
player on the ice. If you're maybe
16:54
playing a McKinnon or somebody who is
16:56
trying harder than Simone Benois, he
16:59
doesn't have the skill. He's not
17:01
offensive, but as a seventh defenseman,
17:03
if they utilize him as a seventh
17:05
defenseman, which seems like they will
17:06
because Uric has to play and, you know,
17:10
they have a nucleus of guys that I think
17:12
they like, um, if he's a guy who's sixth
17:16
or seventh and you flip him in and out,
17:18
I think he can play really well. I think
17:19
the play style suits him and play style
17:22
suits what, you know, the defensive, you
17:24
know, workhorse sort of, uh, mentality
17:26
that he has. And you look at a guy like
17:28
Nick Cer who was also dead and buried
17:31
comes to Philly.
17:33
He turned out to have a pretty great
17:34
career for himself. Nick Cer has
17:36
probably the best, you know, outcome of
17:39
a of a career. 99th percentile Nick
17:41
Sealer outcome coming to Philly, right?
17:43
And I don't think it ever would have got
17:45
better than what he got here. And, you
17:47
know, maybe Benois, he had some good
17:48
years when he started with the Leafs
17:50
initially. Maybe Benois can be a guy who
17:53
who flips the switch and turns it around
17:54
too uh in in a new situation. I mean, I
17:58
don't think there's a high ceiling. I
18:00
don't think he'll be sticking around uh
18:02
unless he plays really well this year.
18:05
Uh but it's also, you know, another toy
18:08
to play with and we'll see. We'll see
18:10
who if he can maybe find that form from
18:12
his early career in Toronto.
18:15
>> Yeah. You were comparing him to Steeler
18:16
before before the podcast before we
18:18
started.
18:18
>> You were comparing him to Jules.
18:20
>> Well, yeah. I I think it's fair. Both of
18:21
those. It's It's kind of in between the
18:23
middle there.
18:23
>> Yeah, it's probably between the middle,
18:24
but like Yeah. Simone Benois, one more
18:26
year in his deal. 1.3 million, 27.
18:29
Sealer, two more years on his deal.
18:30
Making double what Benois is. Like, and
18:33
he's just an easier guy to rotate in.
18:35
6'4. He's never going to have too many
18:38
points. Had six points this past year,
18:40
careerhigh of 10. Like, he's just a guy
18:42
that you can if Seal's beat up, you
18:44
rotate him in for Seer. If there's an
18:46
injury to, god forbid, Sanheim or York,
18:49
it's easier to be like, "All right,
18:51
we'll put Benois in there." And it's not
18:53
someone like Andre where unfortunately
18:55
Rick Tocket is like, "Yeah, yeah." Or
18:58
Bonk or Yurichek. It's someone who, you
19:00
know, has played full five, six full
19:03
seasons in the NHL, has averaged 19
19:06
minutes a night his final year in
19:08
Anaheim, which is another point I wanted
19:10
to bring up. He played with Trevor Zris
19:12
and Jamie Dale. So,
19:13
>> more ducks, baby.
19:14
>> Yeah, more ducks.
19:16
join the flock.
19:17
>> Yeah, join the flock over here in
19:19
Philadelphia. So, yeah, you know, air
19:21
Andre hopefully things work out for him
19:23
in Toronto. Always going to be a big fan
19:25
of Sam Erison, but uh yeah, I I imagine
19:28
once uh once Matt Sundine got a job in
19:30
the Flyers or in the Leafs front office
19:33
was like how how would you like these
19:34
two Swedes to join you up there in
19:36
Toronto, Matts? And you know, get get
19:38
them two Swedes there, Erison and Andre
19:40
for uh in a third round pick for Wall
19:42
and Ben. feel like is just it's not one
19:45
of these moves that's going to be a
19:47
Stanley Cup winning move, but you got to
19:49
put these bricks together to to build
19:51
that wall and and that this is one here
19:52
for uh Danny Brier.
19:55
>> Yeah. And I I I think you you got to
19:57
look at this in a
20:00
it's not about what Andre becomes if he
20:03
goes to Toronto. I could see a world
20:05
where Emil Andre is like a power play
20:07
two quarterback and has a decent career
20:10
as like a Sam Gerard light, you know, a
20:14
Bowen Byum kind of guy who they're not
20:17
great. You don't love them out there,
20:19
but um and you don't love them out there
20:22
on five on five, but they can, you know,
20:24
kind of move the puck and they're a
20:26
water bug. And I liked what Andre did in
20:28
the playoffs. Like he didn't seem scared
20:29
to go into the corner when the Penguins
20:31
were chasing him down or the Hurricanes
20:33
even. Um, he obviously didn't play as
20:35
much and Jules, you know, also looked
20:37
pretty good uh in spurts, but I think
20:40
Andre can be a guy who if everything
20:42
breaks right, he scores 30 points, he
20:44
plays pretty okay defense and, you know,
20:48
he's he's capable of running a power
20:50
play. God knows we've seen uh an
20:53
offensive defenseman leave Philly and
20:54
then turn into something. Shout out to
20:56
my guy Shane, Stanley Cup champion Shane
20:59
Gossar.
21:01
Um, oh god, it just hurts so bad. He was
21:04
he was one of my favorites. Anyways, the
21:07
the thing with Andre,
21:09
you know, it's not about what he becomes
21:11
because he's never going to do that
21:12
here. And Bon was going to take his spot
21:14
if it wasn't Yurichek already taking his
21:16
spot next year, which I kind of feel
21:19
like they'd rather have the tall guy who
21:22
moves the puck rather than the short guy
21:23
that moves the puck. So, I kind of felt
21:25
that way.
21:26
>> Yeah. And then this too, like I mean
21:28
>> Yeah. And right-handed D. Everyone's
21:29
horny for a right-handed D. Um,
21:33
>> so I don't necessarily think he would
21:34
have played and then Bon was going to
21:36
take it regardless. Bonk will take
21:37
somebody's spot eventually. I feel like
21:39
he's an NHLer. It's just a matter of how
21:42
good he was. Uh, he's going to be in the
21:44
NHL. Um, so if Andre does play well with
21:49
the Leafs, you kind of got to chalk that
21:51
up to just the situation and you got to
21:54
look at what the needs were for the
21:55
Flyers going into the off season. And
21:58
you need a 1C. Obviously, you would love
22:00
a 1C. Everyone would love a 1C, but you
22:03
did need a backup goalie or some guy who
22:05
can push Fidar. And you find that for a
22:07
very reasonable um amount of money. And
22:11
I just don't think that the injury
22:14
problems are necessarily going to
22:18
they're not going to hurt the Flyers as
22:20
much as they hurt the Leafs. I just I
22:22
just don't believe that. Especially with
22:24
Fedara being there. I think the Flyers
22:26
will believe in Fedar as the as the
22:28
starting goalender and and Wool's just
22:30
there to be the backup, especially
22:32
after, you know, the the season that
22:34
Wool just had. You can kind of you kind
22:36
of got leverage on him, you know, he's
22:38
not really a guy who can say, I've look
22:40
at what I've done in the NHL over a long
22:43
period of time. Um, I got to get more
22:46
games. Um, if that was, you know, a
22:48
hypothetical scenario. Uh, so I think
22:50
Larara, you run with Lar. If Wool does
22:53
end up getting hurt, you can pivot.
22:55
There are guys, you know, who knows when
22:57
Bjneson will be ready. Maybe Bjnison
22:59
will be will be ready eventually. I
23:01
don't know. I don't know where half of
23:04
the Flyers goending prospects could be
23:06
ready tomorrow or they could take
23:08
another three years. I don't I have no
23:09
idea. So, you know, there there you can
23:12
make if you have the wool option there,
23:16
I think it makes things easier if you
23:19
have to go out and just grab somebody
23:21
off the scrap heap later down the road.
23:23
You don't start with that as plan number
23:24
one is guy off scrap heap.
23:27
>> Like it it's similar to what we felt I
23:29
feel like last summer about LAR. It's
23:30
like, okay, Lar can come in, maybe he
23:32
can, you know, be a good one A1B with
23:35
Erien who we had high hopes for for for
23:38
some reason. just you thought he got
23:40
overworked at the end of the season, but
23:42
I think that may have just broken his
23:43
brain.
23:44
>> Yeah. But but now like we have Lar, we
23:46
know he can be the 1A. Joseph Hall has
23:49
shown he can be a starting goalie. Like
23:50
he can be the 1B. It just gives us so
23:53
much more confidence going into next
23:55
season, which is what you were talking
23:56
about before with the third round pick.
23:58
You don't do this two, three years ago
24:00
when we had to suffer through Cal
24:02
Peterson and and Felix Anstrom and all
24:05
those guys. But now coming off a playoff
24:07
series win, it gives the guys in the
24:09
room like, "All right, hey, we we liked
24:11
Sam, but we have now a guy."
24:13
>> It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter
24:15
who's in net. You have a chance to win.
24:17
And that does mean something because
24:19
there were nights where you felt Ersen
24:21
come in the second half of a backtoback.
24:23
You're just losing that game. That's a
24:24
schedule loss. And the players never say
24:27
it. They're all robots. We all know
24:29
this. But you feel that you know when
24:32
Ursen's in net versus Lar who has won
24:34
you countless games up to the point you
24:37
you especially when you get down the
24:38
stretch and you're actually playing for
24:40
something again when you see Ursen
24:43
second half of a backto-back on the road
24:46
coming in against the Capitals or or you
24:49
know some other hungry team who's on
24:51
your tail for the playoff chase. You're
24:52
kind of like okay why it would be nice
24:55
if there was somebody else there. we
24:57
can't just start in the shootout,
24:58
unfortunately, um to really get the best
25:01
out of Samuel. So, it kind of makes it
25:04
kind of makes it tough for those guys to
25:06
think they're going to have as good of a
25:07
chance to win because they don't. They
25:08
just flat out don't. So, with with Wool,
25:11
you can hopefully take some of that drop
25:13
off away. Um and if Vladar was to
25:17
struggle, um which I think, you know,
25:20
you got to expect at some point that
25:21
he's going to have a stretch where he
25:23
stumbles. he's been so good for so long
25:25
and played so many games. Um Wool can
25:29
step in and he's not afraid of getting,
25:32
you know, seven out of eight starts in a
25:34
span. He's done it. Um even in his
25:37
tandem with Stolarts, like I said, there
25:39
were on andoff injuries. There were
25:41
there were, you know, uh tandem
25:44
injuries, man. They just one would go
25:46
and then the other one would go. So Wall
25:47
has had to play stretches of hockey,
25:49
right? where his backup was the younger
25:52
Hill to be or you know somebody else.
25:54
Martin Jones actually
25:56
>> enough Martin Jones was around. So you
25:59
know that's what I'm saying. You don't
25:59
want to get Martin Jones in net. You
26:01
know you got to take you got to take
26:02
these pucks man. You're going to have to
26:03
take you're going to have to eat
26:05
for a week here because we're not
26:06
putting Martin Jones in the net. Um so
26:09
Wol's used to it. I think it makes a lot
26:11
more sense for the Flyers than it does
26:12
the Maple Leafs. But I know that the
26:14
Leafs wanted to dump Wool's salary. Uh I
26:16
don't know how much it does. I don't
26:18
know if you're going to sign a guy who's
26:20
more reliable or or better than Wool,
26:23
but that's not up for me to figure out
26:26
thankfully. And the Flyers just kind of
26:28
don't give up too much that they can
26:30
really you can really feel bad about. I
26:32
mean, you like Sam, you like Emil. Both
26:35
seem like really well-liked guys, but
26:37
that's about where the extent of the
26:38
loss ends.
26:40
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well guys, good guys in the
26:43
room. Great. I love that. I'd rather
26:45
have people that can help me win games
26:47
like as long as as long as they're not
26:48
completely against that. So yeah, no,
26:50
happy trails to Emil and uh and Sam up
26:52
there in Toronto, but uh hopefully the
26:55
start of a good off seasonason here for
26:56
the Flyers, shoring up the backup goalie
26:59
position. Still got maybe a defenseman
27:01
to get maybe another forward, maybe they
27:02
make a move. Uh we will of course be
27:05
discussing that and more on Broad Street
27:07
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27:09
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27:11
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27:19
Uh, Jacob, let's just give a quick a
27:21
quick grade on this trade. And any final
27:23
thoughts?
27:24
>> Well, you got I I think I got to go
27:28
I don't love the process that led to
27:30
Andre like leaving, but you still got to
27:32
go like a minus.
27:33
>> Like I don't like the fact that Andre
27:34
had to leave because they didn't play
27:35
him, but
27:36
>> he wasn't going to play. Like I know
27:39
I've accepted that he probably wasn't
27:40
going to play. So you get rid of guys
27:42
that you're probably not going to play
27:43
and a third round pick and you get a guy
27:45
in Wool who
27:47
>> I've watched him be
27:48
>> like an elite goalender for stretches.
27:51
So
27:51
>> you you you just you can't be mad about
27:53
it. I think a minus a minus Danny
27:56
another dub for Danny
27:58
>> racking up a common Danny Brerier win
28:00
here. Yeah, I'm just gonna give a
28:01
straight A. Like like like to take out
28:04
how they handled Andre like Sam Harrison
28:06
the worst goalie in the league last year
28:08
and Joseph Wall is someone who can be a
28:11
league average at worst. So this is just
28:13
great start to the offseason for Danny
28:15
Priier. Great start here for Bronsey
28:17
Hockey. Got the draft coming up in a few
28:18
weeks. I think we have a draft party
28:19
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28:24
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