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[music]
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Hello and welcome to the Broad Street
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Hockey Podcast. I am your host, Ryan
0:21
Gilbert, joined by my co-host, the Bean
0:22
Boy himself, Joe De Marini. Joe, you you
0:26
beaned up for the season here? You know,
0:28
I'm making beans for dinner tonight. Did
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you?
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>> I did not. I did not. No. I I don't I
0:33
did not know that. No.
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>> Incredible. Uh yeah. No, I'm stoked. I
0:37
just did my fantasy draft last night, so
0:40
hopefully that works out okay for my for
0:42
my team this year. Um two days. We got
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two days till Flyers hockey. Are you
0:47
feeling ready?
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>> I I'm feeling ready. I'm beamed up.
0:50
That's why I'm trying to do some fun
0:51
intros here. I got Bean Boy beamed up.
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We're working it all all together here.
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Yeah. going to do a we're going to touch
0:57
on every player in this episode. We're
0:58
going to go player by player by number
1:01
by position group. So, we're going to go
1:02
all the forwards by number,
1:04
[clears throat] then all the defenseman,
1:05
then the goalies. We'll start at the top
1:07
with some recent news, players that got
1:09
sent down, all that good stuff, and
1:10
start at the top of course with the
1:11
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website, all that good stuff. You guys
1:20
know already. We got we got so much to
1:21
get into there. We have at least 25
1:23
players we're talking about. We'll spend
1:25
a minute or two on some. We'll spend
1:27
five or 10 minutes on others. So, um
1:29
let's just get started here um with the
1:32
Flyers news from over the weekend. The
1:35
players that just missed the cut on the
1:37
roster were Kokubil, Jet Luchenko for
1:40
forwards, Oliver Bon for defenseman, and
1:44
thank God Alexi Kolaf for for
1:46
goalending. And let's just start with
1:48
Kolosov because
1:49
>> that that game Saturday night, the
1:51
Flyers had no business losing. Thank god
1:53
they're getting their their goalie bad
1:55
goalie luck out of the way in preseason,
1:58
but um Alexi Kolosov just looked like
2:01
what we thought Alexi Kolosoff looked
2:04
like before and he just cannot be relied
2:06
upon as an NHL goalie.
2:07
>> Were you at that game?
2:09
>> I I was not thankfully.
2:10
>> Okay. You were at the other one.
2:12
>> I was at the first one. Yeah, I was on
2:13
on Thursday. Yeah.
2:14
>> Okay. Yeah. No, Coley the goalie. We had
2:18
a good run. It's uh there's been some
2:22
good puns out there. I saw you had colon
2:24
no which is good. I saw Cola soft
2:27
>> and my personal favorite was Colola Civ
2:30
and I thought that was
2:32
>> good.
2:33
>> That was good. Uh that was brutal.
2:35
>> I'm a little worried about him being the
2:37
third goalender in the pecking order
2:39
here.
2:40
>> Um
2:42
>> but I don't see a good solution either.
2:45
We talked last week if you claim a guy
2:47
on waiverss he joins your roster. like
2:50
you can't just stash him in the AHL
2:52
until you need him. He joins your team
2:54
immediately. I don't think the Flyers
2:57
like they they did the three goalie
2:58
thing a couple years ago with uh Hart
3:02
Erien and SandstΓΆm.
3:04
Felix Sandstrom I think was their third
3:06
goalie and they didn't want to wave him
3:08
and uh
3:09
>> yeah I I don't think they want to do
3:11
that again. Well, they did that last
3:13
year or two years ago, too, with Arison
3:16
Fedo and Kolasov because they wouldn't
3:19
he wouldn't go down.
3:20
>> Yeah, cuz Kosov didn't want to go down
3:22
to the to the AHL. But boy,
3:24
>> yeah. And like there there's nothing the
3:25
Flyers can do at this point. Luckily, it
3:27
looks like Danlar Breier said he would
3:29
have played Saturday if it was a regular
3:31
season game. So, he'll be ready for
3:32
Wednesday. Joseph Wall looked great on
3:35
Thursday in the shutout against the
3:37
Bruins. Bruins didn't have a ton of
3:39
talent playing there, but still getting
3:40
a shut out in in any game is uh is
3:43
pretty good. Pretty good there. And so
3:45
yeah, you have that's why Brier went out
3:48
and got Joseph Wall, but now you're
3:50
looking at it like, okay, if Lar or Wall
3:53
get hurt for a week or two or or
3:56
possibly more, your your your option is
3:59
then you're basically doing what you did
4:01
last year with Lar and Erison with
4:04
either Larara or Wall with Kasoff and
4:08
Kasoff and Bjnison should work in the
4:11
AHL like you don't want to go sign or
4:14
like the Flyers didn't claim anyone on
4:16
waiverss. Like I saw Dave Ridditch was
4:18
on waivers, some guys like that. But
4:20
like then you have three goalies either
4:23
in the NHL or in the AHL or you send
4:27
Bjnison or Kolosoft to the ECHL which
4:30
just really isn't a developmental
4:32
league. It's just a a league for guys
4:34
hanging on before going over to to play
4:37
overseas. So
4:38
>> hey, if Kolov hated if he hated Lehigh
4:40
Valley, he would certainly hate going to
4:42
the ECL.
4:44
>> Yeah. So yeah, l l l l l l l l l l l l l
4:46
l l l l l l luckily like I said is going
4:47
to be ready Joseph Wall looks like a
4:49
good backup but um when an injury does
4:52
happen because injuries will happen at
4:53
some point like it just just has to
4:55
happen at some point um hopefully it's
4:57
not for too long and hopefully it's not
4:59
at a point in their schedule where the
5:01
Flyers are playing a backtoback three
5:03
and four and four and six like they are
5:05
to start the year.
5:06
>> Yeah, and that Kasoff game, the good
5:08
news is the Flyers looked pretty darn
5:10
good. They looked real good. Charlie
5:12
Lingren was just a much much better
5:14
goalender than Kolov. Um I think I saw
5:18
on Hockey Viz that the Flyers generated
5:20
like
5:21
>> Huh.
5:21
>> Cal Peterson came in for the third
5:23
period. Still couldn't even score.
5:24
>> They couldn't score. I think I saw in
5:26
Hockey Viz that the Flyers had like four
5:28
or five expected goals to the Capitals.
5:30
One or two. So hey, good process, bad
5:34
result.
5:35
>> Yeah. And the power play, we we both
5:36
said it on uh on social media. Looked
5:38
visually better. It looks visually
5:40
better. It's just a matter of putting
5:41
the puck there in the back of the net.
5:43
So, um, yeah, power play looked good.
5:45
Goalending that did not look good. Um,
5:48
but who did look good in the preseason
5:50
was Kokanubal and Jet Luchenko. I think
5:53
in other years perhaps they they would
5:56
get a spot on the roster. And some
5:58
people are saying, you know, Kenubal
6:00
like Kenubal did everything you asked
6:01
him at Press like why don't you reward
6:03
him with a spot on the roster? But, you
6:06
know, maybe if Barky was out long term
6:08
or or or if Bump was hurt or if Gbenin
6:11
was still out, you would have Kenuble
6:13
playing as the 12th forward, but I don't
6:16
want to keep Kenob or Luchenko around to
6:18
be the 13th guy. Just rotate in. Send
6:21
them down. Let them play big minutes in
6:23
the AHL and and I think the I think the
6:25
Phantom's preseason started over the
6:27
weekend. So, let them go down there. let
6:28
them, you know, have somewhere to put
6:30
their underwear as Rick Tocket said and
6:32
and and see if they can be the barky of
6:34
of this year.
6:35
>> I fully agree. Um
6:38
forward is the most stacked position on
6:41
this team. There's so many guys that
6:43
they already need to get minutes to. Um
6:47
it just it sucks for them but also
6:51
hey it'll show what they're made of too
6:54
cuz I remember
6:56
uh one of I I can't remember which
6:58
player was maybe it was York maybe it
7:00
was like Brink or something. They got
7:02
sent down at the beginning of the year.
7:04
It was Emil Andre. He got sent down and
7:06
sulked for a bit and his play really
7:08
dropped off with the Phantoms and it's
7:10
like dude we sent you down here. You got
7:13
to keep playing as if you're trying
7:15
every day to get back to the NHL. You
7:17
can't just phone it in. So hopefully
7:20
when Luchenko and Ken start with the
7:22
Phantoms, they're still playing with
7:24
this kind of this kind of jam and trying
7:28
every day to get back to the NHL.
7:30
>> Yeah. And where the Flyers are at right
7:32
now, they're turning the corner on their
7:34
rebuild. They're trying to compete
7:36
coming off a playoff series win. You
7:38
don't want to be in a spot where someone
7:40
with no NHL experience or nine games,
7:43
whatever Luchenko has, can come in and
7:45
win a spot. Like unless they're Porter
7:47
Martone is completely different story.
7:49
Like we saw how how good he was in his
7:51
first 19 games or whatever. But like it
7:54
it's Flyer stayed healthy pretty much in
7:57
camp. So Luchenko and Canubal will
8:00
probably play in the NHL at some point
8:02
this year and hopefully they uh they can
8:03
keep it up keep up what they did in the
8:05
uh preseason.
8:06
>> Yeah. I mean, it's the same thing that
8:09
happened with Oliver Bonk and David
8:10
Urechek. Like, you
8:14
would have had to absolutely totally
8:16
bomb the camp. I know you've got
8:18
thoughts. We'll get to him. And Bonk
8:19
would have had to play so good that they
8:21
couldn't deny him a place on the team.
8:23
Kenuba and Luchenko were both really
8:25
good, but I also don't think Barky or
8:28
Bump or Martone or anyone else on the
8:30
Flyers roster bombed hard enough to lose
8:33
the spot that they had more or less
8:35
earned last season. That's that's really
8:37
just what it comes down to.
8:39
>> There weren't really roster battles in
8:41
this training camp. There were lineup
8:42
battles. Who's gonna play with Mitch
8:44
Goff? Who's who's gonna play with, you
8:45
know, Kates and Forester?
8:47
>> We still don't know. [laughter]
8:48
>> Who's who's going to play on the, you
8:49
know, third line winger and the fourth
8:51
line winger with Couttori and Achari.
8:54
And yeah, I don't really think there was
8:56
ever a competition even on the blue
8:57
line. Like they they weren't going to
8:59
risk sending through waiverss. Maybe if
9:02
his performance on Saturday night
9:04
happened earlier in the preseason, they
9:06
would have thought about it or looked
9:08
around the league for other options. But
9:09
I I still think you you traded Brink for
9:12
him. He's a former top pick. Bon can go
9:15
to the AHL. Benois can be your six or
9:18
seven and Urak you can see you can see
9:21
what he can do with more practice time
9:24
and you know just cycle him in.
9:25
>> I I joked in the chat the other day that
9:28
uh if they did wave David Yurichek the
9:30
Blues absolutely would have claimed him.
9:31
so he could play with his brother.
9:33
>> That was a joke. But I realized Logan
9:36
Mayu, the one of the defensemen on um
9:39
the Blues, like broke his hand in a
9:41
fight. He's going to miss eight weeks
9:42
after going through surgery. So they
9:44
actually would have they claimed Justin
9:46
Baron. They would have been looking for
9:47
a defenseman to add. So you know what?
9:50
Probably best that they kept the kept
9:52
David Uric on the NHL roster.
9:54
>> Yeah. And like I Bon I think is one of
9:57
the best six defenseman the Flyers have
9:58
right now. I I said four or five in my
10:01
article, which is probably an
10:02
exaggeration, but if the Flyers needed
10:04
to win a hockey game, they would play
10:06
Bon over Yurichek, but due to asset
10:09
management and waiverss and development,
10:11
Bon is better in the AHL. And Yurichek
10:14
really, I don't think, had a had a
10:16
chance of of losing his his his grip on
10:18
a roster spot, even though he may not
10:21
play in the opening night lineup, which
10:23
we'll get to later in the show.
10:25
>> Yeah. All right.
10:26
>> All right. Let's uh let's get into our
10:29
player by player breakdown. Starting
10:31
with the forwards going uh numerically
10:34
here with number 10.
10:37
>> Number 10, uh Johnlair, Braden Shen,
10:39
Bobby Brink. No, number 10, Garrett
10:41
Wilson. Uh Flyer signed Wilson to a
10:45
one-year deal on Sunday. Looks like he
10:48
might make the opening night roster. You
10:50
know, rosters are are um due 5:00 p.
10:54
p.m. I believe today. So, we'll see if
10:56
Barky's healthy. They could put Barky on
10:58
the IR for some or something. They could
11:00
send Grundstrom down because he already
11:02
cleared waiverss. But, it looks like
11:04
Wilson's just gonna be that that Nick
11:06
Deloreier type guy, that 13th forward
11:08
that, you know, would you rather have
11:10
Kokuna or Jet Lucenko on the ice for for
11:13
over Wilson? Yeah, sure. But that that
11:16
impacts their development and all of
11:18
that. So, you have Wilson as the 13th
11:20
guy. He can fight. We saw him fight in
11:23
the preseason. Um, it seems like the
11:26
guys all like him. Like when they signed
11:28
him, like everyone shared on their
11:29
Instagram stories, like the the graphic
11:31
of it, he he's always hanging around
11:33
with the guys, too. So, good for Garrett
11:35
Wilson. Get get him some NHL time, you
11:37
know, money.
11:39
>> NHL money. He's been a good soldier down
11:41
in the AHL. Matty Campbell always talks
11:43
very highly of him. So, uh, h happy for
11:46
Garrett Wilson.
11:47
>> I am too. But I read some comments on
11:50
like Twitter and blog posts and people
11:54
are mad. They're like, "Oh great,
11:55
another bottom six grinder. Just what we
11:57
need on this team. Always sign of the
11:59
I'm like, guys, it's a fourth line
12:00
forward. What What are you like, don't
12:04
waste your energy on this. It's not
12:05
worth it."
12:06
>> Yeah. And he's someone that you can just
12:08
like, okay, if Bump or Barky or
12:10
Grabbankin is banged up or has a bad
12:12
game, you could put you could put Wilson
12:14
in for one game and you're not like, oh,
12:17
maybe Wilson will will go off for a game
12:19
and, you know, bump bumper Barky may
12:21
have to sit for more than one game. No,
12:22
if Wilson's getting in there, it's for
12:24
the matchup. If it's a rivalry game or
12:26
whatever, or it's to, you know, give
12:28
someone a breather in a backtoback, it's
12:30
not because he's playing better hockey
12:32
than anyone else on the team.
12:34
>> Yeah. Yeah. If you wanted someone to pop
12:35
off in limited minutes, it's Carl
12:37
Grunstrom. That's the guy you would put
12:38
on the fourth line.
12:39
>> It is. Yes. Yes. Or or higher in the
12:41
lineup. No. But we uh No. Well, we uh
12:44
with with the uh the Carl Carl line
12:46
there. Got we got some volunteers here
12:48
in in the chat to uh to play goalie if
12:50
they have to. Uh Joe Fraser, 5'6, 145
12:54
pounds, 46 years old. You got a
12:56
50-year-old man. Uh larger carriage. The
12:59
three of us can get inside a trench coat
13:00
and play the goalie position. Let's do
13:02
it. It's like that uh sport science back
13:05
in the day where they put a sumo
13:06
wrestler in net and and and proved. Have
13:10
Have you seen that one?
13:11
>> I Well, that just came up on The
13:12
Athletic a couple days ago. Uh Down goes
13:15
Brown was doing like a no stupid
13:17
questions mailbag and one of them was
13:19
why not just put a sumo wrestler in
13:20
that. And uh he was like, "Yeah." So,
13:24
the reason they don't do that is if you
13:26
just put a big guy there, NHL shooters
13:28
are so good they'll pick the corners all
13:30
day and it won't make a difference.
13:32
>> Yeah. And we saw that with Ivan Fedotov.
13:34
Yeah, we saw we saw big goalies aren't
13:36
aren't always aren't always better.
13:38
>> That five hole, man. The Ivan Fedotov.
13:40
>> Yeah, five hole.
13:43
>> All right, going now to number 11, uh
13:46
Travis Kknney, the Flyers leading scorer
13:48
for the past five seasons. Um looks
13:51
like, you know, he's moving around the
13:53
lineup a little bit here. It looks like
13:55
he might play with Christian D'vorak and
13:57
Alex Bump based on practice on Sunday.
14:01
He played some with D'vorak and Mitchkov
14:02
in one of the preseason games. Connect
14:05
is a guy though that he can play with
14:06
anyone. Plays the same way. You know
14:08
what you're going to get. He's going to
14:10
put up 60 70 points. He'll he'll grind.
14:13
He'll play two-way. He can kill
14:15
penalties if he has to. He'll play 20
14:17
minutes a night. We We just know what to
14:19
expect from Kknney. And honestly, it
14:22
feels like he's older than than 29. It
14:25
it really does.
14:26
>> He's been around a while. I I think uh
14:28
the years of the bad years have kind of
14:30
worn on him. Uh it makes it feel like
14:33
he's older. Uh I like that idea of
14:35
putting him with uh D'vorak and I guess
14:38
for now bump. We'll we'll see where it
14:40
goes from there. Uh but yeah, 30 goals,
14:42
set it, forget it. 65 70 plus points. Um
14:47
trying to draw Brian Rust into a fight
14:49
and then Brian Russ not going, not
14:52
taking the bait.
14:53
>> Yeah.
14:54
>> Yeah. There there's nothing more to say
14:55
about TK. He's going to do what he's
14:57
going to do and we know what he's going
14:58
to do.
14:58
>> So KKNY last year 27 goals, 68 points in
15:02
77 games. You think better or worse for
15:04
Kenkne this year?
15:06
>> Better for sure. Definitely definitely
15:08
30 goals.
15:09
>> All right. Yeah, I I I agree. You know,
15:11
I want one of his biggest fans out
15:14
there. So, um yeah. Uh depends on where
15:16
he plays, but I think he'll have a
15:17
better year as well. I think a lot of
15:19
these these guys will have a better year
15:21
for the Flyers as they looked they
15:23
looked a lot better shooting the puck
15:24
and better generating chances in the
15:26
preseason.
15:27
>> Boy, I'll say and like if TK's on the
15:30
quote unquote third line with D'vorak
15:32
and Bump D'vorak, I know you have your
15:34
hang-ups about him, but he's a competent
15:36
NHL center. I think
15:38
>> yes, we can agree on that.
15:40
>> I think that like, you know, it's not
15:42
like you're sticking a Michael Raf kind
15:44
of guy here, you know? So, I I think
15:47
it'll work out just fine.
15:49
>> Yeah. Uh, all right. Going down now to
15:52
number 14. Another part of the
15:54
leadership group, captain Sean Couttori.
15:56
Uh, Couture kind of revitalized a bit
15:58
last year late in the season on the
16:01
fourth line. Had 12 goals, 36 points in
16:04
78 games. He's looked pretty good so far
16:07
in the preseason. Him Achari's had more
16:10
scoring chances in two preseason games
16:12
than Haway had all of last year. So I
16:15
I've been excited by that line whether
16:17
it's you know Wilson played with them
16:18
for a game Grundstrom might be there to
16:21
start the or could see Barky there or
16:23
Bump as well but yeah I think as long as
16:26
Couttoriier stays healthy we're looking
16:28
for another you know gives you 12 15
16:31
minutes a night kills penalties wins
16:33
important faceoffs just doesn't doesn't
16:36
live up to his contract expectations but
16:38
you know what you're going to get now
16:40
from Couttoriier as well
16:42
>> 40 points would be a dream from Shan
16:44
Couturier, I think. Um,
16:46
>> yeah.
16:47
>> No, I I like him in the fourth line
16:49
center position. We also know he's
16:51
capable of playing up the lineup if
16:53
there's injuries or if he,
16:56
you know, it's there's the risk like,
16:57
oh, Sean Coutur is really cooking right
16:59
now. Let's give him more minutes. Let's
17:00
move him up the lineup. But then, are
17:02
you trading off his effectiveness by
17:04
giving him more minutes for like weeks
17:06
at a time? So, I don't know if if like
17:09
Christian D'vorak gets injured or Noah
17:10
Kates gets injured or something, you
17:12
could
17:13
>> comfortably play him as the third line
17:14
center a little any higher than that for
17:17
a prolonged period of time. It's getting
17:19
a little dicey.
17:20
>> Yeah. And yeah, Charie could slot over
17:22
to center. He wins faceoffs, too. And
17:24
you move Ctori up to to the third line
17:26
if uh if you have to there.
17:27
>> Barky at center if you want to get crazy
17:29
with it.
17:30
>> Yeah. All right. Then number 17, new
17:33
number this year for Nikita Grabbankin.
17:35
Um, Grabbankin missed the last preseason
17:38
game. He was banged up in the game
17:39
before that. Rick Tocket said it wasn't
17:42
related to what kept him out uh ended
17:44
his season back in March. Uh, last year
17:46
played 55 games, four goals, 14 points
17:50
for Grabben. Um, I don't know. I I feel
17:53
like Gbankin, everyone loves Grabbankin
17:56
and thinks he deserves better playing
17:58
time than he gets. I agree, but like I
18:01
think he's just a a bottom six winger,
18:03
fun to have. we'll drop the gloves and
18:05
like can hopefully chip in, you know,
18:07
yeah, 14, 20, maybe 25 points
18:09
offensively.
18:10
>> That's exactly what I'm looking for. I
18:12
want to see him stay healthy. Um,
18:15
you know, 20 points would be great. 25
18:18
great. Um, I love the story out of camp
18:22
where he was begging the teammates to
18:24
hit him and they just wouldn't do it and
18:26
he stormed into Tak's office and he's
18:28
like, "Tell them to hit me. I want them
18:29
to hit me." And then in a preseason
18:31
game, he just goes out and buries a guy
18:32
because he's like, "Well, I got to do
18:34
this. I got to take it upon myself."
18:36
>> Um, he's good vibes. I I love his uh his
18:39
kind of cheerful crazy guy energy. Um,
18:42
>> yeah,
18:43
>> fourth fourth line, maybe third line if
18:45
he pops, but
18:47
>> and he he brings the energy. So, like I
18:50
I wouldn't hate putting him on a top six
18:52
line for a game or two if you're trying
18:54
to get something sparked or trying some
18:56
new combinations elsewhere if he has to
18:58
uh fill in there for for injuries or or
19:01
whatnot.
19:01
>> Maybe him and Mechov have that Russian
19:03
chemistry or something.
19:05
>> Yeah, maybe
19:05
>> could get something going.
19:07
>> Uh all right, I think Phil might spend a
19:09
few a few minutes here on number 20,
19:11
Alex Bump. Um, last year Bump was kind
19:14
of pencled into the lineup after a
19:16
strong development camp with Tyson
19:18
Forester hurt.
19:19
>> Uh, didn't have a good training camp.
19:21
Played ended up playing 17 games, scored
19:24
five goals with nine assists. Uh, also
19:27
played six playoff games with two goals
19:30
there. Um, like I said on that line with
19:33
D'vorak and KKnne, which right now is
19:35
listed as the second line, but he did
19:39
not look good on in Saturday night's
19:41
game. was one of the one of the worst
19:43
skaters, which you know, a lot of Flyers
19:44
had had good nights. A few guys had very
19:46
bad nights including Bump. And I've been
19:50
down on Bump most of the off season, and
19:53
the preseason hasn't really helped that
19:55
for me.
19:56
>> Okay. I I think I think he's just going
20:00
through like young player ups and downs.
20:02
I'm not ready to write him off. Um I
20:06
think with Barky hurt, he was making
20:08
this team. Like, no doubt in my mind. Um
20:12
this season
20:14
I don't know how many goals did you say
20:16
he had? Eight goals last season.
20:17
>> He had uh five goals and then two in the
20:19
playoffs. Yeah,
20:20
>> five and two in the playoffs. I'd love
20:22
to see him hit 15, maybe 20, but uh he's
20:26
going to need minutes for that and
20:29
he has until Barky is healthy to prove
20:31
that he deserves those minutes.
20:33
>> I don't necessarily agree. Like I think
20:35
he's in the lineup no matter what. Like
20:37
I I I know I said during camp, you know,
20:40
maybe he could get sent down, but
20:42
>> like I think they would put either him
20:44
or Barky on the fourth line, put
20:47
Grundstrom out of the lineup and then
20:49
send Wilson down.
20:50
>> You'd put Bump or You'd put Bump.
20:53
>> Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
20:55
>> Maybe Bump does does actually get sent
20:56
down. I I would not mind seeing that.
20:59
Send him to the AHL. Piss him off. See
21:01
if he can go down there. Tell him,
21:02
"Okay, work. Show us. show us you
21:04
deserve to be called back up when we
21:06
need some scoring. Like he's on the
21:08
second power play unit right now. Um
21:10
maybe he can get to 15 and 20 goals, but
21:12
I think it depends a lot on who he's
21:15
playing with and finding chemistry with
21:17
with those guys because Bump, you know,
21:19
he likes carrying the puck. He likes
21:21
shooting the puck, but the Flyers have a
21:23
lot of guys like that. Like you can't
21:25
put him with Tippet.
21:26
>> I think he might work with Kknney and
21:28
D'vorak. Kneknney likes making, you
21:30
know, little little smart passing plays.
21:32
Maybe Bump can capitalize on those. But
21:35
yeah, if Barky once Barky's healthy,
21:37
Grabbankin's healthy, we'll see what the
21:40
Flyers end up doing. And we'll see what
21:41
they end up doing in a few hours with
21:43
their uh final roster.
21:45
>> I do think he could find success with
21:47
Coutier. Like Coutier, for all his
21:49
words, is still a pretty smart hockey
21:50
player and can find players with a good
21:53
pass.
21:55
I think he could set up Alex Bump from
21:57
time to time. I don't hate that. I don't
21:59
hate the idea of bump on the fourth line
22:01
because I know last year it was like
22:02
well do you want him getting fourth line
22:04
minutes when he should be in the top
22:06
nine like that's the only place to
22:07
develop and there's like a stylistic fit
22:09
does he fit on the fourth line after
22:12
seeing the way that Couturier has
22:14
changed his game and plays on the fourth
22:16
line now I think I think the fourth line
22:19
is open to the younger players for like
22:22
a de for a role I I don't think they
22:24
have that Haway ables's identity
22:28
you know, the the Delore
22:31
halfway line. Yeah. The D.
22:33
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's not that same
22:36
aggressiveness. They've kind of
22:40
there's more skill on the fourth line
22:41
now than there might have been early
22:43
last year.
22:43
>> Yeah. And I know Couture played up the
22:46
lineup some last year, but Coreier
22:47
played 1246 at five on five per game.
22:50
That was more than Mechoff, obviously,
22:52
more than Kates, a minute more than
22:54
Kate's per game. So, even if Bump is on
22:57
the the quote unquote fourth line, he's
22:59
not going to be getting seven minutes a
23:00
night. He'll be getting double that,
23:02
including some some power play time with
23:04
his shot.
23:05
>> Absolutely.
23:06
>> Yeah.
23:07
>> Uh, right down to number 22, Christian
23:11
D'vorak. Uh, on the on the first year of
23:14
his new contract here.
23:16
>> D'vorak's really really just a guy. It's
23:19
uh had a contract, had a career year
23:21
last year. 18 goals, 51 points in 80
23:25
games. His previous careerhigh was 38.
23:28
Uh also had 18 goals in that year. So
23:31
tied his careerh high last year. Uh
23:34
thrived a lot playing with Trevor
23:36
Ziggress, who he probably won't be
23:37
playing with now if Ziggris is playing
23:40
center. But D'vorak is this team's two.
23:43
May maybe Kates overtakes him a bit. But
23:46
I think Takit likes having Kates as the
23:49
matchup center in a D'vorak kind of as a
23:51
do-it-all center. And if he's playing
23:55
with Kknney and Bump or Kknne and
23:57
someone better than Bump on his other
23:58
side, he can probably get 50 points a
24:01
game. But
24:01
>> yeah,
24:02
>> you know. Yeah. And so what do you think
24:04
of D'vor? I feel like you have a better
24:07
better grasp on him.
24:08
>> What if he just does this again? Maybe
24:10
not 51, but 45 points next year. What if
24:13
he just puts up 45 points, 15 goals, 30
24:16
assists?
24:17
>> That's fine. That's fine.
24:20
>> That's what I want. That's all I need.
24:22
>> I'm not happy with it. I'm not not
24:24
upset. It's just it's fine.
24:27
>> I've gotten over the contract because
24:30
the whole thing with the contract was
24:32
they should have kept him, you know,
24:33
maybe dangled him at the trade deadline.
24:35
And if they did that and traded him,
24:37
they don't make the playoffs. They don't
24:38
win around. We don't have all those fun
24:40
memories. the the and also the players
24:43
developing, getting those important
24:44
games in the playoffs. So, um I'm going
24:48
to go easier on Christian D'vorak this
24:50
year unless he uh proves otherwise.
24:53
>> Yeah, I think he'll be just fine. I I'm
24:56
not asking the world here. I don't need
24:58
a 65.2C out of Christian D'vorak. I just
25:01
need a guy who's effective in his
25:03
minutes and can get the puck to the
25:05
young players he's playing with. That's
25:07
>> he'll do that. It looks like right now
25:10
he's not on the power play. They have
25:12
Kates as the second unit center. So that
25:14
should help him out at five on five.
25:16
Help him out on the PK as well. Keep him
25:18
fresh for that type of stuff.
25:20
>> Nice.
25:22
>> Uh speaking of number 27, Noah Kates. Uh
25:25
last year also had a great season. 18
25:28
goals, 47 points, both careerh highs for
25:30
him. Played in all 82 games. and looks
25:34
like he might be ready to, you know,
25:36
repeat that or possibly improve upon
25:38
that, especially given where he is in
25:40
the lineup right now. Pencil in with
25:42
Tyson Forester, who he's had success
25:44
with before. And he got Mad Van Mechoff
25:47
on that right side, who Mitchkov just
25:49
looked incredible in both of his
25:51
preseason games. Late in the one on
25:53
Saturday, he tried for the Michigan and
25:55
just missed the net. The goalie got
25:57
over, but there was there was a hole
25:59
there for him to uh do it there. He was
26:01
trying to give the fans something to uh
26:03
something to enjoy there. And you know,
26:05
Mitchkov down year last year, still got
26:07
20 goals, 51 points. I I think he could
26:11
go point per game this year. I I really
26:13
do.
26:13
>> Kates.
26:15
>> Oh, I'm sorry. I was thinking I'm sorry.
26:16
I was I I went off went off about Beach.
26:19
Kates. No, I think Sorry. Yeah, Kates.
26:22
Kates I think can get to 45 50 points
26:24
again. Be a great defensive center
26:27
similar to D'vorak. Like that that
26:28
that's all I want. I think he gets 50
26:31
and uh I think he gets top 10 Selki
26:34
votes at the end of this season.
26:37
>> That would uh that would be good. Has he
26:39
gotten Selki? He got placed 11th last
26:42
year. So maybe if he gets 50 points,
26:44
plays with Mechov is on the receiving
26:47
end of some of Mikov's passes. Maybe he
26:49
he gets in some highlights gets on some
26:51
uh some voters minds.
26:52
>> Sets up some Tyson Forester one-times.
26:55
>> Oh yeah, baby. Yeah, baby.
26:57
>> Oh yeah.
26:57
>> Uh all right. Now down to number 39,
27:00
Batman Mechov. Just talked about him a
27:03
bit there. Uh so Joe, what do you think
27:04
about about Matty Meech this year?
27:06
>> You said point a game. I think I'm right
27:08
there with you. Um pace pace. I think
27:12
he's going to get hurt at some point and
27:14
miss like six games, but he he'd pace
27:18
for point a game if he were healthy. Um
27:20
>> well, you can you can still be a point
27:22
per game if you don't play 82 games.
27:24
>> You just just have to have more points
27:26
than games played. I suppose that's
27:28
true. I think he'll have
27:33
I'm going to say 80 points. I'm going to
27:34
say he's 80 points, but he only plays
27:37
like
27:38
81 games or something stupid like that.
27:41
You'll be like, "Oh, he was so close.
27:43
>> Just under." Yeah. I don't think our
27:45
good friends at FanDuel have any Matt
27:46
Bichkov odds up as of yet, but they can
27:49
be found elsewhere. Other sport books
27:51
are out there. And yeah, they're I think
27:53
I saw around 60 or 65 points is you know
27:57
what kind of they're expecting 25 30
27:59
goals which yeah seems very reasonable
28:02
to expect that from each and get this
28:05
power play going. He had four power play
28:07
goals last year only eight power plays
28:09
play assists like he I think he could
28:11
easily double those and that's another
28:13
12 points. Um he he looks amazing. He
28:17
has the fitness he he's in in in shape.
28:20
He's, you know, moving around the
28:22
offensive zone, getting double shifted
28:24
at times, staying on the ice for long
28:26
shifts, and not losing much. And that
28:28
really is what the key is.
28:30
>> I noticed that in the uh the last game
28:33
when the Flyers had the double. No, no,
28:35
no. It wasn't the double power play.
28:37
They just had a regular power play.
28:38
First unit goes off. Mechov stays on
28:40
with the second power play for like an
28:42
extra sh like an extra 20 seconds or so
28:46
before he can get off the ice. And he
28:47
still looked like he was cooking in the
28:49
offensive zone. So, I'm I've got pretty
28:53
high hopes for him this season. He looks
28:55
ready. Playing with Tyson Forester would
28:58
be great cuz Tyson Forester is such a
29:00
scoring threat that it kind of takes a
29:01
bit of heat off of Mattfe. Um,
29:05
yeah, borderline point a game. 65 points
29:07
seems I would bet the over. I bet the
29:10
over on 65.
29:12
>> Yeah. And if he's with Kates and
29:14
Forester, those two guys can do the
29:16
heavy lifting defensively, allowing
29:18
Mechov to maybe cheat a little bit more,
29:20
maybe just, you know, just look look up
29:22
ice a little bit sooner and, you know,
29:24
knowing if if Kates and Forester are in
29:28
like a board battle, they're probably
29:30
winning that puck so he can try to try
29:32
to get going the other direction.
29:33
>> They'll get a I would imagine they get a
29:35
lot of offensive zone starts simply
29:37
because they're not the fastest line.
29:39
>> Yeah.
29:40
>> Like those are not the fastest skaters.
29:42
So, you know, you start them in the
29:44
offensive zone. Kates wins a face off
29:45
and you just start
29:47
>> you just get to work. I like
29:48
>> they might use them in the because if
29:50
they're playing matchups, they might use
29:52
them in the defensive zone as two as two
29:54
of their best defensive forwards.
29:56
>> I Yes. But also, do you want Matt Veov
29:59
turning into the Bobby Brink uh for
30:02
checking or like checking forward? That
30:04
would be fun. I'm not opposed to it, but
30:06
I'd rather him do a bit more work in the
30:08
offensive zone.
30:10
>> Yeah. And we'll see what the lines are
30:12
when Barky's back. If they move Forester
30:14
up for bump and because Barky and Beach
30:16
Golf played
30:17
>> a lot together last or in in the
30:19
preseason in training camp as well.
30:21
>> They had they have a good chemistry
30:22
going. It's a small line, but
30:24
>> yeah, it could work.
30:26
>> It could work.
30:27
>> Um number 46, Trevor Zagris, of course,
30:30
had the uh resurgent year last year. 67
30:33
points, 26 goals in 81 games. uh played
30:37
center for the home stretch there and
30:39
into the playoffs. Is uh expected to be
30:42
the team's first line center right now.
30:44
Has Owen Tippet and Porter Martone on
30:46
his wings. Uh he's on that on that top
30:49
power play. Him and Mitchkov both there
30:52
on the right side, which I which I like.
30:54
I think they're going to need a little
30:55
bit of time to find some chemistry, know
30:58
what plays work and when to go for
31:00
things. But I like that a lot. And I
31:03
really like that Takit has him at center
31:05
to start the year.
31:06
Absolutely. Uh I think he cracked 75
31:09
points. I think he's going to score 30
31:11
goals. Ziggris is darn good. He was
31:16
great at set, excuse me, he was great at
31:17
center. Um they've reunited him and
31:20
Mishkov on the power play. There's so
31:22
much opportunity for offense there.
31:25
I I think he just keeps building on last
31:28
year's resurgence.
31:30
>> Yeah. I I think I don't want to see him
31:33
and Mechov together at five on five.
31:35
Like a lot of people are like, "Okay,
31:36
let's load up a line. Let's go tip it
31:38
tip it Ziggris Mitchkoff at five on
31:40
five." But I don't know. I think
31:42
Ziggress and Mkov can both work in the
31:44
offensive zone together, but otherwise
31:47
it might be tough.
31:48
>> I I agree. I'd say power play is like if
31:51
they can show on the power play that
31:53
they don't I hate I hate to say step on
31:56
each other's toes, but a lot of the best
31:59
work they do is with the puck,
32:00
>> but there's only one puck. So, it's
32:02
like, you know, at five on five, how do
32:05
you balance that? So, I I guess the
32:08
power play is kind of the uh you know,
32:10
the testing zone. Like, let's see if
32:12
this works. And if it works on the man
32:14
advantage, maybe we do try it at even
32:16
strength.
32:17
>> Absolutely. Yeah. And I I do wonder if
32:19
having cuz Ziggress on the power play,
32:22
he's good with the puck, but he also
32:23
scored on a few of those one-times as
32:25
well. And if Meechov is like below him
32:29
down there more, Meeichov can't feed him
32:31
for one-times. So, I wonder if they
32:33
experiment with like Mechov maybe going
32:35
on the other side or like playing it
32:36
behind the net more um to to open up to
32:39
one-times.
32:40
>> And Tak told Mechov this summer, yo,
32:42
work on your one-time. Work on
32:44
>> work on that shot. So, we'll you can
32:48
only have one guy taking that shot at a
32:49
time. You can't you can't set them both
32:51
up for it.
32:52
>> No. No. All right. down to number 52
32:56
null Achari out there. Uh last year with
32:59
the Penguins was great in the playoffs
33:01
winning faceoffs against the Flyers and
33:03
now the Flyers are hoping that he can
33:05
bring that to them. Going to be going to
33:07
be similar
33:08
>> against Trevor Ziggress specifically
33:10
>> against Trevor Ziggress. Yeah. And it
33:12
was also him that that uh Trevor
33:14
Ziggress, you know, late in the overtime
33:16
game against the Penguins where Zegris
33:18
got a penalty at the end and couldn't
33:20
play in the shootout. It was a Achari
33:22
and Zagris were were going at each
33:24
other. So,
33:25
>> is that when Ziggris ripped the helmet
33:27
off of him while he was in the pile?
33:28
Yeah. Okay. I didn't realize that was
33:30
Achari.
33:30
>> Yeah, because Achari was asked about it
33:32
and and kind of laughed it off during
33:33
his uh press conference over the summer.
33:36
Um,
33:36
>> love it.
33:37
>> Yeah. Yeah. Chari last year almost a
33:40
career year. 13 goals, 25 points in 67
33:44
games. Only had 12 points in 79 games
33:46
the year prior and seven points in 55
33:49
games the year before that. So don't
33:51
expect double digit goals or or 25
33:53
points, but he can get there, especially
33:56
if Couttoriier is playing well as the
33:58
fourth line center and depends who that
34:00
other winger is. But he just seems like
34:02
a good grinder. He's had some scoring
34:05
chances already early on, can win
34:07
faceoffs, good defensively, will kill
34:09
penalties. Basically, Garnett Hathaway
34:13
and Luke Glenn Denning combined into one
34:15
is Nolachari.
34:17
>> Yeah, I I thought it was a solid
34:19
signing. I know people were like, "Well,
34:21
why are we starting another fourth line
34:22
grinder here?" Blah, blah, blah. Look,
34:25
having a good fourth line is way more
34:28
important than people give it credit
34:29
for. We saw how bad this team was last
34:31
year with the dab line and uh or what?
34:34
Yeah. What did you call it? The theor
34:38
D. Yeah,
34:40
>> the DA line was uh brutal and uh it's
34:45
important to have strong for a strong
34:48
fourth line. So, I'm excited to see what
34:50
he can do this season.
34:52
>> Yeah. Yeah.
34:54
All right. Down to number 71 here. Tyson
34:58
Forester coming into to the season with
35:01
a full healthy off seasonason for the
35:03
first time in a long time last year. 13
35:06
goals, 17 points in 29 games. Uh, one
35:09
goal in 10 playoff games, but he was on
35:12
a tear before unfortunately tearing his
35:14
arm against the Penguins in early
35:16
December. and then uh came back earlier
35:18
than expected and helped them make the
35:21
playoffs ultimately. And you know, he
35:23
was pacing for 39 goals last year. He
35:26
has to get to 30 this year, right?
35:28
>> I think he even gets 35. I I
35:31
>> I think he sails past 30 and gets 35. Um
35:34
is he on power play one right now?
35:36
>> He is. He's in the trigger spot. Yeah.
35:39
>> Love it. Um,
35:41
yeah, I think this is I think this is
35:43
the year that the league is like, "Oh,
35:46
the Flyers have this really good Tyson
35:48
Forester guy." Um, there was an article
35:50
in the Athletic a couple weeks ago. I
35:52
think maybe we did talk about it. It's
35:54
like, "Every team has a Zegris. Every
35:55
team has a Forester." And I'm like,
35:57
"Have you watched Tyson Forester play
35:59
hockey? There's no way." Like, he is
36:03
>> not every team has that guy.
36:04
>> No, definitely not. So, yeah, expect
36:06
expecting big things from Forester this
36:08
year. And I think the talk of him being
36:10
injuryprone is kind of overblown. Yeah.
36:13
>> Um but you know, you have to see it
36:16
after having two arm injuries in the
36:18
span of, you know, six months or seven
36:20
months, whatever that was. And you know,
36:22
signed that contract in the offseason,
36:23
7.1 million for eight years. He is on
36:26
the final final year at that $3.75
36:28
million capit. So that looks even better
36:31
this year.
36:31
>> I'm also going to make my prediction
36:33
here that he leads the team in goals.
36:36
I mean, if he gets 35, I I would I would
36:39
hope so, but yeah,
36:40
>> you never know. You never know. Ziggers
36:41
could like the Flyers have so many guys
36:44
that could get 30 35 goals.
36:45
>> I I this is going to sound goofy, but I
36:48
think maybe five players could crack 30
36:50
goals this year that there's the
36:51
potential for that.
36:53
>> Yeah. Forester, Zegris, Beach, Mart,
36:56
there's five
36:59
>> or six. Yeah.
37:00
>> Yeah. That's and and yeah, that's that
37:02
that's speaking with orange tinted
37:04
glasses with if those guys reach their
37:06
potential. But like yeah, it's
37:09
if they can play better more
37:13
aggressively offensively now that
37:15
they've kind of got their defensive
37:16
pocket hockey systems down,
37:19
>> hopefully they can uh open up some goal
37:20
scoring
37:21
>> and play 80 plus games. That would
37:23
>> Yes, that would go.
37:24
>> Staying healthy would would help as
37:26
well. And uh speaking of him, number 74,
37:28
Owen Tippet. Um, you know, he's been
37:31
waiting to take that next step for a few
37:33
years now. Had a great rush. I think it
37:36
was on on Saturday. Made a power move to
37:38
the net. Lindren just stoned him there
37:41
last year. 28 goals, tied a careerhigh,
37:44
>> 51 points in 81 games. Uh, then had two
37:48
points in six playoff games, and of
37:50
course had that core injury um that kept
37:54
him out of the Hurricane series. Are you
37:56
worried that that core injury could uh
37:58
impact him this year?
38:00
>> Didn't look like it in preeason. Um, I'm
38:03
not too worried. I think I think
38:06
posttrade deadline Owen Tippet is here
38:09
to stay. He was unstoppable after he
38:12
realized he was going to be on the
38:13
Flyers for the rest of the year. Um, I
38:16
think that play carries over.
38:19
I'm not worried about the core injury
38:21
too much. I he looks he looks just as
38:25
good in preeason. And even if he does
38:27
lose a quarter of a step, he's still one
38:30
of the fastest players in the league.
38:31
Like it's not it's not
38:35
>> it's not a hindrance I'm worried about
38:36
where Sean Couturio was already not the
38:39
fastest skater and now he looks really
38:42
he looks like he's waiting through 4
38:45
foot deep water out there, you know.
38:47
>> Yeah. And Tippet has a good shot, too.
38:49
So even if he's not the fastest fastest
38:51
skater, he can still might make some
38:53
work there with uh with his shot,
38:55
especially if he's with Ziggress and
38:56
Martone. Like like Ziggress and Martone
38:58
can can definitely help set him up, can
39:01
be passing options for him if he does
39:03
have the puck, which gives the goalie
39:05
another thing to think about. So yeah,
39:07
Tippet, hopefully this is finally the
39:09
year, age 27, where he can uh he can go
39:12
off.
39:13
>> I'm stoked.
39:14
>> Yeah. Um
39:15
>> he breaks 30 this year. He breaks 30
39:17
this year. I'm calling it. Yeah, it's
39:19
kind of surprising he's not on the top
39:20
power play unit. Like he may get there
39:22
eventually, but I I like the look of the
39:24
uh the top one, but like having
39:26
Connectne and Tippet both on on this on
39:28
the second unit should give them uh some
39:30
good looks, too.
39:31
>> I think part of it for me is that Tippet
39:34
is not the greatest playmaker. And when
39:37
you're trying to like get a cycle going
39:39
in the offensive zone, I don't know if
39:40
Tippet's like the strongest candidate
39:42
you could have for that. When your other
39:44
options are Martone, Meichov, Zegris,
39:48
who you take out, Forester? Like
39:50
Forester is the better shot from that
39:52
trigger position, and he can win board
39:55
battles a lot better than Owen Tippet
39:56
can. It just
39:57
>> I I think it's just a fit thing.
39:59
>> Yeah, Tippet's great off the rush. He's
40:01
a oneman zone entry on the power play,
40:03
but then after that, it's like you said,
40:05
he doesn't fit as well as as those four
40:08
forwards do.
40:09
>> Uh, right. Number 86 now, Denver Barky.
40:13
Um Barky kind of surprised a lot of
40:16
people last year in his first proseason.
40:18
Got called up because Christian D'vorak
40:20
got hurt and then just stayed up. Uh
40:23
five goals, 17 points in 43 games, two
40:26
points in 10 playoff games, including
40:28
playing center there towards the end
40:31
with Noah Kates out. He does have is a
40:34
lower body injury right now. Have they
40:36
have they said what what Denver Barky is
40:38
uh dealing with? I think they did say it
40:41
was lower body, but I don't remember.
40:45
They were very clear that it's not that
40:47
serious. He might miss like a game or
40:49
two, but not
40:51
>> cuz if they put him on IR, it would have
40:54
to be backdated to tomorrow, right?
40:56
>> And then he'd have to miss seven days.
40:59
>> Yeah. I I I'm not I always get confused
41:03
about the IR rules at the beginning of
41:05
the season,
41:05
>> right? But um
41:06
>> like you can't put someone on IR that
41:08
started in preeason and then that counts
41:11
as the seven days that they need to be
41:13
on IR. So they'd have to put him on
41:16
tomorrow
41:17
>> and then he would have to miss seven
41:19
days.
41:20
>> Yeah. And the Flyers play the Flyers
41:22
play four games in six days. So you
41:24
don't want him missing missing four
41:26
games. And they can they can carry him
41:28
as an extra
41:29
>> because they have Wilson or whoever.
41:31
>> Yeah, they've got I'm We talked about it
41:33
last week. I'm not worried about the
41:34
forward depth. Like they'd have to lose
41:36
three guys in game one for me to be like
41:39
concerned about it. So if Barky misses,
41:42
if he has to miss a week, he misses a
41:44
week. It's fine. They'll they'll deal
41:45
with it.
41:46
>> Exactly. Don't panic if the roster if
41:48
five o'clock comes and it's like, "Oh,
41:50
Denver Bark's on IR. Oh no, what
41:51
happened? I thought he was day today."
41:53
No, he'll be he'll be fine. Um do you do
41:57
you see him playing on the third line
41:59
mostly with with Kates and Mechov? You
42:00
think that's where he'll be? think he'll
42:02
be more of a fourthline guy this year?
42:05
Like what do you what do you expect from
42:06
Parks?
42:07
>> I think Tak will put him with on
42:09
whichever line needs a bit of a spark.
42:12
Uh like last year he played on the wing
42:16
with Couturier and maybe maybe it was
42:20
Kknney or Tippet. I can't remember what
42:22
line he was initially on, but he made
42:24
Couturier look real good just because he
42:28
brought the energy that had been missing
42:30
for a while. So yeah, I I don't know.
42:33
He'll play he'll play wherever
42:37
the guys need a jump.
42:39
>> I wouldn't mind maybe seeing him with
42:41
D'vorak because he did play well with
42:43
that Ctori Tippet. That was a great line
42:46
at driving play.
42:48
>> Barky connect. Barky Barky. Nope.
42:51
>> Barky.
42:52
>> Barky Kneny.
42:54
D'vorak would be a pretty fun line.
42:57
>> Yeah. I guess the question people would
42:58
have is who's scoring on that line, but
43:00
I guess it's
43:02
>> But that's what that's what the TK
43:04
haters are saying. Who's gonna score on
43:05
that line? Knew never comes up big in
43:07
the big moments.
43:08
>> Okay, first of all, Travis Kneknney is
43:10
usually playing on a top line or even a
43:12
second line role. So, he's getting
43:13
matched up against higher like like a
43:17
team's better players. If you have
43:19
Travis Kknney getting third line
43:20
matchups, dude, he is going to cook
43:23
everybody he comes up against. that tak
43:27
mentioned that in a presser a couple
43:28
weeks ago. He's like, "Can you imagine
43:30
having Travis Connectne on your third
43:31
line? What a what a luxury."
43:34
>> Yeah.
43:34
>> So, no, I' I'd be cool. And Barky can
43:37
score. He gets to the net. He does the
43:39
things you need to do
43:41
>> to score at the NHL.
43:43
>> Yes.
43:43
>> Which is get your ass to the net.
43:45
>> Yeah. Yeah. All right. Going down to
43:48
number 91 now. Carl Grundstrom. Uh,
43:54
>> I just want to take this time, you know,
43:55
a a find off the scrap peep by by Danny
43:58
Brriier uh for the for the Ryan Ellis
44:01
contract there. 13 points, nine goals
44:04
last year. Scored a big goal against the
44:06
Hurricanes. I remember specifically in
44:09
the third period. Hurricanes had just
44:11
taken a lead. Carl came back and tied it
44:13
and I think they lost in the shootout,
44:15
but you know, an important goal for them
44:17
to get there. um cleared through
44:19
waiverss which you know kind of expected
44:22
but good guy to have a good guy to have
44:25
that as your 12th 13th forward you can
44:28
you can cycle him in if he sits for a
44:31
week or two that you don't you don't
44:33
like it but that's fine like so yeah
44:35
Carl just a perfectly chromulent
44:37
fourthliner
44:38
>> I am a big Carl fan I'm glad he's still
44:41
here um do you know who currently has
44:45
the Ryan Ellis contract there's one year
44:47
left on
44:48
Oh, it's Chicago, is it not?
44:49
>> It is the Blackhawks. Yeah. One more
44:51
year of Ryan Ellis and on the Chicago
44:54
Blackhawks. It was a great four games,
44:57
man. It was a great four games.
44:58
>> It really was. And of course, Gruntstrom
45:00
a part of the infamous gag line last
45:02
year, Gbankin, Obles, and uh Gruntstrom,
45:06
of course, as the as the third one
45:08
there.
45:10
>> Ables went back to Latia, right? Like
45:11
he's
45:12
>> he Yeah, he he went overseas somewhere.
45:14
Probably back to Lia. Yeah. So, best
45:17
wishes to uh Rodrigo Apples. No, he's
45:19
playing uh for FC Burn in the Swiss
45:21
National League, which uh
45:22
>> How about that?
45:23
>> Yes, that's that's a pretty good league.
45:25
So, yeah, good for uh good for Apples
45:26
there.
45:26
>> It's just sucks for him because he was
45:28
about to go to the Olympics and then
45:29
>> Yeah, leg that was the worst part.
45:31
>> That's right. Anyway,
45:33
>> all right, last but certainly not least
45:35
on forwards here is number 94, Porter
45:39
Martone. Um Porter Martone, not a very
45:41
good um preseason, Joe. He's one of the
45:44
guys I expected to jump off the page
45:45
more. This is not me hating, but um I
45:49
wonder if he wasn't Canadian if maybe
45:50
some people would be worried about it.
45:53
[laughter]
45:54
>> I think I think what's going to happen
45:57
is he's going to take some time to get
45:59
warmed up. Like we take for granted that
46:02
he joined this team right after
46:04
finishing his NCAA career. So he'd been
46:08
playing for months, comes in in the
46:11
middle of a playoff race. there's a ton
46:12
of adrenaline. So, I wonder if it's just
46:14
going to take a couple weeks for him to
46:16
ramp up to what we saw at the end of
46:17
last season. Um, which is fine. It's
46:21
>> rookie year. Uh, understandable. But
46:23
you're right, it was not the most
46:26
it wasn't like Meechov's first camp
46:29
where you're like, "Oh, dang. This is
46:31
this is a guy."
46:33
>> Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I I say that
46:34
tongue and cheek. Like, Marone is going
46:36
to be fine. I'm not worried about him
46:38
whatsoever. He did hit the post on
46:40
Thursday night um on a onetime. So if
46:42
that went in, you know, we talk about
46:43
Okay, he had a goal in two games. Looks
46:46
like he he's uh ready to go. Let me see
46:48
how many
46:48
>> He stirred some [Β __Β ] too, which was
46:50
always which is fun. I
46:52
>> I appreciate what a [Β __Β ] stir he is.
46:54
It's uh he'll need to learn a little bit
46:57
about like what line there is and what
47:00
he can cross. As long as he doesn't tuck
47:02
his jersey in, I think he'll be okay
47:04
though.
47:06
Yeah, that's why I liked him with Kknney
47:08
on on a line together because those two
47:09
would just go at it and like KKnne has
47:11
the respect of the refs where like he
47:14
they might not take Martone as easily,
47:17
but you can't complain about about him
47:19
being with Ziggress and Tippet.
47:21
>> No. And like last year when the ref just
47:24
like grabbed Marton's jersey and pulled
47:26
him out, that was
47:27
>> that was
47:27
>> weird, dude.
47:29
>> Disrespect completely. Yeah. Yeah. But
47:31
Martone Yeah. last year. 10 points in
47:33
nine games, five points, two goals in 10
47:36
playoff games. Scored the game-winning
47:38
goal in his first two games there
47:40
against the Penguins. Um, what are we
47:42
expecting points wise from from Mart.
47:44
What are we expecting goals points? 25,
47:46
30, 55, 60 points.
47:49
>> I was going to say about 25 goals. Um,
47:52
I think he's the big wild card of the
47:55
top nine forwards. I I know that's I
47:58
feel like Bump or Barky might be more
48:00
considered the wild card, but I think
48:01
it's Martone. He's going to it's his CER
48:05
season. He's going to have moments where
48:07
he shines and then he might have games
48:08
where he struggles. And I I don't know
48:12
being coming into the league and being a
48:14
Matthew Schaefer or a Mlin Celibbrini,
48:18
that's really difficult to do.
48:19
>> Um and I don't want to set those kinds
48:21
of expectations from our tone. So, I
48:24
think he'll be good. 25 goals,
48:27
55 points, but uh I don't know. I still
48:31
think he's got a inside track on the
48:33
Calder, but Ivor Stenberg looked sick as
48:36
[Β __Β ] with the Sharks this week.
48:37
>> Steenberg had had a hat-tick and four
48:39
points. McKenna's looked great and our
48:42
good friends at FanDuel. Porter Martone
48:44
is plus 310 now to win the CER behind
48:47
Gavin McKenna for at plus 270. Steenberg
48:51
at plus 500 there.
48:53
>> That's Leaf's bias.
48:55
>> Oh, Leaf's but he's gonna be playing on
48:57
the top power play unit. He's gonna be
48:58
playing with either Matthews or or
49:00
Tavvaris and maybe Marenko if they end
49:02
up getting getting Marenko. So,
49:04
>> well, someone also uh pitched that
49:06
Veronov is somehow going to be involved
49:08
in this trade too, which would be
49:09
insane.
49:10
>> Just trading all the Russians. Yeah,
49:12
>> I guess so. They don't want to be in
49:13
Columbus. It This is a little bit off
49:15
topic, but when Warren's name was in the
49:18
market, it's like it's got to start with
49:19
Mikov. Like I don't think Columbus would
49:21
want Mechov. He's not signed. They're
49:24
losing one Russian. Like there's no way
49:27
that they would take Mechov without a
49:29
contract in place. So
49:30
>> yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Mishkov, he
49:32
averaged uh 23 goals, 58 points per 82
49:35
games in his first two years. I think
49:38
that's fair to that that should be
49:39
that's the bar for Martone in his rookie
49:41
year. I think 23 goals, 58 points. Get
49:44
around there and we're happy.
49:46
>> Yeah, I think that sounds exactly right.
49:49
Yeah. Uh, right. Let's now go down to
49:53
the blue line with the defenseman. Um,
49:56
he's on the roster on the Flyers
49:58
website, so we're just going to mention
49:59
him here. Number three, Hgrons. He would
50:02
have been sent down already if he wasn't
50:03
injured.
50:04
>> Yep.
50:04
>> Um, unfortunately wasn't really able to
50:07
make anything of his chance with the
50:09
Flyers or the Phantoms. Just looks like
50:11
kind of a AHL coming.
50:13
>> Yep. I Hey, he was part of the prover
50:16
trade package. You take that swing, you
50:17
take that flyer. see see what happens.
50:20
And if you just get a steady AHL player,
50:22
so be it.
50:24
>> Speaking of looking like an AHL, we are
50:26
down to number five. Uh David Yurichek,
50:29
who did not look good on Saturday night
50:32
and then um this he looked fine in the
50:35
first period and at the first
50:37
intermission, Danny Breier had his media
50:39
availability and said, you know, your
50:41
check made the team. It looks solid so
50:42
far in the first period. We're going to
50:44
give him a chance to prove that he
50:46
deserves to stay in the lineup, deserves
50:48
the minutes, it could be a power play
50:49
weapon, all of this. And then how and
50:52
then David Uric just completely shits
50:54
the bed the rest of the game. I wrote it
50:57
up for rosaki.com. Like I went back and
50:59
watched the highlights and looked at his
51:01
turnovers and whatnot and they were
51:03
worse than I thought. The first goal,
51:05
bad communication by Kolasov. Um the
51:08
second goal, Yurichek kind of rushed but
51:10
passed it right to the defenseman or not
51:13
the the defenseman, the the opposition.
51:15
Um he then took a high sticking penalty
51:17
that the Capitals scored on. And then on
51:20
the final goal, he was just caught
51:22
flatfooted in the neutral zone as as the
51:24
puck went past him. And that would be
51:28
tolerable if he if he shot the puck once
51:31
on the power play. That would be
51:32
tolerable. But he just did not shoot the
51:34
puck once. No one didn't even set up for
51:36
a one-timer. Just that that's what you
51:38
got. Show it. You can't show it in
51:40
practice because you don't want to hurt
51:41
your teammates, but show it in the game.
51:44
>> Yeah, it was a disappointing showing. I
51:46
know a few weeks ago we were like, "Oh,
51:48
this is going to work out. We this David
51:50
is probably going to work out." I had
51:52
higher hopes for the training camp, but
51:54
it's preseason. You know, he's made the
51:56
roster. He's going to have his
51:57
opportunities in the NHL. Um, I will say
52:00
I keep forgetting what number he's
52:02
wearing and I saw number five and I'm
52:05
like, when did Ior Zamula come back, but
52:08
who apparently is killing it back in the
52:10
KHL by the way?
52:11
>> I'm sure he is. Yeah,
52:12
>> I'm sure he is. And uh, no, I do. You
52:16
think Urchek has permanently lost that
52:18
power play two role? I know they took it
52:20
away in practice or is that just a temp
52:22
thing?
52:23
>> I think that's a temporary thing. I
52:25
think he may have lost his spot in the
52:28
open and night lineup, but because of
52:30
the schedule, he'll play probably either
52:33
Thursday on the road or in one of the
52:36
three or three of four or four of six
52:39
>> because Rick Taken said, you know, it
52:41
could be could be a rotation starting
52:43
starting the season. You have you have
52:45
Yurichek, you have Benois. Benois had
52:48
the fight in the one game. He's looked
52:49
solid. He's a guy that, you know, him
52:52
and Caler not going to generate much
52:54
offense, but you can you can trust them
52:55
defensively. He looks better than Noah
52:57
Jules out there. Um, but sticking to
53:00
your well, we'll get to that when we get
53:02
to Benois. But
53:03
>> sticking sticking to Yurichek, like he
53:06
needs a lot of improvement defensively.
53:09
I think even more than Dale needed when
53:11
he came over. So,
53:13
>> that's a bold statement. I think we have
53:16
uh forgotten how bad Jamie Dale was when
53:19
he
53:20
>> maybe Dale was just like smoother and
53:22
better skating and was more tolerable.
53:25
Maybe Dale was just better offensively
53:27
that so it was like okay he's bad
53:28
defensively but at least he does
53:30
something well and Yurichek is only on
53:33
the roster because the Flyers didn't
53:35
want to wave him.
53:36
>> Well, also with Dale, you mentioned the
53:38
skating. If a guy skates like Dryale,
53:41
he's gonna look like he's doing a lot
53:42
better of a job just because he moves
53:44
better. Um,
53:47
uh, I'm not ready to say that Urchek
53:49
looks
53:51
worse than Dale did, but again, credit
53:54
to Dale, who we'll talk about in two
53:56
players, I believe. Um,
53:57
>> yeah. And
53:58
>> so I believe in the Flyers. I believe in
54:00
the Flyers ability to get year at least
54:02
passable.
54:03
>> Yeah. And it was only preseason, but it
54:05
was it was also preseason against
54:08
AHLers, hungry AHLers if you want to,
54:10
you know, put a put a positive spin on
54:12
it for year. And like, you know, keep
54:15
him up for a little bit, rotate him in.
54:17
If he looks that bad, maybe he does
54:19
clear waiverss and no one wants to take
54:21
a chance on him. Like maybe that's
54:22
something that the Flyers can do or
54:24
Brier can call around because apparently
54:26
the Flyers are looking for defensive
54:28
depth. So, we'll see what what comes
54:29
with that as well.
54:30
>> It's a consideration. Um, I also forgot
54:32
to mention when we talked about
54:34
Grabbankin, but he's waivers exempt as
54:36
well. So, if they wanted to send
54:38
Grabbankin down to make space for
54:39
someone else, they could send him to We
54:41
We just always are talking it could be
54:43
Bump, it could be Barky, they could send
54:45
Grabbankin down and he doesn't have to
54:47
>> clear waiverss.
54:48
>> Yeah.
54:49
>> Okay.
54:49
>> Uh, number number six now, Travis
54:52
Sanheim, number one defenseman in the
54:55
NHL. um played 24 minutes a game last
54:59
season, only missed one game. I think
55:01
that was the final game of the year. Of
55:04
course, Team Canada, all that stuff
55:05
there. Um I guess the question is that
55:08
some people talk about, would you want
55:10
to see Sanheim on the second power play
55:12
unit instead of either York or or
55:14
Yurichek?
55:16
>> Um
55:18
I don't really care. Like it I don't
55:21
think it matters to me. I' I'd like to
55:22
see Uric get some runway and then if he
55:25
can't do that,
55:26
>> I don't know, man. Put Risto back up
55:28
there. See what happens.
55:29
>> He ran a power play in Buffalo for
55:31
years. Like,
55:32
>> you want to talk about who's got the
55:34
most poor? Well, they had Jack Eel, so
55:37
that helped a lot. Um,
55:39
>> I don't know, man. He has the big
55:41
booming shot. Like, I don't think
55:43
Sanheim has a cannon. He's more of a
55:46
>> he's better at like activating.
55:49
>> I don't think What? Who? Who else would
55:52
there be? York.
55:53
>> York.
55:53
>> I I don't think York.
55:55
>> He was a good power play guy with the US
55:58
development team, but guess what? He had
55:59
Jackson and you know,
56:02
>> I I don't think so. I think just if it
56:05
ain't Yurichek, whoever the hell they
56:08
want, doesn't make a difference to me.
56:10
Yeah, I think any
56:13
boost that Sanheim may provide is just
56:15
so negligible that I would rather have
56:17
him resting for those two minutes and
56:20
fresh for the 25 minutes that he plays
56:22
at five on five and penalty co for the
56:24
night.
56:24
>> Yep, 100%.
56:25
>> Uh yeah, speaking of Cam York number
56:27
eight, um Cam York gets a lot of hate,
56:30
but you know, perfectly good second pair
56:33
guy from can play first pair with
56:35
Sanheim. He's never going to be the
56:38
offensive guy that he was with the
56:41
development team and and with Michigan
56:43
and he's not going to score like Cole
56:44
Cfield does, but a a good, dare I say
56:49
disrespected, underrated second pair
56:51
defenseman, top four defenseman. I I'll
56:53
say
56:53
>> I 100% agree with you. I also think his
56:56
lack of offense is more the fact that he
56:58
gets paired with the offensive
56:59
defenseman and he just defers to his
57:03
partner more than taking the taking the
57:05
lead himself. It's why I keep spreading
57:06
the York Risto propaganda.
57:08
>> Yeah.
57:08
>> But um no, he's he's perfectly good.
57:12
>> If he just keeps doing what he's been
57:14
doing, like fine. That's a solid second
57:17
pair defenseman.
57:18
>> Good job.
57:19
>> All right. Number nine here, Jamie Dale.
57:22
I'll let you take this one. Dry guy.
57:24
>> Oh, baby. How about that goal he scored?
57:27
Beauty. I am so high on him. I think
57:30
he's going to be on the top pair with
57:31
Travis Sanheim. I think he's going to
57:32
win the Ashby for the best defenseman on
57:35
the Flyers at the Team End Awards. I I
57:39
just think he's going to torch
57:43
the opposition this year. I'm so excited
57:45
to see what he can do.
57:46
>> I I'm really excited for Dale as well.
57:49
He's 24 now, has almost 300 games of
57:52
experience, um 172 with the Flyers. He's
57:57
looked better and better each year.
57:59
There were some worries last year that
58:01
without Brad Shaw, he might take a step
58:03
back or, you know, not develop as he is,
58:06
but he just keeps getting better and
58:08
better. And I think it's, knock, I think
58:12
the power play isn't going to be bottom
58:14
five this year. I think he can help get
58:16
above that, maybe get up to 40 points,
58:19
which I think we looked at last time,
58:20
like they haven't had a 40 point
58:22
defenseman since Shangos is there. So,
58:24
that would be good to get from him from
58:27
dry.
58:27
>> It won't be bottom five. It'll be sixth
58:29
from the bottom and we will all be
58:31
cracking champagne bottles at the end of
58:33
the season. Um
58:35
>> just it's just preseason, but the way
58:37
you see Dryale playing, the confidence
58:39
is oozing off of him. Like you can see
58:41
that he feels comfortable in the role
58:44
that he's playing. Um in he's been doing
58:47
a lot of press, too. He was one of the
58:49
representatives for the Flyers in uh
58:50
Vegas for the uh media tour or whatever
58:53
they call it. Um he's been doing post
58:56
games. Like you can you can see that
58:59
this is not the kind of
59:02
uncertain guy that came over from
59:04
Anaheim a couple years ago.
59:06
>> Yeah. He he was on what chaos over the
59:08
offseason. I saw he did something I
59:10
don't know if some mental health or some
59:12
something. Yeah. The confident shift
59:14
that changed his career with Jamie Dale.
59:16
I haven't watched that yet but that came
59:17
out a week ago. Saw that on YouTube.
59:19
Yeah, it looks like he's confident and
59:21
ready to go and Rick Tocket has full
59:23
faith in him because, you know, he was
59:25
playing with Andre at times last year
59:26
and he was the guy on that pair. So, if
59:29
he's with Cam York or with Travis
59:31
Sanheim, that's going to be a great pair
59:33
>> and he got that shot up. It looks much
59:36
better.
59:36
>> It does. It really does.
59:37
>> Visually better.
59:39
>> Uh yeah. All right. Then, uh number 24,
59:43
Nick Sailor. Just a just a great third
59:45
pair of defenseman. Does have a good
59:47
contract. 2.7 million. And I know I know
59:49
you're a big fan of that contract. It's
59:51
just uh yeah, I'm shocked he doesn't
59:54
miss more games. How many games did he
59:56
play last year? He played uh 80 games
59:58
last year, played 1741 a night. Um not
1:00:02
going to put up much offense, but
1:00:04
perfect third pair guy.
1:00:06
>> He's he's a great third pair defenseman.
1:00:09
I I know everybody when that contract
1:00:11
was signed. Oh, 2.7 million for a third
1:00:13
pair defenseman over four years with
1:00:16
trade protections. Is Danny Breer crazy?
1:00:18
Is this the big mistake contract? I was
1:00:20
like, guys, it's it's not a big deal.
1:00:24
And with the way the cap's gone up, the
1:00:26
way contracts have changed this summer,
1:00:28
courtesy Danny Brriier. Um, he is
1:00:32
probably a very hot commodity in the GM
1:00:35
chat. So, I bet if the Flyers were
1:00:37
worse, Danny would be getting a lot of
1:00:39
calls for uh Nick Steeler.
1:00:42
>> Yeah. Yeah. Any team would would would
1:00:43
like to have Nick Steer as a a cheap,
1:00:45
you know, guy can drop the gloves if he
1:00:47
has to. kills penalties, blocks shots,
1:00:49
hits, all all that good stuff.
1:00:51
>> Teammates love him. Like last year when
1:00:53
he scored that goal against the
1:00:54
Penguins, he doesn't skate to his play
1:00:56
his skaters, he skates right to the
1:00:58
bench to celebrate with them. Like he's
1:01:01
I love having Nick Cer on this team.
1:01:03
He's such a good third pair defenseman.
1:01:06
>> Good traits, good qualities. Love it.
1:01:08
>> Yeah. All right, down to number 44,
1:01:11
Simone Benois. uh first year here with
1:01:13
the Flyers, acquired in the Joseph Wall
1:01:16
Emil Andre trade. Uh last year on his
1:01:19
contract, 1.35 million. Played 73 games
1:01:23
last year, no goals, six assists, uh 78
1:01:26
games the year before, one goal, 10
1:01:29
points in total.
1:01:30
>> Wow.
1:01:31
>> Played 16 17 minutes a night. Just seems
1:01:33
like uh you know, third pair, Noah Jules
1:01:37
replacement, sixth, seventh defenseman.
1:01:39
>> He's a guy.
1:01:40
>> He's a guy. He's certainly a guy. He's a
1:01:42
hockey player.
1:01:43
>> He is a hockey player. Um I I brought
1:01:47
this up a couple days ago. It's relevant
1:01:50
to Yurichek.
1:01:52
I think they're going to give Urak some
1:01:53
runway. They're going to give him some
1:01:55
time to develop and work it out.
1:01:58
But Rick Tocket is a hockey man. How
1:02:00
long do you think it takes until hockey
1:02:02
man Rick Tocket is like, I can't I can't
1:02:04
with this. You're a check kid. I got to
1:02:06
just go with Benois. and puts him in the
1:02:09
way he did with Uh Jules last year.
1:02:12
>> Yeah, I mean he already did it on
1:02:14
Sunday. Sunday he had he had after the
1:02:16
bad game for Yurichek on Saturday.
1:02:19
Sunday he had Benois on the third pair
1:02:20
with with Yurichek uh rotating in
1:02:22
according to
1:02:23
>> the guys people that were there. So
1:02:25
>> it's already happening.
1:02:26
>> Benois Benoa is responsible. He's not
1:02:29
gonna turn the puck over and do give as
1:02:31
as many giveaways as uh Yurichek. Urch
1:02:34
had four giveaways and was a minus three
1:02:36
in the game against the Capitals. So
1:02:38
>> pretty bad. Pretty bad. Um finally
1:02:41
number 55 Rasmus Rristtoinan who big
1:02:45
question here is can he stay healthy
1:02:47
because he hasn't
1:02:49
>> in the past few years. Uh 44 games last
1:02:52
year, 63 the year before, 31 the year
1:02:54
before that. Um, so three straight years
1:02:56
where he's missed a good chunk of games.
1:02:59
Uh, did they play 74 games in the
1:03:01
previous season, but um, I guess the
1:03:03
other big question is will they trade
1:03:04
him at some point? This is the final
1:03:07
year of of his deal.
1:03:09
>> Is the Risto trade finally going to
1:03:11
happen in 2027?
1:03:13
Um, I doubt it. If this team is in a
1:03:16
playoff spot, they're going to be like,
1:03:17
"This is our rental for this for the
1:03:19
trade deadline." And they'll they'll
1:03:21
just roll with it. He was good in the
1:03:23
playoffs, too. playoff Risto. We finally
1:03:25
got to see it after all this time and he
1:03:27
was solid. Like I I don't there's no
1:03:31
reason to trade Risto unless one of Bonk
1:03:33
or Yurichek is so good that you can do
1:03:36
without him. And
1:03:38
>> I don't see that happening anytime soon.
1:03:40
>> No. Like Risto Yeah. Maybe if if
1:03:43
Yurichek can prove he can play third
1:03:45
pair, if Bon is just amazing and and
1:03:48
gets some gets some runway and comes up
1:03:50
for an injury at some point and stays up
1:03:54
maybe. But yeah, the Risto trade we've
1:03:57
been talking about for years might not
1:03:58
happen just because he is becoming a
1:04:01
good defenseman, you know, decent on on
1:04:03
the top pair with Travis Sanheim. Um but
1:04:06
yeah, he has to stay healthy like cuz
1:04:09
>> you have to be able to be like, "All
1:04:10
right, Risto, you're in the lineup
1:04:11
because without Risto, if if or when he
1:04:14
gets hurt,
1:04:15
>> you're you you can move Sanheim over to
1:04:17
the right side, which is probably what
1:04:19
they do. Then you just have Dale and
1:04:21
Yurichek as right-hand shots and then
1:04:23
Bonk if you want to call him up or
1:04:26
Greresen
1:04:29
as a left-hand shot. You put Benois in
1:04:31
and Mousanheim over, but Risto
1:04:34
is one of the keys to this defense.
1:04:36
>> We talked about it last week. An injury
1:04:38
to one of their top four defenseman is
1:04:42
cataclysmic. Like that is that is real
1:04:44
bad. Although after seeing a Dan Vadar
1:04:46
injury and the way Kasaw plays, I'm
1:04:48
like, "Oh boy, maybe I called that shot
1:04:50
too soon." Maybe a goalie injury really
1:04:52
is the the the back breaker this season,
1:04:56
not a defenseman injury. But uh
1:04:57
>> the the Flyers can make up for missing
1:05:00
even Travis Anaheim with team defense.
1:05:02
You you can't do team goalending if if
1:05:04
Kolaf's in there.
1:05:05
>> I would have I think my hope was that
1:05:08
Kolaf would be a more reliable third
1:05:11
goalie, but doesn't seem like that's
1:05:13
going to happen.
1:05:13
>> He he he was good in relief of Lar um in
1:05:16
in that one game and just Saturday he
1:05:19
just loo looked awful again. looked
1:05:20
awful. Um, should have put in Pretty
1:05:26
I don't know. Give him a chance.
1:05:27
>> Whatever. Anyway, Rristo, stay healthy.
1:05:30
Don't get hurt. Uh, don't miss the
1:05:33
playoffs.
1:05:35
>> Yeah.
1:05:35
>> Yeah.
1:05:36
>> Uh, right. Now, down to goalies. Uh, we
1:05:38
can talk about these guys together.
1:05:39
Number 53, Joseph Wall. And number 80,
1:05:42
Dan Ludar. Talked about them a bit at
1:05:44
the top when we discussed Kolasov in the
1:05:47
uh, full episode as well. But yeah, if
1:05:50
once again going from Risto to these
1:05:52
guys, it's a matter of of staying
1:05:54
healthy.
1:05:55
>> Yeah. Um I might I might have to tape
1:05:58
over the Gossas Bear on my Gossip Bear
1:06:00
jersey and put Wool because they're both
1:06:02
53. But the
1:06:03
>> Yeah.
1:06:04
>> Um No, I I'm excited. The Athletic just
1:06:08
released their goalender rankings
1:06:09
earlier today and Dan Vadar was uh
1:06:12
number 16 in the rankings, which was
1:06:14
tier three, aka strong starter. So, a
1:06:17
goalender that isn't a top 10 goalie in
1:06:19
the league, but is a reliable option.
1:06:22
And then Joseph Wol, I think was tier, I
1:06:25
want to say tier four, lower end of tier
1:06:28
four. Um,
1:06:29
>> but the
1:06:31
panelists, the experts that they talked
1:06:33
to were like, he's got the potential. If
1:06:35
he stays healthy, he might be good
1:06:37
enough to usurp Dan Ladar. That's like
1:06:40
they're they're high on the package of
1:06:42
Joseph Wall. just want to see him do it
1:06:46
consistently and be healthy. So, Flyers
1:06:48
have a really strong goalending tandem
1:06:49
if everyone's healthy. Um,
1:06:52
yeah, what a find by Brier. Last summer,
1:06:54
we all kind of were like, Larry, boy,
1:06:58
were we proven wrong.
1:07:00
>> Yeah, and hopefully he can keep it up
1:07:02
because last year was the first time he
1:07:04
played, you know, over 30 games in in a
1:07:07
season. Played 51 starts, then had the
1:07:09
playoffs as well. had that semi- injury
1:07:12
against the Penguins when Rust fell on
1:07:14
his arm. Had another looked like a right
1:07:17
arm injury already in the preseason.
1:07:20
Wall also has a history of being
1:07:21
injuryprone. So, best case scenario, you
1:07:24
know, these two guys are 1A and 1A.
1:07:27
Sometimes, yeah, you you can rely on
1:07:29
Wall for a few games in a row, you can
1:07:31
go to Lar. Worst case scenario, you have
1:07:34
Kolasov as the backup. you you have what
1:07:37
you had last year with Lar and Ericson
1:07:40
with whoever in Kolaf.
1:07:42
>> I mean I think you could just alternate
1:07:44
starts too if you wanted like um the
1:07:46
Boston Bruins the year they just smoked
1:07:48
the league they I don't remember or sway
1:07:52
getting consecutive starts. I'm pretty
1:07:54
sure they each started 41 games that
1:07:56
season. Um I think last year uh Yesper
1:08:00
Walstead had played his way into uh
1:08:03
alternating with Philip Gustoson for the
1:08:05
Minnesota Wild.
1:08:07
>> Um it was still Gustoson's crease, but
1:08:09
Walstead got a bigger share of the start
1:08:11
as the uh playoffs got closer.
1:08:14
>> Um I feel really confident, we've talked
1:08:17
about it before, getting Joseph Wall
1:08:18
raises the floor of this team so much
1:08:21
because he's not going to be as bad as
1:08:22
Sam Harrison. Um
1:08:25
I I hope that it's like 45 games for
1:08:30
Vladar, 48 maybe, and then the rest go
1:08:33
to Wool.
1:08:34
>> Yeah, that's Yeah. So hopefully they can
1:08:36
both stay healthy for the season. All
1:08:40
right, that's the uh player byplayer
1:08:42
preview breakdowns there. Just going to
1:08:44
close out with some uh Flyers team
1:08:46
awards and uh team predictions for the
1:08:49
season. First and foremost, do the
1:08:51
Flyers make the playoffs, Joe?
1:08:54
I know a lot of uh sites released their
1:08:57
season predictions today and the Flyers
1:08:59
were at the bottom of a lot of these
1:09:00
rankings. I'm still saying yes. I
1:09:05
I do not have confidence in the Devils
1:09:07
goalending for starters. I don't believe
1:09:10
in the Columbus Blue Jackets. The vibes
1:09:12
are too bad. Uh the Rangers are a mess
1:09:15
even if they do have Igor Sha Sturkin.
1:09:18
The Islanders stink. Uh like I I can't
1:09:22
imagine a world where the Flyers aren't
1:09:24
at least in the third playoff spot.
1:09:28
>> Yeah, I saw Yeah, I saw some people
1:09:30
predicted them to to have Most of them
1:09:32
were like, "Okay, Hurricanes, Capitals,
1:09:34
Flyers." I saw someone I think someone
1:09:35
had the Flyers second in the division.
1:09:37
Yeah, I agree. Flyers make the playoffs.
1:09:39
Flyers get 100 points. I think the
1:09:41
Flyers are 100 point team this season.
1:09:43
That's a I guess that's a bold
1:09:44
prediction given given where their uh
1:09:46
their things are at. Well, some people
1:09:48
are like, "Oh, well, there's two extra
1:09:49
games this season, so be getting 100
1:09:51
points isn't as like cool as it used to
1:09:54
be." I'm like, it it's 100 points.
1:09:57
When's the last time the Flyers had a
1:09:58
100 point season?
1:10:00
>> And they were a 98 point team last year.
1:10:02
Sam Harrison gets one more win last
1:10:04
season. Boom. They're a 100 point team.
1:10:06
It's
1:10:07
>> crazy.
1:10:08
>> Do the Flyers win a playoff round?
1:10:13
>> Yes. I'm going to say yeah. I I I
1:10:16
unfortunately don't think so. I think
1:10:18
the Capitals are built for the playoffs
1:10:20
and if the Flyers get a wild card spot,
1:10:24
I don't think they're beating either the
1:10:25
Hurricanes or whoever wins the Atlantic,
1:10:28
whether it's Tampa.
1:10:31
Um who else?
1:10:32
>> Montreal, Buffalo,
1:10:34
>> Florida, like Montreal. Yeah, I feel
1:10:36
like the Flyers uh take a step back this
1:10:40
year, which people are going to be like,
1:10:41
"Oh, Flyers can't take a step back."
1:10:42
But, you know, progress is not linear.
1:10:44
You have a lot more faith in the Sabres
1:10:47
and the Canadians than I do. Like the
1:10:49
Canadians
1:10:50
>> Canadians are really good.
1:10:51
>> They are, but their goalender stole them
1:10:55
two series last year, right? Like game
1:10:58
seven against the Ling.
1:10:59
>> That has to happen sometimes.
1:11:01
>> I believe Lar would be able to do that
1:11:05
better or more consistently than Dolbish
1:11:07
or Fowler, whoever they end up running
1:11:09
with the
1:11:10
>> but the Canadians lineup is better than
1:11:12
the Flyers lineup. So even so the
1:11:14
goalending may go the Flyers way, but
1:11:18
Lar would need another overtime shut
1:11:20
out. At least one. At least one against
1:11:22
the
1:11:23
>> easy.
1:11:24
>> Okay.
1:11:25
>> No, if it's the Canes though, they're
1:11:27
getting smoked. If it's the Canes, they
1:11:29
get just waxed. But
1:11:30
>> maybe they get lucky with with the
1:11:32
Penguins or a team that's injured or
1:11:34
something again this year.
1:11:35
>> Caps. I think they could take the Caps.
1:11:37
I would I'll be honest if it's like Caps
1:11:40
Flyers as the two three seed in the
1:11:43
Metro ne uh in the spring that would be
1:11:45
a hell of a series. I'd be stoked to
1:11:47
watch that.
1:11:48
>> Yep. Caps could wear down too. They got
1:11:50
a lot of a lot of big guys, a lot of old
1:11:51
guys as well.
1:11:52
>> And Logan Thompson, he's real good, but
1:11:55
he's been playing a lot of hockey the
1:11:56
past couple years.
1:11:57
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's get
1:11:59
into some team awards here. Starting
1:12:01
with the Barry Ashby Trophy for the
1:12:03
team's most outstanding defenseman. Uh,
1:12:06
you're going with Jamie Dale.
1:12:08
>> Look, I know it's Sanheim's the obvious
1:12:11
pick, but he's won it what, two years in
1:12:14
a row? Three years in a row? Like
1:12:16
>> three? Yeah. Three for the past five.
1:12:19
>> Ah, come on. Get some new blood in
1:12:21
there. I think Dale's ready.
1:12:23
>> No, I'm I'm sticking with Travis
1:12:25
Sanheim. Like, he he's the number one
1:12:27
guy. He He deserves to get it to get it
1:12:29
again.
1:12:30
>> Boring.
1:12:31
>> Uh, yes. All right. Bobby Clark. Bobby
1:12:34
Clark trophy as the uh team's most
1:12:37
valuable player as voted on by local
1:12:40
sports casters and sports writers. Um
1:12:45
I'm going with Mitchkov.
1:12:47
>> Okay. All right. Um he's coming up for a
1:12:51
different one of my votes, but I'm going
1:12:53
to go
1:12:56
I'm torn between I'm torn between Trevor
1:13:00
Ziggress and Dan Vadar repeating. Um,
1:13:03
I'm going to say Dan Vadar repeats.
1:13:05
>> Interesting. So, so Dan Vladar repeats,
1:13:07
Joseph Wall gets hurt, Dan Ladar has to
1:13:09
has to carry carry the team.
1:13:11
>> I don't think it's a Wool injury that
1:13:13
does it. I think Var just plays he just
1:13:16
does exactly what he did last season and
1:13:18
carries them into a playoff spot. Not
1:13:20
even like if he starts 50 games
1:13:23
and gets a 908 safe percentage, that's
1:13:26
probably good enough, right?
1:13:28
>> Yeah. Yeah.
1:13:30
Um, all right. Down to the Pelle
1:13:33
Lindberg Memorial Trophy awarded to the
1:13:35
Flyer who has most improved from the
1:13:37
previous season as voted by his
1:13:39
teammates. This is where I'm going to go
1:13:42
with Jamie Dale. No, Jamie Dale won it
1:13:44
last year. I don't know if he can win it
1:13:46
two in a row. All right. So, you
1:13:47
>> Well, Sanheim Sanheim won it twice. Not
1:13:50
Not consecutively, but two different
1:13:52
times.
1:13:53
>> Yeah. All right. So, you have Meechoff
1:13:55
for this? I'm assuming
1:13:56
>> I have I have Meechoff for most
1:13:57
improved.
1:13:59
Maybe maybe maybe
1:14:02
someone like uh David Urac or Denver
1:14:04
Barky could be like Darkhorse
1:14:06
candidates, but I'm I'm going with Matt
1:14:07
Fay.
1:14:08
>> Uh yeah, I don't think Dale I forgot
1:14:10
Dale won it last year, so they're not
1:14:12
going to give it to him again.
1:14:15
I'm going
1:14:16
>> Not unless he wins the Norris. If he
1:14:18
wins the Norris, then yeah, he's the
1:14:19
most improved player, but that would be
1:14:21
ridiculous.
1:14:21
>> I'm gonna go with Tyson Forester then. I
1:14:23
think Tyson Forester a full healthy
1:14:25
season puts up 30 35 goals.
1:14:28
>> Uh I think uh I think he should get
1:14:30
that.
1:14:31
>> I like that pick. That's cool.
1:14:33
>> Yeah. And other other awards we have uh
1:14:37
we have the class guy award. Young Dri
1:14:39
memorial class guy is voted by the
1:14:41
media. Uh and we have the uh Gene Hart
1:14:45
memorial award awarded to the flyer who
1:14:47
demonstrated the most heart during this
1:14:48
season. Um,
1:14:51
heart award going to go to uh
1:14:55
Denver Barky. I think Denver Barky could
1:14:57
could win that one.
1:14:58
>> Good choice.
1:14:59
>> And and the class guy.
1:15:02
Um,
1:15:06
could see it being like a like a like a
1:15:08
Simone Benois type, like just someone
1:15:09
who just does his job. I don't I don't
1:15:12
know if he's he's in the media a lot,
1:15:14
but could be just someone like that.
1:15:16
It's always someone offthe-wall.
1:15:18
>> I think Caler gets the heart award for
1:15:21
like most heart during the season.
1:15:23
>> He's he's that kind of guy.
1:15:25
>> He hasn't won it surprisingly. That's uh
1:15:27
He has not won it.
1:15:29
>> I'm surprised by that. Like he feels
1:15:30
like such a shoein.
1:15:32
>> Um class guy. Oh, it was Haway last year
1:15:36
I think. Right.
1:15:37
>> Wait. The uh the Gene Hart Memorial
1:15:39
Award is voted by the Philadelphia
1:15:41
Flyers fan club at their monthly
1:15:43
meeting. So, we may have to I thought it
1:15:45
was voted on by like writers or or
1:15:48
teammates or something. So, it's a fan
1:15:49
club. We got so we got to think fan
1:15:52
first, but I don't I don't know if that
1:15:53
index thinks
1:15:54
>> I still think it's Nick Caler. I I think
1:15:57
he's been around long enough. Um,
1:15:59
>> yeah.
1:16:00
>> And then, uh, the class guy,
1:16:02
>> class guy, recent winners, uh, Vadar
1:16:04
Sanheim, Seer, Justin Braun, Cam
1:16:07
Atinson, JVR, Scott Laden, uh, Andrew
1:16:11
McDonald, Shan Couttoriier, Steve Mason,
1:16:13
Wayne Simmons, Mark Stright. So,
1:16:15
>> all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna just make
1:16:17
you mad. I'm gonna say Christian
1:16:19
D'vorak.
1:16:21
>> Fair enough. Fair enough. If there's if
1:16:22
there is an award he can win, it's
1:16:24
something about his off ice uh,
1:16:27
accolades. He's living in the attic of
1:16:30
uh the Zegris house, which just cracks
1:16:32
me up, man.
1:16:33
>> Yes. Yeah. Um I think that's about all
1:16:36
we wanted to get into here. Jam-packed
1:16:38
episode of the Broad Street Hockey
1:16:39
Podcast. Uh
1:16:41
>> do you before we go, I want to just ask,
1:16:43
do you think any Flyers win or end up a
1:16:46
finalist for one of the uh like the big
1:16:49
league awards?
1:16:50
>> Oh, I guess basically does does Porter
1:16:52
Martell win or is a is he is he a
1:16:54
finalist for the CER is the question. Or
1:16:56
does Vladar make a run at the Vzna? Or
1:16:59
does one of like maybe does Meechovv
1:17:02
like really pop off and make a run at
1:17:04
the Art Ross or something like you know
1:17:07
what's uh
1:17:08
>> I I think I think Marton's a finalist
1:17:10
for the Calder.
1:17:11
>> I think the Vzna you have to be a
1:17:14
starting starting goalie that's going to
1:17:16
win 40 games, 35 games that Lar is not
1:17:19
going to get to. But I think I think
1:17:21
Barton is a finalist and at some point
1:17:25
he will be a good bet at FanDuel once
1:17:27
his odds lengthen.
1:17:28
>> Yeah, I think I'm with
1:17:30
>> How about you?
1:17:30
>> Calder uh for Martone should be a
1:17:33
finalist.
1:17:35
I
1:17:36
I [snorts] really want to put some I
1:17:38
really want to put Vladar in the running
1:17:40
for the VZNA, but I'm not going to do
1:17:41
it.
1:17:42
>> No, it's possible. It's possible if he's
1:17:44
if he's the starter and like
1:17:46
>> some votes. He got some votes last year.
1:17:48
He got some hard trophy votes, too.
1:17:50
[laughter]
1:17:50
>> Yeah.
1:17:53
>> Yeah. Uh, are you going down to the home
1:17:54
opener FanFest? Did you get Did you get
1:17:56
tickets for that?
1:17:57
>> I haven't even looked into it, but I'm
1:17:59
I'm still considering. It's supposed to
1:18:00
be a nice day. I think it'd be a great
1:18:01
day to like go down and hang out around
1:18:03
there. So, I'll right after we finish
1:18:05
with this, I'm going to look up what the
1:18:07
RSVP is.
1:18:08
>> Yeah, I thought they were doing tickets
1:18:10
or something there. I I did uh get my
1:18:11
tickets for the home opener last night,
1:18:13
so I will be in the building for the
1:18:15
home opener. Maybe maybe we'll have to
1:18:16
meet up before it if uh if you're not
1:18:18
going.
1:18:19
>> Hell yeah.
1:18:20
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I think that's how you say those handles
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