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Could the Flyers bring back former captain Claude Giroux on a short-term deal?
Steve Jacot and Ryan Gilbert discuss whether Danny Briere could bring Giroux back to Philadelphia.
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I wonder if there's a forward that maybe
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the Flyers could bring back into the
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fold that can help.
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>> Forwards can help power plays too,
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Steve. It doesn't have to be a It
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doesn't have to be a defenseman
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quarterbacking it.
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Yeah, I'm surprised we're 14 minutes
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into this little thing here without
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without uttering the name of Claude
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Giroux who if you if you talk about
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potential Claude Giroux return here
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which Pierre LeBrun reported the Flyers
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are in the mix on Claude Giroux. You
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might get some visceral reactions from
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some fans. Don't bring him back. That
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ship has passed. You don't want him back
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in the old leader coming in with the new
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leader. Let the Let the locker room not
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have that come back in, but
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Claude Giroux is basically a much better
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Luke Glendening. You bring him in, he
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can play center, he can play wing, still
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great at face-offs, can kill penalties
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if you want, can play that power play,
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can be the guy on the half wall that we
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know that he could be. We watched for
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for 10 years here.
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I just don't know where he fits without
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trading somebody. Like maybe you do
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trade a Tippett or a Cates for whoever.
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Thank God it's not Maverick Bourque. I
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did not want Maverick Bourque here, but
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Claude Giroux
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he was set to hit free free agency. I
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was like it's just it it it's such a
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good fit. It was such a good fit last
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year. I wanted him instead of Christian
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Dvorak or bring him back instead of
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extending Christian Dvorak. But if you
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can bring back Giroux, ultimately I
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would want him to go chase a cup. I
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don't know if that's what he wants. That
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would probably mean joining the Panthers
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which we'd have to
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then kind of root for the Panthers which
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I don't know if we necessarily want.
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>> No, they've won enough. I can't root for
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them anymore.
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>> No, like I don't know Montreal
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>> I didn't really root for them in the
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first place, but like I can't I can't
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root for them in good conscience.
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>> Montreal's in the mix. I think I feel
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like Toronto could be a good fit for for
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Claude if they're if they're actually
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going for it. But
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yeah, Giroux coming back would be would
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probably be one of the better names that
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they could sign. Colton Sissons was in
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the mix, Roussel Johnston, they both
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went elsewhere. Um, it does seem like
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Nolan Chart is another name as well, but
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he's more of a
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halfway replacement that can, you know,
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score a little bit more, take face-offs.
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Um, but Giroux I think is probably one
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of the biggest names out there right now
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with um, all these other guys off the
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board.
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>> Well, you know, Toronto's nearby Hearst,
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right?
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>> It is. Nearby Hearst, yeah.
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>> It's only a 9-hour and 44-minute drive
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per some quick Googling could tell me
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there. Uh, but you know, overall like I
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think maybe it's not that far from
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Ottawa, you know, it's it's not
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tremendously far. He's staying in the
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country if he goes to Toronto. I haven't
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really heard him connected with Toronto
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to this point. Um, it would be an
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interesting move, but Lebrun, Pierre
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Lebrun earlier today did tease that
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Philadelphia was interested in Giroux.
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And what I like about Giroux is the
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flexibility. I like that he can play
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pretty much anywhere in the Flyers
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lineup, like
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anywhere from line one to four. I don't
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want him playing on four because he's
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still a good player capable of putting
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up points. Like does he fix everything?
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Absolutely not, but I also freaking love
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the idea of putting him with Noah Cates
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and Matvei Michkov. Oh my god, that's
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perfect because he can help Michkov's
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offense by, you know, being a guy who
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understands his offensive system a lot
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better and help him learn the game a
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little bit, but he also can slide and
3:23
take those damn face-offs for Noah Cates
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that he's not great at. So, it's a
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really good combination where he can
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just slide in, do that, slide back to
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wing, Noah Cates can take care of the
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defensive game. That's a really good
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potential line. I could see him doing a
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similar thing with Trevor Zegras. Uh,
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much like Christian Dvorak and Zegras
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would kind of be that one-two punch last
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year. He can play anywhere at least, I
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mean, he can play anywhere in the top
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four, but he plugs in any one of those
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lines really well, and the fact that he
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actually plays left wing as opposed to
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these guys that they're trying to jam
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into the left wing position like Michkov
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and it just doesn't really work. I like
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that.
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>> Yeah, like like a Giroux Kates Michkov
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line could be like a Foerster Kates
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Brink type line and we saw we saw Brink
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Kates and Michkov go for a bit last
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year. They played 183 minutes together
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53% of the expected goal share. I also
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saw Foerster play with those two
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obviously. So you bring Giroux in and
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you play him there. And I I don't mind
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necessarily as much adding a veteran or
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two because you know development is not
4:26
linear. Like we we love Barkey, we love
4:28
Bump but they're going to have the the
4:29
bumps in the road this next season where
4:31
you might want to send him back down.
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Bobby Brink was a guy that had to be
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sent back down to the Phantoms, you
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know, after having a a good stretch
4:38
there. So
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um
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Yeah, I I think there is room here. Like
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we talk about the winger logjam and it's
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going to be tough to fit someone in
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there but if Barkey or Bump has to spend
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some time in the minors, that's not the
4:52
worst thing in the world as long as it's
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not Garnet Hathaway or Nick Deslauriers
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or even Carl Grundstrom playing playing
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ahead of them. Like I love Carl but
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Carl's like a 13th forward at this
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point. But if you get Giroux, if even
5:06
Deslauriers, like I would understand
5:08
having him in the lineup and you know,
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just giving the giving the kids someone
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to compete against. Be like, "Hey, if
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you got if you can beat out this guy for
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a spot, you'll play. But if not, you
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know, maybe go to the go to the
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Phantoms."
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>> I'm talking myself more into the Giroux
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thing by the second just because I also
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like him for setting the example for
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these younger guys, you know, for
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helping them learn.
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I'm hoping Michkov learns some more
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English because I want to see him learn
5:30
and grow this season but Giroux just is
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a guy who has played a dynamic offensive
5:35
game. We've seen him play MVP level
5:37
hockey. Robbed. We've seen him score 100
5:40
plus points. He's a guy who is
5:43
offensively dynamic and he can really
5:45
help the power play. 49 points last
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season. He's still got a lot left in the
5:49
tank right now. And you know the fans
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would love to see him. It would just be
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fun to see him back in the orange and
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black. And this is where he should
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finish his career, frankly. I do want to
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I think he should pursue a cup for the
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sake of his own career, but
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I do also want to see him retire in the
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orange and black. Like I think he's had
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a good run with the Senators. The
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Senators have no idea what they're doing
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though. That is a franchise that is just
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like they have had a wild off-season to
6:13
this point, and I understand why they
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had to do what they had to do with Brady
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Tkachuk, but man, like that is a huge
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loss for them, and they've made some
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good moves to recover from that, but I
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don't know where that franchise is right
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now.
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>> No, the Senators are I mean Brady Brady
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Tkachuk kind of screwed them over a
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little bit, but that's the Yeah, the
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Senators they're doing the best they
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can. They got Shabbat, they got they got
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Sanderson. They have a few centers the
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Flyers are interested. I would still
6:37
like Shane Pinto or more so Dylan
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Cousins, but yeah, maybe maybe Giroux
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signs somewhere for 1 year, and you
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know, he's What is he? I think he's 39
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now, but I think he'll age He's been
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aging pretty gracefully. Like like you
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said, he had
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um 40 some points last year, so maybe he
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has a 1-year deal with someone else,
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then comes back to Philly, cuz I do I do
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want to see him play playoff hockey, but
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you know what? That that could be in in
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Philly again. Like that could be in
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Philly. Like the Flyers, if they get
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Giroux, if they make some make some
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other savvy moves to improve the blue
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line that's not necessarily Darnell
7:13
Nurse, even if it is on retention,
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should not be I'd be okay, but like the
7:17
Flyers are are in the mix. The Flyers
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are in the mix for for the playoffs.
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>> Yeah, they're in the mix. They also have
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a determined front office. They have
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made the playoffs, they've got a taste
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of it, they don't want to go back. They
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And you can see that with the
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aggression, right? You can see that with
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Danny Briere being involved with
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Voracek, being involved with Carlson. He
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is very cognizant. I know Keith This is
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what I love Keith Jones for in this
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front office. Is Keith Jones worked at
7:40
WIP. Keith Jones has mingled with these
7:43
common fans. Oh, he's deigned upon us.
7:45
He knows how much we are pissed off and
7:48
how much we like being back in the
7:49
playoffs. So, I think he understands the
7:52
fan base in a way that past front
7:54
offices either haven't understood or
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haven't cared. And that's one of the
7:59
things I like about this one-two punch
8:00
right here over here. But, you know, I I
8:03
like the Giroux move. Uh if it happens,
8:05
that's a big if at this point. Anthony
8:07
DeMarco tweeted not too long ago that it
8:09
is still very much a possibility. He
8:11
said there's a good amount of Oh, wait,
8:13
I'm sorry. It was further to Pierre
8:15
LeBrun's report, it sounds like a Giroux
8:16
Flyers reunion is still a possibility.
8:19
Uh DeMarco also said sounds like
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Philadelphia isn't close on John
8:22
Carlson. Belief is that he is going
8:24
elsewhere. So, uh
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Carlson, we'll see. It doesn't look
8:28
great right now. And again, as we were
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saying before, I don't blame him. I
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don't blame him at all if that's the
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case because
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I would want to win if I was that age.
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Giroux has never It's not that he
8:39
doesn't want to win, but it's always
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seemed like he's been a little bit more
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about going places that he likes and
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he's comfortable and
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you know, he didn't want to leave
8:48
Philadelphia very famously in the first
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place. Uh he went home to Ottawa because
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even though we joke about it being
8:54
nearby Hearst, like Hearst is the
8:56
closest market or Ottawa is the closest
8:58
market to Hearst. Uh some other moves,
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uh Ross Johnston has signed with the St.
9:03
Louis Blues. So, that's another name off
9:06
the board. Not that I was particularly
9:07
interested there, but
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>> No No Joel Armia two years, 1.1 million
9:11
in Colorado. Good Good for Noah there.
9:13
Good for Noah.
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>> Vape up for Noah. He's over in Colorado.
9:16
>> J- Jeffrey Veilleux five years, 2.5
9:19
million in Tampa Bay. These contracts
9:21
being handed out just sound wild here.
9:23
And the the Tyson Foerster contract is
9:25
official here. Eight years, 7.1 million.
9:28
No word on if there's any trade
9:31
protection as of yet.
9:32
>> Flyers have gone official with the
9:34
Foerster extension. Quote from Danny
9:36
Briere, "We're excited to have Tyson be
9:37
a key part of our long-term future. He's
9:40
established himself as an important
9:41
piece of the foundation we're building
9:43
here. Since coming up through our
9:44
system, he's continued to improve and
9:46
develop every step of the way into a
9:48
consistent offensive contributor, while
9:50
also being a trusted and reliable
9:52
200-foot player. We have a great deal of
9:54
confidence in him and believe he'll play
9:56
a significant role as we continue
9:57
building towards a successful team for
9:59
years to come." Yeah, I mean Foerster is
10:01
so important to the future of this team,
10:03
and we saw it in the first quarter of
10:05
the season when before he was hurt, when
10:08
the power play wasn't complete and total
10:10
ass, he was a big part of that power
10:12
play being pretty good. If I pretty
10:14
good, I mean like what, 25th or
10:16
something, not 32nd.
10:18
>> like not not horrible.
10:20
>> Yeah, not horrible, but he is just so
10:22
important. It's the two-way play, but
10:24
it's that goal-scoring potential because
10:26
they need goal scorers. I think Porter
10:28
Martone is going to be a great goal
10:29
scorer. Michkov's back on track, he's
10:31
going to be a great goal scorer, but
10:34
man, it's going to be I just don't know
10:36
where they go from here. It's going to
10:38
be fascinating to see what they do. I
10:41
love the aggression, but there's only so
10:43
much you can do, and a lot of guys did
10:45
not go to free agency. A lot of guys
10:47
that they were hoping would be available
10:49
are not available.
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>> No, you looked at the name like the
10:52
names of potential free agents that were
10:54
tweeted out like a year or two ago.
10:56
Like, "Oh, this this free agent class
10:57
could be stacked with Kyle Connor and
10:59
Connor McDavid and all these guys." Then
11:01
you look at the names that were
11:03
available going into July 1st, some of
11:05
these contracts being ha- handed out,
11:07
and it's just like, yeah, there's really
11:09
nothing out there. It's just more of a
11:11
more of a type of trade thing
11:15
that that are happening now. So, I
11:17
wonder with the Giroux thing if the
11:20
Flyers are just keeping tabs on him in
11:22
case they pull a trade with Tippett or
11:26
or with somebody else for for Werenski
11:31
or or for, you know, to the Senators if
11:34
they trade Ristolainen and a winger for
11:36
Cousins and somebody else, something
11:37
like that. Like, all right, we lost
11:39
Tippett.
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We still kind of need a winger. Like,
11:42
like even if the Flyers do trade
11:45
Tippett, it clears up up the logjam, but
11:48
it doesn't There's no one really ready
11:50
to to take that take that role on. So,
11:52
like, if they trade Tippett and sign
11:54
Giroux or something like that, that
11:56
could make a lot a lot of sense there,
11:58
but
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I'm excited to see what happens comes
12:01
down the pike here in the
12:02
next few hours and potentially few days.
12:05
Like, this this may not be too quickly
12:08
moving.
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