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PAPOOSE Talks Being Head of Hip-Hop At TUNECORE, Parenthood & Relationship Advice | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Jan 27, 2023
Papoose was recently named as Tunecore’s Head of Hip-Hop. Pap will lead the music distributor’s Artist Ambassador program for Hip-Hop and rap. The Brooklyn-emcee turned business man will be charged with bridging the gap between new artists and established talent.
He stopped by Sway In The Morning to talk about what it all means and what separates Tunecore.
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when I look at this young man you know
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um to me he personifies all the things I
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thought was important in his culture
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coming up and a lot of the things that's
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just really hard to hold on to or even
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protect especially as you start moving
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up that ladder of success but he's one
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of those people who never been he never
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he he he never compromised his Integrity
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um he's always been his authentic self
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as folks like to say I could have a
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conversation with him 10 years ago and
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we talking off Mike today and it's like
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we picking up from that same
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conversation all we see him this dude
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texts me every now and then have to be
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to check in on me yo what up G you good
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and I smile every time he does it
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because he don't know how big of a fan I
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am I tell him that [ __ ] but he'd be
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looking at me like really slow
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that's even happening especially among
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men in this community and from my
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culture I think if more that was going
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on let's say maybe 10 15 years ago the a
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lot of things would have been different
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like I like that yeah that you sharing
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that he checks in y'all checking on each
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other because mentally that's supportive
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as well you know that'd be much needed
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in this day and age too facts now you
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never know what the next person is going
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through and you might be that voice to
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just bring them back yeah yeah I was
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just telling one of my closest friends
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that the other day because he's been
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reaching out to me he's like yo you're
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not getting back to me I'm like yo you
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know what you're right but just the fact
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that you reach out to me it brings me
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back to reality when I'm overwhelmed by
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things and let me know wait a minute
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stay focused we got people out there who
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love you you know what I'm saying
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because it gets rough sometimes
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absolutely that voice you hear right
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there man is feared by motion seeds
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they don't even want them
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okay man that's the one and only man the
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Magnificent one himself give it up for
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papoo
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[Music]
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yo thanks for the introduction sway
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means a lot man I don't know if I can
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live up to it brother
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you already living it I see [ __ ] I see
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things you already there you know so uh
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you're already there you have no choice
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you've already done it when you when
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you've uh revealed to the world your
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love for your woman and your family and
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your kids there was nothing you can do
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no wrong you know you made that
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comfortable for dudes um being on a
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reality show just showing your
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dedication to your black woman yes and
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your beautiful kids those kids are so
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confident in themselves man I never
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forget when I met them at sobs they
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didn't want to take a picture with me
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crap you remember that they didn't want
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to take a picture
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it was like nah that ain't that ain't TJ
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is that little TJ
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you know they stay stuck in a little
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yeah I had to school them real quick
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yeah they took the picture begrudgingly
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y'all
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real quick
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Remy that she was like yeah that's right
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sway
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[Laughter]
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that's amazing though uh I want to talk
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about this new position you have but how
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are you how are you doing I'm great man
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I'm great I'm great brother always you
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know I mean great to be an amazing
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company around you guys thank you and so
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I'm in a great space are you having uh
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parental challenges yet what kind of
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challenge because the kids are getting
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older and they know who they are I've
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seen I've seen tons of Parental
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challenges man forget about it man
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whoa I've seen it believe me like I I've
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had a boyfriend that I didn't like oh
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no how'd you deal with that show all the
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fathers out there can relate to that but
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but how'd you deal with it like um I
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dealt with it I took it head on okay I
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took it head on because a lot of people
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told me not to yo you can't do that you
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know you can't go to people's houses oh
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you went through that yeah I did because
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I wanted to speak to his parents oh what
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didn't you like about him a lot a lot of
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things I didn't like about him just was
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just wasn't a good dude
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um I I had seen him one time talking to
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my daughter you know what I'm saying and
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I asked them like yo you do you live
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here because it's it's like a building
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you know what I'm saying at the time and
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um
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he said no so I just asked him to leave
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and he left with no problem
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um just just a just not a good not a
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good dude a good energy right yeah long
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story short it continued and as it
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continued I said you know what I think I
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need to speak to his parents yeah and I
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went over there to speak to his parents
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how did that go that see that's the kind
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of things we need to do more of that but
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what age if you know around what age
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um was this kid well around that time he
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was like about maybe like I say like a
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year or two years older than my daughter
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yeah that's another thing I didn't like
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got it you know what I'm saying and um
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I said you know I need to go speak to
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his parents and everybody told me not to
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do it and I didn't listen because as a
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father I felt like it was something I
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needed to take care of I feel that and
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um I didn't listen and I went over there
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and I'ma just say you know it went left
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but okay I got my daughter back
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so I was okay I was cool with that get
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into it yeah yeah yeah we fixed that and
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that's over with it and she's in a great
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space and doing great amazing things and
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I love it amen did it bring you and your
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daughter closer absolutely yeah seeing
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how your dad's a ride or die for real oh
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yeah yeah that that's gonna definitely
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come in the street and find out what's
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going on I'm not playing from a distance
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I'm not doing none of that um
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I might have to hire Pap for myself
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[Laughter]
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I mean a lot of people think you know uh
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fatherhood is it's easy it's very
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challenging yeah you know when you're
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raising a newborn child or an infant
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it's a total different experience when
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you're raising a young adult one cannot
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prepare you for the other right so some
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guys out here they have they have a
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child or two or whatever they feel like
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oh yeah you know I'm a dad it's amazing
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I try to tell them get ready because
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around 13. that's when they get
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rebellious that's what I mean you become
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a different dad
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and I know it's hard because it's just
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like for fun like we'll just do you
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think if it was your son right at this
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age and it was a young lady that you
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were uncomfortable with would you have
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had the same energy to go to speak to
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her parents do you think it would have
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went left possibly if you would I speak
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to other parents
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maybe maybe not it probably would have
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been a little different
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um because just because of it like you
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said it would be it would be a young
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lady but I I spring I expressed to you
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from the beginning this kid wasn't a
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good kid so yeah he had a that mentality
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where he wants to feel like you know
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what I'm saying yeah of course that's
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something to prove you know because I
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feel like as a as a woman or as a mother
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of a child you know if I don't like it
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or if I don't have any kids but if I
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didn't like my son's girlfriend I would
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be more inclined to want to speak to her
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parents you know what I mean with my
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husband or the father of my wouldn't
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want to do that like uh you just don't
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like uh blah blah blah blah but if it's
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the opposite if my husband didn't like
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our daughter's boyfriend he would want
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to go you know so you're saying if it
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was a female you would want to handle it
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I think I am I think I understand from
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you know what I mean I think I
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understand from a woman if I didn't like
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my son's girlfriend I would feel like
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she was bad I mean it wasn't so much
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that I disliked him it's just that if
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you if you're involved with my child I'm
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going to do my research
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yeah it don't matter I need to know who
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you're dealing with bro yeah so I'm
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going to do my homework and find out
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what's going on and you know I mean in
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the process of that investigation if I
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see certain things that I just know is
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unhealthy and unsafe I I gotta Step Up
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is there an age that you would not do
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that no your child okay as long as I'm
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here what am I here for yeah what listen
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do all of that when I'm gone as long as
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I'm here I'm going to make sure I do my
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my duty to make sure my children and my
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family is safe I don't regardless of
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whom or what I'm going to do that
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because otherwise what what am I here
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for I'm not doing my job as a father I'm
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just taking up space I feel like we all
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serve a purpose in life and once you
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stop serving that purpose
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you're basically irrelevant right I mean
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if you're a father and you're not
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protecting you're not looking out to see
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what's going on with your family and to
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the best of your ability to make sure
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they're safe
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so
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um that's Papoose though you gotta
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sometimes you gotta papusic
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[Laughter]
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um wanted to bring somebody to meet me
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and and I caught a Vibe why not yeah I
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would do the same thing I think she's
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very capable my daughter's 24 so she oh
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yeah yeah she yeah she's an adult yeah
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at that time yeah so she was underage
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and that happened I would definitely be
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it but I trust
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her trust in herself that's right and um
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I'm there if she needs me when she needs
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me you know I'm watching though I'm that
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eagle perched up on the top of the
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mountain looking down with that Eagle
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Eye sideways on the situation there
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ain't nothing I wouldn't do to protect
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her but I do I'm the type of father that
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uh you know we wanted to empower our
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daughters so they don't they're not
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intimidated in any surroundings we've
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accomplished that so I gotta trust in
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our instincts and her impulses
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um it's a process though Growing Pains
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yeah to get to that point you know I
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mean that's what he's talking about so
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it was just a process and sometimes you
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hit a bump in the road you know yeah man
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this one started a whole nother
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[Music]
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hold up man Justin you got you want to
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comment on this Justin where you at
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right now hey Justin hey how you doing I
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call I call you up there I call every
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once in a while what's going on but now
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what I wanted to say was hey nothing
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wrong with doing what you said because
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my mom used to do that all the time when
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we were just even my regular friends you
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know what I mean who all went hello hung
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out with who I was with she would always
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like want to call their parents like
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let's see what their parents are all
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about and I'm assuming you said it went
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way left you probably saw where the kid
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got his attitude from you talked to the
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parents
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there's nothing wrong with that but I
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did have a question though for you I had
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to bring that up is as a I guess as a
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celebrity and somebody of course at your
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like Bachelor how do you feel that you
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can think like that there's certain way
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to have to handle this one damn your
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phone wait wait your phone is crazy what
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you say your question again yeah
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so the question is says you're a
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celebrity right so as me as not a
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celebrity I can go to someone's parents
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house and talk to them and say hey look
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what's going on blah blah blah but you a
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celebrity I feel like you have to hold a
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certain standard do you feel that way if
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you have to hold a certain sandwiches
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they might record you put you on Tick
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Tock right right
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um
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I'm a father first I'm a father first
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the celebrity is like on the bottom of
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the list somewhere
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you know I mean a fatherhood comes
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before anything so you know
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I I don't even I I can't even factor
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that in when it comes to you know me and
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my children or my family just to be
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honest with you I'm not going to say oh
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you're a celebrity you can't go speak to
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to another child's parent to find out uh
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can we fix a problem I'm not going to
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say that just because I'm a celebrity
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you know if you look in my body yo
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you'll see father first and then
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prioritize hey Justin thanks for your
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question man and I like that you um you
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too I'm glad you said it wasn't that you
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didn't like the kid
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you know legit oh yeah no it wasn't that
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man it was just that when I did my
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homework it was like a nightmare you
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know yeah yeah
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I got to step in you got to step in how
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do you the other thing is and then we're
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gonna come to the the new position
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because I feel like it all ties in
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it does okay so so we're going through
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fatherhood and the thing I love too man
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you often are celebrated for it and
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we've talked about it in the past too
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just your dedication to your marriage
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you know it's always
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um
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just been something that's been very
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commendable and it's always been very
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public and you've always been very
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public about it
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um dedication devotion uh methodology
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that it requires to keep America
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marriage going I'm not married but I
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hear it from Heather every day that
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marriage is something that's new and
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requires work every day right but you're
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married to a superstar
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a strong black woman
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who's always fly
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you know uh how do you keep it exciting
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with a life that's already so exciting
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like for her right
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the simple things man sometimes my wife
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just want to go watch a movie or go
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um
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paintball shooting or she just likes to
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do regular things and you know when
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you're a superstar like that your life
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consists of a lot of extravagant
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thinking things like you said so you
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kind of get overwhelmed with that at
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work so the simple things
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make it fun and keep the relationship
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exciting yeah y'all play y'all play
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dominoes y'all play spades for chocolate
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she beats me in everything we play she's
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crazy with it like she's like a um I
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don't know she's like a freaking Nation
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when it comes to games and [ __ ] like
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that but um yeah we play all kinds of
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different things we got this little um
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game we was playing the other day where
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they name a quote from a song and you
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gotta say exactly what song they come
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from oh [ __ ] I had it down like 7-0 when
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she came back gunning and scored like
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five in a row it was it was an
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interesting game we played games like
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that we play Scrabble
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um but we was doing that since she was
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locked up Scrabble
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um
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Checkers and just regular [ __ ] man yeah
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you know what I mean I love it man get
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married swear you'll find out yourself
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right
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what you doing it's the regular thing
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sweet you you'll see me I'm talking
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yourself out of it you've been asking
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all these questions
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that was giving me a whole different
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energy than you are Heather I just want
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to say that for the record
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what are some of the things though for
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someone who's maybe like on the fence up
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about marriage you know what are some of
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the things that I said somebody that's
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why somebody right but if someone's on
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the fence about marriage like what are
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the
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major points that they should consider
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maybe some of those points are fine
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print but that come with marriage that
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they gotta be okay with in order because
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sometimes we romanticize it but it's
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obviously worse
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oh man when you say work you know what
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I'm saying it makes me think but um I
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don't know how to take that
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um I would I would say because some
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people they live in a life
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so we're there lying to people you know
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what I mean promising them the world and
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then behind me back they're promising
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another person in the world the world
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and then they're trying to juggle a
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career they're trying to go to work
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they're trying to be successful and I
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always tell brothers and you know I mean
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majority brothers because you know
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um bro you shooting yourself in the foot
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like you don't see that this is
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affecting your career you don't see that
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this is affecting your mind State you
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you're busy lying to somebody you're
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busy playing games it's like tug of war
15:46
you the Rope
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you know I'm saying if you really want
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to settle down and have some peace in
15:51
your life so you can function on your
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endeavors sway you need to uh consider
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settling down bro
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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don't do it but I just try to give that
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advice yeah I try to just give it from a
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different perspective so they can so
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they can get it like because I'm sitting
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here and I watch this [ __ ] happen like
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it's a domino effect bro when you're
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dealing with that in your personal life
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it affects you
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your single life is actually distracting
16:38
you more it's a distraction bro like
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you'll find so much peace in your life
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if you just try it what's the last rap
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you wrote
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that was the best time
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it might have been that way
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I think we take some calls now
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I ain't lying to nobody though I'm crazy
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he don't lie he's just super hesitant
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well as long as he's as long as he's
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honest honesty is the best policy
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thank you God bless your grandmother too
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my grandmother told me the same thing
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yeah flying to Oakland and see you
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tomorrow Pap yeah rest in peace your
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grandmother arrested her name yeah
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Vivian strongman she she actually the
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one who gave me my name she gave me the
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name birth at Birth yeah birthday she um
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she died from cancer so when I when I
17:35
came into the game I was like I got to
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keep this name I'm saying to carry it on
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for my grandmother they're being strong
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they're being strong
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17 kids 17 kids
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strong we said it three times that's
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what we signify here that's beautiful
17:49
man thanks for sharing this with us we
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have the head of hip-hop for the company
17:54
called tunecore with us right now yes
17:57
he's asked he talks directly to the CEO
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uh which Miss Miss Gleason
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um and she's the one Andrea Andrea
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Gleason who brought you over there
18:08
tunecore is a company that I've done
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things for and with you know to promote
18:12
what it is that they have to offer to
18:14
Independent Artists and platforms Tracy
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G has done stuff with yeah right yeah I
18:20
currently used to incorporate all my
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audio vision boards which are like my
18:23
remix to affirmations that are
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soundtracked yeah I use tunecore for
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distribution yeah oh so we got to
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connect in because I can make your
18:30
experience a lot better and smoother I'm
18:32
sure it's going great but yeah now that
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I'm there I'm working on enhancing
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things okay let's do that let's talk
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about Papoose signed a contract with a
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corporation a music
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um platform platform a tech company that
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uh distributes music Pap who's got a job
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y'all
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hey do you got an office
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I would love to have you walk in that
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building it would be a privilege
19:05
next week I'm there you got to come man
19:09
all right I'm coming through that's my
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word Heather you want to come I'll come
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with you yeah let me tell you why I
19:16
would come because
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in this by myself even as an artist you
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know um who has the catalog and music
19:23
I'm not really sure what tune core does
19:25
okay like I'm just not sure and so if
19:28
you can Pat can you speak to somebody
19:30
who may be like in the middle of
19:32
Illinois right now Who's the artist
19:33
who's like okay what is tunecore what
19:36
what should I know about tune course
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well tunecore is
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one of the best distribution companies
19:42
in the world actually the most
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International you know a lot of these
19:46
distribution companies first and
19:47
foremost they take a percentage of your
19:49
money yep so they say hey 80 20 70 30 60
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40 and I don't feel like that's fair
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because they don't know what it's like
19:56
Studio therapy in the studio all night
19:58
facts they don't know what it's like
19:59
when you busting your brain to create
20:00
your music and then now you want to
20:02
distribute it to the Masters and these
20:04
people are cutting into your money when
20:05
tune call you keep 100 of your profit oh
20:08
and that's how I fell in love with them
20:10
because I've been on the major label had
20:13
the big deal I went from that to going
20:15
back independent and I'll tell you right
20:16
now working with these distribution
20:18
companies they play a lot of games and I
20:21
spoke to other artists and they telling
20:23
me they have the same experience because
20:24
the reason why like when you put your
20:26
music out and you're looking at your
20:27
return
20:28
you're like damn I know I sold more than
20:30
that but they had these dashboards that
20:33
don't tell you anything right and these
20:34
people have interest in your money so
20:36
you're never going to see your true
20:38
value but when I got with tune call I
20:40
got the opportunity opportunity to see
20:42
what I was really worth like I feel like
20:44
as an artist
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I don't care if you worth a lot of money
20:48
or you're worth a small amount of money
20:49
whatever it is I feel like you deserve
20:51
to cash in on that yeah and I was never
20:54
able to see how much I could make off my
20:57
music until I got with tune call because
20:59
and that's and that's because they don't
21:00
have any interest in my money they only
21:02
you only pay to upload the content after
21:05
that all your return so that's how
21:07
tunecore makes their money because my
21:09
question then would be if I don't
21:11
currently put out music but if I wanted
21:13
to put out music and somebody said put
21:16
your music on tunecore and you get to
21:18
keep 100 of your money my first question
21:21
would be well how does tunecore make
21:23
money but you're saying that you they
21:25
make money because you have to pay to
21:27
actually upload the music got it so so
21:30
if you look at that
21:32
you know it'll tell you right there they
21:34
have no interest in your profit so now
21:36
you're going to see how much you truly
21:37
got it so when I was doing when I was
21:39
working with these other distribution
21:40
companies in the back of my mind I'm
21:42
like y'all know I did more than
21:43
more than [ __ ] way you know I'm
21:45
saying but what they do is they have a
21:47
middleman
21:48
and they tell some of them will tell you
21:49
hey we give you 100 but they don't what
21:51
they're not telling you is the middleman
21:52
takes the money cuts it and gives it to
21:55
them now they're not keeping the money
21:56
these guys but it's not the real Revenue
21:59
that they're giving to you and because
22:01
of what you're saying causes someone
22:04
like me and a lot of other people out
22:06
there not to want to be bothered with
22:08
any of it because you get the sense that
22:10
there's a middleman somewhere because
22:12
you don't understand where like what are
22:15
these numbers I can do this at my house
22:17
you know what I mean this doesn't make
22:19
any sense and it shies you away from
22:21
I've had experiences when they're like
22:22
oh we're working on the dashboard it's
22:24
not ready yet what do you mean how how
22:26
do I gauge how much
22:27
you I would advise you to go to tunecore
22:30
because you have a following you're a
22:32
legend you kidding me you're going to
22:34
cash in on whatever you're worth I don't
22:36
care if it's five dollars or if it's 500
22:38
000 I feel like you deserve that you
22:40
know what I'm saying yeah I'm coming to
22:42
your office with sweat
22:43
whatever
22:48
I got stuff going on man yo I'm telling
22:52
you it's it's amazing
22:54
um you know ship shipping shipping your
22:56
music out to over 200 countries you know
22:58
what I'm saying different places around
22:59
the world we got people on the ground in
23:01
18 over five continents I'm talking
23:04
about reps there a lot of these
23:05
distribution companies they're sending
23:06
your music out around the world but
23:09
there's no one there to work it for you
23:11
so sway who's the person that you
23:13
shouted out that bought him there he
23:15
said and you shouted out a woman Andrea
23:17
uh yeah Andrea yeah shout out to Andrea
23:19
shout out to her because what I will say
23:21
Gleason shout out to Andrea Gleason
23:22
because I think what's been wrong Pat is
23:26
that we need us to talk to us about what
23:31
these things are because what you just
23:33
said can sound completely different
23:35
coming from somebody else do you know
23:37
what I mean it makes sense
23:40
so I'm like okay I'll take them in with
23:43
tune court that sounds yes I get this
23:45
you know what I mean and that's what
23:47
that's what I want to bring to the table
23:49
because I know what it's like to be an
23:50
artist I know how it feels you
23:52
understand what I'm saying and I can
23:53
tell you we don't even look forward to
23:55
making money off our music sometimes we
23:57
look forward to going on the road let's
23:58
be honest yeah yeah I gotta do some
23:59
shows some features I want to touch the
24:01
people I want to be out there because
24:03
they have a soul trick into not looking
24:05
at the profit of the sales of our music
24:08
some of them give you an advance oh you
24:10
haven't recouped yet
24:18
you know I was in Africa and um
24:21
shout out to uh uh a young lady by the
24:25
name of abena who lives in the UK okay
24:28
with the young man by the name of Jake
24:30
they got a company called clock maker
24:32
but they spell it
24:34
c-l-o-k-k-e maker m-a-k-e-r that's the
24:39
old English way of spelling it there
24:41
from the UK and we had this amazing
24:43
conversation we was on our way to
24:45
Michael blackson's help keep the scene
24:47
right here
24:50
I'm coming out of a club I think it was
24:53
called public
24:55
I'm hanging out with Talib kwali that's
24:58
a stunt right there torch anything
25:01
Leticia Leticia Wright from um shuri
25:05
from um Black Panther from Black Panther
25:07
okay this is who I'm hanging out with
25:09
Pap uh cootie from Cootie and chicane
25:12
jivy Grammy Award winning
25:15
was Dave Chappelle there Dave Chappelle
25:24
chance was there I'm sorry Taylor
25:26
Bennett was there too
25:28
um
25:29
and we're having this conversation in
25:31
this man that Jake and abena explain it
25:33
to us exactly what you just said about
25:36
there's money out there that's not being
25:39
accounted for and that the dsps are not
25:42
telling you about it so you might be
25:44
receiving some money but you ain't
25:46
receiving all your money you're not
25:48
you're not receiving only your money
25:50
monetize your YouTube what are you doing
25:52
yeah the YouTube shorts what do you
25:54
think about Tick Tock you know when you
25:56
sign to some of these guys hey we need
25:59
the password to your YouTube yeah we
26:02
this is what they take from you you know
26:04
what I'm saying somebody asked me for
26:05
that we're not gay when I took when I
26:08
took all of that back
26:09
you know how much money I started making
26:11
and I'm like oh this is what these guys
26:13
had going on I had I had a situation
26:15
with them which was over for like a year
26:17
and a half and these and these guys were
26:19
still monetizing my YouTube
26:21
and this is how you know they was wrong
26:22
I found out on a Saturday I said what
26:29
give me my [ __ ] now yo they released it
26:31
to me on a Saturday oh yeah
26:35
they released it on a Saturday my
26:38
password
26:40
because they manage your metrics all the
26:43
artists who watching this right now
26:44
they'll tell you they their Distribution
26:47
Company or their label has that they
26:49
don't control it so when you're with
26:51
tune corn you don't have that issue no
26:53
these people monetize your own [ __ ]
26:55
clock maker and I'm giving this out a
26:57
clo
26:59
um kke
27:00
maker.com they go out and gather the
27:05
money that the dsps oh okay are hiding
27:08
from artists so y'all should check them
27:10
out go to their site very trustworthy
27:13
people they go find the money yeah you
27:16
know uh Tracy yeah I mean it's a great
27:19
time to be independent independent you
27:22
know especially for us in our community
27:24
I think another great
27:27
um company would be United Masters you
27:29
know when I think about this what would
27:30
you say is the difference between
27:31
tunecore and United masters with Steve
27:34
um shout out to shout out to United
27:36
Masters to answer the question tune core
27:38
doesn't have a middleman
27:40
we we deal directly with the dsps
27:43
directly you know what I'm saying
27:45
streaming is streaming is new that's why
27:47
I love what you said about that company
27:48
yeah let me tell y'all real quick
27:49
streaming is new so the guys who learned
27:51
it before the artist and before
27:53
everybody else
27:55
they making out like fat rats
27:57
you understand yeah because how much you
27:59
got to get like what's going on here
28:01
guys like how many streams equal
28:03
it's ridiculous but it's new it's it's
28:06
fairly new so like I said some people
28:09
figured it out early and they they
28:11
robbing clock maker
28:16
c-l-o-k-k-e-m-a-k-e-r we had to let me
28:19
do two things I know Heather has to go
28:21
to Urban view you want to stay what do
28:23
you yeah
28:28
no no no I had to gotta go to Urban view
28:31
um I'm gonna take this call from K2 from
28:33
Florida go ahead real quick you okay
28:36
okay what's your question what's going
28:38
on family what's your question
28:41
all right my question is how I mean he
28:44
pretty much already answered it though
28:46
okay thank you okay all right you good
28:48
man peace all right go gargle
28:52
yeah
28:53
be from Mississippi you have a question
28:56
[Music]
28:58
it's cool 100. sound like Motley yo D
29:02
you got a question
29:03
what's wrong with everybody's phone if
29:05
that's it's time to go okay okay
29:08
the legendary Chuck D came here
29:10
yesterday yeah I missed that one man uh
29:13
well we told them you were coming
29:15
yeah and he said I got a question for
29:18
Papoose
29:19
all right here it is let's go man Pat
29:23
could you invent another alphabet if you
29:25
invent another alphabet let me
29:27
artistically create the font
29:29
wow man from Chuck D bro that's so crazy
29:33
I might you know what I was thinking the
29:34
other day like I tried so many times to
29:37
do other things that would be on the
29:40
level of alphabetical Slaughter and I
29:42
failed every time you know what I'm
29:43
saying um so that so not too long ago
29:45
it's crazy he said that I was like damn
29:46
maybe I should just do another alphabet
29:49
with all different words you can't use
29:52
the same word twice so
29:54
I'll try Chuck I don't know if I can do
29:56
it though now see see see see that's the
29:59
language we ain't in no more you can do
30:02
it you're already doing it it's done
30:04
it's already in the process it started
30:07
alphabetical slaughtered it took me a
30:09
long time to do that bro like I have
30:12
read as a child that I had came across
30:14
the fact that Malcolm X read the entire
30:15
dictionary so I was like wow I want to
30:17
try that so as I'm doing it I caught the
30:20
idea alphabetical Slaughter but I had to
30:23
read the entire dictionary from the
30:24
beginning to the end oh my God I'm
30:27
saying so I yo bro I said I said in the
30:30
crib and it took me a while I only had
30:31
three letters at one point in time I
30:33
only had that's how I knew it was crazy
30:34
I only had it from a to c so back in the
30:38
days when I would get into a battle in
30:39
the street if the dude didn't tap out I
30:42
would do alphabet name like oh but
30:44
battle's over
30:47
yeah so I was like you know what I gotta
30:50
finish this and I went back in the craft
30:52
and it took me months
30:54
yeah to be honest I don't know I could
30:56
try though you could try he got a new
30:57
job Chuck give him some time all right
31:00
hey man you're beautiful bro you're a
31:02
great person great individual brother
31:04
your contribution to this culture and
31:06
our lives and our community has been
31:08
amazing yes I'm nothing but happy for
31:11
you with this new position at tunecore
31:13
tune core you did something man you did
31:15
it tunecore right decisions
31:17
[Applause]
31:19
Melanie you you a fool for this one
31:22
Melanie Amy Amy we love you Amy
31:31
I drink cream juice all right uh Pap
31:35
congratulations if artists want to reach
31:38
you or do they have a tune core pla um
31:40
yes yes Papoose at tunecore.com you can
31:43
email me right now also go to
31:47
www.tooncore.com sign up right now
31:49
become Your Own Boss tune core puts the
31:52
artist first these other guys don't best
31:55
Distribution Company in the world let me
31:57
say it correctly my guy Papoose man
31:59
congratulations thank you for having me
32:01
absolutely you have to be headed to
32:02
Urban view go check her out on Urban
32:03
view I hit her up after happy hour whb
32:06
say what's up to the kids
32:08
tell them I'm working and just get more
32:11
visible so they'll know who I am
32:14
none of the [ __ ] I'm doing no man I
32:16
explained it to them they get it now nah
32:18
I gotta do it they gotta they gotta come
32:20
across me right somewhere and go yo dad
32:22
I saw that one exactly some of your work
32:25
yeah I got it don't worry oh cause you
32:26
know what's crazy real fast my daughter
32:28
loves Mary J Blige okay so her favorite
32:30
song is so amazing featuring DJ Khaled
32:32
so one the other day this the baby yeah
32:34
Cali came on the screen she was like
32:36
daddy that's the guy from Mary J Blige
32:38
song
32:42
as long as she knows like long as she
32:45
knows me so we're gonna figure it out
32:47
all right we want to thank um two
32:49
Marquan Smith the the executive producer
32:52
of Godfather Harlem for coming by shout
32:54
out to him man I'm trying to get on that
32:56
show where do I audition I asked him in
32:57
the hallway yeah I'm gonna follow up
32:58
with you I'm gonna connect y'all thank
33:00
you all right cause you'll be doping
33:01
what he got coming up to be honest with
33:03
you
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