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May 11, 2022
The debut novel from Walking Dead actor Norman Reedus follows three thematically connected yet narratively unrelated people as they journey to find themselves. He talks about how the book came together with the Sway In The Morning team ad much more.
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[Applause]
0:01
right there man
0:03
we got this guy back i didn't think we'd
0:04
get him twice in one lifetime mike mules
0:06
this is amazing yo he's here two times
0:10
i'm really popular in the hood because i
0:11
know this guy i tell him our friendship
0:13
runs deeper than it ever did but who
0:15
cares he's not there to deny it
0:16
[Laughter]
0:17
[Music]
0:19
big fan of this guy uh i know db was
0:22
excited when his name came across the
0:23
list db you want to do the honors you
0:25
want to do the honors absolutely because
0:26
uh i picked that uh trailer for the
0:28
walking dead because i found an
0:30
interesting parallel how uh there's a
0:32
part in it where it says we're putting
0:33
the world back together again because uh
0:35
norman was one of our last guests that
0:37
we had on the show before we vacated the
0:39
studios because of kovitz
0:44
norman no i'm just kidding but uh he's
0:45
uh i mean he's done so much work i mean
0:47
the boondock saints which i heard may be
0:49
coming back we can get into that uh he's
0:51
also part of a legendary video game that
0:53
will never see the light of day pt and
0:55
then he reunited with hideo kojima in
0:57
death stranding but of course he's part
0:58
of the final season of walking dead but
1:00
there's also going to be a spin-off
1:01
which we can talk about as well but now
1:02
today he's here to talk about his book
1:04
the ravage dedicated to his son which i
1:06
thought was very beautiful and he's back
1:08
here today norman reedus
1:12
[Applause]
1:17
because you did a lot of work and we
1:18
even tap into all of it you know what i
1:20
mean we've been winning a long time yeah
1:23
and and thank you
1:24
really what you did is we got two years
1:26
off in the studio because of you that
1:28
virus you brought up here
1:29
you know now we're back because of you
1:31
you're one of our first guests um uh
1:34
dedicating the book to your son that
1:35
meant a lot right yeah you know um he
1:38
when i was little when he was little he
1:39
uh he woke me up one morning we had a
1:41
place in chinatown and he he was shaking
1:44
me away can he and he goes he goes papa
1:46
i love you like the ocean and he was
1:48
really little so i kind of put that
1:50
everywhere yeah
1:51
wow
1:52
wow yeah it was really cute
1:55
yeah well now he's older and doesn't
1:56
really give a
1:58
how old is he now 21.
2:02
do you have a drink with him
2:06
i would probably yeah yeah yeah yeah
2:08
you know it's it's you know
2:10
there's been a few times where i'm
2:12
walking back to my apartment from a
2:14
night out and he'll walk by the other
2:16
side of the street and i'm like
2:17
these two worlds are colliding
2:20
i don't know if i like this right now
2:22
you know
2:23
do y'all talk relationships
2:25
uh oh yeah yeah we do and me and his
2:28
mother are still really good friends so
2:30
yeah i'm kind of friends with all my
2:32
exes which is just a good thing i think
2:35
but uh yeah
2:37
we kind of get into his relationships i
2:38
think mom really gets into his
2:40
relationships maybe too much
2:42
uh and i try and he's like it's fine dad
2:46
i was hoping you could see this is
2:47
interesting we had a debate the other
2:49
day me and a bunch of friends about
2:51
okay fathers who like move on from the
2:54
relationship
2:55
but you still have like a young kid who
2:57
lives with the mom so when mother's day
2:59
comes around and the kid is like seven
3:02
do you give the kid money to buy the
3:03
mother a gift like even if you're in a
3:06
relationship with somebody else
3:09
no no no no we we we don't really do do
3:11
it that way i mean i get her a gift of
3:13
course you would get her a gift okay so
3:15
you still get her a gift no matter what
3:17
even if you're in
3:18
thank you she got flowers
3:20
yesterday she got she got her stuff even
3:21
yesterday at 21 your son is 21 you still
3:24
got the mother of your child but not
3:26
through him he's on his own right that's
3:28
right right right but you respect her
3:30
right that's nice
3:33
you don't know
3:35
i i thought child support was you know
3:37
part of the game
3:38
it's appreciation this is well
3:40
negotiation
3:42
the debate wasn't with suede normally
3:43
but this is how this whole thing started
3:45
we started with norman was playing child
3:47
support you're right you know yeah i
3:49
mean we're pretty cool when it comes to
3:51
stuff like that um
3:53
but
3:54
it's he he's always been the type that
3:57
would make a present not buy a present
3:59
got it he's kind of that guy okay he's
4:01
artsy fartsy like me got you okay i love
4:03
it i love it though that's good all
4:05
right man sway said child support so you
4:07
can save some money norman don't grow on
4:09
trees yeah
4:10
yes you know you gotta be getting a gift
4:12
that's what it's all about um you also
4:15
have this great show he was talking off
4:17
mike about it uh ride with norman reedus
4:19
on amc
4:21
and you go out on bikes and you take
4:23
people out on bikes and have these
4:24
interesting conversations and
4:26
it's very uh it's very organic how did
4:29
that come about uh yeah i ride a
4:31
motorcycle every day to walking dead and
4:32
one of the producers on the show it's
4:34
always like uh you know insurance should
4:37
you be riding a bike to work and
4:39
and one of the producers uh the
4:41
executives at amc came up he came up
4:43
with an idea sort of a bourdain style
4:45
show where we traveled around and
4:47
we originally did it it was kind of a
4:49
gear head show talking about engines and
4:51
seats and what and whatnot
4:52
and uh
4:54
everywhere we went it became like a fan
4:56
invasion you know that people just
4:59
first off we roll
5:00
we roll into like six escalades and a
5:02
security like there's no way to hide it
5:04
you know
5:05
but then uh
5:07
they would just you know jump all over
5:08
us and uh we sort of changed the show to
5:11
include them so it became sort of a
5:13
people us out on the road show
5:15
and it became way more fun to be honest
5:18
but yeah uh i was in
5:20
new zealand with josh brolin uh right
5:22
when the pandemic a minute he just died
5:24
give him an owl give him hanging out in
5:26
new zealand
5:28
josh brolin you know norman look he's so
5:31
it's so normal for him he's like what's
5:32
the big deal
5:38
was in new zealand we were in new
5:39
zealand when right when the pandemic hit
5:41
we were on our way to italy and i
5:43
stopped in l.a
5:45
and amc said you're not going anywhere
5:47
italy's on lockdown
5:48
and
5:49
that's when this book started so i
5:51
started writing the book while i had all
5:53
this free time and
5:54
they
5:55
i mean about every year someone comes to
5:57
me and asks me to write a book about my
5:58
life and i don't want to get beat up so
6:00
i don't do that
6:02
so they you know
6:04
wow
6:05
yeah do i get like a noise
6:08
that was an actual person right
6:10
i could do it again
6:11
wow
6:15
that's interesting yeah because so many
6:16
people have like memoirs you know what i
6:18
mean we've become so accustomed to
6:20
seeing that be the book route for a
6:22
celebrity
6:23
yeah and you chose not to yeah my
6:25
attorney was like what do you mean a
6:26
book of fiction what are you talking
6:28
about uh but you know i have a
6:29
production company
6:31
and i'm always looking for things to be
6:33
a television show or a movie or whatnot
6:35
and so i have all these stories that
6:36
i've started have started and
6:39
there's a theme in the book where you
6:41
know like you were talking thank you for
6:42
reading it by the way no absolutely
6:43
super cool yeah yeah um
6:45
but there's a theme where people are
6:47
finding a sense of family
6:49
either running to something or running
6:50
from something and they sort of
6:54
in the least uh in the places least
6:56
likely they find a sense of family and
6:58
that's and they kind of put their own
7:00
two feet on the ground so that's kind of
7:02
what it's about when you mention that i
7:04
think of the story of anne you know and
7:07
um
7:09
ann was someone who you could tell this
7:11
better than i can that fleed her home um
7:14
after
7:15
experiencing violence at the hand of her
7:17
big brother and found herself train
7:19
hopping you know with um
7:21
a character by the name of cinnamon and
7:23
then trot which was her her best friend
7:25
right
7:26
and and in it you're just hearing all of
7:28
these
7:29
metaphoric
7:30
conversations to me yeah as i'm reading
7:33
this book that train to me and the way i
7:35
interpret it was your journey in life
7:38
you know and all the different the
7:40
different type of
7:42
uh trains that you could jump on a
7:44
grainer or a tanker or these different
7:46
things you know that uh that you could
7:48
kind of
7:49
train hoppers they got to find the best
7:52
uh what do you call a container to jump
7:54
into you jump into an empty container
7:56
like a i can't think of a container
7:58
where you could jump into and they'll
7:59
fill it with rocks you might be able to
8:01
sleep in that container you might
8:03
turn it it might kill you but it's about
8:05
the choices you make in which you learn
8:06
from these choices and in the case of
8:08
ann you she found out that she didn't
8:10
find family with blood relatives she
8:13
found family with friends right yeah
8:15
yeah wow i love that you got that yeah
8:18
yeah that's awesome um yeah i'm all over
8:20
you brother yeah yeah
8:22
trying to go to new zealand with you the
8:23
next time
8:27
so what i was thinking when i was
8:29
reading that i was like how did this is
8:31
applicable to your life
8:33
you know
8:34
you know the hunter story is a lot of my
8:36
life um
8:38
you know how that opens up with a fight
8:40
at a motorcycle shop you know over an
8:42
animal that happened to me
8:44
uh some of his tattoos or my tattoos my
8:46
father was a traveling salesman
8:49
and wasn't around a lot but would drop
8:51
these like stories you know on me and
8:54
i'd
8:55
be like what the hell is he talking
8:56
about and then later on i'm like oh i
8:58
met somebody that makes sense that was a
9:00
lesson there
9:01
so a lot of his stories me and then
9:05
the businessman that that story is
9:07
bananas yeah because
9:09
i'm doing ride and i'm coming from costa
9:11
rica to uruguay
9:13
and how that works is the bikes that i
9:15
use they leapfrog locations and so
9:18
a unit will wrap up in costa rica
9:20
they'll send b unit i'll jump on a plane
9:23
for the last minute race and start the
9:25
process and then a unit catches up when
9:27
we start the show
9:29
so
9:30
so
9:31
i'm sitting on a plane
9:32
covered in dust because it's a dirt
9:34
episode in costa rica
9:36
and i have a backpack on the ground
9:38
there's sand coming out of it
9:40
i must smell horrible and
9:42
i'm sitting on the plane there's a
9:43
businessman next to me he's got these
9:45
little short shorts on right and he's
9:46
kind of looking at me
9:48
and people are going up and down there
9:49
asking for a picture and whatnot and
9:51
after a while he goes who are you
9:53
i said oh i'm on a tv show that's that's
9:54
what that is
9:56
and so we start talking and
9:59
his mother died and
10:01
he runs one of the largest fortune 500
10:03
companies in the world right i didn't
10:05
even ask him what it was i was like if
10:06
he's gonna tell me i'll i'll let him
10:08
tell me
10:09
so his mother dies and says you know you
10:11
should run away
10:13
do me a favor run away
10:14
doesn't know what she means then a year
10:16
later his wife dies
10:18
and he doesn't have family he doesn't
10:20
really know
10:22
what to do with himself he tells
10:23
everybody hey i'm gonna go
10:24
go away for a while can you watch the
10:26
company they say sure take your time so
10:28
he'd meet somebody that said you should
10:29
go to chile he's like okay you go to
10:31
argentina
10:32
all right
10:34
and he's sitting there with tears in his
10:35
eyes and he goes because you know i've
10:37
spent my whole life trying to make money
10:39
because i wasted my whole life
10:42
and it just it hit me and so i ran with
10:45
that story
10:46
and there was
10:47
there was parts of his story that i was
10:49
going to intertwine with cinnamon and
10:53
you know but it just it hit me and it
10:55
just stayed in my head and i kind of
10:57
ended up
10:58
morphing this whole idea that way you
11:00
know wow that was a um
11:02
this is this book is a series of stories
11:05
too right and it and then i i read a
11:08
a review on it that said it's a quick
11:10
rapid pace read and it really was so
11:12
that's why i was able to get through the
11:14
book last night on the plane i flew in
11:15
from oakland to here just to see you by
11:18
the way i just thought i thought out
11:19
there
11:20
still bucking for that trip
11:23
baby i'm starting to get on that ride
11:25
but you know the east bay dragons yes
11:28
yes that was one of my first episodes of
11:30
ride with the east bay dragons reputable
11:33
heritage bike club out of oakland they
11:35
work they do a lot in the community
11:37
they're legendary yeah i've we had a
11:40
conversation with a young man by the
11:42
name of wallow who has a very big
11:45
popular podcast called a million dollars
11:47
worth the game and we were talking about
11:49
the money that's come since they've had
11:51
so much success and he said to me sway
11:53
the money don't mean nothing
11:55
if you don't have family yeah right and
11:57
that's what came to mind you could be
11:59
the richest man in the world but without
12:01
anyone to share it with what difference
12:03
does it make right totally true you ever
12:05
felt like that with your success like
12:07
i'm having all this success yeah yeah
12:10
you know um
12:12
you know i've done 12 years on a
12:14
television show i've done the other show
12:16
while i'm doing that show i do art shows
12:18
all over the world all the time i have a
12:20
production company
12:22
did the book i've done musical things
12:24
like i'm always doing something and i
12:27
have a friend of mine in l.a
12:29
named balthazar
12:31
and he's like dude you you need to stop
12:33
and smell the roses yeah and i'm like
12:36
yeah i know
12:37
then i meet that guy and then i'm like i
12:39
need to stop and smell the roses you
12:41
know people are like you know when are
12:42
you going to retire i'm like tomorrow
12:44
i've been saying that for years
12:46
but i'm just one of those guys that i
12:48
can't sit still i think i don't know but
12:51
you know
12:53
i didn't grow up with a real heavy sense
12:55
of family but now that i have kids of my
12:57
own
12:58
that's probably why i'm friends with all
12:59
the exes and
13:00
you know i like i like to keep everyone
13:02
around me so
13:04
that's that's it's very true yeah i
13:06
think about it
13:08
this book is it feels
13:10
semi-autobiographical in terms of
13:12
right right you know experiences and
13:14
what you learn from it not the actual
13:16
you know circumstances of these
13:17
characters but
13:19
i'm hearing what you learned through
13:20
your life through these characters yeah
13:22
you know and i had help i'm not going to
13:23
pretend i i'm a frank bill yeah who's
13:26
amazing yeah and i went through several
13:28
people
13:29
before him like where we got into it and
13:32
then i'm like you're not going to work
13:33
and then you know that over and over
13:36
you know i'm like help me paint a room
13:38
like help me i want to smell smoke in
13:40
the air in a bar you know and then be
13:42
like well what then what happens with a
13:43
plane ball out of the sky i'm like no
13:44
dude just help me paint the room you
13:46
know
13:47
frank is a whiskey drinking
13:50
southern dude dude you know and he's
13:54
you know like there's a lot of power
13:55
lifting in the thing that you mean
13:56
that's that's right
13:58
i was like yeah and i'm like can we
13:59
bring back the power lifting a little
14:00
bit
14:01
you're quite eloquent as a writer bro
14:04
yeah you know that was a lot of work
14:06
okay a lot of work i won't pretend i
14:08
wasn't there because i definitely was
14:09
but
14:10
uh you know there's elements that sort
14:12
of seep in here and there but he was
14:15
really fun to work with and we just
14:17
started a second one not me and him me
14:19
and somebody else
14:20
okay look we got norman reedus here the
14:22
book is called the ravaged uh with frank
14:25
bill i'll be remiss if i didn't let db
14:27
you see him over there he's aching to
14:29
get in there db db uh you you kind of
14:31
started off uh with the question i
14:33
wanted to ask where you uh brought up
14:34
how the beginning of the book starts in
14:35
this harley-davidson shop and this guy's
14:37
gets into a fight and everything like
14:38
that and that was similar to uh last
14:40
time when you came by you talked about
14:42
how you got discovered you were working
14:43
in a harley shop and then somebody
14:44
suggested you take acting courses and
14:46
things like that so i picked up on that
14:47
early on and then there's also that kind
14:49
of underlying sense of discovery that
14:51
you just touched on as well with finding
14:53
family through friends or other uh
14:56
stories that people live similar lives
14:57
and things like that so um with the
14:59
walking dead and everything like that
15:01
how do you find the balance of making
15:03
your work still meaningful and
15:05
fulfilling for you but not working
15:07
solely for the purpose of i need to
15:09
uh uphold this lifestyle or you know
15:12
live a certain way like i want i want my
15:13
life to feel like i'm doing something
15:15
meaningful yeah you know
15:17
i didn't realize until the book was done
15:19
that
15:20
my
15:21
trajectory of storyline kind of is
15:24
similar to daryl like he finds a sense
15:25
of family on the road and whatnot
15:27
but it you know
15:29
i i'm one of those guys like i i can
15:31
live off like 30 a month like no problem
15:34
like i've done it most of my life
15:37
i i don't it's not really the lifestyle
15:39
i get enough money and like
15:41
you know what i mean which is enough but
15:43
it's not really that but i you know i
15:45
started walking dead like i was
15:47
it's important for me to bookend it for
15:50
some weird reason like
15:52
i helped birth that baby you know and i
15:54
want to see it grow all the way so
15:57
to me it became very personal that story
15:58
i i think you know it's not like a movie
16:00
where you you do something and you give
16:03
it your all and you move on to the next
16:04
like
16:05
like people have seen me in real time
16:07
for 12 years like gray hair on my chin
16:09
like that's crazy you know yeah and i've
16:12
taken so much of other characters on
16:14
that show and
16:16
i make decisions now
16:18
as daryl based on
16:20
on scott wilson rick like what i learned
16:23
from people along the way so it's become
16:24
super personal to me
16:26
so
16:27
i don't know i think
16:28
you know there is there is something
16:30
about working for a big money-making
16:31
machine you know and everybody is a an
16:33
action figure and
16:35
you know i i i you know we used to think
16:38
that
16:39
rick and i used to read that book the
16:40
road to each other was because we
16:42
thought oh um mccarthy yeah and john
16:45
hooker made a movie about it yeah
16:47
and uh we thought that we would be super
16:49
skinny and have like three teeth and
16:52
we'd just be crazy animals
16:54
we thought that's where we were headed
16:56
you know and the show got bigger and
16:58
bigger and bigger and
16:59
you know everyone was an action figure
17:01
everyone's pants started getting tighter
17:02
they're sort of being makeup on people
17:04
and i'm like
17:05
wait wait wait wait where are we going
17:07
what are you doing
17:09
everybody pants started getting tired
17:12
t-shirts that's the song
17:15
if you look i'm still wearing the same
17:17
pants from season two i think wow
17:20
which is crazy but you know me and scott
17:22
wilson we made we're like let's just let
17:24
our hair grow yeah let's go we're gonna
17:26
get animals let's just do animals
17:28
and uh
17:30
you know sometimes like you're the only
17:31
one left doing it you know a little bit
17:33
um but uh
17:36
you know it's it's i get it that you
17:38
know you work for something that's
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they're there to make money mm-hmm you
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have that
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keep going but you try to you try to
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hang on to something real at the same
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time mm-hmm
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norman reedus is with us tracy g you
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want to jump in yeah i'm curious
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although i kind of have a hunch i know
17:52
where you'll go with this but confirm
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why did you choose to make the ravaged a
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book versus like a screenplay or
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something written for television
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uh well i had i was offered a book deal
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okay that's why
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tracy yeah yeah
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the quick answer right there
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okay there's that thing where you own
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the ip yeah it's an original thing you
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own the ip and you can do anything with
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it like if i'm trying to get a book that
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you wrote then i got to pay you to get
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the thing we got to talk about it and
18:18
agree on everything so if i if i own it
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from the get go then
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long thinking
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d.b you mentioned a spin-off
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from walking dead yeah they haven't
18:30
announced a title but of course like um
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there's sort of uh the excitement of
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these the stories continuing but there's
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also a little bit of fans are i guess
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upset may be a strong word but that it's
18:42
like you're letting us know that certain
18:44
characters are not going to be affected
18:46
by what happens in this season right so
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it's hard to kind of walk that line of
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there's something coming in the future
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but also not spoiling what's going to
18:54
happen in the final season so that's all
18:56
that's kind of a hard line to dance on
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with fans and a series that has
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continued for this long that that ain't
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me
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i i probably would have preferred them
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not announcing that i was going to live
19:09
through the whole thing or or certain
19:10
characters but they you know
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it it's all business yeah you know what
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i mean they need to make the
19:16
announcements to sell the advertising
19:17
and that in that spot before the thing
19:19
happens so it can be paid for like it's
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all business
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so you know
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we're lucky that that our business cares
19:26
about the story but it is a business you
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know and uh
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you know maybe they're lying to you i
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don't know
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what about boondock saints can you uh
19:36
expand on that you know that that's that
19:38
was really fun to make i i don't know
19:41
if it fits anymore to be honest uh
19:45
you know i i don't know i i don't know
19:47
and you know that director burnt a lot
19:49
of bridges to be honest with you uh
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you know
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did you ever see a film called the
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overnight
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uh no i didn't watch that okay next time
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we come here just watch over there i got
20:02
you he kind of it started in the the
20:04
cover of it is him holding a super 8
20:06
camera to his head like he's
20:08
making the wrong choices in life you
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know what i'm saying so
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uh
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i don't know i i think it'd be fun to do
20:15
another one i don't know yet
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no one's giving me any paperwork to
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sorry got it
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norman reedus man this dude answers
20:22
everything we ask him i like this man
20:24
that's a great voice he's with a great
20:26
voice oh i was like man this voice yo
20:29
that's good is that the real voice man
20:32
is that like
20:33
you know michael jackson had a couple of
20:34
voices
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[Laughter]
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see the moon walk out to build coming to
20:46
work next week and be like yo i saw this
20:47
great animation and some of the db but
20:49
that's normal he's like what he tricked
20:51
me i didn't know that
20:53
yeah
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mike moose get in here man you can't let
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this man walk out without asking him one
20:58
question yeah no of course i'm really
21:00
curious about the thought process the
21:02
ceo that you sit next to on the plane
21:04
that kind of inspired the character in
21:05
this book and this idea was you know to
21:07
reconcile how to enjoy what you have but
21:09
live life to its fullest i mean you're
21:11
almost at dovetails into your life and i
21:12
think a lot of us are wrestling with
21:13
that like this pandemic has taught us a
21:15
lot to sit still right in a piece of
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life how how does a journey end right
21:19
does this this character and maybe even
21:21
for yourself personally like
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how do you get yourself free are you
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continuously on this journey of choosing
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self or how do you reconcile choosing
21:28
self with the demands of the world
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me personally or that character in the
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book both actually yeah well the
21:34
character in the book does the opposite
21:35
of what you think he's going to do he
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makes
21:38
he makes a decision to not be him
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anymore
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and so
21:42
when he gets he gets to a point where
21:46
he can go back to that lifestyle of his
21:48
big house and easy stuff and he goes
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and he runs so that it's i just can't do
21:54
the ending of the book
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um with me i think uh
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it's hard for me to do something that
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isn't personal i end up there anyway uh
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i've done a lot of
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photography books and a lot i do a lot
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of art shows all over the world all the
22:07
time and you know
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those do really well selling wise but
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you know they'll be like let's get on
22:14
the next one let's do the next one
22:15
you're ready for the next one and
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i'll have
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hard drives full of photographs but
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until i have the group that i want in
22:23
the direction i want to go i tell
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everyone to hold up so unless it means
22:28
something i can't really do it i'm not
22:30
i'm not this guy just throwing throwing
22:32
it out there yeah yeah i'm not good at
22:35
that because then i had to talk about it
22:38
so i don't just it kind of works
22:42
in a way that's
22:43
taken me a long time to get comfortable
22:44
with i like that is that your north star
22:46
guide you yeah yeah your personal
22:48
intuition
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um norman reedus man we could sit and
22:52
talk with you all day because your voice
22:53
is so calming
22:56
man do you you know uh with a column
22:59
what is it columnist cloud is do you
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know the different type of clouds
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oh i want to hear that share please
23:06
you know about this healing the ones
23:08
full of water that are about to dump
23:10
rain is that yeah
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yeah yeah yeah
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not really oh okay okay
23:16
i'm thinking like how to sell doritos
23:17
what about icloud
23:21
not really to be honest
23:23
what about cloudy judgment all right you
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know
23:26
i'm well aware of that i'm not clouds in
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your coffee
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uh well norman thank you for joining us
23:34
today
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and this book is an excellent read i'm
23:37
reading through it and i'm hearing a lot
23:39
of gems i'm hearing a lot of one-liners
23:42
that i could say to my 23 year old
23:44
daughter you know even when anne was
23:46
asking how do you know when to jump off
23:49
on a train when they want to train and
23:50
explaining the different trains how do
23:52
you know when to jump off i remember a
23:55
part that was a part of one of the
23:56
stories where the father had given the
23:58
son advice about always treat women well
24:02
always treat animals well was it right
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yeah
24:06
what what kind of advice do you give
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your son
24:08
you know i i'll tell you i'll tell you a
24:10
quote okay real quick that this girl
24:11
over here jess taught me jess jess hey
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jeff what's up jazz in the building what
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up jay boogie and then she taught me one
24:18
that uh is the juice worth the squeeze
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right yeah
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it's my new favorite quote wow is the
24:26
juice worth the squeeze yeah
24:38
that helps discern me i sound like a
24:39
black person said that josh
24:42
you steal that
24:43
i did okay
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it's the juice worth the squeeze thank
24:57
you for leaving us with that jail
24:58
brother that's great
25:01
appreciate you
25:02
norman reedus um make sure you get the
25:04
book who has a great art name by the way
25:06
so yeah so you can buy a norman reedus
25:09
somebody could have you said you do it's
25:11
crazy that video game you were talking
25:12
about they just they might hold my uh
25:14
digital dna so that they can put me in
25:17
movies for the rest of my life after i'm
25:18
gone
25:19
so yeah you can buy a normal arena wow
25:22
that's a great partnership yeah it's got
25:23
a lot of nfc too good is that good
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really yeah
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uh i've been asked to do it but i
25:36
haven't really done it walking dead put
25:38
some
25:39
put some things in there but uh i
25:40
haven't done my own okay in time nice i
25:43
don't totally understand it or why but
25:45
you know i might
25:47
just do it all the cool kids are doing
25:49
it norman yeah
25:50
snoop just bought a basketball team off
25:52
and of course cool kids think yeah i
25:53
think
25:54
the big three yeah he bought two
25:57
yes all using nfcs you're a snoop fan
26:00
right mm-hmm i am yeah you should have
26:02
him on the show yeah i was talking about
26:04
snoop this morning i was like i think he
26:06
has a rule where his
26:08
management and publicist and everybody
26:10
else can't reach him after 8 p.m
26:13
i think somewhere he's got i got kids
26:15
like after eight
26:16
stops is the juice worth the squeeze
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thank you he got it
26:20
never looked back that's really what he
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did
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snoop got that i'm going to sleep money
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exactly
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hey norman thanks for coming through man
26:37
absolutely brother pleasure's ours
26:38
pleasures are we got a little celebrity
26:40
wire coming up that's right that's right
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and it's gonna be crazy i'm gonna tell
26:43
you more about snoop and his son and a
26:45
stolen car say four five
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you
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