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Jun 9, 2022
Maino and Jim Jones join forces on a new album 'The Lobby Boyz'. The two stopped by Sway In The Morning to talk about it.
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Maino & Jim Jones Talk New Project 'The Lobby Boyz' Feat Benny The Butcher, Fivio Foreign and more
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they making theme music right now
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the lobby boys are making theme music
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this is the music you put on when you
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wake up in the morning you don't feel
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like it thanks
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it's the music you put on when you know
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you about to face somebody at work that
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you really don't like
0:24
you put this music on when you about to
0:25
go catch that seven-figure deal tracy g
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you put this on that's right they got a
0:30
few anthems on here you gon you need to
0:32
put on
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come on man we not talking about your
0:36
average guys right now i promise we not
0:39
[ __ ] the rap business
0:41
it's bigger than rap
0:44
rap was the tool
0:46
it was the resource it was the asset
0:48
they saw something bigger for themselves
0:50
they needed to get to it how can i get
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to it
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because what i'm doing in this lobby
0:55
ain't working
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think what you doing right now calloway
0:59
what i'm doing in this lobby don't have
1:01
a big promise for me i already know
1:03
where it ends up i've seen it a thousand
1:05
times before it's happened to people
1:07
before me it's happening to people now
1:09
it's gonna happen to people after me i'm
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different
1:12
i'm special
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i'm doing what kendrick did in that song
1:17
when he's used the voice of nipsy i'm
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speaking to you in mano's talk
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this is mano's consciousness i'm
1:24
speaking through i'm channeling this
1:25
[ __ ]
1:26
he saw something bigger
1:29
that's what he did with this rap game he
1:31
understood that his trials and
1:33
tribulations his lack of guidance as a
1:35
kid that forced him to make choices that
1:38
now he realized may not have been the
1:40
best no pun
1:43
good one tracy
1:44
but it helped him shape and mold him to
1:46
who he is today and he shares it with us
1:49
throughout this whole album but man
1:51
i don't know what got into him had to be
1:53
i don't know who he mad at
1:56
i don't know what happened he got us a
1:57
lot of hits in the past maybe they
1:59
didn't recognize it big enough we did
2:01
he's playing them [ __ ] every single day
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i don't know if he was like man i'm
2:06
about to do this full album with jim i
2:08
gotta make sure i'm you know jimmy go
2:10
out wrap me up
2:11
[Laughter]
2:14
i don't know what he said but when you
2:16
tune into these songs i just played that
2:18
climb back that was my i couldn't stop
2:20
playing that last night my neighbors are
2:22
pissed ooh
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lobby boys anthem we gonna play that
2:25
yeah man before i even introduce him
2:27
play that lot pull that lobby boys after
2:29
i am only want to talk to him right now
2:30
i just want to hear him rap okay [ __ ] we
2:33
don't you know
2:34
let's go
2:48
those are the artists some of the
2:49
artists are still that we still see
2:51
today right from
2:52
jay-z
2:54
deluxe uh nasa uh dip said like we still
2:58
outside a lot of these artists let me
3:00
just compete and make money that's right
3:02
in 2022 you hear that those orators
3:06
those are gatekeepers right now that's a
3:07
good point yeah
3:09
the 80s got cheated
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they cheated the 80s
3:14
the 80s were the example they were the
3:15
guinea pigs they took the publishing
3:18
they gave them shitty royalties
3:21
they gave them slave contracts
3:23
but god bless them i just had a
3:25
conversation with easy ad from the cold
3:27
crutch brothers you go on our site
3:29
and hear about that story that's why we
3:30
got to celebrate them yeah
3:32
we have to do it the business ain't
3:34
going to take care of nobody absolutely
3:36
not the business not in love with you
3:38
because you make art
3:41
they love with you because your art make
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money
3:45
and if they don't make money they look
3:46
there's no love they don't make sense
3:49
so they push the 80 artists to the side
3:52
but those voices that you heard now
3:54
i want you to listen to thoroughly
3:56
because they have nothing to give but
3:58
gems
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and i say this because i tune in to them
4:02
i watch the roles that they've evolved
4:04
into mayna was a wild guy man
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yeah
4:12
yeah
4:14
now he's prophesizing yeah
4:17
now he's
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you you're in such what
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thank you for the applause thank you man
4:24
when i listen to this album i i've
4:26
always heard you rap with vigor
4:28
and excitement mm-hmm
4:30
that's that's gentle
4:32
right there hold up man
4:33
let me just get the plots going again
4:35
man
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ladies and gentlemen he's all purpose
4:40
his fashion is impeccable his fashion is
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impeccable look at that
4:45
his business sense is to be admired he's
4:47
a mogul
4:49
you can see him on all heights baby you
4:51
can see him rather he's at the white
4:53
house or at taft
4:55
you can see him everywhere
4:57
you can see him in the bay hanging out
4:59
with filthy rich and killer fonte yes
5:02
i know the stories
5:05
i know what goes on behind the curtain
5:08
ladies and gentlemen
5:10
el capo himself jim jones
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he looked great too how y'all feeling
5:17
beautiful man i've been 15 minutes i've
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been hyping y'all up jim
5:21
sorry [ __ ] 15 minutes i'll be
5:23
forgetting some of this [ __ ] is live man
5:25
i'm sorry oh man you don't have to
5:26
apologize thank you
5:29
thank you for what for coming late okay
5:31
so let me tell you why i say thank you
5:34
you go you ain't late you're on time
5:35
brother told you
5:42
damn sway man what i'm supposed to do
5:44
about this man
5:45
he's harlow [ __ ] you in harlem
5:47
sway why they gotta be fashionably lazy
5:49
what is that about man everything about
5:51
fashion even when they lay
5:54
you know
5:56
um i i want to commend you
5:59
you you you've touching a few of my
6:01
family members you don't even know me no
6:03
me
6:03
you touch a few of my family members and
6:05
i normally don't go off and say it but
6:08
you you know i've had jay walt out of
6:10
oakland approach me and say what do you
6:11
think of jim jones i said how you know
6:13
jim
6:14
he said jim approached me you said he
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saw what i'm doing i said jim is an
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amazing person and if he sees you that
6:20
means you worth being seen
6:23
my cousin killer fonte yes
6:27
said that you liked one of his pictures
6:29
we just had killer fontaine on the show
6:30
last week in l.a
6:32
he's dope he'd be [ __ ] with filthy
6:34
right now he's yeah filthy rich and
6:36
there's some big things happening in the
6:37
bay yeah and see this is what i'm saying
6:39
jim is touching down on every and on
6:42
every region right he don't want nothing
6:44
he's offering something
6:46
based on i'm assuming the [ __ ] he been
6:49
through so he want to make sure
6:50
everybody get it you know get it good
6:52
yeah something like that yeah or
6:54
something like that it's not like i like
6:55
i mean i like good music i like i like
6:57
to see the
6:58
younger generation flourish um wasn't
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people like me in my position when we
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was coming up so
7:03
i want to continue to show people that
7:05
we're supposed to help what are we
7:06
supposed to hurt um
7:08
this is what it's all about the
7:09
elevation of my self-elevation of
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everybody else but for the most part
7:12
from the beginning of my career i always
7:14
could see greatness and try to help
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people out in this situation or
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understand where they're at in life
7:19
especially when it comes to the game and
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success
7:22
what do you think is when you've seen a
7:24
lot of these young independent artists
7:25
many who could jump into it too what do
7:27
you think are some of the
7:29
the common mistakes that they make that
7:31
they're making right now um that they
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they that they don't need a bigger label
7:35
or they don't need a major label or they
7:37
don't they all they trying to x out the
7:39
major label like that's not a might not
7:41
be the best component to add to
7:43
your success um it depends on how you
7:45
negotiate man i say you get what you
7:47
deserve you get what you negotiate now
7:49
what you deserve so you could you could
7:51
take that and get what you deserve or
7:54
get what you or get more than you
7:55
deserve um
7:56
but for the most part i'd be trying to
7:58
tell these
7:59
artists that the more successful you are
8:01
as an independent artist the more money
8:03
you can take from these major labels if
8:05
you have a small lawyer what do you what
8:07
do you think of man i'll see you um
8:09
i mean i would say to that a lot a lot
8:11
of that has to do with the information
8:12
that you're getting from your circle a
8:14
lot of them you know um
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you know they might get some action some
8:18
traction off of a record that goes viral
8:20
and immediately they already
8:24
ten steps ahead of the game because they
8:25
already feel like they already big stars
8:28
and because they already feel like
8:29
they're big stars they
8:30
you know you forgot one two three and
8:32
four right you forgot those other steps
8:34
you you went from one to ten without
8:36
doing the middle so now you you already
8:38
feel and you posturing as if you you you
8:41
this huge artist i watch artists catch a
8:44
record
8:45
and walk around
8:47
you know like they was like the greatest
8:49
thing ever and and not take the right
8:51
deal
8:52
and then it all and then when that when
8:54
that hype of that record died down yep
8:57
that phone wasn't ringing no more
8:59
so the information just like goes back
9:00
to what he was saying like it's we
9:02
hustling right and and
9:05
everybody's throwing out this world
9:06
about being independent and owning your
9:08
masters and all that but you have to
9:09
have your masters
9:10
be worth something you got to be worth
9:12
something and these people are major
9:14
labels that only masters like let's take
9:16
a baby for instance baby turn his
9:19
situation into a real
9:21
independent distribution numbers like
9:23
his flip side like 80 20 in his favor
9:25
which doesn't happen and that's at a
9:27
major label people got to see these are
9:28
the things that people are doing now on
9:30
distribution labels so once again when i
9:32
say you get what you negotiate
9:34
not what you deserve right so you can
9:36
negotiate for more than what you deserve
9:38
and things people like baby are showing
9:40
us the way but independent is a great
9:42
lane some people not built for it i say
9:45
if you're a very artist driven person
9:48
independence might not be the best thing
9:50
for you because you i'm not thinking
9:52
about business you think about the
9:53
artistry and how to think about this
9:54
you're creative right yeah because
9:57
you need that marketing yes right and
9:59
and and we talked about that before
10:01
about you know major labels that that's
10:03
what they have to offer the fact that
10:05
they're like a bank you want to use
10:06
their money that's just that what the
10:08
relationship is you know because when
10:09
you put out a project i mean you need
10:11
money to market you need resources you
10:13
need those things to get it into the
10:15
people's faces so that's what the the
10:18
the give or take with that is
10:20
manual and jim jones are here
10:23
um
10:24
i'm curious because i'm looking at y'all
10:26
dynamic uh jim what was what was it like
10:29
being in the studio with manual knowing
10:31
that he was trying to murder you on
10:32
every song
10:34
i mean like come on man y'all supposed
10:35
to be a team bro i'm listening to this
10:37
it was actually the other way it was
10:39
actually the other way around let me
10:41
tell you because i was i was doing
10:43
records and then he would come in and
10:46
then i was i was like damn man
10:50
i want to change my verse
10:52
like he was because he was talking crazy
10:54
like you know like and the thing about
10:56
when you when you're doing music with
10:58
with somebody that you actually [ __ ]
10:59
with you're a fan of the music you're a
11:01
fan of what he would what they bring to
11:02
the table and and and it was like
11:05
his improvement as a rapper like i was a
11:07
fan he was like the bars like he was
11:09
talking crazy and i was just like damn i
11:12
ain't charming
11:18
just like get on the basketball court
11:19
with some people that are lead you won't
11:20
have to step your game up no matter what
11:22
oh she's not gonna get on the basketball
11:24
court that's how i learned how to play
11:25
basketball by dealing with people at the
11:27
time that i thought was better than me
11:28
but when i got on the court and see that
11:30
i could i could really ball with them it
11:32
was refreshing to know and things like
11:33
that but but man i've been watching me
11:35
for a minute and when we actually got a
11:37
chance to do the music um
11:39
he'd tell you like like the fourth
11:40
record i pulled him to the side like
11:42
whoa this is getting a little bit more
11:43
better than i thought it was going to be
11:45
yeah
11:47
you know he said that to you that's a
11:48
fact
11:49
yo
11:50
this is this is better than what i
11:52
thought it was yeah this is sounding
11:53
crazy let's
11:55
let's really go for it this is sounding
11:56
crazy because we originally said we was
11:58
going to do like 10 records 12 records
12:00
10 records in 3 days
12:01
two weeks we put out a project real
12:03
quick like yeah
12:05
but it became such a
12:07
moment or organic living thing at the
12:10
time like and and it just it was
12:12
therapeutic for me also
12:14
just to see the type of vibe the energy
12:16
the people that were supporting like the
12:18
whole process this past year recording
12:20
this album was probably
12:21
one of the
12:23
was fun
12:26
the pressure was on it was like i didn't
12:27
have no pressure like right you're not
12:29
saying all the pressure was or may know
12:30
but mano took all the pressure
12:32
wholeheartedly like he took all the
12:34
responsibility to do the business side
12:36
he took responsibility of doing
12:37
executive producing and picking the b
12:39
these are things that i've been doing
12:40
for the past 20 some odd years so to see
12:41
somebody else step in and i'm in a
12:43
position that i usually step into and
12:45
and really do it and understand it was
12:47
refreshing to me i could just sit back
12:49
kick my feet up like you did like two
12:51
small people don't need to do the same
12:52
thing that's like us trying to ride one
12:53
bike nine times out of ten it's not
12:55
going to go as fast as we want
12:58
even though we're riding a bike but how
12:59
did you when you do it all when you're
13:01
usually that point person it's hard to
13:03
relinquish those responsibilities like
13:05
you just get i mean it didn't i didn't
13:07
relinquish off top i was just from from
13:09
the moment from the first day i got
13:11
there just watching the process and
13:12
watching i had things set up and
13:14
watching his support team and watching
13:15
his people and the people he had around
13:17
him and then
13:18
that mixing with my people that my man
13:20
ponies like they really know they [ __ ]
13:21
and i'm like all right well let them
13:22
handle it you ain't got to do too much
13:24
cause we already got a shitload of [ __ ]
13:25
that we're doing already so this takes
13:26
away this this alleviates a lot of
13:29
pressure on us to know that they're able
13:31
to complete the job but mango is a beast
13:33
like i've i've watched what he's doing
13:35
he can be an absolutely dope executive
13:38
inside this industry right now like
13:41
seriously
13:42
like he really can get he gets busy you
13:44
know you know the music part of it right
13:47
you know sometimes the hardest thing in
13:48
the world to do is to get two artists
13:49
together at the same time
13:51
on the same page
13:53
every day every day so we we planning on
13:56
doing up every day every day
13:59
every day every day every day every
14:13
so the thing was
14:15
i felt like i said your gym let me let
14:18
me go in the studio and get some [ __ ]
14:19
off my chest
14:21
and then you know you come in you listen
14:22
to it because i felt like
14:25
somebody had to set it off to make it
14:27
easier yeah to make to make it easy
14:30
instead of just going in in the studio
14:31
and saying what we doing i don't know
14:33
what we're doing like somebody needed to
14:35
take the initiative to have some type of
14:37
uh direction
14:38
in in
14:40
and i love the fact that he trusted me
14:43
with that he said [ __ ] it let's go and
14:46
and it became see the
14:47
the greatest thing in all that is the
14:49
fact that we we we really friends over
14:51
the years yeah right so
14:53
i don't know if that you can do that
14:54
with somebody you don't really know
14:56
right or you don't really trust you
14:58
can't just walk in the studio and just
14:59
say all right [ __ ] it you got it you
15:01
know what i mean cause you i don't know
15:02
this [ __ ] yeah
15:04
you know what i'm saying yeah i don't
15:06
know this guy can't give him all of that
15:07
yeah like what do you mean you got it
15:10
no i got it you know what i'm saying so
15:12
it was and and and when you come
15:13
together when you got two strong males
15:15
that come together
15:16
you know it's it's not about no ego yeah
15:20
it's not it's not about no pride it's
15:21
comfortable right it's not about no
15:22
pride
15:24
it's the song called praying right
15:27
with benny that song right is
15:31
like one of the the most popular songs
15:33
on the project right
15:35
the hook is
15:36
uh uh shout out to the [ __ ] that i got
15:39
it out the mall with right mm-hmm that
15:41
that that hook wasn't wasn't a hook
15:44
that was part of my verse wow so after
15:46
we finished it right so this is what i'm
15:48
talking about trust cap will say to me
15:49
yo that should be the hook right we
15:51
should take that and make that the hook
15:55
i said yo you know what
15:56
let's go no ego right no pride
15:59
you might be right and he was right
16:01
i love this that's crazy so one of the
16:03
things i've been around a few
16:04
conversations like just a fly on a wall
16:07
when
16:08
decisions were made who were going to be
16:10
features on songs
16:12
like and it's interesting how the
16:13
process of elimination goes why this
16:15
person won't work why that person won't
16:17
work did you guys collab and agree on
16:20
every single feature because y'all don't
16:21
really need features y'all two are
16:23
enough right so i think it's interesting
16:25
the features that you picked and who for
16:27
the particular songs how did that all
16:29
get worked out that would that just was
16:31
all organic magic like
16:33
all organic magic and every person that
16:36
you hear on them features all came to
16:38
the lobby we call the studio the lobby
16:40
so that was even more magical because in
16:42
2022 you don't get the opportunity to
16:44
make an album and have all the features
16:47
that come coming yeah
16:54
most albums that i've done in the year
16:56
2000s like you know in the 90s it was
16:58
different it was more of a personal
17:00
personal thing you got to pull up but
17:02
as things get digital few it gets
17:04
changed but being in there is crazy
17:06
right crazy crazy yeah energy cause we
17:08
already had a dope energy in there we
17:10
would be a lot of people in there we've
17:11
been chilling you know some luck in this
17:13
and some smoke i saw it you know what i
17:15
mean i didn't get it
17:19
certain people was in town and while
17:21
we're running like i ran into young blue
17:23
at a bowling alley right right
17:25
and and we we we kicked it
17:28
it was like yo you gonna be here
17:29
tomorrow like pull up at the studio yeah
17:32
no problem when he came to the studio
17:34
everybody came to the studio fab
17:36
everybody's pain
17:39
somewhere outside of the street he said
17:40
yeah he seen him in may one day uh-huh
17:43
and then
17:44
she called me like yo i'm on my way to
17:46
the studio i was like
17:48
he was sending people to the studio they
17:49
was beating him
17:53
and he just walked into the studio one
17:54
day i ain't gonna call the nuts
17:56
benny just walked in the studio
18:04
everybody that's on that album showed up
18:06
and worked and now we didn't show up and
18:08
leave like they showed up
18:10
at night like yeah
18:18
let's play that praying yes let's play
18:19
that real quick
18:22
barter just bought a home for a million
18:24
and it changed some change yeah still
18:26
riding with these killers in the range
18:29
that's just lines i'm lying oh yeah yeah
18:33
okay you know where i was going with
18:34
that
18:36
breakfast for mcdonald's in the range
18:38
dunkin donuts
18:39
coffee in the range okay i figured that
18:42
was just a little pain that was just a
18:43
little bit crazy
18:45
right you got to watch what you say on
18:46
your music you can't even be an artist
18:48
out here it's just bars
18:50
well you know it's interesting what
18:51
we've been seeing what's going on with
18:53
these laws and lyrics yeah and how
18:54
lyrics are putting folks behind bars
18:57
yeah you know do you think that'll
18:59
hinder how you write moving forward
19:01
never i don't want it to i never wrote i
19:03
never wrote in a position to put me in a
19:04
position you did i'm just explaining
19:06
life out here and what i've done some of
19:08
the things i've been through and some of
19:09
the things some of my people have been
19:10
through and hopefully that you can see
19:12
some of the stuff we've been through and
19:13
not go through it that's how i always
19:15
wrote my music i never wrote my music
19:17
from a perspective of me doing anything
19:19
there it is detailing a specific crime
19:23
nah that's nasty no i don't know what
19:25
you do no
19:26
that ain't no no no
19:28
you know what these we got the perfect
19:30
people here for the you know we do a
19:32
segment called the do's and don'ts of
19:34
rap right you know and get that man that
19:37
i think we should do this with who
19:38
better to do this with the main one and
19:40
jim i agree but who first
19:43
oh well they they could do it together
19:44
all right okay
19:46
hit that for me real quick jim jones and
19:48
mano are hip-hop veterans so today we're
19:50
to have them drop some gems on all you
19:53
aspiring mcs here's the
19:56
as well as the
19:57
of him
19:59
on sway in the morning with heather b
20:01
and tracy
20:14
explain how this works man real quick
20:16
what sat here and thought about so we
20:17
pulled some uh popular hip-hop uh items
20:20
terms and phrases you know things that
20:22
you deal with in your career you know
20:23
like uh uh chauffeurs you know uh
20:27
expenses things like that and so we
20:29
wanted to get your opinion on the do's
20:30
and the don'ts okay okay i got a put bag
20:32
right there you guys go ahead
20:34
jim you want us to go we put gold flakes
20:36
on it i thought that might appeal to you
20:39
gold and stuff
20:40
all right what's the first thing what'd
20:41
i say bodyguards that's a do that's a
20:44
dude that's a dude okay all right let's
20:46
do it and why why i mean listen it's a
20:49
profession and it's a business and when
20:51
you become a business you got to protect
20:53
the business you understand all this
20:54
whole
20:56
talk this fake talk about
20:57
not having uh people in place
21:00
professional people in place to to to
21:02
help uh move you around and navigate
21:05
through the places that you need to be
21:06
in i mean protect the business and
21:09
that's exactly what it is that's all i
21:11
talk about anything other than that is
21:13
just talk
21:14
can you hire your homie as a bodyguard
21:16
is that a door dog it depends if your
21:18
homie has a license for doing bodyguard
21:21
work and if he bonded i mean it's three
21:23
it's a few lines of defense that um
21:25
small artists use this is why we have
21:28
the security for all safety measures and
21:30
they're also a viable witness in case
21:32
anything happened and then you have the
21:34
second line of defense with it's usually
21:36
the homeboys but the homeboys don't
21:37
usually react like security react
21:39
because they don't they can't see what's
21:40
coming at them because they're already
21:41
in the mix so you know you got to play
21:42
for what it's worth you dig i like that
21:44
guess let's get some more of these man
21:46
i'm educated that's good so i feel like
21:48
i'm in an episode of kitchen talk yeah
21:50
we just did it we finally did it yeah we
21:52
did it
21:56
oh this is a dude we always want these
21:58
but what does it say royalty checks of
22:00
course we need those when you get them
22:02
is it any don'ts
22:04
don't splurge it
22:05
[Laughter]
22:09
don't splurge
22:11
i don't know how long you're gonna get
22:12
those for yeah at some point it'll come
22:14
every week
22:16
it's not a check
22:17
it's not a yeah they'll come every week
22:19
bro at some point you gotta save
22:20
something
22:24
yeah
22:25
you listen you know all right cool let's
22:27
do a couple more this is pretty cool
22:29
don't splurge that was a do anything
22:32
right that's both homes cars and jury
22:35
homes what are the dudes and don'ts buy
22:37
home buy a home not rent a home buy you
22:40
a home that's real estate that means
22:41
that's something that you own that means
22:42
if times comes get hard you can go to
22:45
the bank and get some money from that
22:46
home or you can sell it [ __ ]
22:48
get you some money back cars and jury
22:50
don't really have the value that home
22:51
have cars depreciate soon if you pull
22:53
off the lot and jury if you bust a watch
22:55
down that's like a car pulling off your
22:56
lock you got to be very smooth when
22:58
you're doing carrying cars but watches
23:00
can be very that's right you can be
23:02
invested a dope investment if you know
23:04
what you're doing yeah but homes real
23:06
estate
23:07
first time you get some money buy you a
23:09
home so would you suggest leasing then
23:11
no that's not buying you a home no i
23:13
mean for the car
23:14
oh for the cost yes it depends it
23:17
depends on where you at with the car
23:18
some people prefer at least some people
23:20
prefer financing me myself i i've been
23:23
leasing for a long time not to mention
23:26
that there's cars that i like that i
23:27
actually buy for you dig but
23:29
leasing is the better it is
23:32
you can get in and out of cars
23:33
brand new cars don't let all these
23:35
rappers fool you
23:36
i
23:37
asked them how many pink slips they got
23:38
i bet you they can't produce all the
23:39
pink slips for all the cars that they
23:41
got there's nothing wrong with these
23:42
people
23:43
it's your car [ __ ] is cap
23:46
so when you be doing like you do a lot
23:47
of uh messaging daily messages
23:50
you're always in a fly car is that is
23:52
that least
23:54
yeah and that's smart [ __ ] right and
23:56
that's right all right
23:58
i mean but
23:59
every car that i had wasn't leased
24:01
finance lease
24:03
you know it all depends on the deal on
24:05
how bad i wanted to call whatever the
24:06
situation whatever situation was at the
24:08
time you know what i mean i had cars
24:10
that that was leased right i have i've
24:12
had cars that was financed there's
24:14
nothing wrong with both there's nothing
24:16
wrong with it
24:26
upside down you don't want it no call
24:28
more than two years anyway so then
24:29
because you always
24:31
kind of be upside down regardless
24:33
if you're trying to get outside
24:34
this is what i'm saying you won't be
24:35
upside down really regardless so that's
24:37
the only thing about the finance when
24:39
you're trying to get out you know what i
24:40
did years ago i chose to relinquish my
24:43
rolls-royce habits and things like that
24:45
for a driver probably one of the
24:46
smartest movies that is the small that's
24:48
the that's the best thing one of the
24:49
smartest moves that i've ever been
24:50
especially living in new york city you
24:51
really don't need no really don't need a
24:53
car
24:54
you can you can
24:55
you're in this area you can just invest
24:57
in in a truck a black truck and move it
25:00
absolutely moving around and get
25:02
somebody to move you around that's it
25:04
that's the best thing to have that's a
25:05
driver and having them give me issues
25:08
every day because i catch uber so that's
25:10
i got a driver i took over here yeah did
25:12
you really yeah yeah cause if we had to
25:14
watch every day you might be it might be
25:16
more cost effective for you to lease a a
25:18
vehicle and and higher you can do it
25:19
every day
25:20
right now he said in higher drivers
25:23
you're not doing that either
25:25
it's better than having this uber it is
25:26
we
25:40
i took a black truck here you took a
25:42
blast i had a rough i had a rough night
25:43
last night oh yeah woke up in the shade
25:46
room i wonder why what happened
25:48
almost woke up in the shade guys
25:53
tracy
26:00
especially from reading this i don't
26:02
know if you'll be talking about past or
26:04
pre well first of all let me say this
26:05
album i said this to you mano but now
26:06
that jim is here you said it before jim
26:09
this is a fun album it's an
26:10
introspective album i feel like this is
26:13
tremendous not just for new york city
26:15
but the entire state it's a manual of
26:17
sorts but you may know yeah
26:25
when you say something about strippers
26:27
is still taking your soul
26:30
okay
26:31
what
26:32
i didn't think of it
26:35
he reminded you of the chamber
26:51
bobby v i want to say too when you're
26:53
talking about um
26:55
that you gotta let go of the clubs after
26:57
a while and then the strippers again
27:00
oh jesus take the whales
27:02
what's good with you with strippers
27:19
okay look i mean if i'm gonna if i'm
27:22
gonna i always made music from the from
27:24
the standpoint of i didn't
27:26
i'm not always the hero in the music
27:28
right he makes jezebel look like an
27:29
angel so this guy's crazy
27:43
read that in the bible right that was
27:44
his home girl she was gang don't worry
27:46
about it listen you see what this is
27:49
if you read the bible that was just
27:51
that's the bill shut up
27:53
groupies that says i'm gonna say this is
27:55
a do
27:56
okay tell us why for you balance no for
27:59
you
28:03
this this can help release some tension
28:05
for me
28:07
anybody well not jam man
28:10
i'm speaking for myself
28:12
but it can increase tension too
28:13
depending on your relationship status
28:16
let me hear your theory life like listen
28:18
life in itself is a journey right it's a
28:20
bumpy ride it's ups is down and you're
28:22
dealing with certain things and we're
28:23
not all perfect so i'm a man i'm flawed
28:26
we all have we all have issues about
28:29
ourselves you understand some people
28:31
these guys some people have some people
28:32
have some people have drug had it habits
28:35
some people have lifestyle wait wait
28:36
wait let me
28:38
see what problem we're going through for
28:39
wait what wait where we going not now
28:49
some people have different habits what
28:51
i'm saying is that lifestyle habits the
28:53
things like i've been i've been a person
28:55
that that that in my life stops
28:59
i've had
29:01
lifestyle habits being
29:04
caught up in a life a certain life
29:07
i like i like how you worry about that
29:08
you put that
29:09
elephant
29:10
activity
29:15
these strippers just took my soul
29:18
you got to stop
29:21
nobody's talking about those
29:38
people we gotta talk about this debacary
29:40
that you put listen listen
29:42
at the end of the day
29:43
right
29:45
it crossed your head all right
29:47
it's like oh that's crazy
29:52
yo this dude
30:06
oh
30:09
[Applause]
30:19
i'm gonna say this is a dude
30:25
spend all your time with the groupies
30:26
though that's that's an imbalance it's
30:28
an imbalance that's a bad idea that's
30:30
very bad you know you could wake up on
30:32
the shave room like men who did plenty
30:33
of times yeah that's when the imbalance
30:35
goes wrong right that's what the balance
30:36
is out the window what is it i mean
30:38
that's a good exposure you know the
30:40
shape sometimes you don't want that
30:41
exposure though she's like damn i'm
30:43
caught up there that's not always the
30:44
best exposure
30:47
um
30:48
that's a don't
30:50
that's a dude
30:55
would you take sway out on one of your
30:57
outside activity nights
30:59
i don't know if he's ready for that oh
31:01
wow
31:02
you got to bring back the wolf calloway
31:04
ah man i retired
31:07
and we were we were we was out last
31:09
night right yeah
31:11
and i always say always separate cars
31:13
i go over to gym hotel rooms 20 miles
31:16
apart
31:18
yo listen sure i go over to the gym and
31:19
i said
31:21
i might wake up in the shade room
31:23
tonight
31:25
i'm like wait i'm telling him i might be
31:27
on ball alert in the morning
31:30
i'm gonna be in the blogs in the morning
31:32
i'm telling you
31:35
listen i'm
31:36
i'm just playing man like this is fun
31:38
and
31:39
the music is therapy though yes you know
31:41
what i mean it's a certain thing the
31:42
music is therapy so i speak about a lot
31:44
of the things like i like to balance the
31:46
pain with with the with the pleasure
31:48
yeah but the pleasure so it's it's and
31:49
that really is what life is though if
31:51
you think about it though you know we be
31:53
going through certain things personally
31:54
we're dealing with some things
31:55
personally at the same time we trying to
31:57
balance having careers paying our bills
31:59
taking care of our kids all of that at
32:01
the same time you understand so that's
32:03
how i make my music mano and jim jones
32:06
man get these dudes around the supplies
32:08
yeah
32:08
i'm trying to think of what song it was
32:10
you said the lyric i just caught my
32:12
second win
32:13
[Applause]
32:15
lobby boys
32:17
[ __ ] can't kill me i'm a couple
32:19
blessings in yeah and i think about your
32:22
career yeah you know that's how i
32:24
interpret it yeah
32:25
that's exactly what it is okay i just
32:27
caught my second win meaning everybody
32:29
don't what we doing right now i don't
32:31
think
32:32
you know
32:33
everybody has been able to to bounce
32:35
back yeah you know what i'm saying i've
32:36
been i've had high moments i've had
32:38
moments where i felt really good about
32:41
my life and my career then there was
32:42
times when i felt really bad and i felt
32:44
really low you know i've i've been in
32:47
dark places so to have the opportunity
32:50
to
32:51
catch your second wind to be able to
32:54
to come
33:01
nobody has done it like we've we've
33:04
we've been able to do that and jim has
33:06
done it in three times
33:31
just when you thought i was dead exactly
33:33
fashion fashionably fresh right bounce
33:36
right back
33:38
no i think that's what y'all saying is
33:39
something that i think some of the
33:40
younger artists should pay attention to
33:42
i think people are really fast to write
33:44
people off as old heads or whatever
33:46
whatever but i think this era of a
33:49
certain number of folks have been able
33:51
to keep sustaining and a lot of artists
33:54
are getting it so fast so we're making a
33:55
lot of money but to y'all's point you
33:57
gotta save that money because 40 is
34:00
different yeah than what it was before
34:02
it's different now you know it's way
34:04
different it's way different and for
34:06
these kids saying you old at 40 well in
34:08
18 years 19 years i don't know if that
34:10
bag's still gonna be sitting there when
34:11
they phone stop ringing it can stop
34:14
ringing and not everybody has the hustle
34:16
in them to sustain and reinvent
34:18
themselves every podcast ain't popping
34:21
you know every feature ain't guaranteed
34:23
it's a lot of [ __ ] you look at ll we
34:25
talk about 80s music today look at what
34:27
he's been able to do since the 80s
34:31
latifah you know
34:32
everybody's not going to have
34:34
to be so i salute y'all for being able
34:36
to do this because it's you talking
34:38
decades and not everybody's going to be
34:40
able to do this people don't make this
34:42
todd no let me tell you something have
34:44
the bee is the
34:46
first african-american reality tv star
34:51
that's effective
34:53
in the world real world in the world she
34:55
said away she said a wave and jim
34:59
revolutionized reality
35:10
look at them two together nobody even
35:12
made that connection can y'all just
35:14
smile to
35:25
this is reality royalty right here yeah
35:28
post that crazy
35:30
because look how many people eating off
35:31
of reality tv
35:33
and when i started business they were
35:34
talking to me crazy like boy you must be
35:36
[ __ ] up in your pockets what's going
35:38
on you [ __ ] up in your head why are
35:39
you doing this i'm telling my everybody
35:41
i could name 20 people right now that
35:43
told me i was tripping and them same 20
35:45
people right now then got a reality
35:47
check come on wow wow go ahead and name
35:49
them
35:50
[Laughter]
35:54
wow jim what is your is this success
35:57
success for you i mean you've been such
35:59
a
36:00
a mogul throughout the whole artistic
36:02
process but right now are you living in
36:04
success is this have you reached your
36:06
goals no i haven't reached my goals at
36:09
all i mean i don't even care about the
36:10
success part of it this is just
36:12
something that comes with my hard work
36:14
your dig success don't comes with a
36:16
dollar you dig i care about the check of
36:17
it and things like that but where i'm at
36:19
right now i'm very comfortable i'm very
36:20
happy from the journey that i've been on
36:23
and how i switch things up in in the
36:26
knife in and then things like that you
36:27
dig like i can't be mad i give
36:29
i give all of grayson thanks to god for
36:32
sticking by my side you know this is
36:34
this is a tricky game man ain't nothing
36:35
ain't nothing problems are guaranteed
36:37
the only thing that's promised is you
36:38
work hard the next day to try to get to
36:40
where you got to go and i know that
36:41
comes with a lot of luck and a lot of
36:43
garb being on my shoulder because i've
36:45
made some [ __ ] up mistakes yeah
36:47
yeah you know what i mean i made some
36:49
mistakes that most people can't come
36:50
back from so for me to still be here i
36:52
know in the back of my mind that i'm
36:53
here for something gracious i mean you
36:55
know i mean like and i mean that
36:56
wholeheartedly so i i know that music is
36:58
not
37:00
that's just getting me warmed up you dig
37:02
i i know that whole heart i can't tell
37:03
you what it's gonna be but i know uh god
37:05
is pushing me in a direction to do
37:07
something
37:08
so much more dude
37:10
you know i'm looking at
37:11
that beautiful angel on your neck man
37:14
come on man
37:16
wow was she just was she proud of you
37:18
most of your mama my mom's like my um
37:22
was like my biggest
37:23
supporter right she she when i first
37:26
came home from jail you know
37:28
my whole thing was i'm gonna get into
37:29
this music business you know we was
37:31
going into the to the studio making cds
37:33
and stuff like that she wrote me bring
37:35
me a cd
37:36
yeah
37:38
she would she would ride around with my
37:40
music and i'm like how you listening to
37:42
this i'm talking i'm talking so crazy on
37:44
here like like so what you're my son
37:46
like she
37:47
she was one of those mothers that you
37:50
couldn't tell her that i wasn't the
37:52
the best at everything do you think
37:54
every woman in the room want me
37:58
right
37:59
like mine ain't that good at basketball
38:01
yes she is you you can do it like
38:03
everything you couldn't tell that i
38:05
couldn't do nothing in the world so you
38:07
know in in on this on this journey you
38:10
know she would
38:11
early on she was like i see you in the
38:12
studio with jim jones talking about
38:14
lobby boy she watched everything right
38:17
you know but she she was battling um you
38:20
know some ailments yeah and she you know
38:22
unfortunately she passed
38:23
while we was doing this
38:26
you know this just you know this past
38:27
january
38:32
whole journey has been crazy so
38:35
god bless auntie his mom's passing and
38:37
while we were making this and then
38:39
the lady that raised me on viola that
38:41
i've said so many times and all my music
38:43
yeah she passed away the day that lobby
38:44
boys came out the album came out and
38:47
just so it's it's a very spiritual
38:49
connection been going on here besides
38:50
everything else but you know life is
38:52
life i watch to live a a good life a
38:54
long life but you never think these
38:56
people are going to leave your side
38:58
right
39:01
yeah so that's what i've been battling
39:03
the past the past week or so and things
39:05
like that so you know but for the most
39:07
part lobby boyz is out
39:09
boys come on we in here yo i put
39:11
together uh excellent body of work man i
39:14
knew it was real when when fat joe
39:16
called me yesterday
39:18
then they called me back
39:20
after that and he said to me
39:23
i just want to tell you this album is
39:25
hard and you went crazy this is
39:27
good anything
39:29
he convinced to tell me that
39:31
um you know we don't have ill maddox no
39:33
more with people like listening to the
39:34
whole albums he said man like people
39:36
listen to it once or twice and then be
39:38
like off to the next he said but i'm on
39:40
my sixth listen and and
39:42
the fact that that made me feel really
39:44
good because he's he's one of those
39:46
artists that's been able to stand the
39:48
test of time yeah like
39:50
probably better than anybody right
39:52
because he's been in the game longer
39:53
than whole
39:54
and he's been able to reinvent himself
39:56
so joe is one of the people that i kind
39:58
of admire for being able to always
40:00
reinvent himself and to stay new you
40:03
know so when he called me
40:05
i felt really good about that in in the
40:07
the feedback
40:08
has been tremendous bro
40:10
yeah bro it's uh
40:12
well done man like really you know we
40:15
we're folks who really
40:16
we really analyzed we got a whole lot of
40:18
more lyrics we could ask you about too
40:22
i think you had enough heat for today we
40:24
ain't gonna milk you uh but even the
40:27
musical composition and the artists you
40:29
chose to work with the the construction
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of the songs themselves the bridges
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right the choruses right the you know um
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you guys took some chances
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sonically
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and um i think it matched really well
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nobody talks that [ __ ] like jim jones
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like yo you took it to a no i can't even
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talk like you because i haven't seen
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those things you've seen
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you know what i mean like you'll tie in
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some
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foreign city or something
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i ain't been there yet i can't talk that
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you know but um um you guys rose to the
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occasion man you put together a great
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body of work this is good for culture
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it's good for community
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sometimes culture and community ain't
41:08
aligned yeah yeah you know it's good for
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community i want folks to listen to this
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and learn from this inspiration you both
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have always done it so congratulations
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thank you you know i just want to give
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my shout outs to rayquan and ghostface
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the killer cause this is our version of
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that purple tape
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all right we said that too when we
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started when i first when i i can
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remember buying that yeah that cd hell
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yeah on my in the radio in my house on
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five h and it's a fact me and ken played
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that right we didn't turn the radio off
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that [ __ ] just was on repeat for like
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the whole summer so you came in the
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house and played
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repeat the whole summer but this was the
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feeling for me that's it was like the
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closest thing we got to the dynamic that
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ghost and ray had that everybody was
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talking about from all the things we've
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been through just creating this album
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and things like that like we we are the
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dynamic duel you're we're a super group
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don't forget the level when you see us
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you're good
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all right and catch us all on tour soon
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because i'm coming out you got bars
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uh i can [ __ ] i'll make some i don't
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know you know
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i'll come off the top don't let let me
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introduce you you know you know i got a
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dope introduction guys that's all we
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need is an introduction yo listen you
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were saying something earlier that was
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crazy
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when you were talking
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earlier when i was doing the
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introduction that introduction was me
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i'm the first kid there's a lot of great
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introducers out there but
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they are my sons
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[Laughter]
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there's a lot of great i do that and i
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love when people do that
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we got to give ourselves our props and
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certain people to do those introductions
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really well and i love when i see it
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yeah that was always our thing fellas
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thank you for stopping by man y'all
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having a whole nother move man
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thanks all right we're going in with
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that bobby v yeah all right uh man pick
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up the project the lobby boys is out now
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yes out right now streaming and beaming
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jim jones
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the legend
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don't smoke it all right and hey listen
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on that note man we gonna cut out let's
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end the show with uh lobby boys
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