Saint Frm LA Talks New Project ‘Reverend’, Influences and Freestyles | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Mar 2, 2023
Saint From LA'S infectious flow and ambition to succeed lead him all the way from LA straight into Sway In The Morning. He discussed his influences as an artist, gave listeners a preview of his upcoming album Reverend, and even spit some bars over one of Jay-Z's classic beats - leaving everyone in awe!
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[Applause]
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yes
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yes young man out of L.A well
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let's find out exactly where he's from
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is it Los Angeles or is it Miles City
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I'm from Mid City California
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wow really yeah open by the roscos right
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by my Roscoe's that's no longer there
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anymore that's not there no more nah
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okay that voice right there Saint from
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La get this man a big round of applause
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so that's just a neighborhood Mid City
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yeah Mid City or West L.A West L.A yeah
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okay uh man when I listen to your music
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I sat and listened to you it was now I
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found out it's your first real album
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Reverend and uh going through the songs
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um that I that I heard man I felt like
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man this guy is really coming from the
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soul I want to know your story so where
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did it all begin for you so um as far as
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music in my life my parents man they
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always play rap music hip-hop music I
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mean my mom will go as far back as like
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Luther Vandross playing in the house
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we'll be dancing and dancing with my
1:06
father type thing and then uh Church
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so my my mom's side in Oklahoma they
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have an actual church out there in Tulsa
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Oklahoma so I used to grow up having to
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come out there during the winter and
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having to play instruments or sing in
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the choir and all that stuff now the
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whole music and making music thing that
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didn't come around until High School my
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basketball teammates there was uh my
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young his younger brother it was named
1:29
80 Cinco and then his older brother's
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name Nate Savage they were making music
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so I joked with him I said I'm gonna
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come make a song real quick went up
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there and made a song song sucked but uh
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went back to school went back to school
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the next day and everybody was vibing
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with it so I kept going and I kept
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progressing really fast and I started
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falling in love with just the creation
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of music I always loved music but making
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music really started becoming my passion
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and then I just started taking it
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serious so who who influenced you like
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when you decided to put that PIN to the
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pad and go in that mic Booth like who
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were the influences some of the rappers
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that you were listening to my top three
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favorite artists are Kendrick Lamar J
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Cole and Drake um is that an order yeah
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yeah so um I listened to them mostly um
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I do strive to Listen to More Than Just
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hip-hop um but I do really focus on that
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and then I got I like Usher I like nipsy
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I like Hove um I listen to a lot of
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stuff but yeah those are my top three
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how did you because to me growing up in
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the house and your parents were playing
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like Luther and dance with my father so
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but you also said they played hip-hop in
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the house so then since Kendrick get on
2:34
and weren't out then what kind of
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hip-hop were you listening to was it
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like the very early Jay-Z's and nases or
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was it like Ice Cube and like what would
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you felony so my dad's favorite rapper
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is Nas I'm only 23. right now hold up
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hold up yeah yeah when I was growing up
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I was like 12 years old when good kid
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Man City came out so my dad was playing
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good kid Man City oh so your dad was
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playing that okay and my mom was playing
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take care they came out around the same
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time so like that's how I started
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hearing that stuff but I didn't really
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get any music knowledge until probably
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like ninth grade 10th grade for myself I
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only knew what my friend's listening to
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what they older brothers taught them in
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what my parents listen to That's So Dope
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I think it's dope that your parents did
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that because for reals like you got the
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best of both worlds in a sense like to
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grow up in the house with Nas and
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Kendrick playing at the same time you
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know a lot of times people have to go
3:24
back now to appreciate you know some of
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that music but you had it so that's dope
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my dad even had like a CD case so like
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he had a CD case
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we got Tracy G all the way in New York
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with us too yeah I don't think he can
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hear me though he has to put the
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headphones
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yeah okay here you go come get this love
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thank you how you doing Tracy
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you know it's really crazy hearing you
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talk about like when he was 12 that's
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when good kid Mad City because I'm just
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like wow one I'm grateful to hear that
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out loud because that shows the full
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breath of success that these rappers
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have had and that they've really earned
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the right to be in those goat
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conversations and it also makes me
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wonder like what are the aspects of coal
4:15
of Kendrick
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um of Drake that you admire not just
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within their music but as businessmen
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like what what have you learned from
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them being kind of mentors you know in a
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sense even though you're just like
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listening to them towards your business
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um so first of all they all now have
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their own labels or companies um
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Kendrick has PG Lane Cole has Greenville
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Drake has OVO so that's the first thing
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that I took from that um so now I have
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a cohesive I'm not giving it a title or
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a category yet but it's called booked
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until December um because the goal for
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us to be is to be booked from January to
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December so we call bu entertainment
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um so that's the first thing I took man
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bring your homies up around you
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um learn who who can fit and which role
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and how you can help each other you know
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in this world and in this city so that's
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the first thing I took from them is that
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they came up with their homies they
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built a cohesive and they just they
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built you know so that's the first thing
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I took from them and then everything
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else is just music you know they really
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put their soul in their life in like
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what they visualize of the world into
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the music whether it's about women or
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whether it's about
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um gang violence whatever it is they
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really take it from what they visualize
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they put it on the track they're not
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just talking you know does that mean is
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it easy for you to be vulnerable in the
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booth I feel like for a while a lot of
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artists that was something that they
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didn't necessarily want to share you
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know different conversations about maybe
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some Trauma from their pot past we see a
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lot of that with Kendrick and I'm
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wondering for someone who has literally
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grown up listening to them from jump as
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a man are you comfortable showing your
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vulnerable side
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I'm still learning yeah I'm still
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learning I can tell when I'm being
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surface level artist and when I'm
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getting a little bit deeper but um I'm
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still learning yeah Reverend Reverend of
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this album was about that though yeah
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yeah literally yeah it was about what
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you're talking about Tracy him showing
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up really tapping into that
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vulnerability
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um that vulnerable side we played the
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song with cost you know talk about that
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like what cost that that title in itself
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interested me and then I started
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listening to what you were rapping about
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talking yeah so that was an intro to my
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um 2021 album called reverend I consider
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rapping my first album because that was
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the first one that I really took the
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time to put together
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um and it was the first one that had
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different producers that was the last
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project I ever did with YouTube beats
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but that one does have YouTubers on it
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but um what cost is like
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I'm a Christian I grew up in church but
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I'm making rap music right so at that
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point it's like what am I giving up to
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be an artist and all the stuff I'm
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sacrificing even with like family time
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and um
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time with friends and stuff I sacrificed
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a lot just to become who I am now and I
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know I got so much farther to go and I
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have to sacrifice way more so it's just
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like at what cost
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am I sacrificing everything to get what
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I want out of this life and out of this
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career so like that's really the gist of
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it it's like you know I talk about
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LeCrae I'm talking about how like he
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makes Christian music but he can't get a
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radio spin because they're not spending
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the Christian music and all this it's
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just all these things that were going on
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in my head and I was really trying to
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figure out like is it worth it you know
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yeah and um I do go in in depth in it
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throughout the whole project what did
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you think about Jesus walks uh
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uh I mean I just watched the documentary
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yeah so uh
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when I was when that came out I was
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young you know and I wasn't old enough
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to really have like an opinion on it but
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I think that that was really uh
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revolutionary yeah right that was one of
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those songs that got played on the radio
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right
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Club Andy Mineo uh Lecrae a lot of those
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guys got played T-Bone got played on the
7:43
radio we were cracking jokes about CDs
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right but when I was coming up that's
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how we that's how we got distributed our
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music was cassettes yeah CDs and final
7:53
and it was a lot of cost that came with
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that it's different from how you're
7:57
coming up and you could go to the dsps
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and put your music up but you're still
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independent you still don't have
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marketing budgets that back you
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promotion budgets they're back you
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touring budget step back you a lot of
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artists want to go independent but don't
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fully understand what that entails so
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what does independence look like for you
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Independence means you and whoever is
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connected to you which won't be that
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many people because as independent y'all
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don't make that much money especially at
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the start because I'm still very early
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in my career
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um you got to figure out everything you
8:28
got to figure out album covers you got
8:30
to figure out distribution you got to
8:32
figure out PR runs if you can even do a
8:34
PR run because PR runs cause money so
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like all that stuff is stuff we think
8:37
about so like we're like dang do we want
8:39
to get an LLC first or do we want to get
8:41
the money first or do we want to do all
8:42
these things and you just have to figure
8:43
it out and really get emotion I've been
8:45
blessed to have people around me that I
8:47
can call and ask for help but as an
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independent artist you're really
8:50
figuring out the whole thing by yourself
8:51
even when it comes to song creation you
8:53
get to format your own projects you
8:54
don't have somebody looking over your
8:56
back telling you to make a song for this
8:57
or a song for that or do you know so you
8:59
really do have a lot of freedom but with
9:01
that freedom comes a lot of stress
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because you got to figure things out and
9:03
you got to hope it works without having
9:05
that big engine behind you that's
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backing you so I'm just how you pay your
9:08
bills right now uh I do work a job got a
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job
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I'm glad you said that yeah because
9:16
people think it's people think it's like
9:18
easy or I'm gonna just gonna struggle it
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out nah like you have to you know part
9:24
of to me working I want to ask you about
9:26
your process working while you know
9:29
trying to get a deal is is it more
9:31
inspiring and once I want to not have to
9:34
do this one day so it kind of give you
9:36
that more energy you know to get out of
9:37
that nine to five so to speak it's a
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pain when you do a show one night and
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then gotta wake up for work in the
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morning
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um so first I'm in the entertainment
9:52
business so I throw events um for a lot
9:54
of the college area and stuff and then
9:55
there's also this other thing called the
9:57
outlet La that I work um on nights so I
9:59
help without out with that and then I
10:01
work at a Wii shop but I don't even
10:02
smoke weed but I work there because it's
10:04
convenient and it's easy for me to
10:05
change my schedule up no Edibles nothing
10:08
no no there's no industry okay
10:11
just take them away from this Christian
10:14
I'm just joking if you don't mind
10:17
sharing though you talked about storm
10:18
creation what's your process like are
10:20
you do you write before you go into the
10:23
studio do you write while you're in this
10:24
like if you don't mind sharing yeah it's
10:28
funny it's changed a lot
10:30
um when I started I was always writing I
10:31
was always typing up in my notes I got
10:33
probably I don't even want to say the
10:34
numbers probably about five thousand
10:35
dollars in my phone for music but um
10:37
lately it's more so if I catch a Vibe
10:39
with a beat I started laying it down
10:41
before I write anything but like my rap
10:43
versus so I do rap and I do things so
10:45
when I rap I tend to write it out just
10:47
so I can get it out fluidly yeah
10:49
fluently and then um singing sometimes
10:51
is freestyle and they're not perfected
10:53
later
10:54
you're 23 yeah I'm 23. turn 23 in
10:57
January does it sound like you're having
10:58
fun
11:04
you are what I would say for me you're
11:07
very different from some of the 23 year
11:09
olds that I met I put put it like that
11:12
yeah you're probably having fun yeah I
11:14
have a great time I really do okay yeah
11:20
he's focused right now this is probably
11:22
just how I talk um I might be a little
11:23
nervous you know but uh yeah uh I do
11:25
have a lot of fun and then I do do
11:27
parties and events so I'm always outside
11:29
okay okay
11:31
cool man you go out on you you find time
11:34
for Dayton or is that that's not on your
11:36
uh yeah I make time for dating I love
11:38
women so [ __ ] he didn't sound nervous
11:40
when he said that he piped up
11:46
because two of them are married thinking
11:48
about Kendrick Cole Drake is someone who
11:50
said you know I feel more inspired when
11:53
I'm a bachelor you know what I'm saying
11:55
it's harder for him to think about
11:57
bringing in a serious relationship into
11:59
this lifestyle I'm curious from those
12:01
three artists whatever you learned about
12:02
relationships
12:04
I learned a lot especially since Mr
12:06
Morrow came out
12:07
even he admitted to you know doing
12:10
things
12:11
um while he was married with other
12:13
people so it's crazy because you got
12:14
Kevin's Heart by J Cole then you got um
12:17
songs off of Kendrick's album new album
12:19
and they all talk about how like with
12:21
this lifestyle we're around a lot of
12:23
distractions and a lot of Temptation and
12:25
it's been something that's already
12:26
affected me and bothered me as I come up
12:29
but you just gotta you gotta choose
12:31
what's more important that's what I'm
12:33
trying to understand like what what has
12:35
affected you and bothered you
12:37
um I've had girlfriends and I um I
12:39
currently have somebody and you know
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it's just a lot that's in my face all
12:43
the time and so I just got you know
12:45
always got to remember what's more
12:46
important to me and then even with like
12:49
just the music that I create and
12:50
entertaining in the audience they don't
12:51
they don't want you to have no
12:52
girlfriend man it's interesting because
12:55
when we were coming out we felt like you
12:57
couldn't maintain a relationship and do
12:59
this at the same time you definitely
13:00
couldn't talk about it that that was
13:02
like nah just just have that image you
13:05
single you just don't bring her around
13:07
nothing yeah that's kind of what what
13:09
cost us about right yeah right it's
13:12
about that like just just kind of
13:14
balancing out everything as a 23 year
13:16
old with a 40 year old business mind and
13:19
this young man right here I was 21 when
13:21
I made that you were 21 when you made
13:23
that song Or 20. it came out in uh May
13:26
so I might have been 20 when it when I
13:28
made it okay so you got a new song that
13:30
you sent us today called Bust A Move now
13:33
who who made that stuff got to bust a
13:36
move
13:37
I know you don't know who this is so
13:39
your dad was Young MC had a song called
13:42
bus to move years ago this was really
13:43
about doing the dance step or getting to
13:46
it is it if you got it yeah
13:48
just bustable yeah you know that yeah
13:52
why people be trying to pretend like
13:53
they don't know older songs he wasn't
13:55
Chinese
13:57
I had to make sure I wasn't wrong all
14:00
right I want to play that what's this
14:01
song about uh this song is literally
14:03
about how people be acting weird it
14:05
makes me want to bust a move I mean I
14:07
can't dance but I just still want to
14:08
bust a move and get away from that you
14:10
feel me that's really what it's about
14:11
it's a fun song it's a fun song all
14:13
right we're gonna play this man uh give
14:15
him a call same from La
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888-742-3345 I saw a post on this um on
14:20
your Instagram reminded me when I was
14:22
younger um I came in a game as an artist
14:25
and my partner King Tech and uh that I
14:27
started with we used to have to throw
14:29
parties too yeah right yeah and so we're
14:31
from the base I remember throwing a
14:32
party in the bag we were young and uh
14:34
NWA
14:36
showed up at the party after a concert
14:38
they had Dre Ice Cube all of them showed
14:40
up and we were like oh my gosh NWA is at
14:44
the party bro I was working the door
14:46
right dude so
14:49
um I think it was two weeks ago right
14:51
yeah we're supposed to throw a party
14:52
with this frat right seven o'clock come
14:54
around 7 P.M we get a call uh DPS
14:58
telling the Frat they can't throw a
14:59
party with us because the Frat went into
15:00
leak the information or whatever we got
15:02
two hours to throw a party I gotta go do
15:04
a show at 8 45. so we make a phone call
15:07
yada yada I finally get in contact with
15:09
somebody they book us catch one now the
15:12
way it was under the table and stuff so
15:14
I wasn't too sure about it or whatever
15:15
so I drive to catch one around eight
15:17
o'clock I say with something confirmed
15:19
they say yeah you just got the big one
15:20
about five minutes ago I said okay cool
15:21
I leave I go do my show come back to the
15:24
party I had to work the door the whole
15:26
night because we didn't have nobody else
15:27
for the event because we supposed to be
15:29
at a frat house so I just did that like
15:30
two weeks ago had to work the door yeah
15:32
you have to work the door perform sweet
15:35
oh yeah did the performance
15:37
performed at a different spot yeah so I
15:40
had to go to a different spot to perform
15:41
and then come back to the party and then
15:43
run the door you're going who are you
15:44
team members like how do you select
15:46
who's on your team because everybody has
15:49
to carry the same energy as you right
15:50
can't be no Eagles yeah folks can't get
15:53
jealous can't do anything no squatters
15:56
like what do you look for
15:58
um so I mean my core is really my
16:00
brothers this is my brother right here
16:02
that's your real brother no but okay
16:04
okay yeah that was a good hun yo that's
16:08
a different daddy don't get shoes back
16:10
to your mom but you do go to town some
16:12
people ain't got to say about their
16:14
fault right
16:15
and then say the producer that I started
16:18
with is also another person I consider
16:20
my brother so we started this together
16:21
so he was the first producer I ever
16:22
worked with and we always talking about
16:24
business he always sending me stuff uh
16:25
and then um I have another one um he was
16:28
doing clubs right now um that's also
16:31
another one of my brothers so I'm really
16:32
just working with my brothers and uh I
16:34
trust them and so that's the biggest
16:35
thing for me and then the reason why
16:37
like I might not have management right
16:38
now and all that stuff is because I do
16:40
so much for myself yeah if you can't
16:42
match that energy and support me as well
16:44
as I support myself I don't see a point
16:46
in having you around right now and stay
16:47
prayed up on that because when the right
16:49
person comes along though hopefully you
16:51
get that because you do have to release
16:53
some of the loads right you're gonna
16:54
have to it's you're doing a lot young
16:56
man like a lot and you have a standard
16:59
that you set for yourself we could just
17:01
clearly hear and see that but when the
17:03
time comes you know start a little bit
17:06
just giving some of that load off
17:08
because you're gonna need it people are
17:09
going to want to talk to you and sit and
17:11
you're going to want to pour into folks
17:13
as well
17:14
um there's so much in your music the
17:16
messaging you're gonna have to say
17:18
refreshed and and filled with that
17:20
spirit in you to give back so you got to
17:23
sleep and rest too and Trust the people
17:25
that's doing it all right very very true
17:27
same from L.A man hey man welcome to the
17:30
show man it's good to have you yeah
17:32
thank you thank you yeah good to have
17:33
you up here man
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um so we want to do though you know your
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first timer at the show Tracy G let's
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break it down what we do with these
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first timers please well you gotta prove
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yourself man it can't just be about that
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talk we got to see it put in motion we
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gotta hit a bar son okay you ready yeah
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yeah welcome man to the Valley of the
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hyenas
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DJ tiara on the beat
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[Music]
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Turn Me Up turn them up if you know
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better you would do better the best kept
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secret I should get it on a cool sweater
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a rookie to y'all but I've been fitted
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for the pressure see a lot of [ __ ]
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happy till they reach that new era I can
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never make it till I make it that [ __ ]
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basic reproduction like a canvas watch
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me get that picture painted can't be out
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here acting outlandish just to make a
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[ __ ] statement like a game a [ __ ]
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[ __ ] I'm good and even he can't hate it
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you like getting a [ __ ] cold as [ __ ] I
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gotta respect the hoes like damn that
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[ __ ] flow is tough I gotta come sexy I
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heard your last drop oh [ __ ] was
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unimpressive y'all [ __ ] out here
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rapping like your identity is still in
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question best under 25 matter of fact 29
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[ __ ] make it 35 shoot me down if I'm
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alive I'm still alive jump into that
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fire and I Will Survive how you
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satisfied knowing y'all both rapping
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your skills to talk couldn't it be me
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shitty needs a legend give a reason why
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it shouldn't be me Kevin Gates on stage
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I'll explain what you getting from me I
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was getting A's till I started giving
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women the D now I'm just passing to a
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diploma like QB Channel Caleb I'm in the
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student section up at SC uh doctor but
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I'm still a legend ask about me if I was
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teens if I was seeing such a good thing
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Orange
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highly anticipated sorry for making you
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wait was getting my paper straight and
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analyzing it's so surprising these
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[ __ ] hit the floor they think the
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records they were four can open doors
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but that [ __ ] ain't knocking I've got
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the keys of the game located deep in my
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pocket I just need a locksmith to help
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me unlock that pocket I'm a prophet I'm
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a profit no I'm just another Target for
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entertainers and haters who mad because
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they ain't got it he's speaking on my
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name that just leaves me in conversation
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claim you ain't a fan but stay bringing
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my name up in rotation it's the Matrix
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don't pop pills are elevated to a level
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where the real and fake or segregated
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let me illustrate it nothing like Los
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Angeles the city from which I will make
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it so many people on my dick there ain't
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no need for masturbation ain't no equal
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I'm the [ __ ] or who computer constipated
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I'm the golden that's legit you just the
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Sheep if you don't face it when I come
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around I spot a lot of details from the
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Valentino Theater California we smell
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it's easy to be loud without making the
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sound but usually it's the reserve to go
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really took the scale those are women on
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the west who progress with finesse who
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can make the best of the best but with
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Under Pressure thousand dollar codes out
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the dress is a slow day you pick it with
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your pleasure and that's okay I tell her
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Leave It All To Me yes yo man just see
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[Music]
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eggs
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[Music]
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so he started giving out that dude
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how many people on this dick don't need
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for masturbation not at all damn same
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from L.A man you a true MC brother I
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appreciate you appreciate it come on man
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I love it right there man what's next
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for you what do you see for yourself for
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the next year uh man we just working on
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expansion uh a lot of things are coming
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into play
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um I've been working on projects and
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albums but we're gonna do a slow reveal
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for that um it's called chivalry is dead
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that's all I'm gonna say and then uh
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that sound is crazy for that but then
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yeah man just working on motion keeping
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things going and keep on excelling
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there's never been a year that was worse
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than the previous so I'm I'm happy where
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I'm at I love it man hey I already see
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it man your future is already here
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brother you already earned it she's
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walking in your purpose right now man I
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love your music I love what you're doing
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right now and we'll definitely support
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you okay Kelly Kincaid found you and man
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big shout out to Kelly man big shout out
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to Kelly I appreciate you thank you so
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much all right that Saint from La let's
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go into this all 100 thanks for coming
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by bro
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absolutely Sway in the Morning shave
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four five
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