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johnny b is up the end when he come
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downstairs
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and to the music you know it's over with
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no and i'm not i'm not bragging i'm just
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saying that's what they used to say
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oh man jazz oh johnny b the originator
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himself
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marcy king royalty hip-hop
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hip-hop royalty on the line with us
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right now ladies and gentlemen
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he's been solid since day one he ain't
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just the artist
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this is my brother
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i'm glad you caught that last caller too
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by the way i'm gonna open up the phone
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line citizens jazz always here
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eight eight eight seven four two three
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three four five
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anything you wanna ask him call him and
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ask him especially about this hip hop
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history
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um in his career but i'ma ask you this
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jazz oh man we was telling this story
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about
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women older women who like dating
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younger men
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right and that's what we were talking
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about did you hear that did you hear the
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explanations brother did you hear the
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explanations
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i i heard the tail end of it
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um and
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i i didn't really i didn't really get it
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and
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i i can give you i can give you my take
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on it what was your take on it you you
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have a data
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that's here it is my thing is that
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um we have to admit that this new
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this this new uh form of rap music has
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taken the world by storm and
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is dominated by a younger generation
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and not only are the um
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the younger you know the younger women
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attracted to these guys
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but the older women are attracted to
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these guys in order to
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keep up with the younger women it's the
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whole
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i don't know if y'all know anything
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about mythology the whole venus story
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write that down break that down you know
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the venus the venus story where um
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you know venus is in the sky like the
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planet but it's really you know they
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personify
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her and all the other planets saw her as
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the most beautiful planet
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until the new venus arrives
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and then you know her mother is like
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[ __ ] you know what i'm saying okay so
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so so basically what happens
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is that that's the um that's the
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evolution of the new venus like you know
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like when venus goes dark there's a time
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where venus looks like
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uh um like a star and then it reverts
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back to looking like a planet
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so that's it on an astronomical level
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but on an um a mythological level
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is basically with women
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um you even see it in the animal kingdom
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where
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the um like the the tigress
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the the mother tigress at a at a point
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kicks the um the female out will keep
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the male tigers you know the tiger cubs
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and kick the female out
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so it's it's competitive mm-hmm
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okay but the callers we had
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you know jazz oh ain't competing with
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anybody they they actually going hunting
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they hunting for younger men they on the
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hunt
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yeah i mean that's i mean that's the
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thing the idea
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you know their minds are warped just
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like a lot of the young girls sorry to
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say
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um that you know these young cats they
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they more about their paper you know
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they more about the fast life
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it's less of a commitment you know what
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i'm saying
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you know when they get tired they could
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break loose move on to the next
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right so easily detached
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jazz oh man i gotta get some of these
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books jazz all been reading y'all give
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that man a round of applause
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took it to a whole different level made
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it into a course
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hey in your single days jazzo did you
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ever date an older woman
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uh yeah what was that what was that
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experience like
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and how much older um
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not much older but old enough to get on
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my [ __ ] nerves
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wow okay yeah
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because you know they you know
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it they cross that line sometimes it's
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like yo
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you my girl or you thank you my mother
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yeah the low authoritative and
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you know he knows cool for a while
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you know and sometimes that happens with
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younger girls too
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but um i don't think the
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i don't think the age
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number wise is really important i think
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it's the level of maturity of the
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individual
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yes and and and how how your hearts
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combined
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you know um genetically
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and spiritually that that make
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a couple
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i don't mm-hmm i'm liking where we going
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this conversation there's plenty to see
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man i mean he said nothing about bars
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right now but he's dropping them i get
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it okay
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i have one more relationship question do
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you think jazz that we have
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one soul mate or multiple
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um you have you have multiple
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but it's it's your choice it's your
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choice
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like i like like i'm monogamous
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but if i so choose
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i could go out and pursue other women
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but i love my woman so much
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it's not worth it to me yeah
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it's not worth it to me and and she
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and you know i mean y'all know it's over
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with it
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when i'm saying all this [ __ ] right
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[Laughter]
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she hey she but i mean it's real thought
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she gives me everything i
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and need woman she gives me everything i
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need so i'll be a damn fool especially
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after like i'm 56
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and if i learn now i ain't gonna never
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learn that's real
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yeah it feel good being in love huh
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jazzo
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oh man i can't explain yeah
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never explain it bro hey you ain't mad
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at it man we got jazz over here hold up
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who just caught on the line rich nice is
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that you we got rich nice on the line
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rich n-i-c-e
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[Applause]
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what's going on maintain that you want
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the wrong number a couple of times
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because i i called you a little bit
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after um
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after that um oceana lunch
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and um he was like who's this
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i was like definitely
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i was like this must be the wrong number
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like i just seen it
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that could have been richard you've been
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on this move that day uh
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hey wait hold up jabs we got somebody on
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the line i want to talk to you we got
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dre from pennsylvania on the line drake
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what's poppin
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hey dre hey what's good what's good
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what's going on
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yeah man you know i'm originally from bx
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and everything but uh i wanted to know
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because i know you did a lot of stuff
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back you know
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in the day producing the sofa what what
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what's what's practice you working on
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right now you know what's coming up with
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you
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oh man i got one
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that i felt when anybody asked me about
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something new
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the reason why i say it like this
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is because before
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last week i didn't even see it coming
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so the world ain't even gonna see it
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coming
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that's a sign for me to only say that
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much
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but in other news um
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i'm completing this book called
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universes
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the literary science of jazz oh
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um it's gonna be seven volumes of that
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um
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what is that about jazz all the literary
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science
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what is that what is that about um
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basically because you know a lot
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a lot of people they listen you know
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they listen to hip hop lyrics
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and they're familiar with like metaphor
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simile automata pia entendres
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and stuff but if you ask the average
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person to point
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you know the layman to point it out they
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won't be able to point it out
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this book guides you into exactly what
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it is
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by definition and also gives you some
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background on who i
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am uh some of what i've done
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and then um and then gives you uh
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a background story leading up to
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an example of a landmark verse
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like um say uh say [ __ ] what [ __ ] who
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per se
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um and what i'll do is
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um everywhere there's a usage of poetic
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license
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i'll highlight it and then
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uh note that okay this is a double on
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chandra right here
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okay this is simile right here so that
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people understand like oh
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that's what that means and not just see
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it
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and um you know not just see
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her words and understand it but
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understand its definition
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you know so that they can apply it not
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just in
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you know rap lyrics but you know in
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poetry
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prose any other uh literary um
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writings mm-hmm what about that man
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you go drake man andre you're a citizen
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play in the morning come on man come on
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uh
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uh why tiwa tiwa
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that's um in french by the way y'all in
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case you didn't know what language that
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was
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yes it is yeah you know
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you got a question i do have a question
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for jazz though so i know
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you know everything is an evolution
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everything you know comes forth changes
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and comes back around
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so my my question is what is your
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standpoint or viewpoint on
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you know where we're at right now in
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hip-hop like i know it came from uh you
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know
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you know i've seen it and i'm old enough
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to know
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you know the progression of hip-hop so
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my question is is this is where we're at
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right now in hip-hop
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you know the artists are fly-by-nights
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the you know youtube making everybody
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famous
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instagram making everybody saying that
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nobody really had to work
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and earn earn it so is this where we're
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at right now in hip-hop
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that you know it i don't see the
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substance in it
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is i guess where i'm going with it so do
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you see us you know coming back full
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circle to where you know hip-hop is
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gonna again
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you know have some substance to it i
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guess that's my question
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yes i do and the reason why is because
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you know most things in in this paradigm
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works in cycles
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you know we've seen it like you said you
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you've seen things change
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you've seen cycles um
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or you've seen ways of doing things
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revert back to
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um a form of normalcy not necessarily
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the same
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but the same almost
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you know what i'm saying so it's going
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it's going to it's going to modify but
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it's definitely going to
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um become
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something that is this is the thing
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hip-hop the way the way we know it
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the um i hate to use the word generic
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but that's the
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word that comes across best generic
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hip-hop
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is always going to be here
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the the um the task is to create
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the the channel
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or the ease in which people can access
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it
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see they've made all of this other music
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and i'm not down in the music because
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music is music at the end of the day
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they've made it super accessible they
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put all of this in your face
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and then tucked under the rug and
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everything else
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they put you know hip hop and like what
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about this
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artist like i hear about some of my um
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contemporaries
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and they'll be like oh something such
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just put out album i was like word i was
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like
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nothing about it what i'm saying
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things like that so in a way
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that's our responsibility not saying you
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per se but i'm saying people who
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um who have a finger on
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the um the goings-on
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of of of hip-hop movements
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so i think that i definitely
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i'm sure that yes
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it will revert back to a form of
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normalcy
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and it will upgrade to a higher form
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of um
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i you would say
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genre complexity
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genre complexicity my man jazz oh man
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that's a beautiful word right now
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see what he's saying i see what he's
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saying though i definitely see what he's
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saying
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[Applause]
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um yeah i love your question
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are you in a are you a journalist or
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something are you in the field are you
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just
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you know just someone who loved the
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culture
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i i'm not a journalist i'm in the
15:36
medical field but i do
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love the culture and i notice how you
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know you look at it you know so i
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haven't you know keeping up with you for
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a very long time
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thank you no age going out there but
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it's just it's just something that i
15:48
noticed i'm not saying that
15:50
the the hip-hop that's out here right
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now
15:54
um doesn't have it it's constant because
15:57
you know it's you know that you follow
15:58
the youth
15:59
you know and that's where the money is
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because we as parents have to you know
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provide some of the things you
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want and they're craving these artists
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who are out here right now but i think
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that
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the content that they're putting out is
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helping is
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is destroying us in a way because it's
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not giving
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um accurate depictions
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of what's really going on you know
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because for example when you know you
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hear people say i'm not here chasing
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this bag
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when you chase something it's running
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from you so why would you be chasing
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something
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because it's wrong when somebody chasing
16:32
you you running you you fling
16:34
from that so when you're saying oh i'm
16:36
right here chasing this bag you're gonna
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forever be chasing the bag cause it's
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forever running
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so i think that that right there puts
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the false narrative in people's heads
16:45
because you're not
16:46
i don't want to chase the money i want
16:48
money to come to me
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so therefore i'm gonna do everything in
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my power to attract that money to me
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so i think that's why i find like okay a
16:57
disconnect with the music out right now
16:59
because
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every girl wants to chase a bag
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everybody i had chasing the ball
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up but you know what i ain't trying to
17:04
chase the bag off the ball i want the
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bag to find me in the baller to find me
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like you know or the man of substance to
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find me and i think that
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that's the disconnect because i've seen
17:14
his daughters and they like
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oh my god make this with the knees i'm
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like baby we had max before
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meg mushy was meg like y'all are not
17:23
giving us anything new you're not giving
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us
17:25
our people anything with substance you
17:28
know and i want to say this because i
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was raised correctly and
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before i said anything i spoke i should
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have addressed the king in the building
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and the queen's in the building
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and so for my king i address you hello
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good morning grand horizons
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and my queen's eyes dress you good
17:41
morning queens and horizons
17:43
good morning
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[Applause]
17:52
i want us to be careful making the
17:54
blanket statements about today's music
17:57
it might be just the music you've heard
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or that you've had access to i'm
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speaking in general not too specifically
18:02
12 it might just be the music that your
18:04
particular kid chooses to
18:05
listen to but like like jazzo said
18:08
there's always been
18:09
the generic version of this rap game a
18:11
lot of it has to do with the industry
18:13
when industry got involved
18:15
but there's a lot of beautiful music
18:17
that creates that balance you're talking
18:19
about
18:19
out there twice that has that substance
18:23
that could go alongside the other music
18:25
that's popular and that's working too
18:26
it's the ying and the yang
18:28
i would tell you to tell your daughters
18:30
to pick up rhapsody
18:31
and pick up moo moo fresh okay
18:35
pick a moo moo fresh moo moo fresh
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go get rhapsody young devin
18:42
pick up that young devin keep the other
18:44
stuff they're listening to too there's
18:46
no you know
18:47
let them listen to those other things as
18:48
well just get the you know look at that
18:50
balance to it why it's
18:52
it's out there though you know we had
18:54
chuck diamond public enemy
18:57
you know uh and we got killer mike you
19:00
know what i mean yeah definitely you
19:01
know you got
19:02
ice cube you know um you you know you
19:05
you you got uh
19:06
someone like a almost talib quality
19:10
you know what i mean there's there's
19:12
people in each
19:13
era that kind of fulfill certain roles
19:16
we just gotta
19:17
we gotta give it the energy we gave it
19:18
when we were younger give it to these
19:20
kids that are younger now
19:22
and do the there has always been stuff
19:25
that we considered
19:26
subpar in the rap game since day one
19:30
right and that someone else loved yeah
19:32
that's someone else love but it's out
19:34
there
19:34
so let's i don't want to knock those who
19:36
are winning but let's go
19:37
search for those others who are winners
19:40
oh jazz oh that was a bar you heard that
19:42
jazz oh
19:42
you're a citizen in the morning
19:47
hey hey what was that
19:51
what was that was that a was that a uh
19:53
entendre was that a
19:55
metaphor what was that what i just did
19:57
right there
19:59
that was giving your old self credit
20:01
okay that was
20:02
okay thank you that was what we call a
20:04
flex yeah
20:06
[Laughter]
20:12
got a new project the warm-up is out now
20:15
it's a new ep
20:16
i say it's new but it's a history behind
20:19
this ep right jazz oh so
20:21
this is almost a re-release
20:24
yeah yeah so the the actual
20:28
this is not a um re-release of the ep
20:31
it's actual uh um
20:34
a remaster of a single
20:39
from the ep and that song
20:43
is uh with myself and nipsey hustle
20:47
and it's called looking like the
20:50
remastered version
20:53
and and y'all what what made y'all
20:55
remaster it the
20:56
was the the mix not to your liking or
20:58
did y'all reconstruct the song what made
21:00
you remaster it
21:03
um you know just some just some
21:05
mechanics with
21:07
with the um overall
21:10
[Music]
21:12
you know with mastering and stuff like
21:14
that
21:15
um sometimes the numbers don't go
21:17
through properly
21:19
so we figured that we do a remaster
21:23
and um i feel that it sounds a whole lot
21:26
better
21:28
okay and then what was your thoughts on
21:30
nipsey hustle as an mc
21:33
like being an im just look as an mc what
21:35
are your thoughts uh uh what
21:37
what he brought to the game
21:41
um nips reminds me
21:45
not not his sound not his
21:49
you know vocal texture anything
21:52
but his heart reminds me of tupac
21:59
because when he's telling it
22:05
you know he ain't bullshitting he
22:07
talking to you
22:10
listen to a couple of his songs and you
22:13
realize like
22:15
he talking to you and he means it
22:18
he's he's in he's in his world
22:22
and i always i always respected that
22:25
and you know i'm the last one
22:29
to come on worldwide
22:32
satellite in front you know
22:35
i got to it late you know what i'm
22:38
saying
22:39
almost too late but i got to it late but
22:43
i got to it on time
22:45
at the same time when i heard what i
22:46
heard i liked what i heard
22:51
jazz oh come on uh looking like that's
22:54
on the ep
22:55
uh rich knights you wanted to jump in
22:58
yeah yeah yeah yeah
22:59
i mean we talking comparisons let's
23:01
let's talk brooklyn mc's for a minute
23:03
let's go back and then come forward
23:05
uh who who was some of the terror emcees
23:08
in bk
23:09
at the time when you first was coming up
23:11
pre-record deal
23:13
and and how do you think they compared
23:15
to the terror emcees or right now like
23:17
the kendricks and the j
23:18
coles and the royster five nines and
23:20
stuff like that
23:24
oh man
23:28
is is this really
23:33
it's so it's so many there's so many
23:36
gods
23:37
like like you here
23:42
like i i'll hear drake's on
23:46
and out here i'll hear a couple of fly
23:50
lines
23:54
and then i don't think it's fair because
23:57
i haven't heard enough
23:59
but i've heard so much more
24:02
from contemporaries way back when
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and if i was to make a comparison
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based on that then i would have to say
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like
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you know as far as bars are concerned
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there's there's no you know there's
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really no comparison
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you know um
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i don't i don't like to compare
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too many cats because i don't
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to me some cats are only as good as
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a certain song when you get to
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like all right not to take it out of rap
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or hip-hop but like when you get to like
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a stevie wonder like he's got like a 85
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90 percent ratio
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of like you're gonna like damn near
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everything
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that he did you know what i'm saying
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right
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with with these cats
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today you're gonna like it
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because it plays two thousand
25:25
times over the air
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back when you liked it
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because you heard it in the street
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you didn't hear often but
25:43
you only had to hear once to know what
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time it was
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you get on saying rich right right
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right so it's hard it's hard to compare
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in that sense
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you know um to
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i i don't think it's fair to either side
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to to say like well
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these casts was nicer these cast was
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wack
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because i hear some new cast that you
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know they give it up
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i hear some cats from back when that was
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trash
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and vice versa you know what i'm saying
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yeah so i i
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i'm i'm more concerned with making sure
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i don't ever sound like trash and when i
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do i need for y'all to tell me
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okay oh [ __ ] no problem man okay
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[Laughter]
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we'd be happy to tell you you know
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uh but jazz always here a lot of people
26:52
on the phone lines kim wants to talk in
26:53
chicago grand rise and kim
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hey kimmy hi
26:58
hi hi tracy hi heather
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[Music]
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well
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yesterday about ptsd so i'm still
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waiting
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what's your what is this kim because she
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got me here what what's your favorite my
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name on instagram is kimmy hussels
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k-i-m-n-y yep
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hustle and hustle like you know the
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regular nuts yep
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what the hell kim carroll king
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yeah that's me i am officially following
27:38
you kim carol king
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we are we are connected sell your house
27:42
fast call or text now
27:44
all right well i wanted to talk because
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i had something to say about uh well
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nothing like
27:48
bad or anything but the young lady that
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had just called she mentioned something
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about youtube
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and i just feel as if people need to
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give people on youtube a chance
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because you know a lot of people are
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just like oh they're not real rappers
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they're not putting in work well that's
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what she said they're not putting in
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work
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and i disagree uh specifically because
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there's a chicago rapper here
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that i know and i listen to his music
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all the time his name is rhyme
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major i mean he puts in work so it's
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just like you can't say these people are
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aren't real rappers that's their
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platform that's their platform
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for them to use who who those are for
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the people who are
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like poor like myself who come from who
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comes from the hood
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with nobody to like okay well i don't
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know i don't know sway personally oh i
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don't know kanye west personally
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i don't know how to give this person my
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mixtape i don't know how to like do this
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youtube is a platform and i feel like
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people shouldn't underestimate
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or undermine people that are putting
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their music on this platform
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because they are putting in work they're
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producing a song
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they're sitting in the studio making
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lyrics up all night you know to get
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their music out there
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and i feel like they deserve a chance
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just as well as anyone else so i just
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feel like her statement saying like
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you know like the youtube rappers like
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they're not real they are
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they're trying you have to allow people
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to start somewhere so that's what i have
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to say
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and i also wanted to know um because i
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heard jazzy say he was getting like a
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book or something
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so i want to know how can i get his book
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and um now i know you guys said he has a
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new ep
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so i'm i'm like interested into all this
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stuff so i wanted to know that stuff as
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well
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but i had to say something about that
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comment she made because i'm like wait a
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minute
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not a youtube rapper like people got to
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stop
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calling them that because this is our
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platform like for them
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for the millennials and people come
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after you guys like
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nope a lot of people just don't know
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where to start and that's their
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place to start and i feel like they
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shouldn't be undermined that's just my
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opinion
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yeah i'm mad at that it's hard to
29:45
it ain't as easy as people think to
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become a youtube sensation
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right or tick tock or instagram or all
29:52
of those different things we
29:54
all got social media everybody on this
29:56
call got social media how hard is it to
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really activate especially with these
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algorithms and all of these things that
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play a part in it so it's hard you know
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to become a youtube star
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and sustain it at least you know but kim
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my other thing with it though too
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i think that a lot of us and i think a
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lot of folks of this generation is going
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to say
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about the next generation it's the same
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thing that um
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that jazz always saying that no matter
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what's going on
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it's always going to be that generic you
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know that generic side of it all
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that seem to have that prominence so i
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feel like people got to do a deeper dive
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you know what i mean like if you're
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really interested in the music in the
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culture
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you'll find it you'll find some great
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artists out there we have a lot of great
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artists that
30:39
people don't even know who simba was
30:40
when he came on our show he's from
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oakland
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people in oakland didn't know who simba
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was and it's like why not this dude is
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incredible
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you know uh gotta go find them you know
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and so kim i appreciate your comment
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tazzo when can she get the book um
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i presume
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a release for my birthday which is
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october 4.
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it'll be made available um
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through our social media everywhere
31:14
you'll see it okay everybody can see it
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okay hey tim thank you you're a citizen
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kim thank you
31:22
what's up kevin you're welcome
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[Applause]
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okay i'm following you kim you following
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me i
31:29
am following you sway i've been
31:31
following you for years okay okay great
31:33
follow me too swag well wait what's jazz
31:35
on social media what's his social media
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handle
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zazzle j a
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z o k k kkmg
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that's my um instagram in like nancy g
31:50
no m like mary's in him like mary kk
31:55
emma mary g okay and do me a favor the
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chicago rapper that i said rhyme major
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like he's really really good like really
32:04
good you guys
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tell him to send his stuff to a r room
32:08
go to a a
32:09
r room on instagram and and to hit us up
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at the a
32:12
r room okay in our room on instagram
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thanks guys take care write your
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citizenship wait tell me i'm a citizen
32:20
you're a citizen kim i'm swaying the
32:22
morning come on man we got a citizen
32:24
come on jazz oh man i've been
32:27
appreciating this conversation i i know
32:29
it didn't start the way you thought it
32:31
would but man that's how we do man we
32:32
just built from where we at
32:34
you know what i mean yeah never done
32:37
impromptu man it's beautiful
32:39
there it is and congratulations
32:42
at this stage you know you know i've
32:45
been
32:45
we've been really talking about this
32:46
narrative about our culture
32:48
uh where where folks were to elude that
32:51
is not meant for people after you reach
32:53
a certain place in your life a certain
32:55
stage if you turn
32:56
30 35 that that that this culture is a
32:59
young man's or young woman sport
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so to speak and i i
33:04
i don't agree with that i think the
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culture in itself is so young
33:08
that we haven't even been around long
33:10
enough to establish that
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you know our first generation artists
33:14
are in their 60s
33:15
you know um right now and so people we
33:18
really haven't had a chance to explore
33:21
how much we can do so seeing jazzo
33:23
putting out music
33:25
with this kind of love this type of
33:26
commitment at this point in your life
33:28
man i appreciate you because what you're
33:30
doing is you're showing the world that
33:32
we could continue to be creative in this
33:34
form as long as we want to
33:36
you know the audiences definitely speak
33:39
on that man like if you should be
33:40
putting out a lot of the contemporaries
33:42
that
33:42
came out in the 80s or they don't want
33:45
to put out music
33:46
um perhaps they're scared to feel
33:49
fearful the reaction they may get
33:51
from this current audience but put the
33:53
music out for your audience
33:55
they'll find you you know or a new
33:57
audience that might find you and it's a
33:59
lot of you doing music with nipsey you
34:01
know having a nipsy hustle feature and
34:03
we were talking about this other day
34:04
reach out to these kids man there's a
34:06
lot of ill-ass
34:07
mc's that i think uh um that you could
34:10
collaborate with
34:11
if you reached a certain point if you're
34:13
50 and over and you still making music
34:15
reach out to these kids
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for sure right the the thing is
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um one thing that i found
34:25
with uh a lot of our contemporary sway
34:30
heather is uh
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hang ups you know
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well i ain't doing this because just
34:40
just that in the other right
34:42
it's really it's really like layers
34:46
it's it's layers of i don't want to do
34:49
it because
34:50
i don't want to fail
34:53
or i don't want to look a certain way
34:57
or i'm kind of shy about going about it
34:59
kind of like what you're saying sway
35:02
but the real deal is that
35:08
they should reach back and find
35:13
those feelings that gave them the reason
35:15
why they really did it some of them had
35:18
and some of them it was really just
35:19
about
35:21
you know some money
35:24
and popularity you know
35:29
some of us really just love this [ __ ]
35:31
like
35:32
you know somebody started a little
35:34
cycling like oh work
35:36
you know and you jumping
35:40
or you know um
35:45
or or just making making beats like
35:48
you know i didn't just want to i didn't
35:50
want to just rhyme i wanted to sing
35:52
anything dealing with music i wanted to
35:55
play drums
35:57
percussion instruments um produce
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beats you know because
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that was my that was my root
36:07
like i loved i loved the music
36:10
and when you love the music you're not
36:12
just going to let it go
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it's a part of you you know
36:17
so it's you know it it shouldn't be
36:21
it shouldn't be a problem you know and
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maybe
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my i think my i guess what i'm saying is
36:31
the best the best way we can show
36:35
is by example you know
36:38
for me to keep working you know
36:42
do what i do and
36:46
and succeed
36:49
you know or or or not even so much
36:53
of what people may see as a success
36:56
but what i see as a success
36:59
and um you just gotta do it because you
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love it
37:04
and and i think the truth of the matter
37:08
is that a lot of these men and women
37:11
don't really love it or they've moved on
37:15
to other things or they have
37:16
a million other reasons you know you
37:19
know the kids
37:21
you know too much to do but
37:25
the reality of it is that you always
37:28
find time
37:30
to do whatever it is you really want to
37:33
do
37:34
you always find time to do what you
37:36
really want to do
37:39
so that's what it boils down to
37:43
this um i threw it to the side for you
37:47
know
37:48
from time to time take care of some
37:51
things but
37:52
i never took it out of my out of my
37:54
sights
37:55
because i knew i was coming back to this
37:59
this what i do you know what i'm saying
38:02
yeah
38:03
yeah this is what i do like playing c
38:05
low and slot boxing this is what the
38:07
[ __ ] i do
38:08
yeah there you go jazz oh yo come on man
38:11
big round of applause for jazz oh
38:14
jazz oh man listen i was gonna play the
38:17
look and like
38:18
song with nipsey and i'll play that
38:21
but i want to play the mars cy song the
38:24
m-a-r-c-y
38:26
you okay with that okay beautiful
38:29
okay that song man i loved the video
38:32
i felt like i learned about marcy
38:35
you know recently i went to um queens
38:37
bridge with a big horse
38:39
you know and man i don't get how many
38:42
songs how many pictures
38:44
nas or gaddafi or mob deep or horus or
38:47
braveheart or all these ll or
38:50
whoever from queens but queensbridge in
38:52
particularly
38:54
no matter how many pictures they painted
38:56
and they painted them so well
38:57
and i felt like i knew qb it was until i
39:00
went with horse
39:01
that i was like oh man jeez
39:04
it filled in all the blanks man i i
39:07
understand the magic on a whole nother
39:08
level now
39:10
right that comes out of queensbridge the
39:11
magic that's coming it's on a whole
39:13
nother level
39:14
when i watched your video m-a-r-c-y
39:18
i felt that way i i felt that way about
39:21
marcy
39:21
you know i've heard all these stories
39:23
about marcy but you're filling in a lot
39:24
of blanks with your own particular story
39:26
this is a really intimate
39:28
song am i am i off base here
39:31
no not at all
39:35
is it like
39:38
yeah like i couldn't even um
39:42
i mean the first the first times i
39:44
listened to it finished like i couldn't
39:46
even
39:47
i couldn't even listen to the whole song
39:51
why not i couldn't mention huh why not
39:56
got emotional
39:58
[Music]
40:03
you speak on a lot of names in that who
40:05
in that first verse who was that first
40:07
verse about
40:11
oh man just talking about
40:16
a time when
40:20
we didn't have to
40:23
we didn't have to lock our doors you
40:26
know on the weekends
40:29
the time when you know you could run and
40:31
play and
40:33
you know even though the things when the
40:37
you know the things were in the hallway
40:39
on the first floor they knew their place
40:43
you know the rhinos in in the spot where
40:46
we called the living room they knew
40:48
their place
40:49
they still had respect for our parents
40:55
um second verse i mean
40:59
i mean you got pictures you got pictures
41:02
from cats who were here
41:04
casual gone like
41:07
cav webb i was um
41:12
i was right across on the bench
41:15
when that happened i was ugly um
41:21
we had to hear about uh danny dan
41:24
passing
41:26
on the highway somewhere between va
41:29
and maryland just um
41:34
but you know that's not what it was all
41:36
about it was it was about
41:40
it was about happy times and it was
41:46
weird was weird
41:49
that
41:53
somebody can affiliate happy times with
41:58
all of the you know
42:01
the atrocities but
42:05
it was there it was there we lived
42:08
through it
42:11
it's a lot of amazing pictures man the
42:13
the photo album in this video citizens
42:15
if you get a chance it's called mar
42:17
c y m m hyphen a
42:20
hyphen r hyphen c s e
42:23
e hyphen y w h y but it's on the warm up
42:27
ep that's out now but the video you can
42:29
check it out too on jazo's um
42:31
youtube channel marcy y man
42:35
it's a it's a great song it's a great
42:36
video as always great conversation jazz
42:39
though i appreciate you brother
42:41
appreciate you man not a problem man
42:43
thanks for having me
42:45
absolutely man okay get on the rope and
42:48
they opened up man you got to go perform
42:50
some of this okay
42:52
oh yeah definitely definitely all right
42:55
man the warm-up is the name of the ep
42:57
citizens check it out
42:59
jazzo thank you for coming on man i'm
43:00
about to go jazz
43:02
love brother you a citizen man
43:05
let's play this song rcy
43:08
okay love jazz oh way in the morning
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[Music]
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you
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