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Sep 28, 2022
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yes yes I remember watching that Heather
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be absolutely
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I was there yeah
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I wasn't there but I was there to watch
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it yes I was in the era yeah that was
0:16
Fab Five Freddy yeah that was the fat
0:19
boys that was 1989. crazy that was MTV
0:26
that was unheard of facts that did not
0:30
happen that was rare that was special
0:34
it was special when you saw People Like
0:37
Us on MTV or any TV yeah when you went
0:41
into a record store and then you saw an
0:44
album that was made by people like us
0:47
and when I say us I mean the young folks
0:50
that was coming out of the community at
0:51
that time because other folks obviously
0:53
had albums but when I saw people like me
0:57
who wore clothes that influenced me to
0:59
wear clothes like them because they
1:01
obviously had access to wardrobe budgets
1:04
back then we didn't know about that that
1:06
part we didn't know that when they had
1:09
to change on that some of them weren't
1:10
real we didn't know that oh it wasn't
1:13
that the case okay he said [ __ ] was a
1:16
fiddle sway he'll know what you talking
1:17
about
1:19
okay I'm just trying to get some truth
1:21
out real quick let's see if he's gonna
1:22
tell the truth about that when he didn't
1:24
all right some of them were fake some of
1:26
them were fake right you know
1:30
and it was around 1984 and I remember
1:33
this you know well uh when their first
1:37
album came out
1:38
that I was like you know I was happy for
1:41
them because they just looked like us I
1:44
remember when I first saw Crush grooving
1:46
you know
1:47
um Crush
1:49
grooving body moving body moving and I
1:54
saw these guys they opened the doors for
1:57
hip-hop to be uh it was already
2:01
celebratory but they opened the door and
2:04
said it was okay to be to have fun right
2:07
to be funny
2:09
still be fly
2:11
self-deprecating you know to be a unit
2:14
to be a a collective they made hip-hop
2:18
fun it was and I can't even explain what
2:21
I mean by that disorderlies
2:26
yes right and you know at that time on
2:28
the west coast there was a lot of NWA
2:31
right you know and you know Public Enemy
2:34
well they were starting to form they
2:36
were starting to form yeah right yeah
2:38
okay there was um HBO homeboys yes yes
2:43
you remember so you go we gonna do that
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right okay
2:46
I want to welcome him to the show and
2:49
and say brother you are truly truly
2:51
loved honored and admired ah thanks bro
2:54
from the original group the fat boy
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shout out everybody stand up everybody
2:59
stand up
3:00
shout out
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to him
3:04
shout out to Darren Robinson rest in
3:08
peace to the human beatbox shout out to
3:11
Mark Morales rest in peace to Prince
3:13
Marky D and who we have with us right
3:15
now is the legendary one himself cool
3:18
rock ski big round of applause
3:22
everybody if you're at home stand up
3:25
stand up if you have McDonald's stand up
3:32
man let me check if you win
3:34
[Laughter]
3:36
absolutely you miss your brothers yeah
3:39
very you know very much I think because
3:43
um we were actually we actually grew up
3:45
together so when me and Mark I was eight
3:49
Mark was seven uh we met buff like we
3:51
were like 13 12 years old so
3:54
um buff came around we was in our
3:56
pre-teen so
3:58
um was this the Disco three era disco
4:00
three we won't even call disco three as
4:03
of yet really yeah did you have a name
4:05
we didn't have a name
4:07
um we had a name in junior high school
4:09
no high school we just called ourselves
4:12
the hypnotize five the hypnotize was it
4:14
three of us three three of you know it
4:15
was one DJ One Beat Box Five MCs so we
4:19
would have looked like knew both of us
4:21
when the fire on stage had we stayed
4:23
together it had been a lot of us yeah
4:26
um and some of the members didn't want
4:27
to come to practice so we just kept it
4:29
as three of us wow the human bee box
4:32
buff who who was he inspired by
4:38
um
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I don't know I don't know because
4:41
you know a lot of people say Dougie
4:43
fresh uh-huh a lot of people say buff
4:45
we're from Brooklyn Dougie fresh is from
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Harlem so we didn't we didn't travel to
4:49
Brooklyn we didn't travel to Harlem okay
4:50
you know we were kids so we didn't like
4:52
really leave the block so we didn't know
4:54
who Dougie fresh was so for people to
4:57
say that buff was inspired by Dougie
4:59
fresh buff didn't know who Dougie fresh
5:01
was somebody brought him to our
5:03
attention one day because they knew buff
5:05
was beatboxing and they said yo you
5:07
gotta there's a guy named Dougie fresh
5:09
that does the same thing you do so we
5:11
kind of laughed at the name go like dude
5:13
what the hell is the name Dougie fresh
5:14
so we didn't know
5:16
um plus we didn't go to places like T
5:18
connection Harlem World all those places
5:20
y'all were Too Young Too Young you know
5:22
fever disco fever so we didn't know too
5:25
much we knew about cold crush and you
5:27
know
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um fantastic romantic and you know
5:30
treacherous three all these cats because
5:31
people had the tapes and you know the
5:34
tapes to be passed out in the caps in
5:35
Brooklyn Brooklyn was kind of shut out
5:37
when it came to sorry about that kind of
5:39
shut out when it came down to Hip Hop
5:41
what do you mean me they didn't want to
5:43
mess with Brooklyn you know with some
5:45
Rowdy cats you know Brooklyn was Rowdy
5:48
so the labels the industry didn't want
5:49
to mess with I would say the hip-hop
5:52
scene itself that wouldn't really messed
5:54
with Brooklyn it's like the Bronx in
5:55
Manhattan so we were doing our own
5:57
rendition of what hip-hop was and you
6:00
know we was keeping up with what they
6:01
were doing but a lot of the things that
6:03
came out of hip-hop came from the Bronx
6:06
and Harlem uh-huh
6:08
um once we came out once Jimmy Spicer if
6:11
anybody have turdish me spicy may he
6:13
rest in peace Superman supervised he was
6:16
really the first rap artist to come out
6:18
of Brooklyn East New York we're with
6:19
them wow and we were second so
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um you know so
6:25
Brooklyn always had this kind of stigma
6:28
you let Brooklyn in the house is gonna
6:30
it's the party is that where it came
6:32
from it came from the house
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really used to ask that I like that
6:38
right exactly
6:40
is Brooklyn in the house
6:42
yeah man that that just kind of blew me
6:46
away who would have mixtape DJs out of
6:48
Brooklyn at that time that was huge what
6:50
a DJ Bobo van DC
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um catch like that and I think
6:56
Grandmaster flowers
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yeah from Brooklyn yeah
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um but we didn't have an array of
7:02
Grandmaster flashes and you know
7:05
um Theodore and which Theodore when they
7:07
have those kind of casts we just had
7:09
local DJs who was in the Parks DJing so
7:12
okay so we went from the the original
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group was called the what five
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hypnotized five hypnotize five people
7:19
stopped coming to practice so y'all
7:21
narrowed it down to three note it down
7:22
to three okay um
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disco three who came up with that name
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buff because um
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well he was so we were so naive we
7:32
didn't know there was a disco four no no
7:34
probably we didn't care but at the time
7:37
but he was like yo call ourselves to
7:39
disco three I'm like that's cool because
7:41
we're not making records so if there's
7:43
the Disco 4 who's making records what
7:45
the hell do they care if we're called
7:46
disco
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so we caught ourselves to disco three
7:50
and um we just happened to win a rap
7:52
contest under the name disco three you
7:56
know the rap contest was that the
7:57
contest that was portrayed in Crossroad
8:00
yeah yeah and that was Charlie Charlie
8:03
Statler our former manager uh-huh and
8:06
that was called what was it the 10 pin
8:08
10 pineapple rapping dance contest
8:11
so in that contest so if you recall when
8:14
Kangol kid came up here yeah they were
8:17
in that contest UTFO yeah Rich nice
8:21
rich nice he was first rapper signed to
8:25
um Motown what's in that contest
8:28
and in the video yeah yeah okay okay no
8:32
I'm not being disrespected
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yeah you'll see if you saw him you would
8:36
know him yeah so y'all who did y'all
8:38
compete against that was UTFO who else
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was in it
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um
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all together there were over 700 rappers
8:45
and 700 rap groups yeah SOLO and groups
8:49
so there's like 700 over 700 rappers
8:52
give me the mindset back then what was
8:54
that what did y'all hope to like it's
8:56
700 rappers there's not a lot of
8:58
opportunity in the rap game but folks
9:00
don't understand that part right because
9:01
now you just put your own music out
9:03
stream it you could become your own DJ
9:05
and do your own YouTube channel you good
9:07
money right back then how many outlets
9:09
were there none really I mean you had
9:12
Curtis blow flash into furious five you
9:14
had treacherous three field is four
9:18
um love book Starsky rest in peace um
9:22
sweet G oh wow yeah singing games people
9:25
play with Jerry curls dripping down his
9:27
you know so you had like
9:29
he didn't have a lot of rappers you had
9:31
super bombs of course you had Sugar Hill
9:33
Gang you had um
9:36
yeah but you can pretty much count on
9:40
two hands how many rappers and rap
9:41
groups were out at that time so how old
9:44
were y'all at this time like 15 or
9:47
something 15
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um
9:49
I was going on 16 that particular time
9:51
we won the contest uh-huh buff had just
9:54
turned 15 The Mark was 14. what did the
9:56
future look like to you then did you
9:59
think I'm going to win this contest and
10:01
then what would happen
10:03
we didn't know we wanted the DJ
10:05
equipment
10:06
that's it we didn't know what a record
10:09
contractor actually do for us
10:11
so we you know you're 16 years old you
10:14
don't care about no record contract you
10:16
don't know anything about the music
10:17
industry at all
10:19
um
10:20
so we're we're going to the contest with
10:23
the anticipation of winning the DJ
10:25
equipment which was the second place
10:26
prize and when we won the actual first
10:30
place prize it was like
10:32
we don't want that we want the DJ
10:34
equipment and that's the scene from
10:36
Crossroad right when y'all trying to
10:38
fight right who was y'all was fighting
10:40
for the DJ competition that was the um
10:43
the kid Chad Elliott yeah and yeah yeah
10:46
y'all was trying to fight him for and
10:48
that was based on a true story yeah yeah
10:50
because we were actually we wanted the
10:52
DJ equipment we also won
10:55
um the first place prize was a recording
10:57
contract okay and we also won
11:00
um Atari Atari games yes sorry 2600
11:04
right exactly yeah I know some Atari
11:06
games and we went to Radio Shack to pick
11:07
up our games the next day so y'all y'all
11:10
they were dreaming so small back then oh
11:12
yeah we had no you know one of those
11:14
techniques he had no kind of aspirations
11:16
of being rap stars you know it was just
11:19
being local you know in the so-called
11:22
hood rap stars you know what I mean so
11:23
our thing was just to um rock parties
11:26
Rock basement parties Rock block parties
11:28
that kind of stuff
11:29
yeah we had no idea what a record
11:31
contract could do for us we thought that
11:33
was for professionals
11:35
but Lucy you know once you sign the
11:37
record contract you are a professionals
11:39
become a professional right so you
11:40
remember the contract you signed that
11:42
first one
11:43
um pretty much
11:45
no but um I have no idea um did you read
11:49
it not at all right did you have an
11:51
attorney yeah we had an in-house into
11:54
attorney yeah because it sounds like
11:56
what he's saying is that the same person
11:58
who gave him the record contract was his
12:00
manager as well so how could that no he
12:02
was not manager at the time you know and
12:04
later on down the road people actually
12:06
thought we were set up to win the
12:08
contest because he became a manager
12:10
right that's what that's what I would
12:12
have thought just by you telling this
12:13
story well he put together the contest
12:15
with Sal abatello who owned the Disco
12:17
fever and he in conjunction with WBLS
12:20
and Radio City which was crazy back then
12:23
because Radio City was sold out for a
12:26
rap contest yeah right so it just goes
12:29
to show you the kind of mind and
12:30
promotional abilities that he had to do
12:34
something like that you know he was like
12:36
Ringling Brothers you know on crack
12:38
Charlie Statler yeah he was over the top
12:41
but he was kind of like the the
12:43
Caucasian version of Don King he was
12:47
real yeah he was very in your face and
12:49
yeah I got the Fat Boys and you better
12:51
play them you're selling you know that
12:52
kind of stuff so he was real animated as
12:55
far as a manager but he was a really
12:57
good manager really good promoter you
12:59
know ski Charlie Statler hits me to this
13:01
day promoting yeah yeah he doesn't he he
13:05
does not stop he owned the label right
13:08
10 pen Apple when this happened right
13:10
and then so let's talk about him because
13:14
it wasn't his idea to make you the Fat
13:16
Boys yeah it was his idea he couldn't he
13:19
said he couldn't Market the word Disco
13:22
um and he was telling that there was a
13:23
disco four right who was um I think they
13:26
were in the verge of suing us for it you
13:28
know of course for three names so but
13:31
like buff would always say yo it's three
13:32
of us and four of them how couldn't he
13:34
want to sue us but like like once again
13:36
this is what that the um naive being
13:39
naive part comes in so buff didn't know
13:41
what he was talking about yeah yeah I
13:44
know what I did the millions of dollars
13:50
right exactly
13:52
um so Charlie how did he convince y'all
13:55
to become called The Fat Boys because to
13:57
be called fat back then but not
14:00
something everybody or anybody wanted to
14:01
be called well I mean the um the first
14:04
song was a hit the first song that
14:07
Curtis blow produced was a hit called
14:09
Fat Boys
14:12
he had a name-changing party he did a
14:16
whole name changing campaign from disco
14:17
three two fat boys
14:19
yeah and at the Roseland Ballroom in
14:23
1984 we changed our name from disco
14:25
three to five boys I mean before it
14:27
against it no that's fat boys are back
14:30
yeah that's right boys are bad that's
14:31
our second out yeah yeah that's the
14:33
second album yeah looking for fat boys
14:34
that was the joint that's what me T Cal
14:36
and Chuck my cousin used to sing
14:39
you was fat slave
14:42
um uh yeah you know I wanted to be
14:48
yo this is so interesting so Charlie
14:51
stetler played a major role in your
14:53
careers yeah I mean
14:55
I think with any manager or record label
14:59
or you know anything you want to
15:02
um put as far as guidance over an artist
15:05
it's a 50 50 thing because he can't work
15:08
without the talent you know what I mean
15:09
yeah you gotta have the talent to sell
15:11
it so it's a 50 50 thing as far as him
15:13
being um manager and us being the artist
15:17
he he also deceived the public a lot in
15:19
promoting y'all right because I read a
15:21
story that he said you guys were
15:23
performing on um or something that you
15:25
weren't really performing on we were on
15:27
the Michael Jackson tour the victory
15:29
tour I'm dying
15:31
and we were on the uh Madonna tour wow
15:35
yeah but y'all wasn't really on the tour
15:37
no a matter of fact the Beastie Boys had
15:39
a um a documentary where they talked
15:41
about that and they did I think they did
15:44
one of us on the tour but they wasn't
15:46
paying enough money like fifteen hundred
15:49
dollars a night something like that
15:50
Madonna tour but can you imagine
15:53
um
15:56
and Madonna's the biggest thing on the
15:58
planet back then it's like like a virgin
16:00
day yeah and you got teenage girls
16:02
dressed in white dresses and you're
16:04
looking at three black guys from
16:06
afternoon and when they went over well
16:07
but y'all would have cleaned up after
16:08
the show they would have cleaned up yeah
16:10
yeah man uh wow that's crazy so was
16:14
fresh Fest the first
16:15
big tour you went on yeah first it was
16:18
the first of its kind yeah the first
16:20
hip-hop tour period
16:22
and um the first Festival just consisted
16:25
of us Run DMC Houdini Kurtis Blow
16:28
nucleus who made the song jam on it yeah
16:31
and um an array of break dancers matter
16:33
of fact Jermaine Dupri he was on that
16:36
particular tour as one of the dancers
16:38
his father was one of the promoters Mike
16:40
Morgan right exactly and Russell Simmons
16:43
Charlie Statler Mike Mauldin and Ricky
16:46
Walker put together the first Festival
16:48
what's crazy to me what you saying
16:50
though so like y'all being so young you
16:53
know like you mentioned Jermaine
16:54
obviously he was even younger but his
16:56
dad was out there where were your
16:58
parents like what did your parents say
17:00
to all of this y'all were just out
17:02
signing contracts nobody reading stuff
17:04
like what were your parents and all of
17:06
this I think everything was like a fish
17:07
out of water okay have you ever seen the
17:09
show with Beverly Hills yeah Beverly
17:11
Hillbillies of course that's what our
17:14
parents were like they didn't know
17:15
nothing about nothing so you know what
17:17
they didn't know what the hell rap was
17:18
my father would explain it as that
17:20
Boogity Boogity music
17:22
he didn't know what rap was you know he
17:25
would see raps in my in my notebook and
17:28
I'm supposed to be doing my homework
17:30
what's this long paragraph Posey
17:34
he didn't know what it was so
17:36
um my mother didn't catch on to rap into
17:38
the message
17:40
um she likes Millie Miller yeah she's
17:42
doing Millie Miller sound like a
17:43
preacher and she fell in love with rap
17:45
after that but they have no idea what
17:47
rap music was and so
17:51
for them to sign anything they would
17:53
sign anything they didn't know anything
17:54
about the music industry you know wow
17:57
man we got cool Roski from The Fat Boys
17:59
here big round of applause when I say
18:02
this man's name
18:04
um
18:05
[Applause]
18:06
[Laughter]
18:12
so how did you meet to to people who
18:15
don't realize
18:16
the significance of a Curtis blow right
18:19
if someone asks you who is Curtis
18:21
blowing what does he mean to culture
18:23
what would you say
18:24
Curtis blow is the The Godfather the
18:29
king of rap you know what I mean and I'm
18:31
not just saying that because he worked
18:33
closely with us on our first two albums
18:35
but Kurtis Blow is the first solo
18:39
Superstar rapper
18:41
LL came after but Curtis blow is the
18:45
first
18:46
um he's the first one to sign a big
18:48
major deal with a record company you
18:51
know or assigned to a major record
18:52
company how did people react to him like
18:54
if you see Drake walk out in today's art
18:56
in today's world you know it's going to
18:58
be pheromonial people gonna go crazy
19:00
what was it like for Curtis blow back
19:02
then it was crazy because we were on
19:05
tour on the first Festival
19:07
and Run DMC is like you know the rock
19:10
box and they didn't have walked this way
19:11
out yet because Rock boxed there
19:14
um in king of rock and soccer MCs and
19:17
you know their heart is you know it's
19:19
Fish Grease at this particular time but
19:21
Kurtis Blow is still even though
19:24
um he wasn't closing the show he's still
19:26
the Marquee individual yeah out of all
19:29
of us because everybody knows him
19:30
everybody knows him already you know
19:33
everybody's catching on the Run DMC
19:34
they're catching on to Houdini catching
19:36
on to us everybody already knows Kurtis
19:38
Blow so he has a lot of um you know did
19:41
I say groupies there's a lot of cats
19:45
just coming backstage wanting to meet
19:46
him you know so coach blow is that dude
19:48
you know what I mean yeah he's that dude
19:50
did y'all have group that the fat boys
19:51
have groupies I had I didn't have
19:54
groupies I had um
19:57
yeah buff and Mark where the groupie
20:00
Kings
20:03
is that a sad memory for you yeah
20:08
he was like they didn't like me
20:12
[Laughter]
20:17
the fresh Fest was the first hip-hop
20:20
tour of his kind ever right you know and
20:23
I'm just curious what was it like though
20:24
backstage oh man it was fun it was fun
20:27
because after every show mind you Curtis
20:30
blow is at an age where he's not really
20:32
dealing with Run DMC and fat boys and
20:35
Houdini y'all too young you're too young
20:37
so we're in lunge room every night after
20:40
the show and going over the show who's
20:42
the best right yo how did my because
20:44
money was very egotistical uh-huh so
20:47
he's standing in the middle of the floor
20:48
saying yo how did my set look how did I
20:51
look cool rock
20:52
I don't I don't know I wasn't you know
20:54
checking you out
20:55
but that's what he was about so we would
20:58
go in their rooms and DMC would fill the
21:01
whole
21:02
um tub up with 40s yeah he was like the
21:06
40-0 king him and buff would go through
21:08
that stuff like there's no tomorrow and
21:10
we would just stay in the room to like
21:12
three o'clock in the morning to be
21:13
kicking it having fun you know really
21:15
what about Houdini like I feel like
21:17
Houdini has never gotten his proper
21:20
acknowledgment for with their
21:21
contribution to coach oh man Houdini was
21:23
um I mean you listen to his songs now
21:24
yeah you know they they transpired over
21:27
to the 2022 era because songs like
21:30
friends and freaks come out at night
21:32
yeah I mean these are Timeless Classics
21:34
you know what I mean so Houdini wasn't
21:37
Run DMC they weren't fat boys because
21:39
they wouldn't Market it like that they
21:41
were more marketed like a Heavy D like
21:43
they can get on any kind of tour you
21:45
know what I'm saying you can't put Run
21:46
DMC on uh a midnight star when they were
21:50
popular kind of tour but you could put
21:52
Houdini on there yeah wow so I didn't
21:55
think about it that way but when you
21:56
mentioned like sway saying not giving a
21:58
person a proper flowers before you got
22:00
here I was talking about uh rest in
22:02
power Prince Marky D I I feel like he's
22:05
probably one of the most
22:07
under acknowledged songwriters and
22:10
producers ever when you guys starting
22:12
out and being friends from so young did
22:15
you like witness his songwriting process
22:18
a lot because when people find out the
22:20
same dude when they found out the same
22:22
dude from The Fat Boys was writing for
22:23
Mary J Blige writing this producing that
22:26
you saw it early though right did were
22:29
you there
22:31
um I think with Mark it was more like a
22:33
thing where he wanted to stay in the
22:36
studio more
22:37
um and work with Curtis blow and wow
22:39
even buff wanted to stay in the studio
22:41
more I wasn't really a studio rat like
22:43
that I was more like into just you know
22:45
doing the session and getting the hell
22:46
out of there but they wanted to stay
22:48
behind and learn about the board and
22:49
learn about how to put the songs
22:50
together that kind of stuff so I've seen
22:54
it then I didn't see it when we were
22:55
growing up though
22:57
you saw him like just wanting to that
22:59
learn and wanting that yeah to learn it
23:02
yeah exactly when he was soaking it up
23:04
like a sponge so he was um you know and
23:07
let me just add this if buff were alive
23:10
buff would probably be at least top 10
23:13
producers really without a doubt I mean
23:15
he was he was getting crazy with his
23:18
production who did he work with
23:20
um he worked with Cameo he was he was
23:22
gay
23:23
Cameo he did a song called slide it was
23:26
uh yeah he did a remake with them wow
23:30
but his production was just getting
23:31
better and better because buff is
23:33
musically inclined to begin with you
23:34
know he's beatboxing all the time and
23:36
and um yeah he would definitely been at
23:39
least like top 10 producers
23:42
empowerment do you think the the whole
23:46
concept of being The Fat Boys how did
23:49
that hurt like hurt y'all when it came
23:52
to health be well do you think that led
23:54
to Buffs demise no no buff was um
23:59
buff was you see the thing is that is
24:02
you can be overweight and you can be
24:05
healthy as a horse you know or you could
24:08
be 180 pounds
24:10
um four percent body fat and still have
24:12
a heart attack so it doesn't really
24:14
matter buff had a heart attack not
24:15
because he was bad both was fighting the
24:17
flu
24:18
and his body just couldn't withhold the
24:21
flu I mean I caught the flu really bad
24:23
my body sustained it you know so people
24:25
different people can fight the flu in
24:27
different kind of ways but he just
24:30
couldn't fight it off
24:31
so um he was doing some production for
24:35
the reunion album when he passed away
24:37
and I saw him the day before that yeah
24:40
you saw him the day before he passed
24:41
yeah I saw him on a Friday and he passed
24:44
away Saturday so and you know you could
24:47
just get that feeling something is not
24:49
right you felt it that Friday I felt it
24:52
when I left his house I was going back
24:53
home yeah and I'm in my car and it just
24:56
you know something just comes over you
24:58
you're like
24:59
and you you can feel something but you
25:01
don't know what it is like something's
25:04
creeping up you know it's not it's like
25:06
it's not like somebody's out to get you
25:08
but you can feel if something's about to
25:10
happen you know so when I got the call
25:12
from Mark and
25:14
like 1 30 in the morning
25:17
um I thought they were just at the
25:19
studio just messing around and you know
25:21
so he kept calling I didn't answer the
25:23
phone I was like I ain't got time for
25:24
that it's like 1 30 in the morning I'm
25:25
not about the oldest Studio this lady
25:27
just messed around but then when I
25:30
finally picked up his phone he was like
25:31
yo buff is at the house he's not
25:34
breathing
25:35
so then I jumped in my car and you know
25:37
and the rest was just him just being you
25:40
know in the situation he was in but it
25:43
wasn't his weight you know what I mean
25:45
it wasn't that it was um he was like
25:47
really he had to flew really really bad
25:49
you know so he just couldn't shake it
25:52
off you know wow man resting powered
25:55
above man what what about Mark how how
25:57
did you find out when Mark passed I had
25:59
my phone off I had my phone off and when
26:03
I turned my phone back on
26:06
maybe like
26:07
six o'clock in the morning you know
26:10
because sometimes you know you send your
26:11
phone they're gonna be bothered and
26:14
I'm getting all these freaking text
26:16
messages like my phone is just buzzing
26:19
like I'm like what the hell so
26:22
so somebody that knew us pretty well
26:27
um my man Keith he said
26:29
yo
26:31
um Mark passed away
26:33
so I'm looking at the text message I'm
26:35
like [ __ ] mark
26:41
I called his phone
26:43
and it went straight to voicemail called
26:45
it again
26:47
went straight to voicemail then I text
26:48
him I'm like yo what's up you good
26:52
no I'm not cutting you know what I'm
26:53
saying man I'm just I mean Mark and buff
26:56
knows I joke about a lot but I'm just
26:58
saying what Mark I would have said if
27:00
Mark was here yo I'm not good I'm not
27:02
here anymore I'm saying so
27:04
um that's when it hit me I was like
27:07
hold up then you know I did the the
27:11
modern day thing that people do now I
27:14
went on Google oh wow and that's what it
27:17
see how you found out yeah what made you
27:22
turn your phone off the night before
27:24
I don't know I don't know it was just
27:26
the um
27:28
usually sometimes I do it like maybe
27:31
I would say twice we got just turn it
27:32
off could I be getting a lot of phone
27:34
calls sometimes a lot of text messages a
27:36
lot of people inbox and a lot of people
27:37
DM and say hey what's up this and that
27:39
I'm a cool guy I'm not one of those
27:42
um quote-unquote kind of
27:45
um artists that don't answer back to
27:48
people you know somebody say yo what's
27:49
up yo what's good yo I'm a huge fan of
27:52
this and that oh thanks a lot you know
27:54
some people like to just get the hell
27:55
away from me kind of thing and I won't
27:57
be bothered but this particular day this
27:59
particular evening I just turned the
28:01
phone off like I said when I cut it back
28:02
on I just had so many
28:04
um text messages and you know and missed
28:07
calls all these missed calls is coming
28:09
in yeah you know what what did you I
28:11
couldn't imagine what that must be like
28:13
but these are your lifelong friends
28:15
right these are the guys you became
28:17
famous with and then now neither one of
28:19
them are still with us did you have to
28:22
go did you do any therapy did you do any
28:24
help but like how did you cope with it
28:26
no I'm uh listen
28:29
um
28:30
you get used
28:31
death I mean I'm not saying that to be
28:35
saying like it's a good thing you know
28:37
people some people love to live some
28:39
people know to live is to die you know
28:41
what I mean yeah so
28:43
my thing is lost my mother and father
28:45
back to back lost you know so you lose
28:48
so many people it's like
28:51
it's kind of like it's an out-of-body
28:53
experience at the same time it's like
28:57
what can you do you can't stop it nobody
29:00
been able to stop death like he's he's
29:03
undefeated yeah you know if it's a he or
29:05
she I don't know but it's undefeated so
29:07
you can't stop death it's inevitable
29:09
that and I don't want to be a downer no
29:13
no it's just a circle of life yeah it's
29:17
inevitable that we all gonna leave at
29:19
some point we don't know how we're going
29:21
to leave or win or win you know it could
29:23
be in a split second and we don't know
29:26
so if we knew
29:28
we would try to do the best we can to do
29:31
to do whatever we have to do to stay
29:33
alive you know what I mean so but we
29:35
don't know did it make you want to stop
29:37
rapping after that because you say hey
29:39
then I think I'm gonna go ahead and call
29:41
it a wrap
29:43
no because I wasn't really into rap like
29:45
that in the morning okay yeah I mean rap
29:47
was like um
29:48
you know Raptors got so uh redundant
29:52
everything was just and I just think a
29:54
lot of people are not really listening
29:56
anymore you know to rap music
29:59
um so it wasn't a thing to pull back
30:02
from rap music because it's like you
30:04
know you've been there done that and if
30:06
you reach a certain pedicle in success
30:09
you say to yourself okay I conquered
30:11
that let me move on and go for something
30:13
go for something new
30:16
um but the thing is you just I just get
30:18
tired of it you know just tired of
30:20
um I love the greats like Rakim and
30:22
Coogi rap and all these cats but
30:25
you know after a while you just gets
30:27
sold much of the same old crap how many
30:29
times can you kill somebody how many
30:31
times can you you know have sex with the
30:34
same one upstairs
30:36
so it just gets so redundant it's like
30:39
and it get it's so watered down now
30:41
because nobody wants to hear a song
30:43
anymore but you obviously ain't
30:45
listening to Kendrick I was about to say
30:47
no no I like him okay no I mean all this
30:49
like that and you know and J Cole and
30:51
these cats like that as well because you
30:53
were listening to rap music
30:55
but the overall it's like everybody
30:58
wants to sound like the next person and
31:01
it just gets to the point where you're
31:02
like okay well I heard this song and
31:05
this guy sounds like this guy you know
31:06
so it's just um I don't really listen to
31:08
it like that no more anyway so what are
31:10
you listen to I listen to a lot of Opera
31:13
yeah
31:14
I'm just playing okay
31:16
[Laughter]
31:20
I was like very impressed to be honest
31:23
with you damn it damn let me ask you
31:25
this you said when you reached your
31:26
Pinnacle Tracy why don't you move over
31:28
there for me when you reach a pinnacle
31:30
you know you start looking for new goals
31:32
so what would you consider the Pinnacle
31:34
of the Fat Boy's career was it
31:36
disorderlies was it what Wipeout came
31:39
out
31:40
what was the Pinnacle the pettico was
31:42
the question album The crushing out I
31:45
sold over 1 million copies and let me
31:48
just add that
31:49
selling one million copies at that time
31:51
is huge yeah so you have Run DMC you had
31:56
um LL Cool J we had
31:59
Houdini and one and bad boys that was
32:03
the only four groups that ever went
32:04
platinum at that time what about Beastie
32:06
Boys though Beastie Boys came along like
32:08
an 88 okay yeah they sold like five
32:11
minutes well y'all out selling run or l
32:14
or we outsold
32:16
put it like this this is what um Jaleel
32:19
told me from Houdini
32:21
um
32:23
um we were the first rap group to go
32:25
gold
32:26
and Run DMC is like two months later so
32:29
we were the first rapper I had no idea
32:30
until he told me this but um wow that
32:33
voice was the first rap group to go go
32:35
yeah rap group group that's tremendous
32:39
until I live from Houdini but no right
32:42
right because Sugar Hill Gang went they
32:44
sold a lot but that was a single that
32:46
was in the album you know and y'all had
32:48
the first album to go gold this album
32:50
when y'all were doing disorder leads and
32:52
then crushing that's when Wipeout was on
32:55
the crushing uh right that was on the
32:56
crushing album now for Hip Hop Heads we
33:00
were like yo how far are they gonna go
33:01
man like with the comedy and then it's
33:04
just getting clownish now like and then
33:07
when you you know you sample Louie Louie
33:09
and these kind of do songs with the
33:11
Beach Boys at that time that was
33:13
considered sellout right
33:15
yeah I mean if you want to look at it
33:18
like
33:19
um the Louie Louie and the twist I would
33:22
look at it like it got really
33:25
idiotic for me okay damn I wasn't
33:28
expecting it okay yeah because it's um
33:32
and I respect
33:34
um Chubby Checker he's a musical icon
33:37
but I don't want to do a song with
33:39
chubby check I didn't want to do a song
33:40
with people with the Beach Boys but at
33:42
that time what made y'all do it well I
33:45
mean who else Charlie Statler but okay
33:47
the thing is
33:49
um Run DMC just didn't Walk This Way
33:51
okay and it was successful with that and
33:53
Aerosmith Aerosmith at that time
33:56
everybody's goal was to get on MTV
34:00
um BT was going to play you regardless
34:02
yeah because you're a black artist but
34:04
um everybody go was to get on um MTV so
34:07
I'll go uh manager's goal was if we and
34:11
mind you we met um Beach Boys on the set
34:14
of um disorders disorderly yeah
34:18
and he thought it'd be a good idea to do
34:21
a song with them
34:22
never heard of never knew of a song from
34:25
The Beach Boys I don't even know who the
34:27
hell it was you know Big Girls Don't Cry
34:29
Oh that's doesn't that be the voice
34:33
yeah I just thought they were a bunch of
34:35
guys who you know both on surfboards all
34:39
day I had no idea who it is everybody if
34:41
I played you some Beast Boy songs you
34:43
would know you would know the Gen you
34:45
would know a message well I knew after a
34:47
while yeah you know um but you know the
34:49
thing is the song was highly successful
34:52
and if it wouldn't like being mark would
34:55
always say if we would have stopped at
34:59
Wipeout we was good y'all were good we
35:03
was good
35:04
it wasn't here's the here's the thing
35:06
Wipeout got away with we got away with
35:09
that because it had like the Miami Beach
35:10
kind of sound yeah so you can pretty
35:13
much say play wipe out if you can find
35:15
out you don't have to play it
35:18
I'm gonna go back on this one different
35:20
Generations they're too good right now
35:23
so we could get people an idea put in
35:25
context for the context of it but go
35:27
keep talking y'all feel like if y'all
35:29
had stopped that white out wipe out
35:31
right you said what kind of what
35:34
happened
35:37
it could have you could have still been
35:39
good because after that it was a decline
35:42
for the fat boys right it was a decline
35:44
as far as
35:46
um credibility with the culture right
35:48
but it was as far as the mainstream and
35:51
commercials yeah the doors the doors
35:54
were the the red carpets was getting
35:57
laid out you know the flowers the rose
36:00
petals were coming our way the money was
36:02
coming out the money was coming your way
36:04
oh yeah we were like the highest paid
36:05
rap group at that time so we're getting
36:07
like 50 55 000 in the show now you times
36:10
that to 2022 it's probably a damn near
36:13
250 300 000 so what what your financial
36:16
situation do you feel like y'all were
36:19
treated fairly like if you got 55 a show
36:21
how did that divide it didn't go three
36:23
ways days obviously well put it like
36:25
this 55 of a show for a two-month tour
36:28
okay doing five shows a week wow so
36:32
that's about a little over to about 275
36:34
a week yeah we're getting paid we're
36:36
getting money
36:38
um but commissions management
36:42
all that stuff so by the time you're
36:44
getting home off tour you probably got
36:45
like maybe
36:47
[ __ ] 50 buck 80. and what are you
36:50
thinking about investing back then like
36:52
you gotta be smart yeah what was you
36:55
what was your money going towards when
36:57
it comes to like enjoying your wealth
36:59
um I gotta be 100 honest with you I'm
37:03
gonna be one thousand percent honest
37:04
honest with you I don't know till this
37:07
day how much money I actually made
37:09
wow yeah because you
37:13
you you're dumb to anything and
37:15
everything all you want to do is have
37:16
fun because how much were you at that
37:18
time when you was getting the 55 a show
37:20
we were like
37:22
well I'm the oldest so we were like 20.
37:24
damn might as well still be
37:28
flies over here everybody behind this
37:30
thing 20. did you do taxes how did you
37:34
not know what you made yearly yeah did
37:35
y'all we had accountants we had
37:39
um we paid taxes
37:41
but then you know down the road
37:46
tax managers come lock knocking what the
37:49
hell you know I'm saying so
37:51
man listen it's like this in any field
37:55
of work that you do
37:57
whether it be entertainment or working
38:00
on a construction job you're never going
38:02
to get what you're worth you know what I
38:04
mean so that's just the bottom line it's
38:05
like whatever money you're getting
38:08
um you best believe somebody else is
38:10
getting double triple or quadruple
38:13
somebody's profiting off of it
38:15
somebody's profiting off of it so and
38:17
when you're young and naive and you know
38:20
people always say well that has nothing
38:21
to do with it has a lot to do with it
38:22
because you don't know anything about
38:24
anything you know so um when you're
38:26
young and naive it's easy to pull the
38:29
wall over someone's eyes you know
38:31
especially back then especially back
38:33
then I mean even now you understand what
38:35
I'm saying even now I think I think now
38:37
it's like more people are in the
38:40
artist's business you know you go on
38:42
social media and somebody could call out
38:44
a manager they could call out a record
38:46
label back then they couldn't do that
38:48
they had no idea what was going on you
38:51
know so artists didn't the artist didn't
38:53
you know even the fans now are calling
38:55
out record labels yo
38:57
um boycott such and such they're not
38:59
paying this rappers look at Meg the
39:01
stallion right right yeah so um yeah
39:05
it's different now but the thing is is
39:09
um
39:10
you know being an artist in the music
39:13
industry does not actually mean you're
39:16
going to be a millionaire yeah you know
39:18
because in a lot of ways you're paying
39:19
for popularity you know what I mean so
39:23
um
39:24
you know my thing is is
39:27
just to align myself with people
39:29
and try to give them the best advice I
39:33
can okay
39:35
so
39:37
I align myself with a group by the name
39:39
of certified Nation entertainment okay
39:41
they're young they they ambitious
39:45
um they want to do some positive things
39:47
in this hip-hop culture
39:49
so I lined myself up with them because
39:51
they're not rapping about the same old
39:53
same old you know these guys are good
39:55
Lyricist
39:56
um
39:57
you know City the great City the great
39:59
he's in the building right now good up
40:01
for City the great special ads artists
40:03
yeah don't don't stand up stand up come
40:06
on get in the camera man let them see
40:07
you bro I'm about to play your song I'm
40:09
about to play your song you don't hear
40:11
this lead up
40:14
and so City the great is uh the head CEO
40:19
of the certified nation and the reason
40:21
why I'm saying this
40:23
um and bringing him into this because
40:25
he's he's um he wasn't my age when he
40:29
came out yeah he wasn't like 15 16 years
40:31
old but
40:34
um Everybody deserves a chance to reach
40:36
their goals or to see their dreams come
40:38
true and if somebody can just come out
40:40
if an older and somebody who's been
40:43
through it before yes can come out and
40:45
say hey I can guide you here I can work
40:47
with you you know I can open a few doors
40:50
if I can why not do it and that's the
40:52
thing we have what's wrong
40:54
in hip-hop is that a lot of the Elder
40:57
Statesmen are not helping or even the
41:01
guys who are who got guys on the back
41:04
burner because you still want to shine
41:07
you still want to be that dude
41:09
if your time is coming going past the
41:12
torch pass the Baton to the next brother
41:14
behind you so if you've Got Talent right
41:17
behind you if you've got a rapper behind
41:19
you but you still like nah it ain't your
41:22
turn yet you know I'm still eating
41:25
you ain't selling no more you're not
41:27
eating anymore yeah I'm saying give it
41:29
to the next guy behind you because
41:31
that's money in your pocket anyway so
41:33
and rappers could be like boxers
41:35
sometimes I never want to leave the room
41:36
never want to leave the room but but
41:39
then the flip side of that juxtap to the
41:40
artist the younger artist right when
41:43
receiving the Elder artist right how
41:46
what would you advise them because it's
41:48
just you know this division that still
41:51
exists in our culture where young versus
41:53
old old versus young right you're over
41:56
that right you probably never had that
41:58
you came in as a young artist right
41:59
right um what would you say to those
42:01
younger artists that kind of you know
42:03
subscribe to that division mentality
42:07
um what I say to that is that
42:10
not everybody's like that yeah like you
42:12
got a lot of us out there who want to
42:14
just guide you to where you have to go
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um I'm not gonna be your manager because
42:18
I don't know anything about management
42:19
that's the rest of one thing that people
42:21
understand when you come to a person
42:23
who's been there already can you be my
42:25
manager this person can't manage their
42:27
way they can't manage themselves out of
42:28
paperback but they can guide you in
42:30
different situations
42:32
um so I don't want to be your manager
42:34
but I will be I will tell you different
42:35
things give you Little Gems here and
42:37
there Mentor yeah Mentor you exactly
42:40
that's the word I'm looking for and and
42:41
just let you know that you know this
42:44
whole thing is not all about just making
42:46
a song and sitting back and you know
42:49
hoping it'll work you gotta get out
42:50
there and promote it just the way we did
42:52
back in the day it's no different
42:54
um you got to promote that you got to be
42:56
on your grind with this stuff you know
42:57
it's a process to this so when somebody
43:02
I always tell City the great is when
43:04
somebody is looking at
43:06
is that an outside looking in right and
43:09
they're looking at a rapper and they're
43:11
saying man that's corny like that's ABC
43:14
kind of stuff
43:15
may sound corny to you but I guarantee
43:18
you you can't go in the studio and do
43:20
that you know what I'm saying it's just
43:22
you know I'm saying so I know what it
43:24
takes to put a song together uh-huh you
43:26
know what I'm saying so just because
43:28
you're an outside looking in and you
43:29
listen to a rapper that you admire and
43:32
then the rapper you're seeing on screen
43:33
you're saying oh he's corny he can't rap
43:35
oh no it's not that easy it's not that
43:39
easy and you have to understand when
43:40
people say well how did this guy come
43:42
out he has an engine behind him he has
43:44
money behind them right there's money
43:46
behind these people they just don't wake
43:47
up one morning and put a song out
43:49
there's a team of people around them
43:51
that put this stuff together because you
43:53
could maybe out wrap them but maybe you
43:55
can't out Market you cannot walk exactly
43:57
because you don't have the one common
43:59
thing is the money the money you don't
44:01
have it did y'all so y'all wrote all
44:03
your Rhymes as fat boys right yeah all
44:06
of them all of them yeah was it
44:08
important to you to be seen as a lyrical
44:10
emcee or just make songs that people
44:13
like
44:14
they would I mean they would they
44:16
weren't going to let us be lyrical at
44:18
all the label yeah they weren't going to
44:20
get into that whole lyrical stuff and
44:22
you know even though we started brushing
44:24
up on our craft and getting better it
44:26
was still the same old thing we need a
44:27
top 40 song and you know deadly bombs
44:31
here's the solution smoking so bad I'm
44:33
gonna call it pollution that's not gonna
44:34
that's that's not gonna make top 40s
44:39
rap I know y'all didn't know that but
44:41
it was like what is he doing they
44:43
thought he was spent fire right okay
44:46
so that's skinny like how soon after
44:49
y'all won the competition and got that
44:52
label deal did you realize oh shoot we
44:56
in some [ __ ]
44:58
oh man that's that's funny
45:00
um that's funny because we still didn't
45:03
realize it until we had our first hit
45:06
song so we so was the first hit for
45:09
y'all first hit was Fat Boys set the B
45:12
side back didn't have b-sides let's put
45:14
it up stick them
45:15
and uh I gotta stick them
45:17
let me let this play one Gladys Smith
45:20
did some work on our album too he played
45:22
Baseline on Can you feel it and Larry
45:24
worked with Run DMC too and Houdini and
45:27
Houdini yeah the great Larry Smith is
45:29
that Larry put me inside oh yeah the
45:32
sofa drove forth it never came the first
45:34
Super producer Larry Smith was Larry
45:36
Smith the first Super producer in
45:38
hip-hop was Larry Smith do the research
45:40
Larry Smith may he rest in peace okay
45:42
I'm gonna play City the great song
45:44
because we got to let the next show come
45:46
on but before we do this man and I would
45:48
love to have you up anytime
45:50
anytime because I bro you you we would
45:53
have went to school together you know so
45:54
[ __ ] we with some fat boys Run DMC
45:57
Houdini everybody in Oakland yeah did it
46:01
surprise you how many people you guys
46:03
influenced an impact when you go to
46:05
places like the Bay Area
46:07
oh man we first did our show in Oakland
46:09
yeah it was it was like uh uh it was so
46:13
chaotic was it at the Coliseum it's at
46:15
the Coliseum you know how I noticed he
46:17
was there that was my first Soul concert
46:20
I ever went to remember that bro do you
46:22
remember that that's why you were here
46:24
bro you my [ __ ] hero oh we can
46:27
curse
46:34
[Applause]
46:46
huge in the west coast they absolutely
46:49
love that song out there bro that was my
46:52
first ever concert and y'all was so much
46:56
fun Houdini was the [ __ ] oh man yeah
46:59
Houdini got a lot of burn in the Bay
47:01
Area because the music they made worked
47:03
for our car systems right right friends
47:06
right big mouth yeah one love all those
47:09
songs yeah you lucky just to have just
47:12
one oh man yeah they were way ahead of
47:15
their time and they just made classic
47:16
timeless music you know and
47:20
my thing is um with Houdini fat boys and
47:23
Run DMC it was a competition every night
47:25
every night
47:27
um Run DMC rocked
47:29
um California on one night and they
47:32
couldn't be touched like they just shut
47:34
it down
47:35
Houdini rocked Baltimore one night and
47:38
it just couldn't be they just shut it
47:39
down we rocked Detroit
47:41
and Detroit to like the balcony was
47:44
about to collapse
47:46
mind you really had to show me I put up
47:48
sticking with fat boys that we was like
47:50
the the um Run Deep she was the closing
47:52
act we was like right before Run DMC but
47:55
um yeah it was it was a fun time let me
47:58
shout out my man cocaine cocaine that's
48:00
right cocaine did a song with him so
48:03
when you said did the song you produce
48:04
these songs or are you on it no we did a
48:08
song together okay yeah
48:10
um
48:11
song is dope okay and he reached out to
48:14
me and mind you I wasn't even thinking
48:17
about doing anymore wait what cocaine is
48:19
this this is the West Coast
48:21
yeah yeah did somebody just bit another
48:25
Legend's name
48:28
is family yeah man wow 5187 shout out to
48:32
him huh but me and cocaine collaborated
48:34
on the hush song
48:36
it is it is out of control
48:39
um everybody loves that song hush little
48:42
baby don't say your word this is real
48:45
hip hop so [ __ ] what you heard
48:47
and that's my boy man that's my that's
48:49
my dude I'm playing this song too all
48:51
right uh I could play one right now and
48:54
since City the great is here I don't you
48:55
know he don't want to be be sad if I
48:57
don't play the song man you know it's
48:58
all up in the city it's dope city as far
49:00
as lyrical it's about lyric wire city is
49:03
like you know I put him in the cage with
49:05
anybody you know but come back and do
49:08
one of our ciphers definitely all right
49:10
and bring Ed with you I got a message
49:13
for you from there he just text me
49:15
especially what he said to tell you
49:16
break yourself
49:22
yeah he been looking real slick out
49:25
there too with his head with his afro or
49:27
whatever
49:28
I was just with him on on his 50th yes I
49:31
performed I saw that yes I saw he posted
49:34
it too man yeah man especially at 50
49:37
years old man man ain't God great yes
49:40
yeah he was one of the youngest rapper
49:42
stars ever you know so come on man ain't
49:45
that something wow Yo cool rock ski man
49:48
give this man a round of applause
49:49
brother
49:50
[Applause]
49:59
shout out to Samantha Lavelle doing big
50:02
things with certified Nation
50:03
entertainment shout out pen game classic
50:06
shout out it's only right shout out my
50:08
man law shout out to um LD for life
50:13
um yeah man it's this is life and we're
50:16
living it and we're having fun you know
50:18
it's all good
50:20
um so we living life day by day shout
50:21
out to the whole hip-hop Nation young
50:23
and old young you know what what in your
50:25
in your words what do you feel the Fat
50:28
Boy's Legacy is fatboy's Legacy is the
50:31
first two albums uh-huh that pretty much
50:35
put
50:36
um rap music
50:38
on the map as far as marketing yes Run
50:42
DMC Fat Boys LL Cool J
50:46
um was the Mark we they knew how to
50:49
Market us
50:50
so when you had groups that came before
50:52
us the only reason why they weren't
50:55
successful last Fat Boys Run DMC and LL
50:57
and Houdini because they wouldn't Market
50:59
the same way there wasn't that much
51:00
money behind it but once we came out
51:04
um the money was behind us so the Fat
51:06
Boy's Legacy is one of the the first two
51:09
albums was just Classics you know um and
51:12
the first rap group to ever go gold
51:14
first you have a gold yeah have a gold
51:16
album yeah
51:18
and you brought a lighter side to the
51:21
culture yeah taught us how to have fun
51:24
yeah how to laugh enjoy ourselves yeah
51:27
and still win I think that the the the
51:29
tree of Run DMC falls upon was ever
51:33
hardcores came out yes the tree of the
51:35
Fat Boys k whatever came with the the
51:37
funny side that came out yeah you know
51:39
so
51:40
it's um it's dope it was dope being in
51:44
the group because we grew up together
51:46
yes as brothers anyway so it wasn't hard
51:49
for us to have that chemistry you know
51:51
we we weren't picked he's from Brooklyn
51:54
he's from Queens he's from the Bronx we
51:56
all lived in the same block same block
51:58
East New York Brooklyn
52:00
um
52:01
and let me just add to the biopic is
52:04
being written in the documentary is
52:08
being put together nice oh man you know
52:11
what I needed some money
52:13
all right you need a narrator let me
52:16
know I got you okay yeah definitely and
52:18
I won't charge you I just do it on love
52:20
okay all right I can get you um
52:44
D you are in here too all right City to
52:48
great you got a song called realigned
52:50
that's uh we're gonna play that what can
52:52
you tell us about it
52:54
it's about Bridging the Gap man we want
52:56
I want to do something to dedicate to
52:58
the to the veterans you know what I'm
52:59
saying so that's why I named it
53:01
realigned we had to realign the culture
53:03
nice let me say this to you I respect
53:05
you as a person as an individual and any
53:07
artists who come into this culture and
53:09
respect the pioneers and those that came
53:11
before you it's no different than
53:13
honoring your parents or your uncles or
53:15
your aunties so I appreciate you as a
53:18
young man in this culture recognizing
53:20
the importance of him and all other
53:21
Pioneers that came before you because if
53:24
it wasn't for them it wouldn't be no us
53:26
come on man here's your song right now
53:28
realigned by City the great on that note
53:30
we have nothing
53:31
left to say
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