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Apr 13, 2022
Paul Wall and Termanology stop by Sway In The Morning to talk about their new project.
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[Applause]
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i could go ahead and say it now man
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when i met him he was a mc on the rise
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now he's legendary citizens he's
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legendary from the days to get your mind
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mixed tapes to the people's champ his
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first major label debut i was there
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heather b
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i was there we traveled to his city of
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houston we sat in the hood we sat on
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four fours we chunked to do citizens we
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did it all we rode in the slab with the
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cherry paint we did it all i was right
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there with them i'm talking about the
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one and only legendary pool
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right you're not really doing it if
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you're doing it without the grill you
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left your grills there i did i got uh
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well
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wall's brother man i just should
0:58
let your brother walk around with no
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grill hey johnny well yeah we need you
1:02
on the flight asap man we got to get
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johnny up here quickly
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come on man
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from the days of watching go down we've
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seen this dude when he teamed up with
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guys he just didn't team up with anybody
1:14
he teamed up with people the likes of dj
1:17
premiere and static selector he traveled
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back and forth from massachusetts to
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here in new york city just to be heard
1:25
these dudes have done their own promo on
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the streets paul wall was doing
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promotions before he got to mike 5 000
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watts trying to get on his show this
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dude terminology been carrying people
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crates for years and now he's rocking
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gold chains
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now he's traveling the world he got the
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new project start to finish it's out
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today with the one and only paul wall
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give it up for terminology
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hyenas you got original hyena right here
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original not today but i'm still i still
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got my og card i was about to ask
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you know
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talk to him about that tracy i was
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wondering so it's been a long while yeah
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so we're gonna hear some bars a little
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something something hey so check it out
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right i had two experiences on sway my
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first one i did my best freestyle ever
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to this day my second one i came here
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and i wasn't so proud of it so i said to
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myself i know you know what i'm talking
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about yeah cause you never put that one
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out and i'm happy you didn't because it
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was horrible it was protected
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thank you the first one was a classic
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the second one
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it wasn't so good so i said to myself
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i'm never free selling a good on the
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radio unless i'm ready oh no okay yeah
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and we always say when folks come up
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here do it if you're ready yeah come
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ready quit trying to come off the top if
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that's not what you do right spit or
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written we say all of those different
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things man because you know why it's
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it's it's the days
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when and you correct me if i'm wrong
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paul wall because your your style has
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evolved over the years right but it
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wasn't always what it is today right
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when i listen to these songs um on this
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particular project start to finish i
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love hearing you on these kind of tracks
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right these are like some authentic
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new york savory sounding just like
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sample loop type tracks and you sound
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you mesh so well on these songs with
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terminology who i'm used to hearing on
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those kind of tracks right right where
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did it start though when did you build
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your confidence was you in the mirror
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wrapping the pocket biggie
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now well
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we mean just in general where did it
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start
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oh as a kid i was wrapping little kiki i
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was in the mirror wrapping little kiki
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so a little kiki to you know a lot of
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people know who he is now but um
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he was you know my big daddy came my
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rock him you know for houston you know
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for our era he was you know one of the
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originators with dj screws started off
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dj screw little kiki and fat pad uh rest
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in peace fat pad rest in peace dj screw
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and they were like you know run dmc of
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sources dj and two rappers you know and
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dj screw evolved that to putting out the
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mixtapes all the screwed up click you
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know mixed screw tapes uh and they put
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them out you know not a weekly daily you
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know every day them daily yeah and it'd
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be different mixtapes it wouldn't be
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like you know start to finish coming out
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today now it's just a mixtape come out
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today another maybe two or three come
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out today you know because he would
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personally do the mixtapes for
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individuals i could go buy a mixtape for
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ten dollars give him a list of the songs
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i want and may he might let me freestyle
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on there or maybe if kiki in there he'll
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do a freestyle on there or something
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like that so you might get a classic
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little kiki freestyle on a random screw
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tape that's just not popularized so even
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now they're being found in the vault
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because people got personalized ones
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that aren't in the stratosphere of
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released screw tapes so they're they're
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adding to the they're digging up
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archives that they don't even know
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exists you know now so even as a kid you
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would find you would search for those
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rare little kiki freestyles where he's
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going off and i mean top of the head
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freestyles were you saying the first
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thing comes to your mind nothing's
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written nothing's rehearsed he's making
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up his own slang his own language you
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know the flow patterns everything every
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night in he'd put some melodies and sing
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in there or whatever you assemble these
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metaphors all kind of big words that
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you'd have to look what'd he say you
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look up you know all kind of so
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definitely when it started for me i was
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in that mirror wrapping them what years
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was this about this was uh early 90s uh
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you know the the screwed up click they
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kind of started around like 92 93 maybe
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a little before that um
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but that's when it that's what it was
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for me you know there was some other two
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there's some ghetto boys that i was in
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the mirror you know rehearsing you know
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i definitely there was some pocket and
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biggie that i was you know memorizing
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and spitting too but is that how you
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learn to develop your flow by memorizing
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other people's raps and emulating and
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from the first time i ever spilled a
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verse until now you know one of the
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first things well the first thing i do
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is i pray man god man bring the best out
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of me help me kill it uh and that was
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something new i never heard that my boy
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t ferris saw that uh that lil wayne had
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said that in an interview somewhere and
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he just brought it up to me like about
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maybe 15 years ago he's like hey man you
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see lil wayne in this interview and you
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know me and t ferris were very very
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spiritual so he said hey man look he
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said he prayed every time before you rap
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i said man i'ma try that and it just you
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know you kind of meditate on the beat i
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sit there with the you know the beat
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playing put my head down just you know
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just uh center myself you know you take
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in the beat you know i'm talking to
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myself my inner god as well as the god
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and bring the best out of me so it kind
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of motivate me to get me going get your
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juices flowing and then okay bet you
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know come with us so wow but but the
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second thing i do after i pray is man
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what would little kiki say on here how
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would he say it you know how to hear so
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man big shouts out
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let me let me actually let me add to
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this because you talk in the 90s
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and see you guys coming together as a
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tandem like back then might have been
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unlikely yeah you know being where
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you're from massachusetts boston the
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style different your style is mad
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different but y'all meshed well
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on this particular project but around
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that time what were you listening to
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were you listening to dj screwed
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i never listened to dj's crew like it
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wasn't until bun b
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like bum b when bum b reached out to
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primo and was like who's the terminology
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kid i want to work with him uh-huh that
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was my introduction to really houston
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hip-hop i mean i had heard of ugk i had
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heard of paul wall i had heard of
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different obviously scarface ghetto boys
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but i started learning about uh houston
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hip-hop as a grown-ass man as a little
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kid i was studying wu-tang i was
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studying fat joe i was studying you know
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these different more east coast stuff um
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that that's not true not only east coast
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i i memorized the entire doggy style
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album from snoop when i was nine years
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old you know what what was your favorite
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track on the album man that's my
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favorite album every track probably the
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shiznit the shirts now that
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man if you play it i'll wrap the whole
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thing but okay you don't your mom gonna
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let you listen to the snoop at night
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listen it's not that it's not that she
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let me that she couldn't have stopped
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what i'm saying respectfully because um
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i had a walkman with
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yeah i don't know what it is
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my first tape i ever got was um
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let's go baby
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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so i got to have it
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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next episode i make money and
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[Music]
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that's me walking to school every day
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like type [ __ ] and um so the chronic and
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doggy style was my favorite albums right
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i memorized those first
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and then late like then wu-chen came out
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like the next year and biggie and all
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that because this is 91 92-93 yeah i was
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like obsessed with west coast hip-hop
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first
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and cyprus hill
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and then when the east coast [ __ ] came
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out my mind was blown because the
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lyricism was different like
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inspect the deck and [ __ ] like that like
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come on bro like this [ __ ] is nice like
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this is the next level so now i'm
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memorizing illmatic now i'm memorizing
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it was written now i'm memorizing
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prodigy more deep
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and then like when punk punk came out
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with the dead in the middle of the
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literally little that we know that we
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met until
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i was like nah hold up like i gotta do
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this like professionally yeah you know
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what i'm saying because i was so
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obsessed with it and i was so in love
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with it
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and um i'm still in love with it i'm
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still a fan i still
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like any any artists i like i'll buy
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vinyl buy their cd i'll download their
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music um i'm still a fan yeah what's up
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terminology has joined us with paul wall
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start to finish new album is out today
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citizens we open up the phone lines
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888-742-3345 that first clip we played
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was after the dr green thumb show would
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be real the legend the icon and that's
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where we pulled that little clip from
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you know listening to you right now t
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um i i noticed and you may not have done
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on purpose but it might have been
10:33
conscious that you self-censored
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yourself when snoop said [ __ ] yeah and
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it made me think when it comes to
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those who are latino there are some
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folks that feel like if you rap in your
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latino it's cool to say [ __ ] there's
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some folks that are like not yeah talk
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to me about your decision so to keep it
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real right like in my hood
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it's all day like it's not it's not even
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like people don't even think about it
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it's like everybody says it right in my
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hood my hood is full of latin kings
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jesus disciples it's like
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it's all right to say it but but
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professionally
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around the world people don't understand
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where i come from they don't know i'm
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puerto rican i look like a white boy it
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just feels weird like and it's not right
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so i'm like you know what like when i
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got in the game i'm like yo cool in your
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hood in the projects with your peoples
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when judging you not cool on sway in the
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morning
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you know and that's just my take on it
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about that terminology yeah i'm not mad
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at that ain't no way i'm saying this
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yeah
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my mom is like mother teresa or
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something
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but if i say the n word right now man
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she ain't even listening she gonna she's
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gonna come through the microphone and
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slap me
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but it's different with puerto ricans
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though respectfully for some reason it's
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just like puerto ricans are black and
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and it's like some people get it some
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people don't because puerto ricans are
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black black yeah yeah for sure man i
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mean if you do that if you do the
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history
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you know you do the knowledge on it
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but uh but yeah it's it's like something
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that i professionally like i wouldn't
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want to say that on camera i don't want
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to make nobody be offended i respect
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that yeah me too so paul i have a
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question you mentioned like what you
12:04
were listening to and shout out to kiki
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of course we love him that's family here
12:07
sway in the morning but for me um as
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well like
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i clearly remember scarface being my
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introduction to texas like i was almost
12:17
shocked he was from texas like his flow
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was so incredible but for you guys like
12:21
even db here he's from texas he already
12:24
knew were you guys shocked that
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some of your local artists um
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wasn't big all over the world like you
12:32
did you understand that that like did
12:34
that make sense to you guys we always
12:36
looked at scarface as being like you
12:38
know the pinnacle yeah you know like of
12:41
houston or in the ghetto boys as well
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right but we also always always even to
12:46
today looked at it as though he was
12:48
slighted a little bit being from houston
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yeah he was so far away from
12:52
uh media so far away from music
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music center even as it transitioned to
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the west coast and you know scarface had
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a lot of connections to the west coast
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so he got a lot of that love as well
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then it transitioned to atlanta a little
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bit you know we just kept feeling like
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man he just not getting his proper due
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and i've always felt like you know and i
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could be wrong maybe him being from
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houston is what highlighted him but i
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always felt like man if scarface was
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from new york he'd be considered you
13:18
know the greatest and everybody's right
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you know but being that he's from
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houston maybe not as well but i could be
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wrong maybe he's from houston maybe that
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i don't think you're wrong in fact when
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people mention scarface as one of their
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top anything i say this person knows
13:30
what they're talking about because you
13:32
have to just understand his impact at a
13:34
time where it was so regional and people
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wouldn't let people in the game just
13:38
based on where they was from he cut
13:40
through all that [ __ ] because it was
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just he was just so nice with it nothing
13:44
gimmicky no no uh pop songs none of that
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just real hip-hop one of the greatest
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lyricists
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about of our time yes to add on to that
13:53
i feel like i feel like and a lot of
13:54
people feel this way that pot got a lot
13:56
of his flow from face and if you listen
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to them
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you know what i'm saying so it's like
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face is so influential that people might
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not even realize you biting from him hmm
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they were out around the same time yeah
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yeah uh digital underground and
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yeah forgot if you go back i can't
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remember faces stop singing right same
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thing the same areas
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biggie sound like popcorn i don't want
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to live no more sometimes i hear death
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knocking at my front door that sounds
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like pop to me but then park you know
14:31
remember our interview told me that he
14:33
gave biggie some cues like he gave
14:35
biggie some style points flex oh flex on
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them yeah right yeah he said our
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interview i was just chilling with pogba
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[Music]
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[Music]
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jump in this man yeah because uh heather
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mentioned that i did grow up in texas
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and i remember in high school i was in
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uh growing up in the north dallas area
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and so in the late 90s a lot of our
15:06
classmates would come up from houston
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you know visiting family members that
15:10
would be like yo they got this sound
15:11
called screw music i had no idea i was
15:13
born in new york so to me that [ __ ] was
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like what they're slowing down the music
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like made no sense but then later on you
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know as i got to college i went to
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university of north texas and then you
15:22
would see cars driving down the campus
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and i'm like yo this [ __ ] is like coming
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from everywhere so uh the point i'm
15:29
trying to make is that um when i was
15:30
watching the green thumb interview last
15:31
night uh you guys touched on sort of
15:33
like how
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programmers in certain markets will just
15:37
focus on what's new because they figure
15:39
that that's what's hot and they won't
15:40
show love to people that have been in
15:42
the business still making records to
15:44
this day and so with screw music or or
15:47
any sort of drama that is sort of
15:48
specific to an area screw with houston
15:50
the bay area has a sound uh uh go go
15:53
with dc you know what i mean when you
15:55
see people start to emulate that sound
15:57
but they're not doing it authentically
15:59
does that sort of
16:00
bother you i guess man uh you know i got
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uh you know what i say is this my
16:04
personal view if you ask you know take a
16:07
poll everybody in houston they might
16:08
feel different or they might feel
16:10
similar but i feel you know mixed part
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of me is
16:14
coming up growing up
16:16
listening to this music that i thought
16:17
was the greatest music of all time ever
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created god's gift this is why god
16:22
created the earth was to make screw
16:23
music you know what i'm saying that's
16:25
how i feel so you know to to hear get
16:27
[ __ ] on across the globe by people oh
16:30
man we don't like that country stuff you
16:31
know and then to to be accepted and then
16:34
for it to be
16:35
imitated slightly or people to be
16:37
inspired by it it's just uh you know as
16:39
a fan of the art of screw
16:42
i'm you know i cherish it so i'm like
16:44
yes finally man screw music screw i
16:46
always talked about screwing the world
16:48
up man with the world be the whole world
16:49
gonna be screwed up and now is you see
16:51
elements of this in pop music and all
16:54
and all sorts of music in non-english
16:56
speaking music across the globe so part
16:58
of me is happy to screw music kind of
17:01
made it but there's also another side
17:03
that's like well i wish one this group
17:05
could get the credit like when you do
17:07
the uh you know the pro tools you plug
17:09
in it should be called the screw plug in
17:12
right you know so i see the slowdown
17:14
reverb now which is the thing and they
17:16
think that that's you know they think
17:18
screw copy that you know so it's funny
17:21
to see that uh and then at the same time
17:23
it's there's a lot of people who hold a
17:25
chip on their shoulder in that well they
17:27
ain't had no love for us now they want
17:28
to do it now we they just saw stuff but
17:31
then you see the the other side of it
17:32
where the houston culture just in
17:34
general has evolved not out of this crew
17:38
culture but it's there's other cultures
17:40
that have emerged from here right within
17:41
houston toby
17:43
represent coming with his own complete
17:45
style sauce walker coming in just
17:46
changing the game as well coming with a
17:48
sauce walker shout out you know then you
17:50
got other people like maxo cream coming
17:52
with his own flow pattern he got megan
17:54
and stallion coming with ball auto she
17:56
she doesn't get a lot of the love cause
17:58
a lot of her stuff gets focused on i'm
18:00
talking about like media and fans we
18:02
focus on how she looks and what she you
18:04
know the other stuff but megan be
18:06
dropping bars man i be man if megan was
18:08
around on the screw tapes or the switch
18:10
house tapes we would be looking at her
18:12
as one of the top lyricists in the game
18:14
but because she's shaking her ass a lot
18:16
or she's you know beautiful then it's
18:18
it's different we looking at her body
18:20
i'll say and that's what i think about
18:22
too as a male i'm like man at no point
18:25
in my whole entire life was a crowd full
18:27
of people staring at me like look at his
18:29
pants fitting look at that you know
18:32
yeah he didn't do no push-ups today look
18:33
at uh looking kind of maybe because i
18:35
always grew up overweight and i came in
18:37
the game fat you know what i'm saying so
18:39
maybe that's why they weren't looking at
18:40
me like that but i always feel like the
18:42
double standard of male versus female
18:44
and i see how she gets viewed but when i
18:46
listen to music being living in a house
18:48
full of women you know what i'm saying
18:50
shout out to my son it's me and my son
18:51
and and seven women so you know what i'm
18:54
saying
18:56
female-centric hip-hop that i normally
18:59
wouldn't listen to but when i hear it
19:01
day in and day out i can hear oh wait
19:02
what's she saying oh she's saying some
19:04
bars right there you know what i'm
19:05
saying so shout out to megan shout out
19:07
to all
19:08
the women artists
19:10
you made a great point nobody's ever
19:12
looked at terminology and said he wasn't
19:14
sexy enough on stage
19:16
he ain't dropping it yeah nobody ever
19:18
done that do you ever think of that term
19:20
as an emcee you're not judged by your
19:22
eyelashes and your fingernails
19:24
and your outfit as much as a woman is
19:27
well i'll say this right like first i'll
19:29
shout out to megan stalin because she's
19:31
super nice right and i'm a big fan of
19:33
females in hip-hop right i i i like
19:36
advocate for them and argue with men
19:38
man you know how many men i argue with
19:40
like yo
19:41
remy martin is way nicer than you and
19:44
these dudes like can't take it it's like
19:46
a male ego thing like they can't i'm
19:48
like bro you're not better than little
19:49
kim you're not better than and it's like
19:51
we getting these rap beefs and these rap
19:53
arguments of who's nicer and and i'm
19:55
like yo there's a lot of women that will
19:57
smoke you like then let's go to url
20:00
there's a whole other there's a lot more
20:02
there's like 50 women that will smoke
20:05
there's like 50 shorties that are smoky
20:07
fam like so you know we got to give the
20:09
props to the women but get into the girl
20:11
code carly x right after the female
20:14
producers
20:15
and female dj's
20:17
but back back to me being sexy and all
20:18
that i'll say this right um
20:24
you said something to the effect of like
20:25
people don't look at me because they
20:26
don't objectify men rappers right they
20:28
don't care if you look good they kind of
20:30
want to hear your bars a terminology
20:32
show it's a sausage fest it's like 90
20:35
dudes and they're girlfriends so it's
20:37
like 10 so how many how many
20:38
collaborations have you done with female
20:40
mcs a lot a lot of my a lot of my albums
20:42
have females on them um specifically i
20:45
did two videos with lumi d okay you know
20:47
what i mean shout out to lumi
20:49
wow shout out to lumi you know my sister
20:52
and um if you go back well first of all
20:54
i got 44 albums right mm-hmm that's a
20:56
fact if you go look through all my you
20:58
can't just let that right
21:00
a fact yeah yeah he said he got 44 hours
21:02
44. give it away today
21:05
yeah yeah
21:06
let's go but if you look through the
21:08
catalog right from when i started in
21:09
2003 you know um
21:12
from then to now like every time there
21:14
was a hot like female rapper that i
21:16
could put on i put on like dutch rebel
21:19
beans got bars
21:21
i found i found a lot of these ladies
21:24
before they was popping and believed in
21:25
them and then they went on to pop off
21:27
and i'm like yes that was the point
21:29
that's so good to hear because i feel
21:31
like a lot of dudes wouldn't listen to
21:33
a woman's full-length project kind of
21:36
what what you were saying p like men
21:38
will hear the woman by accident yeah
21:40
what what the singles are or be like
21:42
she's fly but not listening right here
21:44
listen to the whole male project yeah
21:47
because they have to because it's a male
21:48
driven industry but now it's not now
21:51
cardi b is bigger than any male rapper
21:54
yeah you know what i'm saying i hate
21:55
when they got a
21:56
female playing and somebody said hey
21:58
what's she look like hey look say i mean
22:01
i don't maybe it's just different but
22:02
you know we came from the era where it
22:03
was all about the bars and the beats you
22:06
know what i'm saying and then creativity
22:07
on the scratching we want to you know
22:09
you hear dj scratch some some dope on
22:11
there you like man bring that back you
22:13
know just you know that that's what we
22:15
wanted to hear it was never in fashion
22:16
kind of got introduced into it a little
22:18
bit but now it's
22:20
very uh aesthetic driven it's very
22:23
aesthetic driven
22:24
let's do this man because i want to play
22:26
asterisk on what are the songs off the
22:28
project start to finish um
22:31
i'm curious too though um about boston
22:34
what would be considered
22:35
the boston sound let's talk about the
22:38
boss
22:38
we'll
22:43
you know all right so this is uh paul
22:46
wall on terminology the album is start
22:48
to finish is out today check out the
22:50
video for this one asterisk
22:53
these boys right here they shining on
22:55
this they showing off they popping a lot
22:57
of collars pop your collar music right
22:59
here turn that off
23:01
no asterisk
23:04
yo paul been using a lot of big words on
23:06
this project too by the way i've been
23:08
noticing it
23:11
but you got a thesaurus for your
23:12
birthday what happened
23:14
bernie kiss i actually do got a list
23:17
every now and then i hear people i hear
23:18
people say words all the time that i
23:19
don't know yeah you know it'd be like a
23:21
word of the day today's word of the day
23:23
or just in general y'all watch a lot of
23:24
news i don't know what they talking
23:26
about man what they say like man
23:27
whatever actually when i uh when i would
23:29
do a lot of work with the grammys too we
23:31
on the trustees meeting i am say word
23:33
man what what did they just say what
23:35
they say i'm gonna write that down using
23:36
the word i got a whole list of words
23:38
that's good that's great that's how you
23:40
expand your your your vocabulary your
23:43
vocabulary your comprehension skills all
23:45
of that why not when i talk to my sister
23:47
she's one of those people who use big
23:49
words all the time i write them down and
23:51
i dig them up yeah and i try to
23:54
implement them in my conversation like
23:56
allegory was a word that i learned from
23:58
my sister i started using allegory i'm
23:59
gonna write that down allegory paul
24:01
write that down
24:02
you
24:04
yeah i only heard i heard like three
24:06
words on the album that i didn't know
24:07
what it meant and so i said hey paul
24:08
what does pernicus mean he did say that
24:11
yeah and then and then i said what's a
24:12
tourniquet and he's like you know break
24:14
your arm and so he's busting down he's
24:16
you know terminology means study of
24:18
words yeah you know we study words but
24:20
he he came with some crazy vocab on this
24:22
[ __ ] for real so let me ask you this
24:24
term what what is like we talked about
24:26
the houston sound we talked about the
24:29
bay sound
24:30
you know when i think of boston i'll go
24:33
back to you know ed og and the almighty
24:36
rso and yeah all those legendary now you
24:39
got coyler ray who's out you know
24:41
yourself others
24:44
lucas yep uh cousin stairs there's a lot
24:46
of it's a lot of people from from the
24:48
town popping right now so is there a
24:50
sound so i would say the traditional
24:52
boston sound from the 80s and 90s into
24:55
early 2000s was just boom bap it's like
24:58
we're only four hours from new york so
25:00
um the same way that griselda is is from
25:02
buffalo which is six hours from nyc the
25:05
city the boroughs and they sound like
25:08
new york we sound like new york um and
25:10
when we came in the game for instance
25:12
guru is from boston so when you hear
25:14
gangstar that's boston mm-hmm you know
25:16
so we sound like gangstar i i like how
25:18
you did that
25:20
is from texas right premieres from texas
25:22
but they moved to new york and created
25:24
the sound and kept a sound going like
25:27
and so i just
25:29
i blew up because of premiere like me
25:31
and static static been my best friend
25:32
since we're 16. right i'm third i'm 39
25:34
now so i knew static my whole life
25:36
beautiful but when we moved to new york
25:38
like
25:39
static move here in
25:41
in 04 i moved in 07 to the bronx we
25:44
lived in the same uh building and we
25:46
would go try to be around premiere we
25:48
would that that was the big homie like
25:50
that's [ __ ] dj premier we talking
25:52
about so
25:53
you know us running around with primo he
25:55
influenced us so much that when we
25:58
finally when i finally got the watch i
25:59
go down single the next year is so
26:01
amazing the next year the bum b single
26:03
how we rock it was like
26:05
that was my introduction to hip hop and
26:06
i just never changed my sound because i
26:08
came in the game with static and
26:10
premiere why would you change your sound
26:11
just stick to that
26:12
you would have only messed it up if you
26:14
tried to like straight up
26:16
you wouldn't even be sitting here right
26:17
now right so all the kids now they they
26:19
send me you know to do paid features
26:21
right right dm how much for the feature
26:22
fam yo xyz amount then they send me
26:25
drill beats they want me to dance around
26:26
with guns like the gang members and [ __ ]
26:28
i'm like yo i don't do that respectfully
26:30
like that's cool for y'all and i respect
26:32
that that's cool but i don't do that so
26:34
if you want me on like a boombap or a
26:36
soul or maybe a r b record i can go that
26:39
route but i'm not gonna like
26:41
do [ __ ] that that don't sound right with
26:43
terminology the brand people don't want
26:44
to hear that they want to hit me on
26:45
static and primo they don't want to see
26:47
me doing dances and [ __ ] like we
26:49
wouldn't believe you no it just
26:54
look terminology is here paul wallace
26:56
here the new album start to finish i
26:58
keep saying it because i want y'all to
26:59
get it let's go to these phone lines
27:00
real quick brandon's on the line from
27:02
houston brandon robbie
27:04
what up
27:20
when you talk to paul wall can y'all
27:22
just use strictly houston slang and then
27:24
we'll figure it out
27:28
what it do man i'm talking about we are
27:29
here yep yes sir
27:31
i'm out of casper
27:37
came with it yesterday hey trinity
27:39
garden what's up man hey we used to uh
27:41
that's why i opened my first grill shop
27:42
right there in trinity garden on jensen
27:44
shout out to thug city first place i
27:46
ever sold grills cashmere going all day
27:49
long already
27:50
but sway i don't watch this man craft
27:52
like you know a statue with made who
27:54
block a stone i don't watch this man
27:56
crap get better over years
27:58
yeah my cd chase is the house i still
28:00
got color changing quick cds let your
28:02
nuts hang
28:03
with the color changing them yes sir
28:05
shout out to comme une francaise
28:07
my his craft started to my
28:10
if you go look at this old music you
28:11
hear this boy say some of the flying
28:13
stuff you ever heard you ain't never
28:14
heard of a gooch camp pack yeah yeah
28:17
yeah i'm talking about way back then
28:20
i bought that chopped them up part two
28:21
they're chopping them up part two yes
28:23
sir everything home home of crimson all
28:25
that
28:26
i have all that
28:42
they all calling for you man let's go to
28:43
new york we got tony uh tony what up
28:45
tong yo
28:47
what's poppin what's poppin man
28:49
goin on
28:51
this tony dcf radio management okay tom
28:54
my man
28:56
yeah tony you got a question
28:58
i just want to shout out the um screw
29:00
culture me being from new york i was in
29:02
the military so you know we get thrown
29:05
around
29:06
and i was in texas and i fell in love
29:09
with it
29:10
i still to this day listen to screw
29:13
tapes
29:15
um
29:16
he's just a big
29:17
i'm like i'm made for the movie i know
29:18
the movie's supposed to drop and like
29:21
that's just going to put him on another
29:23
level that i wish he would have still
29:25
been here to be able to see
29:27
how loved he is
29:29
for that culture what he did with that
29:32
with that music like
29:34
i got 412s in my truck
29:37
summertime my cab is open and i'm just
29:39
blasting school music through south
29:41
jamaica queens
29:44
yeah man yeah i love that man hey let me
29:46
speak on that because
29:48
what he what he said man that is big
29:51
part of why the screw tapes and the
29:53
screw culture and screw music really
29:55
took a big strong hold in texas it's all
29:58
geographic laid out like when you when
30:00
you came down to the south lead we ride
30:02
you know we everywhere you go you riding
30:04
in a car so you got to have your car
30:06
right you got to have your speakers
30:07
right so we made music specifically for
30:10
the car because that's how we heard the
30:12
music so when you screw the music you're
30:15
stretching it out so the bass the 808s
30:17
are going to be stretched that means
30:18
they're going to be hitting extra hard
30:21
extra long so when you pull up in the
30:23
parking lot if you're playing some
30:26
general like regular speed normal music
30:28
you know which we thought was crazy
30:29
because when we first heard the music we
30:31
first heard it screwed so then when you
30:32
hear normal you like man why sound crazy
30:35
like that where it's the reverse for
30:36
everybody else wow but when you play
30:38
that in your trunk it's gonna have a
30:40
knock you know a boom but when you play
30:42
a screw it's gonna be boom
30:45
right so that's why we were like driven
30:47
toward the screw music where maybe up
30:49
here and it's my theory up here
30:51
you on the train so you listening to
30:53
music on your walkmans before buds
30:55
earbuds you didn't have earbuds you just
30:57
had walkman headphones so there was no
30:59
bass or none of that so you you hear
31:01
different elements of the music so when
31:03
you're out here making music at that era
31:05
you making it a different way so that
31:07
you can hear the different those
31:09
elements in the headphones when we're
31:10
making it for the trunks we hear
31:12
different elements so shout out to all
31:14
the slab riders anybody with some bass
31:16
in the trunk you know what i like about
31:17
houston too that it's a lot like the bay
31:19
area the mindset too you know i'm not so
31:22
much sure about boston because you know
31:24
when i've hung in boston it's always
31:26
been quick i never spent more than two
31:28
or three days in boston where i've sat
31:30
in houston and know a lot of folks like
31:32
family my uncle my father's brothers
31:35
lived in houston i've shared some things
31:37
with paul before him and i've spoken
31:40
i like the hustle
31:42
when chameleon there
31:44
decided to go in into you know uh the
31:47
digital space and start investing in
31:50
startup companies at a time when we was
31:52
like what is he what damn he just they
31:54
writing dirty is banging like what are
31:56
we doing
31:57
um
31:58
i i like that i i being in the game so
32:01
long i knew that it makes sense to plant
32:03
seeds in different areas now we see uh
32:06
snoop in the metaverse you see people
32:08
getting into nfts the whole nine but
32:10
when you would chamillionaire went that
32:12
route you went into grills right was
32:15
that always
32:16
your mindset that i'm gonna use rap to
32:19
launch other things
32:21
well i go to the people who were like
32:23
our big bros our heroes our mentors
32:25
inspired us they always taught us that
32:26
if you do something you love it's not
32:28
work you enjoy you know because we see
32:30
people that go to work every single day
32:33
of their life and they hate their job it
32:35
makes them miserable and then they hate
32:37
their life you know as a you know result
32:40
of it you know as well so i you know you
32:42
see that as a a hard life to live where
32:44
you hate the job you do but you got to
32:46
go there to make a check for whatever
32:47
reason take care of your family so to do
32:49
something you love
32:51
always was more important than doing
32:53
something you hate that you get paid
32:54
good for and then on top of that in
32:56
houston you i was like we were always
32:58
talk you got to have a different hustle
32:59
for every season you got to have
33:01
multiple hustles not just one or you're
33:03
going to you know rely solely on that
33:05
and we would have people like jay prince
33:07
that would always tell you know you'd
33:09
see him doing boxing management or other
33:11
things owning companies putting stuff
33:13
out doing things other than the music
33:15
and when you see when you really break
33:17
down uh the science of uh releasing a
33:21
project
33:22
you know we judge it on the art but we
33:24
also judge it on sales you know
33:27
you know what features is on there what
33:28
did it chart you know was that how many
33:30
views did the video got those are all
33:33
you know just things that i don't
33:34
measure i don't use that as a
33:35
measurement of do i tried you know and
33:37
it's all subjective objective um you
33:39
know it's whatever you what i like is
33:41
not necessarily what you like because it
33:43
affects me a different type of way i was
33:45
you know raised a different way so i
33:47
might relate to something this person
33:48
saying because they saying something
33:49
that i honest for some reason i like it
33:52
uh so you know i try to make my music
33:54
that way too where i try not to get led
33:56
too much by you know oh is this gonna
33:59
make more money than that or how many
34:00
features we got how many views we got
34:02
this and that because whatever that is
34:04
isn't necessarily the first week numbers
34:06
what difference did that make 10 years
34:08
from now you know i'm not listening to
34:10
the album because of its first week
34:11
sales i'm not listening to an album yeah
34:13
because of somebody's haircut or any of
34:15
these other like measurement things that
34:17
you know i'm saying was no i'm not
34:18
knocking nobody if you why you like that
34:19
i like you got some crazy hair well
34:21
that's why you like them cool i like
34:23
such-and-such because of how they
34:24
spitting or what beats they rapping on
34:26
or they subject matter or just i like
34:28
they swag or style beyond that but if
34:31
you make only and you release only music
34:33
and that's your only form of income then
34:36
you're going to be driven by that
34:37
because you of course we all want to be
34:38
successful and if you're struggling
34:40
financially uh well let me go in the
34:42
studio and make an album that's going to
34:43
sell versus let me make an album that i
34:45
can be proud of and sometimes you can
34:47
you can sometimes you can be proud of
34:48
something sales but it's just a
34:50
different direction if you headed in a
34:52
direction and the path only for money
34:54
only for sales it's going to bring
34:56
certain things out of you where if you
34:58
headed to man look we got to make the
34:59
dopest project we ever did you know then
35:02
it's gonna bring different elements out
35:03
of the music
35:05
terminology paul walter here start to
35:08
finish term where would you rank paul
35:10
wall of your top five collaborators is
35:13
he in the list yo bro let me tell you
35:26
i work with some i'm blessed man i work
35:28
with some great rappers i'll say this
35:30
the experience was the best like he's
35:33
the easiest guy to work with bro okay
35:35
i've worked with some people that are
35:37
like
35:38
nowhere close to as uh
35:40
established or famous
35:42
as him and they super diva like he was
35:45
the coolest cat i sent him the check he
35:47
said he sent a verse back in like 10
35:49
minutes like high [ __ ] like he sent
35:51
his [ __ ] back the same night like
35:53
and then you know you have like like
35:55
[ __ ] z-list artists that i've like
35:57
reached out to and never said the verse
35:59
or said it like seven months later or
36:01
sent me to the manager like paul like oh
36:04
word b slaps
36:05
boom verse right back so the experience
36:08
was so fire working with paul he's so
36:10
easy to wear top five collaborators
36:12
absolutely okay then who else styles p
36:15
bun b who bum b for show okay um busta
36:19
rhymes right i love my i have a song
36:21
with busta rhymes called play dirty okay
36:23
um
36:24
man that's a hard one man i got a lot of
36:26
records a little fame little fame
36:27
physiology yeah physiology's classic i
36:30
know you got some classics with mop too
36:32
those that's man's family yeah that's
36:35
family yeah i love those records but uh
36:37
yeah so we say paw wall uh let's go at
36:40
uh styles p
36:42
bun b all right um
36:44
lil fame uh-huh and
36:47
a rapper or a producer
36:49
we could throw a producer in there go
36:50
ahead man i gotta go with static that's
36:52
my daughter
36:58
he got a library i don't know how he
36:59
does it where he finds time mike news
37:01
you're gonna get the last question go
37:02
ahead
37:02
[Applause]
37:04
paul i have a question for you yes sir
37:05
and a huge fan
37:08
and it's being inspired by what you're
37:10
just saying to the previous caller about
37:12
the features and what they're doing now
37:14
what i'm excited for you is that you
37:15
have such an incredible career and i'm
37:18
just curious what state of mind are you
37:20
in right now in terms of what you want
37:21
to talk about now because you have a
37:23
different lived experience from what you
37:26
had when you first came onto the scene
37:28
when you when i was young you first come
37:29
on the scene you kind of like [ __ ]
37:31
everybody [ __ ] the world you know [ __ ]
37:33
whatever the trend is i was always
37:36
anti-trend so you know there are a lot
37:38
of dope artists and music that i never
37:40
listened to because they just were
37:42
trendy but then when they kind of
37:43
weren't trendy okay now then i dive into
37:45
them and now i'm a fan of them but why
37:47
they why they popping i can't is there
37:48
something in me that's just anti-fad
37:51
anti-trend so coming out it was a
37:53
different
37:54
mentality where you know me and come in
37:56
and we had a similar style where we were
37:58
very braggadocious we were heavily
38:00
influenced by the screwed up click and
38:01
the hot boys and the hot boys you know
38:03
they was braggadocios as it got so we
38:05
were very influenced by that where we
38:07
wanted to say something that would make
38:08
you think what you hear and you're like
38:10
man what'd he say oh i mean he crazy so
38:12
you know and definitely having kids was
38:14
a a part of having a son and a daughter
38:17
for different reasons uh and i don't you
38:19
know
38:20
ain't no genderism or nothing going on
38:22
but when i had a son it made me want to
38:24
be a better man for him as an example or
38:27
a lead you know to lead him or guide him
38:29
uh you know having a daughter same thing
38:31
i wanted to be a better man but as for
38:33
different reasons i wanted to give her a
38:35
different example of you know what uh
38:37
you know a good man could be you know
38:39
for for her as an example so i wanted to
38:41
be better so as a son i'm thinking of
38:44
different different ways i'm making
38:45
music different things i'm talking about
38:46
you know also you know for my dog i
38:48
remember making that song with juicy j
38:51
uh and trainer and it was uh t ferris
38:53
had the idea he said hey man we need to
38:54
sample this slob on my knob like corn on
38:56
the cob you know so we sample that let's
38:59
call the boys let's run a train and that
39:01
was the song let's run the train and it
39:03
was hard trina juicy j
39:06
i'm going off on there but i'm just like
39:07
man how can i possibly
39:10
what am i gonna do with my daughter say
39:11
hey dad i'm gonna go let somebody run
39:13
train on me you know like or something
39:14
like man so i just man how can i be
39:16
promoting this but it's not something
39:18
that maybe i was about that in a
39:19
different age or era but now i'm a
39:21
different man so i gotta be better in my
39:24
lyrics as well so that was like one
39:27
stage where i had to okay pivot a little
39:29
bit and then as you get into different
39:31
things you know when you're on a major
39:33
level you get different opportunities
39:34
you don't have when you're not major so
39:36
you have to take advantage of those type
39:37
of things or else you might not ever get
39:39
them you don't have to but i was a firm
39:41
believer and i'm a man i'm doing every
39:43
interview whatever i idea i'm not saying
39:46
no to ideas but sometimes you say no to
39:48
id you say yes to an idea and it turned
39:50
up being corny or something but and your
39:52
mind is not corny it's just different
39:53
but the world see oh it's no not you
39:55
corny so you can you can't be a slippery
39:57
slope and dangerous but definitely where
39:59
i'm at now it's uh
40:01
it's a whole new perspective and having
40:03
the opportunity to work with static
40:04
selector being there with terminology
40:06
where you know we just
40:08
sharpening each other's iron at all
40:10
times everything is bringing the best
40:12
out of me lyrically just i'm seeing
40:14
different skills such styles of you know
40:16
land you know land of the everything
40:18
just all of it is different it's it's
40:20
really brought something different out
40:21
of me to go in a different direction
40:23
that i didn't really even know i could
40:25
do because also when you're in a you
40:27
know when you come out they want to
40:28
paint you as a in a box like or present
40:31
you to the world even off on the
40:32
underground but okay when you get
40:34
presented to the world they want to
40:36
present you in a certain way so if i if
40:38
i and it's all marketing strategy i'm
40:40
not knocking it or upset or none of that
40:42
i don't mean to sound that way at all
40:43
i'm not at all it's great but sometimes
40:46
it had you thinking that's all you're
40:48
capable of doing whatever is in this box
40:50
whatever is expected of you you don't
40:52
even get to try something new so i never
40:55
i never had you know
40:57
premiere static or anr saying hey i got
40:59
this beat from large professor or
41:01
something you know i never had that
41:02
opportunity it was always other styles
41:05
of other beats that were dope as well
41:07
but they lead you in a different
41:08
direction bring somebody so now that i
41:10
have this opportunity where it's hey i
41:13
got you you know and it's not uh you
41:15
know static sending me a beat hey we're
41:16
gonna make a song about grills you know
41:18
or we ain't gonna make a song about you
41:19
know this or that or whatever typical
41:21
paul wall that you might think he just
41:23
sending me a dope beat where it's just
41:25
hard i mean i don't know if you're
41:26
feeling it man hey yeah of course i'm
41:28
feeling that you know and just being
41:30
there it man is i mean it's almost
41:33
magical how it brings something out of
41:35
me like being in there it will you know
41:37
i get into my own little you know like i
41:40
said i'll do a prayer like a little
41:41
seance or something man you know i get
41:43
very spiritual and you know it really do
41:46
bring some out of me and take me to a
41:47
different place where is i'm just really
41:50
going off and there's no no judgment no
41:52
prejudgment no anything it's not me on
41:54
there and stag say damn man we're going
41:56
to power you from brooklyn now man
41:58
what's up man
41:59
you do sound like a 90s brooklyn rapper
42:01
on this project
42:04
like you you sound you sound like a liar
42:08
yo
42:08
y'all both getting busy i'm used to that
42:10
though like term term doesn't leave any
42:13
stone unturned so to speak uh but you
42:15
got busy too i i didn't want to cut you
42:17
off don't have to gotta head to urban
42:19
view right now but talk about the kids
42:20
but they got this new uh this new
42:22
sneaker this patrick ewing joint good
42:25
dad gang what's that about so yeah the
42:27
good that gang is a movement i started
42:29
in 2014 to motivate fathers to be in
42:32
their child's life and from when i
42:35
started the movement to now it's really
42:37
exploded
42:38
um jamie foxx facetimed me talking about
42:41
he wanted help with the brand he was
42:42
wearing a hat you know on set at his at
42:45
his his show with his daughter and he
42:47
was posting posting his shirts on the
42:49
gram and um ludacris and charlemagne all
42:52
these different people um have been
42:53
showing love to the brand and um
42:56
you know it's just it's just all about
42:58
showing love and um being a good parent
43:00
you know what i'm saying so we've been
43:01
pushing the good that gang navigative
43:03
now for like seven years and we got over
43:06
100 tattoos people tattoo it on them
43:08
and yeah we got a sneaker deal with
43:10
ewing so you know the sneaker comes out
43:12
for father's day we've always had
43:13
different type of sneakers for different
43:15
holidays we have christmas halloween
43:17
they're standing at third we never had a
43:18
father's day sneaker now we do so you
43:20
know this father's day yeah it's good
43:23
how can i get a pair uh
43:31
yeah we got you man shout out to patrick
43:32
ewing shout out to the good day patrick
43:34
thank you heather's headed to urban view
43:36
y'all can check her out channel 126 is
43:38
no judgment friday come through and uh
43:41
yeah love y'all good to see you all man
43:43
god bless that's family and now y'all
43:44
should have been here like 10 minutes
43:46
earlier we have food
43:47
[Applause]
43:49
it was a pleasure
43:50
i kept them in the lobby on purpose you
43:52
know paul got a houston appetite
43:54
big plates
43:56
big plates right hey i grew up eating
43:58
leftovers
44:01
i grew up eating cold hot food
44:03
okay
44:04
yo term i'm very proud of you man thank
44:06
you man i've watched you for years man i
44:09
kind of watch you grow up here you know
44:10
me since the kid
44:11
yeah yeah that's like i've known you
44:13
since the old five yeah i met you when i
44:16
was like 22. 22. man that's a wow yeah
44:19
and he's 39 now so that's 17 years
44:22
that's about 30 albums ago yeah
44:24
and yo when i came my best freestyle was
44:27
the sway freestyle just for the record
44:28
like i did flex i did a bt cipher with
44:31
french montana and mike epps i did like
44:34
kev i've done every freestyle platform
44:36
and i always go in but my favorite one
44:38
was the one up here like my fans
44:41
love that freestyle yeah they love it
44:44
and and i love it you know what i'm
44:45
saying it was it was a classic moment
44:47
for me and um you know i just want to
44:49
thank y'all for that absolutely man we
44:51
got more moments to make yeah yeah we
44:52
all look good
44:54
baby come on let's go let's go come on
44:56
man i'm about to get my grills
44:59
but you know scotty atl got at me about
45:01
grills too i just want to listen hey
45:03
shout out to scotty atl my boy hey man
45:05
you know what being you know seen as
45:07
like the grill king man look
45:09
i truly appreciate the opportunity
45:12
johnny gave me tv johnny gave me to sell
45:15
grills with him you know and i don't
45:16
ever take that lightly but i also see
45:18
that if i hold that on to myself then
45:21
it's the opposite of what johnny did for
45:23
me johnny gave me an opportunity to sell
45:25
grills he he he
45:27
johnny literally got over a thousand
45:29
wholesale people that sell grills but he
45:32
makes them you know what i'm saying so
45:33
that's that's how he came in the game as
45:35
a wholesaler so that opportunity he gave
45:37
me
45:38
did he give other people man look when i
45:40
see other entrepreneurs out there
45:42
getting money selling grills big salute
45:45
don't ever stop it ain't never no
45:47
competition on my side if i see somebody
45:49
with a grill in their mouth and i didn't
45:51
make it somebody else made hey i'm just
45:53
happy that somebody out there getting
45:54
their money they out there putting good
45:55
product out there because it used to be
45:57
an era of [ __ ] product you know what
45:59
i'm saying in your mouth now man so
46:01
shout out to all the entrepreneurs out
46:03
there all the grill hustlers out there
46:04
worldwide what it do that's what's up
46:06
man get people out social real quick so
46:08
they can reach out at paw wall baby at
46:11
paw wall baby and since we was talking
46:13
earlier about the female mcs i got a
46:15
shout out to my favorite mc's uh female
46:17
emcees uh definitely megan stallion but
46:19
can the man she's man one of my favorite
46:21
man if she ever come up here i know she
46:23
gonna kill that freestyle man
46:28
shout out to big j she go in too okay
46:30
that's what's up
46:31
terminology st that's terminology with a
46:34
there you go term proud of you brother
46:36
thank you bro man what about me man i'm
46:39
proud
46:43
me and paul might jump on the phone for
46:45
the last time we talk how long we talk a
46:47
couple hours
46:49
i'll tell you one thing i sampled you on
46:50
my new album so don't sue me oh i would
46:52
never do it all right thank you i
46:53
sampled you on my new album i would
46:55
never do that but my lawyer though he
46:56
might yeah
46:58
i wouldn't tell him it wouldn't be me
47:00
i sampled you on my next album it's
47:01
called determination and it's coming out
47:03
this summer and um shout out to uh k
47:05
slay man get well we love you i said
47:08
okay slay and i sampled you on the intro
47:10
thank okay thank you go ahead feel free
47:12
to sample me roberts go for it i'm not
47:13
suing
47:15
i'm not soon if you're a tv show or a
47:17
movie i'm coming yeah
47:18
if you're an artist i'm not suing hello
47:21
i'm proud of both of you guys um don't
47:23
stop keep growing the way you've been
47:25
evolving not just as artists but also as
47:28
businessmen
47:29
as vanguards trendsetters man it's a
47:32
it's very admirable for someone like me
47:34
who watched the whole evolution that
47:36
feels great man it feels great you keep
47:38
me inspired
47:52
you
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