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Aug 25, 2022
Black Thought and Danger Mouse have come together on a new album ‘Cheat Codes’ and stopped by Sway In The Morning’ to talk about it.
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one too we are live have the bee we've
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been talking about this moment all
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morning yes we have been excited excited
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excited i'm opening up the phone lines
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right now you got some juggernauts in
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the room with us right now i feel
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underdressed
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yeah your t-shirt connor you're good
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with the shirt the t alone got you you
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you ready you have to be ready i'm good
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i thought about it because you know i
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was like yo who are we going to talk to
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today and one of the people that we're
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talking today we're celebrating a brand
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new album called cheat codes which is
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out tomorrow
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and one of the people we were talking
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today is my brother who i've known since
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the organics project from the roots
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dropped way back in 93. goodness that's
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how far we call go back when swaying
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tech was bringing him out to le merc
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park marla gibbs theater to perform live
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as the roots yeah hairlines was on a
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bean you remember that
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i had a widow's peak it was like
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crazy
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that that really truly happened you know
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and this man has gone on to be one of
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the most if not the greatest emcee that
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hip-hop has ever seen
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culturally this man has pivoted and
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moved the culture and shook it up in so
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many ways in the last couple of decades
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and continued to do so yeah this man has
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written broadway plays heather b you
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know uh and this man recently put out
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his audible series seven years this guy
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has you can see him on jimmy fallon
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every single night just collecting a
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beautiful check
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you got you got to understand this guy
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is going to be doing the james brown say
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it loud documentary with mick jagger
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and quest
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incredible and he just put out a project
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he put this project cheat codes out
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and lyrically i'm baffled and perplexed
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that he is as hungry as he was before
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the organics album came out and speaking
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of hungry he can cook hey listen man i
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need to take you out everywhere i go
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like man
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i got envious of them because of his
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wardrobe game i've been struggling yeah
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somebody asked me who's your stylist i
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was like i don't know damn
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thank you thank y'all welcome him back
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to the show black dog get that made a
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round of applause always good to be here
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your family
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now black thought brought somebody and
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this is one of the reasons why i wore
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this t-shirt because i never got a
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chance to sit down and speak with this
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man in my mind we have
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in my mind we have met because through
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all of his workings
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i have become a follower um somewhat of
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a stan
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and a big fan of what it what it is that
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he does across the genres i think most
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of us was first introduced to him uh
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when he did the award-winning gray tape
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um when he mixed jay-z vocals over uh
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beatles instrumentals but he didn't just
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do that he
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deconstructed and reconstructed and
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created
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something new for both of those artists
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that had never been done before i
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respected that as somebody who came up
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on the wake up show with dj king tech
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and dj revolution and we used to go
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digging in the crates oh yeah black
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thought you know about this hey you know
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about this what he did with that project
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it really won me over and so when he
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started working with um one of my
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favorite mc's of all time mf doom i said
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this guy is one of us yes the mouse and
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the mask i was with that man from kmd
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days right wow okay uh when we used to
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play peach fuzz on the world famous wake
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up show wow okay and this man was able
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to work work with him on numerous amount
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of occasions and bring him the light
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when he started working with the
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gorillas i think it was a demon day
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project um i'm a big fan of the gorillas
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dan automata is somebody i grew up with
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in northern california who also produced
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for them i knew then that this dude is
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different when esquire said he's one of
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the 75 most influential people in the
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21st century
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they could have said the top 50 in the
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21st century and still been accurate
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about his contributions to the game so
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whenever him and black thought get
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together this is a treat
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this is something special for music
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lovers for the culture this is something
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that you can't really buy this is magic
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happening right here we got them with us
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today give it up for the grammy winning
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i don't know how many you've been
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nominated for 25 30 40 who knows he
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doesn't care that ain't why he does this
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give it up for the one and only danger
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mouse and black thought
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wow
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but you know what's funny is my mind
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scrolls so i'm scrolling over all of
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y'all accomplishments and i'm like
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live live picking the ones
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that i want to say yeah i love it bro
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yeah man tell me about your relationship
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uh black dog let's start with you
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tell me about this relationship you know
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um
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brian and i uh you know who's brian
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brian
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brian is dangerous i called danger most
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brian you know he's calling bride bri-fi
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brizzle but uh brian and i we uh we met
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through uh the root's longtime manager
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uh rich nicholson richards
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you know rich nichols um back in the day
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i think uh early 2000's somehow around
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the time that uh
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brian did the gray album he and rich and
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tom ford and a couple other people like
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you know a really
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random sort of grouping wound up uh on a
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panel together speaking about you know
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the process or you know
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i don't know entrepreneurship something
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um and he made mention to rich that he
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was a fan
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i was one of his favorite mcs and that
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he always wanted to work with me and you
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know rich had you know become a fan of
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his so he re relayed the message and
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that was pretty much it you know um we
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met shortly after that in the studio in
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l.a i think we were both living in l.a
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at the time so it made sense i was
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working on stuff in the studio in a room
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that was you know happened to be the
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same place that he frequented and you
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know we got together and
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in the sort of in-between time the
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interim we started working on some
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joints and we had a couple demos that we
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worked on at that time and
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then you know things sort of took off uh
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the roots started doing late night tv
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okay
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gnarls barkley took off
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danger mouse and um yeah and then we
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revisited the idea a couple times over
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the years um up until uh you know again
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we get together we do a song here and
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there a demo but you know never really
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going into sort of album mode or full
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collaboration mode until around around
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2018 when we started working on this
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hour so i i i remember reading um that i
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thought y'all did do a project that was
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never released is that incorrect danger
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mouse i mean we had some stuff yeah yeah
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no we started but and you mentioned it i
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think in some things that it was
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we wanted it to happen but um
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no it took a while it took a while
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yeah what i like about you
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is you don't just pick any mc to work
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with
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i like that yeah yeah so
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you know if he picks you if he does a
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project around you if he picks you then
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you must be something special yeah right
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and so i i discovered black thought
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early on you know during the world
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famous wake up show we used to go up in
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philly and i think it was the mountain
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brothers tap money all these different
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people would take us around how did you
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discover black dog what was the song so
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i
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i lived in atlanta and there was a
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turtle's records and
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they used to have the listening stations
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in the 90s it was 94 i think
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and i and i saw the uh do you want more
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album on there i hadn't heard of it in
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atlanta people weren't really talking
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about it yet where i was at so i
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listened to it i liked it and
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i couldn't afford it
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so i paid a friend to steal it for me
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who who pays somebody to go
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but then you have you know when you have
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something other people don't have you
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you have a more of a personal connection
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with this so
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that was my that was
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that was my thing so black thought was
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you know that was my emcee that was he
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was my he was my number one so everybody
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had their personal like comic book
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characters or sports
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or something like that but for mcs it
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was always black thought all through
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college and everything i saw him perform
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at my college and everything so he was
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always my favorite rapper so really
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what'd you go to college university of
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georgia oh [ __ ] damn george a guy for
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real yeah yeah yeah so he's not what
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what was happening in georgia at that
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time well 94 yeah you know people
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started you know when outcasts came out
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a lot of stuff from the south you know
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when i first got to the south i listened
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to booty shake and that was it okay but
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then
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it all started to come down there in the
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early 90s when there was wu-tang and
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tribe and things that were it started to
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come down there but it just it took a
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minute because we were in the suburbs of
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atlanta but um it just it took a minute
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so is that where because then i'm
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jumping but it just makes sense to me
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now because i was wondering how did
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knowledge barkley come together how did
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you and ceelo meet but was it from back
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in those days it was through a
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connection from back then but yeah no i
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i performed at a
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at a at a show on campus where ceelo was
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playing and i gave him something years
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early like in the 90s and then we didn't
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want a
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meeting meeting until after until
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early 2000's right before the grey album
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so we had started on nero's bark
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actually before the gray album because
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we had met really yeah behind the scenes
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it just was taking a long time you know
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things take a long time yeah yeah he was
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playing
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yeah
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it sped it up a little bit you know your
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success man it helped
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that's kind of what happened yeah did
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you recognize that the success of gnarls
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barkley also contributed to almost i
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ain't going to say a rebirth because
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ceelo is celo but it it did add to his
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repertoire did you yeah i mean he's very
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special guy and and he was you know
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coming out of atlanta i mean he was
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one of the kings and so
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but but yeah just his versatility but
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also the way he sings and what he does
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he's just bigger than life and it just
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didn't have the you know maybe didn't
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have the context for everybody to hear
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it but
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on pop songs which is what
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you know we accidentally did one
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that worked accidentally it was it was
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it was accidental it was a real accident
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the whole album well
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it was definitely not meant to be a pop
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thing at all
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you know i don't think seal i think at
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the time celo had just gotten dropped
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nobody knew who i was because i hadn't
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even done the grey out when we first
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started it so we were just going and
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messing around mm-hmm
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wow that's interesting uh danger mouse
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is with us black thought is with us as
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well
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what are your thoughts on you you never
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made a song to go pop right no no that
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wouldn't not with any intention not by
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mistake either like
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i'm dying
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yeah no that's um you know uncharted
11:12
terrain for
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for baby i got you that didn't you know
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oh i mean you know that you you got me
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huge that was the first grammy and it
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was huge but i don't i wouldn't consider
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it a pop song i mean i guess it it went
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it was it was a problem it's a big
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record yeah but um yeah it was the
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visual was incredible too oh thank you
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thank you yeah that that visual was
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crazy as i recall we shot the video over
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two days you know in brooklyn and the
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projects freezing cold really those
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people laying on the ground
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and then something happened like with
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the the film
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and it was we had to do a re-shoot we
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had to come back out and you know shoot
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for maybe another day and a half after
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the whole video had already been in the
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can wow but yeah like thinking back we
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knew that that was that was the you know
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vinnie that was the record that you know
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sort of garnered that sort of attention
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you know so we had to get it right
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wow uh what i love to me what both of
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you guys are sort of saying that you
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appreciate time like you understand what
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it takes to create something i think
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we've been in an era you know where
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people are like i did this album in two
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weeks i did this song in 15 minutes it's
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nothing if you get your result that you
12:21
want that's cool but i love hearing that
12:24
things takes time especially for
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creatives because
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sometimes people will put a rush i need
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this date i need this time but you know
12:31
what you want you know how when it feels
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right no not necessarily sound right but
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you know when this feels right and us it
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seems like you two have that in common
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this feels right i'm going to stick to
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this i love that well sway and tracy and
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i were talking about the project this
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morning one of the things that sway said
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about you
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thought i'll start with first is that i
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don't know where this man is finding
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this kind of time like where is he
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finding his time to create like this
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again with time because of that that was
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off mic
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but to me i'm hearing this time thing
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with intuitive and appreciation for it
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but how do you find the time if you
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don't mind sharing creatively do you
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sometimes get a bar in the car and it's
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like i got to pull over and you're
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writing on a matchbook or anything you
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can find like where do you find the time
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i think yeah i'm always writing so um i
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do yeah i will get an idea and have to
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well if i get an idea today because yeah
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you know my fault my son got my phone
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jacked up
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i don't know i am gonna have to write it
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on the master
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you know so wow always like you know
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thinking of ideas and whenever something
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comes to me and i think you know i'm
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sharp enough or i have enough confidence
13:41
in myself that i'm not gonna forget it i
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forget it so i always try and jot down
13:45
that bar that word or you know a
13:47
springboard to it something that's gonna
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just remind me of sort of the space that
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i was in but um
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in this in this project i feel like uh
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you know i i often um
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you know like i'm my my toughest critic
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uh like it's my my own bar i'm trying to
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outdo myself or something that i've done
14:06
before and i think brian um is a like
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you know what i'm saying in in that way
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so we were both sort of like we went
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into this process to make a record for
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ourselves we we wanted to make a record
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that we both could rock with you know
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and
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i guess the idea is that if if it can
14:21
make it past you know so with you yeah
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this this wall then you know we we be
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good money but that's the sort of thing
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that you could only arrive at over time
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you know what i mean it's not you know
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the instant gratification got it for the
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deal so you got it have you guys both
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developed a different relationship with
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busyness throughout all of these decades
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because you know often times when we get
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the honor of speaking
14:46
with artists who have been able to
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transcend all these different genres
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decades time
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they'll say
14:54
there was a moment where i should have
14:57
said no to something to be with my
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family or even to be of myself i'm
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starting to feel that you know like now
15:04
like i think in you know recent years
15:06
um maybe some of the introspection that
15:10
you know i've had you know time to sort
15:12
of get into since i've since quarantined
15:15
and all that stuff um you know post
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pandemic yeah i think um i have to
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remind myself sometimes that i don't
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always have to be
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working i uh i was in la a few weeks ago
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um you know we were there doing uh
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i want to say like playing a hollywood
15:31
bowl or something we were there for a
15:33
couple weeks like back to back
15:35
and um every time i would come out to la
15:37
to do one thing i would schedule studio
15:39
sessions or you know try to figure out
15:41
what else i could do to be productive
15:43
around you know the thing that i'm going
15:45
out there to do yeah and i was working
15:47
with this one producer and he sort of
15:49
you know pulled me to the side and said
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look like you know
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every time you come like you could come
15:53
to la to do a thing and just come here
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and not work like you know
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and it was like it hadn't dawned on me
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that you know so sometimes um i think
16:02
because of the people that i'm inspired
16:05
by you know i'm saying like the the
16:06
danger mouses and quest loves of the
16:08
world people who i feel sort of never
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sleep
16:11
um yeah i do need that reminder like
16:14
okay you know it's cool to take time for
16:16
yourself for your family because also
16:18
you see people sometimes work themselves
16:19
into a hole where you know they work
16:21
until they can't work and then it's like
16:23
it's almost too late you know what i
16:24
mean when you take that vacation when
16:26
you take that trip when you take that
16:27
leave of absence it's you know it's a
16:29
different urgency you know what i'm
16:30
saying yeah so it's an interesting
16:32
balance yeah because work can be a form
16:34
of healing but it also can be a form of
16:36
hiding like for me it's all i know
16:38
either way it's both it's you know what
16:39
i'm saying it's how i hide it's how i
16:42
you know stand out and express myself
16:44
too
16:44
you know
16:45
danger mouse someone i'll be curious
16:47
your take on that dude do you hi is that
16:49
one of the ways you hide through your
16:50
work i think so i think it's a
16:52
self-worth thing i think you know you're
16:54
always working and always trying to
16:56
spend your time on something you're
16:58
you're
16:59
you're comfortable with with that um and
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for me it's easier because i'm not a
17:03
vocalist so i'm always working with
17:05
somebody who's
17:06
really good at something that i'm not
17:08
or you know so if i'm working with
17:10
people who are already great it gives me
17:12
a lot of confidence in whatever it is
17:13
i'm working on because i can tell
17:14
because i'm listening i'm not doing it
17:16
right as much
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so to keep having people i can keep
17:20
doing that with i'm like why would i
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stop
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so so
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yeah i i i guess i don't really stop i
17:26
don't have the whole family yeah
17:28
we got the family
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yeah and things
17:31
you know if you don't have the family
17:33
thing if there's nobody to answer to
17:35
like hey you know what i mean what about
17:36
me and you just keep insane and it's
17:39
hard to shut it off i think sometimes
17:41
people don't realize like as a creative
17:43
every so many things can inspire you or
17:47
excite you and so it's hard it's like
17:49
okay i'm not doing music but i could put
17:51
this in the cooking or i could do it
17:53
this is constant ways to keep being
17:55
creative yeah it's hard to shut it off
17:57
sometimes yeah it really is um i'm
18:01
curious to
18:02
with danger mouse because you've been in
18:04
so many different studios with so many
18:06
huge names
18:08
have you i often have these camera alive
18:10
moments where i'm inside of a moment i
18:13
recognize it and it's like i'm looking
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at
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god or something and saying can you
18:17
believe this [ __ ] like i'm actually
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sitting here
18:21
yep you know what i mean with danger
18:22
mouse and black thought you know have
18:25
you had a moment you know one of those
18:27
camera of life moments being in the
18:28
studio with an artist
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all right i'm i'm saying this
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i'm not just saying to be saying it but
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generally speaking no okay because i'm
18:36
too worried about
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i got to critique everything all the
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damn time i'm always trying i'm always
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thinking about
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what's happening where it's at and also
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i don't have the confidence that it's
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going to be great until it's out so i'm
18:47
like oh man all these people are going
18:48
to hear this thing i'm doing with this
18:49
person it's not going to be as good as
18:50
the last thing did or whatever so
18:53
it's that's not where i get
18:54
excited or happy not in the studio in
18:56
that way afterwards or maybe when you're
18:58
finishing the record
18:59
but when i was working with tariq the
19:01
way we worked was very
19:03
unique it was just the two of us i
19:05
usually use an engineer because i'm not
19:06
an engineer
19:08
usually
19:09
other people around but this was just
19:11
tariq coming over to my apartment before
19:13
he was going kind of to work in a way
19:15
and we were just recording songs
19:16
together on my computer kind of like a
19:20
couple of kids kind of it just felt like
19:22
we were high school kids or college kids
19:24
like doing our project and that's how we
19:26
did the whole first year of doing stuff
19:28
and that's when it felt because i think
19:31
i think we're becoming friends i think
19:33
i'm friends with thought
19:40
but i usually get closer quicker with
19:42
people but he i was
19:44
you know he was you know such a
19:48
i was such a fan you know you know i was
19:50
just you know in that way so it took a
19:52
little while for me to warm up to him
19:54
and i think he thought i was cold the
19:55
whole time yeah yeah
19:57
you just like that you know
19:59
you know he don't be rocking with people
20:01
like you know he's thinking about beats
20:04
but that was the time i think because it
20:05
was just the two of us and it was
20:07
just right there um and because of the
20:09
history because of the history right
20:11
yeah um i want to go into one of the
20:13
songs yeah the album is called cheat
20:16
codes
20:17
why is it called cheat codes um you know
20:20
we have a song on the record it's called
20:23
cheat codes and i think it speaks to um
20:26
you know survival
20:28
and you know the decisions the the
20:30
everyday negotiation that we sort of
20:33
have to make
20:34
in order to uh you know to to to
20:37
navigate the the world yeah you know so
20:40
it's about you know survival and how
20:42
some people are
20:44
you know born
20:45
uh
20:46
further along you know i mean they're
20:48
born with you know a little more uh you
20:50
know in their favor the scale tipped in
20:52
there in their direction a little
20:54
further than others you know i mean with
20:56
those of us you know who who come from a
20:59
place in time uh you know where the
21:01
scale is is tipped in the opposite
21:03
direction like what we have to do how we
21:06
sort of you know get it and how you know
21:07
you have to move through the world
21:09
so i think that's what it speaks to and
21:11
um it was such a powerful um idea
21:14
and and record that it won't like that
21:17
song wound up becoming the the tyler we
21:19
were going to call this album something
21:20
else i think before maybe we it took a
21:22
while before we thought of anything yeah
21:24
initially wasn't it dangerous thoughts i
21:26
think that's what i was calling like
21:28
this ensemble okay you know that um but
21:31
yeah it's i think it's that was a little
21:33
that was a little on the news yeah i
21:35
love albums with a title track like i
21:37
think if you have an album a song should
21:39
be i love that idea so i'm glad you guys
21:42
did that oh thank you i love that i'm
21:44
curious before we play the song um
21:47
i really thought that's why you called
21:49
it that i mean you know me yeah yeah
21:53
i was like i get this because uh because
21:55
we've all
21:56
my code we all have personal cheat codes
21:59
right things we do danger mouse has
22:01
something he does in the studio that he
22:03
discovered that nobody else knows right
22:05
maybe it's how to truncate a sample or
22:07
eq something i i don't know maybe it's a
22:10
snare he likes to use how he mixes it
22:12
all of the above all of the above right
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uh mine was um
22:16
um uh
22:19
i don't want to use the word um charm
22:23
how about the word
22:27
when i discovered as a youth
22:30
you know i used to have conversations
22:31
with adults right this is my people my
22:34
family tell me and i picked up a rhythm
22:37
on that like oh that made them happy
22:38
that made this person and i used that
22:41
rhythm through junior high high school
22:44
out of college work environment that's
22:46
the rhythm that got me in king tech on
22:48
the radio wow
22:49
you feel me being able to talk we ain't
22:51
no training so yeah
22:54
that's the real thing that made me have
22:56
the success i had in mtv yeah being able
22:59
to adjust and so that's the cheat code i
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teach
23:02
young folks that come into the circle
23:04
yeah man what are you projecting that
23:06
energy you project
23:08
can be something that could work in your
23:10
favor right absolutely right and so
23:12
we're going to play this song cheat
23:13
codes and we're going to open up the
23:15
phone lines danger mouse is in here man
23:17
[Applause]
23:20
888 7423
23:23
i said it before they realized that
23:24
black dog king tech and i was on this in
23:26
the early 90s absolutely come on man i
23:29
think the roots might have won a wake up
23:30
show award one of those years
23:33
i think we did yeah i did actually here
23:37
i remember how much they cost you common
23:39
everybody got one
23:40
wow but it worked out so we're going to
23:42
open up the ability for you guys to talk
23:44
to these two gentlemen um
23:47
and any questions you have hit us up we
23:49
got some folks on zoom right now nice i
23:52
love that some folks on zoom right uh
23:53
this is uh let's see if we could pull it
23:55
up
23:56
can you hear us
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okay anybody are y'all mute can you hear
24:03
us say something no we can hear you okay
24:05
okay what's your name young man
24:08
i'm chef james jabbar what up
24:11
hey what's up chef what up hb how are
24:13
you doing i'm doing great
24:15
hey hey chef what's your question
24:19
check this out you know black thought i
24:21
appreciate you for being a mature mc you
24:23
know outside the krd teacher you helped
24:25
shape my mind as a young man so i
24:28
appreciate you on that one for the
24:30
guidance so my question is
24:32
outside of you musicians
24:35
what is a teaching or a spiritual
24:38
teaching that help influence your music
24:40
lyrically wise oh great question um you
24:44
know well thank you for for the
24:46
compliment brother for me um
24:48
you know i grew up in an islamic
24:51
household so like my family was was
24:53
muslim um in philly
24:55
well uh having lost my parents at a
24:59
relatively young age i lost my father
25:01
super early like when i was a baby and
25:04
my mom uh when i was in high school like
25:06
i want to say 10th or 11th grade
25:08
so
25:10
you know um at that time i sort of dove
25:13
into
25:14
all spiritual teachings you know um
25:17
being really close to my grandmother uh
25:19
i spent a lot of time you know in in her
25:22
church so i i feel like i came up like
25:24
the do with the duality of islam and
25:26
christianity in my life
25:28
um
25:30
and that took me to you know all other
25:32
things you know i'm saying i've studied
25:34
you know uh
25:35
different different versions of of islam
25:38
and and buddhism and you know i'm just i
25:41
feel like i'm i'm a spiritual person and
25:43
i think that all informs uh my pen you
25:47
know what i mean
25:48
man great question man i appreciate you
25:50
chef and thank you for always supporting
25:52
the show you're a super citizen so hey
25:54
good morning chef much love to you let's
25:55
get one more i like the zoom
25:57
component that's crazy all right
26:00
how you doing
26:02
rise and shine
26:03
we can't hi
26:06
thank you muted
26:16
[Applause]
26:18
how you doing so what's your question
26:21
my question is um for black thought has
26:25
been part of the jimmy fallon show and
26:28
flew a shoot adventure outside your
26:29
comfort zone as an emcee or was it just
26:31
a natural transition um
26:34
for me you have uh being i think doing
26:37
the tonight show well late night show
26:38
and then into tonight's show um it
26:41
definitely
26:42
played a major role in me getting out of
26:44
my
26:45
you know that that that that proverbial
26:47
sort of comfort zone and you know just
26:49
thinking outside the box as a creative
26:52
just differently um what i one thing
26:54
that i owe a great like a huge part of
26:57
that too
26:58
is uh embracing stand-up comedy
27:01
you know i started i started producing
27:03
the comedy show called black thought
27:05
presents delirious um it started at the
27:07
punch line in philly and then we took it
27:08
on the road to quite a few festivals
27:11
around the world and you know in doing
27:13
that i didn't want to come out and rap
27:15
on this comedy thing i was producing so
27:17
i would come out and do a tight five and
27:20
it's just you the microphone you lucky
27:22
if you got a light and you you know you
27:23
got to connect with the audience so if
27:25
they if they're with you they're sort of
27:26
with you and if they're not then you
27:28
know they're not with you specifically
27:31
you know so that was uh you know that
27:33
was a huge um you know exercise for me
27:36
uh as far as being more transparent and
27:39
uh then you know accessible relatable
27:41
but also uh a lesson for me in
27:44
just
27:45
stoichness and in you know embracing my
27:48
stillness on stage and just being you
27:50
know in order to sort of you know get
27:52
out of your comfort zone and think
27:54
outside the box you got to be super
27:56
comfortable inside your own skin so i
27:59
think that you know doing comedy it
28:00
helped me in that way and that went on
28:02
to inform my performance uh you know
28:05
in musical theater um which you know
28:07
when i come back to like rapping and
28:09
having to perform with the roots it's
28:11
it's you know it's a no-brainer i just
28:13
feel like i'm a thousand percent better
28:15
having you know uh
28:17
engaging those two intensives wow nice
28:20
nicole great question and thank you for
28:22
tuning in you're a super citizen i'm
28:23
swaying the morning nicole
28:26
okay uh
28:27
black no more
28:29
right that the they wrote the music in
28:31
the lyrics for that musical and so that
28:34
that is in correlation to what you're
28:35
saying right now right so what did you
28:37
walk away with from that um i walked
28:39
away just with uh
28:41
a deeper i mean i always appreciated and
28:43
respected um the contributions of you
28:46
know people who come from the the
28:48
theatrical background and you know
28:50
people who are able to you know become
28:53
playwrights and write in that sense but
28:55
just a newfound respect for you know
28:57
people who come from that space
28:58
especially musical theater um it's it's
29:01
it's not easy to write you know for you
29:04
know 20 different voices you know what i
29:06
mean and then uh in my case having to
29:09
step into a role too it was just a huge
29:11
challenge to sort of undertake you know
29:13
i mean lots of heavy lifting to be on
29:15
both sides of of the table so to speak
29:17
but um you know if it
29:19
it was the most immersive learning
29:21
experience that i could ask for so like
29:23
now i know it i know how to produce you
29:25
know i'm a composer arranger i've you
29:27
know i've acted you know in in musical
29:29
theater so i got you know sort of all of
29:31
the experience at once i wouldn't advise
29:33
that because um you know like i was
29:36
a couple days trying to pull my beard
29:43
we'll be back we'll be on broadway soon
29:44
let me let me ask you this because it
29:46
feels like when you do these projects
29:48
that you know james you know and and
29:50
quests and all these guys are on the
29:52
sideline are they do they participate do
29:55
they give input you know in the roots
29:57
man we all have so much cooking up yeah
30:00
everybody has a bunch going on so
30:03
i think the roots is a collective first
30:04
and foremost yeah so it's we're a group
30:07
of you know people who sort of have
30:09
their own solo thing popping and um
30:13
you know i think the more successful
30:15
that we are as individuals it just gives
30:18
us more opportunity to reach back and
30:20
say yo let me put you on this thing you
30:21
producing this is me you wanna you know
30:23
what i mean we all sort of work together
30:25
so um it's just a lot of overlap you
30:26
know what i mean if you hire james
30:28
poison
30:29
the roots is working on that the high
30:31
quest love the rules was working out so
30:33
that's how it sort of worked do you guys
30:35
get the key quest loves oscar at your
30:37
house
30:39
i mean like he's
30:40
really not like he's never been big on
30:43
putting the awards on the pedestal like
30:46
you know if i'm if my memory serves me
30:48
you know correctly i think that oscar
30:50
is in the bathroom it's in the bathroom
30:52
wow wow you you saw it there
30:55
as you were yeah
30:56
i've seen i've seen it in the in
30:58
the bathroom and i know you know that
31:00
there are other trophies here okay in
31:02
the bathroom but you we keep he keeps
31:04
some of his awards uh right in the
31:06
dressing room like at nbc there's a
31:08
little there's i think the hamilton
31:09
grammys on display out there and there's
31:12
another thing in his room you know we
31:14
cherish the experience more than uh the
31:16
trophy
31:17
you know at one point and then i'm gonna
31:19
let y'all jump in i'm just this is
31:21
triggering so much and i got a question
31:22
for uh danger mouse too
31:24
i remember at one point um
31:27
wendy goldstein at mca yeah when you
31:29
guys would sign the mca they were
31:32
approaching us about we because we were
31:34
such big supporters of the roots
31:36
about you know man they need more
31:38
support
31:40
otherwise we're going to have a
31:41
challenge keeping them here this is what
31:43
was told to us by the way i don't know
31:44
if you ever heard this [ __ ] and i'm
31:46
thinking we're thinking keem taking out
31:48
out of our minds like what are you doing
31:49
you're gonna make the biggest mistake
31:51
ever right yeah and now look at y'all
31:56
2022 how surreal is your life right now
31:59
um i mean you know it's more real than
32:01
surreal but i'm just grateful you know
32:03
man
32:04
a lot of people you know
32:06
my contemporaries people from all
32:07
graduating class
32:10
they ain't no longer here so um yeah
32:12
it's a blessing i don't take it for
32:13
granted but that's also why i have that
32:16
mechanism in me to just i gotta keep
32:18
getting it you know what i mean like
32:19
because i know
32:20
you're not gonna always have that window
32:22
the opportunity won't always be there to
32:24
do so many things and be creative in any
32:26
way that you want to be so i just want
32:28
to sort of do it all now you know what i
32:29
mean
32:30
2020 we lost a great but um mf doom
32:33
right and um he's featured on this
32:36
project but danger mouse you and he have
32:39
worked together
32:40
uh known each other i don't know how
32:42
long but you know i've known them since
32:44
they have love x you know what i mean so
32:46
back in the kmd days uh we were speaking
32:48
about that earlier man how did you
32:50
develop a relationship with mf doing um
32:54
i was working on a on an album
32:57
with prince poe from
32:59
organized confusion
33:00
so i was helping him put together an
33:02
album and
33:04
and did a track with him and i just
33:06
really started getting into doom and i
33:08
and so we tried to get doom on it on a
33:10
track
33:11
so i go to a show to meet him to meet up
33:14
in person you know do all the business
33:15
he's very you know
33:17
uh unique and secretive with what he
33:20
does yeah and i didn't really
33:22
know
33:23
how
33:24
rabid his fan base was this was even in
33:26
2000
33:28
maybe three four something like that
33:31
so i went to a show in santa monica i
33:33
think and i went to this little bar it
33:35
was a little show maybe had maybe 200
33:37
people
33:38
and um the people in there just couldn't
33:40
believe that doom was actually going to
33:42
show up i'm thinking you know well it's
33:43
a doom show of course he's going to show
33:45
up but they just couldn't believe it i
33:46
just didn't understand i just hadn't
33:48
seen a hip-hop show where it was that
33:49
much of a thing so i was talking to this
33:51
guy at the bar
33:53
about it and he was you know i was
33:54
asking him a little bit more because i
33:55
didn't i was there by myself just to
33:57
meet him to try to get him to get on a
33:58
track wow and um we were talking this
34:01
guy at the bar were talking a little bit
34:02
about it
34:03
and then um
34:05
i watch the show
34:06
he just gets up there with a cd player
34:08
you know just like hell boy here we go
34:11
hits the button and just starts rapping
34:12
and then you know every word and i'm
34:14
like how do they know every what's going
34:16
on here so as soon as the show was over
34:18
with i you know i'm trying to get
34:20
backstage like everybody's trying to get
34:22
back i'm like yeah but i'm good i i he's
34:24
expecting me and it's like yeah yeah
34:26
yeah right
34:27
so um
34:28
he wasn't back there
34:30
and i wound up having to chase him
34:33
you know he was in this place that place
34:34
i wound up at a hotel room
34:36
and and with some big big big guy like
34:38
you know blocking the door for me to go
34:40
in as soon as i go in i see him he
34:42
doesn't have the mask on i'm like that's
34:44
the guy i was talking to at the bar wow
34:52
yeah and you told that story impeccably
34:54
i didn't see that coming no i didn't
34:56
know i didn't either
34:58
and i was like wow wow he just happened
35:00
to be at the
35:01
glasses on he was just there and nobody
35:03
there all these people were flipping out
35:04
and he was just there getting a drink
35:06
before because they didn't have the i
35:08
think the thing he wanted to drink they
35:09
didn't have it on the upstairs so he's
35:10
i'll go get it
35:12
and they worried about him showing up
35:13
and he at the bar getting toasted with
35:15
danger mouse that was my introduction to
35:18
doom and and it got much much more
35:20
complicated after that but
35:22
he's a you know with well no longer
35:24
living but legend you know
35:27
so so yeah we worked on stuff and the
35:28
thing was is that his uh he moved to
35:30
atlanta and my parents and family still
35:32
in atlanta so every time i would visit i
35:33
would go hang out with him and then that
35:35
turned into us doing this project
35:37
together how do we doing danger doing
35:39
together that's how y'all came and did
35:41
that project yeah yeah how did how are
35:43
these two both dope-ass mcs yeah but how
35:46
are they how is how were they different
35:49
for you to work with as a producer what
35:51
was and similarities perhaps
35:54
it was very different
35:56
it just was such a different time i mean
35:59
the process was still me making a bunch
36:01
of beats and trying to get them to use
36:03
use them you know that kind of thing
36:06
people tell you no that's the that's the
36:08
well it's
36:09
a lot of times i have something where
36:11
i'm like it's not so obvious you've said
36:13
that before it's not so obvious right
36:14
here i'm like no no no it could be you
36:16
know that kind of thing and uh
36:19
and so that's always what i was trying
36:20
to do i think what it is i think when
36:22
you hear a sample or you hear like you
36:24
know the inkling of a song in your mind
36:27
you're able to you know to dress like to
36:29
take it too closer to what it's gonna
36:31
sound like when it's completed like he
36:33
hears it already done you know but then
36:35
i hear it and i'm like you know i just
36:37
gotta you know dig deeper to sort of
36:39
wrap my head around i remember working
36:40
on this project and thinking at one
36:42
point like when when when look do he do
36:44
like the danger mouse [ __ ] like what is
36:46
that
36:48
when does that mouse magic gonna happen
36:50
the magic happens it just you know it
36:52
just happens you know at a natural sort
36:54
of organic you know evolutionary pace
36:57
yeah you know what i mean i love it man
36:59
uh danger mouse is here black thought is
37:01
here cheat codes is the name of the
37:02
album i want to play the song belize
37:05
yeah featuring mf doom what can you tell
37:07
us about that song tariq before we go
37:09
into it um i mean you know i feel like
37:12
this is uh
37:13
we we worked on this record um you know
37:16
and tried believe specifically a couple
37:18
different ways
37:19
and i think this is uh the best
37:21
configuration and i think this is um
37:24
it's just a dope way to you know to pay
37:25
homage and just sort of honor you know
37:27
doom's legacy
37:29
um you know in in in the right way uh
37:31
you know we jumped on a couple of
37:32
records uh but i think this is most
37:34
representative of uh you know of us at
37:37
our collaborative best
37:40
888-742-3345 here's belize call if you
37:42
have any questions yes brand new you
37:44
ain't heard that one off the cheat codes
37:46
project
37:48
south friday man
37:50
august 12th pick it up it's ready
37:53
tomorrow it's ready for you right now we
37:55
got somebody on the line right now 888
37:57
742-3345
37:59
uh sway in the morning heather b tracy g
38:01
rise and shine who we got on the line
38:03
you there
38:05
yes sir how y'all doing okay how are you
38:07
good
38:09
anthony how you doing
38:11
i'm good
38:12
hi
38:13
you got a question that
38:15
yeah um before i get to my question
38:17
black thought i wanted to say man you're
38:19
in my top 10 rappers of all time dog
38:21
like
38:22
your cadence your flow your bars is top
38:24
level
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thanks man where do i place
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[Laughter]
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i just got a list of 10 nasty rappers in
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my opinion that really just touched me
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okay oh nice i like that nice nice yeah
38:49
very sweet like
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that's me i do that same thing because
38:52
they switch up sometimes you know you go
38:55
right back look at listen to an old you
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know roots album and go nah but you know
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stop
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my question is um what was your writing
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process during the making of yaya with
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eminem q-tip and royce oh man you know
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the the yaya like right never the eminem
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verse
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my process was um
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you know i really corresponded mostly
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with royce on that like royce like is
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the reason that i wound up on that
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record um you know he's
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obviously super close with eminem but he
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and i uh are pretty close you know what
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i mean and um just in our rapport
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in sending records back and forth like
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this is what i'm working on what are you
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working on he told me that he was
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working on the eminem album and um
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you know i mean i think he just like
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casually brought it up like would you
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want to jump on a joint he's a huge fan
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i know eminem is a fan was a fan because
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we've done some performances together
39:53
but um never a record so um yeah he sent
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me the joint and i mean to be a thousand
39:59
percent with you it wasn't the easiest
40:01
beat for me to rap too it didn't like
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you know some some joints i feel like
40:05
are rhyme friendly um like most of the
40:07
songs on this danger mouse project i
40:08
feel like they almost write themselves
40:10
if i sit and listen to it long enough
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and that uh eminem song wasn't that way
40:14
it wasn't like that it was uh more of a
40:16
joint that i had to i mean it was a
40:17
challenge you know i uh
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you know if you get on the record with
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eminem it's a battle so you you
40:23
essentially battling eminem whether you
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like it or not
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so that's the way i looked at it and i
40:27
had to approach it like you know like i
40:29
was battling so but it was it wasn't
40:31
like i was you know hitting him
40:34
to see what he thought of the verse it
40:35
was like me and uh me and royce and i
40:37
sent them like one version and it was
40:40
cool it was dope you know perfect uh you
40:42
know by by most people's standards and
40:44
then i sent them another version where i
40:46
sort of danger monster like i had to go
40:48
and just tweak a couple syllables to
40:50
take a breath here instead of there and
40:52
then i did it a funny story about that
40:55
record is i went to q-tip's house we
40:57
were working on music during that same
40:59
time and just in showing each other
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stuff uh he was like yeah show you this
41:03
record let's work it all with the
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m and he you put the joint on and and it
41:09
was yaya and i was like oh [ __ ] like in
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my mind the whole time i've been writing
41:13
one of the things that i've taken issue
41:15
with i was like they got this fake ass
41:17
q-tip on here they could have just got
41:18
youtube to do the court because it was a
41:20
fact it was like it was an effect on it
41:24
so i was like yeah i said man it would
41:25
have been tough if they didn't just had
41:26
real tip do it
41:28
he didn't even need to know i was on the
41:29
record he's showing me the joint like
41:30
yeah you ain't up on this and then i
41:32
played him my verse and he was like oh
41:33
[ __ ]
41:35
it was funny funny moments but shout out
41:37
to you
41:38
hey hey thanks for your call man
41:41
you're a super citizen in the morning
41:43
baby tracy take us out well i've been
41:46
curious this entire time because you
41:47
guys have mentioned how you're both
41:49
pretty self-critical and want to get
41:51
everything as perfect as possible does
41:53
that make it
41:55
easy to listen to your music from the
41:57
past like do you start because you have
41:59
a new mind now or are you able to let it
42:01
go
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um
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just speaking for myself i
42:05
let it go right away okay you know um
42:09
there's almost like i almost don't even
42:12
i never want to hear a song again that
42:14
you know that i put out once i'm done
42:16
with the process i mean at least that's
42:18
the way it is for me while i'm still
42:20
making songs
42:21
you know um i think over time we become
42:24
more efficient and more you know
42:26
effective and more productive and i
42:28
think i've grown to like my music more
42:31
so i'm more likely to you know reflect
42:33
back on the stuff that i'm making in
42:35
recent years and rock with it but
42:37
um when i listen to you know like old
42:39
rude stuff and you know some
42:41
music that i may have written before my
42:42
voice changed and you know like i was
42:44
there for all intents and purposes i
42:46
tell people i was a child star because
42:47
we signed a record deal i was like 18
42:49
19. oh wow you know so um you know i
42:52
look at my son who's 22 now we're like
42:54
you know i mean like
42:56
right yeah straight up uh
42:58
so yeah i i think that's that's that's
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what it is with me how about you bro
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i think it's easier for me because i'm
43:04
not hearing my voice yeah yeah yeah so
43:06
i'm a fan of the people i work with so
43:08
sometimes i don't you know i don't
43:10
remember it even being made so much you
43:13
know the the the details of it enough to
43:15
critique it i just kind of listen
43:16
sometimes but not so much purposely but
43:18
if i hear it here or there yeah it
43:20
doesn't bother me now and you haven't
43:22
radio producers i know uh when they
43:24
listen to their old stuff they judge you
43:26
know like it's it's the drums the drums
43:28
is the voice for them you know i'm
43:30
saying it's like ah yeah i do critique
43:32
though
43:36
if you if you had a top five um producer
43:39
drums list who would be on it who got
43:41
the best drums to you eq'd drums um
43:45
i'd say the beat miners okay
43:48
prince paul
43:50
okay i'm just going to my influences
43:51
really okay that's why
43:53
um
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[Music]
43:55
you know who has great sounding drums
43:56
too is that kevin from tame impala oh
43:59
yeah
44:00
sounds great yeah
44:01
um
44:03
i mean
44:04
premiere there you go
44:18
anybody else i mean
44:20
you know i i i really love json okay
44:24
yeah i don't know if anybody knows him
44:26
but i'm not i'm not familiar
44:27
[Music]
44:29
yeah so yeah i mean he he was a rapper
44:31
and producer for a long time he just
44:32
plays drums now oh wow my mirror knows
44:36
i mean he's one of the best drummers in
44:37
the world now he went from
44:39
from uh
44:40
rapping and doing his own projects uh
44:42
independent hip-hop stuff just kind of
44:44
you know for years and years and then
44:46
left and then decided
44:48
to try something new and picked up drums
44:50
and now he's one of the best drummers
44:51
now he's great he's
44:53
yeah
44:54
legit stuff so i sampled some of the
44:56
samples json yeah i sampled some of this
44:58
stuff not on this record but on other
44:59
you know you know you know
45:01
i i hadn't known who jason was yeah
45:04
until a couple weeks ago i just met him
45:06
in seattle okay yeah i just did a gig
45:08
out there and um you know i met him and
45:10
just
45:11
really i saw how much props
45:14
quest was giving him when i was like
45:15
he was like no like this like yo
45:18
you know what i mean like he was like
45:20
dylan level he prays you know what i
45:22
mean so i got to chop it up with him i
45:24
actually played some of the music i
45:25
played this album for him
45:27
oh wow just like maybe two weeks ago wow
45:29
danger mouse black dog give him a round
45:32
of applause citizens i hope you all
45:33
enjoyed this as much as we did i hope
45:35
you enjoyed it as much as we did chicos
45:38
this is a album on wings certain albums
45:41
i give them wings oh wow this is one
45:43
that's on wings and you will thoroughly
45:45
enjoy it i've had a chance to sit
45:47
through it i'm very privileged uh
45:49
heather i get to get music early you
45:51
know they i got it the music 15 minutes
45:54
before the interview
45:59
i still got a chance to hear some songs
46:01
um one of the songs i'm going to close
46:03
with is violas and lupitas
46:06
okay and this is an amazing song i want
46:09
to thank those tuned in today thank you
46:11
for tuning in doing good news thursday
46:13
we'll be back tomorrow
46:14
and um uh how the hell can they reach
46:16
you with the happy hour whb tracy
46:19
twitter instagram always citizens it's
46:22
tracy g i-t-s-t-r-a-c-y-g
46:25
you don't need that end beat right there
46:26
ton i appreciate you though this is
46:28
gonna be different i don't want no i
46:29
want nothing to interfere with this
46:30
intro all right uh and then danger mouse
46:33
i want to say um can i call you brian is
46:36
it
46:37
i think that's good okay man all right
46:39
man i'm joking but you know but i want
46:41
to say i tru tremendously i'm humbled by
46:43
your presence here and your contribution
46:46
to music culture
46:47
and what you've been able to do with
46:49
some of my favorite artists and then
46:51
show them in a whole nother light and
46:52
help them reach a whole nother space for
46:54
themselves as well as you and so you've
46:57
been very consistent and um i i just
46:59
want to let you know i appreciate you oh
47:01
thank you absolutely brother
47:02
absolutely and then
47:04
i can't say it enough let's hang out
47:06
[ __ ] we ain't got to say nothing all
47:07
right
47:11
all right and i hey black thought man uh
47:14
tariq man i i just you amazing man you
47:16
my brother i don't even sometimes when
47:18
we're together i don't even know what to
47:19
say to you sometimes man because it's
47:20
all love the history runs so deep and um
47:23
yeah congratulations man you
47:26
man the way you've been continuing on
47:28
and you just consistently ascends we
47:30
were all inspired by it yeah yeah all
47:32
right we're all inspired by it so thank
47:34
you and i can't wait to see y'all y'all
47:36
touring
47:37
no great okay good so i won't see it uh
47:41
so tell me about three you'll see you
47:42
catch me at a theater near you yeah you
47:44
just want to be cheat codes okay yeah
47:46
okay cool all right watch the music
47:48
videos
47:49
i'm with that uh violas and lupitas tell
47:52
me about this song before we go into it
47:54
you know this song um it's one of those
47:57
joints where
47:58
i think it's about like what draws
48:00
people in like what i'm most proud of
48:01
about it just the juxtaposition you know
48:04
of two sort of polar opposites and the
48:07
texture the quality of my of my vocal
48:09
and just the lush sort of background
48:11
like the sample um that the beat was was
48:14
made from
48:16
so yeah uh you know i tried to paint
48:18
like a visual picture and you know be
48:21
super descriptive and in my storytelling
48:23
and one of the you know reference that
48:25
references that i make is you know how
48:27
my black skin is you know comparable to
48:30
viola davis or peters and um and that
48:32
that became the name of the song i love
48:34
it man we're going to close with this uh
48:36
song right now you guys stay on the
48:38
right side of positivity have an amazing
48:41
day thank you for joining us for good
48:43
news thursday and danger mouse and black
48:45
thought i hope you enjoyed it as much as
48:47
we did we'll be back tomorrow god
48:49
willing and here it is
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