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Kirk Franklin Talks New Podcast ‘Good Words with Kirk Franklin’ and Accountability For Black People
Feb 16, 2021
Sixteen-time GRAMMY-winning artist, songwriter and producer Kirk Franklin and Sony Music, announced the launch of “Good Words with Kirk Franklin,” a new podcast series that welcomes people from every cross-section of life who seek inspiration and empowerment. He called in to Sway In The Morning to talk about what to expect.
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Kirk Franklin Talks New Podcast ‘Good Words with Kirk Franklin’ and Accountability For Black People
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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what's good beautiful people
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after bringing you songs like stomp
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revolution i smile
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love theory man i want to bring you
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something really special from my heart
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it's called good words with kirk
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franklin and their conversations that
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will lift you
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up and inspire you outsider weirdo
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misfit
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it's only a misfit which is that word
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misfit
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until you find your purpose then it is
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like the perfect fit you'll hear about
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the comebacks the stories of growth
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and the stories of triumph it's about
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healing through revealing
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that's the voice of our good friend 16
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time grammy winning choir director
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gospel musician singer songwriter and
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author celebrating his debut
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good words with kirk franklin available
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now on all major podcast platforms
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the one and only kirk franklin praise
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channel was
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channel 64 on siriusxm his first guest
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will be the legendary pharrell
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give it up for our brother the one and
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only kirk franklin kirk franklin
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family family family emily
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where you been family i'm so glad to be
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back family
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man i've been good man very thankful
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very grateful man just excited to have
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opportunities
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to just continue man to just inspire
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people man to give people
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some good words you know because there's
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so many bad words lately you know
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so much negativity that i'm just
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thankful to just be part of the role
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like what you guys do
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you know and just just every opportunity
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to speak to coaches something that will
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give them
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an opportunity to believe that it won't
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always be like this
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so that's what i'm grateful to do power
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in words there are power
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in words some folks i always believe
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that there are power in words i i used
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to give an administration i could say
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one word two different ways and it
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affects you two different ways
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let me ask you this for a person like me
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who
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us actually who who were in rap we're in
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a rap game and a lot of songs
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um don't always have positive words in
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them
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and you know these songs tend to repeat
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over and over and again and the
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messaging
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tends to repeat over and over again and
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permeate into our
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system into our our consciousness you
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know how do we balance that
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and can you speak to that when it comes
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to music how it could be utilized in a
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powerful way positive or the
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other effects that it can have depending
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on the content
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first of all let me just commend you for
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being somebody
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that is in the the
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the just right in the lexicon of
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of of popular culture
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being willing to ask such a vulnerable
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question
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that at times can make you susceptible
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to critique
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uh from our own people so let me just
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celebrate you for that because
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that takes a lot of balls brother um let
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me say to you
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that some of this i can be candid and
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say that the cat's already out the bag
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and you know and i think we have to be
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very honest about that that that
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that there's been uh generations
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of of negative words or let me should i
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say negative words
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negative experiences that have been
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uh systemic they've been socioeconomic
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that have caused a lot of uh ambassadors
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with the microphone to
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to communicate their anger their
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frustration their pain
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so uh the first thing that i don't want
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to do is to judge
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a lot of the oracles that are
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communicating their own life experiences
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because
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a lot of these young men and women their
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life experiences have
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been a portrait of the negativity that
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they are communicating on
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and that's the real truth you know you
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know there's no cap in that right there
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yeah that's fair but but at the same
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time
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we need to lovingly
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lead our village and i think that a lot
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of times we
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the public conversation must start with
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the private
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loving and and the private dialogue
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that needs to happen when the cameras
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and the microphones are off if you know
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what i'm saying it it
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it's it's going to take the elders of
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the village
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to be able to get to the young
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young young legends young young
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minstrels while they have the
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opportunity to be
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molded to be able to give them the
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opportunity to see the power
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of their words because a lot of times we
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want to chastise
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our young men and women publicly and we
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all know that that
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that doesn't lead to the result of
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healing that that doesn't really to
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dissolve of change that leads to resolve
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of rebellion
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because uh rules without relationship
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leads to rebellion so if we don't have
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relationship
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meaning the fathers the uncles the uh
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paw paws
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the the the the pastors the
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uh uh uh the young leaders in the
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community
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then they don't understand the power of
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the positive and the negative words that
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they speak
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so i think that that that it starts at
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the root level
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of loving them and showing them the
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repercussions
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of what powerful words negative words
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can do
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to the entire race kirk franklin is here
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ladies and gentlemen i like it i like
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those good words
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you just gave us right there i see how
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this podcast is working
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i see how it works you know first of all
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i commend you as i commend you for
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asking that question brother that
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that that is the question and that's
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powerful for you to be in the position
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that you're in sway
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and to ask that question because a lot
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of times
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the conversation of self-responsibility
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in the black community is one that we
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sometimes run from we we we are quick to
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uh charge everything in the game to
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systemic issues
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but we don't talk about that the lack of
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daddies
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the lack of uh of uh pastors who are not
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just you know riding around in the
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biggest whip
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but to be involved in the community to
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love these kids
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all of the uh you know if you are if
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you're a black police officer
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you know and you can love these kids and
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to be able to talk to these kids instead
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of beating these kids
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that that that that we don't talk a lot
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about black responsibility and i commend
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you this morning for doing that
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thank you kirk franklin uh you know we
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all trying to figure it out man
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uh that's what it is and this is
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conflict that i've dealt with for years
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and
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and that's why i asked you know um have
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enough humility to ask about it
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good words with kirk franklin available
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now all major podcast platforms h
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bizzle you want to jump in there yep yep
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yep kirk thank you all
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as always for joining us swai and i uh
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had a conversation last week right
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before the super bowl
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and we were blessed to talk to some hall
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of famers when it when it comes to
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to the sport of football we spoke to
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russell wilson who's been open
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about his faith in football we spoke to
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uh tim brown
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who's been open about his faith and i
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know you being from texas
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i we study sports carefully and watch um
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desean watson has been in the news a lot
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wanting to leave the texans um people
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have
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for all the people that love him for all
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the work that he's been doing off the
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field as well
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um he's been getting some criticism you
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know just that he should be grateful for
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the contract and she should be
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happy to be playing sports if an athlete
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of that status reached out to you in
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terms of
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you know advice and what should he do
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and staying in the situation that he's
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necessarily
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not comfortable with uh what would you
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say to somebody like him
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well first of all i must be honest with
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you that that
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my sports iq is very low it's i don't
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know a lot about sports i can be candid
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i'm the dude that watches
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the championships i'm the guy that
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watches
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that you know yeah you know and i'm
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ashamed to see it but i've gotta you
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know keep it a buck with you you know
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you know
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i appreciate it really quickly yeah
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deshawn watson is the quarterback of the
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texans he's the quarterback
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no no no yeah yeah yeah if i know him
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just because he's an african-american
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quarterback so that right there in
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itself caught my attention you know
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gotcha uh yeah you know you know just to
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be you know just
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just to be a hundred with you it's i
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think that i would say
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is that the biggest thing is that none
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of us realize the weight
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that that is on people that have the
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have the spotlight on them and and and
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their choices and their decisions
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have to be choices and decisions that
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best benefit them
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and and a lot of times we do the
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sideline coaching without knowing all
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the details uh
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off the field we don't know we don't
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know everybody's entire story
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and so a lot of times this this lack of
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empathy that i'm saying now you know
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what's what's
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what's very disappointing is that the
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last uh 10
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10 11 months that we've gone through as
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a society you would have thought that
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there would be
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uh and a spring of compassion
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and empathy that you would see more in
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society and i think it just breaks my
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heart that we don't
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we lack a level of patience with our
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species
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and it is amazing to me how impatient we
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are with one another
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but we want people to give us all the
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grace in the world
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when we drop the ball and i just think
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that we should allow people
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to walk out man do you know how
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difficult life is
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in itself can you imagine what it is
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when you have millions of people looking
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at you judging every decision you make
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think about i mean it's hard for the guy
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who just has a nine to five job to try
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to figure out life
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man we should be rallying man you know
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y'all gonna make a dog cry this morning
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i ain't gonna cry y'all
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no man dude do you know that some some
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american right now
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for dinner has had to drink hot dog
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water
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you know what i'm saying like like like
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like there's some people that are eating
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they are taking the mold and scraping it
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off bread right now to get ready for
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lunch
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and we got the and and we got the real
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estate
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to to argue about if somebody should be
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uh doing this with their country doing
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man
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let these people let a life let people
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live
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let people feel god life but we need to
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be praying for people
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more than we are holding up critique
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cards about what people do in their
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individual life because
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now more than ever we need to be loving
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people because if not
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we're going to be getting more suicide
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calls we're going to get more people
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on drugs and alcohol because life right
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now
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is kicking people in their ass
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that's right reverend bishop kirk
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franklin said ass
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facts oh you said balls earlier in the
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conversation
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you were speaking my language exactly it
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was forbidden words for you
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this morning
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what would you say to um former
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pastor of you know celebrity favorite
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mega church hill song
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carl lentz that cheating scandal that
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just
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blew up his life just had people
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feasting on his humiliation what would
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you say
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to him and what would you say to
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people who feel like they need to hold
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their pastors at a high standard
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and who are deeply disappointed by these
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actions
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how does empathy play into that
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situation
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first of all i would say that carl lynch
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is a great man he's a great man he's a
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human
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he's a great man carl has done a lot for
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the
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uh for the social injustice movement
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he's spoken out loudly about
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about issues that have affected black
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and brown people and
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and he received criticism many times by
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doing that i know him
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he's a is i don't know like he's the
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homie but i do know him
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and i do know that he's a good guy and i
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do know this
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he is a human man that has made a
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mistake he's a human man
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that has made a mistake and only by the
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grace of god
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go i it is only by the grace what has
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happened to carl
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could have happened to me it could have
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happened in td jakes it can happen
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to anyone because we're all sinners
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saved by grace
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and i think that the biggest problem is
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is that because
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people don't want to get close to god
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themselves
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they will they will do it vicariously
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through their pastor and so they end up
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making the pastor
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god himself because sometimes they're
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too lazy
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to chop it up with god on their own and
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so what they do
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is they use the the closest dude
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like like like like like sway y'all have
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no idea like when people come to me and
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sometimes say yo kirk pray for me
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kirk kirk is i know god hear your
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prayers i say stop that stop that
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god ain't got no vip section god ain't
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got no private line
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that that that that when you call his
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name
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his ears pop up the same way if i call
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his name
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do not think that i got some holy hook
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up with god
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that is greater than yours and so i
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think it's very important
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for spiritual leaders to remind them
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that they are just like the people see
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this elitism
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that sometimes christians or christian
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leaders have had within society
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we talk to people like we're the doctors
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and they're the patients
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so it's like we talk down at them like
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they need the medicine we got
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and for kirk my posture is i'm gonna
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always talk to you like i'm at the i'm
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in the hospital bed next to you
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that i'm sick just like you and oh and
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there's only one person that's got the
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medicine
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and that's god himself kirk franklin uh
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ladies and gentlemen the new podcast
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is good words with kirk franklin it's
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available on all major platforms real
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quick i know you got a goal but dietrich
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in sacramento said he grew up with
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dietrich
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what's up griffin
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[Applause]
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yeah what's up what's up kurt this is
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dedrick man
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what's up with your boy he said where
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you from that drink
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yeah this is from fort worth texas
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what high school did you go to man i
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went to trimble tech we
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we went to church together that car
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wrench baptist church riverside middle
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come on man
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[Laughter]
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hey hey swag yeah good morning man i
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think y'all hey don't let kirk don't let
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kirk off easy man kirk was an athlete
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man don't let him
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don't let him fool y'all now oh he's
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trying to tell me he don't okay
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okay kirk wasn't
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hey kirk kirk was a tailback man he
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catch that he catch that 4812 subman to
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take it to the house don't let him fool
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you now oh come on kirk why you trying
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to play us out man
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hold on hold on hold on hold on but you
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got to give him the old story big pimple
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that was in the 8th grade
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hey hey but hey he rendered he ran the
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first leg on the on the
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uh the 440 relay too don't let him don't
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let him i did though
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yeah i did that was in the eighth grade
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hey
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those glory days of but what happened
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was in high school everybody started
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getting taller
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and i just do the bad games i mean
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i'm glad we love we love you bro man
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we love what you're doing man we thank
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you man hey we all we all
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you know man we love you bro we i was
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just at daryl man's church this past
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sunday
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i was just in o'bler oh man
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wow man i'm humble man i'm i'm like mad
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humble man so great to hear your voice
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king
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wow hey daddrick you're a citizen i'm
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glad we made that way in the morning
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that's
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beautiful that's beautiful wow man thank
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you all for doing that man wow
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every time you call man it's special man
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tell the family we love them thank you
16:21
for calling in
16:22
kirk franklin y'all check out his new
16:23
podcast good words with curtis
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thank y'all everywhere brother be safe
16:28
kirk
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all right thank you man thank you
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you
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