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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
2:39 - Melina Abdullah on Black Lives Matter Origins
6:49 - Combatting Propaganda Techniques
10:22 - Gumbo's New Album & Chuck D Collaboration
12:36 - Melina Abdullah on BLM Grassroots Significance
16:42 - Gumbo Performs “All True”
21:00 - Closing
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Who that? That sound like a voice of
0:03
power.
0:05
Ladies and gentlemen, I can't tell you
0:07
how I please I am every single time I
0:09
get a chance to sit with my brother and
0:11
just hold court.
0:12
Yeah. Hold conversation. We have to
0:15
recognize this for what it is. We just
0:17
catch up better than Heinz. That's all
0:18
we
0:19
That's that's all we do, man. We catch
0:20
up better than Heinz, man. Bars, I like
0:22
that, Chuck. Yo, throw a beat on. IC
0:24
Ice, throw a beat on.
0:25
Yo, they come they they come slower but
0:27
sure shot, you know, post-60, man.
0:29
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like
0:31
I'm here with sister Melina, you know
0:32
what I'm saying? And and this is this is
0:35
what it's all about because when we say
0:38
black lives matter, you got to cover the
0:39
spectrum from zero to 100.
0:41
Mhm. And I know going around now
0:44
everybody is funny. It's not really the
0:46
sad funny.
0:47
Yeah. When people start paying attention
0:49
to like saying what matters but within
0:51
their context.
0:53
Mhm. Give me an example. Example?
0:55
Yeah. Does somebody 40 really give a
0:57
damn about somebody under 40 if it ain't
0:59
their kids?
1:01
Good point.
1:02
care give a [Â __Â ] damn about somebody
1:04
over 70 if it ain't their people?
1:06
Mhm. All you got to do is look about
1:08
look at the general health of black
1:10
lives past 60.
1:12
Yeah.
1:13
And yo, you could shake your head and
1:16
walk away. But if you open your eyes and
1:18
really take note Mhm. especially past 40
1:21
Yeah.
1:22
you you come up with a consensus that
1:24
says, you know, like
1:26
damn, I got to do something and just not
1:28
say something. So, you know, like
1:30
whenever you hear like somebody talking
1:32
to a group of people, the biggest
1:34
question is like well, who are you
1:36
talking to? Mhm. You talking to you
1:39
based on your personal needs or the
1:41
lives around you?
1:43
And so, I mean, you know, being like 60
1:46
in my 64th year, right?
1:48
You know, even we go further, one thing
1:50
I noticed I noticed is some [Â __Â ]
1:52
ageism as hell out there. Ageism is is
1:55
real [Â __Â ] thing out there. Not
1:57
so towards me, but like my peers and
2:00
people like in my category is like they
2:03
going down and and and the lifestyle
2:06
that we celebrated, I know this is a
2:08
whole 'nother subject and I'mma shut up.
2:10
But the lifestyle that that that we
2:12
think the music celebrated is [Â __Â ] us
2:15
up.
2:16
Cuz the end the results is right here in
2:18
2024.
2:20
Mentally, physically, spiritually,
2:23
collectively
2:24
and uh and and it it all seems to pour
2:27
out on social media with a sickness. So
2:29
anyway, that's enough for me. No, that's
2:30
never enough. No, you never enough, but
2:33
you know, it ain't just me. So we here
2:34
with with you know, we here with
2:36
movement.
2:37
Professor Melina Abdullah is here from
2:39
Black Lives Matter Grassroots here in
2:42
LA.
2:43
And I want to welcome her to this show.
2:45
This sister This sister Tracy G, we both
2:49
grew up in the same neighborhood. We
2:51
grew up knowing the same people.
2:54
But we never met in person. I don't
2:56
think we did. But you know, I was in the
2:58
streets a lot. We might HAVE MET. WE
3:00
MIGHT HAVE MET. WE MIGHT HAVE MET IN
3:01
PASSING. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. We didn't
3:03
know each other. But but we knew each
3:05
other. We knew each other. Because we
3:07
know each other now. So when I walk in
3:10
the room and you told me you dropped
3:12
them seeds where you was from, Funkytown
3:14
Chuck. I don't know if you know Chuck
3:15
know about Funkytown. He been in and out
3:17
Oakland, California. I don't At at
3:20
25, 30, 40 miles per hour.
3:25
Listen. I don't drove every road and
3:27
been in every hood in this country. Yes.
3:29
And and and I've been fortunate to have
3:31
a car that never been revoked. Wow. And
3:34
a lot of times when you go to places,
3:36
you try to give them a little
3:37
perspective like there's other places
3:39
that's feeling it other than just you.
3:41
But of course you going to speak out
3:42
what hit you. You know, like they they
3:44
used to say throw you know
3:46
a a rock at a pack and the one that
3:48
howls the one that's hit.
3:50
But what we were able to do and and and
3:52
in this is the thing is like, you know,
3:54
Sister Melina Cole, you know, boom, I'm
3:56
there. I I
3:57
I move to movements.
3:59
You know, we come out of a music that
4:00
had movement. You know, we danced to it.
4:03
We danced and skated, right? But, we
4:04
also stood. Yes, that's true. And and
4:07
and we held conversation. And I I want
4:10
to talk about this movement, how you the
4:12
two of you got together, and then we
4:13
also have the group Gumbo here from LA.
4:16
They've been on the show before by way
4:18
of Adrian Miller. But, before we do
4:20
that, Professor Melina, B BLM
4:23
Grassroots, it's important that we say
4:25
grassroots.
4:26
That's right. Why is that?
4:28
Well, we know So, I was part of the
4:30
birth of Black Lives Matter. July 13th,
4:33
2013, many of us just rose up and
4:35
intuitively stood in the name of Trayvon
4:38
Martin, right? Said we have to get
4:40
justice for our people. We remember then
4:42
President Barack Obama said, "If I had a
4:44
son, he'd look like Trayvon." Well, I
4:47
have a son, and he actually looks like
4:49
Trayvon, right? Same shiny brown skin,
4:52
dancing eyes, and I saw my son's face in
4:56
Trayvon's face. And so,
4:58
a bunch of us, many of us who were
5:00
mamas, right? Said, "We can't let them
5:02
steal our child, and it goes
5:05
unanswered." And so, we birthed Black
5:07
Lives Matter intuitively. These were
5:09
just regular people in the streets. And
5:12
over the course of the last 10 years,
5:14
especially in 2020, when resources
5:17
finally started pouring into the
5:19
movement, there was a fight for those
5:21
resources, and there's always been, as
5:23
we study history, there's always been an
5:25
effort by the right and by white
5:28
supremacy to derail movements that are
5:31
real movements that seek to really
5:33
liberate and empower black people. And
5:36
so, what starts to happen is other
5:39
interests get involved, and ultimately,
5:43
what we have is the theft of Black Lives
5:46
Matter, our good name,
5:47
Yeah. our resources and our platforms
5:50
from the people who birthed, built, and
5:52
fueled the movement. So, Black Lives
5:54
Matter grassroots is saying, "We're not
5:56
giving it to you.
5:56
Mhm. There's still boots on the ground.
5:59
They're still doing work. If we think
6:00
about what just happened last week in
6:02
Mississippi Mhm. with the goon squad,
6:05
Yeah. um the the white cops who've been
6:07
torturing black people for decades being
6:10
convicted and sentenced from anywhere
6:13
between 10 and 40 years per cop, and
6:15
that's just the federal charges, right?
6:18
That didn't just happen. That was the
6:20
work of Black Lives Matter Mississippi.
6:22
Mhm.
6:22
And people who are on the ground not for
6:24
a check, but because our people deserve
6:26
to be free. So, Black Lives Matter
6:28
grassroots um is about making sure that
6:32
we do the work whether we have
6:33
resources, whether we have big
6:35
followings, or not, and the thieves will
6:38
suffer. But, those of us who were meant
6:41
to do this work and who are called by
6:43
ancestors and by our community to do the
6:47
work are going to continue to do the
6:48
work regardless. My mantra is just do
6:50
the work and live righteously.
6:52
Just do the work and live righteously,
6:54
Professor Melina Abdullah. Give her a
6:57
big round of applause. How How do you um
7:00
How do you
7:02
fight against the propaganda that's
7:04
constantly being put out there about the
7:06
Black Lives Matter movement, grassroots
7:09
movement, to to to to discredit it and
7:12
some of the players that's involved?
7:14
Well, so that's the mantra, right? Just
7:16
do the work and live righteously because
7:17
the work will speak for itself, right?
7:20
People will know your character
7:21
themselves, and then we are very
7:23
fortunate and blessed to have people
7:25
like Chuck
7:27
be there and use culture and say, "Look,
7:30
you know, hip-hop was really developed
7:33
and birthed to be a voice for our
7:35
people, to move us forward." And so, for
7:37
him and for artists like Gumbo to come
7:40
and say, "We're going to use culture to
7:42
push the movement forward. We're not
7:44
just saying words to say words. We're
7:47
saying words that have meaning and then
7:48
speak what I love." I'm not an artist,
7:51
right? Nobody ever wants me to be,
7:53
right?
7:54
I beg to differ.
7:56
But what I love is the way in which
7:58
music and we were talking about how your
8:01
music was so influential, is so
8:03
influential, is music and culture has
8:06
ability to speak directly to our souls
8:10
and move us off of the stoops that
8:12
Heather was talking about and say, "You
8:14
know what? We got to get up. We got to
8:16
do work. We got to make sure that we
8:19
move ourselves." And so grateful to have
8:22
cultural workers who are using it for
8:25
the the power of our people. Absolutely,
8:28
man. Big round of applause to get that
8:30
bring
8:31
What's the Bring the Noise app?
8:33
Yeah, it's the cultural app, you know,
8:36
the world's first cultural app. You go
8:38
to Bring the Noise app uh dot com. It's
8:40
a platform in itself. Um
8:42
it's for fams, filmmakers, artists,
8:45
musicians, sports heads, and we keep it
8:47
to the culture. But the the Professor
8:50
Molina, you know, just to build on what
8:52
she was saying, you know, I'm a
8:53
culturalist and I'm a earthacist. I
8:55
don't believe in, you know,
8:58
borders and orders and none of that.
9:00
Although I come out of outside of myself
9:02
and I, you know, you got to be real and
9:04
you got to sound very real to real
9:06
people, but you should point the real
9:08
people doing movement in real things.
9:10
Mhm. And and that's very important. If
9:12
you're in culture, you're artist, you
9:15
feel that, you know,
9:17
I got to do that. No, if you don't got
9:18
to do it, point in the right direction
9:21
of people who are really, you know,
9:23
their boots to the ground and moving on
9:25
movement.
9:26
Mhm. Then you lend yourself to that. I'm
9:29
here also being able to say I'm passing
9:32
the time with Gumbo doing their thing.
9:34
They're in the mix, you know what I'm
9:35
saying? I I'm, you know, I've been to
9:37
116 countries. You know, I I did a
9:40
lecture in Lebanon, you know, what I'm
9:42
saying? And I got a whole bunch of
9:43
people in Lebanon, Beirut looking at me,
9:45
and they got a hip-hop community. You
9:48
better talk something to that audience
9:50
on on not basically what they, you know,
9:53
need to know, but you you got to be able
9:55
to pass the baton cuz they already know
9:57
what they got to deal with.
9:58
Yeah. Yeah.
9:59
You're passing the baton of culture and
10:01
also knowledge and awareness,
10:03
understanding, and all those things cuz
10:05
there's real people doing real things in
10:07
their community, too. And they therefore
10:09
you you forward the bond. But you got to
10:11
know your place or who you are, know who
10:13
you are, know who you are not.
10:15
Mhm. I definitely know who I ain't. I
10:17
know who I am. I know I definitely have
10:19
known for a long time where I am and
10:21
what I'm about to do. Chuck D, all
10:23
right. And you mentioned Gumbo, we got
10:25
them here right now, man. Step up to the
10:26
mic,
10:28
fellas. Peace. All right. Peace. Peace.
10:30
What's up, man? Say your name, man.
10:31
What's the deal? This is Ro from Gumbo.
10:33
What up, Sway?
10:33
Okay, what up? Good to see you, Ro.
10:35
What's up? What's up? My name is Danger
10:36
from Gumbo. Thanks for having us. We
10:37
appreciate it.
10:38
Danger, you know you don't spit bars up
10:40
here before, too. Adrian Miller is here,
10:42
too. What is the you Adrian has told me
10:44
about this this galvanizing of BLM
10:48
grassroots, Chuck D, and Gumbo to come
10:50
together for this initiative. Talk to us
10:52
about that.
10:53
Look, man, this is the first of its
10:55
kind. This is how we do it in the order
10:58
of culture in the order of
11:00
revolutionists everywhere. This is this
11:02
for the artists, you know, Sway. Thank
11:03
you for having us up there. Absolutely.
11:05
I'm introducing this as the artist merch
11:08
initiative. And uh you're always here to
11:11
break it, you and Heather and Tracy G,
11:13
y'all always help us out. Like I said, I
11:15
just want to be a citizen. So, what is
11:17
that? That's an opportunity That That's
11:19
an opportunity for
11:21
the fans. That's an opportunity for the
11:24
community to give back and harbor their
11:26
interest into causes with the artists
11:28
they support and the artists that they
11:30
want to, you know, guide behind. So, for
11:34
me, this was a opportunity to create a
11:36
simple t-shirt
11:38
for Black Lives Matter grassroots and
11:41
bring Gumbo on board and just mesh it
11:43
all together. For me, having someone
11:46
like Chuck and Chuck's reps and the
11:48
whole nine yard of bringing it all full
11:51
circle,
11:52
I don't know that it gets better than
11:53
this. So, this is just pushing the
11:55
directive. Okay, so with this directive,
11:57
and we got a we got listeners all over
12:00
the world. How where do they go? What
12:01
platform do they go to if they want to
12:03
support by, you know, buying a t-shirt,
12:06
but not only that, how to find out more
12:07
information? So, soon come uh xylon.com,
12:13
xylon.com.
12:14
Black Lives Matter grassroots.
12:17
On the socials, Chuck D
12:19
on the socials, Gumbo official. Okay.
12:22
So, they can reach it. It's going to be
12:24
launched on the 5th, but right now, you
12:26
can pre-save links for their stuff as
12:29
much as you can buy t-shirts today. So,
12:31
the links are available everywhere.
12:32
People just dial in and use them. Okay,
12:35
Professor Melina,
12:37
uh in what campuses are do you profess?
12:41
I'm a professor of Pan African Studies
12:44
at Cal State LA's College of Ethnic
12:46
Studies, which is the second College of
12:49
Ethnic Studies in the whole world. So,
12:51
I'm very proud of that. Come on, get a
12:53
round of applause, man. You got to know
12:55
Come on. I would love for you to do
12:58
maybe a
13:00
I'll carve out some time. You could do a
13:02
20-minute lecture hall on live on the
13:04
air.
13:05
Ooh, I'd love that.
13:06
Would you do that? Would you do
13:07
me a topic. Look, that's how I spit
13:09
bars, right?
13:10
topic?
13:10
Give me a topic, you know?
13:11
bring the noise, for sure.
13:12
Yeah. Uh Uh No, NOT NOW. OKAY. OKAY.
13:16
OKAY.
13:17
LOOK, I DON'T FREESTYLE, RIGHT?
13:19
OH, THAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
13:22
PROFESSOR
13:25
I THOUGHT WE HAD A HYENA UP IN HERE.
13:28
OKAY, well we'll we'll talk about it,
13:29
all right? But uh but but for now people
13:32
could go to what platform again if they
13:34
want to find out more about your
13:35
movement.
13:36
BLM Grassroots on all social media. BLM
13:39
Grassroots is the movement on the ground
13:41
for Black Lives Matter. Chuck, we all
13:43
have a responsibility. Do you feel we
13:45
all have a responsibility to do what
13:47
you're doing past that baton? Well, you
13:49
you especially you know like if if you
13:51
of age
13:52
and what's of age, right? Like a lot of
13:54
times people will say, you know, like
13:56
yeah, it's for the for the youth and the
13:57
kids. I mean, how young is young? I look
13:59
at a 18-year-old and say, damn, you
14:01
ain't six, dog.
14:03
You know what I'm saying? Every
14:04
14-year-old want to get older. Yeah. So
14:06
once you say, yeah, you want to get
14:08
older, so you know, this is the burden
14:10
that's going to start, you know,
14:11
flipping on your lap, you know?
14:13
Um
14:14
so how young is young? Young, I mean,
14:16
that's just, you know, it's just it's
14:18
relative and it within context of
14:20
wherever you might be in the situation
14:22
ahead. You want to grow up and age you
14:25
know, you you know, every gift every
14:27
year that you get is a present.
14:29
Yes, it is.
14:29
It's called the present.
14:30
Mhm. So um my conversations, if I'm
14:33
having a conversation with uh the great
14:36
Harry Belafonte, who transitioned last
14:38
year, right?
14:39
power. Yeah. And he's having a
14:41
conversation with me about the
14:42
conversation he had with Paul Robeson,
14:44
right? And these are artists, right?
14:46
Mhm. Culturalists.
14:48
And he's having a conversation with me.
14:50
I got to have the same conversation with
14:52
whoever, you know, uh whatever circle I
14:54
step into. That's our role as a
14:56
culturalist to pass the It's it's really
14:58
our code, you know? And people like uh
15:02
you know,
15:03
social media is everybody got a camera,
15:06
everybody got a mic, and you know, at
15:08
the same time they're talking at the
15:09
same time. Um so but therefore you got
15:12
to take that with a grain of salt. Um
15:15
you have to turn into people who really
15:18
do it professionally like yourself, mhm,
15:20
who been doing it for years.
15:22
Um there's there's a method of getting
15:24
things across. There's a method of
15:26
giving everybody their time to get
15:28
something across. And you got to deal
15:30
with real people that do real things and
15:32
the best professionals at all times,
15:34
especially when it comes down to
15:35
communication to us. Right. And this is
15:37
why, you know, Professor Medina is here.
15:40
She's uh she's a professional of what
15:42
she does.
15:43
She's a master at what she does.
15:45
Mhm. She she's not going to freestyle.
15:47
She's going to plan and map it out.
15:49
She's going to architect She's going to
15:50
strategize. Gumbo has been you know,
15:52
they've been in the workshop for so
15:54
long, you know, and a lot of people when
15:56
people first hear about like, "I didn't
15:57
know about them." This is why discovery
15:59
is a great thing with social media and
16:01
technology. You didn't know? Now you
16:03
know. So here you go. And then you know,
16:05
and and also coming down and and hearing
16:08
Ice T Ice played music.
16:09
Yeah. That, you know, like yeah, it's
16:12
music from years ago, but it speaks to
16:14
the context of now. The bars
16:17
they never decay. They never decay.
16:19
Chuck D is here. I'm going to test that
16:21
theory out about bars never decaying.
16:24
Since we got Gumbo here, we might And
16:26
art never decays, too. I'm going to give
16:27
you I'm going to give you all my art
16:29
books cuz I kind of, you know, like
16:31
reduce my words down to illustrations
16:33
now.
16:34
That's right.
16:34
to just drop drop it off. And I got a
16:36
box set coming for you, too, Heather.
16:38
Okay.
16:38
And uh yeah, so that's that.
16:39
we're going to we're going to pass them
16:41
out. Fellas, step to the mic.
16:43
All right. We got DJ Ice T Ice. I don't
16:45
know what BD going to play. Professor,
16:48
you mind letting them have the use those
16:50
headphones on your ear? All right. Y'all
16:52
can talk.
16:52
Yeah. Okay, there you go. They got They
16:55
got it, Chuck. They got it. They got it.
16:57
Yeah. All right. We going Hey, fellas,
16:58
one verse a piece. Let's go.
17:01
One verse a piece.
17:03
Can you hear that?
17:04
Hey, yeah, I hear that. So you can turn
17:05
it up right there in the headphones
17:07
right there.
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I'm good right here.
17:09
Yeah. Turn him up a little, John, the
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volume on the music. Hey.
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What's up? This is Ralph from Gumbo.
17:16
Brey. Turn that mic down a little.
17:20
Uh-huh.
17:20
Look.
17:21
I get this bag, flip your motor and go
17:23
to jail. White gold grill. Eat what you
17:25
kill. See little boys with all this
17:26
noise, get you vacuumed sealed. It must
17:28
be crack fumes that got you tripping
17:30
like King Kong. Try to show off to the
17:32
man how bad that you can't comb. I see
17:34
your masquerades. Say you running [Â __Â ]
17:36
that away and this away, but couldn't
17:38
give an order at a Chick-fil-A.
17:39
Different days when we was tucking
17:41
slingshots, candy bracelets with the
17:43
ring pops. New flavors now getting
17:44
everything that the Cane's got. Hitting
17:46
sweet spots till our teeth rot and my
17:48
teacher stopped. It's mission
17:49
impossible. Was just ahead of my time,
17:51
cruising and the vision's unstoppable.
17:53
Now y'all Cinderellas calling saying
17:54
that they got that shoe. I shoe them off
17:56
of it after we kick it. Like what you
17:57
about to do? Let's spit them details,
17:59
y'all. You know what we got into. Swae,
18:01
what's up? What's up? What's up? What's
18:03
up, man?
18:03
Hey, listen. Yeah. Yeah.
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By by each of us in the prophesies, I'll
18:07
increase my profit size. You'll be
18:09
flipping words like they birds and get
18:10
them ostracized. Despite of being
18:12
ostracized, don't compromise. I walk it
18:13
bright. This is the algorithm listed I'm
18:15
supposed to die before I'm 25.
18:18
But if it's not a law, it's not a loss.
18:20
And a lesson is not a loss not at all.
18:21
Walk it off, right?
18:23
And if you get involved, you evolve.
18:25
Growing pains, but on the other side is
18:26
gain. The show called life. Drive-by 17,
18:30
I got hit up. Started coming out my
18:32
shell, tore this [Â __Â ] up. Hell Roman, my
18:34
known aroma was having scent. But now
18:36
y'all marked from the beast. Now y'all
18:38
all getting chipped. No more waiting in
18:39
the water. Now y'all all getting rinsed.
18:41
Says our boss you on my neck, I gave a
18:43
damn about y'all repent.
18:44
Pardon? Still ain't said [Â __Â ] But the
18:46
real interest is, you never did what you
18:48
said. I never said what I did now. Look,
18:51
we made it out then made it in. Cats who
18:53
had to go and slide, it was that or go
18:55
get slid. New leaf.
18:57
Okay, listen, listen. Pardon me for this
18:58
musical concussion.
19:00
We in the kitchen and Gumbo cooking. My
19:03
[Â __Â ] is seasoned, no mic with waving.
19:06
Your [Â __Â ] be tasting like white people
19:08
made it. It's danger, danger, greatest
19:10
entertainer since the Doug E. Fresh and
19:12
Slick Rick was banging. Don't be at the
19:15
club unless the club is paying. I be in
19:17
the mountains, [Â __Â ] training,
19:19
training. Listen, I'm not a rapper, I'm
19:21
the rapper. Out of any freaking he or
19:24
she rapper. Yo, speaking of she, I want
19:27
to make beautiful music with her. I can
19:30
rap and she can play the guitar. Play
19:33
the guitar. But anyway, back to the
19:35
kitchen and back to the cooking and back
19:37
to the gumbo and back to the
19:39
[Â __Â ] world, dog. Wake up. There
19:42
it is, man. Gumbo in the building. They
19:44
just wanted to give you a taste of what
19:45
it is. Come on, man. They want to follow
19:47
Gumbo, how can they follow Gumbo, man?
19:49
What y'all got coming next? Oh, man, we
19:51
got All True out now. Go ahead and tap
19:53
in on Instagram, Gumbo official. Okay.
19:57
in, everything else is there. Thanks,
19:58
man.
19:58
There it is, man. Come on. Every time,
20:00
man, y'all family and keep Hey, listen.
20:02
Chuck D said he's handing you the baton.
20:04
No question. That's a lot of legacy, a
20:06
lot of responsibility. No, they they
20:09
they they handling it and you can see it
20:11
in their eyes. They mean it and they nod
20:14
to it and and that's what it's all
20:16
about. That's what it's all about. It's
20:17
it's all about. I mean, how how many
20:19
people have you ushered through your
20:20
doors, Sway? I lost count, Chuck D.
20:24
And everybody and the peoples and their
20:26
families is gracious for that. Yes, I
20:28
appreciate that.
20:29
Gracious for that.
20:29
Thank you, brother.
20:30
and uh I am most especially.
20:33
Yo, man. Hey, listen, this Chuck D,
20:34
right here. It's my brother, man. We've
20:36
been doing this for decades. Professor
20:38
Melina Abdullah from Funk Town is in the
20:41
building.
20:43
Uh Black Lives Matter's grassroots.
20:46
You know, you know, I look at Gumbo in
20:49
in in the in this the vibe and the seeds
20:51
out of Project Blowed Yes. Yeah. They
20:54
come out of that. They come out of that
20:56
legacy. And also putting, you know,
20:58
truth to power and meaning with that. I
20:59
love it, man. Thank you all for coming
21:01
by and blessing these airwaves. All
21:03
right. All right. Appreciate you all.
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