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Who reigns supreme in the ultimate showdown? "Sway In The Morning" dives deep into the historic clash between Canelo Alvarez and Terence "Bud" Crawford, two of boxing’s greatest icons. Join Sway and guests Ak & Barak, the voices behind "Ring Champs," as they unpack the stakes, legacies, and passion driving this fight. Hear exclusive insights about the fighters' journeys, the impact of boxing culture, and what makes this matchup so monumental. From tales of grit to the business side of the sport, this conversation delivers it all.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - INTRO
03:24 - What Boxing Needs: Reform, Growth, Future
08:16 - The Journey to Landing All The Smoke: Career, Challenges, Success
15:25 - How The All The Smoke Relationship Began: Partnership, Collaboration, History
18:09 - How All The Smoke Has Helped Ak & Barak: Influence, Growth, Opportunities
21:59 - How DAZN Treated Ak & Barak: Experience, Management, Relationships
26:14 - Could Mayweather Come Back: Comeback, Legacy, Expectations
27:50 - How to Build a Star Fighter: Training, Promotion, Success
31:40 - Could Bud Beat Canelo: Matchup, Analysis, Predictions
38:01 - What’s Next for All The Smoke: Future, Plans, Goals
39:01 - All The Smoke’s Impact on Boxing: Influence, Change, Community
41:35 - Last Words: Conclusion, Reflections, Insights
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0:00
Ladies and gentlemen, the reason why we
0:03
are here in Vegas today, Horace, can you
0:05
tell them what's the biggest fight of
0:08
of the past decade? Man, Saul Canelo
0:11
Alvarez and Terence "T" Bud Crawford.
0:15
Man, and let me tell you something,
0:18
these boxers are legacy boxers. These
0:21
are people who have put in the grind for
0:23
years, who have earned their opportunity
0:25
to be on this big stage over and over
0:27
again. To me, they uphold the integrity
0:30
that you find in boxing
0:32
and and in the sweet science of boxing
0:34
that attract people like me who are just
0:37
couch watchers, who just like to watch
0:39
boxing
0:40
on the couch. You know, I've watched it
0:41
from the '70s. I like to often brag
0:43
about being there and watching some of
0:46
the biggest fights that ever taken place
0:48
in history as a young man. I got a
0:49
chance to see Muhammad Ali on TV, Sugar
0:52
Ray Leonard on TV, Hagler and Hearns on
0:55
TV. I got a chance to see all of these
0:57
things as a kid. And so, becoming an
0:59
adult and having these platforms and and
1:02
teaming up with my brother Horace, we
1:03
were able to start the one and only
1:06
Bridge Business. There are two
1:08
individuals though that really captured
1:10
our eye early on, back in I want to say
1:13
2019,
1:14
that I really enjoyed watching their
1:16
conversation about boxing. And to me,
1:19
they were people who were they were
1:21
eager, man. They they always been hungry
1:23
to fight get the information out. I knew
1:26
that their passion for the sport ran
1:28
deeper than just seeing people plant
1:30
each other. They wanted those people who
1:31
jumped in the ring be taken care of.
1:34
Wanted to make sure they had health
1:35
benefits. Wanted to make sure they could
1:37
retire properly. Wanted to make sure
1:39
they translated what boxing is all about
1:42
to a mass public. And to me, I haven't
1:45
seen anybody who's done it quite like
1:47
they have. And when you look around now,
1:49
you see everybody talking about boxing.
1:52
Right, you see a thousand podcasters
1:54
just talking about boxing.
1:56
Well, if you ask me, it was these two
1:58
who were in the front lines early on in
2:01
this new digital space that really
2:04
pioneered and helped be vanguards in
2:07
talking about boxing in digital spaces.
2:10
I want to welcome them back to the show,
2:12
the one and only AK AND BARAK.
2:34
I'LL TAKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DOES
2:36
IT. The intros are legendary. You You're
2:38
famous for your intros. Mhm. Seriously,
2:41
and a few other things.
2:49
Hey, but you know, I I I it's it's I
2:52
liken it you could make parallels to how
2:54
we talk about hip-hop.
2:56
Right? Which is a culture that has
2:58
impacted all of our lives and afford us
3:01
to be able to do the things that we love
3:03
and to make a livelihood off of it. And
3:05
then to create energy for other people
3:07
to do the exact same thing. That's how
3:09
everybody in this room is together. It's
3:11
because of hip-hop. We didn't know each
3:13
other when we all got into hip-hop. I
3:15
didn't know Horace, Horace didn't know
3:16
Heather, Heather didn't know me, we
3:17
didn't know Tracy. We still don't know
3:19
Tracy.
3:24
BUT THAT'S HOW I LIKEN WHAT you all are
3:28
doing for boxing. Right, the parallel to
3:31
what we do for hip-hop. Why, AK, to this
3:36
day are you so passionate about talking
3:39
about I watch your interviews from
3:41
yesterday and I'm like, this dude is
3:44
still talking about boxing like nobody
3:47
knows what it is. I just I just love
3:50
First of all, thank you and I I love I
3:52
like I fought 75 amateur fights. I
3:54
was involved in the sport since 5 years
3:56
old, right?
3:57
But this is the only sport where
4:00
it there if you let's say in basketball,
4:03
right? NBA, NFL, these sports you have
4:05
to be elite at every single level to
4:09
maybe a long shot to get drafted to be a
4:12
professional player, right? Boxing is
4:14
different. Like one fight, one punch can
4:17
change your life. You know, if you're in
4:18
the right right position. I love the
4:19
stories, but the only problem is that,
4:22
you know, boxing is not appreciated the
4:25
way it should be, right? Fight fans,
4:27
they want you to go in there and kill
4:28
yourself. They don't care about what
4:30
happens after when the sport is all
4:32
done, when nobody's coming to watch your
4:34
fights, no nobody is nobody's helping
4:37
with your
4:38
health
4:39
benefits. And so, I I want the fans to
4:42
appreciate these fighters risking their
4:44
lives every time in the square circle.
4:47
So, that's what brings me the passion.
4:48
And also, it's it's the greatest sport
4:50
in the world, man. None None like What
4:52
what what about you, Barak?
4:55
Oh, that's it? You just going to say
4:56
that?
4:57
He said that amazing He said that
4:59
amazing speech.
5:01
What do you hope to like what is it that
5:03
boxing need from a commenting position
5:06
that the void that you hope that you all
5:08
are filling? That's a great question.
5:10
First of all, I feel like you you talked
5:13
about hip-hop earlier and I think
5:14
hip-hop is the biggest thing in the
5:15
world. You know what I'm saying? Like my
5:17
memories are like, okay, what song was
5:19
out back then? 1992, yeah, it was Mary
5:22
J. Blige and Nas put me at That's how I
5:24
remember things. You know, but boxing is
5:27
big probably because everybody can
5:28
relate to a fight. You know, everybody
5:31
can relate to being in a fight. Whether
5:32
you've been in a fight or not, you
5:33
wanted to punch somebody in the face.
5:35
You're sick of your boss, you're sick of
5:36
somebody. So, everybody, every sport,
5:38
every athlete, everybody, every artist
5:41
can relate to a fight. It's it's a fight
5:43
for you to get to where you at. And to
5:45
stay where you're at. You know, and I
5:47
feel like us being in boxing, the way
5:50
that we can contribute is give the
5:51
fighters a platform to show their
5:54
personality, show who they are so that
5:57
since they call boxing a dying sport,
6:00
you fall in love with the fighter. You
6:02
fall in love with the personality. Floyd
6:04
Mayweather became famous because of 24/7
6:07
because you got to see that money
6:08
Mayweather mentality, that that that
6:11
charisma. He was chilling with 50 Cent,
6:12
they're riding through his mansion. You
6:14
got to see that. And when you provide
6:16
platforms to show personality, people
6:18
want to see you do whatever you do.
6:21
This is the everywhere. Everybody's
6:22
famous doing whatever. Eating a
6:24
sandwich, people want to see you do it.
6:26
And there's a small percentage of
6:28
fighters that really make money. Like a
6:29
very very small. You know, people have
6:31
this
6:32
perception that, you know, if you're a
6:34
professional boxer, you're doing really
6:36
well. And 99% of fighters don't do well.
6:46
It's in the '90s.
6:48
In my opinion, at least 95% No, 90 You
6:52
know how many boxers there are?
6:54
Professional boxers exist. Thousands and
6:57
thousands. You know how many
6:58
uh make a living from it where they
7:00
don't have to do anything else?
7:02
Very small percentage. Most most boxers,
7:05
professional boxers, most of them have
7:08
to have other jobs because boxing, you
7:10
know, can't maintain their lifestyle
7:12
like even paying the bills.
7:14
It's a thankless sport. It's a thankless
7:16
sport. Horace, you want to jump in?
7:18
That's what I love about these guys
7:19
right here cuz they give you about the
7:20
business behind the sport. You see how
7:22
he said 95% of these guys ain't even
7:23
making no money like that to to survive.
7:26
So, just the fact that everybody think
7:28
that you see Mayweather, Tyson,
7:32
Tyson got tigers running around in his
7:33
yard and stuff like that. But you ain't
7:35
never see a fighter like that since
7:36
Tyson, you know what I mean? So, just
7:38
the fact that they're giving us the
7:39
behind the curtain scene about what's
7:40
going on, that's what I love about
7:42
messing with AK and Barak. AK and Barak,
7:43
man. AK is spelled AK, Barak is spelled
7:46
BARAK. Yeah, stop calling me AK, people.
7:50
I did that one time and he he challenged
7:53
me to a brawl, YOU KNOW.
7:56
SINCE SINCE you did that, people started
7:58
calling me AK.
8:04
But that's how I know when they lie and
8:06
and they say they watch the show. I'm
8:07
like, you don't know what I start the
8:09
show off, it's your boy AK. So, I know
8:11
people be lying about watching the
8:13
Let's talk about your journey and then I
8:15
want to get into this weekend's
8:16
festivities with Canelo Alvarez and
8:19
Terence Crawford.
8:21
What did it take for you guys to get to
8:23
the point you are now? If you could just
8:25
kind of run it up the the timeline. When
8:28
we met you,
8:30
I feel like you were working with
8:31
SiriusXM. Right. Right? And then y'all
8:34
were working on behalf of DAZN, the DAZN
8:37
network. Well, no, when we first met, we
8:40
weren't we we weren't on DAZN yet. 2015
8:43
was when we first got the opportunity to
8:45
host a show on SiriusXM
8:47
for XM for 1 day a week, which is on
8:50
Tuesdays, right? And the journey I mean,
8:52
it's a long journey, but just to try to
8:53
summarize and Barak can add to it, you
8:55
know, we were
8:58
I I was I was a fighter at heart, right?
9:00
I loved boxing. I got a chance to a
9:01
friend of mine had a internet radio
9:03
station in Jersey. He said, AK, you want
9:05
to host a show like for a hobby. I
9:07
wasn't getting paid. It wasn't any There
9:09
wasn't money involved, but I started
9:10
talking about sports, boxing. And then
9:12
Zab Judah had a fight in Jersey. I had
9:15
him on the show and I
9:16
sold it like it was a big successful
9:18
internet radio show. It was about five
9:20
people listening. But he came on the
9:21
show anyway. Zab's my my guy. And then
9:24
from there, we we was grinding with
9:25
WorldStarHipHop.com
9:27
telling And I'm going to put it out
9:29
there. We were telling boxing
9:31
promotional companies when we fill out
9:33
the media credential that uh I work for
9:35
WorldStarHipHop.com because they they
9:37
were doing so well.
9:39
They would give They would give you a
9:40
media credential, but we weren't working
9:42
for them. All we did was record videos
9:44
and send it to them hoping they would
9:46
post it, right? So, we could it could
9:48
legitimize us saying we work for them.
9:50
And
9:51
it didn't for a while, but one time we
9:53
did an interview with Paulie and they
9:55
put it on the
9:56
It did numbers. It went viral. And then
9:59
it seemed like we really did work for
10:00
them. But we actually I'm letting it
10:01
known that we did not work for
10:03
WorldStar. What you had to do. That's
10:05
what we had to do to get access to to to
10:08
go into the fight. We would come to
10:09
Vegas on our own dime. For 5 years we
10:12
spent our own money to go to fights, to
10:15
pay hotel rooms, just to be in the mix.
10:18
I mean my my son's mother and I we were
10:19
together at the time. She would she
10:21
would say like, "Bro, I mean this is a
10:22
hobby. You're spending money. We're not
10:24
making any money. Like what are you
10:26
doing?" The vision was there. It's hard
10:29
you know it it was hard but it it took a
10:31
long time. But 2015 was when it all
10:33
started.
10:34
>> wrap that up.
10:37
It was a good story. Hey listen, you I
10:39
gave him a 10-year story in like 2
10:42
minutes.
10:44
You got to be locked in. And Paulie
10:45
Malignaggi, right? Okay, you know folks
10:48
may not know who that is, right? And so
10:51
and so y'all lied to get into media
10:53
events, right? That's what you got from
10:55
That's what you got from me lying.
10:57
I just found out that he was lying
10:59
last year. I'm not lying.
11:01
I THOUGHT WE REALLY WERE. HE LIED to me
11:04
too.
11:06
HE'S SO SERIOUS.
11:07
>> AN HONEST PERSON. I couldn't tell him.
11:10
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
11:12
>> WE WAS. UH YO and so so and then
11:15
we met I remember going to Gleason's.
11:18
Yep, Gleason's gym. Barack. Yes. Yes.
11:21
And and
11:22
Shawn Porter was training for a fight.
11:25
I'm not sure who he had coming up next.
11:27
It might have been Berto I think. I
11:29
think It could have been It could have
11:30
been Andre Berto. That was an amazing
11:32
fight. Stopped Berto. First person to
11:34
really stop Berto. Uh-huh. Yeah, that
11:36
was crazy. We met in Gleason's gym.
11:39
That's right. And then where were you at
11:41
this stage when we met at Glea- cuz I
11:43
want people to hear how many platforms
11:45
y'all had to jump to land with all the
11:48
smoke fight. And after you after you
11:50
express yourself I'm going to tell you
11:51
how we ended up at SiriusXM, which is a
11:53
very interesting story and it's going to
11:54
teach people to not listen to other
11:57
people. But go ahead. At that time at
11:59
that time we our show got canceled on
12:01
SiriusXM. You know they wanted like to
12:03
more MMA. You know but they said, "You
12:06
know what? We want to cancel the show
12:07
but we want to keep you guys as hosts.
12:08
So whenever whenever we need you we want
12:10
to use you. So that gave us the SiriusXM
12:13
brand still. So we would go to these
12:15
fights, be everywhere. And then
12:17
eventually a friend of mine from
12:19
Brooklyn
12:20
knew 50 Cent. He was like, "Listen, 50
12:22
Cent they need something on
12:23
thisis50.com.
12:25
Um I I want to bring you up there." I
12:27
said, "Well you you know I'm doing
12:28
something with Ak. This is you know we
12:30
we started something. We we got a buzz
12:32
but we don't have anything at the
12:34
moment. We had a meeting with 50 Cent.
12:36
Good brother to this day. I don't care
12:38
what anybody say. He was good to us. You
12:41
know what I'm saying? He was good to us
12:42
and he's very knowledgeable about
12:44
boxing. He's just a wise individual
12:46
anyway. And he gave us a shot and it
12:49
just blew up. Yeah, I mean the show blew
12:51
up. We had Showtime, HBO sending us
12:53
fighters. Everybody. It was amazing. So
12:55
that's where we were at that time when I
12:58
met you. Okay.
12:59
>> And shout out to everybody at G-Unit
13:01
like Renee, Mario. Everybody over there
13:04
showed showed us love. I mean we had a
13:05
4-hour conversation about boxing the
13:07
first time we met him. And he said, "Yo,
13:09
you guys should start tomorrow this
13:10
show." And that's where the Sweet
13:12
Scientists started at
13:14
at thisis50. But when we first in 2015,
13:17
I'll never forget this. We were at the
13:18
Barclays Center
13:20
with a credential we probably lied to
13:22
get, right? They lied.
13:24
We were in in the back where media they
13:26
they show I mean they they give people
13:28
food, water. So I see a guy with a media
13:31
credential it says SiriusXM, right?
13:33
Combat Sports Channel. I don't remember
13:34
what it was Rush 93 at the time or
13:36
something like that. So I asked a guy
13:38
that I knew who was a friend of mine who
13:41
had spent time at SiriusXM, right? So I
13:43
said, "Hey, who's that?" He says, "Oh,
13:46
he's like program director for for the
13:47
Combat Sports Channel." I said, "Yo, I
13:50
want to introduce myself. Let him know
13:51
what Barack and I doing." This is what
13:53
he tells me.
13:55
Uh and they kind of stuck in their ways.
13:57
They have two hosts that are little
13:59
older. You know they don't want anything
14:00
innovative. Y'all energy is too young.
14:02
It's too too much of the culture.
14:05
Don't waste your time.
14:07
So I went back and sat in my seat
14:11
uh you know watching the fights. And I
14:13
had an epiphany. I said, "Man, F what
14:15
this dude is talking about." I'm going
14:16
to walk back to the media room. Luckily
14:18
enough he was the only one there about
14:20
to head back to his seat.
14:21
>> Wow.
14:22
>> And I said,
14:23
"Hey, my name is Ak."
14:25
He says, "My name is Ricky Bonney." I
14:27
said, "I see you work for Sirius. I
14:28
said, "Do you have a second a minute,
14:30
right?" He said, "Sure." So Barack and I
14:32
had recorded a little segment of this
14:34
little internet radio show we were
14:35
doing. So I had something on my phone to
14:37
show people. We created We made it look
14:40
like it was a show. We was up all night
14:42
me and the editor trying to piece this
14:43
together. It looked like we really had a
14:45
show that was on Hulu.
14:46
>> But I had something to show him.
14:49
And and as soon as I showed him he spent
14:52
a minute. He was like, "Yo, this is
14:53
exactly what we were looking for." So
14:55
had I listened to the gentleman that
14:57
said, "Don't waste your time." We
14:59
literally would not be here today. So
15:01
The Zone wouldn't happen.
15:03
This is 50 nothing. But I had to go
15:06
back. God's plan is God's plan. He was
15:08
probably telling the truth but that was
15:10
his story. That was his experience. He
15:13
tried to get on and they said, "You're
15:15
too young. You're too this. You're too
15:17
that." Then guys the same age came with
15:20
different swag with a different
15:22
anointing from God. Yes. That's what
15:24
happened. Praise God.
15:26
Praise God.
15:28
Praise God.
15:30
Now you guys are at all premier fight. I
15:34
don't feel right if I don't see you guys
15:36
at a fight, right? It don't feel right
15:38
if I don't see Ak and Barack
15:40
interviewing some of the biggest boxing
15:43
names that the sport has to offer. But
15:46
I'll be remiss if we didn't mention
15:48
Stack and Matt Barnes and how the
15:51
relationship with the All the Smoke
15:53
umbrella um began. Well well I I'll say
15:56
this. Like when we signed to The Zone in
15:58
2018, which is they came with a billion
16:00
dollars to America and they said, you
16:03
know they they they sold out for us and
16:04
they said, "Whatever you guys are doing
16:05
at thisis50, we want y'all to host
16:08
our flagship show at The Zone." And
16:11
enough money for us to say 50 everything
16:14
everything was great. Thank you for
16:15
everything. We got to move on, right?
16:17
It's life-changing money. And then we
16:19
started but we got comfortable, right?
16:21
Under the pay you know behind a paywall
16:23
The Zone was was traveling the world
16:25
online broadcast, hosting a daily show.
16:28
But we didn't own anything, right? Like
16:30
if
16:31
network decides to go a different
16:32
direction then you're back to square one
16:35
with nothing. So for 5-6 years we did
16:38
that. And I think about a year ago
16:39
Barack and I were brainstorming. We
16:41
said, "Bro, we got to shift here. Like
16:43
if The Zone decides to go in a different
16:45
direction we're effed, right?" So we
16:48
said, "We have to start and bring out
16:50
not do the daily show with them anymore
16:52
and bring our show somewhere else." And
16:54
that's when we started brainstorming.
16:56
And All the Smoke Matt and Stack teamed
16:59
up with Brian Daley who was an exec at
17:01
Showtime and they formed All the Smoke
17:04
Fight. And Barack and I said, "Wait,
17:07
that that's the home. It's just the
17:09
right fit for us." And we had to
17:10
negotiate for 6 months but it's a
17:13
partnership where Ak and Barack own have
17:15
ownership to Ring Champs, right? And
17:17
they're building our platform from
17:19
scratch. They have an amazing team. And
17:21
now we own Ring Champs with All the
17:24
Smoke. Shout out to them.
17:25
Shout out to them. The YouTube the
17:27
channel is growing.
17:29
And shout out to them. Yeah, man. Yo,
17:31
All the Smoke on my that's my favorite
17:34
organization. They're pioneers in this
17:36
podcast. in the podcast space that but
17:39
when I say organization how they
17:42
enterprised their brand All the Smoke.
17:45
And I mean they are the coolest dudes
17:49
in person. I mean I I can't think of it.
17:51
Stack was behind me when we was at the
17:54
Canelo-Charlo fight. Oh wow. Yo, what up
17:57
Sway? Hey man.
18:00
MATT MATT MATT AND I WAS AT a Snoop
18:02
listening once recently.
18:04
Yeah and so I'm really
18:06
excited, inspired and proud of those
18:08
guys. But it also has brought you guys
18:12
even more visibility. Yes. 100%. I mean
18:14
they're real businessmen to the to the
18:17
core. And one of the guys Brian Daley,
18:19
he was a Showtime guy. Okay.
18:21
>> so all of the stuff that we used to
18:22
watch on Showtime he was behind all of
18:25
that. And they negotiated somehow to
18:27
take all of the Showtime intellectual
18:29
property. You mean their Instagram,
18:31
their digital platforms.
18:32
>> All of it. YouTube, everything over to
18:35
All the Smoke Productions because he's
18:37
the one that built it anyway. And now
18:39
for us to be a part of that. We used to
18:40
always say, "Damn, you know what I'm
18:42
saying? We we have we built a name in
18:43
this sport but if we had a team I
18:45
believe we go further." And that team is
18:48
All the Smoke because we've been with
18:49
them 7 months and got 14 million views
18:52
with a brand new page that we started
18:54
called Ring Champs. Ring Champs. Almost
18:57
at 30,000 subscribers and it's scary
19:00
because you stay watching the
19:01
subscribers like when is this growing?
19:02
And then certain interviews with you
19:04
know Ryan Garcia, Terence Crawford and
19:06
they started going and going. So it's
19:08
still we still got a long way to go but
19:11
according to the experts YouTube and the
19:13
team been saying we're growing at a
19:14
rapid rapid He won't stop either.
19:17
And and and then what you've done in the
19:19
past will keep living forward. And so
19:22
And and shout out to Stephen Jackson.
19:23
Stack was one of those guys early on cuz
19:26
he loved boxing. So he'll be at all the
19:27
fights. And he he told me a couple of
19:29
years ago he said, "You know when
19:31
Showtime Showtime's done with boxing
19:33
we're going to start something." I guess
19:34
they already knew something was
19:35
happening. Like we want you and Barack
19:37
involved. Don't worry about it. So he
19:39
planted that seed early. And then you
19:41
know Matt Barnes, super smart
19:43
businessman as well. He wanted us on
19:44
board. And that whole team is
19:46
phenomenal. I'm happy where we are.
19:47
Look, The Zone did a lot for us giving
19:50
us global visibility. Yeah. You know but
19:52
at times it was a struggle for us to
19:54
create what we wanted to create.
19:56
>> they I mean they did a lot for you, but
19:57
I I think in the end I
20:00
it didn't feel like to the onlooker that
20:02
they were treating you
20:04
as you should be treated. They Amen. I
20:06
don't it didn't feel like
20:08
It was
20:09
it was a beautiful vehicle. It was a
20:11
beautiful vehicle to get to where we had
20:12
to go and and they did a tremendous job.
20:15
I think at the time was they was coming
20:16
into
20:17
a market where streaming wasn't
20:21
you know, it wasn't accepted really.
20:22
Like people want to fight on
20:23
pay-per-view. Guys like Broner was like,
20:25
"I ain't fighting on no app." You know
20:27
what I mean? So, we had already built a
20:29
name with 50 in the boxing world. So,
20:32
they they needed us to introduce them to
20:34
the boxing world. And now
20:36
>> they're the biggest platform right now.
20:39
Yeah. DAZN Yeah, no, DAZN is great.
20:44
Listen, we still do stuff for DAZN. We
20:46
still do stuff for DAZN though like
20:48
Overtime Boxing.
20:51
I'm saying to the onlooker cuz I saw the
20:53
chance Yo, listen, we used to have that
20:55
you know, DAZN come on our show when
20:57
nobody knew what DAZN was
20:59
when it was launching. Right. And um and
21:02
you know, I I've had really nasty
21:05
experiences
21:06
since
21:07
and I I think they might have forgot.
21:10
They they forgot. I think they might
21:12
have forgot. So, God bless what they've
21:14
done for you or what you've done for
21:16
them. Right. Thank you. But you can't
21:19
you can't be nasty in the end. I won't
21:21
get into details. But what was the
21:23
owner's name?
21:23
>> You know what? You going to make Horse
21:25
say it? Shut up, boy.
21:32
I
21:34
think I like what they did for I'm not
21:36
as a platform cool, but I had some nasty
21:38
experiences with them. And then I used
21:40
to call y'all and ask you how come y'all
21:41
not doing certain things. Right. Right.
21:43
I ain't making this into a negative. It
21:44
was a No, no, I get that.
21:46
Can I if you if you don't mind, I want
21:48
to shout Charlamagne too who speaks
21:50
highly of you. He was one of those that
21:52
also had us on his platform and always
21:54
talked about DAZN needing us and what we
21:57
did for them. But a lot of those guys
21:59
are Brits. They're British. They don't
22:01
really understand the culture here, you
22:02
know? So, I don't completely fault them.
22:05
But they did they did I guess help
22:07
launch DAZN.
22:08
>> You know what it is? So, I remember what
22:10
Sway is talking about and I remember
22:12
seeing DAZN and Sway was like, "Yo, we
22:14
going to bring some guy." And we
22:15
couldn't even pronounce the name. Like
22:17
Tracy and I we was like, "What is this
22:19
DAZN?" Like
22:20
what is this?
22:22
And we Sway invited them over. Let's
22:24
come on, man. We going to get this the
22:25
shot. They're starting this boxing
22:27
thing. And I watched it grow. Like I
22:29
watched you guys. I watched the company
22:31
grow. And then when it's time to do
22:33
certain things and Sway and Horse in
22:35
particular go back and say, "Hey, can
22:38
you know, this has happened and that's
22:40
going on." And you treat people as if I
22:43
got what I needed from you already.
22:45
>> Mhm. Let let it go to the side. That
22:46
stays with you. The same way somebody
22:48
can do something kind for you like you
22:50
guys said, "I'll never forget that."
22:52
It's the same way you could do something
22:53
very nasty and people never forget it.
22:56
So, Sway that that I witnessed what he's
23:00
talking about without mentioning names.
23:02
And and so there you that's his
23:04
experience. You the same way you spoke
23:06
about someone telling you that's not
23:08
what they're looking for and Barack said
23:10
well, that was that that's Sway and
23:11
Horse's experience with that. And so,
23:14
yeah, it's unfortunate. I definitely
23:16
understand that. I just feel like and
23:18
and I have my moments of of negative
23:21
interactions with a whole bunch of
23:22
platforms and people whatever.
23:24
But I kind of feel like those are
23:26
blessings as well. You know what I'm
23:28
saying? And that's why you never hear me
23:29
talk bad about anybody or anything.
23:31
Yeah. Yeah. I love y'all. Let me say
23:33
that. I love what they provided. Y'all
23:36
symbiotic mutually
23:38
you know, beneficial relationship.
23:41
I like what she said. They get what they
23:43
want out of you and then
23:45
And then I don't want
23:46
I don't want
23:47
I don't want nothing from them. Even a
23:49
personal thing.
23:51
I've been in this business longer than
23:52
DAZN.
23:53
>> But you got to think about this. That's
23:54
a fact. Think about this on me. We got
23:56
into British boxing because of Ak and
23:58
Barack. I I don't know none of the
23:59
fighters over there at all. And I used
24:02
to I used to text
24:03
I used to text
24:05
Barack all the time like, "Yo, I really
24:07
don't know these guys right here. Give
24:09
me some insight on these type of guys."
24:11
So, watching these guys and especially
24:13
like in the ring and after the ring
24:14
after the fight talk to these people
24:16
gave me insight of some of the British
24:17
fighters and that's what brought me to
24:19
DAZN actually.
24:21
He said Barack is is a great dude and he
24:23
always finds a positive and stuff. But
24:24
the reality is that when we joined DAZN,
24:27
the team that was excited about us that
24:29
entire regime is no longer there.
24:30
>> Yeah.
24:31
It's no longer there. It's a whole new
24:34
No, no, I'm saying I'm I'm not throwing
24:36
any shots at anybody. I'm saying they
24:38
they were
24:39
the squad that DAZN launched with in
24:41
America effed us heavy and they we had
24:44
support. And then people started to get
24:47
fired and leave and then next thing you
24:48
know, you look up it's a whole new squad
24:51
Yeah. that don't eff with us the same
24:53
way. You know what I mean? And there's
24:54
still a couple there that respect us and
24:56
look, shout out to Turki Alalshikh and
24:58
the Crown Prince and all that for
25:00
bringing breathing life into the sport,
25:02
right? And they've been with with DAZN
25:04
and and and have done a lot. That's why
25:06
we're getting this fight, right?
25:07
>> Okay, let me let me say this just for
25:08
clarity. I believe what DAZN has done
25:11
for boxing is excellent as a company.
25:14
If I could go a little deeper, I just
25:16
saw one of the
25:18
executives treat some women Yes.
25:21
>> Oh, snap.
25:22
>> very badly. Mhm. Now, that's different.
25:24
And I was sitting right there and I'm
25:26
looking at the person and they have no
25:28
idea that I'm the same person that years
25:31
ago
25:32
you know, helped them. helped you know,
25:34
whatever helped or you know, promote
25:36
okay. And it wasn't about me.
25:38
It was just who are you as a human being
25:40
where you talking to boxing fans and
25:43
treating them like this. Mhm. That's
25:45
what I'm saying. It has nothing to do
25:46
with It has nothing to do with with
25:49
y'all relationship. So, I don't want you
25:50
to feel like you have to defend Right.
25:52
>> them or what I'm saying. I saw some [ __ ]
25:55
so nasty Ak. Really? Yeah, that it was
25:58
like
25:58
>> Well, we'll talk off there. I want to
25:59
know who that was. I'll tell you. Yeah,
26:01
man. Anyway, but guy you know, salute to
26:03
y'all though. Let's let's
26:07
We got a lot of people on the phone
26:09
line. We're just talking. Frequency
26:10
Friday. Let's go to line three. We got
26:12
Chew on the line from Louisiana. Chew,
26:14
what
26:17
What up, family? What up? What up? What
26:19
up? What up? What's going on, bro?
26:22
Hey, uh real quick. Last week on the
26:25
show,
26:26
uh Big Horse made a hot take. He said
26:29
he thinks the winner of this fight
26:30
tomorrow
26:32
Mayweather's going to come back and
26:34
fight. If that's the case,
26:39
I know I know that Mayweather likes to
26:41
steal the limelight. Like he just put
26:43
out something about him and Mike Tyson
26:45
about the fight coincidentally when when
26:48
we're trying to watch Bud versus Canelo.
26:50
So,
26:51
I would say no, BUT THAT'S NOT
26:54
FAR-FETCHED.
26:57
IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
27:00
>> but I don't think Mayweather is in shape
27:01
to fight a real boxer that's great
27:04
today. You know what I mean? Mayweather
27:06
has his time and he's TBE whatever, but
27:08
nah, he can't do that. He can't compete.
27:10
>> He can't compete at this level. Don't
27:11
think he would be able to take either of
27:12
those guys at this Hell no. Hell no.
27:14
>> Not now. Not now. Not going on 50 years
27:17
old.
27:17
>> get killed.
27:18
>> Yeah, he had his time. He had his time
27:20
when he was the man. Okay. Chew, any
27:23
other questions?
27:25
I'm good, man. That's all I had. We
27:26
appreciate you, bro.
27:28
Thank you, Sway. You got no citizen.
27:31
He's he won't get into the ring to
27:33
survive. Like he won't even put himself
27:34
in that position. He can't he can't win.
27:36
He can't beat Canelo. He can't beat Bud
27:38
at this stage.
27:39
>> He said it himself. He said, "I I put
27:41
the work in the game. I have a legacy
27:43
already. I I'm not going to fight real
27:44
boxers. Okay. You know, I'm going to
27:46
fight other guys." That's why he's
27:47
fighting everybody else.
27:48
Okay, cool. Tracy? When you initially
27:50
Barack, you had mentioned um Floyd and
27:53
you were talking about how fans fall in
27:55
love with the fighter and the
27:56
personality, right? And they want to
27:59
follow a story and they're drawn to
28:01
charisma. For both you and Ak, if you
28:04
were managing a fighter right now, what
28:06
would be y'all blueprint for building
28:09
him or her into a star?
28:12
Oh, that's a good question. There's so
28:13
many you never know what people are
28:15
attracted to sometimes. I would tell a
28:17
fighter and I tell these young fighters,
28:19
man, stay humble. Stay humble. That's
28:22
it. Let your talent speak for itself.
28:25
And let your and be real with your
28:27
personality. Don't turn it on. Don't
28:29
don't turn on and try to create a new
28:31
persona or whatever like that. Yeah,
28:33
Floyd got away with doing that, but
28:34
Floyd was so super disciplined at what
28:36
he was doing. He didn't get caught up in
28:38
that persona. I see guys that try to
28:40
mimic Floyd and create a persona and
28:43
they get lost in it. And then they and
28:45
they and they career kind of down
28:47
slides. You know what I mean? So, don't
28:49
do that. Be humble. Keep your original
28:52
personality and let your talent speak
28:55
for itself.
28:56
>> Yeah, I mean I think the most important
28:57
thing is I would have to make sure that
28:59
person can really fight fight right
29:01
before putting any energy into it cuz a
29:03
lot of people look great in the gym, but
29:05
when they're tested, you know, true
29:06
colors come out. So,
29:08
you know, I I agree with Barack. I think
29:10
you have to stay true to who you are.
29:12
But you also have to push people that
29:15
may not have a big personality at least
29:17
to be expressive whether it's on social
29:19
media. Like stop stop saying, "Oh, I
29:22
don't like Instagram. I don't do social.
29:24
I don't talk." So, you don't want to be
29:25
a star. You don't want the world to know
29:27
you. Like I get it that fighting does
29:30
the talking. Like even Terence who's the
29:32
best fighter in the world isn't
29:34
bragadocious and outspoken, but if you
29:36
get to know him, he's funny. Yeah. He a
29:39
heck of funny. He is.
29:41
He he has a great personality. He's a
29:43
country boy from Nebraska. Loves his
29:45
kids. But to Barack's point, you have to
29:47
see that. So, Bud's been more expressive
29:50
lately and he's been So, you have to
29:52
express
29:52
>> there to bring that out of them. We're
29:54
not trying to actually be different.
29:56
We'll bring it out you. Don't worry.
29:57
We'll give you the platform to bring
29:58
that out. And even with Bud, if he
30:00
wasn't blackballed by certain promoters,
30:03
he would have been big and famous years
30:05
ago.
30:05
>> did he get blackballed to your
30:07
understanding?
30:07
>> He was dangerous.
30:09
>> you mean?
30:09
>> He He was a He wasn't popular, so he's a
30:13
high-risk, low-reward.
30:15
>> Mhm. You fight him. Yes, he had a strap.
30:17
He had a championship title at 147, but
30:20
there were other guys too that had
30:22
titles as well.
30:23
>> blackballed him.
30:24
It was PBC.
30:26
I believe that PBC
30:28
>> PBC Al Haymon. Al Haymon's team. I
30:30
believe that You know why? Because they
30:32
had SO MANY FIGHTERS
30:34
>> THEY HAD so many fighters that they felt
30:36
like they didn't need him at the time.
30:38
They had Errol Spence, they had Ugas,
30:39
they had Keith Thurman, they had Manny
30:41
Pacquiao. They had everybody except
30:44
Terence Crawford.
30:45
>> So, they was having fun fighting each
30:47
other and he was kept on the outside.
30:49
>> And he couldn't get the big fights. So,
30:51
you don't blame that on him.
30:52
>> waited He waited to I'm sorry.
30:54
>> not Bob Arum's fault either like for his
30:55
top rank.
30:56
>> No.
30:57
No way. I know he took the blame, but it
31:00
really wasn't and they was mad at
31:01
Terence for resigning resigning with Bob
31:04
Arum, but if somebody changed your life,
31:07
you going to have some kind of loyalty
31:08
hopefully.
31:09
>> And it's not a shot at Al Haymon
31:11
disclaimer like Al has done phenomenal
31:13
things for black fighters. He's black
31:15
and his
31:15
>> He's changed their Yes, he's changed
31:17
their lives. We've been support in
31:19
support of Al Haymon for so many years,
31:21
but I'm just speaking factual. That's
31:23
what they did to Terence Crawford.
31:25
>> It's business. It's like if you got all
31:26
of these fighters, why even include
31:28
Terence? So, to him I guess it's smart
31:30
business, but to fans we like Nah, get
31:33
him involved. So, he had to wait till he
31:35
was in his mid-30s to get that big
31:37
Spence fight. Late 30s
31:39
>> Late 30s. Two things that
31:42
I just said that stood out. Number one,
31:44
you said Terence Crawford who is the
31:46
greatest fighter best fighter in the
31:48
world.
31:48
>> Number one pound-for-pound.
31:50
>> Pound-for-pound leads me to believe that
31:52
you think he can go all the way with the
31:54
win against Canelo Alvarez. Is that
31:57
true?
31:59
So, I've been trying for the last 2
32:02
months to not make predictions for this
32:03
fight cuz
32:05
we're friends with both fighters. I
32:06
would say we're closer to Bud for sure.
32:08
He a friend outside of boxing, you know
32:10
what I mean? I love the guy and his
32:12
family and all of that. So, I'm going to
32:13
be a little biased because of that. But
32:15
if I had to take all that away and just
32:18
speak from a boxing analyst standpoint,
32:21
I think that Canelo is a phenomenal
32:24
fighter and he's very tricky, very
32:26
smart.
32:27
He doesn't get enough credit for how
32:29
skilled he is because people talk about
32:30
his power.
32:32
I think Bud has a tough task ahead of
32:34
him,
32:35
but the size difference that everybody
32:38
is talking about, the weight, it's not
32:39
going to be a significant factor
32:41
Saturday night. Bud is in my opinion is
32:44
is strong, probably just as strong as as
32:47
a Canelo, just as big. He just is losing
32:51
less weight for this fight. He's not
32:52
eating to go up to 168. Walks around at
32:55
180. So, he's just losing less weight to
32:57
meet 168. I think he will shock the
33:00
world on Saturday night and I think
33:03
Terence wins
33:05
a fight
33:07
against Canelo Alvarez.
33:09
I've never heard Ak
33:11
say that.
33:12
Amazing, man. Thank you. Get that round
33:14
of applause.
33:15
>> Yes.
33:16
Cuz our opinion is the exact same.
33:18
>> And he's hoping
33:19
He's hoping Canelo don't hear this. Yes.
33:22
>> He's hoping.
33:23
>> Well, what do you think?
33:25
Put him on the spot. Yeah, I I
33:27
understand what Ak is saying and I agree
33:29
with him. I just feel like in a fight
33:31
where you got two genera
33:33
generational greats, anything can
33:35
happen.
33:36
There was a time when Terence Crawford
33:38
was like when we joked, yeah, you going
33:40
to move up and fight Canelo, he'd be
33:42
like, hell no, I ain't doing that. But
33:44
then when the option really became a
33:46
real thing, he's like, oh yeah, I'm
33:48
going to take on that task and I'm going
33:50
to do it because he's so competitive and
33:51
he really believes in himself. But then
33:53
you got another guy who's a He's already
33:55
great. He could retire right now, be a
33:57
Hall of Famer, and that's Canelo and he
33:59
has a lot of confidence in himself as
34:00
well, but he even says in in the lead-up
34:03
to the fight, he said, yeah, Terence
34:05
does a lot of things better than me, but
34:07
I'm different and when he get in the
34:08
ring, he's going to see that I'm
34:09
different. Both of these guys are super
34:11
special. You can argue both. Most people
34:14
would say Terence is a better boxer.
34:15
Yeah.
34:16
>> But
34:17
but Canelo is bigger and and used to
34:19
being in that weight class. So, he has
34:21
an advantage.
34:22
>> He's a favorite still. Still a favorite
34:24
in this fight.
34:25
>> Absolutely, but Terence is so special,
34:26
he's only a little bit of favorite. And
34:28
he's getting paid. I'm just so happy
34:30
that Terence Crawford is getting paid
34:33
real big money for this.
34:34
>> Okay, man. Man. But Canelo's been
34:37
getting paid.
34:37
>> Canelo's been getting paid. Herschel,
34:39
you wanted to chime in?
34:41
Well, I'm going with Terence Crawford
34:42
straight up. I know Canelo, we met him,
34:44
we stand with the family and stuff like
34:46
that, but I feel like um
34:48
Bud got a lot to prove and I think that
34:50
Canelo never I think he's
34:52
underestimating Bud for being a smaller
34:54
guy. I don't think that he could you
34:55
know take the power and I think that
34:56
it's like Floyd 2.0 with Bud. Mhm. Oh,
35:00
wow. You know, he got the power. Yeah,
35:02
cuz he cuz Floyd could box, but he
35:04
didn't have the knockout power that that
35:06
Bud have. I think that Bud could hit you
35:07
with either hand, left or right and I
35:09
think if Bud go southpaw, I think Canelo
35:11
going to have a problem. Bud is one of
35:13
the only people probably in boxing that
35:15
I've noticed that in their late 30s are
35:18
even even better than what they used to
35:20
be or just as good and has never
35:23
diminished at all. Good. Not not even
35:25
Muhammad Ali, like nobody.
35:26
>> Yeah. But but
35:27
>> All these fighters will get besides
35:29
Floyd, but he couldn't knock people out
35:30
at that age. So, even he diminished, but
35:32
was still great. But It's after he got
35:35
the belt. But but you know, Terence
35:37
didn't fight as much because he was
35:39
blackballed, one fight a year at one
35:41
point. No, I I don't even think it's
35:43
that cuz you know he has 41 fights.
35:46
Yeah. So, it's not like he wasn't
35:47
fighting. It's just He's just special.
35:49
Genetics are different with certain
35:50
people. He's clean. He He doesn't smoke
35:53
just like Floyd didn't smoke, didn't
35:55
drink. Literally, all he does is boxing
35:58
and family. Boxing and family. You know,
36:00
I I Canelo I I and I had to tell you
36:03
know when you talk about this when he
36:04
came on our show for the first time and
36:06
and I know Ak played a significant role
36:08
in getting him on different platforms
36:10
and and shout out to Charlemagne. We
36:12
would see him at fights as well.
36:14
Um
36:16
I had to tell Canelo that I'm team
36:17
Crawford. You told him?
36:19
Wow.
36:21
What was his reaction? Was he coming on
36:22
the show again? Nah, he was I think nah,
36:25
and and if I didn't want it to be about
36:27
that because I'm such a Canelo fan, I
36:30
just was honest about that. It wasn't a
36:32
big deal and he respected it.
36:35
>> there for that and yes, he did respect
36:36
that. You was truthful, but you gave him
36:38
his flowers as well cuz he deserved it.
36:40
>> Yes. Yeah, and I was just if you have to
36:42
pick one or the other, I'm going to I'm
36:44
team Crawford, right? But I have really
36:47
enjoyed sitting talking with Canelo,
36:49
man. I felt like when I looked in his
36:51
eyes, I just saw so much legacy, so much
36:54
history, so much boxing and the way he,
36:58
you know, and I think you guys could get
37:00
credit to the the way he expresses
37:01
himself now. Canelo wasn't even speaking
37:03
English.
37:04
>> Nah, that's true. You know, and now he
37:06
came up there and was cracking jokes the
37:08
whole nine. Yeah, may maybe we had a
37:10
little bit to do with helping him be a
37:13
just feel a little bit better about
37:14
being a speaking English cuz privately
37:16
like we'd be there together. Um we
37:18
brought a barber to his hotel room to to
37:20
cut his hair. He's speaking English.
37:23
He's speaking English to me. He just
37:25
wasn't comfortable enough to put it out
37:26
there.
37:26
>> saying it in public and then all of a
37:28
sudden his first mother effer publicly
37:31
Yeah. and he went viral.
37:32
>> And I remember literally telling him
37:34
like, yo, your English is good enough.
37:35
Talk like to the public in English and
37:38
that changed his career.
37:40
>> Yeah, changed his career. Shout out to
37:41
Canelo, man. Get that man a huge huge
37:44
applause for just representing boxing.
37:46
He's also been great to us. Like he
37:48
Whenever time we needed him on the show,
37:50
he came.
37:51
>> through. Yeah, man, salute to him. It's
37:52
going to be a awesome fight. The second
37:55
question I'm not going to get into. I'm
37:56
going to talk to y'all about that off
37:57
the air. Okay. It was something that
37:59
that Ak had said. I know you guys are
38:01
doing something big today. Yes.
38:03
>> And could can people see what you're
38:05
doing later on this afternoon?
38:06
>> Yes, absolutely. All the smoke fight is
38:09
a big YouTube channel. Like I said, we
38:11
took over Showtimes property and now all
38:14
the smoke is in the game and we're one
38:15
of the intellectual properties on that.
38:17
We call Ring Champs from 12 to 1. Uh
38:20
this IS PACIFIC TIME. WE WILL be live.
38:23
We going to have Kamel Mouton, we going
38:25
to have hopefully Sway going to come
38:27
through.
38:27
>> coming at noon. Herschel coming at noon.
38:30
Lennox Lewis is supposed to come. Hamzah
38:31
Shiraz, like we got some people coming
38:33
through. So, we going to squeeze in as
38:35
many people in within that hour live to
38:38
hype people up for this fight.
38:39
>> What time y'all want us there? We going
38:40
on at 12? What time y'all want us there?
38:42
You come at 12. You You trump everybody.
38:44
Bird. Every time you come in here I'm
38:46
not going to hold you down. If you get
38:47
up Lennox Lewis Cuz I don't know if I'm
38:49
telling Lennox
38:49
LEWIS TO GET UP.
38:51
YOU KNOW.
38:52
>> Lennox Lewis, move over.
38:53
Yeah, I guess just come within that
38:55
block sometime whenever y'all
38:56
comfortable, but I guess the earlier the
38:57
better. Yeah, man. Yeah, I you know, I I
39:01
we we got such a beautiful history and I
39:03
remember coming to Vegas
39:05
>> Yes.
39:06
>> and Barack always brings this up.
39:07
>> I'm sorry.
39:08
>> Yeah, but I came out, flew to Vegas
39:11
because I wanted to help him get the
39:14
type of talent on that platform that it
39:17
deserves.
39:18
>> Stop, let me tell it. Let me tell it.
39:19
I'm not doing it right.
39:20
>> This guy This guy, we had a show and we
39:23
were doing okay. This guy literally paid
39:25
his own money
39:27
to come to Vegas. That's a flight. Then
39:29
you got to pay for a hotel.
39:31
Then we got to do radio row. He is
39:33
famous. Stephen A. Smith came over to
39:35
our table to just to talk because he saw
39:37
him, not us. So, EVERY ANDRE WARD,
39:40
EVERYBODY WAS COMING to our table cuz
39:41
they saw Sway. Now, we were known in the
39:43
boxing world, but he transcends
39:45
everything. Hip hop is global.
39:47
>> Right. True. Right. This dude spent all
39:50
of that money to come there. It was a
39:52
huge fight that weekend. I don't even
39:54
remember the fight. HE DIDN'T EVEN GO TO
39:55
THE FIGHT. I WAS LIKE, "SWAY, I'MMA GIVE
39:57
YOU MY TICKET." He's like, "No, you
39:59
tripping. I'm good. I can't I told you I
40:01
came here just for you."
40:02
>> Just for y'all. Wow. I could not
40:04
understand that. I couldn't understand
40:06
that that you came just to make our show
40:08
better. Sat radio row for us for hours.
40:12
>> Hours. Wow. Some of the guys he HE MIGHT
40:14
NOT HAVE KNOWN WHO HE WAS. WELL, I MET
40:16
CALEB Plant for THE FIRST TIME.
40:19
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT HE DID THAT FOR
40:21
US.
40:21
>> FOR US, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. That was big.
40:23
That was big. Wow, who does that? Nah,
40:25
man. I we we Horse and I, we both
40:27
believe in y'all, man. And
40:30
you you should know that the industry
40:32
isn't just all about industry. People
40:33
should know that. There are some amazing
40:35
people.
40:36
>> are an a a perfect example of the all
40:38
industry people on the industry people.
40:40
Yeah, man. But I'm man, I'm super proud
40:43
and super inspired by y'all. You know,
40:45
you know we got bridge business, you
40:47
know, but we just Bridge ain't over,
40:48
baby.
40:54
I love I love it. Tell people where they
40:56
can find you one more time, I can
40:57
Barack.
40:58
>> Yo, boxing with I on all you know,
41:00
social media platforms. But watch our
41:03
show on Ring Champs official Ring Champs
41:06
on YouTube under All The Smoke
41:08
Productions. Nothing but a big name
41:10
guest. We we got we cooking. And we're
41:12
we're live today. And I'm Boxing Bully
41:14
representing Ring Champs. Boxing Bully
41:16
on all social media. There you go, man.
41:18
Proud of y'all. We'll be Horse, we going
41:20
to be there? Oh, we pulling up. Okay,
41:21
I'm wearing the same thing I got on now,
41:23
too.
41:24
Don't ask me to change. All right. Just
41:26
let me know. Hey, man. I appreciate
41:27
y'all you you two coming up here, man.
41:29
You guys are amazing. Continue success.
41:31
We miss you in New York, by the way.
41:33
Yeah, we'll be we'll be we're going to
41:34
be there the second half of this month.
41:36
So, come see us. Monday. Oh, [ __ ]
41:37
That's Monday? Yeah. Hey, we're going to
41:39
be there Monday, all right? All right.
41:41
Thank you, Sway, for for having us.
41:42
That's all love, man. Your son been
41:43
practicing his bars?
41:45
He nasty, bro.
41:46
>> His son is special.
41:47
>> some work, bro. When
41:49
whenever whenever you ready
41:50
>> No, whenever he ready. Right.
41:54
Yeah, five. He ain't got to do the five
41:55
fingers, but he got to come into the
41:57
VALLEY OF THE HYENAS.
41:59
OKAY. OKAY. HE READY. HE BEEN GETTING
42:02
READY for five years.
42:04
>> him come on. We can do it while we're in
42:05
New York for the next couple of weeks,
42:07
man. Thank you, gentlemen, for coming
42:09
by.
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