Ak & Barak Reveal Boxing's Hidden Struggles 🥊 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

0:00
Ladies and gentlemen, the reason why we
0:03
are here in Vegas today, Horace, can you
0:05
tell them what's the biggest fight of
0:08
of the past decade? Man, Saul Canelo
0:11
Alvarez and Terence "T" Bud Crawford.
0:15
Man, and let me tell you something,
0:18
these boxers are legacy boxers. These
0:21
are people who have put in the grind for
0:23
years, who have earned their opportunity
0:25
to be on this big stage over and over
0:27
again. To me, they uphold the integrity
0:30
that you find in boxing
0:32
and and in the sweet science of boxing
0:34
that attract people like me who are just
0:37
couch watchers, who just like to watch
0:39
boxing
0:40
on the couch. You know, I've watched it
0:41
from the '70s. I like to often brag
0:43
about being there and watching some of
0:46
the biggest fights that ever taken place
0:48
in history as a young man. I got a
0:49
chance to see Muhammad Ali on TV, Sugar
0:52
Ray Leonard on TV, Hagler and Hearns on
0:55
TV. I got a chance to see all of these
0:57
things as a kid. And so, becoming an
0:59
adult and having these platforms and and
1:02
teaming up with my brother Horace, we
1:03
were able to start the one and only
1:06
Bridge Business. There are two
1:08
individuals though that really captured
1:10
our eye early on, back in I want to say
1:13
2019,
1:14
that I really enjoyed watching their
1:16
conversation about boxing. And to me,
1:19
they were people who were they were
1:21
eager, man. They they always been hungry
1:23
to fight get the information out. I knew
1:26
that their passion for the sport ran
1:28
deeper than just seeing people plant
1:30
each other. They wanted those people who
1:31
jumped in the ring be taken care of.
1:34
Wanted to make sure they had health
1:35
benefits. Wanted to make sure they could
1:37
retire properly. Wanted to make sure
1:39
they translated what boxing is all about
1:42
to a mass public. And to me, I haven't
1:45
seen anybody who's done it quite like
1:47
they have. And when you look around now,
1:49
you see everybody talking about boxing.
1:52
Right, you see a thousand podcasters
1:54
just talking about boxing.
1:56
Well, if you ask me, it was these two
1:58
who were in the front lines early on in
2:01
this new digital space that really
2:04
pioneered and helped be vanguards in
2:07
talking about boxing in digital spaces.
2:10
I want to welcome them back to the show,
2:12
the one and only AK AND BARAK.
2:34
I'LL TAKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DOES
2:36
IT. The intros are legendary. You You're
2:38
famous for your intros. Mhm. Seriously,
2:41
and a few other things.
2:49
Hey, but you know, I I I it's it's I
2:52
liken it you could make parallels to how
2:54
we talk about hip-hop.
2:56
Right? Which is a culture that has
2:58
impacted all of our lives and afford us
3:01
to be able to do the things that we love
3:03
and to make a livelihood off of it. And
3:05
then to create energy for other people
3:07
to do the exact same thing. That's how
3:09
everybody in this room is together. It's
3:11
because of hip-hop. We didn't know each
3:13
other when we all got into hip-hop. I
3:15
didn't know Horace, Horace didn't know
3:16
Heather, Heather didn't know me, we
3:17
didn't know Tracy. We still don't know
3:19
Tracy.
3:24
BUT THAT'S HOW I LIKEN WHAT you all are
3:28
doing for boxing. Right, the parallel to
3:31
what we do for hip-hop. Why, AK, to this
3:36
day are you so passionate about talking
3:39
about I watch your interviews from
3:41
yesterday and I'm like, this dude is
3:44
still talking about boxing like nobody
3:47
knows what it is. I just I just love
3:50
First of all, thank you and I I love I
3:52
like I fought 75 amateur fights. I
3:54
was involved in the sport since 5 years
3:56
old, right?
3:57
But this is the only sport where
4:00
it there if you let's say in basketball,
4:03
right? NBA, NFL, these sports you have
4:05
to be elite at every single level to
4:09
maybe a long shot to get drafted to be a
4:12
professional player, right? Boxing is
4:14
different. Like one fight, one punch can
4:17
change your life. You know, if you're in
4:18
the right right position. I love the
4:19
stories, but the only problem is that,
4:22
you know, boxing is not appreciated the
4:25
way it should be, right? Fight fans,
4:27
they want you to go in there and kill
4:28
yourself. They don't care about what
4:30
happens after when the sport is all
4:32
done, when nobody's coming to watch your
4:34
fights, no nobody is nobody's helping
4:37
with your
4:38
health
4:39
benefits. And so, I I want the fans to
4:42
appreciate these fighters risking their
4:44
lives every time in the square circle.
4:47
So, that's what brings me the passion.
4:48
And also, it's it's the greatest sport
4:50
in the world, man. None None like What
4:52
what what about you, Barak?
4:55
Oh, that's it? You just going to say
4:56
that?
4:57
He said that amazing He said that
4:59
amazing speech.
5:01
What do you hope to like what is it that
5:03
boxing need from a commenting position
5:06
that the void that you hope that you all
5:08
are filling? That's a great question.
5:10
First of all, I feel like you you talked
5:13
about hip-hop earlier and I think
5:14
hip-hop is the biggest thing in the
5:15
world. You know what I'm saying? Like my
5:17
memories are like, okay, what song was
5:19
out back then? 1992, yeah, it was Mary
5:22
J. Blige and Nas put me at That's how I
5:24
remember things. You know, but boxing is
5:27
big probably because everybody can
5:28
relate to a fight. You know, everybody
5:31
can relate to being in a fight. Whether
5:32
you've been in a fight or not, you
5:33
wanted to punch somebody in the face.
5:35
You're sick of your boss, you're sick of
5:36
somebody. So, everybody, every sport,
5:38
every athlete, everybody, every artist
5:41
can relate to a fight. It's it's a fight
5:43
for you to get to where you at. And to
5:45
stay where you're at. You know, and I
5:47
feel like us being in boxing, the way
5:50
that we can contribute is give the
5:51
fighters a platform to show their
5:54
personality, show who they are so that
5:57
since they call boxing a dying sport,
6:00
you fall in love with the fighter. You
6:02
fall in love with the personality. Floyd
6:04
Mayweather became famous because of 24/7
6:07
because you got to see that money
6:08
Mayweather mentality, that that that
6:11
charisma. He was chilling with 50 Cent,
6:12
they're riding through his mansion. You
6:14
got to see that. And when you provide
6:16
platforms to show personality, people
6:18
want to see you do whatever you do.
6:21
This is the everywhere. Everybody's
6:22
famous doing whatever. Eating a
6:24
sandwich, people want to see you do it.
6:26
And there's a small percentage of
6:28
fighters that really make money. Like a
6:29
very very small. You know, people have
6:31
this
6:32
perception that, you know, if you're a
6:34
professional boxer, you're doing really
6:36
well. And 99% of fighters don't do well.
6:46
It's in the '90s.
6:48
In my opinion, at least 95% No, 90 You
6:52
know how many boxers there are?
6:54
Professional boxers exist. Thousands and
6:57
thousands. You know how many
6:58
uh make a living from it where they
7:00
don't have to do anything else?
7:02
Very small percentage. Most most boxers,
7:05
professional boxers, most of them have
7:08
to have other jobs because boxing, you
7:10
know, can't maintain their lifestyle
7:12
like even paying the bills.
7:14
It's a thankless sport. It's a thankless
7:16
sport. Horace, you want to jump in?
7:18
That's what I love about these guys
7:19
right here cuz they give you about the
7:20
business behind the sport. You see how
7:22
he said 95% of these guys ain't even
7:23
making no money like that to to survive.
7:26
So, just the fact that everybody think
7:28
that you see Mayweather, Tyson,
7:32
Tyson got tigers running around in his
7:33
yard and stuff like that. But you ain't
7:35
never see a fighter like that since
7:36
Tyson, you know what I mean? So, just
7:38
the fact that they're giving us the
7:39
behind the curtain scene about what's
7:40
going on, that's what I love about
7:42
messing with AK and Barak. AK and Barak,
7:43
man. AK is spelled AK, Barak is spelled
7:46
BARAK. Yeah, stop calling me AK, people.
7:50
I did that one time and he he challenged
7:53
me to a brawl, YOU KNOW.
7:56
SINCE SINCE you did that, people started
7:58
calling me AK.
8:04
But that's how I know when they lie and
8:06
and they say they watch the show. I'm
8:07
like, you don't know what I start the
8:09
show off, it's your boy AK. So, I know
8:11
people be lying about watching the
8:13
Let's talk about your journey and then I
8:15
want to get into this weekend's
8:16
festivities with Canelo Alvarez and
8:19
Terence Crawford.
8:21
What did it take for you guys to get to
8:23
the point you are now? If you could just
8:25
kind of run it up the the timeline. When
8:28
we met you,
8:30
I feel like you were working with
8:31
SiriusXM. Right. Right? And then y'all
8:34
were working on behalf of DAZN, the DAZN
8:37
network. Well, no, when we first met, we
8:40
weren't we we weren't on DAZN yet. 2015
8:43
was when we first got the opportunity to
8:45
host a show on SiriusXM
8:47
for XM for 1 day a week, which is on
8:50
Tuesdays, right? And the journey I mean,
8:52
it's a long journey, but just to try to
8:53
summarize and Barak can add to it, you
8:55
know, we were
8:58
I I was I was a fighter at heart, right?
9:00
I loved boxing. I got a chance to a
9:01
friend of mine had a internet radio
9:03
station in Jersey. He said, AK, you want
9:05
to host a show like for a hobby. I
9:07
wasn't getting paid. It wasn't any There
9:09
wasn't money involved, but I started
9:10
talking about sports, boxing. And then
9:12
Zab Judah had a fight in Jersey. I had
9:15
him on the show and I
9:16
sold it like it was a big successful
9:18
internet radio show. It was about five
9:20
people listening. But he came on the
9:21
show anyway. Zab's my my guy. And then
9:24
from there, we we was grinding with
9:25
WorldStarHipHop.com
9:27
telling And I'm going to put it out
9:29
there. We were telling boxing
9:31
promotional companies when we fill out
9:33
the media credential that uh I work for
9:35
WorldStarHipHop.com because they they
9:37
were doing so well.
9:39
They would give They would give you a
9:40
media credential, but we weren't working
9:42
for them. All we did was record videos
9:44
and send it to them hoping they would
9:46
post it, right? So, we could it could
9:48
legitimize us saying we work for them.
9:50
And
9:51
it didn't for a while, but one time we
9:53
did an interview with Paulie and they
9:55
put it on the
9:56
It did numbers. It went viral. And then
9:59
it seemed like we really did work for
10:00
them. But we actually I'm letting it
10:01
known that we did not work for
10:03
WorldStar. What you had to do. That's
10:05
what we had to do to get access to to to
10:08
go into the fight. We would come to
10:09
Vegas on our own dime. For 5 years we
10:12
spent our own money to go to fights, to
10:15
pay hotel rooms, just to be in the mix.
10:18
I mean my my son's mother and I we were
10:19
together at the time. She would she
10:21
would say like, "Bro, I mean this is a
10:22
hobby. You're spending money. We're not
10:24
making any money. Like what are you
10:26
doing?" The vision was there. It's hard
10:29
you know it it was hard but it it took a
10:31
long time. But 2015 was when it all
10:33
started.
10:34
>> wrap that up.
10:37
It was a good story. Hey listen, you I
10:39
gave him a 10-year story in like 2
10:42
minutes.
10:44
You got to be locked in. And Paulie
10:45
Malignaggi, right? Okay, you know folks
10:48
may not know who that is, right? And so
10:51
and so y'all lied to get into media
10:53
events, right? That's what you got from
10:55
That's what you got from me lying.
10:57
I just found out that he was lying
10:59
last year. I'm not lying.
11:01
I THOUGHT WE REALLY WERE. HE LIED to me
11:04
too.
11:06
HE'S SO SERIOUS.
11:07
>> AN HONEST PERSON. I couldn't tell him.
11:10
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
11:12
>> WE WAS. UH YO and so so and then
11:15
we met I remember going to Gleason's.
11:18
Yep, Gleason's gym. Barack. Yes. Yes.
11:21
And and
11:22
Shawn Porter was training for a fight.
11:25
I'm not sure who he had coming up next.
11:27
It might have been Berto I think. I
11:29
think It could have been It could have
11:30
been Andre Berto. That was an amazing
11:32
fight. Stopped Berto. First person to
11:34
really stop Berto. Uh-huh. Yeah, that
11:36
was crazy. We met in Gleason's gym.
11:39
That's right. And then where were you at
11:41
this stage when we met at Glea- cuz I
11:43
want people to hear how many platforms
11:45
y'all had to jump to land with all the
11:48
smoke fight. And after you after you
11:50
express yourself I'm going to tell you
11:51
how we ended up at SiriusXM, which is a
11:53
very interesting story and it's going to
11:54
teach people to not listen to other
11:57
people. But go ahead. At that time at
11:59
that time we our show got canceled on
12:01
SiriusXM. You know they wanted like to
12:03
more MMA. You know but they said, "You
12:06
know what? We want to cancel the show
12:07
but we want to keep you guys as hosts.
12:08
So whenever whenever we need you we want
12:10
to use you. So that gave us the SiriusXM
12:13
brand still. So we would go to these
12:15
fights, be everywhere. And then
12:17
eventually a friend of mine from
12:19
Brooklyn
12:20
knew 50 Cent. He was like, "Listen, 50
12:22
Cent they need something on
12:23
thisis50.com.
12:25
Um I I want to bring you up there." I
12:27
said, "Well you you know I'm doing
12:28
something with Ak. This is you know we
12:30
we started something. We we got a buzz
12:32
but we don't have anything at the
12:34
moment. We had a meeting with 50 Cent.
12:36
Good brother to this day. I don't care
12:38
what anybody say. He was good to us. You
12:41
know what I'm saying? He was good to us
12:42
and he's very knowledgeable about
12:44
boxing. He's just a wise individual
12:46
anyway. And he gave us a shot and it
12:49
just blew up. Yeah, I mean the show blew
12:51
up. We had Showtime, HBO sending us
12:53
fighters. Everybody. It was amazing. So
12:55
that's where we were at that time when I
12:58
met you. Okay.
12:59
>> And shout out to everybody at G-Unit
13:01
like Renee, Mario. Everybody over there
13:04
showed showed us love. I mean we had a
13:05
4-hour conversation about boxing the
13:07
first time we met him. And he said, "Yo,
13:09
you guys should start tomorrow this
13:10
show." And that's where the Sweet
13:12
Scientists started at
13:14
at thisis50. But when we first in 2015,
13:17
I'll never forget this. We were at the
13:18
Barclays Center
13:20
with a credential we probably lied to
13:22
get, right? They lied.
13:24
We were in in the back where media they
13:26
they show I mean they they give people
13:28
food, water. So I see a guy with a media
13:31
credential it says SiriusXM, right?
13:33
Combat Sports Channel. I don't remember
13:34
what it was Rush 93 at the time or
13:36
something like that. So I asked a guy
13:38
that I knew who was a friend of mine who
13:41
had spent time at SiriusXM, right? So I
13:43
said, "Hey, who's that?" He says, "Oh,
13:46
he's like program director for for the
13:47
Combat Sports Channel." I said, "Yo, I
13:50
want to introduce myself. Let him know
13:51
what Barack and I doing." This is what
13:53
he tells me.
13:55
Uh and they kind of stuck in their ways.
13:57
They have two hosts that are little
13:59
older. You know they don't want anything
14:00
innovative. Y'all energy is too young.
14:02
It's too too much of the culture.
14:05
Don't waste your time.
14:07
So I went back and sat in my seat
14:11
uh you know watching the fights. And I
14:13
had an epiphany. I said, "Man, F what
14:15
this dude is talking about." I'm going
14:16
to walk back to the media room. Luckily
14:18
enough he was the only one there about
14:20
to head back to his seat.
14:21
>> Wow.
14:22
>> And I said,
14:23
"Hey, my name is Ak."
14:25
He says, "My name is Ricky Bonney." I
14:27
said, "I see you work for Sirius. I
14:28
said, "Do you have a second a minute,
14:30
right?" He said, "Sure." So Barack and I
14:32
had recorded a little segment of this
14:34
little internet radio show we were
14:35
doing. So I had something on my phone to
14:37
show people. We created We made it look
14:40
like it was a show. We was up all night
14:42
me and the editor trying to piece this
14:43
together. It looked like we really had a
14:45
show that was on Hulu.
14:46
>> But I had something to show him.
14:49
And and as soon as I showed him he spent
14:52
a minute. He was like, "Yo, this is
14:53
exactly what we were looking for." So
14:55
had I listened to the gentleman that
14:57
said, "Don't waste your time." We
14:59
literally would not be here today. So
15:01
The Zone wouldn't happen.
15:03
This is 50 nothing. But I had to go
15:06
back. God's plan is God's plan. He was
15:08
probably telling the truth but that was
15:10
his story. That was his experience. He
15:13
tried to get on and they said, "You're
15:15
too young. You're too this. You're too
15:17
that." Then guys the same age came with
15:20
different swag with a different
15:22
anointing from God. Yes. That's what
15:24
happened. Praise God.
15:26
Praise God.
15:28
Praise God.
15:30
Now you guys are at all premier fight. I
15:34
don't feel right if I don't see you guys
15:36
at a fight, right? It don't feel right
15:38
if I don't see Ak and Barack
15:40
interviewing some of the biggest boxing
15:43
names that the sport has to offer. But
15:46
I'll be remiss if we didn't mention
15:48
Stack and Matt Barnes and how the
15:51
relationship with the All the Smoke
15:53
umbrella um began. Well well I I'll say
15:56
this. Like when we signed to The Zone in
15:58
2018, which is they came with a billion
16:00
dollars to America and they said, you
16:03
know they they they sold out for us and
16:04
they said, "Whatever you guys are doing
16:05
at thisis50, we want y'all to host
16:08
our flagship show at The Zone." And
16:11
enough money for us to say 50 everything
16:14
everything was great. Thank you for
16:15
everything. We got to move on, right?
16:17
It's life-changing money. And then we
16:19
started but we got comfortable, right?
16:21
Under the pay you know behind a paywall
16:23
The Zone was was traveling the world
16:25
online broadcast, hosting a daily show.
16:28
But we didn't own anything, right? Like
16:30
if
16:31
network decides to go a different
16:32
direction then you're back to square one
16:35
with nothing. So for 5-6 years we did
16:38
that. And I think about a year ago
16:39
Barack and I were brainstorming. We
16:41
said, "Bro, we got to shift here. Like
16:43
if The Zone decides to go in a different
16:45
direction we're effed, right?" So we
16:48
said, "We have to start and bring out
16:50
not do the daily show with them anymore
16:52
and bring our show somewhere else." And
16:54
that's when we started brainstorming.
16:56
And All the Smoke Matt and Stack teamed
16:59
up with Brian Daley who was an exec at
17:01
Showtime and they formed All the Smoke
17:04
Fight. And Barack and I said, "Wait,
17:07
that that's the home. It's just the
17:09
right fit for us." And we had to
17:10
negotiate for 6 months but it's a
17:13
partnership where Ak and Barack own have
17:15
ownership to Ring Champs, right? And
17:17
they're building our platform from
17:19
scratch. They have an amazing team. And
17:21
now we own Ring Champs with All the
17:24
Smoke. Shout out to them.
17:25
Shout out to them. The YouTube the
17:27
channel is growing.
17:29
And shout out to them. Yeah, man. Yo,
17:31
All the Smoke on my that's my favorite
17:34
organization. They're pioneers in this
17:36
podcast. in the podcast space that but
17:39
when I say organization how they
17:42
enterprised their brand All the Smoke.
17:45
And I mean they are the coolest dudes
17:49
in person. I mean I I can't think of it.
17:51
Stack was behind me when we was at the
17:54
Canelo-Charlo fight. Oh wow. Yo, what up
17:57
Sway? Hey man.
18:00
MATT MATT MATT AND I WAS AT a Snoop
18:02
listening once recently.
18:04
Yeah and so I'm really
18:06
excited, inspired and proud of those
18:08
guys. But it also has brought you guys
18:12
even more visibility. Yes. 100%. I mean
18:14
they're real businessmen to the to the
18:17
core. And one of the guys Brian Daley,
18:19
he was a Showtime guy. Okay.
18:21
>> so all of the stuff that we used to
18:22
watch on Showtime he was behind all of
18:25
that. And they negotiated somehow to
18:27
take all of the Showtime intellectual
18:29
property. You mean their Instagram,
18:31
their digital platforms.
18:32
>> All of it. YouTube, everything over to
18:35
All the Smoke Productions because he's
18:37
the one that built it anyway. And now
18:39
for us to be a part of that. We used to
18:40
always say, "Damn, you know what I'm
18:42
saying? We we have we built a name in
18:43
this sport but if we had a team I
18:45
believe we go further." And that team is
18:48
All the Smoke because we've been with
18:49
them 7 months and got 14 million views
18:52
with a brand new page that we started
18:54
called Ring Champs. Ring Champs. Almost
18:57
at 30,000 subscribers and it's scary
19:00
because you stay watching the
19:01
subscribers like when is this growing?
19:02
And then certain interviews with you
19:04
know Ryan Garcia, Terence Crawford and
19:06
they started going and going. So it's
19:08
still we still got a long way to go but
19:11
according to the experts YouTube and the
19:13
team been saying we're growing at a
19:14
rapid rapid He won't stop either.
19:17
And and and then what you've done in the
19:19
past will keep living forward. And so
19:22
And and shout out to Stephen Jackson.
19:23
Stack was one of those guys early on cuz
19:26
he loved boxing. So he'll be at all the
19:27
fights. And he he told me a couple of
19:29
years ago he said, "You know when
19:31
Showtime Showtime's done with boxing
19:33
we're going to start something." I guess
19:34
they already knew something was
19:35
happening. Like we want you and Barack
19:37
involved. Don't worry about it. So he
19:39
planted that seed early. And then you
19:41
know Matt Barnes, super smart
19:43
businessman as well. He wanted us on
19:44
board. And that whole team is
19:46
phenomenal. I'm happy where we are.
19:47
Look, The Zone did a lot for us giving
19:50
us global visibility. Yeah. You know but
19:52
at times it was a struggle for us to
19:54
create what we wanted to create.
19:56
>> they I mean they did a lot for you, but
19:57
I I think in the end I
20:00
it didn't feel like to the onlooker that
20:02
they were treating you
20:04
as you should be treated. They Amen. I
20:06
don't it didn't feel like
20:08
It was
20:09
it was a beautiful vehicle. It was a
20:11
beautiful vehicle to get to where we had
20:12
to go and and they did a tremendous job.
20:15
I think at the time was they was coming
20:16
into
20:17
a market where streaming wasn't
20:21
you know, it wasn't accepted really.
20:22
Like people want to fight on
20:23
pay-per-view. Guys like Broner was like,
20:25
"I ain't fighting on no app." You know
20:27
what I mean? So, we had already built a
20:29
name with 50 in the boxing world. So,
20:32
they they needed us to introduce them to
20:34
the boxing world. And now
20:36
>> they're the biggest platform right now.
20:39
Yeah. DAZN Yeah, no, DAZN is great.
20:44
Listen, we still do stuff for DAZN. We
20:46
still do stuff for DAZN though like
20:48
Overtime Boxing.
20:51
I'm saying to the onlooker cuz I saw the
20:53
chance Yo, listen, we used to have that
20:55
you know, DAZN come on our show when
20:57
nobody knew what DAZN was
20:59
when it was launching. Right. And um and
21:02
you know, I I've had really nasty
21:05
experiences
21:06
since
21:07
and I I think they might have forgot.
21:10
They they forgot. I think they might
21:12
have forgot. So, God bless what they've
21:14
done for you or what you've done for
21:16
them. Right. Thank you. But you can't
21:19
you can't be nasty in the end. I won't
21:21
get into details. But what was the
21:23
owner's name?
21:23
>> You know what? You going to make Horse
21:25
say it? Shut up, boy.
21:32
I
21:34
think I like what they did for I'm not
21:36
as a platform cool, but I had some nasty
21:38
experiences with them. And then I used
21:40
to call y'all and ask you how come y'all
21:41
not doing certain things. Right. Right.
21:43
I ain't making this into a negative. It
21:44
was a No, no, I get that.
21:46
Can I if you if you don't mind, I want
21:48
to shout Charlamagne too who speaks
21:50
highly of you. He was one of those that
21:52
also had us on his platform and always
21:54
talked about DAZN needing us and what we
21:57
did for them. But a lot of those guys
21:59
are Brits. They're British. They don't
22:01
really understand the culture here, you
22:02
know? So, I don't completely fault them.
22:05
But they did they did I guess help
22:07
launch DAZN.
22:08
>> You know what it is? So, I remember what
22:10
Sway is talking about and I remember
22:12
seeing DAZN and Sway was like, "Yo, we
22:14
going to bring some guy." And we
22:15
couldn't even pronounce the name. Like
22:17
Tracy and I we was like, "What is this
22:19
DAZN?" Like
22:20
what is this?
22:22
And we Sway invited them over. Let's
22:24
come on, man. We going to get this the
22:25
shot. They're starting this boxing
22:27
thing. And I watched it grow. Like I
22:29
watched you guys. I watched the company
22:31
grow. And then when it's time to do
22:33
certain things and Sway and Horse in
22:35
particular go back and say, "Hey, can
22:38
you know, this has happened and that's
22:40
going on." And you treat people as if I
22:43
got what I needed from you already.
22:45
>> Mhm. Let let it go to the side. That
22:46
stays with you. The same way somebody
22:48
can do something kind for you like you
22:50
guys said, "I'll never forget that."
22:52
It's the same way you could do something
22:53
very nasty and people never forget it.
22:56
So, Sway that that I witnessed what he's
23:00
talking about without mentioning names.
23:02
And and so there you that's his
23:04
experience. You the same way you spoke
23:06
about someone telling you that's not
23:08
what they're looking for and Barack said
23:10
well, that was that that's Sway and
23:11
Horse's experience with that. And so,
23:14
yeah, it's unfortunate. I definitely
23:16
understand that. I just feel like and
23:18
and I have my moments of of negative
23:21
interactions with a whole bunch of
23:22
platforms and people whatever.
23:24
But I kind of feel like those are
23:26
blessings as well. You know what I'm
23:28
saying? And that's why you never hear me
23:29
talk bad about anybody or anything.
23:31
Yeah. Yeah. I love y'all. Let me say
23:33
that. I love what they provided. Y'all
23:36
symbiotic mutually
23:38
you know, beneficial relationship.
23:41
I like what she said. They get what they
23:43
want out of you and then
23:45
And then I don't want
23:46
I don't want
23:47
I don't want nothing from them. Even a
23:49
personal thing.
23:51
I've been in this business longer than
23:52
DAZN.
23:53
>> But you got to think about this. That's
23:54
a fact. Think about this on me. We got
23:56
into British boxing because of Ak and
23:58
Barack. I I don't know none of the
23:59
fighters over there at all. And I used
24:02
to I used to text
24:03
I used to text
24:05
Barack all the time like, "Yo, I really
24:07
don't know these guys right here. Give
24:09
me some insight on these type of guys."
24:11
So, watching these guys and especially
24:13
like in the ring and after the ring
24:14
after the fight talk to these people
24:16
gave me insight of some of the British
24:17
fighters and that's what brought me to
24:19
DAZN actually.
24:21
He said Barack is is a great dude and he
24:23
always finds a positive and stuff. But
24:24
the reality is that when we joined DAZN,
24:27
the team that was excited about us that
24:29
entire regime is no longer there.
24:30
>> Yeah.
24:31
It's no longer there. It's a whole new
24:34
No, no, I'm saying I'm I'm not throwing
24:36
any shots at anybody. I'm saying they
24:38
they were
24:39
the squad that DAZN launched with in
24:41
America effed us heavy and they we had
24:44
support. And then people started to get
24:47
fired and leave and then next thing you
24:48
know, you look up it's a whole new squad
24:51
Yeah. that don't eff with us the same
24:53
way. You know what I mean? And there's
24:54
still a couple there that respect us and
24:56
look, shout out to Turki Alalshikh and
24:58
the Crown Prince and all that for
25:00
bringing breathing life into the sport,
25:02
right? And they've been with with DAZN
25:04
and and and have done a lot. That's why
25:06
we're getting this fight, right?
25:07
>> Okay, let me let me say this just for
25:08
clarity. I believe what DAZN has done
25:11
for boxing is excellent as a company.
25:14
If I could go a little deeper, I just
25:16
saw one of the
25:18
executives treat some women Yes.
25:21
>> Oh, snap.
25:22
>> very badly. Mhm. Now, that's different.
25:24
And I was sitting right there and I'm
25:26
looking at the person and they have no
25:28
idea that I'm the same person that years
25:31
ago
25:32
you know, helped them. helped you know,
25:34
whatever helped or you know, promote
25:36
okay. And it wasn't about me.
25:38
It was just who are you as a human being
25:40
where you talking to boxing fans and
25:43
treating them like this. Mhm. That's
25:45
what I'm saying. It has nothing to do
25:46
with It has nothing to do with with
25:49
y'all relationship. So, I don't want you
25:50
to feel like you have to defend Right.
25:52
>> them or what I'm saying. I saw some [ __ ]
25:55
so nasty Ak. Really? Yeah, that it was
25:58
like
25:58
>> Well, we'll talk off there. I want to
25:59
know who that was. I'll tell you. Yeah,
26:01
man. Anyway, but guy you know, salute to
26:03
y'all though. Let's let's
26:07
We got a lot of people on the phone
26:09
line. We're just talking. Frequency
26:10
Friday. Let's go to line three. We got
26:12
Chew on the line from Louisiana. Chew,
26:14
what
26:17
What up, family? What up? What up? What
26:19
up? What up? What's going on, bro?
26:22
Hey, uh real quick. Last week on the
26:25
show,
26:26
uh Big Horse made a hot take. He said
26:29
he thinks the winner of this fight
26:30
tomorrow
26:32
Mayweather's going to come back and
26:34
fight. If that's the case,
26:39
I know I know that Mayweather likes to
26:41
steal the limelight. Like he just put
26:43
out something about him and Mike Tyson
26:45
about the fight coincidentally when when
26:48
we're trying to watch Bud versus Canelo.
26:50
So,
26:51
I would say no, BUT THAT'S NOT
26:54
FAR-FETCHED.
26:57
IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
27:00
>> but I don't think Mayweather is in shape
27:01
to fight a real boxer that's great
27:04
today. You know what I mean? Mayweather
27:06
has his time and he's TBE whatever, but
27:08
nah, he can't do that. He can't compete.
27:10
>> He can't compete at this level. Don't
27:11
think he would be able to take either of
27:12
those guys at this Hell no. Hell no.
27:14
>> Not now. Not now. Not going on 50 years
27:17
old.
27:17
>> get killed.
27:18
>> Yeah, he had his time. He had his time
27:20
when he was the man. Okay. Chew, any
27:23
other questions?
27:25
I'm good, man. That's all I had. We
27:26
appreciate you, bro.
27:28
Thank you, Sway. You got no citizen.
27:31
He's he won't get into the ring to
27:33
survive. Like he won't even put himself
27:34
in that position. He can't he can't win.
27:36
He can't beat Canelo. He can't beat Bud
27:38
at this stage.
27:39
>> He said it himself. He said, "I I put
27:41
the work in the game. I have a legacy
27:43
already. I I'm not going to fight real
27:44
boxers. Okay. You know, I'm going to
27:46
fight other guys." That's why he's
27:47
fighting everybody else.
27:48
Okay, cool. Tracy? When you initially
27:50
Barack, you had mentioned um Floyd and
27:53
you were talking about how fans fall in
27:55
love with the fighter and the
27:56
personality, right? And they want to
27:59
follow a story and they're drawn to
28:01
charisma. For both you and Ak, if you
28:04
were managing a fighter right now, what
28:06
would be y'all blueprint for building
28:09
him or her into a star?
28:12
Oh, that's a good question. There's so
28:13
many you never know what people are
28:15
attracted to sometimes. I would tell a
28:17
fighter and I tell these young fighters,
28:19
man, stay humble. Stay humble. That's
28:22
it. Let your talent speak for itself.
28:25
And let your and be real with your
28:27
personality. Don't turn it on. Don't
28:29
don't turn on and try to create a new
28:31
persona or whatever like that. Yeah,
28:33
Floyd got away with doing that, but
28:34
Floyd was so super disciplined at what
28:36
he was doing. He didn't get caught up in
28:38
that persona. I see guys that try to
28:40
mimic Floyd and create a persona and
28:43
they get lost in it. And then they and
28:45
they and they career kind of down
28:47
slides. You know what I mean? So, don't
28:49
do that. Be humble. Keep your original
28:52
personality and let your talent speak
28:55
for itself.
28:56
>> Yeah, I mean I think the most important
28:57
thing is I would have to make sure that
28:59
person can really fight fight right
29:01
before putting any energy into it cuz a
29:03
lot of people look great in the gym, but
29:05
when they're tested, you know, true
29:06
colors come out. So,
29:08
you know, I I agree with Barack. I think
29:10
you have to stay true to who you are.
29:12
But you also have to push people that
29:15
may not have a big personality at least
29:17
to be expressive whether it's on social
29:19
media. Like stop stop saying, "Oh, I
29:22
don't like Instagram. I don't do social.
29:24
I don't talk." So, you don't want to be
29:25
a star. You don't want the world to know
29:27
you. Like I get it that fighting does
29:30
the talking. Like even Terence who's the
29:32
best fighter in the world isn't
29:34
bragadocious and outspoken, but if you
29:36
get to know him, he's funny. Yeah. He a
29:39
heck of funny. He is.
29:41
He he has a great personality. He's a
29:43
country boy from Nebraska. Loves his
29:45
kids. But to Barack's point, you have to
29:47
see that. So, Bud's been more expressive
29:50
lately and he's been So, you have to
29:52
express
29:52
>> there to bring that out of them. We're
29:54
not trying to actually be different.
29:56
We'll bring it out you. Don't worry.
29:57
We'll give you the platform to bring
29:58
that out. And even with Bud, if he
30:00
wasn't blackballed by certain promoters,
30:03
he would have been big and famous years
30:05
ago.
30:05
>> did he get blackballed to your
30:07
understanding?
30:07
>> He was dangerous.
30:09
>> you mean?
30:09
>> He He was a He wasn't popular, so he's a
30:13
high-risk, low-reward.
30:15
>> Mhm. You fight him. Yes, he had a strap.
30:17
He had a championship title at 147, but
30:20
there were other guys too that had
30:22
titles as well.
30:23
>> blackballed him.
30:24
It was PBC.
30:26
I believe that PBC
30:28
>> PBC Al Haymon. Al Haymon's team. I
30:30
believe that You know why? Because they
30:32
had SO MANY FIGHTERS
30:34
>> THEY HAD so many fighters that they felt
30:36
like they didn't need him at the time.
30:38
They had Errol Spence, they had Ugas,
30:39
they had Keith Thurman, they had Manny
30:41
Pacquiao. They had everybody except
30:44
Terence Crawford.
30:45
>> So, they was having fun fighting each
30:47
other and he was kept on the outside.
30:49
>> And he couldn't get the big fights. So,
30:51
you don't blame that on him.
30:52
>> waited He waited to I'm sorry.
30:54
>> not Bob Arum's fault either like for his
30:55
top rank.
30:56
>> No.
30:57
No way. I know he took the blame, but it
31:00
really wasn't and they was mad at
31:01
Terence for resigning resigning with Bob
31:04
Arum, but if somebody changed your life,
31:07
you going to have some kind of loyalty
31:08
hopefully.
31:09
>> And it's not a shot at Al Haymon
31:11
disclaimer like Al has done phenomenal
31:13
things for black fighters. He's black
31:15
and his
31:15
>> He's changed their Yes, he's changed
31:17
their lives. We've been support in
31:19
support of Al Haymon for so many years,
31:21
but I'm just speaking factual. That's
31:23
what they did to Terence Crawford.
31:25
>> It's business. It's like if you got all
31:26
of these fighters, why even include
31:28
Terence? So, to him I guess it's smart
31:30
business, but to fans we like Nah, get
31:33
him involved. So, he had to wait till he
31:35
was in his mid-30s to get that big
31:37
Spence fight. Late 30s
31:39
>> Late 30s. Two things that
31:42
I just said that stood out. Number one,
31:44
you said Terence Crawford who is the
31:46
greatest fighter best fighter in the
31:48
world.
31:48
>> Number one pound-for-pound.
31:50
>> Pound-for-pound leads me to believe that
31:52
you think he can go all the way with the
31:54
win against Canelo Alvarez. Is that
31:57
true?
31:59
So, I've been trying for the last 2
32:02
months to not make predictions for this
32:03
fight cuz
32:05
we're friends with both fighters. I
32:06
would say we're closer to Bud for sure.
32:08
He a friend outside of boxing, you know
32:10
what I mean? I love the guy and his
32:12
family and all of that. So, I'm going to
32:13
be a little biased because of that. But
32:15
if I had to take all that away and just
32:18
speak from a boxing analyst standpoint,
32:21
I think that Canelo is a phenomenal
32:24
fighter and he's very tricky, very
32:26
smart.
32:27
He doesn't get enough credit for how
32:29
skilled he is because people talk about
32:30
his power.
32:32
I think Bud has a tough task ahead of
32:34
him,
32:35
but the size difference that everybody
32:38
is talking about, the weight, it's not
32:39
going to be a significant factor
32:41
Saturday night. Bud is in my opinion is
32:44
is strong, probably just as strong as as
32:47
a Canelo, just as big. He just is losing
32:51
less weight for this fight. He's not
32:52
eating to go up to 168. Walks around at
32:55
180. So, he's just losing less weight to
32:57
meet 168. I think he will shock the
33:00
world on Saturday night and I think
33:03
Terence wins
33:05
a fight
33:07
against Canelo Alvarez.
33:09
I've never heard Ak
33:11
say that.
33:12
Amazing, man. Thank you. Get that round
33:14
of applause.
33:15
>> Yes.
33:16
Cuz our opinion is the exact same.
33:18
>> And he's hoping
33:19
He's hoping Canelo don't hear this. Yes.
33:22
>> He's hoping.
33:23
>> Well, what do you think?
33:25
Put him on the spot. Yeah, I I
33:27
understand what Ak is saying and I agree
33:29
with him. I just feel like in a fight
33:31
where you got two genera
33:33
generational greats, anything can
33:35
happen.
33:36
There was a time when Terence Crawford
33:38
was like when we joked, yeah, you going
33:40
to move up and fight Canelo, he'd be
33:42
like, hell no, I ain't doing that. But
33:44
then when the option really became a
33:46
real thing, he's like, oh yeah, I'm
33:48
going to take on that task and I'm going
33:50
to do it because he's so competitive and
33:51
he really believes in himself. But then
33:53
you got another guy who's a He's already
33:55
great. He could retire right now, be a
33:57
Hall of Famer, and that's Canelo and he
33:59
has a lot of confidence in himself as
34:00
well, but he even says in in the lead-up
34:03
to the fight, he said, yeah, Terence
34:05
does a lot of things better than me, but
34:07
I'm different and when he get in the
34:08
ring, he's going to see that I'm
34:09
different. Both of these guys are super
34:11
special. You can argue both. Most people
34:14
would say Terence is a better boxer.
34:15
Yeah.
34:16
>> But
34:17
but Canelo is bigger and and used to
34:19
being in that weight class. So, he has
34:21
an advantage.
34:22
>> He's a favorite still. Still a favorite
34:24
in this fight.
34:25
>> Absolutely, but Terence is so special,
34:26
he's only a little bit of favorite. And
34:28
he's getting paid. I'm just so happy
34:30
that Terence Crawford is getting paid
34:33
real big money for this.
34:34
>> Okay, man. Man. But Canelo's been
34:37
getting paid.
34:37
>> Canelo's been getting paid. Herschel,
34:39
you wanted to chime in?
34:41
Well, I'm going with Terence Crawford
34:42
straight up. I know Canelo, we met him,
34:44
we stand with the family and stuff like
34:46
that, but I feel like um
34:48
Bud got a lot to prove and I think that
34:50
Canelo never I think he's
34:52
underestimating Bud for being a smaller
34:54
guy. I don't think that he could you
34:55
know take the power and I think that
34:56
it's like Floyd 2.0 with Bud. Mhm. Oh,
35:00
wow. You know, he got the power. Yeah,
35:02
cuz he cuz Floyd could box, but he
35:04
didn't have the knockout power that that
35:06
Bud have. I think that Bud could hit you
35:07
with either hand, left or right and I
35:09
think if Bud go southpaw, I think Canelo
35:11
going to have a problem. Bud is one of
35:13
the only people probably in boxing that
35:15
I've noticed that in their late 30s are
35:18
even even better than what they used to
35:20
be or just as good and has never
35:23
diminished at all. Good. Not not even
35:25
Muhammad Ali, like nobody.
35:26
>> Yeah. But but
35:27
>> All these fighters will get besides
35:29
Floyd, but he couldn't knock people out
35:30
at that age. So, even he diminished, but
35:32
was still great. But It's after he got
35:35
the belt. But but you know, Terence
35:37
didn't fight as much because he was
35:39
blackballed, one fight a year at one
35:41
point. No, I I don't even think it's
35:43
that cuz you know he has 41 fights.
35:46
Yeah. So, it's not like he wasn't
35:47
fighting. It's just He's just special.
35:49
Genetics are different with certain
35:50
people. He's clean. He He doesn't smoke
35:53
just like Floyd didn't smoke, didn't
35:55
drink. Literally, all he does is boxing
35:58
and family. Boxing and family. You know,
36:00
I I Canelo I I and I had to tell you
36:03
know when you talk about this when he
36:04
came on our show for the first time and
36:06
and I know Ak played a significant role
36:08
in getting him on different platforms
36:10
and and shout out to Charlemagne. We
36:12
would see him at fights as well.
36:14
Um
36:16
I had to tell Canelo that I'm team
36:17
Crawford. You told him?
36:19
Wow.
36:21
What was his reaction? Was he coming on
36:22
the show again? Nah, he was I think nah,
36:25
and and if I didn't want it to be about
36:27
that because I'm such a Canelo fan, I
36:30
just was honest about that. It wasn't a
36:32
big deal and he respected it.
36:35
>> there for that and yes, he did respect
36:36
that. You was truthful, but you gave him
36:38
his flowers as well cuz he deserved it.
36:40
>> Yes. Yeah, and I was just if you have to
36:42
pick one or the other, I'm going to I'm
36:44
team Crawford, right? But I have really
36:47
enjoyed sitting talking with Canelo,
36:49
man. I felt like when I looked in his
36:51
eyes, I just saw so much legacy, so much
36:54
history, so much boxing and the way he,
36:58
you know, and I think you guys could get
37:00
credit to the the way he expresses
37:01
himself now. Canelo wasn't even speaking
37:03
English.
37:04
>> Nah, that's true. You know, and now he
37:06
came up there and was cracking jokes the
37:08
whole nine. Yeah, may maybe we had a
37:10
little bit to do with helping him be a
37:13
just feel a little bit better about
37:14
being a speaking English cuz privately
37:16
like we'd be there together. Um we
37:18
brought a barber to his hotel room to to
37:20
cut his hair. He's speaking English.
37:23
He's speaking English to me. He just
37:25
wasn't comfortable enough to put it out
37:26
there.
37:26
>> saying it in public and then all of a
37:28
sudden his first mother effer publicly
37:31
Yeah. and he went viral.
37:32
>> And I remember literally telling him
37:34
like, yo, your English is good enough.
37:35
Talk like to the public in English and
37:38
that changed his career.
37:40
>> Yeah, changed his career. Shout out to
37:41
Canelo, man. Get that man a huge huge
37:44
applause for just representing boxing.
37:46
He's also been great to us. Like he
37:48
Whenever time we needed him on the show,
37:50
he came.
37:51
>> through. Yeah, man, salute to him. It's
37:52
going to be a awesome fight. The second
37:55
question I'm not going to get into. I'm
37:56
going to talk to y'all about that off
37:57
the air. Okay. It was something that
37:59
that Ak had said. I know you guys are
38:01
doing something big today. Yes.
38:03
>> And could can people see what you're
38:05
doing later on this afternoon?
38:06
>> Yes, absolutely. All the smoke fight is
38:09
a big YouTube channel. Like I said, we
38:11
took over Showtimes property and now all
38:14
the smoke is in the game and we're one
38:15
of the intellectual properties on that.
38:17
We call Ring Champs from 12 to 1. Uh
38:20
this IS PACIFIC TIME. WE WILL be live.
38:23
We going to have Kamel Mouton, we going
38:25
to have hopefully Sway going to come
38:27
through.
38:27
>> coming at noon. Herschel coming at noon.
38:30
Lennox Lewis is supposed to come. Hamzah
38:31
Shiraz, like we got some people coming
38:33
through. So, we going to squeeze in as
38:35
many people in within that hour live to
38:38
hype people up for this fight.
38:39
>> What time y'all want us there? We going
38:40
on at 12? What time y'all want us there?
38:42
You come at 12. You You trump everybody.
38:44
Bird. Every time you come in here I'm
38:46
not going to hold you down. If you get
38:47
up Lennox Lewis Cuz I don't know if I'm
38:49
telling Lennox
38:49
LEWIS TO GET UP.
38:51
YOU KNOW.
38:52
>> Lennox Lewis, move over.
38:53
Yeah, I guess just come within that
38:55
block sometime whenever y'all
38:56
comfortable, but I guess the earlier the
38:57
better. Yeah, man. Yeah, I you know, I I
39:01
we we got such a beautiful history and I
39:03
remember coming to Vegas
39:05
>> Yes.
39:06
>> and Barack always brings this up.
39:07
>> I'm sorry.
39:08
>> Yeah, but I came out, flew to Vegas
39:11
because I wanted to help him get the
39:14
type of talent on that platform that it
39:17
deserves.
39:18
>> Stop, let me tell it. Let me tell it.
39:19
I'm not doing it right.
39:20
>> This guy This guy, we had a show and we
39:23
were doing okay. This guy literally paid
39:25
his own money
39:27
to come to Vegas. That's a flight. Then
39:29
you got to pay for a hotel.
39:31
Then we got to do radio row. He is
39:33
famous. Stephen A. Smith came over to
39:35
our table to just to talk because he saw
39:37
him, not us. So, EVERY ANDRE WARD,
39:40
EVERYBODY WAS COMING to our table cuz
39:41
they saw Sway. Now, we were known in the
39:43
boxing world, but he transcends
39:45
everything. Hip hop is global.
39:47
>> Right. True. Right. This dude spent all
39:50
of that money to come there. It was a
39:52
huge fight that weekend. I don't even
39:54
remember the fight. HE DIDN'T EVEN GO TO
39:55
THE FIGHT. I WAS LIKE, "SWAY, I'MMA GIVE
39:57
YOU MY TICKET." He's like, "No, you
39:59
tripping. I'm good. I can't I told you I
40:01
came here just for you."
40:02
>> Just for y'all. Wow. I could not
40:04
understand that. I couldn't understand
40:06
that that you came just to make our show
40:08
better. Sat radio row for us for hours.
40:12
>> Hours. Wow. Some of the guys he HE MIGHT
40:14
NOT HAVE KNOWN WHO HE WAS. WELL, I MET
40:16
CALEB Plant for THE FIRST TIME.
40:19
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT HE DID THAT FOR
40:21
US.
40:21
>> FOR US, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. That was big.
40:23
That was big. Wow, who does that? Nah,
40:25
man. I we we Horse and I, we both
40:27
believe in y'all, man. And
40:30
you you should know that the industry
40:32
isn't just all about industry. People
40:33
should know that. There are some amazing
40:35
people.
40:36
>> are an a a perfect example of the all
40:38
industry people on the industry people.
40:40
Yeah, man. But I'm man, I'm super proud
40:43
and super inspired by y'all. You know,
40:45
you know we got bridge business, you
40:47
know, but we just Bridge ain't over,
40:48
baby.
40:54
I love I love it. Tell people where they
40:56
can find you one more time, I can
40:57
Barack.
40:58
>> Yo, boxing with I on all you know,
41:00
social media platforms. But watch our
41:03
show on Ring Champs official Ring Champs
41:06
on YouTube under All The Smoke
41:08
Productions. Nothing but a big name
41:10
guest. We we got we cooking. And we're
41:12
we're live today. And I'm Boxing Bully
41:14
representing Ring Champs. Boxing Bully
41:16
on all social media. There you go, man.
41:18
Proud of y'all. We'll be Horse, we going
41:20
to be there? Oh, we pulling up. Okay,
41:21
I'm wearing the same thing I got on now,
41:23
too.
41:24
Don't ask me to change. All right. Just
41:26
let me know. Hey, man. I appreciate
41:27
y'all you you two coming up here, man.
41:29
You guys are amazing. Continue success.
41:31
We miss you in New York, by the way.
41:33
Yeah, we'll be we'll be we're going to
41:34
be there the second half of this month.
41:36
So, come see us. Monday. Oh, [ __ ]
41:37
That's Monday? Yeah. Hey, we're going to
41:39
be there Monday, all right? All right.
41:41
Thank you, Sway, for for having us.
41:42
That's all love, man. Your son been
41:43
practicing his bars?
41:45
He nasty, bro.
41:46
>> His son is special.
41:47
>> some work, bro. When
41:49
whenever whenever you ready
41:50
>> No, whenever he ready. Right.
41:54
Yeah, five. He ain't got to do the five
41:55
fingers, but he got to come into the
41:57
VALLEY OF THE HYENAS.
41:59
OKAY. OKAY. HE READY. HE BEEN GETTING
42:02
READY for five years.
42:04
>> him come on. We can do it while we're in
42:05
New York for the next couple of weeks,
42:07
man. Thank you, gentlemen, for coming
42:09
by.

Ak & Barak Reveal Boxing's Hidden Struggles 🥊 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Sway's Universe

Hit-Boy Talks Legal Issues, Polow Da Don, Plays Unreleased Music From The Game, Dom Kennedy & Cordae

Kool & The Gang's Epic Journey to Rock Hall Fame | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Bud vs. Canelo: Who Wins the Fight of the Decade? 🥊 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

ENess Defends Diddy Amid Legal Drama: Lessons Learned 🎤 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Shakur Stevenson on Fighting Tank Davis: "It Has to Happen!" | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Crawford vs. Canelo: The Fight Changing Boxing Forever! | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Canelo: 'Crawford Fight is Easy Money!' 💰 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Episode 17 - Horse and Sway Discuss The Best Boxers In The Sport Right Now | BRIDGEBIZNESS

Shaq & Steph Curry’s Moms Expose the Truth About Fame | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Claressa Shields Calls Out Rivals: 'Come Shut Me Up!' 🔥 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

JERMELL CHARLO Talks Upcoming Fight with CANELO ALVAREZ, Beef with BUD CRAWFORD and More

Malcolm Jamal Warner Reveals ALL! Must-Watch Podcast Launch! 📢 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Andre Ward Unleashed: Bi-Racial Battles & Boxing Glory! | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Raheem DeVaughn's Secret to 20 Years of Love in Music ❤️ | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Ak & Barak Talk Canelo, Charlo, Pacquiao and The Best In The World Of Boxing | Sway's Universe

Up next in 10

Ak & Barak Reveal Boxing's Hidden Struggles 🥊 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

Sway's Universe