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Ak & Barak Talk Canelo, Charlo, Pacquiao and The Best In The World Of Boxing | Sway's Universe
Sep 27, 2023
Boxing has been one of the most enthralling and exciting combat sports for centuries. The best boxers in the world have worked their way to the top through sheer grit, determination, and talent. Recently, DZN, Ak and Barak had the opportunity to stop by Sway in the Morning to discuss the best in the world of boxing. The duo discussed some of the most influential boxers in the world, including Canelo Alvarez, Jermall Charlo, and the legendary Manny Pacquiao.
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Ak & Barak Talk Canelo, Charlo, Pacquiao and The Best In The World Of Boxing | Sway's Universe
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because we got the box and aficionados
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here oh yeah
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if you would do me to honor Tracy could
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you tell them tell the audience who's
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just now tuning in how I referred to
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these two young men when it comes to
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their commentating you say they're the
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best they're at the top of the league
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they help you to widen your perspective
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they look out for your blind spots and
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they just continue to make you a wealthy
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knowledgeable man in the world of boxing
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come on these guys right here I could
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call either one of them I'll be hitting
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them at random times and I know they'd
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be like a sway okay it's so Random
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when I hit either one of these dudes I
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have a random thought of it whoever
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answers first is who I talk to
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and eventually it happens to boxing
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bully
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um this guy is uh
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out very passionate
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um the boxing bully movement rather is
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very passionate it's about really the
1:01
sweet science of boxing it's about those
1:03
little things that people call boring
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that is truly exciting to someone who
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really knows what's happening right it's
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like watching a great chess match and
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you barely see a move the fine details
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you know what I mean the fine details
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you could see just in a faint you know
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just in the faint that a boxer may give
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you may learn how sophisticated their
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thought process is the ring IQ and these
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are the type of intricate nuances of
1:31
boxing that very seldom got pointed out
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or explained in a way that the simple
1:35
Layman could understand it it's kind of
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like politics in a way right right
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and all these
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different may not be aware of but that's
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what makes politics so fascinating
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because it's just an endless Vault of
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information research you can do to
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really cause you can never learn it all
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right and that's the thing with boxing
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you can't ever learn at all yeah these
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guys will be excited rather they're
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calling a fight against Terence Crawford
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and Errol Spence Jr or two boxers you
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never even heard of
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these dudes are just as excited if
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they're talking to a a unified Champion
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as they would be the loser and so I want
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to welcome them to the show
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the I want to welcome them back to the
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show we've been doing this for a long
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time I'll never forget the first time we
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sat down in Vegas and they invited me to
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be a guest on that show and we just
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knocked that [ __ ] out the box we
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revolutionized the way this thing could
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happen and look at them now they're at
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the Forefront of all they're the
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vanguards they're the Pioneers they are
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The Originators give it up for the one
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and only Ock and Barack from the zone
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what if what an introduction
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we don't deserve that he's the goat of
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an introductions goodness you this guy
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will make you feel way better than you
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and you know we was broke until we did
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that show with you you know that now
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look at this jacket
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what kind of jacket is that girl I have
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no idea
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I have no idea man
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hey she was wondering this is the
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difference between Barack and not Barack
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got on a coach jacket it looks really
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expensive and then Aqua do you have
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regular stuff yeah traditional masculine
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okay yeah yeah see him this weekend
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though in Vegas
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see what he got on in I bet you he been
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stepping up into the beard rankings now
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you know you never really rank for your
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beard until recently you know I felt
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I've been ready for myself
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but then when I came through it's like
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they forgot he had a bid
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that's what it was they thought he had a
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goatee okay all right okay both of these
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men are boxers right no I'm I was a
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martial artist in my life
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amateur ever a former fighter bro oh
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that's not really that's a great great
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question I I would say I'm a fighter at
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heart yeah sure for Life
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once you start the discipline I'm a
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fighter bro I might get tired faster but
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I'll tap a couple drawers real quick you
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know sometimes my girl reached my face
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and I'll be like she'd be like why why
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me though why you want me to stop being
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like that like seriously still flinching
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huh yeah all right uh man it's good to
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see you both of you you guys have been
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doing extremely great work man it's like
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I don't have to go to the fights no more
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I just watch you all stop it oh it's
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harassing before broadcast too hey man
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y'all gonna kill it today
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um we appreciate that and I'm glad you
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brought up the fact that we did that
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show in Vegas because rocking Barack and
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I we hold that moment dear to us yeah
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because when we we used to host that
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SiriusXM for those that don't know and
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sway welcomed us with open arms we were
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fans of his and his he loves the sport
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of boxing but that moment of I mean he
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helped us get all the guests in Vegas
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because they just stopped Causeway was
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on there everybody Stephen A Smith not
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for us but the way he he solidified Us
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in this building and in boxing we're
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forever indebted oh man let's do it in
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this industry seriously yeah the realest
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dude I've never met a person like Suede
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and I'm not saying it's just because I'm
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on the show you can concur
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this dude as soon as he met us he was
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like yo I want to make you guys bigger
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use my celebrity we'll do whatever we
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can let's go to Vegas let's do this
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let's do it and in my mind I'm like yeah
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okay
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I'm like yeah okay he seemed cool and
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all but you people talk in this business
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people tell you a whole lot so I want to
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be honest I was like yeah okay I know
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you mean I know you mean well right
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came out to Vegas for us and didn't even
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go to the fight
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yeah and I was like sway now I'm Gonna
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Get You tickets you're gonna have mine
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do whatever he was like Barack you the
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only one ain't whipping
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he said I came out here for y'all yeah
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and I'm like
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I'm about to cry
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I ain't never experienced something like
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that that's that's just unadulterated
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love man for real this guy is special
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appreciate it no no man it was important
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because I was just a conduit I knew what
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I was in the presence of when we all
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first met and yo bro how many people
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could say like they watched uh Sphinx
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versus Ali on TV not too many you feel
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me like how many people could say they
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actually watched
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um uh Ray Leonard versus marvelous
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Hagler on TV my great uncle had me
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watching as a tiny infant right um
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fights in the 70s I was watching Ali
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fight Ken Norton fight I watched that
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fight wow I was mad when he broke Ali's
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jaw it scared me so you're a real fight
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fan like he goes back this is what I'm
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trying to like tell y'all man I was you
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know I I was in the Philippines when
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Manny Pacquiao
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fought Oscar De La Hoya even though
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it was on I watched it in the
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Philippines
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it's not real good though no I was out
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there honestly I was out there with um a
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a x
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um my ex-girlfriend at the time uh we
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had planned a trip to go to the
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Philippines a year in advance but we had
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broken up but the trip was already paid
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for so I was like
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move aside I'm coming with you yeah so
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that's how we ended up going there but
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no but wait a minute y'all still went
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together yeah she was paid for it bro
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at the time and I was like do you mean
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your girlfriend at the time no your
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ex-girlfriend I mean I don't have no
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enemies with my exes you know I don't
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know the same box we'll get to boxing
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but I ain't got no enemies with my exes
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you know we have made the trip happen
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and it was amazing and her father
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um um was in a service and um had moved
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from the south to the Philippines before
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he he passed on so I got to meet her
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family on that side but y'all get back
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together after all of that no no no no
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no no see we host that's what we do
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that's a good question but but it
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cemented our friendship oh wow she's
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still friends yeah yeah absolutely she
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got beautiful kids family you know her
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mom the whole night yeah yeah that's a
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long time I don't want to make no
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enemies because of love right you know
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what I mean
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um let's get to talking boxing all right
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ladies and gentlemen this weekend is an
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incredible fight that's taking place I'm
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actually flying out there to just kind
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of Be by AKA Baraka see if I could catch
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the crumbs but uh our good friend Jamel
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Charlo give him a big round of applause
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only one loss to his name one loss to
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his career wow he's the
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unified champion and disputed Undisputed
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at 154 at 100 Junior middleweight Junior
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middleweight fighting the one and only
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the iconic one himself the face of
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boxing Canelo Alvarez
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crazy what a fight what a fight and a
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meeting at one what wait 68 that's
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canelo's weight class for canelo's
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Undisputed Crown so Canelo has all the
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straps at 168 so the middleweight yeah
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Jamel Charlie was moving up two weight
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classes to fight Canelo Alvarez but
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there you go but what's the butt so so
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somebody that doesn't really follow the
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sport and hears that oh my God you're
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jumping up two-way classes so you would
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think that you're fighting a a bigger
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man yeah right somebody that's uh
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Stronger bigger and Status Goliath right
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but the truth is Canelo is a very small
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man for that weight class he's a he's
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the type of fighter that should be
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fighting at 154. you know he is that
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small he is like Terence Bud Crawford's
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size right but he's campaigned at these
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higher weight classes even at 175 and
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has obtained so much success people
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forget how small he is and if you watch
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the press conferences between Canelo and
10:20
Charlie you see that Jamel Charlo is
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still way bigger than Canelo
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so the weight factor and the jumping up
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in weight is not going to play a major
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partner you don't think so absolutely if
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he was going up and he was fighting
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somebody like David benavidez yeah then
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you would say oh he's fighting a bigger
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guy somebody who really belongs in that
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weight class but Canelo is somebody who
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was in his weight class for years
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championed he had two belts at that at
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that weight class and then decided I'm
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just going dare to be great and move up
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to 160. he struggled to move up to 160.
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I remember was saying he was scared of
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Triple G then he was like all right mess
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around let me go up to 168. well let me
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even see 175. he didn't wind up getting
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beat at 175 because weight classes
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matter yeah and he got beat by before
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yeah right but he did beat kovalev and
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won a title at 175 yes you know a few
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years ago so he's had success even in
11:12
that week he knocked out kovalev one
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shot 2019. okay so let me ask you this
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uh and then
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888-742-3345 looking for a boxing
11:21
aficionados so this fight is up in the
11:23
air
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it is I mean canelo's a favorite you
11:26
know in Vegas because of the experience
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at that stage right Canelo has been on
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that big stage since Floyd Mayweather
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even since before that he he's had big
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fights so Jamel has to be able to
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perform under those Bright Lights like
11:42
Floyd used to say it all the time like
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when you get on that stage it's a bit
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different yeah so that's why I guess the
11:48
odd makers are picking Canelo but when
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you talk about Styles and size it's a
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very competitive fight man it's a very
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competitive fight um Barack How does
11:58
Jamel Charles one of the things that
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Canelo does really well is he digs in
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those ribs and he gonna jamel's gonna be
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hit by somebody probably he hasn't felt
12:08
this kind of power so consistently
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because he sustains his power throughout
12:12
the fights you know throughout rounds
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right yeah so uh how how does he I mean
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that's the impact I'm looking to be the
12:20
difference in the fight cantrello take
12:22
those punches you know never know
12:24
probably not you know I don't think
12:26
anybody could take those shots but the
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key is not to take those shots you know
12:30
that's what boxing is is hitting and not
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getting hit and that's what we're gonna
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have to see cholo do and he's known for
12:36
that but lately since Derek James his
12:38
trainer yeah he's known for knocking
12:40
people out so he's in the inside he's
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the one digging to the body okay he's
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the one knocking guys out but I think
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Styles make fights you know and
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opponents make fights so if you're going
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up against somebody who hits like a
12:50
heavyweight you shouldn't be in the
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inside getting hit in the body and I
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noticed you said our dear friend um
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Charlotte so you riding with y'all cause
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Canelo hasn't been up there right now
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I respect that we're gonna have to get
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Canelo to come up here
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took them everywhere else
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next time because I was in New York
13:23
we'll bring
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what let me tell you it is a loyalty
13:31
thing with me I don't have to be so
13:33
accurate with my predictions as you all
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have because your credibility rides on
13:38
it me I'm just telling you what I feel
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oh I got that wrong yeah it's not that
13:45
risky Jamel and Jamal Charlo
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um came on our show years ago before
13:50
people knew who they were right and
13:52
honestly I didn't fully know I just had
13:54
saw them both fight you know um and
13:57
thought they were fascinating because
13:58
they were twins right right
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um and so I've always supported them
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always will and I can never have
14:04
somebody I consider a colleague come up
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here and tell them I think you're going
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to lose right I just won't say nothing
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when you see a guy loses
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in the same way I think I think Canelo
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has learned a lot since the Mayweather
14:21
fight right and improved a lot in many
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areas that probably was his biggest
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learnable moment
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um but I think it was some formula in
14:28
there how you can approach a fight with
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Canelo right right well I guess you
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would say that Beval kind of gave us the
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blueprint you know how to beat him
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controlling the distance and keep him at
14:38
Bay but maybe there was factors in that
14:41
fight where Canelo really couldn't get
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to him I don't know I don't want to give
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Canelo no excuse bevall beat him fair
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and square so but let's just say if
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that's the case then there is a
14:51
blueprint unless Canelo can do something
14:53
differently and we're just thinking
14:55
Canelo can do something different with
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that being said I I agree with Brock I
14:58
don't want to take any credit from Bevo
15:00
but it didn't seem like the typical
15:02
Canelo Alvarez in terms of him moving
15:04
his head and being more active but maybe
15:06
that's because of vivo's style right you
15:09
know I know there were rumors about him
15:10
being a vegan during that camp but he he
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came on and said look it had nothing to
15:14
do with that yeah we can't do that
15:15
because nobody's doing that he can't do
15:18
that suspense don't do that for Canelo
15:19
we can't do that Canelo said it himself
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there's no reason for me to lose him but
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he did say you know he didn't feel like
15:27
he was his typical self so I saw the
15:29
interview with The Breakfast Club right
15:31
and I saw a clip rather where um I think
15:33
Charlemagne asked him about age right is
15:37
it too soon to ask that question or
15:38
maybe is that a factor I mean wear and
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tear I mean he's been fighting
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professional professionally since he was
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15 years old wow right so he's been
15:46
fighting for a very long time
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so though he he's not a guy that's taken
15:52
a lot of damage
15:53
it's not only in the fights in box and
15:55
it's the two months training camp it's
15:57
all the rounds of sparring all the
15:59
running on your knees that's wear and
16:01
tear on your body but I wouldn't say
16:05
I think it might be a little too early
16:06
to talk age for him so okay I think
16:08
Saturday night we're gonna get all those
16:10
questions you know what it is it's not
16:12
about his his actual age because he's
16:14
actually young young 33 years old it's
16:16
just that through his performance
16:18
against John Ryder which was his last
16:20
fight people were just expecting him to
16:22
blow this guy out of the water but
16:24
understand something when you're going
16:25
up against the best guy you've ever
16:27
fought in your life and the guy who can
16:29
possibly change your life if you beat
16:31
him you're gonna be different than every
16:33
other fight yeah and so we got a
16:35
different John Ryder who was not getting
16:37
knocked out so we judging people are
16:40
judging Canelo like oh you ain't knock
16:41
out John Ryder yeah you know and that's
16:43
what it is so they're saying oh maybe
16:45
it's the wear and tear maybe he's been
16:47
in so many fights or whatever but it's
16:49
not like the guy gets beat up
16:51
and you got to give credit uh credit to
16:53
Canelo for even taking a Charlie fight
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I'll tell you why because most of the
16:56
time a lot of Fighters don't want to
16:58
take if they're going to take a big risk
17:00
it's for a big reward right they don't
17:02
want to take big risks Canelo is going
17:04
to be rewarded in every fight it doesn't
17:06
matter who he fights he's going to make
17:08
20 30 million dollars right so this
17:10
fight is actually a dangerous fight but
17:13
he's fighting that God is moving up so
17:15
if he beats him right he's not going to
17:17
get great credit
17:19
oh you fought a guy that moved up two
17:22
weight classes yeah you know what I mean
17:23
so even though we know in like
17:27
internally that this is a hard fight
17:29
Charles A Hard puncher he's very big
17:31
he's going to go on in in on Fight Night
17:33
he's gonna be even heavier yeah and
17:35
Canelo is still all everything is
17:38
against him as far as if he wins he's
17:41
not going to get credit for it all right
17:42
man look we got AKA Baraka here the best
17:44
in the game right now we gonna talk some
17:46
more boxing
17:48
888-742-3345
17:52
Barack show legendary yo citizen so I
17:57
got free gang from Texas Gilbert from
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Phoenix called in from Virginia Advanced
18:01
from Chicago if they want to follow you
18:03
how can they fall everybody I need y'all
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to follow these guys on social media
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this is your inside to boxing boxing
18:10
with AK that's AK boxing with AK there
18:14
you go
18:32
fight taking place this weekend yes this
18:34
might be a basic question but I'm
18:36
representing for the below average
18:38
boxing the Casual fan yes the Casual fan
18:42
that doesn't know all of the stats of
18:43
terminology but it's entertained and
18:45
listening to both of you uh and sway
18:48
you're like you know what I think I want
18:50
to expand my knowledge of the sport so
18:53
there's two u words that I've been
18:55
hearing and I want to know the
18:56
difference of sway you mentioned the
18:58
first unified and then Undisputed Barack
19:02
you said what is the difference between
19:03
the two so in this era there's four
19:06
championship belts unfortunately so
19:08
there used to be three and then way back
19:11
there were less so the one time there
19:13
was one right so in order for you to be
19:15
Undisputed you have to have all four
19:17
belts okay right now if you have more
19:20
than one you're a unified Champion so
19:22
let's say you win two of the belts two
19:24
of the fours unified if you have three
19:25
of them it's unified okay but to be
19:27
Undisputed you need all four that's why
19:29
I jumped in and said Undisputed because
19:31
um when sway say Unified yeah a fighter
19:34
might feel disrespectful
19:36
belts I beat four Champions to get those
19:39
belts you know what I'm saying don't
19:40
don't rob me of that okay so that's
19:42
where my knob is coming between us and
19:46
Canelo are they both Undisputed yeah but
19:50
in different weight classes oh okay so
19:52
that's what makes this so bananas right
19:53
noted so I don't think I think it's the
19:55
first time two Undisputed Champions are
19:57
fighting each other I'm mistaken in the
19:59
four belt ever right bro 100 yeah even
20:01
though wow they're in different weight
20:02
classes that they're both Undisputed
20:05
even though Jamil is is about to get
20:07
stripped for one of those titles if not
20:08
already no once he gets in a ring
20:10
supposedly they're gonna strip on the
20:12
WBO or something like because the
20:14
mandatories is a policy defend it
20:16
against whoever's the mandatory the
20:18
meaning who deserves it next but I think
20:21
it should be some kind of policy when
20:24
somebody's fighting another Undisputed
20:26
champion
20:30
because then those dudes in that weight
20:32
class that have been waiting for the
20:34
opportunity and they're ranked number
20:36
one number two or number three or
20:37
they're the mandatory so I gotta sit
20:39
back and wait for you to go up another
20:41
weight class try to be Canelo meanwhile
20:44
I've been waiting for this shot so
20:45
there's two sides to that I don't I
20:47
don't care because understand that
20:49
boxing is nothing without fans that's
20:52
what we want to see we want to we don't
20:54
want to see a mandatory I think he
20:55
should get his shot but after some
20:57
there's something as great as Undisputed
21:00
versus Undisputed we might not never see
21:01
that ever again ever there's no way the
21:05
distinction embodies which is the belts
21:06
can't say all right we'll let this one
21:09
slide I don't see why that don't make
21:11
sense yeah but you can't switch the
21:12
rules up when it's convenient for you
21:14
like the rules got to stay no don't we
21:16
only do that in life don't we always do
21:19
it always put life we push the gold pole
21:21
back all the time
21:23
but let me ask you this then so if Jamil
21:26
had fought so Tracy wboi beat what is it
21:29
the uh ibf ibba and WBC so look at them
21:32
as all different conferences leagues
21:34
there you go yeah you got a top
21:36
contender in this league kind of this
21:38
league this league they're all trying to
21:39
shoot at your mail yeah you know so this
21:41
guy and from this league is like it's my
21:43
time well Jamil is going to go fight
21:45
Canelo what that got to do with me right
21:47
I'm at 154 let's fight nice you know and
21:51
so that's what's going on so Jamil may
21:53
lose the title yeah because he's not
21:55
taking his mandatory but he's already
21:57
become Undisputed so he's solidified in
21:59
history he was an Undisputed Champion so
22:01
if you start Luke getting stripped for
22:03
the belts it's not going to make him any
22:04
less relevant in the sport right but
22:07
doesn't like the popularity and the
22:10
money kind of Muddy up the structure of
22:13
boxing because to your point Ock like if
22:15
there was somebody who has been waiting
22:17
has been working and you know what I
22:19
mean in a traditional sense they would
22:21
be next in line but then they're getting
22:23
skipped by someone else because it would
22:26
make for you know yeah well because it's
22:29
a business boxing is a business even
22:30
before it's a sport no so before it's a
22:33
wow okay yeah
22:35
because before the fights happen so much
22:38
business has to take place
22:44
you're absolutely right because boxing
22:46
is not like the NBA NBA is an
22:48
organization and you can't be a scrub or
22:51
a bum and play in the NBA but in boxing
22:55
it's different literally anybody
22:57
tomorrow you can go and get a boxing
23:00
license as long as you're healthy enough
23:01
to box right that's what's crazy and do
23:04
and be called a professional boxer so
23:06
you're all independent contractors but
23:08
you got to understand that like boxing
23:10
it's about putting butts in seats right
23:13
so so you can't be you could you could
23:15
have been trained because people talk
23:16
about this all the time you could be
23:17
training your whole life and you could
23:19
you could have dedicated your sport your
23:22
life to the sports since you were eight
23:23
years old but if nobody's coming to you
23:25
what coming to watch you you can't say
23:27
look how how much Jamelle is getting
23:28
paid look how much canelo's getting paid
23:30
or guys like Jake Paul same thing yeah
23:34
Jake Paul
23:36
sales pay-per-views he puts butts in
23:39
arenas like he sells them up we were
23:40
just in Dallas when he fought Nate Diaz
23:43
yeah so people complained about how much
23:44
money he's making he's bringing in the
23:46
money that he's making they got to look
23:47
at it like this he's getting paid by his
23:50
crowd your crowd pays you so if you're
23:52
not getting paid a lot yeah
23:54
exactly the greatest like Silent
23:56
Assassin because what you guys are
23:58
saying it feels like your personal brand
24:00
is definitely a requirement as much as
24:03
your boxing skills you know what I mean
24:05
to get like in the ring so who's someone
24:07
that you would say is more of an
24:10
introvert but they have the the level of
24:13
skills where they still get a lot of
24:14
that's a great question I could tell you
24:16
first thing that comes to mind is Manny
24:18
Pacquiao even though he recently retired
24:20
yeah he was somebody who never taught
24:22
crap I remember he was fighting Adrian
24:24
Broner and Broner saying all this stuff
24:25
in his face and he's looking at him and
24:27
he's giggling yeah
24:30
he never talk no crap but he became an
24:33
international Star right because he
24:35
moved up from like 106 pounds to 154 and
24:39
destroyed people right I I thought about
24:41
Manny Pacquiao but there is
24:43
you know the fact that he has a whole
24:45
country behind him helps there's a big
24:48
Filipino community in America right oh
24:50
my God no it is not yes there is not
24:53
enough not enough to film s
24:59
those are not the people that made him a
25:01
millionaires
25:08
I understand it it's a big Community but
25:11
they're not the ones that's made him
25:12
yeah
25:14
yes yes crazy yes
25:19
it's like Tito Trinidad like Miguel
25:22
Cotto the Puerto Ricans made him no
25:25
Canelo Alvarez
25:29
pretty good fans like when you say
25:31
Mexican has a bigger bigger fan base or
25:34
Filipinos who's known well Mexico
25:42
which ones
25:55
in the presence in boxing presidents in
25:58
boxing as fans Puerto Rican or Filipino
26:01
did I not just say that the
26:03
Filipinos aren't big boxes
26:08
Filipinos became it's easy to get right
26:10
now and today you can go into Marshall
26:12
Filipino you can go anywhere in America
26:16
is Filipino
26:20
how do you think my beard looks like
26:22
this
26:29
Filipinos are cutting black people's
26:31
hair
26:40
if you are if you are pilipino
26:53
I just told you I went to the
26:55
Philippines
26:57
okay that's true if you don't if you
26:59
speak Tagalog
27:01
okay
27:02
if you know how if you love lumpia
27:05
I know that okay
27:09
888-742334 Filipino boxing fans call UPS
27:12
yes just to answer
27:15
yes if you
27:22
if you braggadocious type of person but
27:24
it's called Terrence
27:25
okay right
27:27
and then Spence Arrow then Earl wasn't
27:30
really
27:31
good
27:34
there's one thing about being connected
27:36
to the hip-hop community that makes you
27:38
a star faster yeah man yeah and everyone
27:40
was part of that yeah Javonte Davis is
27:43
in that Community Mayweather that's
27:45
maywether whenever you're connected Zab
27:47
Judah was when the original one once
27:49
you're connected to that
27:51
community in my opinion gave Floyd that
27:54
credibility in the industry when he
27:56
fought there was a show called 24 7 yeah
27:58
and 50 was on that I remember that and
28:00
then we're hanging out they were on the
28:02
little mobile thing yeah and then 50
28:05
invested in boxers so yeah you know that
28:07
tie was cool too I can Baraka here we
28:10
can talk in boxing I know Mike Muse want
28:12
to jump in this too
28:14
um let me go through a few callers and
28:16
then Mike I'm gonna come to you let's go
28:18
to Toronto Matt what up Matt what up yo
28:21
what what's going on guys what's up man
28:23
say hello to the fellas I can Barack are
28:24
here
28:25
oh man I uh I gotta take a second to
28:29
plug my boy he's I'm not even gonna say
28:31
argue fast he is the best boxer
28:35
he's the best boxer in Canada what
28:37
division
28:39
well he don't know he don't know you
28:42
don't know man title
28:44
bro do you know what what weight
28:46
division
28:48
he's he's fighting middleweight but he's
28:50
been fighting heavyweights the last
28:52
couple fights what what's his record
28:55
uh
28:56
um
29:00
I want you to do your research I'm gonna
29:03
come back to you okay do your research
29:08
we need friends like that don't know
29:11
shout out my man yo he doesn't even know
29:15
hey so free game is on the line for
29:18
Texas he's a friend to James he's a
29:19
friend of James Kirkland who was uh one
29:22
of the earlier fights that Canelo had
29:25
that brought a lot of attention to him
29:26
because the way he knocked out James
29:28
Kirkland who was at one point a knockout
29:30
artist yeah right yeah so speaking of 50
29:34
Cent he was a 50 Cent fighter James
29:36
Carter was a 50 Cent fighter a free game
29:38
turn your your radio down interested
29:42
all right what's your question yeah
29:43
what's your question sir
29:45
I have a question I just want to say uh
29:47
make comments and I'm really loving you
29:49
guys uh I can Barack uh the terminology
29:52
the consciousness of it and of course
29:54
you sway man you're a legendary Pioneer
29:57
you feel me thank you brother I
29:58
appreciate you man yeah yeah
30:01
you know even though Kirkland had been
30:03
through a bunch of things and he was
30:04
older in his career I actually boxed
30:07
with his trainer pops back when I was a
30:08
kid as well as he did and uh you know
30:11
the guy did a good job but uh canelus is
30:12
a warrior you know it's real yeah yeah
30:15
100 I think if Kirkland was younger same
30:18
outcome would have happened with uh
30:20
Canelo exactly nevertheless yeah yeah
30:22
shout out to Kirkland though he's a good
30:24
dude I love that guy uh used to train
30:27
him the the woman boxer used to train
30:29
them
30:31
gets the credit for it but that gym is
30:33
actually in the hood in Montopolis in
30:35
Austin Texas and uh pops and old man he
30:38
uh just dedicated his whole life to all
30:40
of us in the hood uh we can come in
30:41
there and we can box and get out of our
30:43
aggression or or just get trained you
30:45
know open his arms up to everybody 100
30:47
he has a couple of Golden Gloves out of
30:49
there yeah he actually trained him wolf
30:51
as well wow was Anne wolf also one of
30:54
the trainers for creed and she has a
30:55
humongous like Tick Tock following maybe
30:57
that's another moment I gotta watch it I
30:59
know she thought she fought
31:01
Muhammad Ali's daughter
31:10
he went through all of that with Layla
31:12
Layla bro by the way salute to Layla
31:14
I'll leave man a big round of applies if
31:16
you say her name that name has power in
31:18
boxing she's a friend of all she was
31:20
great yeah amazing retired undefeated
31:22
yes
31:23
free game you a citizen brother okay let
31:26
me take one more advanced got a question
31:28
for you guys he's in the shy Advance go
31:30
ahead hey Vance yo what's up y'all
31:33
second time Carl Lewis I'll sway how the
31:35
Billy talk Tracy
31:38
nephew Mike news in here too we're gonna
31:41
make that announcement I can't forget
31:43
about Michigan
31:45
oh damn all right go ahead so I had I
31:48
had a question for I can Barack I'm a
31:50
box of myself you know dedicated my life
31:52
but you know following this fight you
31:54
would think Charlo he's in this prime
31:55
age why she would think uh Canelo you
31:58
know a little bit on the back end so
32:00
real clean question who do y'all have
32:02
well first off they're the same around
32:04
the same age so it's not like he has
32:06
yeah it's like what you say canelo's
32:08
been fighting 18 years no I know but
32:09
when you say the word age they're the
32:11
same age so I don't think they're I
32:13
think Canelo has more miles on him but
32:14
he he's not a he's not a guy that took
32:16
massive beatings so me personally I'm
32:19
going to go with Canelo Alvarez because
32:21
I just think the experience and late in
32:23
that fight there's gonna be a vicious
32:25
body attack that's gonna slow Jamel down
32:27
I think Jamil will be a threat first
32:30
five six rounds Canelo cannot start slow
32:32
he has to start attacking the body early
32:34
but it's gonna be a very competitive
32:37
fight until it's not okay and then it's
32:39
gonna hit a wall yeah kind of like the
32:41
Kayla plant fight oh that was a
32:43
competitive great comparison yeah
32:45
absolutely Revenge I don't I don't make
32:47
predictions but I could say that it's
32:50
probably not going to be as easy for
32:51
Canelo as people think I really think
32:53
that
32:54
um Charlie's a smart fighter yes he
32:56
fights with a chip on his shoulder but
32:57
he's a smart fighter and he's gonna go
32:59
in there and he might feel that power
33:01
early and he's going box he's gonna move
33:03
yeah okay there it is man what are you
33:05
saying with that it's going he's going
33:07
to give canola some trouble but there's
33:08
no he don't the guy who hits the hardest
33:10
safety of all the time the guy who is I
33:12
just don't make I just don't make
33:13
predictions you just don't ever want to
33:14
be wrong about anything
33:31
the reason why he says I don't want to
33:34
be right I don't want to be wrong is
33:36
because you're wrong so much
33:39
you
33:49
invited to join the show
33:56
if you try to diss me I'm gonna hurt his
33:59
feelings
34:01
you're not gonna hurt my feelings but
34:03
you didn't predict that that Crawford
34:04
was gonna stop Spence I did I put money
34:06
in yeah
34:07
I don't make predictions I don't make
34:09
predictions all right by the way hey by
34:12
the way you advance by the way wait I
34:15
miss I miss y'all we all came to Chicago
34:17
at the Hooters next time y'all come I
34:19
will be there I have one question
34:21
where's horse at oh that's a beautiful
34:24
voice
34:26
is in training right now okay so I kid
34:29
you not horses in training right now I
34:32
told him we was going to do this today
34:33
he said I gotta go to training so horses
34:36
in training right now he's coming he'll
34:38
be you know we gonna do it in person he
34:40
getting it together so Bridge Business
34:42
coming back and and Barack have been
34:44
supporting us and you're gonna see the
34:46
both of our accounts doing some really
34:47
amazing things so horse will be here
34:49
soon all right
34:55
yelled at me
34:58
Barack call me damn dude you real hard
35:00
with Crawford huh
35:03
as you should as I should and when
35:06
Charlo came up here I said I'm giving
35:08
you the advantage right right
35:10
earn the victory
35:11
I don't know if you should have done
35:13
that but yeah
35:16
I know you talking you talking
35:21
no no I mean Charlie's not a bad pick
35:24
man yeah let's see what happens man Mike
35:27
Muse you want to jump in hey yeah boxing
35:29
for me is all about the physicality and
35:31
the power Pond obviously but I think
35:33
this case is so different because both
35:35
boxers are so Dynamic I'm just curious I
35:38
know you don't make a prediction but who
35:39
has the most to prove because I believe
35:41
when you hit the wall the mental kicks
35:44
in and so I'm curious between the two
35:46
who has the most approved coming out
35:48
this fight one's moving up one has a
35:50
left hand had injury it has a
35:51
complication so wow who did your
35:53
homework to prove I think I think people
35:55
might be surprised with what I'm gonna
35:57
say but I think Canelo does you know I
35:59
think Canelo because even though he's
36:01
done so much he's just expected to win
36:05
so he has to pull this through now if he
36:08
loses
36:09
they're just going to say a whole bunch
36:11
of things about oh he's washed up he's
36:13
this he's that meanwhile I want people
36:15
to give Charlo credit he's a great
36:18
fighter and they're the same size if not
36:21
Charlie's bigger yeah I agree with that
36:23
but it's not warranted like Canelo
36:25
should not have most of the pressure he
36:27
should not have anything to prove I mean
36:29
he's one of the most successful
36:30
decorated boxes of all time not just
36:34
Mexican yeah this of all time so he
36:36
should have nothing else to prove but
36:39
there's always been narratives of Canelo
36:40
doesn't want to fight black Fighters
36:42
young athletic Fighters even though he's
36:44
beaten plenty of them people forget
36:46
about that yeah so here's another case
36:47
that if he loses to this guy they'll say
36:50
see that's why he was ducking Charlie
36:52
all these years so Canelo does have most
36:54
of the pressure yeah NES still something
36:56
to prove I have a question though so
36:57
very quickly about growing the sport
36:59
I've always been curious I just want to
37:01
get your your opinion on this
37:03
as we think about young up and coming
37:05
fighters who don't get to charge you
37:06
guys are talking about the order and the
37:07
rankings all that kind of stuff when
37:09
does that point does boxy begin to
37:11
expand it and get away from the
37:13
pay-per-view model and actually go off
37:15
of pay-per-view in order to help grow
37:17
the sport yes I love a good fight
37:18
probably like the most of them uh I do
37:20
rent and buy the pay-per-view but I'm
37:22
just wondering you come to my house I
37:23
come to your house
37:30
I just recently bought the pay-per-view
37:32
my mom watched it when I was back over
37:33
in Michigan
37:36
don't do download any illegal streams
37:40
because that hurts that's very difficult
37:41
just to answer your question who can
37:44
afford to pay the fighters what they
37:46
want without pay-per-view that's the
37:48
problem these networks they can do
37:49
Network deals with promoters right but
37:51
they have a x amount of money to spend
37:53
and Fighters are going to turn down
37:55
fights if they're not getting what they
37:57
want so pay-per-view is the only way
37:59
okay this is what you want let so earn
38:01
it yeah sell the pay-per-views so
38:04
because of what the elite Fighters get
38:05
paid right it's it's almost impossible
38:08
even a network we work for at the Zone
38:10
we came into the game in 2018 and they
38:13
wanted to change the game right we
38:14
wanted a subscription base yeah which we
38:16
have now subscription-based streaming
38:18
platform and they wanted to shy away
38:20
from pay-per-view but it's it was too
38:22
difficult to have to kind of Rebrand and
38:24
say hey certain fights are still going
38:26
to be on Facebook Mike I mean it's not
38:28
like they didn't try Al Haymon tried
38:30
back in 2013-14 putting boxing back on
38:33
TV like back in the days Muhammad Ali
38:35
and stuff was fought on TV that's why I
38:37
watched it right but it's just so hard
38:39
because people are not investing in
38:41
boxing like they used to back in those
38:43
days so because of that the money is not
38:45
there and and they have to charge
38:47
pay-per-view like he said the Zone tried
38:50
to do that as well and they just can't
38:52
we need the fans the port we need to
38:54
stop people need to stop stealing fights
38:56
yeah one but the live the streaming yeah
38:59
but that's not going to happen so you're
39:01
going to get pay-per-view don't complain
39:02
about pay-per-view if you know you
39:04
really don't pay anyway I think at some
39:05
point the economic models got to change
39:07
in order for the sport to grow I don't
39:08
know chicken before the egg kind of
39:10
conversation we're having right now but
39:11
eventually in order to get off of the
39:13
pay-per-view in order to expand and grow
39:14
the fight because not everyone can wants
39:16
to or willing to sell them to 99 bucks
39:17
yeah but those same fight fans are still
39:20
the stream because I can't afford it
39:21
that means that's like if I'm going into
39:24
the Gucci store looking at a sweatsuit
39:25
and I'm like uh I I don't really like
39:27
the jacket I like the uh the sweatpants
39:30
I'm gonna take the whole thing because
39:31
people will say and I'm gonna steal it
39:32
people say I don't like this whole card
39:34
it's not worth 80 bucks yeah I only like
39:36
the main event so I'm gonna steal it
39:38
yeah that's what's ruining again that's
39:40
true too but I think Monday Night
39:41
Football right like I love my night
39:43
football with a lot of football fans but
39:44
if I had to pay 99 to watch Monday Night
39:47
Football I'm not paying 99. such a big
39:51
company but that's what I'm saying at
39:52
some point in the structure no economic
39:54
structure what's gonna happen eventually
39:55
and this will happen during the pandemic
39:57
actually around 2020. what happened was
39:59
Fighters got paid less yeah it was like
40:02
oh no we're not earning money you're
40:04
gonna get paid less and that's what it
40:06
is I think you know since Floyd put how
40:09
much money he was making out so much and
40:12
other Fighters and just all of their
40:14
money is always public that's what I
40:15
think needs to change if we can stop
40:17
that then it won't it'll be less Egos
40:19
and no and people won't be mentioning
40:21
how much they make and say oh I want to
40:22
make what he made it
40:28
okay um this is great conversation too
40:31
by the way um I gotta ask you about a
40:33
few Fighters again and get your take on
40:35
it I'll watch the John Joyce fight he
40:38
got tko'd by the the boxer from China
40:43
Zhang and the way he got knocked Joe
40:46
Joyce out knocked him out and this has
40:48
been a rivalry between those two they
40:50
fought once yeah and people thought it
40:52
might have been a fluke because Joe
40:53
Joyce is such a big in Statue he can
40:56
take a shot and he's heavy-handed and
40:59
John is a skilled fight even though he
41:01
was 40 years old yeah he beat him the
41:02
first time and people said oh it was a
41:04
fluke so this time he solidified it with
41:06
a vicious knockout which I predicted as
41:08
well
41:11
let me tell you something he knocked him
41:14
out in a knife around the first fight
41:15
and he says I predicted it as well
41:17
listen hold up hold up I'm watching this
41:21
knockout
41:22
we were saying that Joe Joyce was going
41:24
to win I don't know why I have no idea
41:29
said Joe Joyce should retire what do you
41:31
think
41:33
I mean he's a boxer saying that he he
41:36
should know that that's tough you don't
41:37
say that about Fighters you wait and see
41:40
how they come back from this but
41:43
when you're in a heavyweight Division
41:44
and you're getting hit like that and you
41:46
get knocked down a knife around then you
41:47
get knocked out six rounds earlier in
41:49
the third round
41:51
it's a thought I mean have you thought
41:54
heavyweights can change a fight in one
41:56
with one punch so if he's in a big fight
41:58
there's a possibility that he can land a
42:00
big shot against somebody and still win
42:01
but he does at his Pace he's such a slow
42:04
fighter he's so slow it's hard to see
42:08
him be able to compete with the furies
42:10
of the world the Joshua's the wildest
42:11
you know why Paulie probably say it I'm
42:12
sorry because he doesn't have defense
42:14
his defense is how good his chin was Ah
42:17
that's probably why people's not too
42:18
good anymore Tracy is running that [ __ ]
42:20
on rerun right now The Knockout okay
42:23
well let's stay in the heavyweight
42:24
division
42:26
um music
42:27
right on Fury people want to see this
42:29
fight doesn't look like it's ever going
42:31
to happen
42:32
yeah why is it Fury's fault yes sure yes
42:36
it's very short basically I love him
42:38
basically yeah okay he's out here
42:40
fighting um UFC fighters okay I don't
42:42
mind one fight Francis uh Francois
42:45
who is a heavyweight UFC champion UFC
42:49
champion a monster standing next to Fury
42:51
he looks like he's in better shape right
42:54
but he's not a boxer yes just a
42:56
different world man a different
42:58
Warehouse I mean there's no way that
43:00
angano can beat Fury in my opinion right
43:02
but now he's talking about going to
43:04
fight Jon Jones after yeah everybody
43:06
wants the unification about so somebody
43:09
could be Undisputed right it hasn't been
43:10
a heavyweight Undisputed champ since
43:12
What Lennox Lewis I mean it's been so
43:14
long wow all Fury has to do is fight
43:16
usek to make that happen because usik
43:19
has the other belts that he got from
43:20
Joshua but he's playing this game about
43:22
what you're worth and what I'm and then
43:24
at times he says I'll fight for nothing
43:26
but then you complain and about he you
43:28
know he he'll take give him 20 I want 80
43:30
I'm the star it's a it's a constant game
43:33
but he's not scared though
43:36
he's not scared
43:42
because he's so much bigger than him so
43:45
he's skilled I don't see anybody really
43:47
beating Fury so why aren't you making a
43:50
fight happen he just like to be in
43:51
control he's a slim chance he got
43:53
knocked down Years Ago by somebody by
43:55
the name of Cunningham who was a small
43:57
fighter very short compared to him and
44:00
he's left and he's left-handed yeah and
44:02
now you got a fighter who's probably a
44:04
better boxer than Cunningham well he's
44:06
in his prime he's left-handed
44:21
it's a slim chance that maybe that's a
44:24
thought in his head that guy's just like
44:27
the guy that hurt me
44:30
Fury's ducking us that's what Barack
44:33
said
44:33
the boxing bully
44:37
you sound scared right now all right so
44:39
let me let me go through a few before
44:40
the time run out okay
44:42
um but since we're in the heavyweight
44:44
division I'm never going to count out
44:46
Deontay Wilder no how can you how can
44:49
you with that power that he has that
44:51
power goes nowhere and I know he's there
44:53
if anybody could beat him I think it
44:55
would be Deontay
44:57
even though he hasn't beat Fury I know
44:59
he has him beat him I don't know I don't
45:01
know he's lost to him arguably three
45:03
times yeah arguably
45:08
third fight shows that you know he he
45:11
can he can hurt him yeah at least we
45:13
know he can hurt him but fear he's just
45:15
man he's just a monster mother's
45:17
fighting Joshua though while there's
45:18
gonna be fine okay I thought Wilder was
45:21
going to win that third fight though
45:22
actually I did too I actually thought
45:23
that I thought he had nothing wrong with
45:25
that I thought did he knock him down
45:26
twice in that fight yeah in the same
45:27
round in the same round damn Anthony
45:30
Joshua Deontay Wilder who wins
45:34
I'm gonna go with the unpopular decision
45:36
here and I'm gonna pick Anthony Anthony
45:38
Joshua for this fight because I think
45:40
that uh look obviously Deonte can knock
45:43
anybody out with one shot right but I
45:45
think he has to be at a certain distance
45:47
in a certain range for him to pour out
45:49
the jab and land that right I think if
45:51
Joshua comes with a game plan where he
45:53
Smothers him he doesn't because Deontay
45:55
is not a good fighter on the inside uh
45:58
he's big enough to hurt Wilder he's big
46:00
enough to knock while they're out and I
46:02
think he's going to surprise people with
46:03
this one and beat Wilder that's my
46:06
opinion okay you know what I'm actually
46:08
I don't get predictions but I can tell
46:09
you who's going to be the favorite who
46:11
wild is going to be the favorite you
46:13
know why not just because of his power
46:15
but because he got beat twice and came
46:19
back and still had that power and still
46:22
showed that I still have this confidence
46:23
and I'm still gonna be that guy and
46:26
people are questioning Anthony Joshua
46:28
right now even though I think he still
46:29
has it but he's they're questioning him
46:31
now because he's fighting different now
46:33
yeah which might be a smarter thing but
46:36
fans is like no but you used to knock
46:38
people out like what are you doing
46:40
boxing guys what are you going 12 rounds
46:42
for so automatically they're going to
46:44
give Wilder The Edge okay I'm looking
46:46
forward to that fight I'm looking
46:48
forward to Crawford Terence Crawford who
46:52
is the face of boxing now
46:54
um versus Spence Earl Spence two are you
46:58
no I mean oh no I mean I honestly I
47:02
heard that uh they agreed to do it at
47:03
the 147 is that true well that's what uh
47:06
yeah Arrow wants it at 154 okay and Bud
47:09
Terence Crawford came out and said no um
47:11
we're gonna do it at the same yeah yeah
47:13
well he really did I didn't see him well
47:15
he didn't say it himself but he had
47:17
people on his team Nelson said it and
47:19
came out and said the fight is going to
47:20
be at 147 that's where we fought the
47:22
first time something I didn't know on
47:23
the contract and the rematch clause he
47:25
gets to pick the weight class okay yeah
47:27
I know and the rumors are there he's one
47:29
he wants to avoid that fight he just
47:31
wants to fight the win out of canal
47:32
wouldn't that be smart if we noticed
47:34
Spence wants to the 154 say no no I
47:36
wanted 147. yep it's not like you're
47:38
scared of Spence obviously you fought
47:39
him already at his weight class yeah but
47:42
what you really want to do is just fight
47:43
the winner of Canelo and Charlo yeah so
47:46
you're saying okay you pull out because
47:48
you're the one that has the rematch
47:50
clause you're the one that's activating
47:52
if you don't want to fight at 147 if he
47:53
pulls out then he gets to fight the
47:55
winner of that yeah bud just wants a
47:57
huge fight and he wants to spend time
47:58
with his he has a lot of kids he's a
48:00
family man he's just building a big
48:02
mansion and a big land he's said it
48:04
before like he's gonna retire soon so I
48:06
don't know about to be 36 years old I
48:08
think he would win against Canelo
48:11
a lot of people think that I think
48:13
that's the most interesting fighting all
48:15
of boxing for me outside is your core
48:17
Stevenson and tank yeah which is very
48:19
exciting for me I think Canelo versus
48:21
Bud Crawford is the best matchup that
48:24
you can make in boxing especially if
48:25
Canelo wins against Charlo man
48:29
I always there's no better fight I
48:31
always thought nobody beats Bud yeah you
48:33
know
48:34
um canelo's a different weight class it
48:36
can go either way but I I just that
48:39
skill set that bud has just I've never
48:40
seen it before okay so no so we all got
48:43
bud in that
49:03
has nothing to do with Canelo anybody
49:05
else I just met Bud early in his career
49:07
yes he invited me to a bunch of fights I
49:10
went and hung out with his family yes
49:11
and I'm always gonna ride for bud I'm
49:14
never gonna bet against him that I don't
49:16
have I'm not the same as y'all in this
49:18
industry
49:19
um the other
49:20
fighter I want to ask you if you know
49:22
anything about was the one from Japan
49:33
he's won so many titles in so many
49:36
different divisions but I guess he
49:38
hasn't hit mainstream Americans
49:40
18 pounds 115 pounds how old is he 23 no
49:45
no no no no no no okay he's a young guy
49:48
he just beat um
49:52
and the rumors that maybe he can go up
49:54
to 130 and fight Javonte Davis that's
49:57
what people are talking about because
49:59
he's so yeah he is but he's so dominant
50:01
that people want to see him Challenge
50:03
and the only guy they could think of is
50:05
a guy like jeremonte Davis jonte Davis
50:07
is like a middleweight yeah he's too big
50:09
for him but what about a Frank Martin or
50:11
is that too Frank is at 135 too today
50:15
anywhere is fighting at 118 120 what was
50:18
last fight was at 122. it's like this
50:20
Floyd was great but you didn't want to
50:22
see Floyd go up and fight Triple G
50:23
that's right maybe he could have beat
50:25
you GG he could have stayed away and
50:27
maybe he could have beat Triple G but
50:29
it's just asking too much of a fighter
50:30
okay man give these guys a round of
50:33
applause man I had a ton more questions
50:35
but we only got so much time I can
50:38
Barack the best in the game
50:40
[Applause]
50:48
um and when y'all headed to Vegas
50:49
Wednesday Wednesday I'll be out there
50:51
Friday night we'll see you we want to
50:53
link up I'm gonna be tagging along with
50:55
y'all get an extra pass I know y'all
50:57
usually get two get three wherever you
50:59
going I'm there with you can't wait to
51:02
see you then after you get you on the
51:03
show over there yeah man bring your son
51:05
up next time he ready he got them bars
51:07
for you yeah just tell them tell him
51:09
when he walk in here the moment he come
51:11
through that door I'm no longer his
51:12
uncle okay okay
51:17
let's make sure he knows what that feels
51:19
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