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RZA Talks FINAL Season of WuTang An American Saga and Makes A Major Announcement | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Mar 7, 2023
Experience the epic story of ambition and brotherhood as Wu-Tang: An American Saga returns with its third and final season. Witness how one legendary hip hop group rises to fame, overcoming challenges on their quest for success in music industry - but at what cost? Tune into this Emmy nominated series to see if they will triumph or fall!
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big round of applause
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keep them going yeah man the icon is
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here had to be the icon is here 100 the
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Juggernaut is here 100 the Vanguard is
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here 100 the Visionary is here 100
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percent the Oracle is here 100 percent
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the Yoda is here 100 percent the guru is
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here 100
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the griad is here
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the truth Seeker is here honey the truth
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spitter is here hunt it my brother is
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here honey the one and only resurrected
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from the Wu-Tang Clan
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[Applause]
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oh
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man today's a celebration first of all I
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have to see my brother in a minute and
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um always like to start off with thank
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you
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thank you for your friendship for your
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Brotherhood
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um I really appreciate you man when the
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first album came out we got to tell
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these stories back in
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1993. uh it's when we all really began
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to form our bond and we utilized Wu-Tang
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Clan's music to help set a tone for one
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of the first ever syndicated radio shows
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in the history of hip-hop that was
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worldwide on multiple continents called
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the world famous wake up show with my
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brother King Tech and myself
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thank you
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Heather hears it so much she doesn't
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have no more selection I internally clap
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for you
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physical talk to your man
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from there often talkers I told the
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story people always ask me well who do
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you consider a friend out of all the
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people you met you know what I mean like
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and sometimes I have a hard time
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thinking of it because people like you
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is beyond friendship you know what I
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mean it's been a it's been a Brotherhood
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over the decades and in 2023
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um it's just amazing that we still have
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business to do right I mean yeah we
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still got business we still got uh look
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we on the journey we're leaving
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Footprints we're leaving maps for those
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that's coming behind us at the same time
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we're bringing our families with us and
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making sure that uh those 12 jewels of
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Life are always in our possession yeah
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we don't let that get taken from us and
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I think every day that we come to work
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we we protect that you know I mean so uh
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here we are those 12 Jewels you often
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talk about them but I love when you
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repeat them can you repeat those 12
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jewels of Life yes indeed knowledge
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wisdom understanding
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freedom justice equality
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food clothing shelter love peace and
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happiness there it is right there and
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you said uh this plan what what are your
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thoughts go deeper about the plan like
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why is a plan so important
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you know if you can't see it you can't
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get to it you know I mean so you got to
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plan ahead you know throughout the
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course
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um you know some things are spontaneous
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right and haphazard and you might get
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lucky he said I mean but when you got a
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plan when you calculate
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um then your chances of success
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multiplies you know we started with a
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Five-Year Plan
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and that plan also had a conscious
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Vision but what has to be behind the
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vision also was determination and that's
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a word I think that's starting to get
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buried in society I don't hear a lot of
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people who say the determination are
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determined idea so we had a determined
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idea and meaning you can't be deterred
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from it no matter what nobody else say
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you knew that five plus five was ten
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even though they were trying to say it
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was 15 or 5 and 5 is 55 no man
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five plus five is ten is mathematically
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correct and when you see it clear even
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though others may not see it you have to
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move with a determined idea and a plan
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right is the is the foundation of that
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you had a five-year plan when you first
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started yeah what was that Five-Year
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Plan to release the first album yeah my
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five year plan I needed five years for
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my for my calculation I was like if you
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give me five years
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I could get us to number one you know
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what I mean and and if we could get the
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number one look at that who's that
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calling that's my young Grand seed right
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there
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he'd be hitting the FaceTime so can I
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see him hey what's up man beautiful wow
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what's up nephew hey wow that's how you
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can tell y'all
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want to put them on camera he got it
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he's all half on camera yeah he's right
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there man
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peace you on the radio
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baby
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all right peace love you
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[Music]
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that's great so your Five-Year Plan was
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you needed five years to get the group
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to number one yeah and and it was a
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course of action I knew that I had to
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take
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um and importantly the most I mean the
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plan is the plan I'm not going to go
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through the whole plan yeah yeah but the
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most important part at that time was
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everyone to agree
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to allow me to just drive the bus
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everybody
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sit down as passengers yeah and let me
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drive the bus when you're dealing with
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non-alpha males
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you know it's not easy thing you know
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nobody was no chump everybody had
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knowledge of self everybody had Crews of
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their own you know what I mean
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um but they all understood that I was
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the Abbot and the best Noah of the
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situation and so therefore everybody
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swallowed their ego you know I mean it's
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all right and they gave me their word
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and the world is your bond and uh and
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and I delivered my word my word was like
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we're gonna be number one yeah but I
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need everybody just let me do what I do
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I mean you do it so after that first
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album though I feel like the
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gravediggers project came out right yeah
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right after that before anybody else's
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solo project came out and right yeah
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you're correct okay uh so uh we got a
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shout out Prince Paul all right
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poetic you know
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um
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I always wondered
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did anybody have something to say about
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that like why are you putting out this
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Grave Digger stop putting out my album
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like no well the gravediggers the
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gravediggers me and Paul started that
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um
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few years maybe before we did protect
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your neck because Chris Paul had saw
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um Prince Paul um was one of the first
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producers in the industry who really uh
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really appreciated my lyrical skill and
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he was like yo you're one of the dopest
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MCS
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um and fukuan is one of the dopest MC's
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of course that the sign uh Grim Reaper
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who named was too poetic dope MC all on
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Tommy Boy but he knew that Tommy Boy
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didn't utilize us properly yeah so as a
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producer he was like yo I would love to
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pit y'all together and do an album and I
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used to drive way out to Long Island to
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his crib and and Paul was one of the
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first producers who was using
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um
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like computer software like
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in 90. I was not saying 93 92 yo yeah
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computers what kind was he used I know I
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don't know his program that he had
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because I wasn't I wasn't hip to it you
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know I was I was basically EPS ASR SB
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1200 but he has some in there where he
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had to he was up he was up he was ahead
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of us
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the prince Paul's uh a genius
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um and it was thanks to guys like him
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actually that
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you know gave me inspiration as a
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producer they're like yo I could do this
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I can't do what he's doing right yeah
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but I could do what I could do how did
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y'all meet though you and Prince Paul he
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was on Tommy Boy so I was signed the
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Tommy Boy first
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um when I was doing my first single um
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oh we love you I came here
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the sexy one yeah exactly
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I wasn't
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um like they wasn't allowing me to be a
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producer so they had me meet producers
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and so I met Prince Paul
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um Dr period uh ER period yeah get that
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Annie up
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MLP how about some hardcore like Dr
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period yeah yo he was the he now he was
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the one let me talk about Dr for a quick
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second please do he was the one that had
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all of his records and excuse me for
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talking about you brother but I gotta
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tell this
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he had all of his records in order right
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like in like 1970s 1980s or maybe those
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this is all base this is all horns like
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he had it in such a order that when he
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went to get a record he already was like
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pulling it out like it was files like
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fouls so so I saw that now I never did
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that but what I did do was my floppy dis
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I put those things in order uh-huh you
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know what I mean so I was like this is
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all Method Man these are always so for
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many so from each person you could pick
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up some type of wisdom you know what I
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mean yeah and I picked up at least to
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organize my floppy disk because he had
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his records organized my records wasn't
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even in the covers
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exactly what my floppy does bro in order
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you man you had it you had that down
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pack my floppy disk right I find it like
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when we talk about producers and and
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Trace I'm gonna let you jump in but uh
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when we talk about producers in this
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culture Prince Paul name is very seldom
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mentioned yeah you notice that like
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people because they don't know so you
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got these lists of greatest producers
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greatest MCS greatest groups and folks
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don't have full knowledge well Paul I
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mean I mean I think at the end of the
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day
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um I could look at me Andre right
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because we always made these lists but
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we could give our hats off to Paul
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because
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you know he created his own sound with
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De La Soul yeah
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um I think he's the master and the man
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of foundation for for this for the skits
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like he sets he put skits in records and
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sets you up at no point that nobody else
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was doing it then of course you know NWA
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did it with the gangster and they were
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so funny and so you know well produced I
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mean I don't think nobody produce Skits
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the way they produce them they sound
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like movies and of course with us we're
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using Kung Fu sounds and our own New
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York dialect but you wouldn't even be
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conscious that you could do that if Paul
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didn't do it on three feet high and
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Rising
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wow wow uh prison is here man we got
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some big announcements um to make as
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well
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I'm thinking of the Liquid Swords in the
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skits that was on that project right you
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know what motivated those kids
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well that that one was we you know we
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was using a lot of kung fu movies yeah
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but on liquid spores we use Japanese
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Samurai yeah because the Jizzle lyrics
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are like a samurai sword he don't like
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you know method Method Man lyrics is
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like a sport you know they could get
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fancy the just a chop that's it
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you know taking a half step back leg I
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just I keep focusing on you convincing
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this troop of male egos hey we're all
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gonna be in the same vehicle going the
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same direction but I want to be in the
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driver's seat right and I'm wondering
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like what experiences prior to this made
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you confident in your leadership and
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also for other people determination is
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definitely vital but also the art of
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persuasion like what are some steps
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someone can apply in convincing a group
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of people especially men that they
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should follow you well the first step
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was of course the knowledge and the
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knowledge of ourselves right
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um with knowledge of yourself you can
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also reflect on other men who were great
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before you so for us we look at
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knowledge as the one who is a Noah and
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you go into your Bible Noah he's the one
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who knew
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yeah people thought he was bugging out
12:52
he's going to build up build a big uh
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Arc in the middle of a desert Noah
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that's a bar yeah but no one knew all
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right I'm saying so but um and secondly
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secondly I would say that um you know my
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world was trustworthy I was a like an
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honorable man like for everyone I don't
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know it was something that we've done
13:15
together you know Rakeem as well he
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ain't gonna he ain't gonna force or five
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just backstabbing nothing if he says it
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he gonna carry it on the way out and
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then I think lastly
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um for me and I realized this later I
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grew up in the house of 11 brothers and
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sisters so I got a lot of personalities
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exactly yeah so I'm like okay I could I
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could mentally adapt to all the
13:40
personalities
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man and I'm thinking about your past you
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you did some we I think it was season
13:46
two we saw that you did some jail time
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right yeah I didn't know that yeah small
13:51
amount you know not just that's enough
13:53
that's enough to let me know that I
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don't belong there yeah
13:57
I mean all it takes is a little bunk
13:59
bong for me
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not too much but I know you though and I
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know who you are today still some who
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you are who you are yesterday I'm
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curious did you reflect on why did God
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put me here um what is it to learn and
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then what did you walk away with
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it was so crazy for me and we don't show
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this on the show but
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I was sitting in there at the same time
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that um my first child was sitting
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inside the stomach of her mother
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um
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and uh I came to the realization I was
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facing eight years and I came to the
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realization that I'm not going to see my
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child grow up everything that I've been
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doing is actually foolish you know
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you know just didn't make sense of who I
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was and then more more even detrimental
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to me was my mother looked at me as a
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failure she had odds of disappointment
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on me you know what I mean and so as I'm
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sitting there and you know a couple of
15:00
OG's in there and uh Christmas is coming
15:03
up I mean New Year's is coming up all
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right
15:05
but Christmas and New Year's I saw it
15:07
together but around Christmas time you
15:09
know they start making their toilet wine
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right toilet wand toilet wine excuse me
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oh toilet
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yeah and uh you know when in New Year's
15:20
come we drank this all right this is
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Happy New Year for us right and I'm
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sitting there and they they they seem a
15:26
little more comfortable than they should
15:27
have been
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and I'm looking at it like yeah I'm not
15:30
this kind of guy yeah you know I mean I
15:32
don't belong like this my my spirit
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needs to be free my mind needs to be
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free and I need to uh readjust the way
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I'm doing things
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um so I I learned a lot and I I give all
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Praises due to Allah without ever being
15:46
shy you know I know we in America and
15:49
sometimes you know there's a phobia
15:51
about Islam but Islam is an Arabic word
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that means peace yeah and peace is an
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absence of confusion
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so you can't be confused when you at
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peace you got to get rid of your
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confusion and I think sitting there
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mocking Fusion I got rid of it I focus I
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actually wrote down my the names of of
16:11
my future children and really wow and
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utilized it and so all you know how many
16:17
kids you wanted and you used every name
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I didn't know if I was going to get them
16:21
all but I wrote the names down and I
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have they have then I have the paper I
16:25
wrote their names at and they have the
16:28
names on their birth certificate yeah
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wow man the original is here
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um we're gonna talk about Wu-Tang Clan
16:34
American Saga season three the final
16:37
season we're doing a screening tonight
16:39
we're gonna do a q a tonight
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um
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Tracy asked you about
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you know uh how were you able to lasso
16:48
in all these alpha males and you talked
16:50
about knowledge of knowledge yourself
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and other things as well when you
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mention that I'm having knowledge
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yourself how empowering that is it made
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me think of all the knowledge that's
17:02
trying to be
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you know that's trying to be destroyed
17:05
erased and swept under the rug when it
17:08
comes to black folks in America what
17:11
what you know you see these states that
17:13
are now censoring black history you know
17:15
you can't mention the Civil War you
17:18
can't mention white supremacy you can't
17:20
say all these things or they're going to
17:21
take you and take away the books and
17:23
some places you might even have to
17:24
suffer some jail time right what how do
17:28
you assess that what is this in the is
17:31
this an attack what he when you it's
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that's that's the it's a two it's two
17:35
sides to that those way okay so on one
17:38
side let me just go both sides okay and
17:40
I'll take the punishment that comes
17:41
after this and my wife will call me and
17:43
say instead of set up but
17:46
no on one side who wants the one side
17:50
right who wants to tell your son when
17:52
you have a new kid say something a kid
17:54
is born right now 2023 he's growing up
17:56
and he's living in American life and and
17:59
then he's seven years old now you tell
18:01
him that his ancestors were slaves and
18:03
and
18:04
and and woes and and all the brutality
18:09
that we suffered that actually may
18:11
shatter his whole esteem he may
18:15
revert back psychologically to filling
18:18
inferior he may look at white people as
18:21
if they're greater than him because of
18:23
the position that he was in or his
18:26
ancestors was in so that's a double edge
18:29
right to me that's something that's
18:31
probably better when you get to College
18:34
all right so now you can look at it as
18:36
you as a man right but along with that
18:39
teaching you better know that Timbuktu
18:43
Egypt commit uh
18:47
Kush Kush and we could keep going of
18:50
history is your history and even when
18:53
our European brothers were in the Dark
18:56
Ages they they was counting it when they
18:58
got to number 10 they put an X okay they
19:01
didn't even know what a zero was so you
19:04
can't even get all the technology and
19:06
everything you see now until you get to
19:08
the algebraic uh in the armaic in the
19:12
Hebrew type of mathematics and and
19:15
letters and all that originates with the
19:18
original man right which is the black
19:19
man but at the end of the day there's a
19:22
there's a period of time where you know
19:24
if you if you want to include this
19:25
history include that history but I think
19:28
that as a as Americans right we should
19:32
definitely you know learn the basis of
19:35
math science you know things that's
19:37
going to elevate us and then as a when
19:40
you get to be an adult okay y'all look
19:43
here go some things that happen because
19:45
that's the slavery part of our history
19:48
uh is 400 years yeah right but our
19:52
history
19:54
uh at minimum at minimum fifty thousand
19:58
fifty thousand minimum yeah but I don't
20:00
want to go into my theories because I
20:01
think it's way older than I think it's
20:03
way older than that too exactly they
20:05
found Lucy that was 200 000 yeah and
20:07
they talk about you know they may sell
20:09
she didn't know you don't know what she
20:10
knew yeah she wasn't by herself
20:17
she can't do license
20:19
out of her hands but point being made
20:22
that's more moment of tragic history is
20:26
tragic and it's and it definitely has a
20:29
a big effect on us as people and some of
20:32
us are still having the the pts but you
20:35
know the central the post trauma
20:36
syndrome is offered and and and out in
20:39
the white population is still also
20:42
uh having a tone for it yeah they
20:45
haven't fully atoned for that um
20:48
um but still
20:49
I think that it that is something that
20:51
that we have to it's delicate so I would
20:54
really prepare like I don't I did I'm
20:57
gonna say one last thing and like I said
20:59
it's a touchy subject but I did show my
21:01
son
21:02
um
21:03
he might have been 12 or 13. maybe four
21:05
he was 14. like you know myself right so
21:09
it's the year that uh
21:12
Nate Parker did the um
21:16
and so I was like yeah I never showed
21:19
him no movies like that but I said you
21:21
know we're gonna watch Nat Turner and
21:24
then we put it in
21:25
and y'all it broke his heart
21:28
he's just he's just started crying he
21:30
asked why are people like that
21:33
so meanwhile he's going to a private
21:35
school his friends come over
21:38
if you got 10 Friends eight of them are
21:40
white yeah you know what I mean
21:42
um and he didn't saw something then I
21:46
looked at I was okay and I explain it to
21:47
him look people you know it's been some
21:49
evil times in this planet Prince you
21:51
know what I mean
21:52
um and it's been some good times you
21:55
know we're living the good times yeah
21:56
you know what I mean so
21:58
um but
22:00
I never showed him another slave movie
22:02
again you know what I mean I said you
22:04
know what I said I I started showing
22:06
Django
22:08
Jamie Foxx
22:10
at least Django at the end
22:14
he went for him
22:17
my point being made I didn't want to put
22:20
that into it said I'll wait until you
22:23
know he's he's old enough to really
22:25
understand so he doesn't feel no
22:27
inferiority complex okay nor have the
22:30
anger to go out and start just
22:33
stereotyping all white people as evil
22:36
on what he saw so it's a double-edged
22:39
thing so I'll leave it at that you leave
22:40
it at now great I appreciate that I I
22:42
we're gonna come back I'm gonna open up
22:44
these phone lines if you're a MC we got
22:46
a big announcement we're gonna make okay
22:48
our residence here Rizza is here I I do
22:51
think in terms of our history like you
22:53
said the slavery part is one aspect you
22:57
know of what our history is there's you
22:59
know Scholars you know science is this
23:02
archaeologists there's uh us you know
23:05
doulas there's all sorts of parts of our
23:07
history that still gets excluded that
23:11
had nothing to do with you know it's
23:13
just people who Rose above all that
23:15
oppressiveness and was able to uh be
23:17
able to shine people like yourself you
23:19
know um but uh yeah how old is he now
23:23
Prince he's down 17. oh my gosh man I
23:27
watched this dude grow up here at your
23:30
house
23:32
I used to like to hug him because he's
23:34
he was a little cute dude I can't hug
23:37
him now huh now you get your little
23:39
pound now got a little little whip I
23:42
will say this I met your kids at the rap
23:45
party of last season a match of grown
23:48
older kids he has the most respectful
23:51
well wow disciplined
23:55
um inviting children I've ever met they
23:57
came up to me the ones I hadn't even met
23:59
yet it was like they already knew me you
24:02
know wow so salute to you on that Rizza
24:04
is here
24:06
888-742-3345 we got two big
24:07
announcements to make when we come back
24:10
shade four or five no no no no no no no
24:12
no not that one give me a give me a
24:14
Wu-Tang song
24:15
yeah how old was the sun in the video
24:17
with you and praying for verses is this
24:19
the same son he's 17 now yeah that was
24:23
uh that was three years that was three
24:25
years ago you know what about two years
24:26
ago two years ago no verses versus three
24:30
years ago 2020. damn yo exactly
24:33
you know how old his son is
24:38
all right right now icon walking oh yeah
24:41
Rhythm from the Wu-Tang Clan
24:44
Bobby Digital filmmaker
24:48
thinking man inventor architect
24:51
architect
24:53
some of your favorite producers he's
24:56
their favorite producer
24:57
come on we're gonna talk about that but
25:00
right now we gotta uh we got a big
25:02
announcement we want to make your torch
25:06
I've talked about it all morning long if
25:09
you are an emcee and if you are a rapper
25:12
and you're a fan of the Wu-Tang Clan you
25:15
have the opportunity to be on the track
25:17
with the Wu-Tang Clan themselves big
25:19
round of applies for that Grizzly has
25:22
been giving back to the culture forever
25:25
since day one young MC's holding MC's
25:28
veterans MCS whoever rookies whatever
25:30
rookies you could be out of your bedroom
25:33
and if you want to rap with Legends this
25:36
is your chance tolerance yeah we got
25:38
this uh joint called the saga continues
25:40
right uh it features me cappadonna
25:43
master killer inspector deck and yo and
25:45
even it could be you we're gonna leave
25:47
the first 16 bars open that's right wow
25:50
we're gonna uh we're gonna we're gonna
25:52
let you download the track all right
25:54
it's called the saga continues you're
25:55
going to go to suedeuniverse.com that's
25:57
right universe.com
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[Music]
26:01
you're gonna record your 16 bars right
26:05
you're gonna download it you're gonna
26:06
record just 16 bars and you're gonna
26:08
email it listen email it at bust your
26:13
rock sorry not bust around so that bus
26:15
bus your verse gmail.com that's
26:23
b-u-s-t-y-o-u-r-v-e-r-s-e at gmail.com
26:26
the contest will start what tomorrow
26:29
whatever we're gonna start it now we're
26:31
gonna start it right now on the show
26:33
we're going World premiere the track
26:35
it's talking so I got continues but the
26:37
contest is going to end March 24th okay
26:39
so you gotta go to swaysuniverse.com get
26:42
the track download it kick your verse
26:45
send it to bust your verse and then
26:47
what's gonna happen right then the top
26:49
dopest five MCS yeah they're going to
26:51
invite you to the morning show at a
26:54
select date the kick your freestyle with
26:57
sway in Wheels all right okay and we're
26:59
giving out no money all right no flights
27:03
the hotels none of that but we are
27:04
giving you an invite
27:05
okay because you know this is we're
27:07
doing this on our own when it's so we
27:08
ain't getting no corporate backing on
27:10
this we're doing this for the culture
27:12
and for you so here's an invite and an
27:14
opportunity to bust your verse on the
27:17
biggest Nationwide Morning Show right
27:20
here Sway in the morning
27:23
and for more information click the link
27:26
in my bio
27:49
took it and hooked it up to his to his
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to his remix version so check it out all
27:54
right here it is it's a world premiere
27:55
we even included the 16
27:58
um bar verse where you could hear it in
27:59
the front of the song torch if you want
28:01
to try to do something over it
28:02
immediately let us know it's a world
28:04
premiere the saga continues
28:08
once again if you want to be a part of
28:10
the Wu-Tang Clan and be featured on a
28:13
Wu-Tang Clan track we talking Master
28:15
killer Kappa Donna inspector get
28:18
inspector deck and Rizza himself all you
28:21
got to do is go to swaysuniverse.com
28:23
right swayzuniverse.com all right senior
28:26
16 bars in
28:28
um no download the track first yes then
28:31
send your 16 bars in to this address
28:34
right here bust your Rhymes
28:38
bust your verse gmail.com bust your
28:42
verse gmail.com yep and then we're going
28:44
to take the five best verses and invite
28:48
you
28:49
to the wake up to the morning shoulder
28:52
ready I should say the wake up she's
28:54
saying you know same thing let's do it
28:55
again we're going to edit it
28:57
and then invite you to the morning show
29:00
right here where Sway and I will uh you
29:04
know listen to you about your verse and
29:06
and choose the number one yo there it is
29:09
have them Tracy will be here too so out
29:11
of the five people that y'all so five
29:13
people will come up here spit their
29:16
verse and y'all gonna choose live look
29:18
we're gonna put them to put the extra
29:20
gravy pressure on them that's what they
29:22
sound like
29:23
special because this goes hand in hand
29:26
with the finale season exactly this is a
29:29
huge opportunity final season of uh
29:31
Wu-Tang Clan American saga no it is a
29:34
huge opportunity at the end of the day
29:36
you know you know swaying tech for years
29:39
you know I know this is the morning show
29:40
but the wake-up show has so many MC's
29:43
come look Eminem is a x wake up show
29:47
guest right who who who breaks into the
29:49
industry from the verses he spits on
29:51
that show and many many MCS and so this
29:54
is kind of giving back in that in that
29:56
capacity and then when you look at
29:58
Wu-Tang ourselves we're nervous system
29:59
and wasn't uh big pop songs it was based
30:03
on your lyrics so we are putting that
30:05
back out there and giving you a chance
30:09
um you MCS out there and you could be
30:10
whatever age you know you could be
30:12
whatever we're not going to uh
30:14
discriminate you all right it's just
30:17
caliber yeah yeah the techniques in your
30:19
in your in your in your sword place just
30:21
got to be bong bong all right that's
30:22
what it is and when we um when you have
30:24
get invited we're not flying you out
30:26
we're not providing Transportation
30:28
shelter food or any of that shelter yeah
30:30
all of that is up to you to provide for
30:32
yourself but we are inviting you to the
30:34
show yeah exactly and the easiest way to
30:36
do it click the link in my bio all right
30:39
go to real swag or go to
30:41
swaysuniverse.com but click the link in
30:43
my bio and Bong big round of applause
30:46
for that man come on
30:48
torch
30:53
[Applause]
30:54
it's super long day
30:58
happy New Year happy
31:02
happy to everyone who got a chance to
31:05
see the New York State of Mind tour with
31:07
the Wu-Tang Clan and Nas congratulations
31:11
you witness history bus was someone
31:13
busted with someone else
31:16
yeah you witness history for those who
31:20
didn't get a chance to see it
31:22
we have a big announcement yeah we're
31:24
gonna do the New York State of Mind tour
31:27
worldwide starting uh this spring and
31:30
we'll be coming to a place near you come
31:33
on man
31:36
wow
31:39
change again and a special guest you
31:42
know I mean so the beautiful thing is we
31:44
talking about lyrics and lyricism you
31:46
know I mean Nas being one of the
31:47
greatest lyricists ever to bless the mic
31:49
you know what I mean
31:51
um and when you look when you when you
31:53
see this this Tour on the show that we
31:55
put together
31:57
um it's it's actually
31:59
kind of like revolutionary revolutionary
32:02
in its own way because the show is
32:05
seamless like I don't want to give you a
32:08
spoil I want you to buy the tickets and
32:09
come see it but you've never seen a
32:12
hip-hop show like this where Wu-Tang Nas
32:14
and our special guest which is Busta
32:16
Rhymes we actually found the way to make
32:20
it feel like just a unified theatrical
32:24
event
32:25
with bangers and bangers and bangers you
32:29
know what I mean yeah and songs that was
32:31
never performed before you know like for
32:34
the whole history I've never seen Nas
32:37
and uh rayquannon goes through Verbal
32:39
Intercourse this is true and alive
32:43
you know 700 No 7 000 watt speakers
32:46
pushing it out you know 18 000 people
32:49
wow you know and you know the Hollywood
32:52
Bowl was was the end of the tour last
32:54
year uh where um of course Mary J Blige
32:57
came out and joined us uh
33:00
um uh the great Lyricist one of the
33:03
greatest LL Cool J yes yes
33:07
um um the great Lyricist Jadakiss
33:12
it's a lyrical party baby yeah yeah you
33:15
know what I mean redneck came out and
33:17
joined us so so it was such a a
33:20
beautiful moment you know me and Nas
33:24
team he talked about it so yo let's do
33:26
it again
33:27
that's big man come on and then look out
33:30
for the sway in the morning crew would
33:32
have to be in Tracy G and myself
33:34
backstage doing interviews and
33:37
broadcasting or sipping on something
33:40
you know it was a minute that lyrics
33:42
were under attack
33:44
being lyrical was under attack in recent
33:46
years oh yeah and people were just
33:48
dismissing it doesn't matter who writes
33:50
your lyrics none of that matters anymore
33:51
all right it's only about The Vibes yeah
33:53
but you are always the opposite of that
33:55
what are your thoughts on that how
33:57
lyrics were being attacked I mean how
33:59
can you Attack lyrics so that's the
34:01
foundation
34:02
you know what I mean it's the
34:04
foundations you know sometimes we get so
34:06
far from the foundation people be like
34:08
at the top of the building oh we up here
34:10
in the penthouse not knowing that yo the
34:11
first floor is holding you up man you
34:14
know what I mean so lyrics is the
34:16
foundation DJ and beatboxing
34:19
um um graffiti break dancing fashion
34:22
hip-hop Foundation must always remain
34:24
that's why they're called the pillars
34:26
yeah of hip-hop but you you get
34:28
Gatekeepers who kind of repeat that
34:31
rhetoric like that doesn't matter lyrics
34:32
don't matter no more yeah give me name
34:35
somebody who's saying that I I don't
34:38
want to give them a spot look dude
34:41
then then don't say nothing then if
34:43
lyrics don't matter don't say nothing at
34:45
all that's because you got you know
34:47
maybe you have weak lyrics maybe maybe
34:49
the guy think you know he could just get
34:52
it look there's been songs where the guy
34:54
was like
34:56
yeah he got he got paid but he ain't the
35:00
man you know what I mean he ain't he
35:01
ain't the you know he's within the
35:03
Canaan but he's not within that
35:05
legendary pillar of what hip-hop is and
35:07
if you go back and check your history
35:08
all right
35:10
the foundation and the thing that
35:13
propelled the art was lyrics you know
35:16
when hip-hop got dull and and the
35:19
culture was getting too Poppy
35:22
um we needed Rakim we needed care of
35:24
this one we need a Big Daddy Kane you
35:26
know what I mean you know disrespect to
35:27
those who was making hits because I
35:29
respect all hip-hop so you go back and
35:31
you have Young MC on tone locally
35:34
they're doing songs that are more
35:36
dancing okay that's good because we want
35:39
to be in the clubs and we want to be in
35:40
the streets and you want to be able to
35:42
listen to something right and and walk
35:46
away with something and that's not just
35:47
in hip-hop you know folk songs with my
35:50
man
35:51
um um was the great folk singer Bob
35:54
Dylan yeah I thought he was going to say
35:56
Bob Dylan yeah Bob Dylan reggae there's
35:59
a lot of body boom body body but Bob
36:02
Marley Yeah lyrics you know what I mean
36:04
you go back and you you check you check
36:06
uh
36:08
um whether you're going to Temptations
36:09
with the when he wrote the Rolling Stone
36:12
it's lyrics
36:15
baby and you out there who say lyrics
36:18
saying that sharpen your lyrics
36:21
let me ask you this man we talking I
36:23
always said back in the 90s at the
36:25
Wu-Tang Clan we've been saying it's the
36:27
greatest in our opinion greatest group
36:29
that ever impact hip-hop we said that
36:32
for a while you know but one of my
36:33
favorite groups is daylight soul of all
36:36
time because they spoke to me so in such
36:38
a perfect way you know that you know and
36:42
rest in peace today if you know um who
36:45
who are
36:46
if somebody said well who who's the
36:49
greatest hip-hop group of all time and
36:51
you didn't name Wu-Tang Clan who who's
36:53
on your list why
36:56
I'm about to meditate on that right I
36:59
gotta meditate or who are some of them I
37:01
mean you think about you know the
37:03
Pioneers you know of course finding DMC
37:06
or pioneers Public Enemy of pioneers
37:09
helped us so much down the path you know
37:12
I can step back even before them and go
37:14
cold Crush you know Grandmaster Flash
37:16
and the furious five and I could uh I
37:20
could go forward and look at Great
37:21
groups like outcasts who brings us from
37:24
the south I could go down to um
37:27
even though they wasn't considered a
37:28
group but I mean no NWA yeah yeah but I
37:32
want to count Snoop in there I want to
37:33
put dog pound everybody everybody in
37:36
there you know what I mean then you got
37:37
groups that that didn't get the you know
37:41
let's call it the total Commercial
37:43
Appeal but we're very inspirational and
37:46
very influential hieroglyphics
37:48
um yeah Far Side
37:51
um you already said De La Soul but De La
37:53
Soul I just remember when daylight Soul
37:55
came out the entire like 60 of the
38:00
hip-hop Community tried to beat them
38:02
yeah and that's when you know yeah the
38:06
impact the impact was for real and so
38:09
EPMD too I always say always yeah man oh
38:13
my gosh and I hope my brother uh don't
38:17
get A Tribe Called Quest show yeah yeah
38:19
they like so it's look
38:22
the groups and the soloists these are
38:25
all parts of of the culture now we lost
38:28
the think of a lot of groups right I
38:31
mean you know and it's like the solo
38:32
which just seemed to become a
38:36
um just a dominant factor in our
38:37
industry but
38:39
um the Migos bought the groups back but
38:41
there's not a lot of people so we could
38:44
do some more groups yeah that's true
38:45
because I think only like the locks
38:47
technically locked together right you
38:49
know but
38:50
MLP of course like shout out to MLP but
38:54
yeah a lot of groups the rules the rules
38:56
shout outs yeah but I'm saying but all
38:59
of those are still
39:02
give me some groups after
39:05
2005. yeah our future
39:08
ASAP Mob okay yeah but the individuals I
39:12
would say the Amigos
39:14
a new Duo out of Brooklyn Girl Code okay
39:18
okay
39:20
they're actually pretty damn dope right
39:22
yeah it's a few but it's not as abundant
39:24
as it was no I'll be remiss if I didn't
39:27
ask you before we go about season three
39:29
the final season
39:31
uh Wu-Tang Clan American Saga uh what
39:35
what did you put into it what did you
39:36
hold people wait the final season or the
39:38
series finale is this it no no this is
39:40
the final season we're gonna I'm gonna
39:42
move on and do some other things uh it's
39:45
been five years yeah it was a Five-Year
39:47
Plan yeah
39:49
wow okay but um this season oh actually
39:53
you will see
39:55
um the Wu-Tang Clan go through that
39:57
five-year period uh and you know of
40:00
course we know that they are successful
40:02
but you don't see the pitfalls of
40:03
success right when you got when you get
40:06
there what what multiplies in you what
40:08
demon becomes worse right or what demon
40:12
are you able to destroy or what part you
40:14
become better how do you survive success
40:18
um we don't got a map for that either
40:19
like and I think this season how do you
40:22
survive success yeah because it ain't
40:24
just money bro you know I mean success
40:27
is not an easy thing to survive what do
40:29
you mean like like man
40:32
there's a lot of well think about some
40:34
of our artists right who get successful
40:36
you meet them before they're successful
40:38
yeah you meet them after they're
40:40
successful and they're a little weird
40:41
they're little strange they're eating
40:43
too many pills or something or they or
40:45
they dealing with too many things that's
40:46
you know even one of our greatest
40:48
success stories is our brother Michael
40:50
Jackson but for a moment we we was
40:52
disconnected to him because we didn't
40:53
understand the things he was going
40:56
through so success is deep Bro yeah it's
41:01
not an easy thing to survive uh and
41:04
especially when you're the only one in
41:05
your family or the only one from your
41:07
community right what does it feel like
41:09
when you're not surviving it though like
41:11
what was your lowest vibration point
41:13
would you say I think I made a I made a
41:15
mistake
41:17
which everybody look success builds a
41:21
God complex
41:23
okay you actually believe
41:26
that you are the chosen Christ
41:28
you know you can get that feeling in you
41:30
and everything else is subjugated to you
41:33
hmm
41:34
right and then something happens in your
41:36
life where you can't do nothing have no
41:38
power over it
41:40
uh for me it was a passing of my mom's
41:43
uh it was like I was like okay I'm just
41:45
okay okay I'm human yeah
41:48
ain't nothing I can do about this so
41:51
when you realize there's nothing you can
41:52
do then you gotta then take two steps
41:54
back and say all praise is due to a law
41:56
because
41:57
you thinking everything is as huge as
41:59
you sometimes you didn't even realize
42:01
that
42:02
um like I was telling it but sometimes
42:03
you you don't even know who's at home
42:05
with your grandmother your mother or
42:07
your pastor who's praying for you that's
42:10
helping you get to that success but then
42:11
you get there you're like ah you start
42:14
changing everything about your own self
42:16
um you know my wake-up call happened
42:18
early you know
42:20
I removed myself from the industry you
42:23
know what I mean sat down for a few
42:24
years about two or three years and I
42:26
came back and I you know that's when I
42:27
started composing films and things that
42:28
nature but success is not an easy thing
42:32
uh especially when it's first
42:34
generational yeah you know what I mean
42:37
so
42:38
I don't think my children would have the
42:39
same problem they didn't
42:42
they didn't feel the guilt of success so
42:44
I'm gonna say that last thing for your
42:45
listeners success also has a guilt
42:48
feeling and survivors are going through
42:50
that a lot you're the only one with it
42:52
everybody then you start helping people
42:53
because you feel like ah it's fine but
42:56
ah geez like you know so it's a lot to
43:00
deal with but in in the season we see
43:03
uh our characters try to navigate that
43:06
and and uh the most important thing I
43:08
want to say about the show that I pray
43:10
is that this show is a map
43:13
okay you're watching Young American men
43:18
go from poverty from crime and then
43:21
finding themselves in the music business
43:24
growing and fame stature and economics
43:27
and how do they navigate that and how do
43:30
their relationships change with
43:31
themselves their families and the people
43:33
they're attracting to them this season
43:35
digs deep into that and uh I'm very
43:38
proud of it and
43:40
look it may be the final season but it's
43:42
I gotta say it's the best one as well
43:44
absolutely man I want to thank you for
43:46
putting King Tech myself in season two
43:48
episode five yeah and mortalizing us
43:52
right now man I want to say thank you
43:54
for that uh thank you for all you
43:56
contribute I can't wait for the ballet
43:58
[Applause]
44:04
Hulu is here Hulu is here
44:07
and tonight we're going to do a
44:09
screening and we're going to do a q a
44:11
with a lot of the actors you and Alex c
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yeah Alex see my partner thank you Alex
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for this five year Journey thank you
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brother okay and we working on some
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things too indeed so yeah and I'm a
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shout out method Man uh exactly the
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producer Brian Grazer executive producer
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an entire Wu-Tang Clan thank y'all
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brothers for the years of Love support
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consultation consolations all the good
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things yo uh bong bong we still here
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bong bong we still here don't I know had
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to be I know you got to go to Urban view
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gotta head over to Urban view hit me up
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at the happy hour whb trigger yo
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citizens I hope that you really took in
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this conversation because the gems are
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everywhere man catch em all it's Tracy g
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hit me up at torchington that's torch
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ing t-o-n all right thank you I'm at
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real sway across the board citizens all
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MCS go to swaysuniverse.com right now
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download the track saga continues uh man
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you could be on the track with inspector
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deck capodana Master killer and Rizza
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and you all you gotta do is download
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that track uh 16 Bar verse and then
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email it to us at bust your verse
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gmail.com we're gonna pick five you'll
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be able to come here to New York City
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we're gonna invite you you got to get
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yourself here pay your own route pay
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your own shelter pay your own food but
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the doors will be open for you we're
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gonna pick one to be featured on this
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track with the Wu-Tang Clan so make sure
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you do that all that information is in
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my bio at real sway or go to
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swaysuniverse.com and on that note
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citizens we got Naughty by Nature
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tomorrow
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it's different yeah rip so you got a
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question for them I'm gonna play it back
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oh okay yeah um um
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a real one too oh okay that's another
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hip-hop group yeah yeah no we still have
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some Legends they're one of the greatest
46:09
used to ride in the limos together
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because we was both signed a Tommy Boy
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and
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um you know they blew up and I didn't
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but uh let me get a good question hold
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on that's a good intro though
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take your time go ahead I'll say that
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though yeah yeah yo this next group
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right here no you're live on there too
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by the way yeah but it's okay man it's
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not going great man I'm like I'm taking
46:29
over the show like yo this next group
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right here it's your show man real in
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the morning go ahead bro no Naughty by
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Nature man but I want to ask them is
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um I always I never really knew like who
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produced the Beats really I mean I I
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never knew who really produced the beats
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and came up with all the songs so who's
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the one that produced the Beats to come
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up with all the songs and always because
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Vinnie didn't rap that much on that
46:56
first album so I thought he was
46:57
producing okay right I know K was there
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but I just couldn't really put my Fang
47:02
on it so question one when did Vinnie
47:05
started writing lyrics okay in question
47:08
two who produced all the Beats there it
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is that's from the Risen fellas
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all right cool there you go
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and that known citizens we have nothing
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left to say
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foreign
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foreign
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