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Al B. Sure & Peter Gunz on Celebrity Boxing Match Hosted By Gillie, Wallo and Flavor Flav
Mar 22, 2022
On March 26th, all eyes will converge on Atlantic City again as some special celebs will step into the boxing ring once again. Musical legend Al B. Sure will be stepping into the ring with the CB Champ, Hazel Roche and Kimbo Slice, Jr will fight Iggy Rodriguez. no Stranger to the celebrity boxing ring, Peter Gunz will be providing color commentary alongside Roy Jones Jr. Trach and Rich Dollaz will serve as special guest referees and the entire event will be hosted by Million Dollar's Worth of Game's own, Wallo and Gillie in addition to Flavor Flav.
Al B. Sure and Peter Gunz, check in on Sway In the Morning as we ramp up towards fight night.
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Al B. Sure & Peter Gunz on Celebrity Boxing Match Hosted By Gillie, Wallo and Flavor Flav
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[Applause]
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that man right there is a pillar
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he's a statue
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he's a rock
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in this game in this culture
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trust me when i tell you he's a pioneer
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he's a vanguard
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he ushered in the style in 1988
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that plenty of singers and rappers are
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getting paid for
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right now in 2022 before there was drake
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there was this man ladies and gentlemen
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citizens from all walks of life thanks
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singer songwriter producer performer
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radio personality
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y'all don't even know about his radio
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career he was tearing up the streets of
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the bay area when he was on the radio in
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the bay area
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home area
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i remember the days man this guy ushered
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in the era when we talked about new jack
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swing that was just so important to our
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development as artists as listeners as
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consumers as
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members of the community
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he looks amazing right now he's a
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grandfather that looks like he just had
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his first kid
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i want to welcome him to the show so
1:13
much history we could talk about but we
1:14
want to talk about what's going on now
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as well citizens i'm opening up the
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phone lines 888-742-3345
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ladies this is my brother so if you
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can't get to him first you could get to
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me second i'm taking all crumbs please
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welcome him to the show
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sure ladies and gentlemen
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[Applause]
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man i've been waiting to benefit from
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this for years
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wait wait wait wait wait timeout time i
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wish i could afford to take you on tour
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with me oh my goodness
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he'll pull up for free
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let's get things in order first of all
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i'm a very big fan of your format of you
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just as a person and over the years that
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watch you navigate and do what you do
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and uh i'm not mad at you at all you've
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been handling your business so
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congratulations kudos black man to you
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and your entire team for always just
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keeping it keeping it before 2022 you
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would keep it in 2022
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so uh so we really appreciate you and
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and your amazing team
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um just continue to bless that platform
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and keep it you know keep it real with
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the people so thank you i appreciate you
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got it lovely but let me fail now for a
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second though
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i'm sure man let me fan out man like you
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know we we from the same high school so
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to speak so as you would
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you know we we we are i was on the west
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coast witnessing it all being in memory
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being intrigued by everything i was
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seeing
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any time i saw heavy d and mount vernon
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wearing one of those what do you call
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those jackets with the the leather with
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the white fur on it uh
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oh oh no
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the bubble goose the bubble goose you
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know whatever the wardrobe that was
3:06
coming out of mount vernon
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for the kids but before the kids talk
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about drip and all that we had the
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bubble goose and we had the uh the sheep
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dogs but the mittens and the matching
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hat to go
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street remember you had to go down and
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save your little brother
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i'll be sure we didn't have that in
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oakland we didn't need that in oakland
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it was too hot so we wasn't wearing all
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that but we wanted all of that style man
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and and so i just want to say
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congratulations on your career on your
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legacy
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absolutely before we get into that
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though march 26
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i didn't know if i heard it correctly
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but pete peter guns and and alby shaw
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called me the other day and peter gunn
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peter called me i was on the phone i
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said i'll get back to pete we talk all
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the time and then he texted me and said
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i'm in the car without be sure
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march 26th i i've heard of many a
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producer a singer a songwriter a
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performer a grandfather a radio
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personality i never thought i would hear
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the word a boxer what is going on
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why is albie showing a celebrity boxing
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match um that's taking place march 26th
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what is happening
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well you know um you can take me out of
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money earning my own burning but you
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can't take the money on the mount burn
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out of me so i still got a little bolos
4:51
left you know you know a little bucket
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list thing in addition to the uh the
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organization reached out and contacted
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me uh pre-covert and uh you know we're
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trying to work something out you know
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because everybody you know
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was having these conversations yeah we
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heard you you know because imagine me
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trying to get home from school every day
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from the north side to the south side of
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mount ernie and uh and i never took my
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chain
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you know what it is and you know it is
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what it is but you know when you're
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young you know the priority is different
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and you know it's all about having the
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shiniest uh shoes and so on and so forth
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and you know having the show to adidas
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and having your bubble goose and so on
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and so forth but keeping it moving but
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uh you know the streets of mount vernon
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raised me uh so big shout out to monthly
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earning and and everybody there
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and everybody from from butler to tutti
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to you know man listen you you you know
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those names come on you yes yes yes
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family
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and we like we got number love for you
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and um and uh you know
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it's just
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you know it's just something you know
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you know spending a majority of of my uh
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professional career you know also
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attending you know the mike tyson fights
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all over i know you're seeing pictures
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of us everywhere and stuff you know just
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being a big fan of of understanding that
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this is not necessarily a brute force uh
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sport it's really a chess match for
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intellects you know to outsmart each
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other and uh being able to uh disconnect
6:15
someone's anatomy is it's a completely
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different uh
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genre but um you know i i thought it was
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something curious and and you know all
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praise do not lie you know i've
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conquered so many other you know you
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know it was number one and you know
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music and number one and you know
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great radio stuff you know just doing
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everything and i come from the school of
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quincy jones as you know and i wanted to
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just truly um you know
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try my hand at everything you know guess
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what you know as long as i put my my
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best foot forward and my effort you know
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from what i learned i mean that's all i
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can i can ask myself for and
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just move and get out your own way
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that's it i heard that hey it's taking
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place march 26th if you're near unit
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tri-state area it's going to be it's a
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charity and he's going to be fighting
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hazel the latin lover roche
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and um yes sir yes sir
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it's a big dude too he's twice my size
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but you know uh i i have the uh the
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legendary roy jones uh training me in
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terms of you know making sure my jab
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step is on point in addition to uh you
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know my footwork and so and so forth and
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just keeping it moving and you know
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still being nimble as you know as my
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brother like i you know over the last
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few years you know i've lost up to 140
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pounds basically deciding i wanted to so
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you know to get you know get it right
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um you know i let it slip a little
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something i got to i think maybe i want
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to say close to 309 pounds and which is
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considered
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uh medically obese so you know i did a
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few things and i stopped you know the
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bread rice and pasta and this you know
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stuff turned the sugar in addition to i
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wound up doing the bariatrics surgery
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because it was detrimental to me having
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diabetes type 2. you know so there's a
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few things going on and then just going
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into hospital just to check on you know
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i was having some pain
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uh found out that it had some other
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complications and things of that nature
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and uh you know as you know as black men
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we're like now i'll go tomorrow you know
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next week i'll make the appointment next
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week but listen i want to encourage
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everyone you know all of us my sisters
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as well please
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we need to go and then you know get
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yourself checked out on a periodic basis
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you know with all that's going on right
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now just really take care of your health
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you know ever since i turned 50 i've
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been on this mission you know i did a
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lot of beating up my body over the years
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i'm going to keep it in 2022 with you
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but
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you know but
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yeah but you know at the end of the day
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it's not playing
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get the money i'll be sure one more time
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chase let me just say this this is uh on
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the 26th march 26th um albee sure will
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be facing off against hazel the latin
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lover roche i believe and you want to
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get tickets you could go to celebrity
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boxing tickets.com to get you have about
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you know what i have this way i have a
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better one for you you can do this go to
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lbs.net
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dot net or just albeit sure dot net
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forward slash celebrity boxing if you're
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not able to make it to ac on the 26th
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pay-per-view you know it's right there
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and you can order and have the whole
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family colleagues friends the homies
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around the way come watch this because
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also
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i make
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a very big announcement god willing that
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i come out victorious i'm making a very
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very big announcement for the entire
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world for the culture for outside the
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culture it's going to be the biggest
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announcement of the year and uh you
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heard it first right here oh [ __ ] okay
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man all right a quick announcement by
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alby shore uh flavor flavor would be the
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ring announcer peter guns would be the
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commentator
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trench and mob wise renee graz
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or the referees kid and player be
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performing gilly the kid and wallow will
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be hosting so maybe
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check that out
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peter guns turn your camera on man i see
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you here peter guns turn your camera
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oh there you go peter guns ladies and
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gentlemen
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wow
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peter why are you trying to get al
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punched up in his face man what's this
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about
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[ __ ] man i i inspire al to do this al
10:28
saw me beat up on cisco he saw me the
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first round knockout and he said yo guns
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could do it my little brother could do
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it i could do it
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and
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this is like what is that
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i practiced my i fractured my wrist so i
10:40
told you be careful wait
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yo why is it we why we get to this age
10:45
we want to jump in the ring what is that
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about
10:48
[ __ ]
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dumbass
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you know just you get you get old and
10:54
crazy my doctor was like what's wrong
10:56
with you
10:59
you know rehab on my wrist he was like
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what's wrong with you
11:02
you too
11:03
[Laughter]
11:05
you know what i i'd rather i'd rather
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you know very in all seriousness i'd
11:09
rather you know do something of this
11:10
nature and uh make sure that uh you know
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i wanted to also focus on giving you
11:14
know my philanthropic uh
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spirit you know and and really you know
11:19
hone in on on giving some attention to
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those who really really deserve it and
11:22
you know i know we're entertainers and
11:24
you know make people dance and you know
11:26
and entertain so so forth but there's
11:28
some people out there like um cheryl
11:30
action jackson who is the uh the founder
11:33
of minnie's pantry they've fed over 15
11:37
15 million meals to families you know
11:39
tiffany rose and l.a you know that
11:41
that's called mindy's pantry and
11:42
minnie's boutique tiffany rose in l.a
11:45
she has we feed the hungry which is my
11:47
friend's house l.a and they're spreading
11:48
around the country and they're in skid
11:49
row weekly giving toiletries stocks
11:52
clothing a good you know spare
11:54
spirituality you know they have in
11:56
church up in there you can find anybody
11:57
up in there like lakers and kardashians
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you know it's just really a beautiful
12:01
thing and last last but not least we are
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going to celebrate the uh the work of dr
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dr sharpton and uh and just and all the
12:09
stuff that he does with nan national
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action network so i want to make a you
12:12
know a donation dedication to my
12:15
commitment to these these particular
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organizations there's so many out there
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but these are my focus for now and and i
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really like the work that they're doing
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and i'm a fan of all of them and every
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you know being such being so inspired
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specifically by doctor reverend al
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sharpton and and his his uh
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we call him the general uh you know
12:32
attorney crump and just being being
12:34
there you know along with you know
12:36
rachel nodeling and seeing how these
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uh you know sitting in the middle of a
12:41
funeral with these mothers with these
12:42
slain and murder
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young young men and women i mean this it
12:46
completely changes your perspective uh
12:49
this way you know it's it's something
12:51
that you know if you didn't take life
12:53
seriously you know you know as you know
12:55
i don't talk too much every time i say
12:56
something that goes by or about stuff
12:58
crazy instead of understanding that is
13:01
understanding look don't let the love
13:02
songs fool you i'm just out here trying
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to you know make this leave a legacy and
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something you know for my amazing sons
13:08
big shout out to quincy devin and lual i
13:11
love you i appreciate you keep working
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hard
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i don't care what is that you wind up
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doing but what i want you to do is be a
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productive positive part of society
13:19
that's it
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i'll be sure man so i i want to ask you
13:24
a lot of questions but i'm going to let
13:25
tracy and heather jump in hp you want to
13:27
want to say anything to him
13:29
yeah al what's up how you doing pete
13:31
what's up it's heather how y'all doing
13:36
just showing some love to you guys al i
13:38
wanted to start with you and just ask
13:40
you we always talk about you hear the
13:41
term
13:42
we didn't know hip hop would take it
13:44
this far like just to see us in
13:46
different arenas and different platforms
13:48
whether it's
13:49
movies television acting food all the
13:51
things that you even in your spaces you
13:54
mentioned as well what is it like for
13:55
you then when you see some of the
13:57
artists that you started out with and
13:59
remember being on the radio your record
14:01
was number two and their record was
14:03
number four and you see them now doing
14:04
residencies in different places in vegas
14:07
like do you are you guys a r b community
14:10
as well um is it love there is it like
14:13
how are you guys with each other you
14:16
know what that that's a great question
14:18
um you know i i've got you know in the
14:20
words of have you know i've gotten
14:22
nothing but love for my family you know
14:24
and very specifically that that genre of
14:26
music in terms of you know the 80s 90s
14:28
movement you know along with the the uh
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i call him the creator of uh you know
14:33
new jack swing mr teddy riley um a
14:36
genius within his own right um
14:38
and and my my partner in crime and and
14:42
and and do good and intellect and then
14:45
crypto currency and music and you know
14:47
we know him as dj eddie f what a
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brilliant young man we started week
14:52
money under mount vernon all day and we
14:54
started in the basement uh you know in
14:56
mount vernon you know
14:57
working on productions and and just kept
15:00
coming up with stuff and then we wound
15:01
up going to center for media arts down
15:02
here by you know nyu and doing you know
15:05
studying engineering so eddie kind of
15:07
invented that uh if you stay ready you
15:09
don't have to get ready he wanted us to
15:11
become educated so as we became real
15:13
full-fledged producers and producing for
15:14
major labels
15:16
you know we really know we wanted the
15:17
sound we wanted things of that nature so
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just about being prepared um
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and and i'm like i said to you i'm very
15:24
happy to see in fact we took it a step
15:26
further eddie and i have been discussing
15:29
uh
15:30
uh you know as it relates to on the
15:32
publishing side of things like right now
15:34
we're in this this space now where
15:36
there's an intellect i don't want to go
15:38
too technical but there's an
15:39
intellectual property law that states
15:41
you know about you know intellectual
15:42
property rights and so on publishing
15:44
things of that nature i don't i don't i
15:46
don't want to i don't want to ruin this
15:48
sexy but i'm a little bit of a cornball
15:49
i'm into google analytics data
15:51
footprints and understanding the
15:52
logistics of what an artist you know
15:54
represents around the globe and the
15:56
territories and things of that nature um
15:58
but yeah it's amazing so what we decided
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to do is something called legacy artist
16:03
advocates and basically you know we put
16:05
a team together of very prominent
16:08
individuals uh you know which will be
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doing a big announcement you know be it
16:12
be a no linger uh and and we we uh it's
16:16
gonna be pretty amazing because all
16:17
we're basically attempting to do is
16:20
help these artists recover their
16:22
royalties you got to realize a lot of
16:23
these artists make and may not be doing
16:25
well in certain you know because you
16:26
know music goes in rotations and that's
16:28
just like asking you
16:30
imagine asking your accountant to play
16:32
the piano and survive it just may not
16:34
work you know what i'm saying because so
16:35
some people are just really good at
16:36
being a guitar player really going to be
16:38
a singer they not make they're not a
16:39
lawyer they're not account and it's
16:41
really hard to trust you know especially
16:42
within this industry so
16:44
once you get that on board in terms of
16:46
um
16:47
you know we just decided you know what
16:48
let's because it's impossible to get you
16:50
know head of legal legal affairs or
16:52
business affairs or anybody on the phone
16:54
in these companies
16:57
that's true come on and there's a lot of
16:59
people out there that have been stealing
17:00
our royalties
17:02
shout out to the to the people of the
17:04
good folks on that sugar hill
17:07
but you know we got to explain how they
17:09
did it though but how did they do it
17:10
though there was a there was a statue of
17:12
limitation on being able to claim
17:17
it's an intellectual property law which
17:18
is done in 1976 but where the stuff
17:21
starts to revert to you have to go back
17:22
to your full copyright and ownership
17:24
but but real quick just to end that off
17:27
um
17:28
the key to it was now that we we put
17:30
this team together and basically
17:32
basically you know
17:34
now now all these companies have what's
17:36
called portals and basically you know
17:38
there's no more fuzzy math so you know
17:40
let's say let's say bob the artist is
17:41
having a hard time paying his rent he
17:43
doesn't realize he might have 650 he
17:45
might have some bands sitting at you
17:47
know mca row or universal what have you
17:50
but it's just you know we're just trying
17:51
to bridge that gap and assist these
17:53
artists and
17:54
yeah yo but what i'm trying to tell you
17:56
is there's a company rich kid
17:58
entertainment good folks over at sugar
18:00
hill that have been going and getting
18:02
people royalties overseas
18:04
so they've been they've been paying the
18:05
wrong people because it's a scam i'm
18:07
telling you what i know
18:08
remember yeah yeah yeah and i am aware
18:10
that oh yeah i'm aware of that part as
18:11
well what they also do is help you
18:13
market your catalog to advertisers as
18:15
well in addition to you know getting the
18:17
songs placed but that's that's the next
18:18
step also doing is you know reclaiming
18:20
the catalog and then finally because if
18:22
you think about why why is you know
18:24
night and day not an att commercial you
18:26
know or you know something of that
18:28
nature you know at this stage but but
18:29
again now you know you know we're
18:31
savvier eddie and i have been taking the
18:33
bulldog horns and we are truly just
18:35
trying to uh really take this and take
18:38
it to another level and assist these
18:39
artists and getting their royalties that
18:41
they just do i mean i i literally just
18:43
to be honest you know i'm gonna keep it
18:44
2022. what year did i executive produce
18:47
and produce all that jonasy stuff do you
18:49
realize i i got my first jealousy check
18:52
maybe in the last year and it's not even
18:54
a full check like and we did 80 million
18:58
oh i'm trying to listen
19:01
forever my lady
19:03
that's not the only thing i didn't
19:05
spread my lady steak come and talk to me
19:07
all of that whole first album
19:09
and i and and and and our team you know
19:12
you know we put that whole that whole
19:13
thing together puff puffs and uh and
19:15
andre came to me and said you know they
19:17
started working on stuff but i was on
19:18
tour
19:19
you know with new edition and bobby
19:21
brown you know they said he came back
19:22
and said you know once we got all this
19:23
stuff together you and davonte go lock
19:24
up get this thing together you know then
19:27
we we he said he said quote unquote he
19:29
said yeah do that quincy jones thing you
19:31
do like put to get that album and put it
19:32
together but they the guys are already
19:34
brilliant in their own right and uh i
19:36
was just there to make sure that
19:38
everything was presentable i am i'm just
19:41
truly
19:43
you ain't saying everything why why not
19:46
wait why you didn't get told i'm trying
19:47
to tell you sweet i'm trying to tell you
19:49
what he mentioned
20:00
and these are all brothers of yours
20:03
who had the money why why didn't you get
20:05
the money no the right the right the
20:06
record labels the record labels you know
20:09
until we figured out this whole thing
20:10
now because of technology see technology
20:12
moves much faster than the laws so
20:14
technology has allowed us to uh
20:17
uh you know like i said these now all of
20:19
these things are assigned to uh catalog
20:21
numbers you know the songs and the
20:23
copyrights and so on so forth so you
20:24
know i don't like i don't get too
20:25
technical but at the end of the day this
20:27
money is sitting there with major
20:29
interest behind it so please you know
20:31
reach out if you're interested in uh you
20:33
know uh regaining uh recovering your
20:35
royalties now actually what's really
20:37
good is that you know we've been having
20:39
this dialogue in public you know
20:40
reverend sharpton you know attorney
20:42
crump eddie f
20:43
um james you know we've been you know
20:46
having this conversation publicly and we
20:48
just realized that i think maybe three
20:50
of those major companies have now
20:52
forgiven the royalties from those legacy
20:55
artists from the 80s and 90s i don't
20:57
think warner brothers has done it yet
20:59
come on warner brothers let's get it
21:00
together let's let's let's get this
21:02
thing right
21:03
but people reach out to you said please
21:05
reach out but who should they reach out
21:06
to is it what pete is talking about yeah
21:09
they they can
21:10
yeah
21:11
you know what they can they can reach
21:12
out to me you know just dm me you know
21:14
i'm official i'll be showing everything
21:16
and my team goes through most of the
21:17
stuff you know because you know look at
21:18
promoters everybody's always going
21:20
besides just people who are just true
21:22
music enthusiasts who just want to talk
21:24
about music and things that are nature
21:25
but you know i try to shout out to eddie
21:27
much love
21:32
brilliant absolutely brilliant and and
21:34
mining ethereum and cryptocurrency and
21:36
it's amazing because right now we're
21:38
about to do i just did a record uh with
21:40
snoop dogg and we're corrupt it's called
21:42
nfts and smoking treats
21:45
[Laughter]
21:49
okay
21:52
all right pete we got peter guns with us
21:54
as well march 26 celebrity boxing match
21:57
has taken place
21:58
uh albie shore will be stepping into the
22:01
ring ladies have no fret he's from mount
22:04
vernon his knuckle game is nice the face
22:10
face will not be ruined
22:13
yes i do al you know i'm so glad that
22:16
you touched on your health because
22:17
beyond your legacy beyond your career
22:20
beyond these new money moves we have to
22:22
celebrate your health because especially
22:24
last year when i believe you revealed
22:26
that you had four to six months
22:28
with us
22:29
yeah
22:30
yeah you know what i i like i said i'm
22:32
glad i went in just to check out i was
22:34
having some abdominal pain and uh and i
22:36
called a dear friend and they you know
22:38
made arrangements to go get checked out
22:40
you know in an expedited manner and i'm
22:42
glad i did because finding out that it
22:44
was some some strange thing with my
22:46
gallbladder was growing back into my
22:48
liver and i had sludge and then they
22:50
went in and they found three abdominal
22:52
abscesses so i was in and out of the
22:53
hospital you know nine months i mean it
22:55
was just it was a you know just it was
22:57
an eye-opener and just a wake-up call
23:00
for me to you know basically you know
23:02
just really take this bull by the horns
23:04
and let you know i wanted to live you
23:05
know i got i have a few listen
23:08
and in all seriousness man i appreciate
23:10
y'all so much and i appreciate
23:11
everything you said in terms of you know
23:13
my accomplishments and things of that
23:15
nature and then you know what i do i
23:16
think of i'm like man
23:18
there's this guy named quincy jones man
23:20
i haven't done nothing yet man i got a
23:22
lot of work to do you know what i mean
23:24
it's like you think of that oh wait big
23:26
shout out happy birthday quincy jones i
23:28
love you big brother
23:30
um you know we all love you we
23:31
appreciate you
23:33
um
23:35
yeah yeah man but cute
23:37
q's been accused been quite a blessing
23:39
over the years and just just in terms of
23:41
you know you get around cats like that
23:43
you just shut up you shut up and listen
23:45
and you just like you're like
23:46
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23:47
you know
23:48
you name your son after him
23:51
yeah yeah yeah absolutely
23:53
that's a lot that says a lot your son is
23:55
amazing man ball your sons yeah
23:58
q's been up on the show a ton of times
24:00
you love him love how he feels no he's
24:02
got now
24:03
hate
24:09
can you talk about your early days like
24:11
i i andre harrell is somebody that i
24:14
really admired i grew up you know just
24:15
really
24:16
him and russell a few dudes in terms of
24:18
their business acclimate i really grew
24:20
up modeling myself after them
24:22
what can you tell us about andre harrell
24:24
because i know he was instrumental in
24:26
discovering you and even bringing you
24:28
and quincy jones together can you talk
24:30
about that time what was that like how
24:31
did that happen what did he say to you
24:33
what kind of things did he say to you
24:35
wow andre andre was the
24:38
you know
24:39
the chief
24:40
marketing
24:42
guru
24:43
intro you know i kind of patted my
24:45
portfolio after dre because he uh you
24:47
know he had what's called that that
24:49
spirit of discernment to connect the
24:51
dots
24:52
and you know and to be able to find that
24:54
talent he was i was was amazing for
24:56
talent in terms of you know and you
24:58
could be real rough with yours and he'll
25:00
figure that he says yeah i see through
25:02
this yeah take them jeans and put a
25:04
little hole in the lid like he was
25:06
always you know inventing
25:08
and uh and
25:09
[Music]
25:11
you know again
25:13
in the end what we would attempt to do
25:15
was take uptown uptown records and
25:18
uh basically mold it into a boutique
25:20
version of what motown represent you
25:22
know uh which i think we accomplished
25:25
that mission so just imagine you know we
25:27
you know teddy f and i you know really
25:28
the way it all started because i've
25:29
heard all this and i hear 100 million
25:31
different stories um you know russell
25:34
russell uh sealed it by explaining how
25:36
you know the whole departure with he and
25:38
andre and he was very supportive of
25:39
andre but you know russell had it on
25:41
lock with like you know public enemy and
25:43
beastie boys that loud you know that you
25:45
know just that that aggressive hip-hop
25:47
and he really wasn't feeling the whole
25:49
heav and you know
25:51
commercial you know hip-hop you know
25:52
mixture because that wasn't his lane he
25:54
was so incredible that he was just
25:55
rocking with that he was smart so again
25:58
in russell manor he was just busy trying
25:59
to bless bless his man
26:01
and then you know he went off on his own
26:03
no pun intended you know and you know
26:06
and then what happened was
26:08
we literally
26:09
eddie f and i were in the basement and
26:11
he was always spending these records
26:12
with this death jam logo on it you know
26:14
he's rocking you know slick rick beasty
26:16
boys run dmc so and so forth right
26:19
public enemy um and i remember
26:22
very clearly that one day we had a flood
26:24
in the basement peter i think i'll tell
26:26
you the story eddie and if we had a
26:28
flood in the basement and eddie was the
26:29
best dj in mount vernon right so that
26:31
was our weekend gigs we used to go do
26:33
parties and stuff and i was the emcee at
26:35
least i thought i was you know but i i
26:38
thought i wanted to be
26:39
burning some parties
26:42
you were crazy
26:46
mount vernon oh my god
26:55
i got a question for big bro too hold on
26:57
yo al did you know denzel back then
27:01
um no no no no mount vernon i'll just
27:03
hear you
27:04
i never
27:06
yeah you know it's funny i didn't meet
27:08
him until afterwards i think i probably
27:09
met him at like at b smith's one night
27:12
you know on eighth avenue like you know
27:13
back in the day whatever and then you
27:15
know we kind of laughed about the
27:16
remember that yeah god wrestled us old
27:18
man barbara was you know a dear friend
27:20
and an incredible incredible black woman
27:23
just like this amazing i mean just good
27:25
people too and uh you know like i said
27:27
gareth soul um but yeah so you know and
27:30
you know and it's strange because mount
27:32
vernon obviously is the first uh city
27:34
outside of the boogie down bronx you
27:36
know the five boroughs
27:37
and it's just a four square mile town
27:40
with a lot of drip before the word drip
27:42
became you know popular and and just in
27:45
terms of artists who are just truly
27:46
aggressive and really
27:48
truly truly into their craft you know
27:50
and uh and why are they calling me right
27:52
now so uh somebody call him
27:55
yeah yeah
27:57
i think
27:58
yeah
27:59
i think it's right
28:00
here
28:15
yeah it was crazy right let me ask you
28:17
this when um when new jack swing first
28:20
became popular did y'all know what it
28:22
was did you understand what was going on
28:25
that this was becoming a new era in
28:27
music like what do you recall from them
28:29
days
28:30
i recall well i remember andre you know
28:32
you know fast forward andre putting me
28:35
on you know telling me to get on this
28:36
train this was before i had a record
28:38
outside he got told me get on train go
28:39
to 125th street i had this guy i want
28:42
you to meet theodore and then you know i
28:43
went over there i wanted to stand here
28:45
for six months sleeping on dude's couch
28:47
he taught me song arrangement he taught
28:48
me you know programming things of that
28:50
nature but it was something so like
28:53
the technology moves much faster like
28:55
just
28:56
he was just so amazing just in terms of
28:58
just seeing how
29:00
he would navigate with these drum
29:01
machines and these things and his rhythm
29:03
was just unheard of like he's truly a
29:05
prodigy teddy rifley
29:07
i can't listen if you you can't say
29:09
nothing about teddy well that man is a
29:11
genius um
29:12
andre is so funny because as we were
29:15
commencing on uh working on the
29:17
life story you know with andre herrell
29:19
and uptown records uh he he said yo you
29:22
know there's three people who really
29:23
know how to do new jack swing that says
29:25
teddy riley
29:26
dj nef and i'll be sure right so
29:29
so every time he said you know it was
29:31
always you know blessing to hear him say
29:32
that because we really we love the genre
29:34
but let me tell you something you know
29:35
who who created that phrase
29:38
uh new jack swing was
29:41
uh the writer the film writer barry
29:43
michael cooper
29:44
and basically what he what what he
29:46
talked about you know who created you
29:47
know uh you know he did all that new
29:49
jack city uh uh jason's lyric above the
29:52
rim you know he's involved with all
29:54
those cult classic films um and you know
29:57
but he coined that phrase and basically
29:58
he talked about it being the music of
30:00
the struggle you know out of it from the
30:03
cotton club and on you know kind of at
30:05
hall and you know
30:06
it's real out here and hustle and that
30:08
was the rhythm of the street that took
30:09
our minds away from all of the uh
30:11
you know the hoses and things of that
30:13
nature because that's where that first
30:15
swing came from and then teddy riley
30:16
just
30:17
made it electric and uh and just truly
30:35
i knew this pete you know i know this i
30:38
remember when when when night came out
30:40
but that wasn't him on the album cover
30:41
that wasn't him on the album coming that
30:43
song
30:44
but you can hear it with him because his
30:46
voice you saying he got he got joked
30:48
okay what you
30:55
together and we had done a bunch of
30:56
records together you know and teddy
30:57
wasn't working a little bit everybody
30:59
but um you know we cut all type of demos
31:02
and do certain things and i think teddy
31:03
tells the story about how gene griffin
31:05
said they were trying to meet a death
31:06
line uh instead of a deadline and uh
31:10
that funny
31:12
okay so uh but
31:14
yeah right it's like 40 years later
31:16
that's my man big shout out embarrassing
31:18
peace king um but yeah we're trying to
31:20
meet a deadline i think for mca records
31:22
for them to release the record and then
31:23
he said he said he told teddy he said
31:25
teddy come here
31:26
put that old that boy on there you know
31:28
that boy from mount vernon
31:30
he said wasn't
31:37
and it was all good because it's you
31:39
know at the end of the day it was all a
31:40
collaborative effort in terms of you
31:42
know we all would work together you know
31:43
terry robinson tabitha you know tarajita
31:46
you know from the girls and teddy riley
31:48
and kyle west break it down kevin dean
31:51
you know you
31:52
and then you know devonte and then under
31:54
the devante he had timberland and he had
31:57
belgian i mean it was genuine and messy
31:59
elliot so it was like this big
32:01
collective of just it was it was motown
32:04
on steroids it was like part you know
32:06
the the new version of what motown
32:07
represented you know andre hill we would
32:10
call him baby barry gordy and he would
32:12
call me
32:13
baby quincy jones
32:15
um but again but let me just give you a
32:17
quick one this is how to start it eddie
32:18
and i in the basement he's rocking had a
32:20
flood
32:22
had to scurry and get all the wires off
32:23
the thing so i as i'm picking up the
32:25
wires i found there was a yellow pages
32:27
and and the thing i had to pick it up i
32:28
was drying it off
32:30
and for some reason out of ignorance i
32:32
just picked it up and i looked up after
32:33
him and i called
32:35
and i called 20 times and i i kept
32:37
making a mess piece i speak to russell
32:39
simmons please so i kept getting the
32:41
kind of like you know you know like yeah
32:42
what kid calls for mom vernon on the
32:44
wall phone you know from the yellow
32:46
pages and he has to speak to russell
32:48
simmons like i'm gonna really get
32:49
russell simmons on the phone right so i
32:51
kept asking so finally after the 30th
32:53
call and i said well you know i'm
32:54
working with this group because i wasn't
32:56
part of the group heavy being the boys
32:58
but so i said
32:59
hey i got this group you know from money
33:01
under mount vernon and he was like you
33:04
mean all your budgie [ __ ] who think
33:05
y'all from the bronx
33:11
and i said no i said well you know heavy
33:13
d and the voice says with the fat boys
33:14
and said no sir i said this is something
33:16
a little different you know we got a
33:18
little you know melodic you know
33:20
temperament and it's you know beats as
33:22
hard as studios
33:24
so but you know we mixed it up
33:27
get that little r b and hip hop and so
33:29
on and so forth
33:30
and uh
33:31
that's the way it started basically we
33:33
started that dialogue and then i said
33:34
they wound up getting meeting and we
33:36
eddie and i cut the demo called it's a
33:38
party all right the first cassette demo
33:39
on that tascam 244 and they went to have
33:42
their meeting but the great thing was
33:43
that you know they got the deal
33:45
congratulations but eddie f being my
33:48
brother always kept my cassette right in
33:50
his back pocket and every time he was on
33:52
the move and moving around these big
33:53
circles of entertainment now you know he
33:56
you know check my man check my man check
33:58
my man he said he saw he decided i got
33:59
nothing to love that yes man because
34:01
he's just he was relentless with you
34:02
know just always being selfless being
34:04
selfless and putting putting his man
34:06
first you know like come on man we gonna
34:08
get everybody get their deals together
34:09
we won't you know let's get produced
34:11
let's go to school you know this it was
34:12
everything he was just always trying to
34:14
educate us
34:18
so many we could cover
34:20
um who today
34:22
i'll be sure uh when you think of the
34:24
voices i i mentioned drake earlier um
34:27
because he's had so much success and and
34:30
he you know and it and he's
34:32
very proud of drake man very proud
34:34
decisional rapper the consistent the
34:36
consistency the consistency and that's
34:39
that's to me the key in terms of what
34:41
drake is doing them he's just he's
34:42
coming hit after hit after hit
34:44
and you know he's not compromising he's
34:48
he's keeping his signature sound on you
34:50
know and he's keeping lights getting
34:51
[ __ ] alive
34:54
and that's what albe short did he kept
34:56
light-skinned dudes up in the forefront
34:57
that's what you would drink
35:08
has any of the guys
35:10
the newer guys have any of them reached
35:12
out to work with you
35:14
yeah you know what
35:15
especially over the last few years and
35:17
stuff when people you know when stuff
35:18
started to come out you know saying it
35:20
wait you know
35:21
we didn't know what he wrote and
35:22
produced i didn't because my thing i
35:24
never wanted the accolades i swear you
35:26
know what my thing was just always i
35:27
like to put the work in so we just
35:29
stayed in that studio i was on hours and
35:31
you know come on come on guns you know
35:33
how it is you just you live breathe and
35:36
and start smelling like ssl uh you know
35:39
you know mixing boards and uh
35:42
i hear a lot of you in today's music
35:44
believe it or not i hear a couple i had
35:47
a couple of artists that
35:48
i can hear you know sounding like they
35:51
have the sound a little bit because if
35:52
you notice the sound the old sound is
35:54
coming back it's sampling
35:56
a lot of the old joints or just not even
35:57
sampling recreating them
35:59
so uh yeah you know i think they even
36:01
created one of your joints it was hot
36:03
yeah so it is it comes full circle
36:06
but it is very humbling i mean because i
36:09
i'm
36:10
so funny i just found out i'm in the i'm
36:12
in the webster's dictionary on the albe
36:14
show and then i think it's another one
36:15
of the page page brothers or something
36:18
i'm like
36:20
i'm like so i'm i've officially i've
36:22
officially become an adjective and
36:24
you're one of the highest google people
36:26
on google with some crazy what was that
36:27
i heard about you
36:29
oh you know because he said he said yo
36:31
you google michael jordan and you know
36:33
obviously no way am i comparing myself
36:34
to the michael jordan i said he said
36:36
google michael jordan you get eight
36:37
hundred million you go by i'll be sure
36:38
for some reason it's at 1.5 billion i
36:40
was like get out of here
36:43
but you know
36:44
that's just
36:46
but it's it just goes to say in terms of
36:48
my example you know obviously as
36:51
as an old school artist i you know i i
36:53
stay pretty much on top of my social
36:56
media and you know
36:58
staying engaged with you know uh people
37:01
who enjoy listen i'm just appreciative
37:03
of anybody who's allowed my heart to be
37:05
part of the journey over the years and
37:06
that's that's that's more humbling than
37:08
anything else you know i mean just
37:09
listen you can listen to a thousand
37:10
artists and then you know people in my
37:12
camp and people my camp are like listen
37:14
they say yo you like all black justin
37:16
bieber it's like what do you mean he
37:17
says man
37:18
you know you were booked until 2025. i
37:20
said they want to see all over the
37:21
planet and i'm like it's just humbling
37:23
people don't know when i'm on stage i
37:24
spend the first three minutes of tears
37:26
behind my sunglasses because
37:28
whether it's whether it's two thousand
37:30
people or twenty thousand people and we
37:32
in a package and i i walk out and it's
37:34
just like it just refused my spiritual
37:36
tank you know i mean it's just it's such
37:37
a blessing being that kid from mount
37:39
vernon who was standing in my room
37:41
trying to do new addition steps and
37:43
bobby brown and try to dance like
37:44
michael jackson with the little black
37:46
and white tv on the chair with the where
37:48
the rabbit is come on you already know
37:50
yeah come on man
37:54
pete was a big he was a prince fan right
37:57
pete was dressed up like friends when he
37:59
was little mike
38:01
mike am i too my
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that no that was a fact that wasn't even
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a rim shot right there i'll be sure
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listen this is just the first of a
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series of conversations i would love to
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have with absolutely you know cause i
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you know you're you're you're history
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living you know what i mean your present
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and your future
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and i know you you went viral a few
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times for a lot of controversial uh
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remarks that were made and we could
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probably talk about that the next time
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but i want people to really understand
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you know how important you have been to
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the evolution of r b music uh soul music
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in general and and then what you
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represent today look how good this guy
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looks look at that blazer look at that
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top hat he's a grandfather
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god bless
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no god bless you know what i listen to
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like i said i so appreciate you first of
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all thank you for allowing me on your
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massive massive platform around the
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world you know thank you i truly
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appreciate you and your team man you you
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got you got you got the queens and the
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building i love it man i got the best
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team in the game
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i see you powerful that's right
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it ain't another combination like it in
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radio they're starting to emulate it now
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but it ain't another combination like it
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in right yeah
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but
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but you see it maybe stealing it
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they've been stealing listen we just
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call that a form of appreciation that's
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all it is that's all it is and
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and you know what i want to mention too
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so now i've also decided because i had
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to wait till 50 because you know where
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i'm from you know mount vernon hall of
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you know you don't talk but ever since
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you when you turn 50 you get a pass so
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i'm finally going to embark on on my new
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book which will be a title
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from mount vernon to the moon and back
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right and then and also my life it's
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also my life story you know it's
39:47
somewhat reminiscent of the bobby brown
39:49
and new edition formats but the story is
39:52
something completely you know
39:54
you slay
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but you already know
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that i mean i couldn't even get into it
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and guess what and guess what yeah and
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they're gonna they're gonna hear the
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truth whether they like it or not
40:04
because all this a lot of times listen
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man i get used so much for traffic and
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blogs and listen i don't i don't need to
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do record out i don't need a tv show for
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some reason but but i'm blessed that
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there's a curiosity in terms of you know
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that digital footprint and uh and then
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people are just being curious and at the
40:21
end of the day i love the simple fact
40:22
that everyone swears that they know my
40:24
whole life story of business that they
40:25
have no clue and you know and i just let
40:28
the blogs just roll with it and you know
40:30
this this conspiracy theory and alan
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puffin listen i'm proud of black man i
40:35
wanted to see him you know
40:36
thrive more and be able to affect change
40:39
and you know practice philanthropy and
40:42
then just the more that we have the more
40:43
we can give to others who are in need
40:45
and that's really kind of my play you
40:47
know forget all that extra who don't
40:48
like who and who's dating who and who's
40:50
smashing this you know that's fantastic
40:53
you know leave that to you know
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i mean to leave that to those those who
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need who need to you know feed from that
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so um but you know like
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what's the state of your relationship
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with puff now
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um
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you know what he he's he's doing his
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thing i'm proud of him and uh
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you know there's no beef that i know you
41:15
know you know you know you know what it
41:16
is just everybody else creates it around
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look i'm just happy look
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my son is thriving you know we
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co-parenting what have you um you know
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kim blessed it
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uh and uh you know caress our soul
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we're gonna god wrestle so what a
41:32
wonderful lake what a wonderful lady and
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uh what amazing oh you know it's one you
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know prior to passing away we're
41:38
actually all together as the uh
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at netflix you know for um for my
41:42
youngest for quincy's new uh
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uh christmas special called holiday
41:47
calendar which was done has done really
41:48
really well so congratulations good
41:50
movie man very good movie and and we you
41:53
know america needs something g rated
41:55
right about now sway you know i mean
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yeah so so nice to see that um
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and uh you know this but we were all
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together and you know she was doing
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fantastic at the uh at the premiere and
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you know uh puff came through you know
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it was just it was a star-studded event
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it was so nice just to see the support
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and you know and a big thank you to
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everybody out there who support any of
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my my youth and and their endeavors
42:17
and entertainment and things like that
42:18
big shout out to devon loud was rocking
42:20
doing all that trap you know they got it
42:22
on locking atl and and little b short
42:25
you know he he's singing his face off
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and he my oldest he you know he told me
42:29
that that young man singing of course
42:31
you know quincy doing exact thing and
42:33
and i had an opportunity to hear some of
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that new album
42:37
i took we took him to harlem we went to
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go see
42:39
uncle god and and uncle guns and we went
42:42
up to harlem and rolled around and
42:43
listened to quantities out it's crazy
42:45
i'm like you know i gotta hold it back
42:47
i'm trying to be like you know that i'm
42:49
like yo that's hot and i'm like yo
42:51
that's hot
42:52
[Laughter]
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but thank you for sharing that y'all was
42:56
one of the first blended families we saw
42:58
in hip-hop yes you know with quincy kim
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puff and you um and and so i want to uh
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thank you for that but we could talk
43:05
more about all those things the next
43:07
conversation yeah no we're going we're
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going to rise we're going
43:16
yo give it up for this icon i'll be sure
43:18
march 26th
43:20
and peter peter gunn
43:22
is taking place
43:25
the celebrity
43:26
match the celebrity boxing match march
43:28
26 in atlantic city alby shore against
43:31
hazel the latin lover a flavor flavor
43:34
would be their treat to be their kid and
43:35
play performing gilly and wallow holston
43:38
peter guns to be there roy jones jr will
43:40
be there it's going to be off the chain
43:42
and uh the proceeds going to charity
43:44
i'll be sure i love you brother
43:46
i love you too my man let's go
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let's go peter
43:52
let's go
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