Malcolm Jamal Warner Reveals ALL! Must-Watch Podcast Launch! 📢 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

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this man has been wow in our lexicon
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since we
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were since birth I remember being in the
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nursery looking at TV seeing him uh the
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NS proba same but you know with it
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you'll run with it you know but but
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throughout these but throughout these
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defining eras he has transcended Heather
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be yes and he hasn't had to do much but
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be himself and that's when you know
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someone has become iconic doesn't follow
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Trends he sets them he ain't even
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concerned about them Trends attach
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themselves to him and we watch him
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evolve as a young man into a grown man
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as a thespian um as a poet as a musician
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um he's just been an outstanding
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individual he's been very open and
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transparent his emotional intelligence
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exceeds that of your average human being
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anytime you could be that open about who
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you are in your life and share that with
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the public that's an amazing thing so
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when I see this man I get
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chills oh man that my cells vibrate
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that's that kinetic energy that this man
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possesses Tracy G so whatever he touches
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I want to support I have to support I
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want to welcome him back to talk about
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his new podcast not all Hood AK all AKA
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n the one and only the iconic the
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legendary the amazing Malcolm Jamal
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Warner has retired
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d stand stand
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[Applause]
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standing
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[Applause]
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man get in Stand
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man come on man you are a pillar you are
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a
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fixer you got me on some uh on some
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Oprah [ __ ] right now A man come on man
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wow thank you they man they tear us down
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I've build us up It Ain't Easy Being who
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you are it hasn't been easy it's not
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when your life is in front of the world
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constantly consistently you have to
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navigate you got to do all that personal
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work you got to be deep all the time
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that that personal work is real that
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personal work is real so man I just want
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to let you know I was excited I got off
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a red eye y I said Heather and I were
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hosting an event this weekend in my
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hometown Oakland well we were actually
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in Berkeley I just like to shout out
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Oakland with kids who are excelling
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academically africanamerican kids who
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are doing well in their academics and
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that's that's what we want to normalize
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that's what we want to noriz we don't
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want that [ __ ] to be special we want
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that to be that's who we are that's what
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we do yes right we were saying that to
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him to the African-American educational
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the African-American Regional
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educational alliances Robin fer and Leah
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Fisher and we were saying to all these
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amazing 1500 kids at Zach h on the UC
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Berkeley campus um I took courses at UC
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Berkeley my mother made me in high
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school during the summertime that's why
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I had to point that out I should have
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been doing that in the summer playing
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ball but and we were talking to these
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kids and was like what do what are some
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of the things we like to celebrate the
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NBA Championship is here oh yeah right
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right uh somebody dropped a new album we
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celebrate when people come out of jail
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he got out of jail we have parties we
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want to
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normalize when people have AC every we
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want to celebrate everything that
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happens from shoulders up yeah man right
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doubt we going to celebrate we going to
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applaud the fact that you achieved your
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goal AC
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because that that represents the
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discipline the commitment the investment
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you made the personal investment that
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you made in yourself and those kids were
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and listen man I say that to say that
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you you have done the same thing for
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kids in terms of inspiring them just by
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even the characters you played but most
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importantly the person you the way
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you've walked when you're not on camera
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and when you're not on that mic so I was
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happy to get on that plane Malcolm Jamal
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Warner and not sleep um got to say and
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and so I I I appreciate that and I think
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one of the reasons why um the emotions
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came up for me is because I spent you
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know so much of the early part of my
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life listening to uh like being
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celebrated on one hand but paying way
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too much attention to the naysayers
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right like we we we we didn't we didn't
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have the term haters back then but you
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know like I grew up you know listening
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to kids who were like you know you know
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you you just America's favorite white
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black boy H right right so I grew up
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paying way too much attention to the
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people who for whatever their own
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reasons were giving me the opposite of
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love and even though I'm walking through
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life I'm getting all this
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love right not just in my home but I'm
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getting all this love from people but it
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was the the people who didn't like me
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that um you know that affected me more
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so now as an adult uh as a full grown
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adult um being able to like hear those
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things and really be able to accept them
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in a way that I hadn't before um it
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makes it like an emotional thing because
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it's like yeah like all that [ __ ]
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everything you said is true and I'm not
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and and you know I'm not on some you
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know not being on some ego [ __ ] but like
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really just receiving you know and
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allowing it um man letting it land yeah
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so that's why like you just got me on a
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you know also I've been up all night too
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but you just got me c you right you yeah
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dog yeah so thank you love man feel good
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to cry manit I wish I could have cried
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while I was saying it I'm damn near did
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when I saw you that's why I wouldn't
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look at you I ain't going to look at but
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you brought your team with you man you
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brought your team and and this the the
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the first one U that I want to introduce
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you know there's a I've come up and I
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didn't start off as somebody who wanted
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to be in journalism I just kind of
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landed in it because I was just taking
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any opportunity that came my way you
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know I started in as an artist and then
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I went into radio but not because I
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wanted to be a broadcaster it's because
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I needed a job right and I wanted to do
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it well that was just the hip hop in me
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you know we always wanted to excel back
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then it was about being an innovator
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being your own person but I learned I
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listened and learned and the the joiners
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of the world and all these different
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people I study and uh respected highly
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those folks who studied journalism
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broadcast journalism whatever kind of
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Journalism that it is so when I went to
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MTV News and I wanted to do more with
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that didn't consider myself a journalist
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but I learned it all I studied some of
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those people who were there the the John
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Norris's the Kurt loers and some of
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those music journalists that became
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iconic and I wanted to know my office
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was in between both of them so I'm
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taking information from this one
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information from that one put my own
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spin on it and then started I started
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covering more hard news you know
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shocking all when we did what we did in
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Iraq and um going on voting campaigns
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and being on the road with John Edwards
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and Senator Clinton and all and all of
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these different Senator mlan McCain
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before when he was running and just
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learning how difficult it is to do that
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kind of hard journalism correctly right
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yeah um where you're not in the way of
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the story and um you're able to find
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facts and people you could be the person
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that they that they Source check because
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you've always been so accurate and so
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I've watched your work over the years
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and I've never known you right but I
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knew you we just met in person for the
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first time so I have a special place for
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a level of
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Journalism that you've reached the
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quality U that you done the type of uh
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cases that you've covered the kind of
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work that you done so when I saw that
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you all were together I thought it was a
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great combination I wanted to know what
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it would sound like please welcome the
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one and only Candice Kelly to the
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show come on man's here
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her come on Candace welcome to the show
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well thank you thank you and let me say
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this you you are a journalist right we
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know that anybody who has stories to
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tell we talk about historians the way
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that they craft their story it's not
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just left to historians it's not just
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them which is why this show is so
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important to me that we're able to tell
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our own stories and reshape The
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Narrative about the stories that are out
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there about us because we think about
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you're talking about education all the
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young people that you came across how
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many in people in this in this room have
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had a black
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teacher black male teacher black female
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teacher I mean I mean unless they were
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teaching African Amer studies let's be
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real right but in terms of that
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mainstream so when we start telling our
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own stories and we continue to reshape
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that
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narrative it's good yeah right we have
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it in our own hands and and that helps
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it breaks down fear in other people so
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from one journalist to another I
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appreciate that introduction there you
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go come on Candace
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do come on
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Candace uh being on the road I I learned
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how important Community activism is
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right um and this is something I was
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born into uh being from Oakland that's a
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very politically charged environment my
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my mother and my uncle and aunties had
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uh pivotal roles in the civil rights
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movement and the movements that were
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happening at that time with the Black
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Panther Party and and as a youth I I
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used to go to the uh soup kitchens my
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mother would take me and you know where
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I'm going with this right and we're
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passing out food to the kids before I
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was a kid myself but before you went to
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school to make sure that you had the
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proper nourishment so you could retain
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the information right simply because of
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that you know kids weren't eating before
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they went to school you know and so they
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were suffering when it came to taking
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tests and all these other things and so
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I want to commend you this man has over
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30 years of experience right 30 plus
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years yeah right 30 plus years a art
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organizer he's worked with youth he's
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been in the community um 10 toes down
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these people are the most important
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people in the movement because you never
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see their face they don't make any money
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you know it's taxing on the
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family it's taxing on the family and
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it's taxing on the individual but it's
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the most selfless thing you can do when
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you put yourself and dedicate your life
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to the community I want to welcome him
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to the show the third member of naah
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give it up for the one and only wayi
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baraca myself
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yo come on
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man yes yes so yes yes I'mma hit you
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with something sway yes Uptown 116th yes
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right yes below where you used to stay
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oh [ __ ] uh a um a
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community community center right yes um
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oh man this was like 20 years ago B in
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my apartment building yeah downstairs
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right downstairs right downstairs you
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were working there I was working there
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I came in there a couple yeah
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y bang bang hey hey hey hey hey hey yeah
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time you off the J yeah dny
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you yo that's crazy yeah yeah I was I
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went a couple of times yeah you came
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down there like gave back to the
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community talk to the kids wow so I
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salute your work as well brother my man
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Mr Baraka I ain't mad at that man that's
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no relation this is I wasn't going to go
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[Laughter]
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I know you get that a lot welcome n to
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the show y'all come on man let's come
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back and talk to them can we come back
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and talk to y'all we going take we let
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y'all take over sway the morning what
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hether be at Tracy G you are now for the
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moment employees of serious X all right
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y'all want to ask them any questions
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about any current topics 888 742
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3345 let's go come on so we got the
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brand new podcast n is here you think we
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going to work this last hour Tracy
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G nah that's
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what that really that's an effective
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name of a
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podcast
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n man active for all these decades she's
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you know Court Reporting and all this
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stuff he's a you know Community acting
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now they want to get and be on our side
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of the mic hey
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to do sp decades building this thing up
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and they want to come and do what we do
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now you finally call yourself a
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journalist yeah right Candace gave me my
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confirmation journalist been doing his
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four decades and C you a journalist St
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put y not all Hood yeah tell me about it
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why we call it not all Hood
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way man that was a uh not all Hood
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because we're uh diverse in who we are
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um we are not all Hood we
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are the culmination of everything we are
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a little bit of this a little bit of
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that we're
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um uh de leopard the most death we can
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rock it all you know what I mean okay I
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like that death W I know right dich out
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I mean the the title uh came from way
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youi and like when he first you know
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said it I was like oh gosh that's it
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yeah you know because when we when we
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think about the when we refer to the
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black community we tend to uh speak as
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if it's a monolith right right but
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there's so many levels and so many lanes
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to the black community and not that we
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even have to all get along like I think
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there's this you know this misconception
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that we should all get along um I don't
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necessarily believe that human beings
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have been designed to all get along
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right everyone in Asia doesn't get along
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right everyone in Europe doesn't get
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along I think it's just it's human
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nature that we have differences and I
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feel like with this podcast this is a
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place where we can recognize all of
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those different Lanes acknowledge and
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discuss all of those different lanes and
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as long as we can have civil discourse
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and respectful challenge um then this is
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the space where we can all feel safe
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yeah right to express ourselves okay and
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we we've had this real
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Reckless Reckoning with race in America
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right so a lot of times we walk into
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rooms and spaces and people have an idea
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about who we are already and it and it's
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and it's not that we're all you know
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academics it's that we're all Hood yeah
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so many times you know you know the
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question um I will get the question a
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lot oh so can I help you you know or
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even growing up I remember you know
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going trick-or-treating and the neighbor
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saying oh what brings you to this
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neighborhood it's my neighborhood
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actually because they they' they have
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been trained in the systems that are out
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there and so as I said before when we
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talk about not all Hood we're really
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talking about telling stories and how
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we're not really all the same we're not
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a monolith like he says okay then let's
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put that to test let's put this Theory
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to test this proof of concept right here
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with not all so what we can do is we're
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going to throw y'all questions topics
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okay and watch y'all pontificate we'll
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get callers involved okay this is not
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all Hood we're going to give you a
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sample of what you can catch anytime
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anywhere if you want to listen to their
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podcast all you have to do is go to
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Spotify Apple music all the streaming
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services all the streaming Pandora too
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so just say yes just say yes just say
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yes someone shaking their head so that's
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a yes
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of course Pandora we got the rest of the
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team here so we're just checking in
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checking in with the production team
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okay I'm give Troy over there okay right
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everywhere yeah this is the
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headquarters all right all right so um
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before we let Tracy unleash I'm I'mma
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test you out
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un this nah this question is about the
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nword this was about the word let's get
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it nword the word n word because I'm one
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of the people who stayed away from it
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uhhuh right but I've been challenged by
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many folks who've given me some Heritage
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some lineage some history to the word
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and its Origins that has challenged why
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I stay away from it now torch here from
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Harlem that's that's his
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surname [ __ ] torch that's he loves it
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man I'm yeah that's what he likes the
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words become so popular that other races
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use it and they don't feel anything
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about it is this a word that we Vanquish
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this is a is this a word we Empower or
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is this because we are not all a
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monolith we could all choose how we use
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that word wait wait let's start with you
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wait the N word [ __ ] oh and all this
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with a r did you roll
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it was end though it was it was the the
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emphasis on the
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end and I say it with the with the with
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the
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in all the I say it all the ways okay
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when I say it it's not it's not that I I
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don't use it often I don't use it a lot
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but I'm I'm black and I have the right
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to use it if I want to um why do you
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want to I think that there are a vast
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majority a large swath of of of people
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that use it and identify it as a term of
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endearment their point of of contact
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with the word is
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love right they know the history got the
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grunts to my right but go ahead okay we
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know but we've had this
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conversation we know right yeah um that
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[ __ ] triggers me yeah it Trigg it's
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going to be triggering for some people
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and for other people it's going to be
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it's going to be love it's going to be
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Vibes of love but it's like that's my
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[ __ ] right there it's like I I quote I
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quote he's like yeah I quote um Dr
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Daniel black right and he says you know
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why would I borrow a term from people
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who hate me when I'm trying to speak
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love to my brothers and sisters so the
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concept of um you know you know keep you
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know we keep defending you know it
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should be our right to use the word
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because we've it's about love and we've
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taken the power away from it I say okay
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well let one of these hip song hip-hop
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songs play let your white friend
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sit next to you and say all the lyrics
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and use [ __ ] the whole way through and
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see how much power does not hold but why
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would I do that I'm not saying it
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doesn't hold power if it well that's
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part of the defense that you know we we
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we've turned it into a positive and
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we've taken the power away from the
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world there not an either or but then
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the question becomes well then where
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does it live because it is a part of our
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history right so we can't not ever say
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it right so when you go to an August
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Wilson play and they're whites and
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blacks sitting in there we all come from
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an arts background probably everybody in
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this room it it has to have a place and
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we clap after August it's okay then I
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mean in the art certainly I think that
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it definitely has a place but then
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people draw the line with hip hop and
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that's where it gets a little cloudy for
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me well if you're drawing why are you
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drawing it at hip hop but August Wilson
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is okay because well so I I have I have
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a a thing with August Wilson as well
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right um but those are the words that
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were using back then yes yes so that's
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why I have to like you know I I have
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toiz yeah I have to and have to honor
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that but I think what has happened with
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Hip-Hop Hip-Hop has now become not now
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it for a long time it's been
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predicated on [ __ ]
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[ __ ] the disrespect of other black
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people and it's so and I talk about you
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know we talk about uh how hip-hop is
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like you know so much of hip-hop is
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trash now but that the the subject
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matter of the trash hip hop we talk
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about it's the same [ __ ] we were
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listening to these young kid so we are
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complicit in what's happening with hipop
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now because these young kids have grown
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up watching us and listening to us
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listen to the the the the same antiblack
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misogynistic content the difference is
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the skill set is
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whack
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right so are you anti- artist like antiw
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I I I I I am at this point in my life
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I'm 53 years old I am anti any
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music that perpetuates the degradation
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of our people and unfortunately around
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so much of our hip-hop music listen I
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mean our hip-hop music some of our R&B
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music if you take the dope beats away so
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much of the lyrics are antiblack mm yeah
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no I hear you so to continue to kill
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that whole
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like spectrum of of
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art no I I just choose not so but that
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there boom you choose you make a
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decision where you engage and where you
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don't sure right sure um you this setup
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is funny because I'm right in the
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middle I'm right in the middle I want to
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Jack my cuz I'm short so you I want to
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be like but but Candace you don't hear I
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don't hear black women niggering as much
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I ain't saying they don't right right
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where you at but no we don't that's I I
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he you don't you you don't hear it like
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you hear how we agree to each other I
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don't hear women what what's up my [ __ ]
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no no agreed agreed I I just think that
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it's one of those things where you know
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we all come to the table with different
22:46
ideas about that word think about when
22:49
you first heard it what was the context
22:51
was it loving was it not then that
22:54
really carries you on through life the
22:56
same way we like conceptualize about
22:57
money how will we intr Ed to money
22:59
that's probably how we have kind of
23:01
worked our way around how we feel about
23:03
money today uh so I can remember for me
23:06
I mean my grandmother was born in what
23:09
1906 oh wow yeah well of course that was
23:12
a part not that she used it a lot but it
23:14
was triggering but when I but when she
23:16
said it and I remember once she said I
23:19
mean it was like the way you said it was
23:21
with the in you heard every the syllable
23:24
you heard the N you heard the I you
23:25
heard the G and I was like wow it was
23:27
worse than a curse word and I knew that
23:30
she meant it from her soul in that way
23:33
because of her history the way that she
23:34
came up with it now I have a different
23:36
meaning why because we were all in the
23:38
Arts so I have an Arts kind of
23:41
background to try to conceptualize the
23:43
word and where I see it figuring in and
23:45
it sets a real bad precedent I think to
23:47
say okay well it's okay in this context
23:49
or I have more respect for that but then
23:52
at hip hop we you know we cross over
23:54
it's just a bad precedent and we don't
23:56
have the tools to really fully judge in
23:58
that way you take the art and you do
24:00
like way yussi said with you you turn it
24:02
off if you don't like it or you don't go
24:04
to the August Wilson play or you don't
24:05
use it you take it because we all have
24:07
such different baggage that we bring to
24:10
the table with it but also I I think the
24:12
the thing that gets me now is there was
24:15
a time when it was our word right it was
24:18
our code but now we've just made it
24:20
available for the whole world to use it
24:23
and then we get mad when somebody not
24:25
black uses it but we made it available
24:27
to them made we've made [ __ ] so
24:31
cool to say we've made being antiblack
24:35
so [ __ ] cool and so dope cuz the
24:37
Beats anti but it's not always antiblack
24:39
bro okay but we're not but okay but
24:41
we're talking about we're talking about
24:42
what gets the most shine we're talking
24:44
about the the the the hip-hop that has
24:47
the uh most detrimental effect on the
24:51
psyche of young black men and women
24:54
that's what we're talking about okay
24:55
that's just a segment right there n hold
24:57
on way I just wanted to give
24:58
man they got to go they got to go listen
25:01
to the podcast to hear the r you see
25:03
what I'm doing here yeah that's just a
25:05
tip just a tip so they warmed up now so
25:07
what we going to do is have y'all join a
25:09
segment of our show called celebrity
25:11
wire with the one and only Tracy G you
25:14
do know that just being a celebrity and
25:16
having a good time is not a real job
25:18
right yeah it is being a famous
25:20
celebrity is the greatest thing in the
25:21
world reporting on The Good the Bad and
25:24
the what the hell it's celebrity wire
25:27
with Tracy G unway in the morning all
25:30
right Tracy break it down the good the
25:32
bad the what the hell they ready now
25:35
Tracy well I think this is a really
25:37
quintessential topic for y'all as a trio
25:41
because often times when we have
25:42
conversations around
25:45
objectification inappropriate touching
25:48
harassment It Centers the unfortunate
25:51
experiences of women right as it should
25:55
however we don't give enough attention
25:58
to the unfortunate experiences that
26:01
happened to men at the hands of women
26:04
and so um on Friday was the premiere of
26:07
the final season of power power book to
26:10
ghost right and we had the majority of
26:13
the cast here on the show to celebrate
26:15
it you know it's hella compelling wildly
26:18
popular especially within the black
26:19
community but what was spoken about more
26:22
than that episode was Michael Rainey Jr
26:26
who is the star of power when he was
26:29
doing a live streaming session with a
26:32
really popular streamer by the name of
26:33
Tai Tai now Tai Tai's sister is a
26:37
tremendous fan of Michael makes sense
26:40
because he's young he's drippy and of
26:43
course he stars on power but her
26:46
excitement broke a very clear boundary
26:49
when on camera she ended up grouping
26:53
Michael Rainey Jr yes inappropriate
26:57
touching without any consent against his
27:00
will and so he ended up sharing about
27:03
this situation on Instagram I'll read
27:05
you really quickly his statement he said
27:07
at this point everyone has seen the
27:08
video I am still in shock and don't
27:10
fully know how to process what happened
27:12
this is an unfortunate situation that I
27:14
do not condone in any way I can't take
27:17
it lightly because I know I would be in
27:20
serious trouble if the roles were
27:23
reversed the fact is sexual assault is
27:26
never okay regardless of gender or
27:29
status we're all human and we should
27:31
respect each other most importantly we
27:33
should always respect
27:36
ourselves and so for y'all why do you
27:39
think when men are victims of this type
27:42
of behavior it's not taken as seriously
27:45
there isn't as much urgency around the
27:48
issue as it is for
27:51
women wow n is here not
27:55
all podcast
28:00
I mean we know that
28:02
um men and
28:05
sexuality and patriarchy and
28:08
power hold a special place in American
28:11
society right um we know that the role
28:17
of the man is um
28:20
often uh defined through their sexual
28:24
proudness right so when men are harassed
28:30
um inappro and you know groped
28:33
inappropriately that it seemed like oh
28:37
like yeah she on you son you know um
28:40
it's a compliment exactly it scen as a
28:42
compliment
28:45
um that's dumb as [ __ ] you know what I
28:48
mean like it's like yeah we don't it it
28:52
it makes no sense um
28:55
the the way Society sees it is is ass
29:00
backwards like there's no real reason to
29:02
it it's American it's the American way M
29:06
you know what I mean but I think there
29:08
there that yes and and I think there is
29:12
a uh there's been a long time taboo yes
29:16
when it comes to men and vulnerability
29:20
boom right so it would be very
29:23
vulnerable for a man to say to some
29:28
somebody or have the complaint that this
29:30
woman groped me right this woman was
29:33
feeling on me this woman was was was was
29:35
pressing up against me hard um because
29:39
most dudes be like dude you tripping
29:42
right what you complaining about right
29:44
um so it's a very vulnerable thing to
29:47
say that was
29:49
uncomfortable um and I
29:52
think people like like like we never
29:54
talk about um men who are
29:58
um and it's it's a weird because we
30:00
never even use the word rape yeah right
30:03
but men because when we say when we
30:05
think about men rape you think about a
30:06
man raping another man but we don't look
30:09
at the uh the sexual assault that's
30:12
right rap when a woman is you know
30:15
involved with with a man yeah um and I
30:18
think it's so I think so there's a
30:20
there's a very vulnerable place to even
30:22
admit that there is discomfort in that
30:25
because if anything you know as as as
30:28
boys as men we're supposed to like
30:29
that's supposed to be a compliment grow
30:31
up you dog grab right right right but
30:35
that's a so that's a societal thing like
30:38
yeah I think it's really hard for uh you
30:40
know for society uh to see that as a
30:43
problem and because of that it's hard
30:45
for men to voice discomfort yeah and not
30:49
only voice discomfort when we speak
30:51
about women and what we go through not
30:53
only just voicing discomfort and saying
30:55
now it's time to report the rape m or to
30:58
report the sexual assault now think of a
31:01
man having to do that and then we need
31:02
to file a lawsuit right so all of that
31:06
is just very difficult process because
31:08
of the way that Society has built up men
31:11
and how they're the ones who are
31:12
supposed to be in charge when you have a
31:14
situation where it seems like they are
31:16
not in charge they don't want to admit
31:17
to that and live up to it but the next
31:20
steps for people to do if they do feel
31:21
like they are assaulted in some way
31:23
touched in some way um you should follow
31:26
a lawsuit now that's when people really
31:28
start taking you seriously I mean why is
31:31
it that we go to Instagram and then all
31:33
every all we're worrying about is an
31:34
algorithm you should be in court filing
31:37
a lawsuit because this is a sexual
31:39
assault so if you want to be taken
31:41
seriously you have to use the system and
31:44
that's something that you know women had
31:46
to get over too because the system
31:48
didn't believe us for so long and then
31:50
they put you through the whole process
31:51
again well men you have to go through
31:54
that too and set a precedent for other
31:56
men to step up and say this shouldn't be
31:58
happening to us either and we have been
32:00
seeing some of that in some recent
32:02
lawsuits in terms of this yeah you know
32:05
um uh to say this is what's happening to
32:07
me but it is a scary process but men
32:10
have to use the system in that way I
32:12
love that okay have the be you want to
32:13
tap in yeah because I want to tap in go
32:15
ahead N I think you know specifically
32:17
the black men just engaging you know the
32:20
authorities is a whole another level to
32:22
it oh yeah that's true that's triggering
32:24
that's a whole another trauma yeah right
32:27
uh Heather you want to yeah because my
32:28
question sort of then Taps into all of
32:30
that um black men the authorities the
32:32
system because we here now we're dealing
32:35
with a situation where people are now
32:36
starting to ban music based on cases and
32:40
charges that's right so I would love to
32:42
get your thoughts on that because you
32:44
have a Tupac who is beloved but he went
32:47
to jail convicted for rape and we Still
32:50
Rock his music
32:52
mhm consistently right then we have a
32:56
mystical who's sitting in jail now for a
32:58
third time um we still play his music
33:01
for rape and these different charges you
33:04
have puff now dealing with the situation
33:06
that we saw the video um lot of stations
33:09
refuse to play his music R Kelly refused
33:11
to play his music how do you what is you
33:14
guys opinion for you how we we have n
33:17
here not all Hood how you cherry pick
33:21
and you decide because for us it's wild
33:24
like it's wild to sit here sometimes we
33:27
every day every dayer through music
33:29
music like okay n n to him yes to him
33:33
but he has a charge and convicted but we
33:35
Still rocking his music cuz power to the
33:37
people but no to this person his case is
33:40
pending
33:41
right domestic violence
33:43
cases like what what do you guys think
33:46
well first of it's it's crazy the whole
33:48
hating on on uh Diddy and hating on R
33:54
Kelly people didn't hate on them in Mass
33:57
until it became fashionable to hate on
34:00
them everybody knew what R Kelly was
34:02
doing 20 years ago everybody knew what
34:06
puffy was doing 20 years ago but now all
34:09
of a sudden it's cool to hate on him
34:12
it's cool to not play their music Cloud
34:14
chasing well hold on okay so you know
34:19
yeah you're talking about hating the
34:21
system finally caught up if it 1990 was
34:24
different than 2000 2000 was different
34:27
than 200000 0 now we're in 2024 can't
34:31
let somebody touch a woman the wrong way
34:33
they've got the power today but it
34:35
wasn't like that in 1990 it's been a
34:37
culture shift yeah it's it's it's a
34:38
culture shift and so with that in mind I
34:41
think that's why you know Tupac right
34:43
because it was a different time today it
34:46
it you know R Kelly and on I mean really
34:49
the system started to really rise to the
34:51
occasion with the meoo movement and
34:53
people finally paying attention and I
34:55
think that maybe we've seen a cultural
34:57
shift that hopefully will stay in place
34:59
I think I think too DJs played a big
35:02
part of it and this is just my opinion I
35:04
think DJs decided who they wanted to be
35:07
in bed with or not because to Malcolm's
35:09
point a lot of people knew a lot of
35:12
people knew maybe it wasn't something
35:13
that they all expressed on air but
35:15
people in the circles knew and DJs
35:18
decided because some people records did
35:20
not get played trust and
35:23
believe they for other reasons beefing
35:27
with the crew
35:28
records didn't geted but these other
35:31
records did so that's it's just a funny
35:34
thing so I just wanted
35:36
to okay come on y ain't got a deep dive
35:39
out you know good tapping on that we got
35:42
some more though this is this is what
35:45
what what what I love about uh our three
35:48
different voices because very clearly
35:50
I'm very strong on how I see things um
35:53
but I love having the conversation
35:55
because I love you know Candace where we
35:56
have a different perspective
35:58
that makes me like okay yeah there is
36:01
that and and and I think the the
36:02
important thing of this podcast is again
36:05
we can allow for difference uh of
36:07
opinions and different perspectives and
36:10
though it may not change our point of
36:13
view it at least allows for room to see
36:16
something differently thought process
36:19
okay I like I still think you're wrong
36:21
no I'm Tracy we're still in the middle
36:23
of celebrity wire all right what else
36:25
you got y'all still working I told I
36:28
told them in the lobby y'all working
36:31
just trying to get out of work y
36:34
he three but I I did want to say just
36:37
say real real quick about about Michael
36:38
rainy Jr okay um I think it's very bold
36:42
of him to be able to to make that
36:44
statement I think it's dope that we are
36:46
in a place where he can make that
36:49
statement and not get clowned for it
36:51
right that's progress that is yeah
36:54
absolutely czy what else you got also on
36:56
the subject of progress you know we're
36:58
still celebrating 50 years of hip-hop
37:01
right and what I love about it is it's
37:04
created so many intergenerational
37:06
conversations right because one of the
37:09
critiques we've had about hip-hop over
37:10
the years is it being agist and how we
37:13
can get past that and transcend um and
37:17
recently was Hot 97's Summer Jam so this
37:20
conversation came up again because one
37:23
of our good friends on the show metham
37:25
man and red man they both performed and
37:29
Method Man I'm sure y'all have seen he
37:32
made his commentary he showed love he
37:34
gave thanks for the invite but he also
37:37
highlighted what he believed to be a
37:39
generational Gap right and said that he
37:42
would not be performing so different
37:45
folks interpreted this way interpreted
37:47
that way but TMZ actually caught up with
37:49
him and he further explained his
37:51
sentiment here it is you know what I'm
37:53
upset about cuz I wasn't mad at the
37:55
crowd if you look at the the caption or
37:57
the comment that I left there's words
37:59
like thank you I love you yes just a
38:02
generation gap I showed Grace yep you
38:04
did for the feedback that it's gotten I
38:06
don't think it's fair for one and for
38:08
two I would never point my finger at a
38:11
crowd for not liking my music that's not
38:14
even it I was there for Mr seat and it
38:16
was New York so I figured I'm in New
38:18
York I'm in my backyard people know who
38:21
I am right so you feel like it was kind
38:22
of misconstrued absolutely misconstrued
38:25
I wasn't mad at the crowd that was me
38:27
having a self awar this moment well all
38:29
right okay more power to the self-
38:31
awareness moment too yeah always love
38:34
how do you guys Define generational Gap
38:37
and do you feel like we have it in more
38:38
places than just hip-hop as a black
38:42
community well first I want to say that
38:44
that that ticket that he was on you know
38:47
I just don't think it was the right
38:48
ticket I mean I you know I don't know
38:49
who promoted it I don't know who pulled
38:51
it together but you know you know um
38:55
when I looked on there I was like well
38:57
okay I know some of these people but I
38:59
know I knew him so his performance I I
39:02
can understand where he was coming from
39:04
but I just think that he should not have
39:05
been on that ticket that I think that
39:07
that that was a problem that's why we
39:08
said here we were wondering we first
39:10
heard about it I'm glad he specified I
39:12
was there for Mr C so they must have
39:15
taken a minute out of the show to honor
39:18
Mr C a tribute it was a tribute section
39:21
of this bigger concert yeah so maybe
39:24
that's we cuz we asked the same question
39:26
initially he clarified cuz we thought
39:28
maybe he was just there for Mr C right
39:31
right but but your question the
39:33
generational problem um there this is
39:36
the generational problem right here the
39:37
phone that that's right the iPhone
39:39
that's right because C everybody is on
39:42
sorry sorry Candace doesn't have an
39:44
iPhone you know what I knew he was going
39:46
to do that I said the cell
39:48
phone it Tak better like
39:52
the talk to him Candace it does take
39:54
better pictur she's Queen green bubble
39:57
piur but this this is the gap right here
40:00
you know why everybody's looking down
40:03
nobody knows how to talk face to face
40:05
like you and I um it's yeah it is it is
40:08
very difficult you know these people
40:10
young Stu people often cannot even write
40:12
a an email without without using
40:15
initials because they're so used to yeah
40:18
CH you know they're they're so used to
40:19
so that is the generational Gap how in
40:22
my estimation how are we communicating
40:24
with each other because if you can't
40:26
communicate if you can't can't speak to
40:27
me if you can't form a sentence and look
40:29
me in the eyes we're going to have a gap
40:31
right there please bring up what we
40:33
started the show with the conversation
40:35
you and Heather your experience this
40:36
weekend well the event we hosted was
40:39
1500 grade school kids in high school in
40:43
high school and they couldn't smile they
40:47
didn't have a expression one way or the
40:49
other the whole time to the point where
40:50
Heather and I was on stage I start
40:52
calling them out wow like y what's going
40:55
on are We that boring you know and then
40:58
uh but we we start having this same
41:00
conversation organically this morning
41:02
and I said exactly what you were saying
41:05
yeah um one of our listeners brought
41:07
that up too that it's the communicate
41:10
socialization is a thing of the past now
41:12
they're not being properly socialized
41:14
they are not that they're interacting
41:17
through that party chat one onone you
41:19
know back and forth on the video games
41:22
there's nobody behind you that's not
41:24
even wind in your face you can't even
41:25
hear cars hking you know you don't smell
41:27
anything you're never around people so
41:30
you get around more than anybody other
41:32
than your parent or somebody you know or
41:34
love you don't really know how to
41:35
interact and so Heather these kids was
41:38
just like stoneface and we doing our
41:41
song and dance I'm doing my Malcolm you
41:43
know the of the comy
41:45
show I'm doing his dance you know and
41:49
but afterwards though like it was
41:51
something afterwards for the meet and
41:52
greet they were totally different yeah
41:54
it was unbelievable but I said to sway
41:57
at that moment I realized it was their
41:59
phones yeah they did not have their
42:01
phones but once they they were
42:03
traumatized probably they were
42:04
traumatized they were sitting there too
42:06
long without a phone but the meet and
42:08
greet they had their phones in their
42:10
hand they were back into Comfort level
42:13
Comfort level that's like they blanket
42:15
yeah there's a great book um I may be I
42:20
it may be wrong I think it's called the
42:21
anxious generation I'mma look it up just
42:24
to make sure I'm biging up the right
42:25
book because my my wife is reading it M
42:27
um and it it talked it talks about cell
42:31
phone use amongst young people and how
42:34
the depression rate has jumped up to
42:38
like
42:38
150% over the last couple years is it
42:41
you looking at is it is it the
42:43
generation what it Kanani this our we're
42:45
talking about your generation so you
42:47
might as well chime in he's only 21 he's
42:49
the culprit we're really talking about
42:52
him the culprit man what's it called the
42:55
anxious generation that's the name of
42:56
the book yeah yeah it's a great uh Deep
42:59
dive uh into like the real numbers of of
43:04
of the effect of young people and and
43:06
these cell phones and He suggests that
43:08
you know kids should not have a cell
43:11
phone I think until 14 and shouldn't
43:13
have a shouldn't have a smartphone until
43:16
like 16 17 they have a smartphone too
43:19
they're
43:20
smart wait you want to weigh in on that
43:22
no cuz I think there's a um the
43:24
generation gap thing is is kind of funny
43:26
because we've got a responsibility as
43:27
being Elders that's right to to
43:30
monitoring the the you know their their
43:33
screen time um and reaching out to to
43:36
Youth and engaging them in spaces and
43:39
with energy that um that perpetuates and
43:43
and promotes them having these soft
43:44
skills and making sure they can have
43:46
these conversations right um sometimes
43:50
it's you know just saying what's up bro
43:53
yeah yeah you know uhhuh I'm not sure
43:55
how I feel about that word Elder but
43:56
okay well you know yo we gotta
43:59
Embrace Embrace that thing like you know
44:04
I'd like to believe that we are you know
44:08
in our age range that we are actually
44:11
the
44:12
bridge between the generation gap right
44:15
we have access to our elders but you
44:19
know 50s is different from 50s even 20
44:22
years ago so there's still a there's
44:26
still a connection
44:27
that uh we can have with young people
44:30
right um our elders may not be able to
44:33
say what up
44:34
bro right but we can still so so there
44:38
is a there is a certain uh uh
44:41
responsibility if you will definitely if
44:43
you want to take it on right that we can
44:46
be that generation gap to you know pull
44:49
some young heads aside and and be like
44:51
yo come on bro that's not that's not
44:52
cool I like that man or or or hey bro
44:55
I'm proud of you right
44:59
y that's what we were doing like because
45:01
those kids were
45:03
so flat right so after they received the
45:07
awards that this amazing africanamerican
45:10
Regional educational alliances
45:13
organization gave all of these kids
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Heather and I said Heather just start
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let's stand at the end of the line and
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no matter what I'mma make them shake my
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hand amen and talk to me and I'm we
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going to we C what's up brother I'm
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proud of you that feel good right yeah
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it does feel good okay cool you look
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amazing look at you young lady conat
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high five you their first eye contact in
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well some of them tried to skip Sway and
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he was calling him back they were trying
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to run past get back here you
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too work like they were going through
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withdrawal really you be all for that
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long you are really you know in a in a
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Gaye days and that's what y'all were
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looking at they they needed that phone
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to you know to shoot up but engaging
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that positivity is something about too
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right cuz we can sit there and we can
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talk about all the bad things but we
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trying to encourage and and promote the
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positive things the things we love the
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things we like the things we want to see
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the diversity of the people that we we
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that we are you know what I mean no
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doubt that's what n is all about that's
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is all about not all Hood now we know
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what it's all about y'all got an episode
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today right come on make sure you check
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them out alling platforms we love you
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malol we love you we love you thank you
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what does your name mean where you see
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baraca uh-huh black blessing black
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blessings wow black blessings gorgeous
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Candace you are powerful thank you thank
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you you're powerful Candace keep doing
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that work we love you too okay this is n
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right here y'all

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