Bozoma Saint John On New Memoir The Urgent Life, My Story of Love, Loss, and Survival

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I am here to testify that I am a
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butterfly today
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yeah I feel it I feel it I feel it and
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I'm I'm flying in my life
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that's right there keep those going
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towards
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keep those going that's the voice of
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power right there HP I know it for a
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fact I witness it for myself we talked
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about this earlier if you ever been
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through love lost and survival this book
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that she has written is made for you
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it's called the Urgent life my story of
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love lost his survival let me give you
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some insight of who I'm speaking about
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this woman has been a business person
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the author a marketing executive she was
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she was the CMO at Endeavor Tracy G she
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was the chief brand officer at Uber
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Tracy G and Heather B she worked for
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Apple music she worked with Beats Music
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alongside Dr Dre and
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another guy Jimmy Ivory there you go
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smack History Month the fit top 50 most
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influential female leaders in Africa
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with the corporate and business sphere
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by Leading Ladies of Africa she worked
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at PepsiCo but let me tell you this
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[Applause]
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she was very instrumental um in the trip
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that I had that I often say changed my
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life when I left for Ghana and how I
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came back are two different people
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because of that experience and I only
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wish I had gone sooner but I'm glad I
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was able to make it and the work that
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she's been doing Serving as a bridge for
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us people from Africa descent here in
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the states and people of Africa born and
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raised has been phenomenal
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um it's been unwavering it's been
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steadfast and I watch it I hear friends
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of Mines Ebro different folks who have
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gone over to Ghana and talked about
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their experiences it really motivated me
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to take that trip when Chance the Rapper
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invited me to come and be a part of this
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amazing experience that he created and
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this is what we officially met we party
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together
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[Laughter]
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but in this book that she's written
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um she really gets in deeper about who
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she is in her journey I told her I knew
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of her but I only knew the accolades now
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I know realize that I know the person so
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I want to welcome her to the show The
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One and Only Boze my Saint James Saint
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John
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welcome to the show thank you so much
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thank you very much
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[Applause]
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you are amazing thank you I'm mad at
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myself I feel like it should have been
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bigger
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you hold a special place in my heart you
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know in in Sam over there too that works
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with you you guys do a lot of great work
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together I know you guys do the New
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Year's Eve event yes I bet you put
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together people come from all over the
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world I know his family um owns the
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island right our Proprietors of the
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island at this event happens on and
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people from all over the diaspora come
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and celebrate and tell the stories and
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and build and bond and make I made
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relationships over in Ghana that I'll
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never forget and that I would never been
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that man right there Sam man just can
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can he get in the camera
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listen Minstrel and uh Sam man they I
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met Mr on the plane and we just started
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talking and we just bonded and it was
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just coming to Ghana just allow us to
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really strip ourselves of our of our
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Shields of the walls that we carry here
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in the state not just physical but
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psychologically right and so anybody
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that I met there was like it felt like I
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was making a brother damn take a seat
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keep it up for Sam man yeah
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Sam's uh uh also a former NFL player had
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to be I don't know if you recognize his
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side right his size right now you know
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and uh Sam um my life my last day in
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Ghana
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I still haven't processed gun it will
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take you some time it's going to take
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some time yes
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um my last day this man offered to drive
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me to the El Camino castles
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um
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where else did we go we went to
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um uh the park with the bridges cocoon
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for us yep um and we stopped on the way
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back to the hotel or to go catch my
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flight we stopped along the side of the
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road and Sam wanted to pick up some
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pineapples for the resort
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and so we went shopping for Pineapples
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uh it's a fresh pineapple not no plastic
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containers never had them before though
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I'm telling you it's worth the stuff it
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was worth the Stop and I sat and I said
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hey man I'm gonna go ahead and sit over
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here and I sat and just kind of observed
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um the scenery and the environment
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around us and one of the things I love
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most of these townships people have
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um um monetarily less than we have but
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they looked happier than most of the
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people I know and that I see in our own
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environment it's real you know and I got
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to shake hands with kids and try to
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communicate with folks you know folks
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spoke English the whole nine so that
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trip we took man it stuck with me in my
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heart so I'm forever indebted to you
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okay so you're a brother to me now okay
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[Applause]
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Sam's all right with Me Sam say
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something man say something man you know
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like you man I mean you said and you
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watch Africa for years right from afar
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and it's the same thing and you know
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I've sat and watch you from afar so I
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was was um with admiration right so I'm
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I didn't grow up in it music or
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entertainment industry I played Sports
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all my life and had the opportunity to
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transition into business and so um when
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the opportunity arose to take you there
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I didn't look at you like I'm taking
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sway it's another black man who's
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essentially you know all got all my
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words together this morning but who's
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been lied to right yeah and so this is
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an opportunity for me to you know help
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him see the truth yeah and so um I
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wanted to give you the raw experience
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not the tourism experience so uh one of
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my family members bought my pickup truck
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over and we took a you know we took a
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little drive out there and uh we got it
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in and uh
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some of the things that happened that
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day I mean some of the things that we
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were able to see some of the people that
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we were able to connect with
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um for me I want to do that a million
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times yeah for a million people right
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because I believe you have to pay it
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forward and you have to continue to uh
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push the agenda that we can go and have
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the life that we so choose to have in
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America and sometimes difficult we can
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have that same life back on absolutely
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man Sam Barrington give that man a round
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of applause Minstrel Raymond came with
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us and we just had a hole in the process
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that we we covered so much hip-hop my
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brain got frequency these guys was
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asking so many questions right yeah and
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uh so that's amazing but can I call you
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what everyone else calls you now or
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what's that both oh yeah okay
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that's fine um
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you were born in Connecticut but raised
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in Ghana right yeah yeah okay what was
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the talk about culturally what's what's
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some of the differences in Ghana being
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raised and Ghana than we experience here
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in the states well I mean when I was um
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a kid like you said I was born in
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Connecticut because my dad was getting
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uh his graduate degrees
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um and when he graduated he is a he's a
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pan-africanist you know and so he comes
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from the same area that Kwame nkrumah
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came from he believes in you know Africa
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for Africans not meaning just those who
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are born on the continent but every
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black person and so for instance like
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you know a lot of Africans have adopted
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English names you know it's like a first
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names when you go to school they call
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you by your English name when you're at
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home they call you your ghanian name and
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he refused to give us any English names
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you know so as soon as he was done uh
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with his school he was like look I'm
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going back to the continent which was
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actually quite
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um a shock I think at the time because
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because what was happening is remember
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when WB Du Bois talk about the town to
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10th yeah what was happening was that
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people were taking the top 10 percent of
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talent right out of the continent and
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putting them in the diaspora so what
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would happen is you would promise them a
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better life somewhere else and so that
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meant that the brain power was leaving
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the continent and going into these other
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places to help build those structures
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right and you were then you know
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promised something that probably wasn't
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going to come to fruition because
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anybody told you that you were going to
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be discriminated against yeah you're
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going to be given less opportunities you
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were going to probably not Prosper the
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way that you dreamed uh if you hadn't
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just stayed on the continent you know so
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after he graduated he went uh he took my
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mom and I back to Ghana to build and he
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ended up being a lecturer at the
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University of Ghana then he went into
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politics so he was in liman's government
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which was then overthrown by J.J
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Rawlings in the military coup d'etat
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which meant that we then had to escape
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Ghana
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um did he go to jail though yes he went
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into he went to jail they captured him
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and he went into jail and my mom by that
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point had me and three girls she was
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pregnant with my with her fourth child
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my last sister
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um and we escaped in the dead of night
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while my dad was in political detention
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they were killing people every day
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torturing them and we didn't know
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whether or not he was alive or dead but
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my mom got us out of the country
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um I still don't know how she did it
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yeah I really did you didn't ask her
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yeah but you know I think that type of
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stuff is hard to talk about okay you
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know it must have been so much trauma to
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leave your home your country you know
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where like you've created all these
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dreams and aspirations you're building
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your family and then something that
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traumatic happens your husband is gone
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you don't know whether or not he's alive
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you got to get these three kids plus
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you're pregnant you got to get out you
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know like that's it's hectic so she
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talks about it a little a bit but I
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think she has kept a lot of the um
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more terrible stuff to herself what was
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it like for you because I know when you
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went to college you talk about
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um you know really immersing yourself in
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on the college campus and really
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straddling the fence of Two Worlds how
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long did that happen for you when you
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immediately came to the back to the
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States yeah yeah pretty immediate I mean
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when we came back
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um for good I was 12. and we went to
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Colorado Springs Colorado which uh damn
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y'all what the cop went from Colorado
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from Ghana to Colorado yeah
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it's always like yeah the end of October
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was almost November and
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um you know the amazing thing though is
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that it it forced me to learn to do what
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I do now which is that I have to find
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connections with people regardless of
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who they are you know it's like I don't
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walk into rooms and just see strangers I
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always see people and I'm just like
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there's got to be something I have in
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common with this person you know and so
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that has actually helped me open up on
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that I mean when I went to Colorado yeah
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they were looking at me crazy because
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what they were used to was seeing the
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kids from Africa with distended bellies
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with the Flies on their eyes had the
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picture on the fridge that said send
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this child one cent for a day so they
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looked at Black Faces every single day
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and assumed that they were less assume
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that their their worth was less than
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their own and so by the time I showed up
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they had all kind of questions but I
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really don't blame them because they
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hadn't been told anything else yeah so
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when they said like is this the first
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time you've worn clothes and I'd like to
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them like you don't know that we created
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thread wow yeah did you know that we
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created fabric that like kente cloth is
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the oldest living type of material there
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is you don't know that you know where
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that they said like oh do you eat monkey
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brains and I'm like you have no idea the
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kind of Cuisine that we have on the
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continent clap that up towards okay or
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they asked about you know like sports or
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music or any other thing that they
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thought was new to me and I'm like no I
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don't know your stuff but you don't know
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mine either so you can't call me like
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the ignorant one yeah yeah yeah but they
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didn't we don't know well they and we
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don't know our stuff these things we see
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that um our our history our legacies are
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being attacked constantly in our
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education programs we see what's
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happening in Florida right now and how
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during Black History Month yes yes yes
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how much is trying to be censored right
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and so when you when you come over here
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what are some of the biggest lies you've
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heard people repeat out Africa oh my
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gosh uh where did I even start but also
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I just I also want to say the fact that
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um you know I realized that we've been
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lied to all of us but we know that yes
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so like why don't we take it upon
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ourselves to educate you know what I
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mean or at least be open to a different
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narrative there's way too much of the
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divisiveness that I still feel you know
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when I tell people that like oh you know
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you should come with me to Ghana and
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they'll be like Oh I thought Africans
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hated black people they hated you know
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African-Americans and I'm just like can
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we stop that please yeah like can you
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you come you come and you tell me
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whether or not you feel hated you know
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don't listen to the talk and the
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narrative because those are still lies
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the people have been trying to feed us
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for 400 years yeah it has the same
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divisiveness if they can keep us apart
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then of course it can control us so for
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me it's like look that's one the next is
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that um actually I got this from the
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current president of Ghana when we met
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in 2017
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um he was here for the United Nations
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General Assembly and in 2017 he was
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petitioning to have 2019 marked as a
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year of return right because it would it
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would
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um cement 400 years since the beginning
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of transatlantic slave trade and he won
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the year returned because he said look
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everybody of African descent in the
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entire world should come back to Africa
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not necessarily to live he wasn't saying
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like you know we're taking everybody
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back he was just like look I need you to
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touch the soil I need you to feel where
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your roots are you know and then you can
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go back out but the thing that he said
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during his speech that um really changed
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my perspective and made me realize that
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as an adult I can do something because
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don't we all feel powerless sometimes
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you feel like Society is so you know
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messed up and you you know it's like all
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of these issues that you're just like
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well we need bigger policies about you
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don't feel like you as an individual can
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do something yes but when I heard him
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say this statement I was like oh I see I
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need to use the power that I have the
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talent I have as a marketer to change
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the narrative he said until the content
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of Africa is respected no person of
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African descent anywhere in the world
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would be respected
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um and I was like he's right yeah and it
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took me back to when I was 12. and all
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of those pictures of the kids with
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distended bellies don't think that just
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because you come from Brooklyn or you're
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from Detroit or you're from Orlando that
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they see you differently than that
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little kid with distended bellies who is
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worth one cent yeah don't ever make that
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mistake so as soon as I heard him say
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that knew my own experiences here I was
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like oh man I've been doing marketing
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for all of these big enormous global
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companies I'm in charge of the marketing
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like I have budgets that are huge why
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can't I use my talent to help change The
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Narrative of Ghana for one yeah Africa
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as a general idea and concept and black
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people as an even bigger one I can do
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that yeah I love it man give it up y'all
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both my sunshine is here Sam Barrington
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is here
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and I tell you
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um I I I'll be I'll be honest with you
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balls I have not my sister uh you know
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my oldest sister my older brother my
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sister's very uh spiritually grounded
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and we we've been trying to find the
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words of
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um this pilgrimage I took you know
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um to to Ghana you know my my we traced
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back our history to uh Ghana Nigeria
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Benin all these Mali on these different
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places I've never felt the feeling I
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felt when I landed in Ghana I'm telling
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you I I can't even put it to words yeah
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it was all I saw was black folks
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everywhere at every stage from
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government on down it was amazing and
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when people looked at me it wasn't with
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any Prejudice no well so do you know
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what that feels like growing up in the
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United States yeah and people were so in
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my case I didn't realize how much how
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influential my career had been in Africa
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so it was so many people coming up to me
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from Ghana it humbled me you know it
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really humbled me I walked with that
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anyway
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um uh so that people can approach me but
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it was uh I'm already you know I want to
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buy property there my auntie my cousin
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Brenda I met her at the hotel we were
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staying at she moved to Ghana maybe
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three years ago after our
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um our big cousin birthday her mother
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passed away and the whole family looked
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at her like what are you doing yeah
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you're gonna move to Ghana do you have a
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plan you know and I told her I was
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coming no one's from the family seen her
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since then hmm
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I got a chance to hug I was the first
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person from the family to see her since
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she left for Ghana and it was so many
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things was happening for me Chance the
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Rapper's family the whole nine Sam the
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whole nine so I've been encouraging
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folks to not only go visit but to invest
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yes my cousin bought property there
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she's Building Homes there why not you
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know why not bring it all back bring a
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lot of it back to Ghana
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um reading your book
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when I start finding out more about you
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I want to um say uh thank you for
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sharing so much I'm I'm wondering the
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Urgent life my story of love loss and
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survival uh when did when did you start
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seeing life through that lens from from
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a place of urgency yeah
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um well
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like we've just been talking about you
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know it's like
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and you said this as well that uh you
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know the accolades yes you know the
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headlines it's like in the business
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world and the corporate spaces I'm known
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as one thing you know it's like somebody
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who's a Trailblazer I go into companies
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I you know I'm not gonna call me
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Unapologetic and blah blah you know
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there's all these like big big big words
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that are used to make it seem as if I'm
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some sort of superhero you know
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um but the reality is I'm I'm a human a
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woman who's been through a lot of trauma
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and loss you know and um I remember once
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somebody was uh trying to I don't know
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probably make me feel good you know and
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they're just like man you know you're
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gonna go down the history books people
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are gonna know you for all your
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accomplishments like it's so amazing and
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I looked at them and it hit me I was
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just like but I don't want to be known
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and praise for my accomplishments I want
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to be known and praise for what I've
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overcome yeah you know the things that I
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was able to experience and then move
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through you know to get to the next
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thing and so I started writing the book
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probably uh
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a couple decades ago in my head okay
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okay through experiences but two years
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ago is when I put pen to paper you know
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and started writing because it just felt
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like especially the start of the
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pandemic you know people were going
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through so much type of loss some
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through you know illness and family
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members and Friends dying but also like
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loss of identity loss of
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Community like you know your whole mind
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was kind of screwed up you were sitting
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at home people were in a panic things
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were happening you know and it just
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brought it to light that uh I wanted to
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write about the fact that yes you can go
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through loss you can go through trauma
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um but you can still survive these
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things and not just survive you can
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Thrive but I would say that the moment
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that I really understood what urgency
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meant was in 2013 when my late husband
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was diagnosed with cancer and for me at
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that time like you know look I was still
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very active you know I've never been a
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patient person yeah I've always been
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like yo if I want to do something I'm
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going to do right now you know it's like
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hey you want to go see something let's
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go like this minute I'm not waiting for
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anything right but urgency took on a
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different meaning about intention when
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you know you're looking at somebody who
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you love who you've built a life with
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who is facing the end of their life and
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they know it and you know it you know
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and the days are numbered and the thing
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is that like we say it all the time
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right we're like Carpe Diem seize the
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day every day like it's gonna be your
20:47
last you know you never know but it's
20:49
like we don't really live like that yeah
20:51
you say it all the time you do you know
20:53
you say it but you don't really live it
20:56
because if you knew that next week was
20:58
going to be it what would you do
21:00
differently today if I wouldn't be here
21:01
right now
21:03
then you might want to think about that
21:04
sway
21:05
yeah right but my point is that like
21:08
right I'm right yeah right I'm like look
21:10
but but you know it's it's kind of a
21:12
joke but it's kind of serious yeah you
21:15
know it's like I always I say this like
21:17
you know especially because in my
21:19
corporate career again you know it's
21:20
like I've been known as moving from this
21:22
company that company and taking on this
21:24
and taking on that I'm like yo as soon
21:25
as I start to feel those Sunday scaries
21:27
Sunday night comes and I'm like oh I
21:30
don't want to do that thing tomorrow
21:30
morning or I you know I'm going to a
21:32
meeting I'm like I don't even want to
21:34
see these people oh no it's time for me
21:35
to go baby I'm not I'm not sitting
21:38
around feeling those feelings like I'm
21:40
going to live the life I want like I'm
21:43
going to be passionate and that goes for
21:45
jobs that goes for relationships that
21:47
goes for situationships that goes for
21:50
all of the things I'm like if I'm in a
21:52
situation that I don't feel good in what
21:55
am I waiting for why am I gonna waste
21:57
six months for what so you can prove to
21:59
me that I'm right well you like that
22:01
prior to your you know your husband
22:03
being diagnosed with cancer
22:05
um I was always impatient but the
22:09
urgency with intention changed when he
22:11
died when he died yeah yeah you start
22:14
off the book really powerful like you
22:17
start off not only I mean it wasn't just
22:19
his diagnosis your mother yes as well
22:22
and I Met Your Mother I know on the
22:24
plane
22:29
yes powerful beautiful woman yeah
22:32
two-time cancer survivor two-time cancer
22:35
survivor that lets you know that you can
22:37
survive yeah right so all of that
22:40
happened in the same time period yes yes
22:42
yes she had um she was on her second
22:44
bout of cancer she'd been diagnosed in
22:46
January and
22:48
um she was going through her recovery
22:51
um but you know still going through
22:52
chemo and radiation all that and then my
22:54
husband was diagnosed in May
22:57
um and then I was faced with basically
23:00
caring for them both my mom was being
23:02
cared for in New Jersey and Peter was at
23:05
Memorial Salon Kettering here in
23:06
Manhattan where were you in your career
23:09
at that time oh God see this is why it's
23:11
like the highs and lows of everything
23:13
you know it's like life is just like
23:14
that I was at a pretty big high I was
23:17
working at PepsiCo I was running the
23:19
music and entertainment Marketing Group
23:20
I negotiated the deal with the NFL for
23:23
the Super Bowl halftime show and put
23:25
Beyonce on the stage and it was a high I
23:28
mean we won big that year yeah you know
23:30
it was like look we fought for a black
23:32
woman to be on that stage I think people
23:33
think now it's like oh of course it was
23:34
Beyonce I was like no you don't
23:36
understand what was happening okay
23:40
so if you remember the wardrobe
23:43
malfunction yeah Janet Jackson in 2003
23:47
Justin Timberlake correct yeah okay and
23:50
she got blamed for everything
23:52
uh and therefore the NFL in not a um
23:58
direct way but indirect decided that any
24:01
body like her would probably be too
24:04
dangerous to have on the stage that was
24:06
number one so no black woman had been on
24:08
the stage since her so it's been a
24:10
decade next they were like we don't
24:13
think that she will be
24:15
commercially viable Beyonce yes because
24:19
she wouldn't attract the
24:21
the audience that they were going to
24:24
Garner uh so it was a fight it was a
24:27
fight it was a fight to get her on the
24:29
stage and but we did it and then on top
24:32
of it it was like she you know of course
24:35
was doing her thing and Barack Obama was
24:38
being inaugurated that year yeah we all
24:40
went to the inauguration she was singing
24:43
on the stage with you know look if
24:45
you're an artist you know it's like you
24:46
know sometimes you use a backing track
24:47
especially if you're outside and the
24:49
wind is blowing and all that stuff so
24:51
she used a backing track the wind
24:53
carried her voice off so all you heard
24:54
was the backing track and they said
24:56
Beyonce can't sing No I remember and
24:58
then it was like this big conversation
25:00
but now we get the NFL saying oh we told
25:03
you you know like not only is she not
25:06
going to be applying to like the
25:07
customers we have but like she can't
25:09
sing We got this you know big like
25:12
controversy happening so it was a fight
25:15
wow and by the time she got on that
25:17
stage and crushed it crushed it crushed
25:20
it I mean there was no question after
25:22
she was done that not she not only
25:24
deserved to be on the stage with that it
25:26
would be a legendary performance one
25:28
that we talked about for years to come
25:29
so and then we were like not me from me
25:33
I mean it was like everything was
25:33
happening
25:34
and then my mother had cancer and so did
25:37
my husband
25:38
so I was managing all of those emotions
25:41
the highs and lows at the same time hmm
25:43
wow oh man
25:46
Boze my Saint John is here y'all
25:50
one of the things I read in your book is
25:53
around that time
25:55
um
25:56
where you had to deal with your first
25:58
lesson hmm that's what you said the
26:00
first lesson I learned was uh I have to
26:04
face it
26:05
um yeah what did you mean by that
26:07
well that's like uh the boogeyman yeah
26:10
you know or whatever you call that fear
26:13
I think sometimes you know you're our
26:16
natural instinct is like shut our eyes
26:18
and run from it right because that's
26:20
easier I think the thing that is in your
26:23
head
26:24
most of the time is worse than the thing
26:27
that actually is right but let's just
26:29
pretend for one second that it is as bad
26:30
as you think it is the boogeyman is
26:33
uglier smellier scarier than you assume
26:36
you should know what it is like you
26:38
should look him dead in the eye and know
26:40
exactly what you're faced with and then
26:43
you can figure out okay am I gonna run
26:44
am I gonna lay down and play dad am I
26:47
gonna roll under the bed like what am I
26:48
gonna do but you have to face the thing
26:51
and that's what was happening to me you
26:53
have to face his his death yes had to
26:55
face it head on and say okay like this
26:57
is not the life
26:59
I thought I was gonna have I didn't
27:01
think I'd be a single mom I didn't think
27:03
that I would have to be a widow who
27:06
wants that title you know I didn't think
27:08
I would have to explain to my child for
27:10
the rest of her life what her dad was
27:13
like you know or do any of those things
27:15
I didn't want that but I had to face it
27:18
you know and I couldn't run from it and
27:20
then plus time was running out I didn't
27:22
have we didn't have time yeah so it
27:24
meant that I had to like again I said it
27:26
had to be intentional about
27:28
what we're gonna do you know the big
27:30
things and the little things
27:32
I'm fine and I'm asking you these
27:34
questions specifically because I think
27:36
and I think if listeners who um have and
27:39
I asked that question before the
27:40
interview if you ever gone through love
27:43
loss and survival she's been through it
27:46
and through her experience maybe you
27:48
could learn how to get through yours
27:50
anyone with the child at some point got
27:53
to say hey he's no longer going to be
27:56
here how do you tell your child right oh
28:00
man well it was probably the best advice
28:02
I got actually you know because as a
28:04
parent as a mother as a father
28:07
um you want to protect your kids from
28:08
everything bad you know you don't want
28:10
nothing bad to happen to them and if
28:12
something bad is happening you want to
28:13
cushion it as much as possible protect
28:15
them as much as possible but the best
28:17
advice I got was that I should tell her
28:20
be honest with her
28:22
um use the real words you know because
28:24
if you say like oh Daddy's sick then
28:26
every time somebody has a cold or
28:28
somebody has like a pain in their elbow
28:30
she thinks it's gonna die yeah you know
28:33
so you have to say Daddy has cancer and
28:36
he's going to die
28:38
and she didn't understand the concept
28:40
she was four you know she just turned
28:42
four she didn't know what that meant and
28:44
I think maybe that was one of the
28:45
biggest griefs that I felt early on you
28:48
know even before I passed away I was
28:49
like man she doesn't even know what
28:50
she's losing yeah you know she like I I
28:53
my dad is around uh we have a great
28:56
relationship a complicated one but you
28:58
know it's like he's here and I'm a
29:00
daddy's girl and I was like man she's
29:02
not gonna have that yeah she's not gonna
29:04
have a daddy to tell you you can't move
29:06
in the apartment with that boyfriend
29:07
okay you're saving the family
29:11
you know it's like and the thing is I
29:13
just kept of the future you know I kept
29:15
thinking about like what happens when
29:17
you know yeah what happens when she has
29:18
her first crush yeah you know what
29:20
happens when she wants to go to daddy
29:23
daughter dance what happens when she's
29:25
playing in that game and she wants her
29:28
dad to watch her or what happens when
29:30
she gets married you know like all of
29:32
these things that I was thinking about
29:33
in the future about how to explain to
29:36
her so she understood the weight of it
29:38
but the truth of the matter is that none
29:41
of us not even me I didn't understand
29:43
the weight of what we're about to face
29:44
yeah you know so that's why it's even
29:46
more important to live in the present
29:48
moment so then yes I was like look
29:51
Daddy's going to die we don't know when
29:53
that is but it will be soon
29:55
and you should
29:57
say the things you want to say you know
29:59
hug him as much as you want to I dance
30:02
and do little performances do everything
30:04
you want to do I do it all and of course
30:07
she didn't understand the weight of that
30:09
but I have lots of videos of her dancing
30:12
in his hospital room that she loves to
30:14
watch now you know I have her sitting on
30:17
the floor while he's reading her a story
30:19
you know like all of the things like
30:21
yeah I really wanted her to do them and
30:23
then later on she would have it you say
30:26
that in the book later on in the book to
30:28
make sure you take pictures and do
30:29
videos savor every moment every moment
30:31
do all of the things
30:34
okay I'm opening up the uh Tracy you
30:36
want to talk to them yeah oh my goodness
30:38
you're mesmerizing oh thank you I
30:40
appreciate your essence everything that
30:43
you've endured that given you so many
30:45
lessons that you also share with us I
30:47
really deeply appreciate you very much
30:50
um I want to go back a couple steps when
30:53
you were mentioning how as soon as
30:55
something just feels icky within you're
30:58
like I'm out I don't have time to like
31:00
examine to prove my theory correct
31:04
um and I feel that I do also think that
31:07
there are some times for folks where
31:09
they are maybe chasing more all the time
31:13
it brings me back to Michelle Obama did
31:15
a conversation recently and she was
31:17
talking about how for a lot of young
31:18
people who enter marriages maybe they
31:21
presume it's going to be easier than
31:23
what it is and what she sees is that
31:24
they leave when the going gets tough so
31:27
I'm interested in what is your process
31:30
of discernment when it comes to deciding
31:33
In This Moment do I pivot my perspective
31:36
or do I really just pivot my position
31:39
where I lead yeah oh that's a great
31:42
question so here's the thing is that um
31:45
intuition is such a funny thing it's
31:47
like it's like any other muscle in your
31:49
body you know it's like if you lift
31:52
weights you know do bicep curls you're
31:54
probably going to grow your biceps right
31:56
if you pay attention to your intuition
31:58
it is going to get stronger it's going
32:00
to get louder it's going to get more
32:01
clear
32:02
you know and that is actually the
32:04
difference of understanding what is your
32:06
intuition actually telling you about the
32:08
danger of a situation or about the need
32:10
to move to a different Destiny versus
32:13
like your what I would just call your
32:15
emotions
32:16
you know it's like look you can be in a
32:19
relationship with somebody and get
32:21
pissed off and need to cool off yeah you
32:24
know and some people will be like oh man
32:26
I'm so pissed off I don't wanna and I'm
32:28
out that's all I'm talking about I'm
32:30
talking about the intuition that tells
32:31
you that this is no longer serving me
32:34
this situation I'm in isn't growing me
32:36
it's not supporting me I don't feel
32:39
loved I don't feel encouraged and I need
32:43
to get out that there's a big difference
32:45
between what your intuition tells you
32:47
the thing like I it happens to me in my
32:49
gut yeah it hurts other people in other
32:50
places you know what I mean but you know
32:52
in my gut so I have a very very strong
32:56
intuition and that is why it's like even
32:59
in meeting people
33:00
you know have you ever been in a
33:02
situation where somebody's like oh you
33:04
know such and such a person because they
33:05
do this and they do that and then you
33:08
meet them and you're like um the vibe is
33:10
off right you know what I'm saying but
33:11
guess what you're gonna do oh yeah give
33:13
them your number you're gonna have lunch
33:15
because that person said that they were
33:18
important oh I don't do that I don't do
33:20
that anymore at all it's like as soon as
33:22
I enter a space
33:24
I mean somebody I don't care they it
33:26
could be the president United States and
33:27
I'd be like
33:29
see you later you know what I mean like
33:31
I don't I don't have the need yeah for
33:35
sure no I don't have the need to prove
33:39
my intuition wrong
33:41
um was there a defining moment where you
33:43
went against your intuition that put you
33:44
on this course yeah there have been many
33:47
of them yeah I mean I think for all of
33:48
us who could probably pick up a couple
33:50
things where you're just like I knew I
33:51
shouldn't have done that yep but you did
33:53
it anyway and then look at you you know
33:55
yeah but then but the thing is the funny
33:58
thing is that my intuition has been so
34:01
right on so many things that other
34:04
people told me that was a bad idea I
34:06
mean and I could just talk about my
34:08
career and that would be enough yeah you
34:10
know like literally until
34:13
no let me think about this
34:15
actually I don't think there's any job
34:16
I've ever taken
34:18
that people are like that's a good idea
34:20
and I know that sounds crazy because no
34:23
not even Netflix because Netflix I took
34:25
that job in June of 2020 at the end of
34:28
June we were three months into the
34:30
pandemic I was already the chief
34:32
marketing officer of endeavor which is a
34:34
parent company for a lot of big
34:35
companies that people know it's like WME
34:38
which manages a lot of artists and
34:40
actors and athletes they own the UFC
34:43
they own New York Fashion Week they own
34:45
IMG like it was a big job a very
34:48
comfortable job on the CMO we're going
34:49
to go public like I mean it was like
34:51
everything was fine and then Here Comes
34:53
Netflix and they're you know courting me
34:56
and made me the offer and people were
34:59
like girl it's a pandemic the panoramic
35:02
the Panasonic you don't want to change
35:05
anything you know like what you gonna do
35:07
and then my other CMO friends because
35:09
you know it's a little community of us
35:11
they were like you know the pressures of
35:14
this job you know the job is about 24
35:16
months 36 months is usually the life
35:18
cycle of a CMO it's a high pressure job
35:20
and and they were like you want to go
35:22
into a job where you don't know anybody
35:24
you won't see any of your team you won't
35:28
be able to you know get in rooms with
35:30
people so they know your intention your
35:33
black woman in these jobs you know what
35:35
it's like
35:36
and you want to go over there you'll be
35:38
out in six months why would you do that
35:40
that's what they told me but I talked to
35:44
Ted sarandos and read Hastings who are
35:46
the co-ceos of Netflix and I knew I had
35:48
to go I knew it was the job I knew it
35:50
was the next place to be and everybody
35:52
thought it was a bad idea
35:54
except for you not not your intuition
35:57
exactly exactly so that's really the
35:59
difference for me is that um I
36:01
understand why people feel like how am I
36:05
going to be able to tell or like but but
36:07
the the issue is that you just haven't
36:10
honed your intuition enough yeah it's
36:13
not strong enough so give it some space
36:15
you know allow for the small decisions
36:17
that are your intuition to lead the way
36:19
try those when you gain confidence in
36:22
that then you can get to the bigger
36:24
stuff you don't have to go for the big
36:25
stuff right away yes but train it don't
36:28
don't drink cow's milk
36:30
go away clog your chakras you won't give
36:33
you access to your intuition okay I mean
36:36
that's the problem
36:38
see I know what I'm talking about that's
36:40
right apple cider vinegar okay 100 yeah
36:43
yeah sometimes people say much but I'm
36:45
gonna agree with that okay
36:47
Billy hey
36:49
thank you thank you for the Embrace this
36:52
morning that hug was just everything and
36:54
I appreciated on so many levels
36:57
um so I felt your energy from the time
36:59
you walked in as you said and for the
37:01
little bit that you've been able to
37:02
share in such a short time I have to go
37:04
back to what you said about your dad and
37:07
I too um I was a daddy's girl and um I
37:11
heard what you said about your mom and
37:12
I'm wondering to me what stuck out is
37:15
that your dad decided not to change your
37:17
names and I was like yo the boldness and
37:19
the pride and that man you have to that
37:23
has to rub off yeah and and with a kid
37:26
from a young age and then your mom I
37:28
just I hear Survivor am I spirited in my
37:31
heart would you say those were the two
37:33
things that maybe you have gotten from
37:35
your parents oh absolutely I think sense
37:38
of identity
37:39
she has been so so strong I mean both of
37:41
them um like you said in different ways
37:44
right because for my dad even with the
37:46
name thing yeah like that was a very
37:49
strong decision because at the time
37:50
think about culture you know and
37:52
everybody's naming their kid all these
37:54
English names and he's like
37:55
no I'm gonna go with tradition you know
37:58
and he didn't give us like their their
38:00
differences in names in Ghana it's like
38:01
they're the day names which everybody
38:03
has right it's like you're born on a
38:05
certain day of the week and you're a
38:07
woman or a man you get a name right so
38:09
I'm a FIBA I'm a girl born on Friday Sam
38:12
is Kofi is man born on Friday
38:16
um that is a common name and then you
38:18
probably have like a family name which
38:20
is passed on from an uncle or an aunt or
38:22
somebody like that
38:24
um my dad was like oh yeah no we're
38:26
going with like the family names the
38:28
hard names the names you know you can't
38:31
you like if you mess up we know we don't
38:33
trust you that's that's the kind of
38:35
thing oh yeah he was that serious about
38:37
it and not only that he had English he
38:39
had an English name and he abandoned it
38:41
he was like I'm no longer going to be
38:42
called George can you imagine African
38:44
man named George get out of here you
38:45
know what I mean so he was like I'm done
38:47
with that and my mom was Evelyn and she
38:49
was like yeah I'm done with mine too so
38:51
they both abandoned their names now the
38:54
thing about my parents is that by the
38:56
time we got to Colorado Springs Colorado
38:58
um in this very white environment
39:02
they knew of course we were at um
39:04
formative times in our lives right their
39:06
kids were so I was 12 13 14 15. and as
39:10
you can imagine it's like at that age
39:11
remember what you were like at that age
39:12
you just want to fit in you don't want
39:14
anything different about you you know
39:15
what I mean but here we were in this
39:18
place where I couldn't be blonde I
39:20
couldn't be white I couldn't be like
39:22
anybody else and I remember actually a
39:25
very specific day it's it's burned into
39:28
my memory forever
39:30
um I was gonna have like my first black
39:33
sleepover you know I finally broken in
39:36
finally these little white girls were
39:38
like okay well come to your house
39:42
so finally you know it's like I've
39:44
broken into the inner sanctum of these
39:47
white girl clicks and they were gonna
39:49
come over
39:51
and I gotten home and I was so nervous
39:54
and you know it's like I was just trying
39:56
to get the Nintendo together and the
39:58
things you know to like play right and I
40:00
could smell my mom cooking some food in
40:04
the kitchen and I was like
40:08
yeah
40:12
[Music]
40:17
I remember the exact moment my mom is
40:22
knowing like she's not a easy woman
40:25
she's not she's not gonna be over here
40:28
cowering she is yeah there it is look
40:31
you don't tell you know what I mean you
40:34
know what I'm saying without me saying
40:35
it okay so it took every bit of Courage
40:37
for me to go into the kitchen yeah
40:40
oh yes and I said Mom
40:43
would it be possible today
40:45
for us to just order some pizza from my
40:48
friends because they won't eat this food
40:50
that we eat
40:52
and she turned to me and she said okay
40:55
now when you go to their house
40:58
you eat their food and you speak their
41:00
language when they come to our house
41:03
they will eat our food and they will
41:05
speak our language that woman didn't
41:07
speak English to them the entire time
41:09
they came okay
41:11
look my mom speaks four languages she
41:14
didn't speak English not one time and
41:16
then my little friends were like I
41:17
thought your mom spoke English she was
41:19
like she does she's not gonna speak it
41:21
to you but the thing that it taught me
41:23
in that moment come on was the value of
41:25
my own identity I am telling you I did
41:27
not walk into any room without it moving
41:30
towards me oh there you go because I
41:32
understand
41:34
I know that I don't have to assimilate
41:38
to your value you're going to assimilate
41:42
to mine when I'm in the room and so for
41:44
me it's like that and look I'm sure at
41:47
the time she said it she was probably
41:49
trying to hold down her anger you know
41:51
kind of feel like this place that we've
41:53
come to is going to make my child feel
41:56
like she's not worthy of our things
41:58
right not worthy of our culture
42:01
you know and so she took that moment to
42:04
teach me the lesson I never forgot it
42:05
never
42:06
Boles my Saint John come on man and
42:09
You're Dead all right what did she cook
42:11
that day though what did she cook and
42:13
then the woman had the nerve she was
42:16
cooking actually something pretty easy I
42:17
think she was making like jollof rice
42:18
and chicken she decided to make some hot
42:20
pepper soup oh burn these little kids
42:23
mouths
42:24
they were all turning red and tears
42:27
incredible sleepovers
42:31
Ryan they probably drank milk you know
42:34
irony yeah exactly blocked off all their
42:38
intuition they couldn't tell any
42:40
difference
42:41
one of my one of my my I have a
42:43
stepfather who's from Ghana and so yeah
42:46
yeah girl uh and from the and he
42:48
migrated to the Bay Area so when when he
42:51
when he first I was still in my mother's
42:53
house when they when they came back to
42:55
the house because they had their own
42:56
situation and he used to cook man he
43:00
made some of that hot pepper soup yeah
43:02
and you ate it it took a long time but
43:05
after a while it was I craved it yeah he
43:08
made a peanut butter yes
43:12
and he did a fish
43:15
yeah yeah oh yeah man he was killing it
43:18
with this good food good food excellent
43:20
this is what I'm talking about yeah
43:21
people need to understand yeah it's good
43:23
food yeah good flavor you can't get that
43:25
around the corner no you really can't
43:27
get that an Uber Eats
43:31
um Bozeman I know our time is running
43:32
short but I want to read something that
43:35
um
43:35
um a quote that you I believe you
43:37
started the book with and then it's
43:38
towards the end
43:40
it says it's a Diane Ackerman quote that
43:43
uh that you love about getting to the
43:45
end of life and not having just lived
43:47
the length of it but the width of it too
43:49
you said that's what I want to fulfill
43:51
every day every inch with gratitude so
43:54
great there isn't room for fear or doubt
43:57
so I'm gonna um what is the coldest in
43:59
the beginning of the book right let me
44:00
see do you know what about off head yeah
44:02
okay go ahead this is just a ploy to get
44:05
you to say no but you you mean you got
44:08
it yeah it's like I don't want to get to
44:10
the end of my life and just have lived
44:12
the length of it I want to live the
44:14
width of it what does that mean um
44:17
to you well I think we are all um hoping
44:22
for long life you know we all hope to
44:24
get to 90 100 years old maybe you know
44:27
we're eating well and working out and
44:30
watching you know how we interact with
44:34
each other so that we can have a long
44:35
life right that's always the goal we
44:37
want a long life and that is what's been
44:39
put into our heads and so when life is
44:42
cut short sometimes it feels unfair it
44:45
feels like you didn't get the chance to
44:46
do everything
44:48
I don't want to live my life like that I
44:50
don't want to just live the length of it
44:52
the width of it means that every moment
44:55
is so filled with exactly what I want
45:00
you know all of the joy and love and
45:05
inspiration that I can Bottle Into the
45:08
days so that if I were to go tomorrow I
45:10
would not have a regret yeah that my
45:12
life would be fulfilled regardless of
45:14
the number of years and that's the way I
45:16
want to approach it and sometimes it's
45:18
not about like oh I want to go like
45:21
climb Mount Everest today you know or
45:23
like oh I gotta like have these big
45:25
goals no it's like being in this room
45:26
with you
45:27
you know meeting Heather B like you know
45:30
feeling like I she did get excited
45:32
yesterday I got excited together it was
45:36
just Mutual that's why I said the
45:37
husband a lot it meant a lot to me and
45:39
I'm like and I will take this moment and
45:41
it will sit with me you know like today
45:44
such a beautiful day Sam is here I'm so
45:47
excited that he is you know it's like I
45:49
want my days to feel full to the
45:52
bursting to feel like the width of it is
45:55
expanding and that's how I approach my
45:58
life now
45:59
I love it I'm honored to have you on
46:01
this show okay
46:03
John Sam Barrington thank you brother
46:05
it's good to see you again yeah you
46:08
changed my life you know I'm gonna put
46:10
it to words eventually you know and
46:12
you're a younger man than me but that
46:14
doesn't matter you know what I mean so I
46:16
had an amazing experience with you and
46:18
we wore black sweaters today that's all
46:20
Kendra
46:23
that's crazy
46:26
um can we also ask people to come to
46:28
Treasure Island and that's what I was
46:30
about to understand
46:34
so so we're hanging out in Ghana imagine
46:37
this night you know it's us Minstrel
46:40
Raymond um
46:45
it's Jay Ivy who's now a Grammy award
46:48
winner
46:52
it's Michael Blackson yeah did I say
46:55
Dave I said Dave Chappelle we're all
46:57
hanging out Leticia Wright was there
47:00
everybody
47:03
there and we're standing outside of this
47:06
one club uh that we were hanging out in
47:09
and there's some kids running up on me
47:11
to take pictures Sam was like they just
47:13
want money it's like no they know me all
47:15
right
47:16
and they bring the picture up and I'm
47:19
like so excited I'm in the vibe and Bose
47:21
is standing there and I'm like yeah
47:23
balls I can't wait till next year's
47:25
Treasure Island New Year's Eve yeah you
47:29
gotta make the list
47:33
delicious clothes
47:38
okay so I figure if I get you in front
47:41
of Heaven B
47:42
maybe I could get in next year
47:47
they are we are in charge of the list as
47:50
she and she told you it was close
47:52
listen my responsibility on that list
47:55
probably like one percent yeah
47:58
okay okay
48:01
no but that's that's because of an
48:04
extreme amount of trust and what's crazy
48:07
is you know a lot of these people I was
48:09
meeting for the first time so as I'm
48:11
sitting down and I'm getting to know
48:13
this person I see the the story the
48:15
lineage right and how this person
48:17
actually got there and they could recite
48:19
the first time they ever heard her speak
48:21
about Ghana you get what I'm saying and
48:22
so now we make it a fashion we'll meet
48:24
somebody and within that first 20
48:26
seconds you've been in Ghana yet you've
48:29
been to Africa yet because you can wow
48:31
me you can tell me about all the things
48:33
that you've done you can tell me about
48:34
all the places that you've been but
48:36
there's a disconnect if you haven't been
48:38
back home yeah you get what I'm saying
48:41
and here's the thing you talk about the
48:43
power of the dollar in Ghana
48:45
um
48:46
I don't I I haven't seen a period of
48:48
time of course I'm only 32 years old but
48:50
I haven't seen a period of time where
48:52
black people are so infatuated with
48:54
business and investing if you want to
48:56
see your dollar go far bring it to
48:57
Africa you know what I'm saying I think
48:59
um I believe it was maybe J Cole or um
49:03
maybe it was J Cole or maybe it was
49:05
Kendrick Lamar who spoke on it but if
49:06
you want to see your dollar go far go to
49:08
Africa there's a lot of Virgin
49:10
investment opportunities where it's like
49:12
they're desperate for the capital
49:14
they're desperate for their leadership
49:16
and here's the thing if you come there
49:18
and you're ready to invest and you look
49:20
like them it'll be one of the most
49:22
comfortable you know situations you've
49:24
ever seen because a lot of times what
49:26
happens is you get in business here in
49:27
America I've been running my company for
49:29
five years but you get in business here
49:31
in America sometimes unfortunately black
49:34
people we suffer from a cognitive bias
49:35
and we see a white person and in
49:37
business we think they're more
49:38
trustworthy yeah yeah but you go into
49:40
rooms with them speak on it listen you
49:42
get in the room with them and they're
49:44
smiling you think everything's sweet and
49:46
the first opportunity to get the chance
49:48
to you're gonna get your cut you're
49:50
gonna get your neck cut and you're gonna
49:51
be like you know what bro it's just
49:52
business you know what I'm saying so if
49:54
I'm gonna have those experiences I want
49:56
to have them with my own people and um
49:58
you know you talk about Treasure Island
49:59
and uh again just stories in the line
50:03
time is you know I reached out the bowls
50:04
back in 2018 17. 17. so all right so
50:08
yeah you're trying to give yourself a
50:09
break
50:11
and the gentleman who
50:13
told me about Bose told me to reach out
50:15
to him the guy who introduced me and
50:18
that guy is no longer living oh you see
50:20
so if I missed meeting that guy I was in
50:23
New York when I met him that's a crazy
50:24
thing the same the same year the Super
50:27
Bowl that that you had Beyonce it was
50:29
here in New York when I met the
50:30
gentleman so and it's just crazy all
50:32
these things coming back together so he
50:34
told me about the guy matt24 who's doing
50:36
an amazing job out in the Bay Area with
50:38
toasted life
50:40
um Matt said hey man you know because
50:41
Matt he knows how I feel about Ghana my
50:43
dad is from Ghana I've been back I think
50:45
I leave in seven days that'll be trip
50:47
number 19. you get what I'm saying about
50:50
it yeah I'm over there you know before I
50:52
pick up and go to Cali right go to Ghana
50:55
I'm gonna go across the water I'm gonna
50:57
go across the Atlantic I'm gonna go to
50:58
Ghana I mean there's no excuse you can
51:00
fly 13 hours I'm sorry 10 hours from DC
51:02
will United and so um he said man you
51:05
need you really need to check her out
51:07
you really need to see she's doing some
51:08
really special things in Ghana and so I
51:10
dm'd her but you know the algorithm my
51:12
DM just ain't
51:26
no but seriously and so what was crazy
51:29
is that same gentleman he told me hey
51:31
man jidenna coming over this was back in
51:33
2018. all right okay is your dinner
51:35
doing some crazy things in Ghana I think
51:37
at the time he probably had about 20
51:39
people he was bringing and you know he
51:40
sponsored the trip so I called my Pops I
51:43
say you know my pops that's big Sam I
51:45
say hey you know this guy he bringing
51:46
some people in can you host them at
51:48
Treasure Island so since then jidenna
51:50
and my family been real tight and so
51:52
literally in August of this past year I
51:55
get invited to the spot budget dinner
51:56
I'm speaking to some kids for him he
51:58
said hey man pop over to this spot with
52:00
us Bloom bar shout out to bloom bar and
52:02
Ghana he said pop over to the spot I'm
52:04
like bro I really don't want to go you
52:06
get what I'm saying I got to be at
52:07
Treasure Island at seven in the morning
52:09
so I go you know I'm in about 45 minutes
52:12
is that I'm leaving out he introduced me
52:14
and bows together and so all the lives
52:17
that were changed on New Year's wow
52:19
listen his Precision you know what I'm
52:21
saying it's efficiency so talking about
52:23
being ready for these things
52:25
yeah but you got to get ready you gotta
52:29
be ready you can't be drinking that damn
52:30
milk yeah
52:38
farmers in America are going to be
52:39
talking to you
52:40
waiting outside this is all through
52:43
alignment and I'm gonna tell you reach
52:45
out to me personally if I can help you
52:46
have an experience back in Ghana you
52:49
know my family owns Treasure Island and
52:51
I'm telling you and and no we're gonna
52:53
make sure swear on the list whatever
53:13
just for clarity a Treasure Island is
53:16
located where so when you fly into Ghana
53:19
the main airport that everybody flies
53:21
into the airport code is ACC that stands
53:24
for a crowd that's our Capital so
53:25
Treasure Island is probably about 100
53:28
miles maybe 75 miles east of Accra and
53:32
um the commute is a little difficult
53:34
because uh the highway system in Ghana
53:36
is still developing but it's still a
53:38
decent ride so it'll take you about two
53:39
and a half hours to get a Treasure
53:41
Island so it's one if it's the only
53:43
Resort in Ghana that's not landlocked so
53:46
it's actually situated on the island and
53:48
uh we went public with it in 2019 and
53:51
and slowly but surely I actually met
53:53
Ebro there in 29. he broke my brother
54:03
they both came they came to the show and
54:05
promoted Ghana they were trying to get
54:07
me to come like that's right before well
54:09
I guess I would have got held up at the
54:11
door now
54:17
you brought it and um I talked to Ebro
54:19
since I've been back and said because
54:21
Ebro and I are from the same place oh
54:23
yeah yeah so yeah we pretty much grew up
54:26
together in the business of tremendously
54:29
proud of him I smile when I see him
54:32
because I know how far he's come but um
54:36
I gotta go to work right now y'all thank
54:39
you thank you thank you Sam thank you
54:41
thank you thank you let's get the book
54:44
citizens live show is at 1203 it's 12
54:46
hours
54:47
you want them to go over there with you
54:52
now I have to go to another appointment
54:54
oh okay okay of course of course the
54:59
Urgent life my story of love lost and
55:01
survival by Bozeman St John this is a
55:04
book you all must read yeah I cried I
55:08
laughed I cheered for this person right
55:11
here she's an amazing Spirit Sam you you
55:14
own a place in my heart you and Minstrel
55:16
Raymond y'all my brothers you may not
55:19
know what that mean but no I know okay
55:22
you know all right deeper than it looks
55:24
yeah okay let's keep it all right all
55:26
right love y'all thank you citizens for
55:28
tuning in we'll be back tomorrow who we
55:30
got tomorrow DB don't we got somebody
55:34
uh we're gonna be with uh Fred the
55:36
godson's wife Leanne 38 special and then
55:38
also Samara Joy oh Samara Joy the Grammy
55:41
Award winners you'll be here yeah
55:42
that'll be tomorrow
55:44
yeah that was crazy crazy amazing
55:47
amazing boss you got to come back we
55:49
gotta okay come back all right okay we
55:52
gotta talk about all the fun stories
55:54
okay all right she probably Beyonce do
55:56
the Super Bowl we have nothing left to
56:00
say
56:01
foreign
56:05
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