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BMF's Russell Hornsby Addresses Charles Flenory Cheating and Talks Working with Viola Davis & Denzel
Feb 27, 2023
Friday's mean a new episode of BMF! With the latest episodes viewers have been stunned by the jaw-dropping scene in which Charles Flenory (Russell Hornsby) strayed from his marriage to have an affair with Mabel Jones (Christine Horn). The infidelity stirred shock and outrage among fans who felt betrayed by their beloved character, prompting many to contemplate boycotting the show.
Actor Russell Horsnby addresses the scene and infidelity in general in an interview with the Sway In The Morning team.
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BMF's Russell Hornsby Addresses Charles Flenory Cheating and Talks Working with Viola Davis & Denzel
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[Applause]
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man oh man
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salute to Curtis Jackson for this one
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boy oh man that man been batting the
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thousands since he came on that scene on
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that set and they don't even remember
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all the other movies he did before the
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ones that got big and popular and all
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the different television series but that
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one is that was a trailer for season
0:18
three of BMF and um man what can we say
0:23
about that um that that series that
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highlights the life of the one and only
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uh Demetrius meets Flannery and uh his
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son came on our show and we all know
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this story you know and that that story
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actually played an integral part in the
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development of um hip-hop on the south
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and the whole incredible scene that
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we've seen and uh the person that plays
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Charles is man I call him a good friend
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of mine yeah
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um not that we haven't spent the holiday
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together nothing like that but when you
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from the soil we're from and you see
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people win they automatically your
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family members all right and every time
1:00
I saw him brother I saw him on Creed 2
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rather I saw him and Lost in Space when
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I saw him acting opposite Denzel and
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Viola Davis and fences crazy and fences
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with Denzel I said man there's something
1:15
about that dude he got that Bay Area
1:17
swag and I want to welcome him to the
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show man come on the one and only
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Russell Hornsby yo
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[Applause]
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um
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it's just amazing you have to watch your
1:48
Evolution um he went to Saint Mary's
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High School in Berkeley okay right and
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some of the people just to give you some
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context
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um of what what some of the people who
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went to Saint Mary's High School in
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Berkeley are well we got The Souls of
2:03
Mischief came out of there Damonte
2:05
Thompson grew up with uh with Tajay
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um and you know we all and even I was
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thinking about it like uh Tom shamura
2:13
lyrics Born uh Latif the true speaker
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you know when I grew up with the school
2:18
together
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um and it was just a time when uh we
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were able to just live and be ourselves
2:24
you know there's a lot of creativity at
2:26
that time well y'all basking in it like
2:28
did everybody know what everybody goes
2:30
where at that time not really we were
2:32
just saying we were just able to have
2:33
fun you know I tell people all the time
2:34
I think I had the best childhood growing
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up in Oakland you know I mean I think
2:38
that we always talk growing up and
2:40
living in the spirit of the panther you
2:41
know what I mean and so we were able to
2:43
have a sense of Consciousness a sense of
2:45
self purpose about who you are and where
2:48
you came from what the roots were but
2:49
also understanding we came from a true
2:52
culture of music of art politics things
2:55
of that nature right so we all talk
2:56
about you know Huey P Newton and the
2:59
Panthers and whatnot but then we also
3:00
talk about the Mac we talk about it's
3:02
like too short and all that and then
3:04
what Tony Tony brought to the fore and
3:06
we just have this great mix and Crocs
3:08
cross-section of just an immense amount
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of talent you know what I mean and like
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you said it's in the soil it's in the
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water it's in the air it's in the air
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it's in the room shut up
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um uh and then so you you grew up
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listening to the wake-up show yeah yeah
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that wake up show flow Hip Hop's alarm
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clock the bomb spot
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what's one of your um Milestone
3:38
highlights of this show that so you know
3:41
when King Tech We Were Young during so
3:43
we didn't realize the impact we just
3:46
knew what the mission was but we didn't
3:48
realize the impact how many people in
3:49
the bay were just sitting up at night
3:51
recording these different moments that
3:54
took place yeah what do you remember I
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mean to me the member my biggest memory
3:58
was the uh the flow the Hobo Junction
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versus Hiro freestyle
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yes
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I'm a hydro guy that was that was my
4:11
like you know what I mean and and the
4:13
way those brothers were able to bring
4:15
that that whatever that little beef was
4:17
and really Bring It On Wax and really
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bring it you know to the to the to the
4:22
flow to the table to the stage if you
4:24
will and really get down like that I
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mean that's one of the more memorable
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hip-hop moments period yeah you know
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regardless of what coach you are yeah
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whether East or West I mean and then
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that tape started going around yeah
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that was like three hours of just get
4:39
down people never knew Sophia was the
4:42
guy Menace to Society yeah yeah because
4:43
of hero cousin Harold yeah I got shot in
4:46
the beginning of the movie yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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yeah yeah
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and then it was like casual is dope he's
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like casual as fat in the stuff
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yeah I remember that freestyle man I was
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a high road fan the way that happened
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was I was friends with all of them okay
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and so uh one time hire folks from
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Hyrule come on the show come on Cameo
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say something some casual might say
5:10
something and Sophia would say something
5:13
so King Tech and I was like I came up
5:14
with this like hey man let's just why
5:16
don't y'all air it out on air we had no
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idea that that radio broadcast would do
5:22
what it's done that was documentaries
5:24
made about it in the whole night and I
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love it it's legendary oh man and when
5:29
you think about it that's really off the
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Dome yeah like cats had no time to
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prepare they couldn't I mean they were
5:35
off the straight Dome like you don't
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come in okay let me get my little
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thoughts together let me put this you
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know what I mean
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uh casual I mean off the Dome that's I
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mean that's their one of The Originators
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of really being able to battle I love
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that Russell is doing this and sharing
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this because there was a time when
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actors especially on your Caliber
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Caliber of acting who can share a screen
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with Denzel and Viola like Academy Award
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winners you know what I mean and because
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of your passion and your knowledge of
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hip-hop you can go from that space and
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then walk onto a show with 50 is it p
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and just have the same amount of passion
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and dedication for what you did with
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Viola and Denzel for what you do for
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someone that come from hip-hop and I
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think that's so dope because so early on
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folks with your level of talent wouldn't
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work with rappers you know what I mean
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and wouldn't mix the two was like oh no
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they doing that thing over there but
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just listening to you and your respect
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for it as well I'm so glad you shared
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that with us man well thank you I
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appreciate it Heather it's like coming
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back to your roots you know what I mean
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like you know you set off you embark on
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a mission of sorts right so you graduate
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from high school I went to Boston
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University and studied you know
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Shakespeare and all the classics and all
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that kind of stuff right but I realized
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that I was able to put my mouth around
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those words because of hip-hop yeah you
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know because of the Cadence because of
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the iambic pentameter and all of that
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nature I was you say um
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had it pleased heaven to try me with
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Affliction had they reigned all kinds of
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swords and shames on my bare head
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steeped me in poverty to the very lips
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or given to captivity me in my utmost
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hopes I should have found in some part
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of my soul a drop of patience but alas
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up and out of this song I was raised to
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be strong Mama Told Me Be A Thug since
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the day I was born you know what I'm
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saying the transition
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so you know you you take that and then
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you I take my my roots of hip-hop my
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listening to to park in short and I'm
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taking that to to theater school it's
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transferable right it's 100 transferable
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so you learn the classics you learn how
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to you learn how to study and you become
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a student of acting because there is a
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craft in acting and I tell I just came
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from tugaloo college in Mississippi uh
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on Tuesday and I was telling the
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students you can't skip steps in life
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and I sit and I and I also shared with
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him I said what's most important besides
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not skipping the steps I said don't
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chase the bag I said you know I'm
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telling young people and without
8:16
mentoring I said you can
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you can get money anytime I said don't
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worry about the money Chase experiences
8:24
oh Chase opportunities I say because you
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can't go back and get that time back you
8:30
can always get you some more money but
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you can't get time back and when you're
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young you got energy to do all these
8:36
different things yeah let's respond and
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so yeah yeah 100 so you know I mean
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that's that's what it was been about for
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me you know thank you man Russell
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Hornsby my brother here he went from my
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friend or my brothers here just moving
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up to Family Tree yeah pretty soon my
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twin Russell
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um so when you talk about acting being a
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craft
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um oh did we we you know I often wonder
9:01
about uh what what that requires to do
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it well like you really truly have to
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surrender right to the craft we
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surrender to our craft and what we do
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that's why we've been able to sustain we
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grew up you grew up listening right yeah
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um talk about that that process of
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surrendering to the craft well I mean I
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think first and foremost the saying goes
9:23
to thine own self be true right and so I
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was able to understand who I am where I
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came from uh I think you have to embrace
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um your roots you have to embrace your
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culture but you also have to be able to
9:39
sort of to have that Duality right and
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so when I'm learning the craft you're
9:44
learning about your body you're learning
9:45
about how you move how you breathe right
9:47
it's being in touch and being in tune
9:49
with yourself you know I kind of liken
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it to
9:53
um Luke Skywalker or you know um in Star
9:56
Wars right it's sort of analogous to
9:58
when going to try to become a Jedi yes
10:00
right so you go when you're going to
10:02
theater school when you're going to
10:03
learn this craft I'm a Jedi Knight I'm a
10:06
Jedi in training
10:07
right and then and that's why we call it
10:09
being able to be a master of your craft
10:11
right so you go to school to try to
10:15
learn to become a master of your craft
10:16
and so when you come out of school after
10:19
four years they say they call the
10:21
commencement it's only the beginning
10:22
it's the beginning right so I still have
10:24
to Embark and have more experiences in
10:27
life but also work experiences so I can
10:30
become slowly become a master and then
10:34
so when you start to work opposite
10:35
people like Viola Davis which I worked
10:37
on there also on stage and on screen
10:39
okay talk about it I'm working opposite
10:41
another Master yeah right yeah and so
10:44
this is me now in training yet again
10:46
yeah and so that opportunity working
10:49
with Viola and then they say you know a
10:51
couple years goes by they say you know
10:52
what you might be ready to you might be
10:55
ready to go against with the real master
10:56
come on with d with Denzel Washington
10:59
let's see what you have and to see if
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you can measure up
11:02
and it and I'm only able to do that
11:05
because I did the work because I took
11:08
the time right I didn't skip the steps
11:11
yeah and I also embraced experiences
11:14
yeah so I'm able to take all those
11:16
experiences of life and everything like
11:18
that and pour that into the work
11:20
because you can't
11:22
you can't live you can't do what you
11:24
haven't done what do they say the saying
11:26
goes you can't lie in life and tell the
11:28
truth on stage
11:29
hold up so you can't be faking life and
11:32
think you're gonna be real on stage
11:34
right I'm curious that's why it's too
11:36
thy known self be true right yeah Mass
11:39
when you talk about his levels to
11:40
Mastery obviously and you spoke about
11:43
working with Denzel
11:45
um and I I often look a lot of young
11:48
um correspondents people who work and do
11:50
it in the field we working they they'll
11:53
come to me and say I Inspire them and I
11:55
received that yes I think that's
11:57
beautiful that's part of my purpose but
11:59
I tell them you inspire me yes right you
12:03
inspire me so when I'm looking at a
12:05
Michael B Jordan who hasn't been at it
12:07
as long as you have but I consider him a
12:10
master now yeah so how did the what did
12:12
you learn
12:14
um differently from a master like Denzel
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uh from a master like Michael B Jordan
12:19
I think when you when I when I learned
12:21
from from Denzel is that take the focus
12:24
and the onus off of yourself okay you
12:27
are now here to help to uplift the your
12:30
obscene partner
12:31
and they said you know you get uh we we
12:34
get our egos getting getting uh get in
12:36
the way right thinking about like listen
12:38
I'm gonna be dope in this scenes I'm
12:40
about to be fly or whatever and we lose
12:43
the purpose of what the scene is about
12:44
the scene is about helping your scene
12:46
partner and being there to listen just
12:48
like in life right when you come when
12:50
you sit down with your friends and
12:51
family you ask somebody how they're
12:52
doing you really want to know so I'm
12:55
here to listen
12:56
and so that's why we learned from dead
12:58
from d for for Michael I really
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appreciate and respected his enthusiasm
13:03
and his commitment to getting better
13:04
yeah
13:06
and watching and seeing the growth and
13:08
in the continued growth and so you know
13:10
watching all the roles that he played
13:12
his dedication to not only become the
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physical attributes but also the
13:17
technical attributes you know and him
13:20
being able to take a note from the
13:22
director and apply it and you see that
13:25
is part of his growth and he's it is
13:27
enthusiastic about learning and
13:28
continuing to get better and now we're
13:30
seeing which I applaud him directing in
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Creed Three yes huge round of applause
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yes yes Russell Hornsby is here we're
13:38
talking about BMF um it's out now season
13:40
three
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uh pricey jump in there get in there oh
13:44
my God straight ahead she's been still
13:47
in New York hey baby
13:49
it's a good conversation my guy um I
13:53
wanted to get into BMF because I'm such
13:54
a big fan and what I love about actors
13:58
you guys remind me of this every time
13:59
you come on the show is I realize y'all
14:03
tend to be such humanitarians because
14:05
you literally have to live the lives of
14:08
so many characters and so I feel like it
14:11
amplifies your empathy and just general
14:13
understanding so with that said when it
14:16
comes to Charles right and I'm gonna
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just throw it out there citizens this
14:20
might be a spoiler alert when it comes
14:22
to the recent episodes right do you feel
14:25
like playing Charles You Now understand
14:28
because there are some temptations that
14:31
he falls victim to some indiscretions
14:33
this is an age-old question Russell
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please why do men tend to succumb to
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cheating have you learned more about the
14:45
why in playing Charles
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no I mean to be honest with you I don't
14:51
think I've it's always the Temptation
14:54
has always been there and it will always
14:55
be there
14:57
um you know
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cheating in infidelity is as old as the
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act itself
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and so we can't deny
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um the human need you know uh for
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pleasure you know and and I think that
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and I also think that what happens is
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oftentimes and happens now it happens
15:16
then a lot of people men and women alike
15:19
they suffer in silence
15:20
and so when when they're when their
15:23
intimacy needs may not be met properly
15:26
they seek the need uh to satisfy it
15:29
elsewhere and I I don't think it's
15:32
necessarily the need for the physical
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act as much as it is the need to be
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heard as much it is the need to be uh
15:41
touched felt it's the look it's the feel
15:44
it's the eye contact it's those things
15:46
that I think entice men and women alike
15:49
to to step away uh from their
15:52
significant other and and I think that
15:54
when we're always talking about
15:56
Communication in our culture right and I
15:58
think that part of the the lack of
16:01
intimacy comes from the lack of
16:03
communication that two people don't have
16:04
because of bills because of family
16:07
because of children all those kinds of
16:09
things that can wear families down and
16:12
and I mean it's just human nature you
16:14
know and I so I don't think that it's
16:16
any above any malicious intent if you
16:19
will right I think it's based on a human
16:22
need that needs to um to be addressed
16:26
and and I think it just stems from the
16:28
need to be heard
16:30
wow
16:33
Russell Hornsby is here it's interesting
16:36
Tracy last time we were in La I was
16:38
standing outside the building and Russ
16:40
just came walking by
16:43
what are you doing
16:45
6 30 it was early it was early in the
16:47
morning
16:50
no I was going to get my workout he's
16:52
going to get to work out and we and
16:54
after you left Heather and I commented
16:55
and I was giving her a little bit about
16:57
your history and I and I was like yo
16:58
this man looks amazing so yes he does I
17:01
commend you on how you preserved
17:02
yourself we got somebody on the line
17:03
right now John is calling from northern
17:05
Cali John what up what up Johnny what's
17:08
going on guys how y'all feeling
17:10
doing excellent doing excellent how
17:12
about you
17:13
man doing great great Russ Hornsby man
17:16
what's up man John Fisher bro
17:19
oh snap what's up bro
17:22
oh
17:23
man I can't call it how you been man
17:27
we go from better days of old when
17:28
nights were bold what yeah
17:32
did he go to high school today so you
17:36
knew Taja and everybody as well then
17:38
John
17:38
man let me tell you something man I grew
17:40
up with with with all of the
17:42
hieroglyphics and social Mission and
17:45
casual and the other funky on the
17:47
station
17:48
of the whole click I grew up with
17:50
everybody bro I mean I mean Elementary
17:53
School junior high school high school
17:54
everything man we all are family bro
17:58
what are your thoughts on time excuse me
18:00
John what are your thoughts on Russell
18:03
well first of all what I want to say is
18:04
Russ no congratulations on everything
18:07
that you have been doing man I've been
18:09
following your career and and you are
18:12
just the man thank you for
18:13
representing the town thank you for
18:15
representing you know you know Skyline
18:17
and St Mary's and you know just just us
18:19
up in Northern California man I just
18:21
want to say thank you and God bless
18:23
appreciate that brother thank you man
18:25
thank you for supporting me
18:27
you know I'm looking for a new family
18:29
bro yes hey John who won the battle
18:32
between hieroglyphics and hobo Johnson
18:35
uh so it was a Mischief of course
18:38
me and Jairo I know I'll fly bro
18:43
you know what one of the things I I
18:45
don't I don't often talk about back then
18:48
when we did this battle live on came
18:49
yeah we we had to take phone calls for
18:53
people to vote yeah so we got up to 500
18:57
phone calls right wow and it was like
18:59
247 the high road 248 to The Whole Bowl
19:03
249. it was close so we pretty much had
19:07
to call it a tie and the whole time
19:09
saphir is standing over my shoulder like
19:11
you better make us win
19:13
I didn't know that I didn't know that
19:29
oh John take care man you're a citizen
19:32
brother all right brother John be easy I
19:34
want to say suede man thank you bro for
19:36
what you've been doing Tracy thank you
19:38
for doing it have to be man I've been a
19:40
fan of you since uh gospel man so one
19:42
love to say 45 one love John thank you
19:45
brother love y'all bro love you too
19:47
Russell man it was great having you on
19:49
the show today you got to come back
19:50
thank you will do absolutely appreciate
19:52
it if you're in New York We Got Each
19:53
Other's number come on the song hang out
19:55
all right because we got a longer
19:56
conversation to have uh-huh I like that
19:58
we got another it ain't always about a
20:01
business I know we gonna link on all
20:03
other areas indeed indeed thank you
20:04
thank you for having me Russell Hornsby
20:06
man BMF is out right now season three
20:08
anything you want to say in closing
20:10
about BMF no I just want to say listen
20:12
vmf uh Friday nights nine o'clock on
20:15
stars come support it we're doing the
20:16
damn thing and we're making it happen
20:18
because it's real and appreciate all the
20:20
love and support that we've received up
20:21
to this point and just to continue to
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bless us thank you all all right we also
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want to thank David Sebastian for coming
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by uh DJ the legendary Broadway thank
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you brother cannabis cannabis and kicks
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okay bye guys oh the AFL is back I just
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wanted to say that the arena football
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league is back and I'm the official DJ
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of arena football this is
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I see you man all right we'll be back
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tomorrow got some more special guests
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thank you for tuning in Tracy you want
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to say anything in closing yeah I love
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you citizens thank you so much for your
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vulnerabilities thank you so much for
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sharing your triumphs with us um this
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was a spectacular good news Thursday and
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I really appreciate being on the
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receiving end of it it's Tracy G holla
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at me I'd see str-a-c-y-g
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all right Russell are you one of the
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actors that don't really be on social
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media now I got I'm on you know Twitter
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uh at Russell Hornsby and uh also on
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Instagram uh at Russell Hornsby yes
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r-u-s-s-o-u-l Hornsby okay Russell
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that's your soul glow I like that yeah
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all right I'm at real sway across the
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board you can see all these interviews
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on Swayze Universe we got some new ones
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up right now Lord serious up next have
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to be us at Urban view you can follow
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her at the happy hour whb and on that no
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citizens we have nothing
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left to say
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