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Mar 9, 2021
Episode 11 of BRIDGEBIZNESS features the undefeated David Benavidez prior to his upcoming fight with Ronald Ellis.
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ladies and gentlemen one of my favorite
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in the game i often say this when they
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talk about the pound for pound they
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don't say his name
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enough of course and i i want to make
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sure that they say it as much as
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possible he's fighting
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this weekend in connecticut at the
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mohegan against the one and only
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ronald ellis the one and only david
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benavidez is here ladies
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it's here he's here he's here
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come on man and um first of all i just
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want to thank you guys for inviting me
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on the podcast man you know i really
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appreciate you know
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i'm a very a big fan of sway you know me
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and my family always watch sway in the
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morning interviews you know it's
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the freestyles he brings with all the
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new rappers and stuff so you know
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i'm very honored to be on here oh man
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wait you you sound like you got bars man
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you got a verse
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i wish i wish that's five bucks that's
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why you box
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yeah come on man you ain't who did you
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grow up listening to
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like who's your favorite rapper i grew
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up you know listening to you know uh
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biggie you know and jay-z you know right
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now it's a little bit you know i feel
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like the music is a little bit different
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from so i'll have a little bit different
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playlist but i listen rock
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rap you know everything everything to
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get my mind off of you know a hard day
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of training you know i mean so i just i
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just try to keep the playlist you know a
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little bit different
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hey on the day of the fight david who
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you like to who get you hyped up man
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cause i i used to like to
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listen to eminem lose yourself whenever
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i wanted to get hyped up to go do
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something what do you listen to
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i like the song i listen to a lot is dmx
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what's my name you know it just pumps
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you up you know you put that track on
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you in there you know you're getting
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ready to knock somebody out you know it
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just gives you all the
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everything you need to go in there and
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do what you got to do come on man i like
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this dude horse i like this guy man
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hey who el bindera rojo
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who's that no he's just um that was that
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was just a nickname my
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my uh my promoter gave to me when he
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signed me you know i mean
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there's just a lot of different names
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you know you just want to stand out his
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name
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it basically just means that bad dude
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over there in red you know
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that's just what it is he's a bad man
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man he's a bad man
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thank you when i look good okay now when
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i when i look at you know one of my
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reasons why i like you
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and uh i've been watching you for a long
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time you know
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and i and i remember when you fought
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anthony durell too
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and and you broke down to your knees
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after the fight and
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you just gave thanks and something about
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that moment made me go you know i like
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the way this dude
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fight like i think you're an exciting
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fighter you kind of you know you got
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your own style about you move
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differently but i wanted to find out
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about your story because the way you
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broke down made me feel like man this
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dude must have gone through some pain
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and then i start researching your story
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you know yeah
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talk about your story man your family so
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when you know when i was coming up
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basically you know
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i i started boxing just because of my
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older brother i want to be like my older
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brother
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so i started boxing at h3 and i had been
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boxing my whole
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life but i didn't really take that
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amateur boxing route you know my brother
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was a decorated amateur boxer but i
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didn't really take boxing too serious
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back then
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so i mean then my parents were divorced
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and
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my brother ended up signing with top
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rank and he went to los angeles
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we're from phoenix arizona so you know i
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i decided to stay back with my mom and
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you know i just decided to be a kid i
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think i was like 12 years old that was
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the only time in my life i didn't have
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to train
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so i took about a year off and i almost
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gained like 120 pounds something crazy
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like that man i was i went from 160
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no like 150 to 160 i know to 260 pounds
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wow so one day i just looked at myself
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in the mirror i don't even recognize
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myself no more if i keep going man
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it's not going to be good for myself and
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you know i'm going to have a lot of
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health problems so i just decided
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to go to california and to train with my
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dad just to strictly lose weight
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and then when i started losing weight
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about age 14
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you know i started sparring you know
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world champion after world champion
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and that's kind of how i got my um my
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experience
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my boxing experience in the ring and
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then i turned professional at age 16
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you know i started going up to the ranks
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of beating guys beating guys
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and then at 20 i fought for my first
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world title
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and i i won um i was the youngest ever
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in super mate
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middleweight history to win the the
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super middleweight title
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but then you know when with success you
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know a lot of money comes and a lot of
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problems comes too
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you know at 20 years old i don't think i
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was ready to you know be the champion
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you know so
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um i'd like about a year later i got you
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know
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i tested positive for you know um for
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drugs outside of the ring and
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you know i got suspenders from my belt
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no yeah i got i got they took the belt
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away and i got suspended
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so you know i just kind of just messed
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me up and just had to take a step back
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and look
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look at my career because at the time i
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was already like professional six years
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and you go from making nothing you know
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to making hundreds of thousands of
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dollars man so i mean
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it's easy to slip up but then you know i
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i
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came back again man i dedicated myself
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trained
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and then that's when i fought darrell
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you know i mean and that's you know the
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guy had never been stopped you know he'd
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only had one loss he was a veteran for
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like 14 years
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and me i was just i bet i was 22 years
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old
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so you know that was the biggest victim
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in my career up to that point
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you know i stopped him you know and
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nobody thought i could stop him and then
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i just
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i kind of just broke down because you
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know it's a year before that or two
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years before that my uncle had got
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killed you know
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two weeks before my first title fight my
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brother had got shot
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you know i think a year after i won the
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belt so i mean it was just like a lot of
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ups and downs man
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in my life and in my career and then to
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that point man i just got to my knees
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and i was like you know i'm just very
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thankful for everything that came my way
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and everything i worked for
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so right now for me honestly it's god
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first boxing second then family third
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you know what i mean because
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boxing makes everything possible for me
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god is first but boxing makes everything
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else possible for me
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and then after that is for my family you
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know so i mean i'm just very grateful
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and blessed with the way
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my career has gone and life is treating
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me so far
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man you know what um thank you for that
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honesty bro
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because what happens with fame nobody's
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prepared for
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yo david i have this theory it ain't it
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ain't natural for any human being to be
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famous
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i don't think it was meant for any one
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of us to be known all over the world and
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fame you see how it dealt
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especially with boxers we've seen it in
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the history of boxing even errol spence
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jr
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had to go through it when he when he
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wrecked his car you know you look at
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adrian broner you even look at floyd
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floyd's done really well at maintaining
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it
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but everybody kind of goes through it
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you know it's it's it
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do you think fame just like is as hard
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as
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you know like a drug do you think it's
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just as dangerous as a drug
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i think so man i think now um i didn't
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really understand
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how big of a platform i was in and then
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you know still at 20 years old you're
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still trying to find yourself man i'm
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really i'm not as mature as i am now
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20 years old you know i was just kind of
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reckless you know just enjoying my money
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now i feel like i'm a little bit more
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down the earth because i've just had my
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son five months ago
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you know i congratulations to thank you
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i have everything i want to have home i
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have
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you know my girlfriend my beautiful son
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my family you know so
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i don't need anything else man i just
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now is i'm that much closer to
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accomplishing my dream
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and my dream is being the best uh best
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of my generation by the time i'm done
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with my with my boxing career
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like that by the age of 19 dave by the
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age of 19 how hard was it you for you to
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get recognized by
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uh you know a promoter like a top ranked
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promoter anyway like was it hard for you
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to get to that point for them to even
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recognize you as a
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fighter you know coming after your
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brother and all that him being sad
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um definitely um well i had when i was
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16 years old i started my professional
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career and by the time i was 18
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i was already 10-0 with nine knockouts
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and
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i was kind of frustrated too because i
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wasn't really getting recognition nobody
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wanted to sign me
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but the one thing i would say that
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changed my career is i got invited to
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the virgin islands to spark julius
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jackson
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yeah and he was getting ready to fight
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for a title himself and
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you know i i you know i i beat him up
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pretty good you know and he at the time
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you know i was virtually unknown and he
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was about to fight for a world title so
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his promoter basically put the good word
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in for me with his promoters so you need
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to sign this kid
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because if you don't it's gonna be the
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biggest mistake of your life and
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you know i met samson lukowicz i fought
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with him and then after that you know i
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signed
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also with uh pbc and now heyman because
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samson lucowicz and now heyman works
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together
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so and then from there it wasn't it
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wasn't
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so much of the recognition but it was
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fighting for your spot because i was
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fighting against
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no other contenders in my weight and i
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was stopping one after another after
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another so
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you know um i didn't you know it wasn't
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just recognition i went
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i went and i got my respect that's
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really what it was
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wow um i heard that uh julius actually
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tapped out like he had to stop fighting
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when you guys far
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is that true um i'll leave that up for
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those
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that's between camps but he's a really
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nice guy man um he's a very good fighter
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the thing about that is that once like
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with me personally once i go up against
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other great fighters the best
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out of me comes out so sometimes you
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know another another animal might come
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out because i know the other guys is
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just as dangerous for me so i have to
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i have to go to that next level but we
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have some great sparrings and honestly i
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don't know where i'd be at if
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you take that training camp or take that
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sparring session out of the equation
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i mean i'm still i'm pretty sure i still
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would have been world champion would
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have taken me a little bit longer but
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everything happened you know exactly
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what he needed to happen and you know i
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just felt blessed for the way things
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played out
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i respect that you that you said that's
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between camps yeah that was just a
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little test right there to see if you
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was gonna snitch about y'all sparring
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sessions
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like what good people like that man um i
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don't want to throw anybody under the
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bus you know especially when they treat
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me really good you know they
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you know they treated me like their
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brother or their cousin when i was in
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the virgin islands i had never
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been to the virgin islands you know i
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mean so everything was love and
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everything's like family even to this
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day that
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that dude you know he's really cool man
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i like him a lot was that your first
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um paycheck as a pro that sparring
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sessions
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um no no my first uh paycheck as a
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sparring partner was against gennady
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golovkin
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okay and that was that i was 16 years
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old when i spared a gennady golovkin
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did he did you feel his power or it
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wasn't he was yeah
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he definitely hits hard but like i said
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that's what
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i feel like that's where i got on my end
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or on my um
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on my experience at because with these
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types of dudes especially like with me
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you know i i never wanted to get
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embarrassed
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especially in front of my dad my dad
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he's a he's a hard trainer man and if
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you do bad news he'll be the first one
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to tell you oh yeah you're just a
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[ __ ] piece of [ __ ] you know you
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should just retire but sometimes that's
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what you need to motivate you to go to
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the next level
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and i wasn't you know i was never gonna
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let you know myself get beat up in front
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of my dad but golovkin man he
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he made me think in ways different ways
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that i even to this day i use now
10:47
because
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you know you're worried about the left
10:49
foot to the body so you got to counter
10:51
him with something upstairs so
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you know you earn his respect but we had
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some amazing sparring sessions man
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i sparred him when i first fought him i
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was 15 years old that was before he made
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his us debut
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i was up here in big bear and it was
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just like a great friendship since then
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you know he recognized the talent i had
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you know i
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recognize that i was in the ring with
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the freaking lion and that i could learn
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so much from this guy so i sparred him
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from 15 to 19. the last time i sparred
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him was with his camp
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against daniel jacobs with sparring
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is sparring all out when y'all do that
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y'all go all out or is this something
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that y'all you know
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i thought sparring was something that
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you just work on a couple of things you
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know see if you could work on this and
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work on that
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how is it that y'all go all out like
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inspiring and you get to really feel
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it's it's more pride you know what i
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mean if if i hit you with a good scott
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a hard shot and i kind of rock you what
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do you want to do
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unicorn try to come back and rock me you
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know you're going to try to rock me with
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a good shot too you know what i mean so
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it starts as work but it ends up as a
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[ __ ] like a real fire fight
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you know what i mean but um but that's
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like that's that's that's why people say
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that that that same
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iron sharpens iron you know what i mean
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but at the end of the day when you get
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in the fight
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you get in a real fight you know you're
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not below you let me just work on this
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you know you got to be ready for
12:08
whatever comes your way
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how you get sparring partners you
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nobody's coming in the gym to fight you
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anyway
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how do you get sparring partners now it
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was a little bit easier back then but
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now i gotta pay them
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you know what i mean and i paid my
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sparring partners good so
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that's how i keep them uh i keep them
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pretty happy because you know if you're
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hurting guys and they're doing it for
12:27
free they don't want to spare you no
12:28
more but if you give them a paycheck
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they're like ah you know
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i'll make this sacrifice you know what i
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mean but um yeah i mean you know this i
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treat it like a job as well you know i
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treat my my sparring partners you know
12:38
at the end of the day with my family but
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they got families to feed too you know
12:41
so they got to get paid and they got to
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go back and support their families
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oh man you know uh one of the things i
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like about you too
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is you don't hold your tongue like you
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got a lot of great [ __ ]
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talkers in boxing but the way you talk
12:54
[ __ ] man it's kind of ominous
12:56
it's like you talking it but you gotta
12:58
believe it
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you know what i mean like you got
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everything to back it up
13:03
it was upsetting for me to see you lose
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your title without ever losing the fight
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you know yeah when when that happened
13:11
man how did you rectify that with being
13:13
yourself
13:15
you know what this last time that
13:16
happened i think it was just you know
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at the end of the day i got to take full
13:19
responsibility but this culver stuff man
13:21
just messed everything up especially
13:23
going into that fight in august
13:25
you know everything i really needed you
13:26
know to prepare for you know soundness
13:29
steam rooms
13:30
you know treadmills going to gyms
13:32
everything was kind of closed up in
13:33
seattle
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and then once i got to the bubble in
13:36
connecticut you know you have to
13:38
quarantine for three days
13:39
in your room and then when they allow
13:42
you to leave it's just downstairs to
13:44
like a treadmill
13:46
there's no sound as there's no steam
13:48
room you know so kind of stuff that i
13:49
needed access to
13:51
and it just kind of being a little uh
13:52
just arrogant with the weight with the
13:54
weight you know i knew
13:55
i was a little bit heavier than usual
13:56
but i thought you know i wouldn't be
13:58
able to lose it still and uh
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now i just kind of turned around and bit
14:01
me now she's not being prepared just not
14:03
being a professional you know what i
14:04
mean but
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this time that's why i came to camp i've
14:06
been in big bear for three months or you
14:08
know i've been away from my son
14:10
i missed his first christmas his first
14:12
everything but that's the type of stuff
14:14
that you have to sacrifice you know in
14:15
order to make these changes to better
14:17
yourself as a man
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as an athlete you know and and and as a
14:20
person man
14:21
this this kind of stuff has to be done
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but the thing that about myself right
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now that i'm not really dwelling too
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much
14:27
on on my past mistakes the thing i'm
14:30
looking at it now is
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that you know i'm working extremely hard
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i know what's in front of me and i know
14:35
i can make it happen i know i'm one of
14:36
the best in super middleweight division
14:38
and you know with the motivation to have
14:40
my son having my family
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i feel like the sky's the limit for me
14:43
you know and i'm more of a professional
14:44
now than i was back then
14:46
what was your comfortable weight that
14:48
you you felt comfortable at what's the
14:49
comfortable weight 168 you feel real
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comfortable
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yeah 168 so earlier i had a pretty good
14:54
run
14:55
i weighed 170 or 171 so that's three
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pounds away from weight and i don't wait
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i don't have my weight
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until next week next friday so
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that's extremely close you know i've
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never really been that close on weight
15:06
you know a week prior but i mean just
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that just shows you how hard i've been
15:10
working but
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on off season i'll probably be like 195
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so like a 194 one of you for like 25
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pounds
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damn [ __ ] okay um
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that that so the
15:25
day before the fight or the day before
15:27
the weigh-in you still may not be at
15:28
weight
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um well i mean right now i'm three
15:31
pounds away from weight
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okay so that's that's good for you
15:35
that's great for you
15:36
right okay and that i always was curious
15:39
when you have to drop so much weight and
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this is and this is my
15:42
my boxing and experience you know but i
15:45
did
15:45
play sports i ran track you know and i
15:48
know when we fluctuated in weight
15:50
that it affected our strength you know
15:52
how do you regain your
15:54
strength you know when you're losing so
15:56
much weight so rapidly do you feel that
15:58
in the ring or by does it in 24 hours
16:00
you are
16:01
already regained it well i think in 24
16:03
hours you know you'll feel
16:05
definitely weak that the day before the
16:06
wane or the day of the weigh-in but you
16:08
know after you just try to drink a
16:10
gallon of water
16:11
eat three times you know and um i mean
16:13
it's always worked for me you know i've
16:15
always felt amazing right after the wind
16:16
but you know you definitely have to
16:17
drink a lot of water
16:18
and um you know eat some good food you
16:20
know you can't go out you know that you
16:22
have to eat certain foods too you can't
16:23
go out any
16:24
state i mean or not steak you can't
16:26
drink soda or go eat mcdonald's or any
16:28
of that trash you know you got to
16:30
actually eat a salmon
16:31
some rice and and some uh some pasta man
16:34
you got to eat some good nutrients
16:35
some good nutrients listen to david the
16:37
former this kid was overweight for a
16:39
long time
16:39
a long time you know now you sound like
16:42
a health nut hey man
16:43
i read that your father thought you were
16:45
depressed when you were overweight
16:47
and that was the cause of it do you
16:49
agree with that um
16:52
i've never heard that when you say that
16:54
no
16:55
it's just uh i mean when you're
16:58
overweight obviously you know everybody
16:59
feels a little bit you know they look at
17:01
themselves and a little bit depressed
17:02
but i mean back then yeah maybe
17:05
because i didn't know if i was going to
17:06
be able to lose the weight because when
17:07
you're a little kid bro you're
17:09
12 years old you look at the scale 260
17:11
pounds a lot of weight
17:12
you don't know if you're gonna be able
17:13
to make it down all the way to once uh
17:15
168 170 so um i could say i was a little
17:19
bit depressed because of that but
17:20
i mean i was it was never like a severe
17:22
depression and i was just disappointed
17:24
in myself
17:26
disappointed in yourself man david
17:28
benavidez is joining us with bridge
17:30
business
17:30
um you got a fight coming up and
17:33
nobody's really talking about the
17:35
opponent like that
17:36
like ronald ellis man the dude has only
17:38
lost one fight you know what i mean he
17:40
got some experience under his belt
17:42
how much of a threat i mean i know
17:44
anything could happen in the ring but
17:45
how concerned are you about this guy
17:48
i mean i treat ronald ellis like every
17:50
other fighter you know i i prepared for
17:52
him like if he was a world champion
17:53
i've been in camp for three months you
17:55
know i've been running five six
17:56
seven miles daily i've been getting 15
17:59
rounds into sparring three different
18:00
sparring uh partners you know so
18:02
i worked extremely hard so i mean i'm
18:05
not really
18:05
i'm not really worried about what he
18:07
could do you know i'm still
18:08
i'm not gonna go in there try to just
18:10
run in and rush him and
18:11
you know not respect his power or his
18:13
speed because at the end of the day he's
18:15
probably i think he's been longer he's
18:16
been a professional longer than me
18:18
yeah so you got to respect that you got
18:20
to respect that everybody has a
18:21
puncher's chance
18:22
but you know i'm already um
18:25
the way the type of fighter i am you
18:27
know 23 fights 20 knockouts
18:30
you know i'm a heavy body shot puncher i
18:32
got great uppercuts great jabs great
18:34
speed
18:35
you know i know faster than him so i
18:37
don't really see him too much of a
18:38
threat
18:39
but i still got to go in there and be
18:40
cautious but i feel like i'm gonna get
18:41
them out of there before six rounds
18:43
is this fight like a tune-up fight for
18:45
something big that's supposed to happen
18:46
because i feel like you should be
18:48
fighting uh
18:49
you know plant and the rest of these
18:50
guys that's out there like you know
18:52
saunders and canelo i feel like you you
18:55
you're a hard hitter
18:56
you proved it i mean when you fought
18:58
against darrell i thought she was battle
19:00
tested i think that was the test that
19:01
showed that like yo you know what
19:03
this kid is really built for this right
19:04
here like you know cause i feel like
19:05
they feel like you
19:06
really never fought nobody but after
19:08
fighting the dog and you got into that
19:10
dog fight with him and stopping him
19:11
i think that you got recognized yeah so
19:14
the thing about that is man you know
19:16
i'm trying to get the fight the best
19:17
fights as possible you know i just
19:19
turned 24
19:20
uh in december and i've been
19:21
professional eight years so i i kind of
19:23
want a little bit more excitement i want
19:25
to put myself to the test
19:27
and i've been calling out caleb plan
19:29
i've been calling out canelo i'll be
19:30
calling out charlo but
19:32
you know i'm willing to make these
19:34
fights happen i was also supposed to
19:35
before
19:36
ronald ellis i was supposed to fight
19:37
jose who's kentucky he didn't accept it
19:39
i was also supposed to fight lanell
19:41
thompson the guy that briefed kentucky
19:43
he didn't accept either
19:44
so what am i supposed to do when nobody
19:45
wants to fight you know i mean
19:47
uh ronald ellis was only one who
19:48
accepted the challenge so i gotta give
19:50
him respect to that
19:52
you know he's doing something not not
19:54
anybody else wants to do
19:55
but like i'm willing to fight whoever
19:57
that's why i want to fight charlo after
19:58
this fight
19:59
i want to fight kayla playing i want to
20:01
fight canelo you know i want the big
20:02
names i feel like
20:03
i know i deserve it i deserve the big
20:06
names because i've been here eight years
20:08
i'm proven i've proven myself i've done
20:10
stuff there that
20:11
you know not really too much other
20:12
people in this weight division have done
20:13
i've proven myself so i want
20:15
big names but you know i feel like a lot
20:17
of other fighters think that it's too
20:18
much of a risk to take me on
20:20
especially right now so you know i can't
20:23
speak on their behalf and why the fights
20:24
aren't happening i'm willing to make
20:26
whatever fight happens so
20:27
if it's not happening it's because if
20:28
caleb plan doesn't want to make the
20:30
fight
20:30
charlo don't want to make the fight
20:31
canelo don't make the fight you know i
20:33
have no control
20:34
in that in that area right there i
20:36
thought charlie wanted to make the fight
20:37
though
20:38
yeah well hopefully he does hopefully we
20:40
can get it made after this fight you
20:41
know charlo is another great fighter too
20:43
you know we've been going back and forth
20:45
because it all started
20:47
i don't know if you've been keeping
20:48
track of that or you know seeing that
20:50
you know um
20:51
it all started because i was uh there
20:54
he was gonna ask you he said he's gonna
20:55
go to 168.
20:57
and everybody and now everybody who kept
20:59
asking me what do i think about a fight
21:01
like that you know what i mean
21:02
so um i said that it would be a good
21:05
fight you know just because the type of
21:06
fighter he is
21:07
you know and these other people kept uh
21:09
no and then i did it
21:10
give me give me a second okay
21:16
i'm sorry bro he's making noise in the
21:18
back oh okay i don't know what that was
21:20
i thought there was a wi-fi
21:25
um and then charlo said that he would
21:27
snap my neck and he would knock me out
21:29
you know in the first round
21:31
that he would knock me the [ __ ] out and
21:32
i said you know what you say you've been
21:34
do that you're gonna knock me the [ __ ]
21:35
out you better be ready to see me in the
21:37
ring i'm not
21:37
playing with nobody here you know i'm
21:39
you know you better be willing to back
21:41
it up
21:41
and then he says i have to be you know
21:44
older than 25 years old
21:46
i have to have i have to be vaccinated
21:48
now he don't want to come up to 168 you
21:50
know what i mean so i feel like he's
21:51
just backpedaling and all this stuff
21:52
he's saying
21:53
but um if we could get that fight going
21:55
on i feel like that's a pay-per-view
21:56
worthy fight you know that's definitely
21:57
smells knockout for
21:59
you know i feel like i can knock him out
22:01
and he feels like he can knock me out so
22:02
you know be a great fight for the fans i
22:04
feel like there's a couple of fights
22:06
that'll be great for the fans
22:07
you know you and uh berlinga i think
22:09
that'll be a great fight at 168 i think
22:12
um you know you and i mean you know
22:15
charlo of course you know but he's not
22:16
going to come up to 168. i think you
22:18
know you're going to stay at 160 i think
22:20
him and um seb uh sebastian fedora would
22:22
be a good fight if they could catch up
22:24
with the fight like a
22:25
you know that would be a better fight
22:26
for him than you but um i feel like
22:28
in the state of boxing today what do you
22:30
think about the belts as far as the
22:31
interim belt
22:32
and the franchise belt in those
22:33
divisions what do you think about those
22:35
making up these belts
22:36
well let me answer the question that you
22:38
have or the thing you're talking about
22:39
before there's two charlos one of them
22:41
has a 154 and the other one's at 160.
22:43
yeah jamal and joel yeah so he's the one
22:46
he said himself he's going to come up to
22:47
160.
22:48
but um as for the champions i mean
22:52
i think everything was good with all the
22:54
belts until they started making the
22:56
interim
22:57
you know the the regular champion super
22:59
champion you know there's so much
23:01
there's so much different belts right
23:03
now man that doesn't really make no
23:04
sense
23:05
i feel like all the sanctuary bodies
23:08
have to be there
23:08
the wbc the ibf and the wba and the wbo
23:12
because man that's those titles are like
23:15
legendary it's like taking away the
23:16
heisman trophy
23:18
or taking away you know uh the nfc or
23:20
the afc trophy man those
23:22
those things have been there for such a
23:24
long time but i feel like they just have
23:25
to take
23:26
everything else away like uh interim a
23:29
super champion
23:30
regular champion i think it just should
23:32
be one world title for each sanctuary
23:33
body
23:35
okay you know when i think about like
23:38
you're gonna get your
23:38
day in court so to speak you know what i
23:41
mean it's gonna happen as long as you
23:43
keep knocking people out
23:44
it's gonna be inevitable and i and i
23:46
think of uh
23:48
like people's legacy when you think of
23:50
tandems like sugar ray leonard and
23:52
thomas hearns you think of ali you think
23:54
of frasier
23:54
right you think of floyd mayweather you
23:56
think of pacquiao um
23:58
and these two those that tandem is going
24:01
to go down in history
24:02
who do you think that opponent is for
24:04
you
24:05
who do you think that i think there's a
24:07
couple of them i think there's
24:10
i think canelo he's definitely gonna be
24:13
you know one of the person that's gonna
24:14
bring myself out to motivate me to be
24:16
the best of myself
24:18
once that fight comes into play and the
24:20
other one i think is berlinga you know i
24:22
think because of how much
24:23
there is at stake he's mixed or no i'm
24:25
mexican and he's puerto rican
24:27
you know i mean so the rivalry's already
24:29
set in stone you know and then then
24:31
what makes even more interesting is he
24:33
has 17 knockouts
24:35
i have 20 knockouts so that's we're just
24:37
two big hitters right there and that's
24:39
what people want to see
24:40
honestly people want to see two dudes or
24:41
high percentage high percentage kos
24:44
go at each other and it just makes it
24:46
better though he's puerto rican and all
24:47
mexicans
24:48
man i never seen somebody so so
24:51
like accepting of the fact that i'm
24:53
about to stand next to somebody who can
24:55
knock me out man you don't have no you
24:57
don't fear that
24:58
you know like when you step in the ring
25:01
i mean you don't fear being knocked out
25:03
like what i wouldn't want to ever be
25:04
knocked out i mean
25:07
though i've never been knocked out and
25:08
i've never been hurt in my whole
25:11
21 years of boxing so i mean i kind of
25:13
know what i'm dealing with you know i
25:15
kind of know what to do
25:16
but at the end of the day man you know
25:18
the bigger the risk the bigger the
25:20
reward
25:20
you know if you're a warrior you got to
25:22
have no fear and that's i consider
25:23
myself a modern-day gladiator i consider
25:25
myself a warrior
25:27
you know when i'm in the ring you know i
25:29
push it i push it to the limit because
25:31
i believe in what i could do i know what
25:32
i could do and i know i'm going to be
25:34
the best you know i know it's not going
25:36
to be easy
25:37
but you know greatness doesn't come easy
25:40
like that you like that horse i'm loving
25:42
your answers man because
25:44
greatness doesn't come easy right so my
25:47
so question for you is um so if you
25:49
can't get charlo
25:50
who would you like you want plan after
25:52
that when do you become somebody's
25:54
mandatory when are you the next
25:55
mandatory for somebody
25:57
well i'm going to be the next mandatory
25:58
after b-ron rebels that's supposed to be
26:01
um a wbc title eliminator so
26:05
that's supposed to be mandatory for
26:06
canelo right after this so but
26:08
like you know i just the things that i
26:10
don't really know what's going on man
26:11
with canelo is just
26:13
he goes one other way you know he fights
26:15
the easier opponents because when i had
26:17
the wbc title bro he i never got
26:20
a call from their side you know i never
26:22
you know everybody else did everybody
26:24
you know they were uh
26:25
they were trying to negotiate fights
26:27
caleb plant billy joe sanders town smith
26:29
i never got nobody ever you know
26:31
contacted us
26:33
but as soon as the title goes away you
26:34
know and i don't make weight he requests
26:36
to fight my mandatory you know i mean so
26:39
i mean he could have fought me i don't
26:41
know i mean i still don't understand why
26:42
i wasn't the mandatory for that fight
26:44
i mean i feel like the the dude that had
26:46
the belt if he loses on the scale he
26:48
should still be the mandatory
26:49
and it was a bigger fight it was a
26:51
bigger fight you know me and canelo
26:52
would have been a bigger fight than
26:54
canelo nildrum
26:55
i would have been ready man they just
26:56
fought last week i would have been ready
26:58
i'm already ready right now so
26:59
you know i just don't know what's going
27:01
on right there but um
27:03
to be honest whoever i got to go through
27:04
whoever i gotta beat to being next in
27:06
line for a title i i'll fight whoever it
27:08
doesn't matter to me
27:10
canelo pound for pound right now you
27:13
know uh
27:14
him and t bud crawford two my favorites
27:17
and i think
27:18
um had you not lost the the title you
27:20
would be considered that
27:22
as well but what it sound like to me is
27:24
that you're implying that and i've heard
27:26
you talk about that
27:27
that canelo is avoiding you is that what
27:30
you believe in your heart of hearts
27:32
um i mean i try not to say
27:35
he's avoiding me because i know fighters
27:36
don't avoid fighters
27:38
but like when it starts happening over
27:40
and over you know i don't get a call you
27:42
know nobody's trying to negotiate with
27:43
me
27:44
or he goes and fights my mandatory
27:46
instead of fighting me
27:48
so i just got to see how the next
27:51
the next step plays out if i you know
27:54
when i win
27:55
the wbc you know title eliminator
27:58
and i don't get a fight with canelo when
28:00
i'm the mandatory
28:02
then then that's when i'll say he's
28:03
avoiding me i don't want to say it yet
28:05
but
28:05
you know that's why it's kind of looks
28:06
like a shaping out to be but
28:08
i feel like anybody who doesn't fight me
28:10
now are more in trouble if they wait
28:12
longer because i'm getting more
28:13
experience
28:14
you know i'm not even in my prime yet i
28:16
just turned 24 years old but i feel like
28:18
i'm getting that much closer to my man
28:20
strength
28:20
i mean i'm already powerful as it is so
28:22
i can't imagine how i'm going to feel
28:23
when i'm in my prime so
28:25
next year i'm going to be 25 next the
28:27
year after that would be 26 so i'm
28:28
getting that much closer to my prime so
28:30
you know if they're in trouble if they
28:32
already feel like they're in trouble now
28:34
i don't know i don't even know what to
28:35
expect in two years you know they're
28:36
going to be
28:37
in in so much danger my heart is really
28:40
telling me canelo
28:41
canelo is going to retire with the belts
28:43
he ain't gonna fight you man i believe
28:45
that
28:45
canelo gonna get the belt he's gonna
28:47
leave with that one loss with mayweather
28:49
and he gonna retire out gracefully i
28:51
don't really think that he's gonna fight
28:52
you i think the fight that everybody's
28:53
gonna want to see
28:54
is with you and balanga and everybody
28:56
you know the canelo and
28:58
whoever's up coming rise i think those
28:59
gonna be the fights i think canelo's
29:00
gonna get the belt he's gonna retire
29:02
he's gonna get out the picture yeah and
29:04
though i mean also too if if the fight
29:06
will canelo happens
29:07
great if it doesn't happen you know it's
29:09
whatever okay i feel like there's
29:11
there's there's a lot of other good
29:12
fighters make happen and i got to pave
29:14
my own way
29:15
i don't want to feel like that fighter
29:16
that always this guy's just desperate to
29:18
fight canelo because i'm really not
29:19
desperate to fight canelo i got time on
29:20
my side i got at least
29:22
12 years left in this boxing game you
29:24
know i mean you know 10 or 12 years so
29:26
i mean and i feel like i give the type
29:28
of style i have you know i'm a fan
29:30
friendly fighter i give knockouts
29:32
i'm a pressure fighter where that's what
29:34
they want to see you know
29:35
and you know it'll be a good fight with
29:36
me and whoever whoever the top guys are
29:38
so i mean i'm not i'm not desperate or
29:40
nothing
29:41
the thing i am desperate about is i want
29:43
to show the fighters who the best really
29:45
is and i feel like that is me
29:47
hey what's the most punches you you've
29:49
thrown in the combination
29:52
um well the ones i landed the cleanest
29:54
was that knockout
29:56
but i i do stuff like that regularly in
29:58
the gym this last time
29:59
in the gym i did a combination that was
30:02
20 punches
30:03
no bullets or 20 punches come on
30:08
yeah i'm gonna have to invite you to one
30:10
of my sparrings later so you could
30:11
you have to see it to believe it bro you
30:13
have to see it hey i got to take you
30:15
back to this room
30:15
you never got hurt in no fight like you
30:17
never got dang the
30:19
days there's nothing i got knocked down
30:21
one time but it was if you
30:22
you take it back you look at it's more
30:24
of an off-balance
30:25
knock down when i fought around with
30:27
gravel the first time i mean you'd be
30:28
decide you could
30:29
you could judge it on your own um but as
30:32
from that
30:32
no never never been rocked never been
30:35
you know
30:36
hurt nothing like that you sound bored
30:39
with the competition to me
30:41
that's what i meant that's why i just
30:43
want to make that i want to make the
30:44
best fights possible man like if
30:46
so like if you've been professional
30:47
eight years already man like you like
30:49
[ __ ] i've just been fighting guys i've
30:51
been stopping them yes of course but
30:53
i want i want to get that fight where
30:55
you know sometimes i don't know if i'm
30:57
going to win or not
30:58
so i could bring the best out in me you
31:00
know i mean because sometimes when you
31:01
get a competition in front of you that
31:03
is paired up like the talent-wise is
31:05
paired up yeah you know there's there's
31:07
there's a certain aspect that comes out
31:09
of
31:10
like um just greatness man greatness if
31:14
you've been preparing yourself for
31:15
your whole life that you know something
31:17
just just comes out of you man that you
31:18
really can't explain
31:20
your brother man i got a lot of respect
31:22
for your brother man i remember
31:24
watching him fight crawford and thinking
31:27
early on in the fight oh wow considering
31:29
all this man that gun has gone through
31:30
with
31:31
you know being shot in the knees um damn
31:34
he was hanging i thought he was doing i
31:35
could see
31:36
like how great of a boxer he is man what
31:39
where what is his status now when it
31:41
comes to boxing
31:42
well you know with him you know i feel
31:44
like he took that loss pretty hard
31:46
um you know it was a really big fight
31:48
and i think if you just
31:50
that one shot man i think he just kind
31:52
of messed up his confidence a little bit
31:54
because he was doing great until that
31:56
last you know in the
31:57
that last shot and that's the thing
31:59
about box man you have to be
32:01
extremely prepared for those last shots
32:03
in those last 10 seconds 20 seconds
32:06
but as of right now i've been sparring
32:07
him you know i've been outsparing him in
32:09
washington and um
32:10
he just had a baby as well you know he
32:12
just had a daughter so i feel like
32:14
he's just enjoying you know um he's
32:16
enjoying you know just being a father
32:18
because then before he was a
32:19
professional he had 200 amateur fights
32:21
he had like 15 national world uh
32:23
national titles
32:24
so i mean he did you know from
32:27
transitioning to the amateurs
32:28
all the way to the professionals you
32:29
know it's a long career he probably has
32:32
25 years boxing or more or you know
32:35
something like that so i feel like
32:37
sometimes you just get burned out but um
32:40
you know he's enjoying his time with his
32:41
daughter right now but i'm gonna bring
32:42
him up to camp with me my next fight so
32:44
maybe he could get uh get some more
32:46
fights going into the future
32:48
you know what we love to bring bridge
32:49
business to the camp too horse and i'll
32:51
come in
32:52
i mean you know we could throw some
32:54
gloves on too man
32:56
oh and uh definitely if you would be
32:58
able to do after all this coconut is
33:00
over and i would love for you guys
33:01
to see some of my sparring because a lot
33:03
of people don't believe when i say
33:04
atlanta's 15 punch combination until
33:06
they see it then oh this is a bad
33:08
[ __ ] right here i didn't i
33:09
thought he was bullshitting
33:10
but um i really did this the stuff i'm
33:12
telling you i really do it you know and
33:13
it's just
33:14
and then just uh just so you could see
33:16
another you know i mean um
33:18
you know i appreciate the love and
33:20
support you guys gave me so i would love
33:21
to you know let you guys you know see
33:23
one of my sparring sessions in the
33:24
future
33:24
oh man come on man dude like us bro
33:29
you know we used to go to um sean
33:31
porter's uh sparring sessions when he
33:33
would be in brooklyn him and his dad
33:35
kenny
33:35
you know and and we just like being like
33:38
flies on the wall man like just
33:40
absorbing all of that bro it's
33:42
it's go ahead sometimes with sparring
33:45
too i feel like
33:46
there's less pressure in the sparring
33:48
session so you know sometimes you do
33:50
even better
33:51
you know because you're just sitting
33:52
there having fun you're just in there
33:53
trying different stuff and there's not
33:54
that much people in there so sometimes
33:56
some sparring sessions will be you know
33:58
just as good as fights we're probably
33:59
even better
34:01
hey do you do you have your sights on
34:02
anybody in the uh in the light
34:04
heavyweight division
34:06
yeah definitely i would love to fight um
34:09
bottle jack i would love to fight john
34:11
pascal
34:13
and sodor ramirez and dimitri people
34:18
yeah so i mean there's um you know
34:20
there's a lot of there's a lot
34:21
that's what i'm saying like if the fight
34:23
with canelo don't happen i'm not
34:24
desperate to fight him
34:26
i want to show the people i'm the best
34:27
and because i know i could be him but
34:29
aside from him canelo is not the only
34:31
fighter in boxing that would be some
34:33
great fights
34:34
you know there's so much other fights
34:35
you know there's callum smith that's
34:37
billy joe sanders
34:38
there's caleb plant there's charlo
34:40
there's sodor ramirez there's freaking
34:42
dimitri vivald
34:44
yeah john pascal bob me and bottle jab
34:46
will be a great fight too you know what
34:47
i mean me and him
34:48
you know he's a warrior i'm a warrior so
34:50
there's a lot of i just named you like
34:52
eight great fights right there
34:53
so i mean so there's a lot of good
34:54
fights to make happen for myself
34:57
why aren't these fights taking place why
34:59
aren't the promoters when you want to
35:00
fight somebody do your po
35:02
you go to your training promoter say hey
35:03
i want this guy and they make something
35:06
is that how we go or they say oh it's
35:07
too dangerous well i mean
35:10
sometimes the thing that holds
35:11
everything back is the the companies
35:14
because like say a lot of these
35:17
companies they want to keep the money
35:18
for themselves you know
35:19
there's very rare that you know they'll
35:20
do a 50 50. you know like if it's pbc
35:23
with daz and
35:24
or pbc with top rank you know sometimes
35:26
the promoters and they get greedy they
35:27
want to do like a
35:28
it's just like how the fighters are you
35:30
know somebody's here some fighters say
35:31
60 40.
35:32
you know sometimes the promotion
35:34
companies you know they don't see eye to
35:36
eye and they don't come to an agreement
35:37
but as of late i've been seeing
35:40
promoters working with each other better
35:42
you know like you see oscar de la hoya
35:43
and dazn you see top rank in the pbc
35:46
when tyson fury fought uh deontay wilder
35:50
yeah so i feel like i feel like the
35:52
fighter uh the promotion companies
35:53
realize that
35:54
you know this is the best way to conduct
35:56
business and
35:57
to even bring to elevate the world of
35:59
boxing even more to like how it was back
36:01
then that
36:01
everybody has to work with each other
36:03
mm-hmm and the best fought the best
36:05
that's what it was the best fought the
36:06
best
36:07
excuse me gentlemen i'm gonna take a sip
36:09
out of my bridge business coffee mug
36:15
that's new but by the way david i saw
36:17
you got the benavidez hats that you
36:18
giving away on your instagram what's up
36:20
with that man
36:21
you know yeah definitely send me send me
36:24
an address that you want me send it to i
36:25
got both of you guys i'll send you guys
36:27
both hats
36:28
i i like seeing that because you know
36:30
just hearing your story and knowing a
36:32
lot about your family's story and the
36:34
ups and downs y'all went through
36:35
especially dealing with fame and as you
36:37
said
36:38
being 20 years old making six figures
36:40
that ain't normal
36:41
you know you don't you probably can't
36:43
name one person in your in your peer
36:44
group that was doing that you know in
36:46
your family in your neighborhood right
36:48
and then like you go from it like
36:51
the transition from you know i fought
36:53
eight fights in mexico
36:55
seven fights and i didn't get a dollar
36:57
and then it went from ten thousand
36:59
twenty thousand you know but before i
37:02
knew i was making four hundred thousand
37:03
dollars like i don't even know what's
37:04
doing all this money man
37:06
you know like it's crazy and then
37:07
sometimes you know you just you go crazy
37:09
with the money like i honestly did
37:11
sometimes money just goes
37:12
it makes you go crazy but now you just i
37:15
feel like the best teacher in life is
37:16
experience
37:17
you know if you could put a hold on it
37:19
you have experience you know your
37:20
mistakes
37:21
you know what you what route to take you
37:23
know that's the best that's the best
37:24
teacher in life
37:25
what you learn about money this this
37:27
bridge business so we like to talk about
37:28
the business aspects
37:31
the most important thing about money is
37:32
you got to pay your taxes
37:35
and you know the thing i'm happy about
37:37
right now is i just opened the escort
37:39
you know not too long ago so well that
37:41
is for the people so the boxes that
37:43
didn't know you know i didn't know
37:45
either you know you got to educate
37:46
yourself too so with the s4
37:48
you basically make a company you make an
37:50
llc
37:51
and you put money in there and you pay
37:53
yourself you know a wage whatever you
37:55
want to pay yourself say i make 300 000
37:58
if i pay myself from the company i pay
38:01
myself 150
38:03
you know i only got to pay 20 percent in
38:05
tax another 150 that stays
38:07
in my uh in my escort i don't have to
38:09
pay any taxes on that
38:11
so you know would you rather pay 37
38:14
on 300 000 or 20 on 150. you know it's
38:18
just it's just
38:19
common knowledge right there and that's
38:20
just stuff people don't know man
38:22
and honestly you can make a whole bunch
38:24
of money bro and then
38:26
these taxes will come back and get you
38:27
especially if you don't pay them and
38:28
these taxes
38:30
the ira has no place so i mean i feel
38:32
like that's the one thing about money
38:34
now that that
38:35
put a hold on it now is making sure to
38:36
pay my taxes and
38:38
you know giving the irs their part first
38:41
before i go and spend money on myself
38:43
i love that so are you promoting your
38:47
own fights now too being a team
38:48
benavidez are y'all promoting fights now
38:50
too are you performing
38:51
um well my dad he has a couple fighters
38:53
but me as right now i feel like
38:56
um i'm still under samson lukowicz now
38:58
heyman you know so i really don't have
39:00
time to be
39:00
you know have fighters and promote
39:02
fighters maybe later
39:03
later in my career but as right now i
39:05
just gotta i gotta focus on my own
39:07
career first
39:09
hmm you keep naming the uh promoters you
39:12
uh
39:12
people you with now but there's a lot of
39:14
boxes that's going to be watching this
39:16
and they're going to get a lot of doors
39:18
closed in their face before
39:19
they start getting the recognition they
39:21
may deserve they got to earn it
39:23
how many promoters turned you down
39:25
coming up in your career
39:27
um a lot of them all the big ones before
39:30
i even got an opportunity
39:31
todd brain golden boy eddie hearn
39:34
and um yeah i was horrible like [ __ ] i
39:38
just want the opportunity bro to show
39:40
myself and then sometimes you got to
39:42
take
39:43
the thing about it is that when somebody
39:45
doesn't believe in you sometimes you got
39:46
to take the little money
39:48
just to show you know just to show what
39:51
you could do
39:52
and then you start negotiating then the
39:53
prices start going up but um
39:55
you know i first signed i didn't have my
39:57
my first fight with
39:59
was ten thousand dollars and um
40:03
you know you got to split that with your
40:04
team but it's just the opportunity man
40:07
this is just opportunity that you just
40:08
do you know you got to do as best as you
40:10
can and
40:11
show out and then you know the the
40:13
demand starts going up and then you you
40:14
know
40:15
your prices start going up do you think
40:17
if social media was out back then you
40:19
would have got on a little
40:20
you got a promoters coming at you um
40:22
with more money if the social media
40:24
was as big as it is today i don't think
40:26
so i think it was the same
40:27
it would have been the same i mean
40:30
social media for me social media man
40:33
there's a lot of great a lot of great
40:35
fighters
40:36
that look great on social media and they
40:39
kind of get into their own head
40:40
they've kind of let their head get
40:42
inflated and then they don't look how
40:43
they're supposed to look
40:44
at their fights so i mean social media
40:46
is either good or bad you know what i
40:48
mean but for me
40:49
um i mean i didn't really have a big
40:52
following i mean i have a okay following
40:53
now on social media but i think in my
40:55
fights alone and my performances just
40:57
speak for itself
40:58
man you got 131 000 followers on
41:01
instagram that's a big following what
41:02
are you talking about yeah
41:06
you know me horace we um we me and
41:08
horace were talking about this
41:10
teal female and uh this deal that's
41:13
that's floating out there i don't know
41:14
all the details horse but what was it
41:16
with
41:17
well i think that they did like a
41:18
bidding war and i think eddie hearn in
41:20
him what the bidding war because i think
41:21
top rank was offering tia fema i think
41:23
like 1.5 or something like that to fight
41:26
and i think after he did the deal with
41:27
trilla i think that he came away if it
41:29
goes
41:30
through the way supposed to go through i
41:31
think he'd come off with like 4 million
41:32
or 3.5 million so he doubled
41:34
what tom brady was giving him if i'm
41:36
correct is that the way of the future
41:38
you think
41:39
i mean there's there's two parts about
41:41
that mate
41:42
it's good that he went and got that
41:43
money but he still has to go back to top
41:46
rank
41:47
you know and then top rank is not going
41:49
to like that they're probably going to
41:50
try to sit them down
41:52
or they're going to their lawsuits
41:54
that's when the lawsuits come out you
41:55
can't do nothing
41:56
you know and lawsuits could last up to
41:59
three four years and you've seen what
42:00
happened with mike garcia in top ranked
42:02
back then
42:03
you know what mikey garcia was sitting
42:04
out for like three years and if you sit
42:06
out so long
42:08
you know you have to and you have no you
42:10
can't fight you know the sanctity bodies
42:12
they're gonna want to take those titles
42:14
away because if you sit out for so long
42:15
you know god willing that doesn't happen
42:17
to uh
42:18
to teal female and i like to females a
42:20
great fighter but you know there's
42:21
there's a big mess behind that you know
42:23
and i wouldn't want to be in this
42:24
position yeah he's getting a good money
42:25
but
42:26
you know at the end of the day he has he
42:28
still has a contract with top rank
42:30
hmm are you as frustrated as the boxing
42:33
fans are
42:34
um because i know you're a boxing fan
42:36
too i know you grew up studying the
42:38
great fights and the great fighters
42:40
you i know you're roy jones fan too
42:42
right
42:43
yeah definitely yeah uh so when you see
42:46
like we all want to see earl spencer jr
42:48
and and and terence crawford fight
42:51
do boxers get frustrated too when those
42:52
fights don't happen or because you know
42:54
what goes on behind the scenes
42:56
it don't really oh yeah definitely man
42:58
it's just that
42:59
like i felt like i want to get i want to
43:01
see that fight too bro i mean that's a
43:02
great fight and that's a great fight
43:04
that you're taking away from boxing
43:06
history you know what i mean
43:08
and i feel like both fighters they
43:10
should just do a 50 50
43:11
you know and or the best or the winner
43:14
takes the bonus
43:15
i think it should be 40 40 and the
43:16
winner takes 20. you know what i mean so
43:19
but like you see fights like that not
43:21
happening and then you see
43:23
honestly i don't think javonte davis and
43:26
and ryan garcia is ever going to happen
43:28
either
43:29
um or ryan garcia or fimo i think the
43:32
fight that's most likely to happen
43:34
is ryan garcia and devin haney because
43:36
they're in the same promotion company
43:38
but man there's a lot of great fights
43:40
that that you know that aren't being
43:41
made
43:42
you know what or like when they when
43:44
they are made it's just way too late
43:46
you know i mean like you know don't
43:48
disrespect the floyd or pacquiao but
43:49
that fight i think it came
43:51
you know years year years and years
43:53
later than when it should have happened
43:54
but
43:54
yeah you do get frustrated when you
43:56
don't see the fights happening that
43:57
and that you want to see because at the
43:59
end of the day we just want to see some
44:00
great fights this is why we got this is
44:01
why we got in the business
44:03
to see great fights and make great
44:04
fights happen
44:06
i appreciate a strategist though you
44:08
know let's talk about floyd for example
44:11
um people claim that floyd waited
44:14
that long on purpose so you know maybe
44:16
manny could slow down
44:17
a bit you know because manny was a beast
44:20
you know man he was
44:21
moving up in divisions and knocking
44:23
[ __ ] out everywhere he went
44:24
right
44:25
yeah and they say he caught him at the
44:27
right time in his life in his career
44:28
they also say that floyd
44:30
caught canelo early at the right time
44:34
you know because of his inexperience at
44:36
that time i think we all agree that
44:38
canelo even canelo may agree that he
44:40
became a better fighter after fighting
44:42
floyd
44:42
his defense just kind of improved uh
44:45
tremendously
44:46
to me do you do you do you have
44:50
respect for that as a strategist as a
44:52
boxer though
44:53
you know like it's this is
44:54
self-preservation i want to prolong my
44:56
career
44:57
um i want to hit and not be hit you know
45:00
yeah i think so i mean
45:02
obviously you if it's very obvious that
45:04
floyd mayweather is one of the greatest
45:06
thinkers in boxing
45:07
ever you know and that you know the
45:09
strategy he made is by
45:11
you know it's that's really the reason
45:12
why he probably waited so longer
45:14
you know it could have went either way
45:16
you know pacquiao could have preserved
45:17
itself
45:18
himself and you know he could have made
45:20
mayweather look like that but i don't i
45:22
don't to be honest man is this
45:24
i think mayweather's mayweather i don't
45:25
think anybody would ever be him
45:27
at all even if it was too early or too
45:29
late or in the right time of the career
45:30
i think mabel is just made whether he's
45:32
just a beast
45:33
but people are always going to try to
45:35
tank mayweather's reputation and his
45:37
career you know there's always something
45:39
behind one of his victories you know
45:40
oh he waited so long you know the judge
45:43
is this and now it's always something
45:45
you gotta just respect me with it man i
45:47
don't think there'll ever be a boxer
45:48
like him you know a thinker
45:50
a defensive fighter of offensive fighter
45:52
he was just one of the best and
45:53
he was very fun to watch i agree with
45:56
that horse
45:58
okay but this is the only thing i got to
46:00
say now though i don't know about that
46:02
fight with logan paul and mayweather i
46:04
really don't want to watch this
46:09
do you think he's in danger at all
46:12
i don't i don't think so man i mean no
46:14
disrespect to logan paul but he doesn't
46:16
really know too much about boxing
46:18
you know you know but um but i'm not
46:21
like just like confusing how that's
46:23
gonna play out like logan paul
46:24
weighs like 200 and some pounds what are
46:27
they going to weigh in at or what is
46:28
going to go on how much rounds is it
46:30
going to go on is this
46:31
there's still a whole lot of questions
46:32
about that fight and i thought it was
46:34
supposed to happen in february
46:35
what happened with that
46:36
[Laughter]
46:38
there wasn't enough hype behind it oh
46:41
but um
46:42
yeah matt to be honest i don't i don't
46:44
think mayweather's in any danger at all
46:46
but
46:47
it is boxing you know when you get a big
46:49
dude like that fighting against you know
46:51
a smaller guy anything could happen
46:54
so this fight that we're about to see we
46:55
chew is this gonna be another knockout
46:58
are we expecting another knockout
47:00
oh yeah definitely you know my the way i
47:02
box and the way
47:03
you know i i want my career to go you
47:05
know i got to get these knockouts and
47:06
you know i've been hurting a lot of
47:07
people and sparring and i just i feel
47:09
more
47:10
satisfied when i stop somebody or make
47:11
them quit you know i'd get more
47:13
satisfaction like that it's winning a
47:15
fight
47:15
you know by decision ronald ellis he's a
47:19
tall fighter
47:20
he's a little shorter than you but y'all
47:21
got the same reach
47:23
um he has some experience you know he's
47:26
only lost once
47:27
but you going in there to knock him out
47:30
yeah definitely i'm going in there to
47:32
impose inflict as much damage as
47:34
possible you know or not
47:36
but that's just my mindset towards every
47:38
fighter that's just the type of fighter
47:40
i am you know i i want my respect and i
47:42
want to go in there
47:43
and when i leave the fight it's more
47:46
satisfying that these people
47:47
they can't say nothing because if you go
47:49
into a decision you know
47:50
some people all you know i won a couple
47:53
rounds you know the
47:54
the judges stole my card i want when he
47:56
leaves the fight i wanted to say you
47:57
know i just couldn't [ __ ] with david
47:58
i'll be this that dude is a beast so you
48:01
know what's going to happen
48:02
hey so you have no friends in boxing
48:04
there's no friends in boxing no i'm not
48:06
really
48:06
especially my weight class no i got my
48:08
friend that i trained with you know on
48:09
my team but that's my only friend you
48:11
know everybody else is
48:12
strictly business and you know i'm
48:14
coming to knock everybody out and stop
48:15
everybody
48:16
like that he says that with no
48:18
hesitation man the way you say knock
48:20
people out is like it's second nature
48:22
for you man
48:23
jeez man um congratulations on your baby
48:26
man how how does it feel being a father
48:29
what what are the challenges it's harder
48:30
being a father or being in that ring
48:33
uh it's amazing man honestly i don't
48:35
have enough
48:36
enough experience as a father to say
48:38
yeah but um
48:39
it's amazing it's amazing man just just
48:41
to see my boy you know from
48:43
the first day he was born all the way up
48:45
to now you know how much he's growing
48:46
how much he's progressing how much he's
48:48
thinking you know mario i already taught
48:49
him how to throw one too
48:51
you know what i mean so i feel like i'm
48:52
excited just to see where he goes and if
48:54
he takes that route and he carries
48:56
my name my legacy you know i'll be a
48:58
very proud father but whatever he wants
49:00
to do man i'm
49:01
i'm here and i'm going to give him the
49:03
best of whatever he needs you know if he
49:05
wants to go to college he wants to be a
49:06
boxer
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i'm here to you know to give him my
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wisdom and be
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the best father i could possibly be i
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love it man
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hey man i i i could talk to you all
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night i don't want to hold you though
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man but i i really appreciate you being
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a guest from bridge business man let's
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give this man a round of applause man
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thank you guys uh looking forward to the
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fight you become champ bring them belts
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back over here man so we can see them in
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briggs business too man when you get
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them
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and if you guys can send me or like an
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address you want me to send you
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something when i get back to washington
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i got all my merch and stuff i'll send
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you guys something
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okay the people want to get your merch
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and if folks who tuned in want to get
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your merch how can they get your merch
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well i'd actually stop selling it i
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don't sell it
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when i get back on it um you know
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because the cover messed everything up
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and was just slowing things down for me
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so
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when i when i decided to sell merch
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again you know i'll be posting on my
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instagram on ben of utah's 300
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but well you guys man it's going to be
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some limited stuff so you know i hope
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you guys like it
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all right well we got your info and i'll
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follow you already so i'll dm you too
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you'll be checking your dms
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uh yeah sometimes just a lot of them
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sometimes and but yeah i'll definitely
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out if you
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dm me and i'll give you guys a follow
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back i didn't know that i didn't know
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suey was following man
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come on man he's excited i'm gonna call
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my mom right now
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yo let me tell you something man we've
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been we've been talking to boxers for
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years bro like
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boxing is second nature to us you know
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what i mean and you know i don't have
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everybody up there from
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uh on this way in the morning from floyd
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to you know
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broner mickey ward you know what i mean
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like everybody
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legends been linda linux lewis we we've
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had them all antonio tarver is a friend
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you know so um we respect the sweet
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science bro
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and i think you're a tremendous boxer
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and i've told folks you like my favorite
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boxer you and terence crawford are like
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two of my favorite boxers
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and i look forward to it you gonna get
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that belt back bro
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you gonna become unified ain't nobody
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gonna stop you man i got that faith in
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you all right and i would love to see
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that canelo fight happen
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salute to you brother
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you
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