Episode 17 - Horse and Sway Discuss The Best Boxers In The Sport Right Now | BRIDGEBIZNESS
Apr 28, 2021
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big horse man i
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i want to um welcome you to bridge
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business not just
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thanks for having me hobie thanks for
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having me appreciate it
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hey man let me ask you this man horse
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when like right now
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in boxing man boxing is it just to me
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it's just spread out all
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over the place you can just see people
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trying to figure it out man you got so
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many
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platforms now you got the zone you know
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you got
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uh pbc you know you got showtime
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you know you got triller you got all of
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these different ways that people are
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viewing boxing right now man
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uh what in your opinion what platform
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right now is the zone
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the top platform for boxing right now
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who you think it is and why
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um i i you know what i think the zone
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right now
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because they put on so many pokes so
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much performances that's going on and
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plus it's a bunch of european fighters
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that you know we really don't know about
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you know as far as like from europe so
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that part of the world they have great
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fighters and they don't really don't get
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the light over here without being on you
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know
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top rank or pvc or showtime and stuff
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like that
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so i think the zone being like a more
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open
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open you know platform for boxes and
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stuff like that it really
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makes the sport even the female boxing
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you know what i mean female boxing is
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the same over there you know it's very
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they had a bunch of female boxers they
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get it in over there you know so
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i like the zone i like what they do well
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who your favorite like who right now man
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i think
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devonta davis um
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jaron ennis uh these are like some of my
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like choice boxers right now you know
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javonte because i watched him for so
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long
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and i watched his ups and downs you know
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when he didn't make weight
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or you know what i mean or he might have
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had a a tough fight
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you know um but he always prevailed he
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always came through
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to me i feel like you know um up until
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his last fight we didn't
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i didn't never saw 100 devontae
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you know and so i feel like i still
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haven't seen his full potential
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he wanted he's one of my favorite boxers
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but man we've been you know we got a
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chance to talk with jaron in this
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you know on on bridge business man that
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dude right there
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that dude right there it's a [ __ ] come
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on man you think people are scared to
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fighting
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um yeah absolutely absolutely i think
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there's a lot of boxers out there that
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they know he's they know what he can do
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they know what he's capable of doing and
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um
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they'd rather take the easy way out you
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know if you could take an easy way out
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or get paid for something
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more than fight illness you know that's
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the risk that they always say the risk
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you don't want to take that risk with
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that dude like that because he's
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fighting for
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the legacy like he's trying to be the
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great he's trying to be a nation with
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the great ones so
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when you mention a guy like that he you
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know
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people want the bag he wants the
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greatness you know what i mean so
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it's a different type of beast this
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dude's training right now he just want
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to fight
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the dude is training right now i
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guarantee you get a call right now hey
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you want to fight in july
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guarantee you can make weight you be
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ready he's always ready to go man you
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stay ready
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you got to get ready who you like right
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now like who who to you who to you who's
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like the
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premier most entertaining
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like well-rounded skilled boxer
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that you like right now like your
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personal favorite right now honestly my
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personal favorite i got it
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is is your core stevens davis
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yeah the reason i want to say because
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he's young he's marketable
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um you know there's greatness he he's
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looking for greatness also you know what
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i mean
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um he can be groomed well you know right
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now he can be like the face of boxing
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you know he's moving up in weight you
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know what i mean he's moving up in you
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know age and stuff like that he's
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starting to get into his man strength
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and all that
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so i really like shakur like i think
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that if he stay focused
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he get the right management you know as
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far as like the you know
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guidance that stay with him and stuff
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like that he's gonna be one of the great
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ones you know the dude is a
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he loves boxing you know you see the guy
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in the corner training you know he's a
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gym rat
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you know he's been in this since you
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know he's been it's been since a kid so
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i think shaquar stevens is the one that
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um he's gonna do it and devin haney
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i think that he he got it figured out i
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think devin hayney understands
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the marketplace of what the boxing
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business is
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and he understands what his value in
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boxing is and i think far as all of the
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you know the youth i think devin haney
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pretty much got it figured out for us
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yeah but they don't they don't want to
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like you know
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i saw ryan garcia you know really try to
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dismiss and dismantle devin haney's
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championship status you know he said
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honestly man
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well he got us a worthless certificate
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you know what i mean like
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like he ain't really got a title man
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like the title doesn't have any value
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i've never like only person ever heard
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say anything remotely close to that was
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floyd mayweather
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you know when he was you know when he
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said you know um he didn't want to have
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to pay the sanction fees like why am i
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paying that you know i'm the draw
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i'm boxing what am i what would i care
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about that's floyd mayweather
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you know what i mean ryan garcia is not
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floyd mayweather
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what did you think of that response i
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felt that even after
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after he won his fight right after ryan
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garcia won his fight
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against uh luke campbell it was funny
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because the first thing he said was
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come on tank davis let's get it on let's
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fight let's fight he just ran right for
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tanki immediately like you know
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and you just won just you know you you
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won like a
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elimination so you was an interim
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champion and you were supposed to fight
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devin haney he's supposed to be your
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next mandatory so you can figure out who
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the wbc champion is
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and then guess what the fighter of that
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was supposed to be able to fight tia
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female that's what i believe
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and i believe he was running around
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trying to get big fights for the money
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and he didn't want to fight what's in
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front of him is mandatory
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and he knows what's going to happen in
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his mandatory devin haney is going you
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know you're going to hurt him up
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uh-huh or hurt him you think devin haney
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don't
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hurt him up you don't think like garcia
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i mean
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he's good like i said i like i like him
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he can he can um get better but i just
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feel like he was just
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you too thirsty for tank after you see
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when he just did the leo santa cruz i
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mean
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you see tank is a he come on now i mean
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tank is a machine you see this this is a
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young man that's
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he's he's another one he hits hard why
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would you call tank out why would you
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take that risk with tank
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over devin haney because you know why
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you felt like you could make
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tankers that tank is the mr pay-per-view
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right now tank is the guy that get the
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you know you get the views up on
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pay-per-view so why not call him out
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[Music]
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hey man uh and i think garcia is a
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talented fighter
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you know very very very talented um
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you know from what i could tell from
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from you know just being a fan of the
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sport
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you know he got that that it factor you
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know what the problem is let me tell you
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something you know what the problem is
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with the sport
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damn it's hard it's like you know what
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if
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if michael jackson crowned you right
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give you a
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give put a crown in your head and go hey
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you you the next one
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that's what canelo did to him like you
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know what i mean canelo was like yo you
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know what
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you you you the next one and i think
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that once he said that you know as a kid
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what's you know come on canelo's the
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greatest one right now as far as
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mexicans
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come on now canelo crowned that dude the
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prince and he just
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you think he gasped him you think he got
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him suit
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i think he got i mean you know what he
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gave him confidence but i think that you
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know at the end of the day you start
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seeing canelo like you know he's not
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really with all this
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you know whatever whatever you know for
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the talk you know he's about to be a
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professional you see what he's doing
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with
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louise he's very focused over there
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anthony please look
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very very focused over there he's losing
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weight he looks like he's getting
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mentored
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correctly you know what he will be a
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heavyweight champion again if you get a
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chance guarantee you
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guarantee right um when i think of
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canelo man
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i want him to fight benavidez so bad
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you know david benavidez but that's not
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going to happen
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yeah i i don't think i know that billy
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joe sanders coming up
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you know i thought it was really
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interesting that um tyson fury came out
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and made a public statement
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that he feel like he's going to be at
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the fight and he's going to hold the
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belt up for billy joe sanders because
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he's going to give canelo
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a boxing lesson and you got to give gas
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to that i mean come on man
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i mean come on i mean
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they got it i mean you got to sell a
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fight you got you know that's canelo you
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know
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don't get me wrong this is canelo he's
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you know his only loss was to floyd i
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mean floyd
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is the greatest that ever you know he's
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the you know the best who ever did it
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right now so
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you took that loss but the fight that i
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want to see is
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benavidez and caleb plant because you
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know why that's a grudge match
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and i think that that's something that a
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fan of boxing you should see that and i
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think that's something that david
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benevides want
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i think that people far as in boxing
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want to see you know benavidez and
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canelo
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but i think the fight right now and to
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see that that'd be very very big is
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plant in um benavidez benefit is huh
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and plant yeah i think for the ibf i
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think that would be
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that that'd really be that'd be some
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boxing to love
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right there that'd be something i feel
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like boxing will really love
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and you get the best of both men i feel
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like that's that's what boxing needs
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right now and that fight right there
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should be
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what promoters look for right now um
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i i mean we used to always talk about
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the welterweight division because it was
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so hot
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at one point man and we know everybody
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from danny swift garcia
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you know to sean porter crawford you
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know earl spence
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jr they all been on the show um even
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pacquiao's been on the show
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you know but it feels like now
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it feel like people might might have
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just like
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politic exhausts like people just
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exhausted with the politics in the
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welterweight
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division right now it's like it's kind
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of frustrating right like you never
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we never gonna see spence junior versus
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crawford which which is everybody want
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to see
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you know it seems like everybody gonna
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avoid innis
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you know you got virgil ortiz out there
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there's a couple of guys out there you
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got virgil ortiz
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out there you got you got nss out there
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i mean
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sean porter is still a great contender
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you know
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you know for me i think that when when
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when um the wbo
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dropped the belt and gave it to um guys
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i think they should have gave it to
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to um boots if they would have gave it
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the boots now
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we have somebody that's in the mix that
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you know now you guys you want the money
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now you know you guys got something to
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gamble with
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i'm not saying you guys ain't a good
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fighter but i'm talking about the draw
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i mean people want to see champions
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fight champions that's why people want
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to see crawford fight spence because
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there's two champions fighting each
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other
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they're the best they're the best at
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this time you know what i mean so if
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sean porter was a champion like i said
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like i said if sean if sean would have
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still had the belt he would have had to
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fight crawford so no matter what
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the the best got to fight the best and i
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think that's the problem right now the
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best don't want to fight the best they
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want to get the bag
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and they you know that's what it is they
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want to get the money man there's
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nothing wrong with that they want to get
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the money
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you got to do what's best for you and
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your family yeah
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you brought up ruiz and that's that
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heavyweight division
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um deontay wilder
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who is you know friend of family you
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know friend of the show
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you know his his life his last fight was
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terrible it was a horrible it was a
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horrible experience
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it was it was even hard to watch you
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know and
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i i saw an interview with tyson fury and
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he was speaking about deontay wilder
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obviously he disdains them they don't
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like each other
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you know tyson fury feel like he was um
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you know
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disrespectful and you know all the doubt
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that he raised about the fairness of the
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fight and
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maybe he had something in his glove or
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you know
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all the rumors that were circulating
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around the fight but one thing he did
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say was i don't think anybody else in
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the heavyweight division can beat
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deontay wilder
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other than me you believe that to be
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true
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um i think i yeah i think there's other
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fighters that could be deontay wilder
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onto honestly i think there's other
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fighters that could be the ante while
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the heavyweight division
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um i like the young boy coming up right
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now jared anderson i like him
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you know he's coming up he's a hard
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hitter um
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we got another uh uh african guy he's
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hitting hard he's coming up i mean
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i mean these guys are the you know
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deontay wild is a
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a hard uh hard hitter he's not a great
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boxer he's not a great
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ring guy you know he's not a ring
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veteran like he doesn't you know he
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doesn't go off the road like he's not a
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guy that
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knows the science of boxing you know he
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goes off for strength you know no
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disrespect to
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his skill and stuff like that but he
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really goes off a
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offal of strength like if he fights
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somebody that really knows how to box
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you know like you know that really knows
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how to box they they'll put him to work
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they really put him to work real fast
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if he fought somebody that really know
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how to box yeah that really got a box
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like this you know you gotta remember
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this guy's going in there to try to
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knock you out of one punch
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boxing is you know if you could get if
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you can get over with that you know it
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works but once you know you fight a guy
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that really know how to box
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you know you're gonna have to dig and
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you know you got to pull your tricks out
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you know you have to
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set traps you have to do a whole bunch
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of things so once you fight a guy
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i know there's a bunch of dudes that
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spawn that that sparrows that's
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heavyweight that spark that could beat
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him i guarantee you this guy's that spar
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that can beat him that he spars
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you know i don't know who he spawned but
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i know that you know these guys that
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could beat him
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i believe that big baby date big baby
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miller could beat him like if he if he
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um
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if he trains if he if he trained yeah if
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he trained that
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you know i think big baby miller could
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beat him you know the beast definitely i
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think the beast
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james the beast i think the beast
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the beast would give it to him you know
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what i mean so i think the heavyweight
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division is good i mean anthony
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you know joshua he's the he's getting
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better
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mm-hmm i'll be seeing footage you know
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he's working on his boxing and i respect
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that
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you know this is a boxing you if you're
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a big man you need a jab
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work behind your jab everything go
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behind the stick if you work behind the
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stick you're going to be successful at
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look at ali
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look at you know look at great guys that
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use that that jab larry holmes
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uh-huh they work behind that stick i
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mean um
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i could keep going on for days and you
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got herms
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they use that stick man when they didn't
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know you got dumb
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you know come on um anthony and anthony
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um durrell
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you know all the dudes man they use that
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they they know how to use that jab
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tony harrison got a nice stick too
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though you know nice jab
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you know what it is about tony harrison
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he fights with his hands up
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you rarely see boxers fight with their
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hands up like you know everybody's
14:46
trying to be fancy and showboat and this
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that third
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tony harris is still he got the basics
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so that's the problem sometime when you
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stick to the basics
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it's hard to get around the basics put
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keep your hands up keep your ten
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keep your chin tucked and keep your
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hands up and he does that well he does
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that well
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he about to go back you know into the
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ring
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you know his his last fight was with
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jamel charlo who who reclaimed
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his belt does tony harrison ever get a
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rematch with jamal
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if he's a mandatory i believe if he if
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he's just mandatory but
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jamal got other things that he could you
15:23
got other guys he could fight for money
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and get that
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i mean you know this guy's a mental case
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i mean you gotta remember you gotta get
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your
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mental right you know tone someone that
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john was the worst thing this dude ever
15:33
ran into man far as like
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as a professional he probably arguing a
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couple of guys in clubs and stuff like
15:38
that but this dude was like
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calling them all types of [ __ ] right
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like right to his face you know if your
15:43
kids is in the crowd and all this [ __ ]
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you know
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whoever you're like damn damn who's this
15:47
dude that's talking to you like that you
15:48
know what i mean so
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actually that gets you to want to go in
15:52
there and [ __ ] them up
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instead of just like boxing and it make
15:55
you want to go in there and just be like
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you know what i'm gonna knock this dude
15:57
out he he threw you off your game plan
15:59
because your game plan
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supposed to be able to you know set him
16:01
up throw a few jabs or something like
16:03
that you know set him up
16:04
but you know somebody running their
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mouth you want to run in there and close
16:07
his mouth
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so tone was actually had him mentally he
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had him mentally beat so i think that
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that fight he actually worked on his
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mental so i think that right now
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charlo is mentally prepared now after
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that after that
16:19
you know what i mean after that loss
16:21
he's he mentally prepared charlo got a
16:24
fight coming up july 17th
16:26
right now i'm i'm looking at och and
16:28
barack i'm on that platforms right now
16:30
boxing bully what up what up family um i
16:33
love these guys man
16:34
these dudes are the you know they're the
16:36
truth and you can always get great
16:38
information
16:39
uh they always post a lot of you know
16:41
what's coming up jamil charlo july 17th
16:43
against
16:44
um brian costant castano um
16:48
are you familiar are you familiar with
16:49
brian
16:51
i'm not familiar with brian but guess
16:52
what i know he's a professional this is
16:54
what i'm coming from he's professional
16:56
this is a guy that could go in there and
16:57
i know that he has you know he
16:59
he's not to be slept on you know how i
17:01
feel about you know how i feel about the
17:02
underdog anyway
17:04
me and you go back and fall forward
17:05
[Laughter]
17:08
we do right i mean you know sometime
17:11
i'll be like y'all go for this dude then
17:12
i see the night of the fight i'll be
17:13
like you know what i'm starting to feel
17:15
a little different about things so
17:17
you know a lot of people got things to
17:19
prove and i always feel like
17:21
the underdog wants your life so i always
17:24
feel like the dude that's coming in
17:25
there
17:25
he went to bentley you driving the
17:27
jewelry around your neck so
17:29
i never count the underdog out man so
17:31
you know what shouts out to them
17:33
and like i said you know it should be a
17:34
great fight you know what i mean so
17:36
i don't think that nobody's putting no
17:37
bombs in there when people say bombs
17:39
i mean there's not bombs but i mean they
17:41
need to fight people that's ranked
17:43
so i hope that this guy's ranked that's
17:44
what i'm saying fight ranked contenders
17:48
what do you think about like um some of
17:50
the
17:52
like staple excuse me boxers that we
17:54
just haven't heard from like we just
17:56
haven't seen any activity from like a
17:58
keith thurman
17:59
you know what i mean like we haven't
18:00
seen any like it seemed like to me
18:02
keith thurman could naturally if he
18:04
wanted to go to super middleweight or
18:05
like uh assist me super welterweight or
18:07
light middleweight and
18:08
you know challenge like a jamel charlo
18:12
he could he can actually do that i feel
18:13
like he he hits hard enough to do that
18:15
he got this
18:16
i think he got the size to do that as
18:18
well
18:19
you know what though the popularity of
18:21
you of what you are as a boxer you have
18:23
to stay
18:24
relevant so you have to be out there you
18:26
have to start taking fights i mean
18:28
everybody want the big fight if the big
18:29
fight guys don't want to fight you you
18:31
got to fight who's next up for you know
18:32
what i mean you got to be
18:33
everybody want to be the a-list they
18:35
want to be the the co-main event i mean
18:37
don't get me wrong see you in boxing
18:39
that's the thing about boxing the mma
18:41
and the mma
18:42
you could lose and you still keep your
18:44
celebrity and you know you still could
18:46
get good fights you still could get
18:47
pay-per-view
18:48
in boxing there's dudes like jared hurd
18:52
this guy's like um like keith thurman
18:55
they got one loss
18:57
that's it one loss and you know even
18:59
guys like um
19:00
what's his name um oh man i remember the
19:04
guy from ohio man
19:05
he got one loss against mikey garcia
19:08
and i can't you know what i mean i'm
19:09
looking at these guys like where they at
19:11
man what you know where they're at
19:13
they lose their celebrity but you have
19:14
to be able to fight you just can't say
19:16
hey
19:16
i want i want um spence or i want this
19:19
guy or i'm not fighting
19:20
guess what that's ring rust for you you
19:22
got to get in there you think you want
19:23
to fight him off a champion after he was
19:25
out the ring for 24 months and 18 months
19:27
come on man
19:29
so you got to get there and show that
19:30
you know you ain't there just for the
19:31
money that you deserve to be there
19:33
that's what i'm saying i deserve to be
19:34
there right
19:36
boots tell
19:43
yo they're gonna have to they're gonna
19:44
have to they're gonna have to meet up
19:45
with them eventually though
19:47
oh like i said i'm not saying that
19:49
danny's running and stuff like that but
19:51
daddy knows that 147
19:53
is not the money's not going to be made
19:55
so danny did the right thing go up to
19:57
154
19:58
so if you move up to that you know what
20:00
you bring a whole lot more attention to
20:02
that so thurman should move up i
20:04
you know i hope he should i would love
20:06
to see thurman at 154 i mean
20:07
at least i know him and charlotte
20:09
they're definitely have a good fight
20:10
but i know it should be a good fight
20:13
what do you see in the future for jamal
20:15
trollo
20:16
you know at middleweight um
20:20
he got a fight coming up too so i think
20:22
that he got to do you know what
20:23
it is it's hard dealing with these with
20:25
these guys that that that
20:27
the business part of it because i know
20:29
that that because they're not fighting
20:31
the best you know what i mean
20:32
anybody call your name out you can't
20:34
fight everybody you know what i mean
20:35
that's one thing you can't fight
20:36
everybody i want to fight this girl
20:38
you can't fight everybody but you gotta
20:40
fight the right guy
20:41
so i don't know how they go about
20:43
picking their opponents you know i don't
20:45
know how you know
20:45
it's like how's this guy next but i hope
20:47
that this guy's your mandatory that's
20:49
how i feel if you're fighting the guy
20:50
you haven't fought in a while i hope the
20:52
guy that you're fighting is your
20:53
mandatory and nobody's ducking nobody
20:56
okay i'm asking two more questions one
20:58
is speculative
21:00
it's like a hypothetical and then the
21:02
other one it just i just want you to dig
21:04
in your wheelhouse i'm i'm gonna give
21:05
you
21:06
we're gonna talk knockouts in the second
21:08
question right
21:09
okay so to get your mind wrapped around
21:11
your favorite knockout
21:12
all right okay one of them at least and
21:15
then the first question is you brought
21:17
up canelo you talk about his one loss
21:19
against mayweather you know and that was
21:22
just really
21:23
you know that was camilo you know taking
21:25
the s.a.t getting accepted
21:27
you know to his favorite university and
21:29
getting taught by the top professor
21:31
that's what that was that was a
21:32
schooling that was a learning lesson
21:35
right and then we saw what he did with
21:37
the information he's learned like canelo
21:39
he was a great fighter already he became
21:41
a greater fighter
21:42
yeah after losing to to mayweather
21:45
and so folks always questioned
21:47
mayweather's legacy
21:49
and they questioned to me when they
21:51
questioned his legacy
21:52
not the boxing fanatics they know but
21:55
you know those on the surface you know
21:57
they don't know his first half
22:01
they just know his second half when he
22:03
got older and started becoming more
22:05
strategic and calculated on the
22:07
who he fought why he fought how he
22:09
fought right
22:10
and what motivated him we all know what
22:12
that was money team he says it in his
22:14
name right
22:15
so i saw uh recently uh canelo made a
22:18
comment that
22:20
if he was to step into the ring today he
22:23
would definitely beat
22:25
you know mayweather you know he was so
22:27
assured that yeah i would definitely win
22:29
now because of what i've learned i'm a
22:31
way better fighter which he is
22:32
a more evolved boxer which he is
22:34
everything he said was true
22:36
but he said it today he would beat
22:38
mayweather today who's to say
22:40
mayweather's years older he's in his 40s
22:42
now
22:43
he doesn't obviously train like he once
22:45
did
22:46
you know he probably don't even have the
22:47
same desire he's done everything there
22:50
is to do in boxing
22:52
so since this is a hypothetical that
22:54
we're speaking
22:55
if you put canelo now against mayweather
22:59
in his prime prime mayweather
23:03
you know i mean um
23:07
who you think come out victorious
23:11
um you know what it is is is crazy
23:14
because
23:14
mayweather was always hard to hit but i
23:17
think like you said with the knowledge
23:18
that canelo have right now
23:20
i think that the fight might be a draw i
23:22
think it'll be it'll be something like a
23:24
trilogy or something like that because
23:26
it's one of those type of fights because
23:27
floyd played chess you know what i mean
23:29
so floyd knows that because canelo's
23:31
strong you know what i mean so you got
23:32
to think about it
23:33
the way his weight went around this guy
23:34
could carry muscles this guy can really
23:36
you know throw his weight around so
23:38
i think that um you know with floyd
23:40
right now
23:42
i i think it'll be a couple of it'll be
23:43
a trilogy he'll win one he'll win one
23:46
you know i think it'll be like a trilogy
23:47
or something like that honestly
23:49
floyd in his prime and his prime yeah
23:51
because you know why
23:52
you're not gonna you're not you're not
23:55
gonna knock
23:56
you're not gonna knock floyd out right
23:57
floyd ain't gonna knock him out right
23:59
so it's gonna be a boxing match for 12
24:01
rounds you know what i mean so at the
24:03
end of the day
24:04
when it comes down to judges today
24:05
sometimes the favor you know what that
24:06
means so like i said i believe that
24:08
if if neither one of them get knocked
24:09
out they're going to become draws
24:10
because those fights
24:12
floyd's going to win around he's going
24:13
to win around floyd going around he's
24:15
going to run around
24:16
so i think that it would have been you
24:17
know it would have been great for boxing
24:19
especially today
24:20
i think that's a great um explanation
24:24
i still give it to floyd by points you
24:27
know split decision
24:28
you know i still give i still cause to
24:31
your point i think if floyd figured out
24:34
i think floyd figures him out and does
24:36
everything he
24:37
he you know he can not to get hit you
24:39
know i just think he's a superior
24:42
mind in the ring and i think that's what
24:43
it's going to boil down to it could boil
24:45
down the bronze
24:46
not necessarily the physicality as much
24:49
as it is
24:50
the mental and i think that's where
24:52
floyd edges them out
24:53
you know if floyd beat people honestly
24:55
this is this is this is this is what i
24:57
realized about boxing i've been
24:58
watching boxing for so long you got to
25:01
watch people flick
25:02
face when the pay-per-view lights come
25:05
on not just the regular lights like you
25:07
know from you notice that
25:08
when the pay-per-view lights come on man
25:11
homie they look like deer over there man
25:12
floyd start laughing
25:14
i mean everybody look at floyd and
25:16
whoever he for pacquiao
25:17
whoever he fought look at the dude's
25:20
eyes the first time they fought the
25:21
first time they fought they'd be like
25:22
it's show time
25:36
them dudes be like i never seen hd
25:39
lights like what the hell is dang never
25:41
seen it like that before so i always
25:43
feel like
25:43
floyd when you fight floyd you at the
25:46
top of [ __ ] so
25:47
mentally he already got you beat that's
25:48
what i'm saying okay
25:50
yeah i i mean i agree with it man and i
25:53
ain't gonna lie man i'm a
25:54
huge canelo fan like canelo alvarez fan
25:57
like
25:58
he too man i think that dude put boxing
26:00
on his back you know what i mean
26:02
like boxing missed floyd it was a you
26:04
know it was a void in boxing you know
26:06
even though floyd come back and do the
26:07
exhibits
26:08
exhibition fights canelo help holds up
26:11
the honor of boxing
26:12
like he's a true traditional honorable
26:15
respectable fighter you can't say
26:17
[ __ ] nothing about who he is in the ring
26:20
and you can't really say a lot about who
26:22
he is outside of the ring
26:24
they had the one discrepancy about the
26:26
the
26:27
the meat or the the cows in mexico with
26:30
the
26:30
whatever that is i mean you know like i
26:33
said we've seen this guy move around
26:34
from 147
26:35
to 200 pounds and bounce around between
26:38
there you know what i mean so and he
26:39
found
26:39
you know felt himself comfortable at
26:41
168. so
26:43
i can't see him going back down to 147.
26:45
i can't see him going back down to 154.
26:47
so those certain fights ain't going to
26:49
happen you know just like
26:50
david benavidez i can't see david
26:52
benavidez going down to 154.
26:54
so he's staying at 168 or he's staying
26:56
up to 175 and he's moving up he's not
26:58
going to go that so certain fights that
27:00
everybody want to see
27:01
don't worry the only way to fight is
27:03
going to happen
27:04
is if charlie want to move up like you
27:06
got to move up you got to come up with
27:08
the big boys that's the only way and
27:09
like i said maybe he feel like it's time
27:10
to move up too you know what i mean so
27:12
you know we see what it is and the dude
27:14
i was talking about his name was robert
27:15
easter
27:16
he was another guy he had one lost and
27:19
he lost to mikey garcia and i just felt
27:21
like he lost he just like you know he
27:23
faded into the shadows of boxing
27:25
and he still needed to be out there so
27:26
like i said a lot of those promoters out
27:28
there
27:28
and a lot of these dudes maybe they need
27:30
to start getting on this um instagram
27:31
and start coming to these platforms like
27:33
this and start putting yourself out
27:34
there saying
27:35
who you want to fight who's ducking you
27:37
you know who like
27:38
honestly it has to be that yeah
27:41
there's no way you're not ranked in the
27:42
top five and you got you
27:44
you you're not ranked in the top 10 or
27:46
top five like how you're not ranked you
27:48
have one loss
27:50
jared hurd has one loss he lost to jay
27:52
rock williams
27:54
okay no problem that's it that's what
27:57
i'm saying he never had a chance to come
27:58
back and redeem himself like where
27:59
that's at you know what i mean like
28:01
and dennis who you gotta fight you know
28:02
i would love to see jared hurt and
28:04
charlo fight
28:04
that's another dude i would love to see
28:06
fight right there
28:08
jared hurt and charlo yeah that's a
28:10
fight i would like to see that's the
28:11
fight
28:12
i like to see that fight right there
28:14
that's a good thing that's a good fight
28:15
that's a good fight horse that's a good
28:17
fight uh so here's the question right
28:20
my favorite knockout of all
28:24
time damn that's a that's a big
28:27
statement
28:28
that's a big statement i mean
28:31
i'ma stick with it i'ma stick with it my
28:33
favorite my favorite of all time i got
28:35
to tell the story behind it first though
28:38
when i was in um elementary the first
28:41
book report i ever had to write
28:44
was about muhammad ali and i read this
28:46
book the greatest
28:48
right and man i romanticized about ali
28:51
who he is
28:52
who he was the work he had done you know
28:55
um the fact that he
28:57
you know protested the draft because he
28:59
didn't believe in the reason the country
29:01
was going over there bombing
29:03
a whole foreign country that hadn't that
29:04
did nothing to the black man in america
29:06
i couldn't believe he did that
29:08
they stripped him of all his
29:10
certification you know
29:12
um and then that man in 1974
29:17
you know came back and fought
29:20
in the rumble in the jungle against
29:23
george foreman
29:24
who was a head hunter he was taking
29:26
people's heads off with one punch horse
29:29
he was taking their head he was he
29:31
lifted up joe frazier when he
29:33
punched it down like five times man i
29:35
mean he he broke free shot bad man
29:37
nobody thought ali would beat him nobody
29:40
believed he could beat him especially at
29:42
that stage in his career
29:44
and if you watch that come on boomba and
29:47
you watch that eighth round and you saw
29:48
how strategic and calculated he was
29:51
and how he he just played the role the
29:53
rope-a-dope was invented in that fight
29:55
you know what i mean
29:56
and for him to in that eighth round
30:00
man it couldn't happen any of the time
30:02
in that split moment
30:03
be able to catch george foreman at his
30:05
weakest point so much so that when he
30:08
knocked him down he couldn't pick
30:09
himself back
30:10
up and he wanted to fight tko man i
30:13
wrote a book reporter as a kid about
30:15
that horse
30:16
and that and i hey bro i use that fight
30:19
as motivation throughout my elementary
30:21
in junior high
30:22
high school years i thought i was
30:24
muhammad ali
30:25
today i could still dig into that that
30:28
knockout was so
30:29
sweet because it didn't take a whole lot
30:31
of
30:32
force a whole lot of energy he didn't
30:34
punch him hard he just punched him right
30:37
you know what i mean and precise and it
30:39
looked like poetry in motion
30:41
that was one of my favorite knockouts of
30:43
all time
30:44
what's one of yours i think my favorite
30:46
knockout is like that it's the
30:48
anniversary of the fight
30:49
so my favorite knockout at all times was
30:52
with hearns
30:53
and haggler ah for me that that because
30:56
you know what it was
30:57
hagler was bleeding coming forward you
31:00
know
31:00
you know herring was who he was standing
31:02
toe-to-toe they was exchanging and
31:05
man and you know what it was it was the
31:07
letter t once he once he laid him down
31:09
he just was like letter t
31:10
man it was over man the letter t yeah
31:13
down like a t-bone steak yo listen to
31:16
you man
31:17
party done so i thought you know after i
31:20
seen that right there that was like
31:22
you know man you know that was a fight
31:24
when you saw a dude that was in the dog
31:26
fight
31:27
and the dog that had the biggest you
31:28
know biggest bite won the fight so
31:30
you know i think that was my favorite i
31:32
mean there's so many we can go with you
31:34
know what i mean it all depends the
31:35
errors we go to if we talk about tyson
31:37
or we talk about this one that one that
31:38
one
31:39
it's so many man you know we could do
31:41
each episode we'll point out a different
31:43
knockout we like
31:44
absolutely but we're going to swag that
31:46
we got right there okay let's scratch
31:47
that off let me scratch that off
31:49
real quick man come on come on man
31:52
all right man what's the fight you
31:54
looking too looking forward to most
31:57
um the fight i'm looking forward to most
31:59
right now is
32:02
clarissa shields man clarissa shields
32:04
her mma fight you man i'm looking for
32:06
her mma fight man i want to see how
32:08
she's looking at an mma fight that she
32:09
have coming up in june man
32:10
i'm i want to see how she make the
32:12
transition to that i'm interested that's
32:14
the queen right there
32:15
clarissa shields is holding down uh
32:18
women's boxing on her shoulders
32:20
you know and salute to her and she out
32:23
here
32:24
she out here like an activist in the
32:25
spirit of muhammad ali
32:27
asking for equality for women in the
32:29
sport i could appreciate her doing that
32:31
we saw the williams sisters do that
32:33
you know in tennis we saw the usa soccer
32:36
team do that in soccer
32:38
watch once they especially when they won
32:39
that olympic gold i could go down
32:42
a list of women who have been on that
32:43
front line for equality clarissa shills
32:45
is the really
32:46
between her and laila ali you know early
32:49
on
32:50
you know uh clarissa shills have picked
32:52
up the baton and really
32:54
fighting making ground for equality for
32:56
women so salute to our sister
32:58
um i'm looking forward to may 8th uh
33:00
always like an
33:01
alvarez fight you know billy joe sanders
33:04
canelo alvarez
33:05
in that ring may 8th they trying to you
33:07
know they're going to unify these titles
33:09
horse
33:10
i'm looking for that man who who you got
33:12
i mean i'm gonna go with canelo man
33:14
i gotta go you know i can't you know i
33:16
just want to see a great fight you know
33:18
that's that's what it is i just want to
33:19
see a great outing
33:20
i mean you know go for it and you know
33:22
shout out to sanders you know
33:24
i know he's the underdog in this anyway
33:25
but you know go for it man you know what
33:27
i mean that's all you could do give it
33:28
your all man
33:29
i just want to see you all right i just
33:31
want to see a great fight that's all
33:32
you know just for the sport y'all both
33:34
champions you know it's something
33:36
you know that is something that the
33:37
sport need the sport needs to see two
33:39
champions fight you know what i mean so
33:40
i think that that's great for the sport
33:42
so
33:42
shout out to both for them man i want to
33:44
see that happen
33:46
all right man hey man shout out to you
33:47
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