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hey y'all remember the last time we saw
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each other
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and i can't recall will's at a fight man
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i was trying to get on your show
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it was at a fight honestly and i was
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talking to you but uh
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i don't know we just never kept in
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contact that was the last time he's seen
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oh okay at a boxing event
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damn i wonder which one i was thinking
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when we came to flint and it was that
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charity basketball game
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that was it might have been yeah it was
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that i played where snoop and stuff was
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yeah snoop was a coach
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yep and i and i was i was a coach horse
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you should have saw me man
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i should have suited up you know what i
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mean but but i didn't do it man let me
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start with that then man fellas how how
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is it in flint because at that time we
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did the charity game
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you know the infant you know people were
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really trying to collect water and
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supplies and resources because of what
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was going on in the pipes
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and what's it like now out there well i
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still stay in michigan i say what
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10 minutes from flint so it's the same
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uh it's not
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it's still haven't been fixed uh that's
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what people probably misinterpreting
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right now that the water
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has been fixed no it's still messed up
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we still need help
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and it's not just water it's with
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everything we just need to
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bring flint back as a whole man as a you
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know a whole state
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you know i think michigan and the whole
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entire need to
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come together and get it back because
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flint was one of the cities that
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you know that families want to move to
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and create
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and create something because of gm and
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now it's just ran
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you know they left us and forgot about
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us especially with this water incident
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it's uh it's been going on since april
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14 2014 and this
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is kind of sad that nobody that haven't
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been fixed yet
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i'm assuming um they're starting off
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with the colleges because they're
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building up flint
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excluding the north side where we grew
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up
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um it seems like they're pushing
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everyone back toward the north side
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and kind of putting or they're actually
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putting millions into the
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into the downtown area kendrick
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university
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um u of m um so they are working and
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then
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downtown finn is looking really good as
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well so they are working on it
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um so i assume that they're going to
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handle the water situation next but we
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can't be too sure
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we do need the help for sure so if
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you're still
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looking forward to helping out flint
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then by all means do that
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we definitely need that help but um in
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due time it'll all come along i'm sure
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of that
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okay i like that y'all speak out man i
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know
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like eve more recently with all the
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civil
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unrest we see in the country like i'm
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listening to you anthony and andre speak
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out
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a lot of athletes start really talking
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about you know
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social injustice and a lot of athletes
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start talking about inequalities and you
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saw a lot of folks marching with black
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lives matter
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and then you saw a lot of resistance
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from a lot of pundits that said athletes
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should shut up and dribble or
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uh be quiet and punch you know uh
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what has been your take on that andre
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did you always want to use your platform
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to to bring awareness to certain issues
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that was always my mission um
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i see myself in ali's light um and all i
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need is that platform
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um granted i didn't take opportunity of
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the platform i had at once
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before but i'm i'm doing that now my
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goal is to
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actually work with children um because
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we all know that
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by this time 37 years old they're the
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future man
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you know i see i've seen kids growing up
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you know a generation
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uh uh over us and now they're grown and
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they're
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and they're they're powerful you know
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what i'm saying it's like it's unreal
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to see how fast these kids develop and
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they grow and i want to be able to
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provide an
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outlet for them to continue to shine man
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that's exactly what flint needs
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and every other hood or black community
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that's really lacking um i just
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currently
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watched a session on youth sports
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and the price rising of youth you sports
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in the industry now
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yeah like it's crazy like they're
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bringing they're raking in
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uh a big billions of dollars over all
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yearly
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uh with youth sports but that's at the
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same time driving out
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the people with without the means you
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know so that's an issue
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right there and i want to be that guy
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that makes sure the youth
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our future who's going to lead this
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country after we're going
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uh has a way to express themselves man
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so that's my mission
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i appreciate that man you want to build
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on that or
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yeah uh definitely uh i mean i started
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the foundation
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uh because of cancer but my foundation
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is to help
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help kids in the inner city to find you
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know and find like if i
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find a cure for cancer
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uh but just just the community man i
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want to give back as much as possible
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i do turkey drives every year i donate
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to
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charities even though i have one but it
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just
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it's just helping the kids that's under
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you because
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that's who that's who the next
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generation is that's who
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is going to run the world after we're
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dead and gone so
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we definitely have to look out for them
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and and
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set up a positive mindset on what their
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future will be
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okay so talking about the kids and
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things like that
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both we all prize fighters do you have
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any advice for young prize fighters
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that's coming up
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saying you know things that y'all should
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look for things that y'all learn that
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you know maybe that y'all could use the
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platform like you said
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maybe things that they could learn from
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you guys like do you have any advice for
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these younger fighters that's coming up
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just uh just staying focused man don't
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don't never let nobody tell you you
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can't uh if they tell you you can it's
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because they couldn't
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uh so just keep pushing it and keep
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going to
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to your dream and if that guy got to do
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with boxing
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or anything in life uh you know you
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can't you can't just give
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up uh i think i i saw uh denzel
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say if you fail fail big you know what
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i'm saying that's what you want to do
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because you learn
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and you got to learn off what you feel
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doing if you don't learn it does no good
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so if you fail feel big
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and definitely man um
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so our grandfather raised up 10 to 11
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years old man
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9 and 10 actually boxing and when we got
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to that
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young adult stage it was just like okay
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it's getting close to this park where i
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can walk out of this sport quit and do
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what i want to do
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you know um so i i want i want the cats
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coming up just like my nephew right now
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a couple of a cousin in the nether you
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fight around leon lawson and darion
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lawson
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you got to really stay out the way in
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these times man because
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what is it 18 to 17 really
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to 22 23 years old
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you know everything you know and that's
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the biggest issue
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you know too much you know so um
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in truth or in turn stay out the way
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focus on your dream
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keep chasing it you knocking on the door
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all you gotta do is open it man
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this is the biggest time for
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distractions to hit
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so just make sure you stay out the way
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and stay focused on your game
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and uh and continue to grow and pretty
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soon
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you'll you'll you'll get your chance in
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the limelight love it man i love
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catching up with y'all man
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you know anthony i just saw your last
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fight you know
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what i want i i was man i haven't seen
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you
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in some dog fights man you know i'm a
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big fan of yours brother
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and i i just feel like that super
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middleweight division is so
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it's it's valuable now you know you got
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you got that
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that that guy in your division now
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canelo you know
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moneybag man um and i know that this
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fight was important for you
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how do you rate your performance how do
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you assess this past fight
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uh i honestly thought i won i thought i
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did enough
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i went in there you know this is not an
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excuse that's why i didn't say it after
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but my hand was messed up like it's
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still messed up right now
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uh i got a quarter zone shot before the
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fight
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thinking that it helped and it didn't
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but uh my hand was messed up and that's
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not an excuse on my performance i still
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thought i won a fight
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i still thought i did enough i think i
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kept controlled the fight the whole time
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uh kept the guy on his back foot and and
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dictated the pace
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uh i pushed him he punched when
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you know kind of when i punched but at
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the end of the day you know it is what
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it is i can't control
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you know the decision i i only can uh
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you know go on from here
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uh my i don't think i losers might lose
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my place in
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where i'm at because it was a draw
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but uh like i say i still i still want
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to fight i want canelo i want uh
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caleb plant i want the i want them
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champions
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uh i think i need to do it now before
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uh before i get older i'm 36 i think i'm
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one of the oldest at the top of the
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division
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so i i i need it now you know give me my
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shot
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so at this point are you fighting for
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like the uh a legacy or is it about the
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money because you was a champion before
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so is it about the money or is it about
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the you know you want a
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legacy you want to leave with like a
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solid legacy we do it for money man
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i mean you do your job for the money
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everybody do their job for the money
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it's about the money the legacy will
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come
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if it comes it's about the money i'm
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trying to support my family
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uh i i i don't know why people say
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oh it's about my legacy before money
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you're doing it for
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money like that's the only reason you're
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doing it for if they didn't pay you
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you wouldn't be doing it period you'll
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be doing something else
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i'm doing it for the money uh my legacy
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will come when it comes
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and that's the truth i mean that's just
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true
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that that's that's just being honest i
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love your honesty man
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yeah that's just being honest i mean you
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do it for the money you don't go to work
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and say oh i'm working on this computer
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for my legacy
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you're doing it for money you're doing
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it for that paycheck period point date
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and that's what floyd said we're in the
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check cashing business we ain't in on
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legacy bennett
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it's a check cashing business you agree
10:33
with that andre
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i mean so so me and my brother like
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night and day
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right yeah um but but he's absolutely
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right
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um it's it's great to do what you love
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but it's it's it's even better to get
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paid for it
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right so i look at it both ways man we
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definitely
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the that extra drive the extra hunger is
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because we get those big paychecks
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you know but we do want to build a
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legacy we do want to leave a name we do
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want to leave a mark in the sport
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so we go for it all we put it all on the
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table man whether you're making
11:06
10 000 or 10 million man in boxing
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you're putting your life on the line
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you know so you definitely want to be in
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shape and you want to
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put the work in and you're going to get
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paid for it you know what i'm saying so
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um the money is a definite for me uh my
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brother is just so blunt and so real
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just like real wrong
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you know um and he expressing himself
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you know and that makes a lot of sense
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and
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and like he said man we definitely want
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to get that paycheck but
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you definitely want to leave a mark at
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the same time and want to show that it's
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not always
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always about the money you know i mean
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of course because
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it goes both ways yeah of course because
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when you got a legacy you got a voice
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too and people will listen to you
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but at the end of the day you said am i
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doing it for the paycheck i'm doing it
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for my
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for the
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that's it like i got two i got two world
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championships
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coming off cancer nobody has done that
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before in life
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my legacy is set okay should be a hall
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of famer just off me coming back from
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cancer
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and winning two world championships
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period nobody has ever done that but
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daniel jacobs
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period yeah my legacy is that in general
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if somebody say i'm not
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the only person that needs to say i'm
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great is me okay
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i'm great that's it that's the only
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person that needs to say i'm great
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i like that nobody nobody else can tell
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me that i'm not great
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nobody i love it
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anthony andre darrell uh we got him on
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bridge business right here when i look
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at y'all i think of my brother
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i got a brother t calloway that's my
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older brother so i'm the youngest
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and i remember when we were growing up
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and we would go places we were both good
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at sports we were both fast on the track
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we both looked good you know we had a
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nice mouthpiece you know when it came to
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talking
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but he always overshadowed me you know
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what i mean
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he always overshadowed me it's just his
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personality was different than mine i
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i gave it my all i always wanted with
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you guys because
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you know people used to think you were
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twins at one point
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you know and you both fight at the same
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size is that ever an issue
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andre like uh well anthony you feel like
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it's overshadowing vice versa
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no no no they always think that i'm
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andre
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yeah yeah yeah like exactly and
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i've grown so accustomed to it like
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people walk into me and say
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congratulations on your fight or whatnot
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and i say thank you my thing is this as
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long as you're saying one of our names
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that's all i care about
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you know what i'm saying so i'll leave
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it at that man you say my name i'll i'll
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be anthony all day every day now i know
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you're talking about the dorrell
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brothers the one half of the royal
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brothers
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so that's all i care about in turn
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that's most important
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okay all right i agree agreed i want to
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take it back to flint growing up
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when you guys grew up how was it growing
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up in flint that got your grandfather to
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want to get you guys in boxing y'all was
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fighting did you have uncles and cousins
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that was around the house and stuff that
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they like
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what was y'all doing cuz y'all you know
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both of y'all dogging y'all
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so that did that that didn't stop us
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from fighting
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that's one thing we just fought each
14:10
other so much you know me my brother
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used to rumble
14:13
every day on video games or whatever it
14:16
was man but
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generally it was definitely for the
14:19
streets i personally believe that
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believe that i don't have the person a
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street personality anywhere i was always
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that kind generous kid
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you know what i'm saying growing up so
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if i never boxing i would
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be a regular employee hopefully
14:33
entrepreneur
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you know moving uh in some way um
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but um anthony for sure needed it not
14:42
because of the street light but dog
14:44
mentality he ready to fight anybody
14:46
doing i mean this boy had a fight with a
14:48
at a whole family reunion
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and we had to be like 13 or 14 years old
14:54
man this man started to fight with one
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kid
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and by the time i came back with my
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people it had to be like 12 people
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surrounding him and he got a stick
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swinging it at every last one of them
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you know what i'm saying keeping it back
15:06
so anthony had no boundaries he was just
15:07
a dog his whole life man so
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it was definitely more needed for him
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but our grandfather's purpose was to get
15:13
us out of the streets he said get out
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your head the streets is dead that was
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his thing
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and uh he found boxing thanks to
15:19
mohammed ali man and
15:20
we've been in ever since man so it kept
15:22
us out of a lot of trouble for sure
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i'm trying to think did y'all meet ollie
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yeah i was yeah
15:28
we met earlier twice
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we went to his house with a guest of
15:34
honor at his house in baron springs
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michigan
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what was that like man tell us about it
15:40
that was huge so so the first time
15:41
when it was just me and my grandfather
15:44
uh we just finished the tournament i won
15:46
and and we pulled up at his house and
15:48
i'm like ali is not going to answer the
15:49
door this is crazy you know i'm just
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sitting there and
15:52
i think like 20 minutes went by and next
15:54
thing you know you see muhammad ali
15:55
driving down
15:56
the parking lot and i'm just like oh my
15:57
god is that him and i saw
15:59
him through the window and i was like oh
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my god it's him 17 at the time i
16:03
i i mean i never smiled so hard in my
16:05
life he let us in the gate we went back
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up
16:08
and uh we sat with him you know we just
16:12
talked grenade had the yearbook showing
16:13
them all the pictures of them growing up
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my grandfather met him at 15 and 16
16:17
years old but it was friends until they
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separated
16:20
ali continued boxing my grandfather went
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off to the army but my grandfather used
16:24
to be at his house
16:25
you know sharing stories about his
16:27
mother cooking
16:28
came to prison ali came to prison to
16:30
visit my grandfather
16:32
wow yeah yeah really like and he was
16:35
introduced to the
16:36
whole family by laila ali at ali's
16:38
funeral so they were really really close
16:41
man and um the second time that's when
16:43
we were the guests of honor of this
16:44
house
16:45
after i made the olympic team and uh
16:47
that was a great experience too man but
16:49
that's one of those experiences where
16:50
i smiled from ear to ear i got tired of
16:53
smiling man it was it was really unreal
16:55
yeah what an experience but a huge
16:57
experience for us
16:59
i agree man it was uh it was it was
17:02
mind-blowing for sure mine bloom
17:04
yeah my system is exactly going to pick
17:06
words hey being from flint right
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now y'all being from flint y'all had to
17:10
go to detroit right it's crunk gym
17:12
in detroit yeah yeah so did y'all have
17:15
to walk in the crunk gym so you have two
17:17
two guys that's coming from flint
17:19
michigan that's you the dog y'all
17:20
walking in there with this attitude he
17:22
had to walk in the crunk gym i heard
17:23
that was a real serious gym you had to
17:25
really
17:25
cuss on here yeah they couldn't [ __ ]
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with us
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hey it wasn't no hype on it like yo
17:39
there's gonna be some tough dudes that
17:40
did
17:41
i mean at the end of the day we had
17:43
great competition like
17:44
it was a good sparring but uh i fought a
17:47
couple of crunk guys i ain't gonna say
17:48
no name because i mean we're good
17:50
friends but
17:51
uh i won every time man there was no you
17:54
know what they
17:55
like what was the kings of michigan man
17:57
was growing up
17:59
they couldn't [ __ ] with us man i'm
18:00
telling you they couldn't mess with it
18:02
yeah they couldn't matter
18:04
it was that detroit flint thing too
18:06
going on right
18:07
you know what the big thing though no i
18:09
mean if anything we have more problems
18:11
with the arabs i
18:12
actually fought a guy named muhammad ali
18:14
before but he was an arab so
18:16
we beat him with him arab you know like
18:18
arabic
18:19
or whatever but uh uh but um the black
18:22
cats man we was cool with all of them
18:24
man we was like family
18:26
you know but it was the arabics we had
18:27
more beef with in detroit than anything
18:29
yeah it was other than that
18:30
there was no place too you would
18:33
everybody come on man you can't say
18:35
like who was in the gym that you didn't
18:36
fight that we wouldn't know
18:38
him my
18:41
i mean brother got to understand man we
18:43
was doing wheels going to shows
18:45
everywhere we was going to shows in
18:47
florida
18:48
ohio we would drive across the country
18:50
new york everywhere
18:52
to fight people so we was just better
18:55
our competition was just better even at
18:57
a younger
18:58
age and anybody down from michigan would
19:01
stay in michigan and fight the same
19:02
people over and over again
19:04
where we can go out and get experience
19:06
from other people
19:07
and and it was over we were just better
19:10
so y'all y'all was fighting like you
19:13
know like fight club events
19:14
like unsanctioned events or whatever it
19:17
was
19:17
amateur so it would be sanctioned events
19:19
but my grandfather would
19:21
drive us man everywhere just the
19:23
fighting shows in
19:25
in saint louis and like i say new york
19:28
we'll go to
19:29
mayor and airman everywhere to think
19:32
about i drove across the country to
19:34
colorado before for my big brother
19:37
just just to fight man that's what we
19:39
want that's what he wanted us to do and
19:41
we did it
19:42
and and it's fairly easy to find out how
19:45
to
19:46
uh info on a show fight or any kind of
19:49
club fights going on
19:50
because of the internet now but back
19:52
then you didn't so
19:53
how he even found out about these shows
19:55
was unreal to me but
19:57
you know he sent us here and there man
19:59
everywhere i got 236 amateur fights man
20:01
so
20:02
that tells you a lot man he took us
20:04
everywhere to fight me was fighting
20:06
almost every weekend
20:09
hmm i read somewhere i read somewhere
20:12
that you guys don't even study tape on
20:13
your opponents
20:15
i don't it it ain't fun you know you
20:17
look at it for a second though like if
20:19
it's say we gotta meet up i'll sit down
20:22
at the beginning of the camp and i'll
20:23
watch about
20:24
i don't know five six rounds anything i
20:27
can muster
20:28
uh watching a fight but i figure out his
20:30
throwing points and i'll leave it at
20:32
that man it's really hard to watch
20:34
wow yeah i never i i watch i promise
20:37
i'll watch two or three rounds man
20:40
like because how you come out the first
20:42
three rounds and how you gonna fight
20:44
if you watch the first three rounds
20:46
that's it like you
20:47
if you ca and then if you in the shade
20:49
you in shape anyway
20:50
and then your mind said that like you
20:52
can't mess with me man like you can't
20:54
beat me
20:55
it's over like bro let's just go in
20:57
there and fight like my talent go out
21:00
yo yo whatever you got for me anyway
21:03
my question to you anthony and for both
21:05
of y'all is um
21:07
how important is your corner anthony
21:09
would you be in uh you know you get cut
21:10
a couple of times you had a couple of
21:11
head butts you got you know cut
21:13
a couple of times how important is it to
21:15
have a a real corner especially with you
21:18
a cut man like how hard is it to you
21:20
know figure out like you need a surgeon
21:21
like someone to cut your head you need
21:23
like a surgeon you need just a
21:24
you know you ain't need a regular guy
21:25
how hard is it it is very important man
21:29
the cut man i had i don't think he was
21:31
really that good
21:32
i mean he's good you know but he wasn't
21:35
for me he couldn't stop my bleeding
21:37
and that's what a cup man is for you got
21:39
one job and that's a stop bleed what's
21:40
up boss man
21:41
stop the swelling or anything and he
21:43
just couldn't do it
21:44
especially my last fight i thought i was
21:46
winning my last fight but i couldn't see
21:48
because blows constantly going in my
21:50
eyes every round
21:51
uh but you know uh it is very important
21:55
to have a
21:55
a hell of a cut man a hell of a corner
21:58
because what you can't see on the inside
22:00
they can on the outside
22:02
and they can tell you or they can fix it
22:04
and so you can go in there the next
22:06
round and get it done
22:12
i always find that fascinating like i
22:14
remember watching the old school fights
22:16
in the 70s
22:17
like when i was a kid i you know i got
22:19
to see actually i got to see muhammad
22:21
ali fight larry holmes
22:23
leon spinks you know uh i would watch
22:25
all those old school fights and see how
22:27
the cut
22:28
person was right on top of them
22:29
immediately and how things have changed
22:32
over the years
22:32
like has technology helped the corner at
22:35
all like or is it still the same methods
22:38
the stopper cut i think it's still the
22:40
same method you only can use the certain
22:42
medicine and vaseline
22:43
that's it like you can't use nothing
22:45
else there's no technology in the corner
22:48
it's just you you're man no iphones no
22:57
hey hey andre let me ask you this man i
23:00
i really had you i lost some money in
23:02
the super six because of you bro i just
23:04
want to say that
23:05
you don't owe me something
23:09
you know i'm from oakland so i had you
23:11
and andre i thought you guys were going
23:13
to be
23:13
um you know the final match
23:16
you know and i i remember watching the
23:20
abraham fight
23:22
you know and and seeing that man hit you
23:24
in the back of your head or
23:26
while you were down on your knee you
23:28
know and we talk about
23:31
being hurt you know usually we talk
23:33
about people being cut
23:34
you know but when you get then he
23:36
eventually got disqualified
23:38
and then i remember afterwards folks
23:39
thought you were over exaggerating
23:41
the injury um
23:45
what what what happened and what do you
23:47
remember from it
23:49
um getting up
23:53
i honestly don't remember much of the
23:54
fight until until i watched it but
23:58
all i know is i shut him out man i did a
24:00
one hell of a job a
24:01
great performance and even while i was
24:03
down man
24:04
and that's the thing people tend to
24:05
forget or they kind of bid on
24:07
on what he said you know uh after the
24:10
fight he was faking it or what not what
24:12
he has said
24:14
and people tend to forget like he was
24:15
one of the hardest hit men
24:17
in in in boxing that day so
24:20
um if i played out a shot that i
24:22
couldn't see that even when i was down
24:24
then
24:25
i mean [ __ ] i mean i'd be able to take
24:28
any punch he threw
24:29
standing up so all of a sudden when i
24:31
get hit on the floor
24:33
he don't hit hard no more than he didn't
24:34
hit me like it was a crazy thing in the
24:36
world but
24:36
and it was actually a very depressing
24:38
for me dealing with that because
24:40
i never got ridiculed in the sport until
24:43
that time
24:44
so it was it was a really really
24:46
difficult time for me man getting
24:48
through
24:48
i didn't know how to process that you
24:50
know i really didn't um i was young
24:52
and um i wish i had you know god just
24:55
decided to continue on
24:57
and i couldn't there was no way i could
24:59
continue in the right mind so
25:01
it was great for me to stop it but i
25:02
still wished i had just for the sake of
25:05
what i went through
25:06
verbally through you know from the from
25:08
the crowd i don't even say fans no more
25:10
man because
25:11
it's really a mob man you know they love
25:13
you one minute and the second
25:15
and the next they don't and i understand
25:17
that man that's boxing and
25:18
it's pretty much every other sport but
25:20
um
25:21
um that was a difficult time for me man
25:24
um i'm glad it's going and over with
25:26
how did you what tools did you use to
25:28
get through it because
25:29
it felt like to me after that fight it
25:32
was
25:32
it felt like a slump time for you you
25:34
know and people don't they don't let you
25:36
forget that [ __ ] you know what i mean
25:38
the love hate relationship with boxing
25:41
fans they love you today you you lose
25:43
they they don't
25:44
you then all of a sudden you trash yeah
25:47
what did you do
25:49
to help you process through that did you
25:51
meditate did you right
25:53
did you smoke weed did you what
25:56
like i said like i said i was young man
25:58
um
25:59
i i got over it you know saying there
26:01
was nothing in particular
26:03
you just get over it just like when
26:05
somebody dies or you lose the job uh
26:08
um your girlfriend leave you it's gonna
26:11
hurt for a minute
26:12
and then eventually you get over it and
26:14
it makes you tougher in turn
26:16
you know um and that was a situation
26:18
that just built a
26:19
tougher shell for me um along with many
26:23
others
26:24
in this rollercoaster of a sport that
26:25
i'm in um or i've been through
26:28
you know but uh nothing in particular
26:31
man i just finally got over i just
26:33
finally said you know what
26:34
it's not about what the crowd thinks
26:36
about what i think you know what i'm
26:37
saying about myself and
26:39
that's just how i got over it you really
26:42
um
26:43
did you really pull out the tournament
26:44
because you didn't want to fight
26:46
andre ward not at all
26:50
negative
26:53
that was something we were actually
26:55
looking forward to we had conversations
26:57
on the phone there was no problem there
26:59
me and andre ward you know um
27:02
simply playing i couldn't continue what
27:03
the doctor said whatever
27:06
put like this the the crowd knows uh
27:09
what he said more than what i did all i
27:11
was told is i can't perform
27:12
and so i didn't lift it at that man you
27:15
know i had a concussion i couldn't
27:17
continue
27:17
and that was that that was that okay so
27:20
he wasn't avoiding the fight
27:21
not at all i was actually looking
27:23
forward to fighting him somewhere down
27:24
the line i thought it would happen
27:25
my career didn't go like i wanted it to
27:28
and it never happened
27:29
you know so it it just is what it is you
27:32
know
27:32
i wish they had it for sure that was
27:34
nothing i was deaf that was
27:36
ducking or running from that's uh that's
27:38
unreal you can't call yourself a fighter
27:40
if you're willing to
27:41
if you uh if you can turn your back on a
27:43
fight you know i'm saying that's what we
27:45
do
27:46
okay hey in 2004 andre you
27:49
you had a fight against um in the
27:51
olympics you won the bronze medal you
27:53
got to fight against triple g
27:54
i thought you got a hell of a fight
27:56
against him i was like wow this was good
27:58
i wish you
27:58
used that stick a little bit more i wish
28:00
you the
28:04
with the point system like you know it's
28:05
about boxing instead of trying to knock
28:07
somebody out it's like a point system
28:10
um it's nothing to learn really when it
28:13
comes to the point system you just try
28:14
to
28:15
land as many punches as you can any way
28:17
you can when you're in the olympics you
28:19
see some
28:19
crazy methods man i've seen guys who
28:22
just kind of shadowbox in front of you
28:23
to keep you away just to
28:25
at the end pop you with a jab and then
28:27
the point to go up so
28:29
the point system sucks it it always has
28:31
and that's why it's going that's why i
28:32
was going from the last olympics we just
28:34
saw
28:35
you know because it was it was it was
28:36
trash really um
28:38
um so um it was nothing really to learn
28:41
from
28:42
like you said i could have used my stick
28:44
more um
28:46
it was a good fight you know he didn't
28:48
hit as hard as he did
28:49
professionally i didn't know he cracked
28:52
so hard i fought him twice actually we
28:53
were one and one
28:54
i beat him probably two or three months
28:56
prior
28:57
in uh in mississippi and then we fought
29:00
against olympics and
29:02
you know he got the victory over here so
29:04
much i think i won but
29:05
you know you can call out you seen it i
29:08
i appreciate your honesty because boxers
29:10
like floyd will never tell you somebody
29:12
hit him hard or if he does it'll be some
29:14
abstract fighter from early in his
29:16
career
29:18
that you you kind of don't know you go
29:20
who hit you hard
29:21
you know um uh i i want to ask you
29:23
anthony you you and david benovitas
29:26
y'all y'all had a
29:27
man that was a man what a great one that
29:29
was an awesome fight
29:31
yeah man that was a man that was an
29:34
awesome fight i think you really tested
29:36
that guy
29:36
and i think he's a tremendous he's a
29:39
tremendous fighter man and when you look
29:41
at him as a prospect now just from your
29:43
professional
29:44
opinion of the division where where does
29:46
he stand
29:47
do you think canelo is avoiding him
29:51
i think canelo avoiding a lot of people
29:53
uh no i ain't gonna say a lot of people
29:55
but enough people
29:57
i think he's avoiding benavidez yes i
29:59
think because he's so tall
30:01
he's quicker uh he can keep him at bay
30:05
uh better uh the people that canelo is
30:08
fighting
30:10
seems like they don't fight the same way
30:12
they've been fighting
30:14
uh for some odd reason i don't know i
30:16
can't tell you that
30:18
uh it seems like canelo
30:22
is carrying his power from 147
30:25
to 75 why i don't know
30:28
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30:29
that's a mystery you know uh i guess
30:33
it's the pacquiao effect
30:34
uh uh but you know i think he's avoiding
30:38
a couple fighters
30:39
uh but you know what i guess they call
30:43
him the uh
30:44
face of boxing now who knows i don't
30:46
know i wouldn't i wouldn't say he's
30:48
avoiding i wouldn't use those words i
30:50
would just say he's in a position
30:52
he's he's in so much of a position of
30:54
power
30:55
to be able to pick and choose who he
30:57
gets to fight so
30:58
that's what he's doing more than
31:00
avoiding because i don't believe canelo
31:02
was scared of any
31:03
one person you know i'm saying um he's
31:06
just in the power to pick
31:07
you know and and that's what he's doing
31:09
he's just taking he's taking advantage
31:10
of his position
31:12
and he's carrying this career that way
31:16
yeah how did that eliminator go with you
31:19
guys
31:19
so you fought kyron davis um
31:22
benavidez is supposed to fight uh ronald
31:24
ellis and then the winners of those are
31:26
supposed to be able to go fight
31:28
caliplant like how is that supposed to
31:30
go how was that eliminated
31:31
i i don't know how that's going i
31:33
wouldn't don't fight baby gonna be this
31:34
again that wasn't gonna happen
31:36
uh that was just i don't know why would
31:39
they have two eliminators
31:41
uh that was just beyond me too uh
31:44
i wanna like i say i wanna fight for a
31:45
belt man that's not
31:47
that's not something i'm looking for
31:48
david has nothing to offer me like i say
31:50
he's a great champion
31:52
he's a great fighter but he has nothing
31:54
to offer me why would i go
31:55
and fight somebody that i just fought
31:58
for nothing
31:59
when i could fight one of the champions
32:02
i'm going after a championship i'm not
32:04
going after somebody who offered me
32:05
nothing i want a championship
32:07
especially that's not my position at
32:10
this
32:10
at this at this point in my career i'm
32:13
looking for
32:15
a championship fight okay
32:18
what's your position andre that's not my
32:20
position right now
32:22
like anthony's in a great position he
32:23
has a lot of hype around his name
32:25
you know um and i'm kind of dwindling
32:28
you know i have to find my way back
32:30
and we're doing that uh quiet as caps
32:33
um but um if listen i know exactly
32:38
how to beat been the videos and that'd
32:40
be the only reason i go back down to 68
32:42
or 65 whatever it is 68 65 is 68
32:46
um yeah 63 um that'd be the only reason
32:49
i go back down to 68
32:51
if i had the opportunity to fight him
32:52
i'll honestly do exactly what my brother
32:54
was doing
32:54
up until he got cut but i know exactly
32:57
how to fight that
32:58
david would be the nvs i know his
32:59
weaknesses man
33:01
and i feel i definitely will expose it
33:02
man so if i ever had that opportunity
33:05
i'll take full advantage of that
33:07
hey hey you know and i want to and i i
33:10
don't want to
33:10
get into no slanderous conversation or
33:14
anything i'm a big fan of canelo
33:16
um i watched him move up in the ranks i
33:18
was curious about pacquiao when he first
33:21
started moving up in the ranks we had
33:22
pacquiao on the show and i even asked
33:24
him
33:24
people think you're taking some type of
33:26
supplement to carry on this strength to
33:29
different weight classes you know how
33:30
can you be as strong at 147 as you was
33:34
you know 20 pounds ago um canelo to me
33:38
is a different
33:39
thing though man that dude you know he's
33:41
been fighting he turned pro at what 15
33:43
or something like that or 16 you know
33:45
but you can't carry so you're knocking
33:47
out here
33:48
can't knock out kovalev when he's tired
33:51
but you
33:52
can and you came up from 60 or 54
33:55
like well he was always big he was
33:58
always big
33:58
i mean that all got nothing to do with
34:00
nothing pacquiao
34:02
yeah about everybody yeah mm-hmm
34:06
so don't carry up like that
34:09
regardless of who how big you are you're
34:12
still coming down you ain't knock out
34:13
triple g
34:14
but you're knocking out all these 75
34:16
pounders and 68 pounders
34:18
like come on man it just don't make no
34:20
sense to me
34:22
he probably he probably hydrated nothing
34:24
i ain't
34:25
i ain't saying he's doing nothing i'm
34:28
not saying he's doing nothing but it's
34:30
it's just odd i personally think canelo
34:34
is coming down from 200 plus man like
34:37
i'm not sure too high in two hundreds
34:39
but uh he's he's a big boy naturally you
34:42
can see it in his physique
34:43
you know so is he carrying that up with
34:46
him no i think it's already there he's
34:48
actually losing some of that power once
34:50
he loses all that weight
34:51
you know so we we see it differently
34:53
definitely i think
34:55
it's naturally freakish
35:03
yo man they got different kind of cattle
35:05
down in mexico you know what i mean
35:09
little different but you know anthony
35:11
people could say
35:13
something similar to you you got a lot
35:15
of knockouts in your career
35:16
you know and you fought with cancer and
35:19
came back as a professional boxer and
35:21
you still maintain your strength
35:23
correct i mean i i i've been at the same
35:26
way my whole career too
35:27
i moved up or moved down i've been in
35:30
the same spot
35:31
getting the same knockouts the whole
35:33
time i never moved up or moved down
35:37
back i got knocked down my first fight
35:39
back from cancer
35:41
so that'll show you i ain't taking
35:42
nothing right there if i'm getting
35:44
knocked down my first fight
35:45
and then i just wasn't myself if i was
35:48
taking some out of boost it up then
35:51
but if you look if you're a boxer making
35:53
weight always seemed like that was a
35:54
problem being a box anyway so him
35:55
bouncing around with weight like that
35:57
you know 175 168 he keep moving 154 he
36:00
could keep moving around like that
36:01
i don't understand how he could move
36:03
that weight around 54 again i would be
36:05
i would be highly highly surprised man
36:08
there's no way he can lose that kind of
36:09
weight without
36:10
losing a lot of muscle at the same time
36:12
so that wouldn't be smart and i highly
36:14
doubt he'll
36:15
ever do that again and i want to
36:19
go back to even having fought cancer
36:22
and one what what did you do how did you
36:25
change
36:26
your what did you change in your
36:27
lifestyle uh
36:29
just like when i had it i read up
36:32
on a lot of stuff uh i heard that swedes
36:36
give it
36:36
gives cancer the sugars and everything
36:39
that it needs
36:40
to keep surviving i slowed down on that
36:42
i haven't stopped
36:43
uh i don't think i can stop at all
36:45
honestly i'm a sweet guy
36:47
i i love
36:49
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36:50
but i slowed down on it and just
36:54
uh just eat eating a little bit
36:57
different
36:58
i don't eat as much uh fast food
37:02
uh because they contain it but
37:06
i mean it it it's really kind of i think
37:09
a mind thing too
37:10
you know cancer is of course
37:13
uh you got to have your medicine to get
37:15
through it i read a book
37:17
where a lady had cancer
37:21
but didn't go through chemo or radiation
37:24
she like read funny things and watch
37:26
funny stuff and stuff like that
37:28
and six months to eight months later she
37:31
went back to the doctor got tested
37:33
cancer free so i think it's like a a
37:35
mindset thing
37:37
when it comes to it you got to have a
37:38
strong mind even when you go through
37:41
chemo if you got to get
37:42
get the uh you know the chemotherapy and
37:45
stuff you got to have a strong mind and
37:47
get through it
37:47
because it was hard that was one of the
37:49
hardest things i've ever been through
37:51
you know that uh i couldn't do it again
37:54
if i had
37:55
if they told me i had cancer today i
37:56
wouldn't go through chemotherapy
37:58
i couldn't do it it's that hard wow
38:02
wow
38:09
[Music]
38:16
like that because i was in those
38:17
treatments some of those treatments with
38:19
you
38:19
and i saw the struggle man but you know
38:22
a lot of times or
38:24
for the most part you ain't got a sugar
38:25
coat as simple as this man you're the
38:27
dog like anthony's mentality is
38:29
different
38:30
you know so to make it through that his
38:32
optimism
38:33
is going to be through the roof when
38:34
he's feeling well and it's time to get
38:36
back to work so anthony
38:38
in a lot of times a lot of times she's
38:40
just right in the moment it's just like
38:41
i'm in the gym it's time to do work
38:43
when it's time to fight i'm knocking him
38:45
out he got that dog mentality he got
38:47
that dog
38:47
spirit really anthony just has that
38:49
spirit in that's why we call him the dog
38:51
like that name is
38:52
is so real to the family because that
38:54
boy is an animal
38:55
in a lot of aspects in a lot of ways man
38:57
so it's really just his mentality
39:00
that did it man you know he just knew he
39:01
could and he went through it
39:03
and he had two world championship belts
39:06
there you go
39:07
man you gotta love it man you gotta love
39:09
it come on
39:10
hey this question is for both of y'all
39:13
when you got your first big check as a
39:15
boxer
39:16
what was the first thing you brought
39:20
what else forty thousand for me that was
39:23
funny uh my big my first big time was
39:25
forty thousand
39:26
um but i would say it was my house that
39:28
was 235
39:29
235 000 house that i gave to my mother
39:33
you know she lives in it now in michigan
39:35
so i'm happy i was able to do that for
39:36
her
39:37
but i bought my house and a nice little
39:40
escalade
39:44
wait a minute no no first big big chick
39:47
so the first
39:48
chick was 40 000 so man i don't know
39:50
what i did with that you know
39:52
about your first big bag i want to talk
39:54
about your first big bag check
39:56
that's that's bag check i bought a house
39:58
in a car
39:59
too i bought a ring i married my wife
40:02
oh there you go that was the most
40:04
valuable thing you bought how big was
40:06
the check though
40:07
you did
40:22
uncle sam too yeah exactly you gotta pay
40:26
everybody
40:28
how do y'all uh from a business
40:29
perspective because
40:31
in between fights it must be hard if you
40:33
don't have a whole lot of money coming
40:34
in you gotta you gotta manage it you
40:36
gotta budget it
40:37
you know um how have y'all what methods
40:40
have worked what kind of investments
40:42
uh were you able to make or whether
40:45
so right now i just closed the deal on
40:47
some apartments i got i bought some
40:49
apartments
40:50
i got houses i got a um a marijuana
40:53
dispensary gonna go
40:54
up i got a so i got a basketball gym on
40:57
my property like i rent that out too
41:00
and then uh and they're just doing all
41:04
the way
41:06
i commentate for fox too when especially
41:09
when it was open
41:10
but that that's about it and i'm in
41:12
stocks and bonds you know i got a stock
41:14
person
41:14
you know bonds all that and money you
41:17
got
41:18
you got to have your money work for you
41:20
yeah my thing i do a lot of reading and
41:22
i do a lot of reading
41:23
and uh i had seven homes when i was in
41:26
flint
41:26
uh that i was you know missed something
41:28
good some bad
41:30
you know i ended up ultimately selling
41:31
once i made my trip out here and i
41:33
continue real estate investing here
41:35
you know um and that's definitely the
41:37
plan man and that's what i would give to
41:39
every athlete coming up because this
41:41
isn't talked about enough man
41:43
um when they go when it comes to
41:45
athletes man we're
41:47
lottery winners with a skill with an
41:49
ability with a talent
41:51
you know so we win the lottery a lot
41:53
more than just one time
41:54
you know but at the end of the day the
41:56
mentality has to be
41:57
okay so the mentality has to be what do
42:01
i do with this
42:02
money you know uh how do i grow this
42:04
money like
42:05
a lot of the times this is what baffles
42:07
me the most i don't want to
42:09
make this too long because i can talk
42:10
about this all day you know but
42:12
um the the
42:16
what baffles me most is college
42:19
graduates when you can look at an nba
42:21
player that was in college you know and
42:23
eighty percent of them still go broke or
42:25
70
42:25
still go broke at the end of their
42:26
career or on nfl players the the the
42:30
is higher and then boxers you know we
42:32
don't have to have education at all
42:34
but what we all don't know about money
42:36
is you know how to spend it
42:38
so you know how to build a relationship
42:40
with it man so that's what it has to be
42:42
about man when you get your first big
42:43
paycheck if i had a chance to rewind
42:45
time
42:46
now you talking about what i did with my
42:48
first check because i would have told
42:49
you that out the gate i would have
42:50
invested
42:51
out the gate i wouldn't spend my money
42:53
on no house no car no nothing
42:55
probably a car to get around but it'll
42:57
be very minimal
42:59
and i would invest every single dime
43:01
that i had that i could afford to invest
43:03
and and let that grow and make me more
43:05
money and live off in my investments you
43:07
know what i'm saying
43:08
that's how i would do things differently
43:09
you know i spent a lot of money
43:11
a lot of dober ultimately that's what
43:14
athletes need to start doing from this
43:16
point on man and everybody in general
43:18
when you get a big paycheck
43:19
figure out how you invest that's right
43:22
and that's the thing
43:23
like i think like at the least
43:25
especially
43:26
athletes that get a higher lump sum
43:28
should be required man
43:30
football basketball anything to take a
43:33
class
43:34
on investing your money or what to do
43:36
with your money instead of giving away
43:38
they should
43:39
it would be mandatory that you do that
43:41
because there's so many young people out
43:43
here
43:44
that don't know what to do with their
43:45
like patrick mahomes he a young boy
43:47
of course he kind of probably know what
43:49
to do or not but that's a lot of money
43:51
to get somebody
43:52
that young and you still don't got you
43:55
still like oh man i got all this money
43:57
okay here you can take this much
43:58
you can take just go do something with
44:00
it but we gotta know what we're doing
44:02
with it
44:03
to get that money back i think it's
44:06
gonna be mandatory for all athletes to
44:08
take a business class or something like
44:10
that
44:10
yeah boxers union you know what i mean
44:14
get it popping up at first yeah leave
44:16
that first
44:19
boxing is a barbaric sport just in that
44:21
aspect alone it's like
44:23
every man for himself when it comes to
44:25
the promoter against a fighter when it
44:27
comes to his fighters against the
44:28
promoters
44:29
when it comes against the managers and
44:31
everybody coaches and everybody nobody's
44:33
responsible for anybody but themselves
44:35
in boxing man and that's the biggest
44:37
thing
44:39
i think we know uh the only sport who've
44:43
been going for
44:44
this long i think we've been here before
44:46
basketball fighting
44:48
boxing has been a long time and we still
44:51
don't have a union it's it's crazy to me
44:54
i just don't understand
44:56
i don't i still don't understand it
44:59
how we don't have a union or somebody
45:01
looking out for us
45:02
somebody like we going into this ring we
45:05
can die
45:06
or we can live and come out with a
45:08
little bit of money
45:09
but if you know what i think you go to
45:11
baseball
45:12
football and football is bad too but you
45:16
go to basketball baseball and stuff
45:18
like that i mean they get money hand
45:21
over fists
45:22
that's just honest we're going in there
45:24
risking our life
45:26
to get uh we're like uh
45:29
he probably got 30 45 richard patron
45:33
i forgot his name i mean he's paralyzed
45:37
he paralyzing and probably fought for 30
45:40
40 000
45:42
man he done he can't fight again it
45:44
should be something
45:45
where fighters are protected period
45:49
yeah just really quick man because i
45:52
want you to be able to move on
45:53
um it should be a criteria when it comes
45:57
to building a union and i think this is
45:58
the
45:59
issue that boxing has man um they they
46:02
probably think you just kind of stamping
46:03
on every professional
46:05
when you say we're gonna build a union
46:07
or we you know we're gonna give
46:09
fighters insurance and the whole nine
46:11
you know um
46:12
it has to be a criteria first because
46:15
anybody can turn professional sway
46:17
you can turn professionally tomorrow and
46:19
you know like what the hell is he doing
46:21
in the ring you know so
46:22
that's the biggest issue is like you
46:23
give these benefits to every fighter
46:26
no it has to be a certain criteria we
46:27
set that as we set that
46:29
bar first and then we move on from there
46:32
but that has to be brought up like
46:34
they're not even trying so i think this
46:35
is a dead beat mission anyway you know i
46:38
think they want boxing to stay as it is
46:40
right now
46:41
you know to take advantage of the
46:43
fighters honestly that's what it is man
46:45
um but um yeah that's what happens
46:50
a certain record or a certain opposition
46:53
you face plus to see that okay you're
46:55
serious business
46:56
we get you um you know insured and
47:00
everything else that goes along with
47:02
that i like how that sound
47:05
that's something that that's something
47:07
that could take place because i think
47:08
you know boxers run boxing i mean the
47:10
boxers got to fight they got to get in
47:11
the ring that means
47:12
somebody got to be a start of something
47:14
why you know somebody
47:16
at the end of the day you need that big
47:18
name that's all the way up here like a
47:19
floyd mayweather to start it and floyd
47:34
the only one with all these promoters
47:37
and
47:39
everything and nba got one commission
47:42
they got the nfl got a commission nhl
47:46
nba like everybody got one we got
47:49
multiple all over and they they not just
47:51
gonna cancel everybody out and make one
47:54
right it's not gonna happen everybody
47:55
wanna do it everybody want their hand in
47:57
that bag
47:58
um uh man we talking with the darrell
48:01
brothers i love this i love where this
48:03
conversation
48:04
took us um i want to ask you anthony
48:07
because you seem like you you you right
48:09
now you higher in the rankings um than
48:11
andre
48:12
and you you would have probably a better
48:14
chance of one of those top fighters in
48:16
the division right now
48:17
who who do you want next
48:21
canelo or kayla plant
48:24
okay perry let me have one of them
48:29
how how possible is that how feasible
48:33
as possible i think uh
48:36
canelo he got billy joe sanders in on
48:39
cinco de mayo
48:41
so i don't think he really too much
48:43
possible right now but the next fight
48:44
could be
48:45
caleb plant i think that's very possible
48:48
okay and then andre what about you
48:51
we just wanted to move up the next step
48:54
of that ladder man that's it man i've
48:55
been out
48:56
since i had my last fight was the end of
48:58
2019.
49:00
um i had an injury a couple injuries
49:02
actually and
49:03
i've been working ever since man so
49:05
we're just looking to get back on board
49:06
i'll be in the ring really soon i'm
49:08
working as we speak i'm always in shape
49:10
so
49:11
we're seeing what's next man but uh i do
49:13
have bottle jack on my radar you know
49:15
that's one of the guys that i'm going
49:16
that's
49:16
def that's a definite name right there
49:19
that's
49:20
um um going to speak volumes
49:23
uh once i get that victory you know i'm
49:25
saying that that'll let the crowd know
49:26
that okay hear about business for real
49:29
because people have their own thoughts
49:30
on fighters you know i'm saying
49:32
after a certain amount of time has
49:33
passed and for me to show them that i'm
49:35
serious
49:36
i'll get in there with a guy like bottle
49:37
jack so bottle jack you just
49:39
interview somebody tell you about it
49:41
know that it's real
50:00
he is never he's always going to be
50:02
exciting fight he's always going to
50:04
bring the pain
50:05
you know what i'm saying so he's a he's
50:06
a pillar man you know and if i can get
50:08
past a guy like battle jackman
50:10
i know i'll be taken seriously man cause
50:11
i have a lot to prove in this game still
50:13
and
50:13
i want to be able to do that in the next
50:15
two years and be on my way
50:17
um i love it hey man before y'all go man
50:19
i want to ask you something we we always
50:21
ask
50:22
artists you know performing artists
50:23
about their top five
50:26
all right so i'm gonna ask you about
50:27
your top five boxers
50:30
in your opinion top five boxers
50:34
in my opinion when it comes to morals
50:36
when it comes to morals and just a
50:39
personality everything i'm about
50:41
laurel's personality
50:43
the heart um in and out of the ring
50:46
and just beast mode like ali is gonna be
50:48
number one because of
50:49
all aspects of life man that man is just
50:51
he's everything to me he really is man
50:53
it's our family honestly
50:55
um from that standpoint when it comes to
50:57
technicality
50:58
and the rawness i'm definitely going
51:00
floyd mayweather i i was watching him i
51:02
watched him in demarcus corner today
51:04
it was just fascinating i'm always
51:06
fascinated with that man and his
51:07
abilities
51:08
um so he's number two uh sugar ray
51:10
leonard being number three
51:12
uh marvin hagler just that dog in him
51:14
that's something i
51:16
love man i love watching the beast in
51:18
the ring marvin hagler
51:20
and uh number five [ __ ] yeah i probably
51:23
ain't thought that far
51:24
damn you know what i'm saying but i love
51:26
those four man i really do
51:28
i got ollie i got floyd i got sweet pea
51:33
there you go there you go
51:43
considering that she's done something
51:44
all the boxer has done
51:46
i think she's there i think she she's
51:48
definitely at the top
51:50
uh does she she gotta be
51:54
the [ __ ] number one she's she is she's
51:57
she's the best woman
51:58
when it comes to female 5 fighters is
52:00
the best fighter in the world
52:02
which one of the brothers sparta which
52:04
one of the ops father didn't one of the
52:05
others
52:08
i just did eight rounds with her man wow
52:11
hey brows listen man all i gotta do is
52:15
put my hands up and walk for it and when
52:16
i tell you
52:18
she still makes me fight man she heard
52:20
me with a body shot
52:21
um um the girl is just animal man you
52:25
can put that
52:26
like i'm physically stronger than her
52:28
physically bigger and i try to walk her
52:30
down and wear her out but there's
52:31
there's no such thing man the girl is a
52:33
she's a machine
52:35
she goes all day man i mean it's unreal
52:38
that girl's
52:39
tenacity and just driving the ring man
52:41
she's another person
52:42
and ironically man she just told me this
52:44
i just found this out
52:46
she hates sparring she hates it with a
52:48
pass she says she
52:49
she can't get in the same mode you know
52:51
she don't take it seriously
52:53
um so she she does minimal sparring
52:55
she's part of me
52:56
and guess who else she sparked her coach
53:06
hey right now if we could jump in each
53:08
one of your cars right now
53:09
anthony andre we jump in your car right
53:12
now what's the top five songs
53:14
right now under the top top five artists
53:16
that you have in your playlist right now
53:22
i got dmx i got jay-z
53:26
i got [ __ ]
53:30
i got john connor and i got
53:33
and i got uh and i got
53:36
a [ __ ] i gotta go with nas
53:40
man
53:50
i got respect for a lot of rappers i
53:51
don't listen a lot of rap no more
53:53
um but one guy who stays on my playlist
53:56
man uh you know i died listening to
53:58
tupac man yeah i love [ __ ] man like
54:02
too real man entirely too real he was
54:05
definitely for the hood
54:06
he was definitely for his people uh you
54:09
know i'm saying he
54:10
definitely he was trying to find a way i
54:12
believe you killed the mind
54:14
so powerful we talk about poc man at
54:17
what 25 when he died
54:19
yeah it's unreal to listen to him and
54:21
think he was 25 when he died it's like
54:23
you'll hear him at 40 and be like damn
54:26
that man was so grown you know what i'm
54:28
saying like yeah
54:29
he he he died too soon for sure too
54:32
young but that was a mind that they had
54:34
to take out
54:35
conspiracy yes that's what i believe i'm
54:37
gonna believe that take that to my grave
54:39
nobody can convince me somebody just
54:41
decided to kill him because of some
54:42
biggie beef
54:43
he died because he was too powerful man
54:45
simple as that that's my word
54:47
okay uh man i used to uh when he was in
54:50
the bay man i used to uh go to he had a
54:52
little apartment that he used to have
54:54
folks hang out at and
54:55
um i used to go over to his apartment
54:58
man
54:59
this was years before you know he passed
55:01
and years before he passed
55:03
he used to have sessions where we all be
55:06
just a bunch of dudes on the couch man
55:08
and this dude is standing up just
55:10
giving testimony to us and saying the
55:12
same things bro about empowerment
55:14
about coming together about who we are
55:16
when we're together
55:18
we were
55:23
before he died you said years before he
55:25
died i was just listening to this
55:26
machine he was 21 years old
55:29
the things that come out of his mouth at
55:31
21 years
55:32
it's unfathomable man it's not that's
55:34
not normal
55:35
yeah as simple as that man so yeah he
55:37
was very powerful man i read his whole i
55:39
read his books
55:40
you know his mother when he got on
55:41
punishment she made him write poems and
55:43
you know learn up on black leaders and
55:45
whatnot man so
55:47
he had a hard life coming up but he was
55:48
very aware he was very knowledgeable
55:50
about what was going on this earth
55:52
he put it out there you know they hide
55:54
it behind a lot of the raw [ __ ] he say
55:56
but to be told man that man had
55:59
so much knowledge you know i'm saying
56:02
about the government about
56:04
white versus black and and at this time
56:07
how old would he be today
56:08
40 some 50 something man we have a real
56:12
leader on our hands man
56:13
again that's why they had to destroy
56:15
that man but i already know man 20 years
56:17
old
56:18
he kicking [ __ ] to you that you couldn't
56:20
even imagine now like how is somebody
56:22
if you said with a 20 year old you know
56:24
that [ __ ] ain't coming out of their
56:25
mouth today
56:26
hey and it made a lot of sense
56:31
hey anthony with them top five that you
56:33
just named just now with them top people
56:34
that you just named them five people yes
56:36
name
56:36
if you fighting canelo it's a
56:38
pay-per-view event everybody's looking
56:40
out of the five what song and which one
56:43
of the artists would you have bring you
56:44
to the ring
56:45
john connor oh what song is that
56:49
man he got a lot of them i don't think
56:52
he'd get the respect that he deserved
56:54
honestly
56:54
i think he because he's not rapping
56:57
about dope
56:58
drugs and girls he's not rapping about
57:01
that he rapping out real life events
57:03
but he he speak man when he
57:06
speak man you listen mm-hmm that's just
57:09
the truth man
57:10
uh i'ma bump him for a long time
57:14
bro but jay-z
57:17
in there too i i'll bump jiggle all day
57:19
too
57:20
hey great same to you if you was walking
57:22
down who would you bring up
57:24
who
57:32
[Laughter]
57:39
too much man wow well listen man
57:42
i want to thank y'all man for even being
57:45
on
57:46
being on the show with us bridge
57:47
business and you know i got nothing both
57:49
of us with tremendous respect for you
57:51
your boxing knowledge
57:52
your legacies are already sealed you
57:54
know but i i want to see y'all in the
57:56
big dances
57:58
i want to see andre back in the big
57:59
dance and i think he's very positive
58:02
and i'm promising everybody that's
58:03
watching right now it's coming it's
58:05
going to happen i'm not worried about it
58:06
i'm staying focused i'm doing this work
58:09
i'm i'm i'm mentally and physically
58:11
there right now so
58:13
i already know it's coming no question
58:14
about it okay and anthony man i know
58:17
it's coming for you too man next time
58:18
you get in that ring
58:20
take them out early oh man i am you know
58:23
that
58:23
okay uh all right i appreciate you guys
58:26
man give it up for the derrell brothers
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