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Episode 21 - Peter Gunz | BRIDGEBIZNESS
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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good with you man oh man it's good to
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see you chad man for real
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hey man you know i know you're a boxing
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fan people don't understand that get you
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in the boxing and stuff like that man we
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got this little fight thing that we used
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to do man we used to watch boxing fights
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and stuff like that man so that's what
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this really is
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this is like a bunch of dudes just
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watching the fight man and we just
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conversating about boxing and stuff like
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that man
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and you actually that's dope and you
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actually put on a performance yourself
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man we're gonna get into that man you
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know that that right there
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hey hey you know what man that that
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right there homie man that was that was
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special to me man
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honestly i got to take my hat off to you
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because you know what it was
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after the fight it wasn't before you
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know when i first
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got into this because there was a lot of
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fights going on that day on a couple of
0:55
boxing fights and
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i didn't see your name i seen ello you
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know what i mean i've seen lamar oh
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he really boxing when i seen you you
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know i'm looking at the crowd i'm like
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there was a lot of dudes from new york
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in that crowd
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man like a lot of dudes came out you
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know what i mean when i actually seen
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you suit up and go in that ring man i
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was really
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shocked man yo
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like i was like you know what i was
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shocked but but you know what
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the purpose it was for man it was it was
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a great look and after what you said
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after the fight you said you know what
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more more dudes need to put the guns
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down and put up the gloves you know what
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i mean and i really respect
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you know where that came from you know
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because these are two you're two men
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that had some differences and man we're
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going to get into that man y'all the
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differences and y'all took it to the
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ring man
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and yeah yeah yeah definitely that you
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know that was the biggest thing for me
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with that you know
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of course he kept calling me out man i'm
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like dude you know i can say it now
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because i didn't want it to look like i
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was making excuses before the fight but
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i have a hernia tor meniscus
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[ __ ] covert caught me and i was i
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lost 12 pounds
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but he you know i didn't want to say it
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before the fight because then i make
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like i'm looking like i'm making excuses
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yeah so i went in there but he would not
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stop calling me out you know
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you going loving hip-hop we got security
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we got we got we got a stephanie gayle
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and i'm stopping it
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come on man let's get in the ring and
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figure it out you know so i was like
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oh my dog i ain't no [ __ ] boxing b
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like you know i love boxing
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but then i was like it's a little bit on
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my back my boss passed away but it was
2:24
on my bucket list my pops used to box
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but so he would never let me fight
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because he was like ah you you here for
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a different purpose but
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bro was he a pro no but you know he was
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an amateur but he loved
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my father's favorite sports box but he
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um
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he he to me i know he would have been
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smiling if he was there you know uh
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to see that happen and then i see a lot
2:47
of rappers call each other out
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never get in the ring or never square up
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so i thought [ __ ] it let's get in there
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and finish it and again
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i had just finished looking at like a
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few mothers in chicago just like yo
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crying and [ __ ] so i was like yo maybe
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you know maybe this might
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reach somebody to say you know look man
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we could square up like men like we used
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to y'all ain't got to keep running and
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go get your crew or go get your gun so
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it's something that that you know it was
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the big picture for me
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you know so people were like this oh
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they're getting the ring fighting it was
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a the big picture for me was to show you
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he could square off no matter how big
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you know he's six
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four two what thirty so i i'm sick
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i'm six feet even uh you know 195 pounds
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but i said [ __ ] let's do it and
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just to show them you know it don't
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matter how big you are whatever and
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it was fun man again thanks horse i
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appreciate that man thank you
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hey you know what i want to ask you
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though pete real talk what was it the
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bag that made you say hey let's do it
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there
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because i mean you could have been you
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could have said yo we could go fight in
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the park we can go fight you know we can
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go square off anywhere
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what made you what made you or how did
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they approach you with that platform
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because they couldn't approach you on
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some
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it wasn't free the fight was
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pay-per-view so i know that definitely
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definitely but so here's the deal so
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they cisco had signed on this
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this [ __ ] was real difficult bro i ain't
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confront cisco had signed with celebrity
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box
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to do a fight they didn't know who he
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was gonna fight he kept calling me out i
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was like i don't know then they started
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calling me like guns come on man mix it
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up with him
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i was like nah cause he had already went
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in so they wasn't talking a whole bunch
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of money up front
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they was talking about the pay-per-view
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the pay-per-view buys
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and that always makes me nervous you
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know i don't want to put nobody business
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out there but somebody fought on
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pay-per-view
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a friend of mine it was like yo when it
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come to that other half good luck
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[ __ ] got all these futures in the
4:32
world expenses we lost money so
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i didn't want to do it so the bigger
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picture for me i swear on everything i
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love was that you know we don't have one
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glove square off and do exactly what i
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said tell those kids yo y'all could
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square off cause
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i was you know i didn't know what was
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gonna happen on the back end because i
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basically
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fought for back and i got a little money
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up front but nothing nothing's
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significant so what's inside no hell no
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[Laughter]
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nowhere near man i tell you offline but
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you know one of the things yeah to be
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honest with you
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uh yeah it wasn't it wasn't the money
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that drove me to the fight it was the
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bigger picture
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and then he kept calling me out but if
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some money's gonna be made
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i you know they five percent of the
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pay-per-view will go to me
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so i was with that so we'll see man it
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takes a few days to see
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i mean a month like maybe a month for
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buybacks [ __ ] be like yo i don't want
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that [ __ ] this [ __ ] or
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kid my kid ordered it so you got to wait
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till all that stuff go down and look at
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it so
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i'm waiting for them to do the right
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thing let's see what happens of course
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they calling me for another fight
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already
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oh see there we go clap it up man there
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you go
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i've seen this i've seen it before i've
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seen it man
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that's the one thing it's all about
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commentating i'll commentate
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oh okay but see that that's you know hey
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were you scared
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not not scared in the sense of fearing
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the next man
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but you had to be nervous during the
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walk up to the ring man like that's you
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we watched that our whole lives from
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when we think of how much we look
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forward to people walking into the ring
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when we get when we come over here to
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the house we do the fight parties we get
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fired up
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when people are walking in the ring and
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folks say that's the scary i heard pat
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boxer say that's the scariest part for
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them was walking into the ring
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sway that's very true man i'm keeping a
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buck with you i i practice keeping my
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face
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mean and straightforward like the last
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thing i want [ __ ] to say let's [ __ ]
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people are scared man
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that's the last thing i wanted [ __ ] to
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say but it's hard because
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so so two things i learned that i can't
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box
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i learned that that uh the cardio and
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the training i went through showed me
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man yo i have a whole
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that was the only three rounds i
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couldn't go four i promised you that wow
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and two and it was one and a half
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minutes so no matter how much running i
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did no matter how much i
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did it was like oh [ __ ]
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if i have a whole new respect for him
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and roy told me
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everything that i'm showing you you
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won't forget when i'm lighting that
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[ __ ] thing
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you get punched in your face and it's
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exactly what happened cisco caught me
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with a straight right
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and knocked all the [ __ ] training out
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of my head
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i'm starting trying to kill that so
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so it was the worst man i started
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swinging like a girl in that
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[ __ ]
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but the thing was i have a whole it
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taught me to have like yo i have a whole
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new
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respect for these these fighters man
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holding on man that [ __ ] is
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it's it's rough man but i'm glad it's
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over because i didn't i wasn't drinking
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the smoking during training and i smoked
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cigars and drink a lot of scotch
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so i couldn't drink and i had a drink
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true story i had a drink before i went
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in the ring
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i couldn't i couldn't not but i couldn't
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sleep the night before
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the night before the fight i couldn't
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see because like you said most of those
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people from new york you see
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with my family and friends descended on
7:53
[ __ ]
7:54
the last thing i need these [ __ ]
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was that was that was that a real like
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problem did y'all have real beef or that
8:02
because i thought it was like on some
8:03
you know just get the ratings
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i mean some of it some of it was
8:09
some of it was ratings uh you know
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listen man i love the dude but the dude
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we had uh you know he would [ __ ] with
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self enriching him all the time
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and he was big and kind of like bullyish
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a little bit that's my man but whenever
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he
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whenever he got like that i was i hope
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you don't ever play with me like that
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so here's what's here's what's real that
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he did that really got me tight
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uh him and rich really wasn't getting
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along at all
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in real life like [ __ ] i'll meet you in
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front of your building i'm waiting in
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front of you
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like really they didn't [ __ ] with each
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other at all so he got on some like
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girly [ __ ] like yo since you [ __ ]
8:43
rick [ __ ] you too
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you know what i mean i'm as a man i
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don't do that
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like if you cool with a [ __ ] i ain't
8:49
cool with i know where you stand with me
8:50
it's all good you know what i mean i
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don't do the whole yo you speak to him
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they don't speak to me [ __ ] that's girl
8:55
[ __ ] so
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this [ __ ] i got two daughters in new
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orleans
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so i got booked for a booking in new
9:02
orleans for essence festival
9:04
and they was giving me 10 racks to walk
9:07
through
9:08
shake hands kiss babies then go to some
9:10
hair salon
9:12
take some pictures and [ __ ] and this was
9:13
back when i was on the show and i was
9:15
hot
9:16
so this [ __ ] knew the people that was
9:18
booking me because he had just did a
9:19
walk through with him as his people
9:21
so i already told my baby mom's in new
9:24
orleans i'm gonna throw you the money
9:25
for the walk-through
9:26
and it's a free trip for me to see the
9:27
girls this [ __ ] called and made them
9:30
cancel me
9:32
what what so i lost the money
9:36
that don't sound right pete he don't
9:38
even sound right
9:40
he was telling a great story up until
9:42
that point right horse
9:44
he had me yeah yeah what are you doing
9:48
he knew these [ __ ] so he was just like
9:50
yo you [ __ ] this [ __ ] [ __ ] are rich
9:51
and all of that
9:52
book stevie j or book what's in they
9:54
don't [ __ ] with this [ __ ] and they said
9:56
that's his man's that's his people so
9:58
that's what they did they was like i
10:00
you know i'll fake our loyalties to
10:01
[ __ ] cisco
10:03
but i didn't get it from them they never
10:04
told me why i
10:07
got some [ __ ] in new orleans that
10:08
don't [ __ ] around i say yo
10:10
tell them [ __ ] they got to come up
10:11
with half the money i already you know
10:13
i'm already in route and it's so they
10:15
went over there and squeezed it out of
10:17
them what happened
10:19
so that's that's what happened on the
10:20
show but cisco ended up writing me a
10:21
check for 10.
10:22
he gave it up he gave it to me he felt
10:25
bad he he wrote to a check for the money
10:27
he blocked
10:29
yeah but he had to give it to me on tv
10:30
though ain't that a [ __ ]
10:32
he couldn't just give it to me a problem
10:37
the only way i was getting that check
10:38
was on the reunion showing i love him
10:41
he's like y'all i want to give you this
10:42
on on the reunion show i owe it to you
10:45
wow i was like it's all good yeah cause
10:47
he felt bad but then he did some other
10:49
dumb [ __ ] so it was just one of those
10:50
things we always
10:51
get pulled apart so his crew was like yo
10:54
he think he you know you think he got it
10:56
you want it now my crew was like
10:58
let's do it so he's like they keep
11:00
breaking us up let's
11:01
let us fly for a few minutes we was
11:03
going to do exactly what you said
11:05
we was going to meet up at a playground
11:08
around the corner from set but when i
11:10
tell you that
11:11
stephanie galen took me and had me in a
11:14
bar getting [ __ ] up
11:15
just so i wouldn't go because i gotta
11:18
give it to him he kept calling and
11:20
texting where you at [ __ ] we here
11:22
bring your people i got my people with
11:24
one on five let's shoot five minutes
11:26
he was i gotta give it to him he pulled
11:28
up and they was just like guns please
11:30
man
11:31
because that's why when we got but you
11:32
know that was here's the deal we had on
11:34
head gear those gloves was
11:36
20 ounces my name yeah they look they
11:38
look like clown gloves i didn't know if
11:40
that was gonna
11:52
uppercut one time that and in normal
11:54
circumstances [ __ ] would have a problem
11:56
hey pete how how hard was it to get you
11:59
to go on love and hip hop from the
12:00
beginning like straight up and down when
12:02
they approached you with the idea or did
12:03
you approach them or they approached you
12:06
they approached me two years in a row
12:07
but i was worried about
12:09
i know how crazy my [ __ ] is and i know
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i'm not like the rest of these [ __ ] i
12:13
don't fake i'm gonna give it up
12:14
but i didn't want to take my son corey's
12:17
uh
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corey was just coming up and i felt like
12:19
if i did the show
12:21
it would take what corey's trying to do
12:23
like [ __ ] with his career because now
12:26
um people are gonna be like yo yo pops
12:28
your pops and pops
12:29
corey got caught with a gun corey's an
12:32
introvert he didn't want to shoot the
12:33
show he was doing with nick cannon
12:35
called uh son of a gun
12:37
corey is a dude that just want to rap
12:39
and go in the house he don't want no
12:41
he don't want to do no extra he ain't
12:43
going to dumb down it is what it is they
12:44
either get it they don't that's who he
12:46
is
12:46
but i still was like if i go do this
12:48
show was going but then it got to a
12:50
point where he wasn't
12:51
you know doing doing what he was going
12:53
supposed to do
12:55
and just stagnated and i still got
12:58
kids and [ __ ] to feed and and they came
13:00
they kept coming in one year
13:02
they caught me they caught me at my
13:03
lowest and i was like
13:05
yeah i'm in let's go but it was really i
13:08
was for two years i was like
13:10
you know uh nah i can't do that to corey
13:12
and sure enough
13:14
every interview corey did after that was
13:16
what's up with your pops
13:17
what's up with you you know absolutely
13:20
and i just felt like [ __ ] man and then
13:22
and also my family was catching that
13:24
work my sister would call me like me
13:26
so i didn't think about the the the the
13:29
questions people would have to ask
13:30
my friends and my family guys like nah
13:32
he's not like that
13:34
i only thought about uh getting myself
13:36
back out there and providing something
13:38
for the kids you know
13:39
but when my family had to go to work or
13:41
my daughter's in school embarrassed
13:43
girl fighting because they teasing her
13:45
your pops is the worst
13:46
i never thought about i never thought
13:48
all that fully out
13:50
so that that's just the part you know i
13:52
remember when we were all at um
13:55
the apartment in harlem and we was all
13:57
hanging out you
13:58
remember this horse and pete brought it
13:59
up you brought it up to us like
14:01
me horse rich that they wanted you to um
14:04
do it and
14:04
i remember being it i think i was um
14:08
against it in a sense because i i know
14:10
what you told me not to
14:12
yeah you told me you absolutely told me
14:14
not to i say
14:15
i got it in the rhyme suede told me not
14:18
to do this [ __ ]
14:21
uh hold on let me let me think of it
14:23
around cause i went i said to me
14:24
the rhyme was um i got a whole verse
14:26
everybody go crazy when i do it
14:29
tyra could do better true amina could do
14:31
better too
14:32
or they can go and find a better me but
14:34
i ain't trying to find a better you
14:37
buster rhymes told me not to do this
14:39
[ __ ] sway said
14:41
treat it like some movie [ __ ]
14:43
charlemagne said go and get the money
14:44
because you did it [ __ ] and you
14:46
can't go undo the [ __ ]
14:48
negro said [ __ ] who don't condone it
14:50
you're a scumbag
14:51
peter i own it not forever though
14:53
because black queens around the world
14:55
deserve better though
14:56
better husband better man [ __ ] a better
14:58
me i'll make my son become a better dad
15:00
better men is what we need not peter
15:02
guns being the creep on your tv screen
15:04
but that was a rhyme that i had because
15:06
of everybody that was telling me
15:08
because you was you told me not to do it
15:10
but you also said well you're on there
15:11
now just treat it like a movie like you
15:13
actively not
15:14
it's not for real but it got real like i
15:16
said man the [ __ ] because my [ __ ] was so
15:18
real it wasn't like
15:19
the rest of these [ __ ] get on there we
15:20
fake storylines and they get to go home
15:23
and and chill because they all just made
15:25
it up my [ __ ] what you were saying is
15:27
what was going on in real time
15:28
yeah but in real time like you don't
15:31
never see two baby mothers and your wife
15:33
and mothers and
15:34
you had the kids here on the show too so
15:36
how hard was that to get them to all
15:39
agree with well that was rough but i it
15:42
was also let's show the world that we're
15:43
going to be all right the kids are going
15:45
to be cool y'all going to be cool it
15:46
ain't going to be
15:47
animosity we can figure this out but
15:49
listen man
15:50
ah tara's family tara caught the worst
15:53
of it because
15:54
she found i was married on tv she didn't
15:56
deserve that you know like oh
15:57
i didn't so here's the thing i tell
16:00
morning them
16:02
when i do the show and i told them yeah
16:04
i got my artists we kind of messing
16:06
around whatever
16:07
but i call myself telling mona scott
16:10
something like like now that you know
16:12
that my storyline is crazy i just need
16:14
one favor
16:15
we married nobody don't know that can't
16:19
come up
16:19
i'm mad i can't say what one on right
16:22
now but off
16:23
off the screen nobody was not supposed
16:25
to know he was married there's a reason
16:26
for it
16:27
and i'm asking you on some human [ __ ]
16:30
like can we just keep that part quiet
16:32
only one that knows me and amina in this
16:34
man so amina knows i've been telling him
16:37
for two months not to mention that on
16:38
the show mona was like absolutely i'll
16:40
give you that
16:41
the first day of shooting mona goes and
16:44
whispers in the meanest ear because they
16:45
took our phones peter said [ __ ]
16:47
go ahead and tell everybody y'all matter
16:49
and amina was like that's my husband
16:51
and my [ __ ] was downhill from there but
16:54
so so
16:55
outcome is this is the outcome travis
16:58
you know father don't speak to me man
17:00
you know family style that's
17:02
these are people that love thanksgiving
17:04
dinners i'm there now it's like
17:05
you know some of her friends are like
17:07
you know so it's the embarrassment of
17:09
that
17:09
amina got some some of that too so
17:11
that's it and then
17:12
i didn't make enough money that was
17:14
life-changing no i didn't make enough
17:16
money
17:17
with my kids straight where i could go
17:19
like well look at least we got this now
17:21
y'all could go to the third it was it's
17:22
almost like what did you do it for
17:24
you know what i mean so i told people
17:26
down the road one day
17:28
people used to ask me do you regret
17:29
doing the show i said
17:31
down the road one day i'll answer that
17:33
question when i know for sure
17:34
you know you know i'm leaning i'm
17:35
leaning all the way towards i should
17:37
never
17:37
that [ __ ] especially not the way i did
17:39
it but again you know
17:41
life is life i try not to have too many
17:42
regrets i got kids the beautiful kids
17:44
out of it so i don't want to regret that
17:46
yeah man you know
17:50
listen man i don't think you would have
17:52
been in that celebrity boxing match had
17:53
you not done that show
17:56
yeah a lot of things i wouldn't be on
17:58
cheaters that wouldn't
18:04
as far as getting back into the public
18:06
eye but when i look and see like
18:08
people like tara's it's still scarred
18:11
behind yeah
18:12
amina has no regrets zero and
18:15
charlemagne
18:16
and uh envy was telling me yo you don't
18:17
feel like you're ruining her career
18:19
by putting on the show and i was like
18:21
what career would you be referring to
18:22
because she had two albums out on def
18:24
jam before i came in the picture and
18:25
nobody picked them up
18:27
she'd been trying to do our music
18:28
forever nobody was messing with her and
18:30
then she get
18:31
on the show and god gave me 2 million
18:33
followers and she's selling her music
18:34
independently i mean
18:35
i'm not saying that this is this is what
18:37
she wanted
18:39
of course she wanted to come out but
18:40
when people say you ruined her career
18:42
you didn't
18:43
what career would you be referring to
18:44
there was no career until she got on the
18:46
show
18:46
then y'all stopped feeling like you know
18:48
[ __ ] with her but when you did this
18:50
show this wasn't this wasn't something
18:51
personal where you was like yo you know
18:53
like you trying to revamp your music and
18:54
doing this this was for the kids
18:56
right when you did this show we was all
18:57
talking this was everything that you
18:58
were talking about that day was like yo
19:00
the only reason i'm doing this was for
19:01
my kids so i was trying to provide
19:04
i was getting listen i was going left my
19:06
man your horse i was on my way left
19:08
again
19:09
i mean like i went back to the block
19:11
because i left the block on a good note
19:13
so i started going back to my mans on
19:15
the block and they
19:16
you know shout out to some of my people
19:18
i want something now would just hit me
19:19
off right now you ain't doing that man
19:21
just not this ain't you you know what
19:23
you you just go do this do this
19:25
put money in my pocket but you know as a
19:27
man you ain't comfortable taking money
19:29
from nobody so then
19:31
that uh the opportunity came back and i
19:34
was like man [ __ ] i gotta i gotta
19:35
provide for my kids
19:37
can't go to jail you know what i mean i
19:39
know i can get on here
19:40
it's still a show like i did but i but
19:43
again you know it messed some people up
19:46
scoring some people
19:47
embarrassed people that i love you know
19:49
so that you know like i said
19:52
gift in the curse gifting the curse but
19:54
that was one of my
19:55
that was my apprehension about it
19:57
because i i know how that works like a
19:58
lot of folks don't realize
20:00
everything you say ain't going to just
20:02
impact you in fact you already geared
20:04
your mind to take it i'm tough my
20:06
my skin is leather but it's the people
20:08
around you that catch it
20:09
and then that's when you got to weigh
20:10
out was it worth the money let me ask
20:12
you this man because
20:14
listen it's something to be said about
20:16
people who could reinvent and constantly
20:18
reinvent themselves
20:19
especially in the world that we live in
20:21
bro you've been doing this
20:22
since the 90s you grammy nominated folks
20:25
don't even realize you had a top 10
20:27
billboard hit
20:28
you know what i mean you know and all of
20:30
these things have happened and i watch
20:32
you reinvent yourself and that's what i
20:34
credit it too people are to find their
20:36
way they lanes
20:37
to reinvent themselves rappers are
20:39
becoming interviewers now
20:41
you know what i mean uh brock
20:43
journalists are becoming
20:44
hosts you know right comedy shows the tv
20:47
show
20:48
everybody's reinventing themselves but
20:50
i'm curious
20:51
you've been around two of the most
20:53
successful black moguls
20:55
we've ever known you know uh that's come
20:58
out of our culture
20:59
shaq is probably one of the most
21:00
brilliant people biggest geniuses when
21:02
it comes to marketing
21:03
um nick cannon same way brilliant nick
21:06
got you know
21:07
a thousand platforms and nobody's done
21:09
what he's quite done
21:11
did these dudes ever like did shaq ever
21:13
you know
21:14
sit down and talk to you about how he
21:16
does his business or nick talk to you
21:18
about how he does his business
21:20
where you can adapt some of that and
21:21
apply it to your business you ever had
21:23
those kind of real conversations with
21:24
them
21:24
not not really man it was a there was a
21:28
time
21:30
there was a period with shaq and i not
21:32
not
21:33
not wasn't friends but we weren't like
21:35
we used to be
21:36
he was just out doing this thing and at
21:38
that time he was like a million people
21:41
asking him for stuff
21:42
and one person in particular that was in
21:44
the family close
21:46
had did something real [ __ ] up to him
21:48
and he kind of like shut down
21:50
on the team like you know i love y'all
21:52
but pull back it was it was
21:55
terrible like some you know so he had
21:57
fell back
21:58
but then we got real tight again and i
22:01
would do things like
22:02
listen man this is what certain people
22:06
are
22:07
shack phone ring ninety percent of the
22:10
time somebody asking for something
22:12
while i was able to keep him on the
22:14
phone or get shaq on the phone anytime i
22:16
want and while we still tight i'm going
22:18
on the road with shaq for a few
22:19
for a week next week but the reason why
22:22
we so tight is because
22:24
because i never asked him for [ __ ] man
22:26
you know so he know when i'm asking
22:28
peter
22:28
when peter's calling the phone i can
22:30
answer for peter because it's going to
22:31
be some music [ __ ] or yo
22:32
whatever or if i did it was like to
22:34
bring something to the table
22:36
but one time i told shaq i wanted to be
22:39
the old man
22:40
for icy hot just for men viagra
22:43
it's a new old man and the new old man
22:46
is dressing hip-hop
22:47
yeah so when they show black men on on
22:49
see on these commercials we didn't
22:51
suit gray hair suits like you know old
22:54
school teeth no
22:55
this is the new old man right here it's
22:56
the new 50 right there
22:58
right i need i need to be that so he
23:00
said yo i'm shooting the icy hot
23:02
commercial
23:03
and bronx pull up pull up the set i pull
23:06
up the set
23:07
he got mad chicks on the [ __ ] line
23:10
auditioning or are they part of the
23:12
commercial so we in the room
23:14
he getting his mic you know put on and
23:16
he likes to
23:17
yeah so i want to be the dude in the
23:19
park and pull ups street dude
23:21
you know then i come down i'm rubbing
23:23
ice i'm telling you my whole story
23:25
little dirty uh white guy with some
23:27
dirty shoes t-shirt on putting his mic
23:29
on shot talking freely like yo the girl
23:31
in the black
23:32
over there you bring her head and we
23:33
just talking freely so as we talk it's a
23:35
shaq's like yeah so
23:37
i've been here all day shooting and [ __ ]
23:38
i said [ __ ] i gotta be honest with you
23:40
my [ __ ]
23:41
i see hot [ __ ] don't work at all i've
23:43
been putting [ __ ] on my knee
23:45
my back forever he said you might want
23:47
to tell the ceo owner that's putting my
23:49
mic on
23:50
the [ __ ] the owner the little the
23:52
little the white dude with the dirty
23:53
dirty
23:54
shoes ceo owner of icy hot he said yo i
23:57
stand by my product
23:59
you want a job with me after the two
24:02
tests
24:05
yo shaq was like yo my [ __ ] did you
24:07
just tell the owner of icy hot that [ __ ]
24:09
don't work
24:10
yo yo sway i wanted to climb under the
24:12
table man
24:13
oh and dude gave me his personal number
24:16
and said i'ma send you a box with his
24:18
internet and call me whenever you can
24:19
never answer the phone
24:22
[Laughter]
24:24
okay so that's one of the business
24:26
things that i [ __ ] up with
24:28
but yeah shaq is dj edm and i'm going on
24:30
the road for a few days next week oh man
24:32
tell my brother hey man
24:34
tell that man i love him you know i will
24:36
man i'm gonna call you with him man
24:38
yeah please do man that dude is awesome
24:40
man he i i love the way he transitioned
24:42
that's what and that's
24:43
that's what bridge business is about
24:44
it's not just talking about your drama
24:46
but
24:46
it's talking about your tactics and i
24:49
recognize something in your tactics that
24:51
i don't think everybody is seeing they
24:52
just you know they gravitating towards
24:54
the drama
24:55
and all the exploitation that a tv show
24:58
can bring
24:58
all that stuff is edited but they don't
25:00
know the person person but not many
25:02
people could say
25:03
when did gun runners come out when did
25:04
when did your first stuff come out
25:07
oh man y'all go further back than that
25:09
but i don't want no i don't want [ __ ]
25:11
digging up my oh
25:20
so look how many ways you know that's
25:22
when i came
25:23
in radio look how many ways you've had
25:25
you've reinvented yourself
25:27
that's how in business folks stay
25:30
relevant you stay current you stay
25:31
present
25:32
and so we're talking about peter guns in
25:34
2021
25:35
we just went back 30 years um you know
25:38
what i wrote my first rhyme in 1981.
25:41
wow i was in a group in 1981
25:46
called the little cc four he was the
25:48
little code crush brothers
25:50
so yeah 81 i wrote my first rap already
25:53
i'm from the bronx that's why
25:54
people the cold crest lived on my block
25:57
i i love easy ad and grand master cass
25:59
that's why i named my son cass but
26:01
i was rhyming for years i've been
26:03
through mad groups posse deep we was
26:05
dancing with the flat tires
26:06
whatever was hot i was doing it how'd
26:09
y'all hook up with who
26:10
how'd you hook up wait did cass of the
26:13
cash approve that name
26:14
little cece no no no no
26:18
he didn't disapprove he just didn't it
26:20
didn't matter back then it didn't even
26:21
matter he just knew me out a lot
26:23
i was just thinking like yo shorty go to
26:25
store i need you know i was
26:26
whatever cash man that was i idolized
26:28
cash mm-hmm
26:30
at that time though what did you see
26:31
what was the dream at that time when you
26:33
was in that group like did you
26:35
what did you see happen in the next five
26:36
or 10 to twenty years
26:38
did you even see that you know what nah
26:40
man all i knew was i wasn't
26:42
i was still trying to find myself uh
26:45
because for years either i was for years
26:48
as rapping
26:49
i always followed my favorite person i
26:51
was trying to
26:52
the cold crusher at first then i was
26:54
trying to then let's go forward then i'm
26:57
wearing dmc and i'm gonna come out but
26:58
ll cool j with somebody that people used
27:01
to be like pete you gotta find yourself
27:02
man you still
27:03
because as a light skinned [ __ ] to see
27:06
a high school [ __ ] get the respect he
27:08
got
27:08
in the street and the respect on the mic
27:11
he was my idol
27:12
i was like [ __ ] don't want no smoke
27:14
with him in the street or or
27:15
and the girl's like so him big daddy
27:19
kane
27:19
was a you know uh careless one these are
27:22
people that are idolized so i used to
27:24
mimic them too much so when i would play
27:26
my original stuff for people they'd be
27:27
like you sound like too much like hell
27:29
guns
27:30
are pete now i wasn't guns i was pete
27:32
lover
27:36
so it took me a minute to find myself
27:38
but once i found myself that was it
27:40
but i always mimic what was what was
27:42
going on was hot
27:44
up until deja vu when i went in the
27:46
booth this is a true story
27:48
nobody i never said this to nobody when
27:49
i went in the booth delayed my first
27:51
deja vu i was trying to sound like mason
27:54
the locks
27:54
wow really no it did have that kind of
27:58
style
27:59
that even that horse and carriage camera
28:01
style that [ __ ] was
28:02
dave [ __ ] was on fire and i said i'm
28:05
gonna keep it straight but i gotta have
28:06
a cadence and i went in there and i'm
28:09
and uh when i came out the booth [ __ ]
28:11
never forgot
28:12
they was like yo that you you went
28:13
different on that one i said yeah i
28:15
mastered it
28:16
because it's my exact words that's right
28:21
yeah oh hey did you ever have any
28:24
battles back then pete
28:25
you know we all got battle stories
28:29
you ready for this [ __ ] here's the
28:32
funniest
28:33
[ __ ] battle story i'm gonna tell you
28:34
i swear to god it's the truth
28:37
um we the gun runners got a show at
28:40
hunter college
28:41
at this time we love smoking [ __ ] on
28:43
them battling was
28:44
we live for that and some dude on the
28:47
block kept saying nice this [ __ ] out of
28:49
yonkers gonna smoke all y'all [ __ ] at
28:51
one time he's like telling [ __ ] to come
28:52
to hunter college
28:53
[ __ ] show up trench coat ball head
28:57
bunch of [ __ ] behind them
28:58
we got our [ __ ] behind them it's dmx
29:04
so i said me let me get some so i hit i
29:07
rhyme against the [ __ ] he do his battle
29:10
rap whole team knows rhymes they backing
29:12
them
29:12
tariq wants some tariq come get some
29:14
boogie daddy come get some another [ __ ]
29:16
so
29:17
we all going one by one on the [ __ ]
29:20
fast forward we all get the cover of uh
29:23
we all get the cover of source magazine
29:26
1998 all of us
29:28
so khalido is interviewing each one of
29:31
us about
29:32
one another and what we feel about them
29:34
so they asked us who did we want to
29:35
speak on i said big pun
29:37
that's my brother we all from the bronx
29:38
it was like ah we're mixing it up
29:41
how y'all feel about dmx i said oh man
29:43
dmx is dope you change the [ __ ]
29:45
culture you got [ __ ] saying yo i'm
29:46
gonna get shitty and grimey again
29:48
he's changing the game so we do our
29:51
interview
29:51
fly to detroit we got a show carlito
29:54
call say yo because i'm from the bronx
29:55
you from the bronx my [ __ ] i can't let
29:57
you go out like that
29:58
dmx say i smoked seven of them [ __ ] at
30:01
one time
30:02
when they asked them them [ __ ] them
30:04
[ __ ] is trash
30:05
i ate seven of [ __ ] that one time man
30:08
i do it again
30:09
so he talked wild [ __ ] after we picked
30:11
him up
30:14
so kalito like yo you want to recant
30:16
your statement on x
30:19
and i was like yo this [ __ ] is crazy so
30:22
then i get a call that
30:23
dmx got a show in in uh and
30:26
booms nyc in the south bronx literally
30:29
two blocks from where i grew up at
30:32
wow i sent all my [ __ ] over there
30:38
so they get over there my man x called
30:39
me put he put
30:41
dmx on the phone x was like yo guns when
30:43
i catch that [ __ ] carlito
30:45
he fooled i would never say that about
30:47
you man [ __ ] with you and lord all day
30:49
every day
30:49
all right i didn't cause i didn't
30:51
understand that bro i think you know
30:53
hung up with him carlito say your guns
30:56
just listen press play on the [ __ ] uh
30:59
recorder
31:00
he recorded the conversation
31:04
x talking all types of [ __ ] but anyway
31:07
long story short we ended up meeting up
31:09
and i'm like this thing is
31:10
crazy and that and uh after that that
31:12
was it but he became
31:13
you know we became so tight after that
31:15
man like even like
31:17
before he died we got so tight swaying
31:19
so many stories i could tell you that we
31:21
talked about and
31:22
i was supposed to meet him for his
31:23
birthday and the last time i saw him
31:26
somebody asked me to take a picture of
31:28
them and x yo
31:28
yo my man could you take this picture
31:30
you know what the [ __ ] that is
31:32
that's peter guns you don't hand him
31:33
your phone like he was so
31:35
mad that dude i was like your ex you got
31:37
a cult following dog i don't have a
31:39
problem with it
31:40
x would not let me take that picture man
31:43
he was like nah [ __ ] disrespect him
31:45
and um but yeah that was the last time i
31:47
saw him and i didn't make his birthday
31:49
party and he was mad at me
31:51
but beautiful but that's my bad that's
31:53
my best battle story because
31:55
i never looked at it that way until we
31:58
all was just thirsty to rhyme mm-hmm
32:00
but he's right he battled seven [ __ ]
32:02
he did
32:03
i gotta give him that and y'all was
32:06
trash
32:07
and he smoked y'all yeah
32:10
i ate seven of them
32:14
and i was like i never looked at it that
32:16
way until you said that because we was
32:17
just all thirsty to get to go
32:19
you know what i mean like if it would
32:20
have been like yo just let me have them
32:22
because i used to write
32:23
battle raps every day man hey speaking
32:26
of that did did you and lord tariq do a
32:28
lot of ghost writing for people back in
32:29
the days
32:31
well yeah we wrote some things that
32:32
tariq is actually who hooked me up with
32:34
shaq
32:36
oh that's how y'all met yeah well tariq
32:38
no check this [ __ ] out
32:40
i was in the gun runners tariq was in
32:42
the group called money balls place
32:43
and my sister said my my boyfriend rap
32:47
she kept pushing her boyfriend on me and
32:49
at that time i'm not hanging around a
32:50
[ __ ] that's [ __ ] my sister
32:53
nah i'm good on that yo nah yo everybody
32:57
say he's good so one day he came by the
32:58
crib
32:59
and and uh i said let me hear something
33:01
[ __ ] rhyme
33:03
his voice everything i was like this
33:04
nigga's better than all of us
33:06
so i put him in the gun runs and uh and
33:09
that's how i met tariq and tariq you
33:10
know him and my sister have been married
33:12
for years they got a 28 year old they
33:14
got a
33:15
21 year old i was the best man in their
33:17
wedding that's my brother man so
33:19
most people think y'all fell off young
33:22
family
33:22
that's family but yeah that's how i met
33:24
him and tariq had got signed first
33:27
and tariq is the epitome of a [ __ ]
33:29
getting in the door and
33:30
leaving the door open and pulling the
33:32
[ __ ] in like i'm telling y'all man like
33:34
to reap literally beg shacking him yo
33:37
bring pete out man he can write some
33:39
[ __ ] with you he gets ideas it's crazy
33:41
he's more commercial
33:42
his [ __ ] dope and finally they flew me
33:45
out and i flew out i was on
33:46
i wasn't supposed to leave i was on
33:47
probation i just came home and i was
33:49
like [ __ ] that
33:50
i got violated and locked up again from
33:52
going to orlando to work but
33:54
it's that was the change of everything
33:56
but yeah that's how i met shannon
33:58
hey so how you like how do you like to
33:59
transition from behind like
34:01
being in front of the mic and behind the
34:03
behind the scenes what's better
34:05
i missed the mic man the mic the music
34:08
and all that is
34:09
with you know i'm a musician first i was
34:11
i was a drummer
34:13
before i was even rhyming i was already
34:15
playing instruments and writing songs
34:16
before rap
34:17
as a kid so but now i'm i'm this music
34:20
part of it and when i'm producing
34:22
artists or listening even with my son
34:25
i'm like thirsty to rap that's why i
34:27
manage nobody i'm still in artist mode
34:29
because people that manage me i can't
34:31
that's real cause i'm you know i'm still
34:33
in artist mode and then i don't i don't
34:34
take
34:34
two kind of [ __ ] telling me
34:36
something's whack i used to have a
34:37
problem with corey that's why i'm in
34:38
manage court
34:39
because when i teach to take meetings
34:40
i'll take the person oh
34:42
if they said they didn't like a song or
34:44
something or oh yeah man we don't see
34:46
the vision
34:47
you know yeah i went through that at
34:49
depth jam them [ __ ] don't know how
34:50
many times this close
34:52
i started oh it was bad send [ __ ] up
34:55
there like yo these [ __ ]
34:56
don't get it you know but jay-z i sat
34:58
down with jay one time and he was like
35:00
yo he's just ahead of his time
35:01
nobody's going to believe nothing he's
35:03
saying nobody's going to accept that he
35:05
is
35:05
weird he's so far ahead of his time i
35:08
think if you just sit a little while and
35:10
you know guns you know what it is you
35:11
know you know i was just like can we get
35:13
a drop but jay-z dropped he said
35:14
we ain't ready for jay-z cause i'm not
35:17
ready for him to fly
35:18
he ready his voice ain't ready his age
35:21
he's ahead of his time he's not
35:23
he ain't gonna appeal to the kids
35:24
because he's too advanced and he's too
35:27
he's too uh young for other people
35:29
adults to accept
35:30
so just let him sit on him for a minute
35:32
and i'll say how about just let us go
35:34
you leaving because he was leaving def
35:35
jam so me and him matt and ciela
35:38
and he said you show us what you want
35:40
guns it's cold out there and he was
35:41
right because
35:42
he was telling me to stay put he's
35:45
leaving but stay put you still got your
35:46
deal i said nah just give us the money
35:48
the rest of the budget and let's give us
35:50
a free slate because in my mind
35:52
we was going to walk out of depth gym
35:53
into a new deal easy
35:55
because he was on fire didn't happen
35:58
and jay told you that he when he said
36:00
it's cold out there [ __ ] said [ __ ]
36:01
guns it's called you sure
36:03
we met in the club because he was in the
36:05
office
36:06
and i'll never forget he said i don't
36:07
want to keep talking to you from across
36:09
the desk like this [ __ ] come sit over
36:11
here let's talk man the man cause it was
36:12
like
36:13
weird man he was the president of the
36:14
label he said i'll tell you what meet me
36:16
at cielo and me packing tonight let's
36:18
have a real talk
36:19
because i guess he wasn't comfortable
36:20
talking me and we talked about a lot of
36:23
[ __ ] besides corey man we talk about
36:25
how [ __ ] expect [ __ ] from now he's
36:27
president he's like i hate this job
36:29
talk about uh bill clinton and [ __ ] i
36:32
was asking
36:32
wow [ __ ] but when we met at cielo that's
36:35
when he was like
36:36
you could walk with you could walk with
36:38
your music and you can walk with the
36:39
money
36:40
but it's cold out there guns i don't
36:42
know if you want to take your son out
36:43
that building right now man it's cold
36:45
out there he was right
36:46
we went to maybe another two years
36:48
before corey had another deal
36:50
wow damn all right and that was the
36:52
wayne deal
36:53
yeah that was the wayne deal what what's
36:55
the status of the wayne deal now
36:58
he's still with young money man you know
37:01
swear
37:02
damn i catch a lot of [ __ ] for saying
37:03
this i don't think corey even like when
37:04
i say this
37:05
but i dumb dudes uh
37:09
did what they were supposed to do for
37:10
cory man wayne came out of jail put
37:12
corey in the first thing smoking skipped
37:14
all the artists that was already signed
37:16
you next we got drake nikki you next i'm
37:18
gonna roll you out to the world with the
37:20
six foot seven foot and it's on you from
37:22
there
37:23
corey kind of like so what drake and
37:25
nikki kind of did was when they got they
37:27
stamped from him they went off and just
37:28
did their own thing before we kind of
37:30
hung with wayne in them you know i
37:32
i i don't want to blame him either but
37:34
just more of
37:35
once you get that stamp go don't don't
37:37
depend on [ __ ] no more they gave you
37:39
the cosign you got that record we were
37:41
supposed to fly i even take some blame
37:42
for it
37:43
but i always felt like corey took his uh
37:45
the training wheels off
37:47
he became that man probably at the worst
37:49
time man
37:50
like it was at a time like i got this
37:51
that you know if you go by the studio
37:54
and every [ __ ] just bopping their head
37:55
to [ __ ] and i'm like nah that ain't it
37:58
what you know like you know because he
37:59
would always go
38:01
want my opinion on his music and stuff
38:03
and i'll be like yo right
38:04
everybody going yes i'm the deaf right
38:06
now you know young money he's
38:07
hot that six foot seven was out
38:10
so but he had became a man mode at that
38:13
time it was like the worst time
38:14
of that he could have became like i got
38:17
it
38:18
i'm good pops and i was like damn you
38:20
know i regret not just
38:22
doing that but still not over he's still
38:24
there and then dude when corey got
38:26
locked up
38:27
i tell people this all the time
38:29
especially since it's black people man
38:31
uh
38:32
when corey got locked up they paid his
38:34
lawyer fees they didn't blink corey
38:35
wasn't hot
38:36
that was at a time they could have been
38:38
like dropped them like we
38:40
you know you [ __ ] it up you dropped
38:42
the ball they paid loyal fees they never
38:44
called them for nothing that they didn't
38:46
do and they still like go put out some
38:48
music make you some money you want to go
38:50
on tour come out here wayne
38:51
cory and wayne god damn their whole
38:53
album together yeah so
38:55
you i try to tell people that do you
38:58
think i could have called donnie or
38:59
tommy montola and be like hey uh
39:01
could y'all pay my lawyer fees after me
39:03
and tariq as cold as ice
39:05
man come on man y'all wouldn't have got
39:06
past that lobby security down here
39:13
i hate when a lot of people are bashed
39:14
uh you know yo they ain't doing what
39:16
they got to do and they wasn't
39:17
sometimes the label kogi all you need is
39:20
the co-sign
39:21
all you need you know jay-z signed you
39:22
to the label and did a record with you
39:24
what you wanted to walk you all the way
39:26
through goddamn things i know sometimes
39:28
you need cosign but again corey is who
39:30
he is
39:30
he's not going to buzz he's not going to
39:32
say okay corey we need you to do this
39:34
abc one two three record and then you
39:36
can fly just not gonna do it he's a
39:38
rapper's rapper man and
39:39
not because he's my son some of the [ __ ]
39:41
that he
39:42
the the cadence is the the patterns
39:46
have me i'm mind-boggling about it but i
39:48
do know i raised them and i know what i
39:50
raised them on but
39:51
he took that [ __ ] and took a little bit
39:54
of everybody [ __ ] shouldn't make a gumbo
39:55
pot and i've never heard nobody
39:58
uh that could do what he do on the mic
40:01
man i'm not saying it's because my son
40:02
is
40:03
it's not he's nice bro he's nice he's
40:05
nice
40:08
he's special man he's the kid is so
40:10
special that i'm like god damn
40:12
but again still too still too far for uh
40:15
people to get but i can put the album
40:17
out on corey from now to
40:19
3 000 every year you probably got some
40:22
unreleased joints with wayne too that's
40:24
what i'm saying is
40:25
a bunch of joints he probably got that's
40:26
unreleased too yeah yeah he's still he's
40:28
and he's still going he's still got the
40:29
same fire hungry every now and then
40:31
he'll lose his
40:34
i was at ditc studios last week and um
40:37
yeah he played me a couple songs but he
40:39
had one song called
40:41
ghetto have you heard that one feet
40:44
nah he got thousands of songs oh okay
40:47
now this one was and you always want me
40:49
to come here and stuff i didn't hear
40:50
that man man look we gonna be there
40:52
we're gonna be there next week let's go
40:54
let's meet up there
40:55
we're gonna be here next time yeah you
40:56
know it's crazy i did an interview with
40:58
primo and he told me he gave corey three
41:00
tracks
41:00
i said i need to hear those damn great i
41:03
say you got pretty much
41:04
i couldn't even get
41:12
hey pete i got a question for you man
41:14
cause you said you still you couldn't
41:16
manage your own son
41:17
because you'd be thirsting for the mic
41:18
you gotta get on that mic that's your
41:20
m.c
41:21
heart and then you and your son are like
41:23
two of the dopest you know
41:24
father-son combinations hip-hop has ever
41:26
seen you got will smith for jaden you
41:28
got ice cube in his son
41:30
you got all these different people with
41:32
t.i
41:33
and damani just put out the father-son
41:35
challenge
41:36
um i accepted did you take that
41:38
seriously
41:40
yeah oh you responded to him
41:43
yeah on my instagram i said yo we shall
41:46
we
41:47
should we invite them to the smokers
41:48
section at cory guns cory was like
41:50
absolutely
41:52
i like that so but that ain't a versus
41:55
this is like what you know with t.i
41:57
it sounds like yo we challenge anyone
42:00
come on that's what he said
42:01
that's what he said so i was in new
42:04
orleans people was coming to me a few
42:06
people came and said that
42:07
his thing is we're not on that level
42:10
like you know hit wise guns don't have
42:12
the
42:13
gun i wasn't talking to them like they
42:14
ain't on the level like you said he's
42:15
talking to will smith and
42:17
ice cube and snooping them he like peter
42:19
guns
42:20
i don't know why he's talking to him and
42:21
his son you know so i take it as
42:23
either he know what the time it is
42:27
or you know he truly was trying to do
42:29
something like
42:30
father-son popular father-son thing but
42:34
um you say father-son i i took it as you
42:39
i think i think i belong me and corey
42:40
belong in that conversation
42:43
i think it's a father-son expeditiously
42:46
like
42:47
you know damani that's my nephew t.i my
42:49
brother
42:50
you my brother you know corey my nephew
42:52
i would love
42:53
whatever they did a father-son
42:55
tournament horse what about that a
42:56
father-son emcee tournament
42:59
i would love that the attention and the
43:01
money you know it goes it's a bigger
43:02
thing we could put around it like a
43:05
a conference around it or something
43:06
where fathers and sons could come and
43:08
have conversation and build
43:10
in seminars and at nighttime the
43:12
tournament commences and his t.i and
43:14
dominion on one side
43:15
and you got peter guns and corey and
43:18
others set it up
43:18
who better set that up than you you see
43:21
you see that vision horse you like i
43:22
like that
43:23
man and listen i love tiana nobody would
43:27
ever
43:28
he got bars nobody ever said that but
43:30
definitely
43:31
i i would love to put those bars to the
43:33
test i'm with i'm with the [ __ ]
43:35
hey yeah cory yeah his son got bogged
43:39
the money got bars
43:40
my son my son got boss
43:42
[Laughter]
43:50
the number one son with bars in hip-hop
43:52
yeah yes
43:55
yep you know that's amazing right there
43:58
because you know just the fact that you
44:00
got a father and son doing this right
44:01
now and we talking about this in hip-hop
44:03
man that's amazing i
44:04
you know i just love that you know what
44:05
i mean that you can do that you know
44:07
just the fact that
44:08
you know it's rubbing off on you know
44:09
that that you know your son saw you
44:11
doing it you know what i mean he want to
44:12
take it to the next level just like t.i
44:14
son see him doing it he want to take it
44:15
to the next level
44:16
you know thinking about this is bridge
44:18
business i want to get back that
44:19
celebrity boxing is that something that
44:21
you think that we could um
44:23
foster briggs business and peter guns
44:24
maybe we can get involved in that and
44:26
start putting some of these celebrities
44:27
in that ring
44:28
and get somebody so man i think we
44:30
should i i would rather do it with us
44:33
uh you know to do it another way i would
44:35
i would definitely
44:36
look they cisco wanted to get back in
44:39
the ring again
44:41
if they if it had some validity to it if
44:43
it made sense and people were going to
44:45
watch it or people would come out and
44:46
see it again i might do that with cisco
44:48
again
44:48
he got a lot of uh complaints he said
44:51
i'm a sore loser all this stuff so i
44:53
would do it
44:53
but i would like to do it like you said
44:55
we do it
44:57
we do it i don't want to do it i don't
44:58
want to do it that way no more i just
45:00
don't know
45:00
how i don't know if you need sanctions
45:03
and all this different stuff but i would
45:04
love to oh
45:05
story i was trying to tell you was
45:07
cisco's from brooklyn
45:08
tight with zab judah cisco promised zab
45:11
judah me in his fight
45:14
so he ended up signing with the other
45:16
guys at celebrity boxing damon and him
45:18
and zab
45:19
was on fire
45:25
how bad again i'm sliding them [ __ ]
45:27
i'm sliding
45:28
i was like dad calm down he was like you
45:31
just signed a meeting i said if i signed
45:33
to you
45:34
they're not gonna do the fight i gotta
45:35
sign with with them assigned to them in
45:37
order to get this fight done get some
45:39
paper yo they're not gonna pay you guns
45:41
i'm telling you do it with me because he
45:42
does his own thing
45:44
but end up not going down but now
45:47
i would definitely do a cisco two fight
45:49
something like that if y'all wanted to
45:51
do it
45:51
let's let's talk man let's talk offline
45:53
trying to figure out how we can do it
45:54
right here
45:55
right there yeah we gonna make it much
45:58
more than just a fight too our brains
46:00
are working i'm not going to say it on
46:01
real business man
46:03
i'll take i'll do it i'll catch you i
46:05
will you know
46:06
i'm thinking about it i'm leaving it up
46:08
to the judges this time either
46:09
you feel like you got robbed yeah of
46:12
course i did
46:14
come on man i saw him hit you once man
46:16
and you turned around and started
46:17
swinging out the air
46:21
he punched rich in the face
46:23
[Laughter]
46:26
i like
46:36
[Laughter]
46:38
hey you said you said your father used
46:41
to walk boxing and all that
46:42
name what's your top five boxes that you
46:45
of your all times what's your top five
46:47
i mean man you know mike tyson man i got
46:49
it i gotta put mike up there i know a
46:51
lot of people like ali
46:53
i love ali too man for different reasons
46:55
ali tyson
46:57
aaron pryor man this problem aaron pryor
47:00
you saying names you saying names that
47:02
people don't know right
47:03
there boy that man come on yeah
47:08
sugar ray robinson sugar ray leonard
47:10
these are my guys man roy jones jr
47:14
it was just different man are you not
47:15
saying mayweather though
47:18
he's up there he's up there okay he's up
47:21
there it's just that
47:23
i'm at a uh i just look at aaron pride
47:26
man aaron prior might be one of my
47:28
favorite boxers of all time man
47:30
i would like every time i go and look at
47:32
a fight but tyson was so
47:34
impactful in to my life at the time he
47:37
came up
47:38
and only and then he pressed me one time
47:42
about what you remember that [ __ ] had a
47:45
rap label
47:47
yeah so i'm in uh
47:50
i'm in uh vegas there's some kids coming
47:53
up trying to get me to get on the song
47:54
with them and i was like yo sure you
47:56
[ __ ] my high up i think i'm trying to
47:57
talk to this girl all right
47:58
talk about the music [ __ ] next thing you
48:00
know mike tyson can't say yo
48:02
my art is trying to get a song done with
48:03
you man we know [ __ ] you are just make
48:05
it happen
48:06
don't do that man don't do that to them
48:08
man that's not cool man
48:09
you're not all that man i got the
48:11
[ __ ] piggy the money right now do
48:13
some money
48:14
you do that yo make it yeah like make it
48:16
happen man yeah like don't do that
48:19
i guess they wouldn't say oh this [ __ ]
48:20
blew us off like he came out i was like
48:23
yo man who the [ __ ] is you man like
48:24
yeah he was bad hey did your heart drop
48:27
to your shoes
48:30
it was the first time well it was two
48:32
things you know he's my favorite
48:34
at the time he's like my favorite but he
48:36
was like seeing michael jackson to me
48:38
so but to see just so to see him and to
48:40
see him like
48:42
mad like yo i really want to punch this
48:44
[ __ ] in the face for
48:45
for blowing my artists off at the time
48:48
everybody had a rap lady
48:49
and i'm like yo dog i didn't say i
48:51
wasn't gonna do this [ __ ] i just told
48:52
him not right now real vibe after i'm
48:54
talking he was like
48:55
i just make it happen man just make it
48:56
happen and walk the way he heard me tell
48:58
his story somewhere
49:00
i told somebody he know this story he
49:01
said yo get him on the phone he called
49:03
me
49:04
and what do you say he was like i don't
49:06
remember that [ __ ] i was doing a lot of
49:08
stuff back then i can't man it wasn't me
49:10
it was
49:10
you know whatever you know how you
49:11
always say he was messed up
49:13
but yeah certain [ __ ] you could talk
49:15
all the [ __ ] you want but certain [ __ ]
49:17
you like
49:18
let me not act tough right now let's do
49:20
it right now
49:22
i'm gonna have to get back to him yeah
49:23
he was yeah he was
49:25
livid i guess they went and cried on
49:27
this show that the pool
49:36
at the time i was saying no to
49:38
everything that had the deja vu beat to
49:40
it because we got robbed i mean they
49:42
basically stuck us up took all the
49:43
publishing
49:44
so everybody that wanted to do a record
49:46
with us was
49:47
was doing the [ __ ] boom boom boom
49:49
boom i'm like [ __ ] i'm not giving them
49:51
another dollar i'm not doing that record
49:53
bro it would have been the upfront money
49:55
that's why when tatiana ali and i'm a
49:57
process i said no i'm not doing that
49:58
rodney jerkers guns come on we need
50:00
y'all no
50:01
i [ __ ] did it because i'm a groupie
50:03
[ __ ] will smith showed up at the
50:05
studio so i need you to do this record
50:08
in his [ __ ] outfit filming the movie
50:10
on what's the cowboy movie
50:12
uh the wild wild west yeah [ __ ] left
50:15
the wild wild west that
50:16
asked to tell me i need you to do this
50:18
record and i said yes rodney and him was
50:20
like damn [ __ ] we may ask you for a
50:22
month this [ __ ] pull up on a horse
50:27
that's all will have to say well yeah
50:30
he was will smith man i was like oh [ __ ]
50:33
and
50:33
you know we did the record he gave us
50:36
some money
50:36
and we popped it up but i was just like
50:39
damn man how much money we gonna give
50:41
these these stanley band [ __ ]
50:42
man like this
50:44
i didn't want to do nothing off that
50:45
beat back then man because it was like
50:47
ain't
50:48
it's whatever you get up front is all
50:49
you gonna ever see mm-hmm
50:52
so be guns man hey look i i
50:56
i have to say um as your friend man i i
51:00
mean i enjoy when i laugh man when i see
51:02
you in another position
51:03
i see you in the boxing ring i'm
51:04
cracking up i see you on son of a gun
51:07
i'm getting i'm killed over brother i'm
51:09
sitting you know uh
51:10
uh loving hip-hop man when i start
51:13
seeing you on cheetah
51:14
i start eating popcorn i'm eating
51:16
popcorn now
51:19
oh cheetahs cheetahs is bananas it
51:21
starts on vh1 i think in uh
51:23
about two weeks it'll start airing on
51:25
vh1
51:26
you're gonna be calling me every week
51:28
like [ __ ] what the [ __ ]
51:31
i got a bottle in my trailer before on
51:34
set it's in my ride i need i need i need
51:36
a calendar 12 meet and cigar my trailer
51:38
and my room
51:39
before we shoot so by the time we get to
51:42
shooting
51:43
i'm already trashed so that's what
51:45
you're seeing on the screen
51:47
nine number ten times i'm wet how many
51:49
episodes you squared off this
51:51
how many episodes you squared off this
51:53
year three
51:55
three three five years you can't keep
51:58
fighting
52:00
dude how you fighting straight like
52:02
these are real guests right like
52:04
yeah they but yo this [ __ ] they could
52:06
pull off on you know i'm the first black
52:08
host
52:08
so the [ __ ] they could pull off or um
52:11
[ __ ] they could pull off on on
52:12
on the last host i'm like yo dude you
52:14
may not want to try that with me i'm
52:15
gonna smack this [ __ ] out
52:17
don't do it you know and i'll be talking
52:19
to them on the side like yo don't put
52:20
don't talk to me like that bro and
52:22
it it shows on tv but i tell you man
52:25
the attention that they got they ain't
52:26
getting a long time right
52:28
so i walk in a meeting with cheetahs and
52:30
i got my chest out like yeah y'all see
52:31
this attention y'all see this
52:33
raiding floppy so i'm like i'm bragging
52:36
it's like guns we lost several markets
52:40
with you being a host
52:41
because you're black so like a couple
52:43
you know continents over i heard even
52:45
australia like cancel
52:47
um the show because i got a black hoax
52:49
and i was like damn
52:51
i didn't know they still do that [ __ ]
52:52
yeah yeah damn
52:55
i went and sticking my chest out like yo
52:57
y'all see this attention we get we all
52:58
over shaving we just
53:00
like we lost several markets because
53:03
you're black
53:04
wow wow what you do you done you might
53:08
want to brag too much huh yeah yeah you
53:10
you know that's the state of the country
53:11
that's the state of the world there
53:12
ain't nothing changed shouldn't surprise
53:14
you yeah but
53:15
i mean i just thought it was better and
53:16
then you know some of the mail they'll
53:18
send me
53:18
some of them will be like yo bring back
53:20
the bring back greco this dude this dude
53:23
sounds uneducated he should be on the
53:25
show not the host you know
53:30
but the love mail ten times more than
53:33
the hate so i'll
53:34
take that hey yo guns i know it's a job
53:36
and everything you don't be feeling
53:37
sorry
53:38
for some of the [ __ ] that be
53:39
sucker for loves and [ __ ] like that
53:41
sometime man sometimes like damn man you
53:44
know sometimes
53:45
i even feel bad doing it sometime um
53:49
one time is one dude man
53:53
i'll tell you this he was crying through
53:56
the whole thing
53:58
and the dude his girl was dealing with
54:00
was like some pretty boy lights can do
54:02
brawling so he wanted to smoke with the
54:04
dude
54:05
so i'm i'm it's gonna come across crazy
54:08
on the show but i'm like dude he took
54:09
your girl you want him to take your
54:11
teeth
54:12
you're going to lose twice you don't
54:14
want that type of smoke listen
54:15
yo let's do it with brolic man and um
54:18
but dude was just
54:19
crying and crying and crying and then
54:21
when we get in the van
54:23
i scream on them like yo man up man
54:27
you making light skin [ __ ] look real
54:28
bad right
54:31
i'm screaming on them in the back
54:35
at some point he kept crying through the
54:37
whole [ __ ]
54:38
and i and they was like yo we gotta use
54:40
the guns i screamed on them
54:42
and that's exactly what i said yo you
54:43
making light skin for bad money
54:46
wow man up but it ends with me taking
54:49
them out like i'm taking you out for a
54:51
drink i gotta toughen you up
54:52
and it ends with me taking them out to
54:54
drink and [ __ ] but it was yeah it was
54:55
like that
54:56
it's been it's it's been cheetahs it's
54:59
been
55:00
wow but the thing i give cheetahs is
55:02
being on the show
55:03
i'm able to call them like unlike love
55:05
and hip-hop
55:06
they don't give a [ __ ] once they get it
55:08
they if you go to you have no control
55:10
take this out not they'll they'll even
55:12
they even make me look
55:14
this [ __ ] on the show that made me look
55:16
i didn't need no help looking worse they
55:17
still did it like i'd be like why would
55:19
i do that
55:20
then the film [ __ ] that i needed them to
55:23
film like if i'm gonna do that show me
55:25
doing this song show me go on the
55:26
judicial
55:27
and don't show that good to other stuff
55:29
just pacify me by taping it
55:32
but with cheetahs i'm able to go yo
55:35
i take that out okay and they'll go guns
55:38
we really want that in man you sure yeah
55:40
take that out and they do it they do it
55:42
they do it hey to think about cheaters
55:44
guns because i used to watch it a lot i
55:47
don't know why i mean it's one of those
55:48
guilty pleasures man
55:51
you just can't help yourself right and i
55:53
noticed greco some of the other hosts
55:55
uh clark gable yeah he passed away
55:59
30 years old yeah man i heard about his
56:01
situation like he he was troubled right
56:04
and um and yeah i think he overdosed it
56:07
was he od
56:07
mix he mixed he makes some uh some some
56:10
some type of
56:11
prescriptions that didn't mix allegedly
56:13
i don't know that's what i hear but
56:14
i know in my dr in my room his clothes
56:16
were stored
56:18
and i remember every time i would come
56:20
to the to the to the office
56:22
i'd be like yo i need to close out the
56:24
room it's a little you know that's a
56:25
little
56:26
i don't want to say creepy but it's just
56:27
a little weird that it's closed
56:29
i didn't like seeing his suits and stuff
56:30
that he did green screen was still in
56:32
the closet
56:34
and finally they they finally took it
56:35
out after a while it was like i said i
56:37
just don't want to see that man he was
56:38
30 years old
56:40
young man like yeah [ __ ] so i didn't
56:43
like seeing this stuff like that i felt
56:44
bad for him he had a baby too when he
56:46
died just had it
56:47
yeah i liked him as well he's clark
56:49
gable on the third third
56:51
right um let me a lot of times in those
56:54
situations like i've seen episodes where
56:56
people are really
56:58
really heartbroken and destroyed i've
57:00
seen women that are
57:02
in these situations because it's usually
57:03
the guy cheating you know
57:05
majority of the time right and i see
57:07
them really
57:08
get you know real kind of close and
57:11
comforter
57:11
comfort comfortable with the host
57:15
and i always think man what happens
57:16
after cheaters stop shooting
57:18
with these young ladies
57:21
i say two or three times you know you
57:23
get the calls like yo what's up what's
57:25
up with you why can't we
57:27
even on the show on chick was like yo
57:29
that's me and you eat that happened like
57:30
a couple times like that they're saying
57:32
well so what's up with you
57:33
yeah and uh but you know i'm i'm just
57:36
trying to do my job and be the host love
57:38
i can't
57:40
but it's it's not too many times you
57:43
said that you see somebody
57:44
like a couple of times you're like man
57:46
she bad you don't do to have two bad
57:48
girls
57:50
but for the most time they all messed up
57:52
man maybe
57:54
they'd be yeah be messed up and then
57:55
sometimes you don't know what's
57:57
people be like yo so is it real and it's
57:59
fake you know i don't i'm not privy to
58:01
that if they went and made a deal with
58:03
each other say hey let's go ahead and
58:04
fake a story get this check or whatever
58:06
i don't know
58:06
you know what i mean what i know is i
58:08
just filmed the show so when people come
58:10
to me say oh i know
58:12
such and such that was on the show was
58:13
faking i'm like then you know better
58:15
than me i'm just going i'm doing my job
58:18
but i could tell man i had a couple real
58:21
real ones that was like
58:24
yeah scared me a couple of scary
58:26
situations you know they carry guns out
58:28
here so i was like
58:29
my first time filming a dude's cousin
58:31
had a gun on him
58:33
holding it like with like and i'm
58:35
telling the security like y'all watching
58:36
this one bro
58:38
yeah i'm running down on his cousin and
58:41
he ain't feeling that
58:42
he got purple pants on with a [ __ ]
58:44
gun like his hand on his gun
58:46
so when we got back to the office it was
58:48
my first day and it was like anything
58:50
you wanna say y'all i was very
58:51
uncomfortable to do it in the purple
58:53
pants like
58:54
so it's like say 15 of us or from
58:57
cheetahs
58:57
security cameramen i'm like like
59:00
[ __ ] who around me who got a gun and
59:03
every last person from sound
59:04
camera everybody raised their hand we
59:06
all got guns
59:08
i was like texas texas
59:12
texas don't worry about the last thing i
59:14
was like you last thing you gotta worry
59:19
you could take off your last name and
59:20
give it to us we're guns now
59:22
you just peter you pete lover he was
59:25
surprised
59:26
it was surprised that was my concern i
59:28
was like y'all watching that oh we saw
59:30
him
59:30
okay hey pete what would you say has
59:33
been your most successful
59:35
uh business venture in your career
59:38
um
59:42
i would say damn man that would that
59:44
would be hard to say it was
59:46
uh uh uh my recording studio was back in
59:50
the days
59:51
i had uh i had gun range studios in
59:53
queens and i was doing very well
59:56
until people found out they could get a
59:58
laptop and do that at the crib
1:00:00
but that was a good business venture um
1:00:02
i have a lot of good ideas that i want
1:00:04
to do i also have like a non
1:00:07
you know a not-for-profit called guns
1:00:09
against guns
1:00:10
it's teaching the inner city kids with
1:00:12
the um
1:00:14
what guns do with the gun laws off we
1:00:17
all know what guns do
1:00:19
but what happens when you get caught
1:00:21
with a gun it's three to nine
1:00:23
most likely to get killed by the gun
1:00:25
than to kill somebody if you walk around
1:00:27
with one
1:00:27
statistic that's statistics it's the
1:00:29
yeah statistics on right cause island
1:00:31
what happens to you not the same when
1:00:33
you come home
1:00:34
uh 35 chance you're gonna get slashed uh
1:00:37
the hiv rates and [ __ ] in there so
1:00:39
it's just it's just a matter and you
1:00:41
know what happens to you once you catch
1:00:43
the felony and
1:00:44
in life after that cause i still i'm
1:00:46
still a thug i still i can't get a gun
1:00:48
legally
1:00:49
probably ever i'm trying to get it
1:00:51
expunged but
1:00:52
they stopped expunging a violent gun
1:00:55
charges so
1:00:56
they uh they they paused on expunge
1:00:59
those since
1:01:00
and since 2017 they're not expunging so
1:01:03
that's why people be like yo won't you
1:01:04
just get a gun i'm like
1:01:06
i can't and on my jacket it's five off
1:01:10
the rip
1:01:10
i can get more but not less so if i get
1:01:13
caught with another gun
1:01:14
it starts at five years alone leave the
1:01:18
guns alone
1:01:20
if you get in my car you got a gun on
1:01:22
you
1:01:25
[Laughter]
1:01:31
not at this stage of the game you've
1:01:33
been around too long to be getting
1:01:34
okay give you ain't got time to get more
1:01:36
people give away five in this
1:01:38
stage to the game man hey hey man that's
1:01:41
a great combo man
1:01:44
brother um uh congratulations on this on
1:01:48
it all
1:01:48
i'm looking forward to seeing cheaters
1:01:51
we look forward to seeing you back in
1:01:52
the ring for celebrity boxing
1:01:55
looking forward to seeing you do the
1:01:56
father and son challenge hopefully t.i
1:01:58
and dominique oh you know maybe we'll
1:02:01
talk maybe
1:02:02
maybe will and jaden might get at y'all
1:02:04
who's to say
1:02:05
you know well we take on all oncomers
1:02:09
okay i'll tell master p and romeo
1:02:11
they'll give it to you
1:02:12
all of them yeah we want all the smoke
1:02:15
actually
1:02:16
all of them at the same time okay do
1:02:19
them like dmx did y'all
1:02:21
all right
1:02:24
bro
1:02:25
[Laughter]
1:02:28
all right hey pete thanks for being on
1:02:30
bridge business brother thank you big
1:02:32
appreciation
1:02:40
[Applause]
1:02:42
yo sway
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