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Will Smith, Demi Singleton & Saniyya Sidney On ‘King Richard’ And Love from Venus & Serena Williams
Nov 19, 2021
King Richard stars Will Smith in the lead role of Richard Williams, American tennis coach, and father of global tennis stars, Venus (Saniyya Sidney) and Serena Williams (Demi Singleton). The cast joined Sway In The Morning to talk about the anticipation of the film and much more.
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swag hey widow hey
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how you doing brother and it is all love
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good to see you good to see you too
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sanaya it's a pleasure to meet you demi
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it's a pleasure to meet you as well you
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do
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congratulations i gotta have the bee
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with me will come on i had to pick you
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up
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okay hey what's up heather b hey what's
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up y'all happy emmy hudson knight how
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you doing
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how are you
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good
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we we got db too db is our movie junkie
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sinai and demi he knows anything about
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movie trivia any question he can answer
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say hi to db
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yeah
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oh i like that you like the shirt too
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represent
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i want to start off with a round of
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applause i got a chance to see the
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movies i got a chance to see the movie
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let me start off with a round of
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applause
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[Laughter]
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it's just you guys chemistry on set you
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know from father to daughter dynamic i'm
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a father you know in real life
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so is will obviously
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i was so convinced from the beginning
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that there was some type of bond or
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something more than just be playing
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these characters between the three of
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you just instantly demi and sanaya what
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was it like working with will smith on
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set
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absolutely
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like
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and it was like immediate love and um
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yeah it was really like your dad after a
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while
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yeah you know for me man you know i'm
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stepping on set you know with with
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two young five
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you know young actresses uh coming up
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and and
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you know i just took that responsibility
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seriously you know it's not
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we're we're we're making a movie but you
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know in the same way with with richard
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williams they were they were trying to
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play tennis but at the end of the day he
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was trying to
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uh protect
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and to raise
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children
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to go into the world and contribute you
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know he wanted to raise healthy
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well-rounded faithful
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loving
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people you know and tennis stars was
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fourth or fifth down on the list you
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know so
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for me it was it was really important to
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me that this be one of the greatest
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experience
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uh experiences of their lives and
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that they'd be able to learn and grow in
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a a
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safe environment where
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they could
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make mistakes
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where they could push themselves and
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feel uh supported and loved and honored
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in the process
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that i think that resonates uh when you
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watch it on screen you know it just
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seemed like everybody was there for a
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larger purpose tonight you play venus
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and when you think of the story
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about venus and and and serena and those
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two being such an inspiration to girls
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all over the world specifically black
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girls and now you and demi are playing
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these roles
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did you consider the fact that now
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you're going to be an inspiration to
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girls specifically black girls who look
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just like you from all over the world
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you have you considered that
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i did yeah i think we both have
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um and that was kind of my goal at least
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with this you know serena and venus
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amazing
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serena and venus
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i'm sorry you gotta talk louder
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bill's still coaching
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um yeah but like i was saying they're
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two amazing women that i've looked up to
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my entire life and so i was hoping
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that with this film i got to do the same
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thing for other young black girls around
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the world i think it's really important
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that
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girls like us can see people that look
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like them on screen and feel like
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they're being represented and
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you know feel inspired
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yeah i definitely agree with demi i mean
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i remember being
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five six and seeing them on tv and then
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like
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these are tennis champions who are
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looking just like me and her and i
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thought it was such an amazing thing to
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step into and i was so excited to
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you know channel my childhood hero you
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know so it was really cool and being
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accepted into the music shoes is
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something that i always cherish
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okay hb you want to jump in i do and
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will i know you used to celebrate and
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getting roles but i want to ask demi and
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sanaya like i used to be afraid to
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celebrate honestly when something good
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happened i used to kind of like
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it may sound crazy but i used to get
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scared that something bad was gonna
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happen right around the corner it sounds
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weird but i used to feel that way and my
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grandmother
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um ended up telling me to celebrate like
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i was being blessed and to celebrate and
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so if you don't mind sharing demeans
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tonight when you found out that you got
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these roles of these two iconic women
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like what did you do did you scream did
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you like go party did you start looking
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through your closet it was like i'm
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about to get lace like what did you do
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oh man i cried i was i was
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the audition process
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we demi and i both both pushed ourselves
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very hard
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during the audition process so that was
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kind of a relief in itself
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getting to hear that we were going to
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play them
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but i was just very excited and
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immediately i was like um and i got a
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chain for i got started
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[Laughter]
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i was like oh i gotta start i gotta
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start playing soon again but
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and what about you tonight um
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uh
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i'm sorry yeah
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how did you celebrate
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i i was like i said i was just so
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excited i was so happy and so grateful
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like i said before i lost
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yeah i was
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out of this war i was out of this world
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to be placed
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but like tonight said tennis
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i was very scared for the tenants um
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tennis is not a sport that i've played
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before i would consider myself athletic
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but that is not a sport that i've ever
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trained in or victory you're in
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um or i'm familiar with so i was
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nervous for that
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um but i was really excited and and kind
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of like you said the whole celebration
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thing i've never really been like this
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person to like celebrate booking things
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i kind of just like oh cool and then
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i'll go and do it but with this one i
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did let myself celebrate a little bit
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like good for you good for you yeah
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yeah
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bb you want to get in there you dress
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just like the fresh prince you might as
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well
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yeah i i think will might remember last
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time when he came by for the bad boys
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for lifetime haul i i gave him the uh
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fresh prince jersey for him to sign
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[Laughter]
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so
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if you'll excuse me i got to do another
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uh sort of show-off moment because i do
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have steve hiller's funko pop
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but but there is a reason that i bring
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up independence day because if uh and
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correct me if i'm wrong it was the first
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time that you played a father i mean
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technically he wasn't a biological dad
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to vividly
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but it was the first time you played a
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role where it was a father type figure
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and you've gone on to do that multiple
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times you know with chris gardner
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pursuit of happiness i am legend um so
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my question is when you're doing these
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films with the exception of playing
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non-fictional roles um where do you draw
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the inspiration for the portrayal of a
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father because is it
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with your personal life being both a son
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and a father or do you draw from other
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people other fathers in your life
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depending on the character
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yeah
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depending on the character um
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you know when when
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you know it it's a a real life person
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it it makes it a little bit easier
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because you can just tap into the actual
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person and you can ask questions and you
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can talk to their family so it's a
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little bit easier in that
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way uh but with richard williams
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you know he was from the same generation
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that my father was from
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you know that
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post-world war ii black man in america
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you know
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gotta come up by their own bootstraps
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you know
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you know back back when back when black
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men could fix everything with their
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hands
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[Laughter]
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you know
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the black man had a toolbox right like
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they could carry the toolbox
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and it's like that that thing of making
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and creating and building
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um excuse me
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you know so they i recognized richard
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williams from
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a lot of the attitudes and uh social
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perspectives and emotional difficulties
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that that my my father was saddled with
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um
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and
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then the the the interaction with with
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daughters what i i understood a little
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more from my interaction
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with willow how you
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how you work with a a
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uh a girl and what a girl opens up in a
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man is very different
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than
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what what with sons you know your your
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sons
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um tend to make use of your current
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skill set
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and daughters demand you develop new
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things
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you know
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so
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it was and it's probably the opposite
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for mothers and and sons and mothers and
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daughters
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right you know so
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um
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you know it was an interesting
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exploration
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for me to find the similarities and the
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differences between
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my father and richard williams and then
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between my parenting and and richard
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williams yeah it was great one of the
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things i appreciated to the way you
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portrayed richard williams uh will met
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when we see you know it's not about
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black or white to me it was about him
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being a father and he had this destiny
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and his dream for his daughters but
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for me in real in my reality it's great
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to see this image of black fathers yeah
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you know when when
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when when richard first came into
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prominence in the media circle they
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painted a lot of craziness around his
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brilliance absolutely and i think that
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this movie helped you know unwind those
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nuances that we didn't know about
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absolutely
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that the family was going through right
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you played him so graciously it was so
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much precision how did the family react
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to your richard
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you know what what was really really
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uh turned out to be great but was
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terrifying in the beginning is uh venus
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and serena
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said that they would
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executive produce the project
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but they wouldn't agree to put their
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names on it until after they watched the
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movie
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i was like oh no oh no
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[Laughter]
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you know so
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um you know i had done uh stories in the
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past where it was you know i did
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muhammad ali and the pursuit of
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happiness and concussion so i'd done
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movies about people who were alive that
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were going to see the film
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um
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so i knew the terror of the moment when
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they first walk into the movie theater
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um so i got the call that venus and
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serena were going into the theater and
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they were going to see the movie for the
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first time so that was the worst two
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hours of my life
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but they came out um
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and they called immediately totally in
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tears
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and
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you know they had been on set a couple
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of times but when you see it all
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together with music and everything and
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they were absolutely uh blown away and
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they they thanked me and they called you
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know the whole cast and everybody and
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they they thanked us and they said they
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would be honored to have their names on
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on this film as executive producer
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great movie
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great man
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and then and you brought up pursuit of
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happiness or db did and ali and these
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were all great movies and you were
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nominated uh for an oscar uh that you
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didn't win
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obviously but one of the things i found
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interesting about this movie is that
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it's also a thread of what do you learn
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when you don't win right right exactly
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what is it did you learn when you lost
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when you didn't get the win what did you
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learn
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was there something you learned
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from losing with those oscars
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interesting because i've never um
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i've never really been awards centered
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okay um i'm i was always much more box
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office minded
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you know
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so um
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you know it wasn't something that
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that you know my heart yearned for you
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know so i was i was much more devastated
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when my movies didn't perform
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at the box office when something flopped
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at the box office that that would that
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would lay me down for for a couple of
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days
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um
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you know but you know with with this
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film
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um i'm i'm less concerned about being
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nominated in my life and in my spiritual
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work i'm beyond that need but i would
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love for my cast
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and i would love for venus and serena
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um to to be honored and i would love for
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anjanu
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that would be that i would love for
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anjanu
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that the subtle power
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that she showed in this role the
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tightrope that she walked
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in
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this role it's quiet
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but
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it's the absolute backbone
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of this family and this story you know
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so i i would i would love to to see
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um you know anjanu get her flowers
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she was doping the clock sisters too she
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yeah absolutely she's amazing i would
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like to ask the girls again too tonight
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and jimmy is there something about venus
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and serena that you learned that maybe
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we didn't know about like one time
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serena came to the studio with us she
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got chicken she ate chicken she hung out
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hot sauce
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like she was so cool and and for us
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watching her she was like this image we
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we couldn't she was so big we forgot
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that she was like a real person
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but there's something that each of you
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learned about one of them that you were
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just totally blown away
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i think just like you said how serena is
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just a normal person
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tanaya and i were losing our minds we're
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like they're here what are we gonna
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do we were all over the place and then
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we spoke with them we were like what
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what were we so worried about yeah
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they're normal people and i think it's
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because
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they're these huge personalities on the
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court and and
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they're beasts on that court and that
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can be intimidating because and
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we didn't know you know we didn't know
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how they were in real life because we
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never
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speak with them and so when we finally
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got to speak with them we're like oh
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they're cool
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i mean exactly what demi said i was kind
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of just like
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oh wow you're just like you and me man
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but
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how funny they were too i mean like
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they're like then we said they're such
16:52
beasts that they have this seriousness
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to them
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that is just so like i don't know this i
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have a tiger
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so you're expecting them to be like hi
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how are you
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[Music]
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[Laughter]
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they were just so bubbly and there were
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so many similarities between us it's
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kind of like looking in the mirror when
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we met each other for the first time wow
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he kept
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crazy
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uh will i wanted to uh also congratulate
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you on your memoir which just came out
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um
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gosh what
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oh
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yo bruh i'm just telling you i'm like a
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lazy reader but like i'm trying not to
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even get emotional like yo
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yeah thank you thank you no thank you
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thank you um
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and also i didn't get to thank you last
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time you came by for the town hall
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because
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and i know you get this a lot but that
17:50
episode of fresh prince with with your
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father i i that that was me and so thank
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you for
17:57
for uh for for that that really hit home
17:59
for me so i mean that that's a whole
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nother conversation but
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back to uh king richard uh but not you
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know what now but i mean it is it is you
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know always a beautiful thing
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for
18:11
me to to hear that that was one of the
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things that
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you know we were talking about on the
18:17
set
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that
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the the only reason
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to make art
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is to help people heal
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right to to
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make it okay
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for people
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to be hurt
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to be broken
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to be sad to be confused
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and
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to shine a light on the way out
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you know so for me you know with that
18:46
episode and
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you know with king richard and really
18:50
heavily with the memoir
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you know um
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i'm trying to normalize
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um authenticity
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that you don't you don't have to
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hold on to
19:06
a false image
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that you really can be
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your imperfect self
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and you can still be loved and you can
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still find your way to joy and you can
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still
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uh be powerful when you sweep those
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things under the rug um
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you know trauma and problems are
19:27
non-biodegradable
19:29
that you know they they're they are
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going to be there
19:32
like a plastic bottle a thousand years
19:35
from now
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so
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you know i'm i'm i'm happy you were
19:43
touched with that that's what i loved
19:44
about king richard too it's like the
19:47
nuances of what this family had to
19:50
suffer to be able to realize
19:52
um
19:53
their dreams kind of makes
19:56
makes
19:58
your situation like oh okay cool they're
20:01
not just savants you know there is you
20:04
know a certain amount of specialness on
20:06
but they suffered the same things that
20:08
you're suffering and through their faith
20:10
through their love for each other
20:12
through their perseverance through their
20:14
discipline they were able to rise above
20:17
their their condition i love putting
20:19
putting art into the world that um
20:23
inspires and and instructs in that way
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yeah um so so uh back to king richard
20:30
because there's a lot of moments that
20:31
are gonna make you cry there's a lot of
20:33
moments that are going to inspire you
20:34
there's a lot of moments that are going
20:35
to make you mad um
20:38
you're one of the best when it comes to
20:40
triggering emotion in the scene and uh
20:42
girls you you both were you me and joe
20:45
me and uh sway were joking about it this
20:46
morning about how we both were like
20:48
trying to
20:52
we were in the screening room and i was
20:54
acting like i was fixing my mask like
21:00
it's hot
21:09
you needed that emotion and maybe it
21:11
just wasn't happening that day like you
21:12
were like all right we're going to get
21:13
it we're going to nail it and then for
21:15
whatever reason the cheers wouldn't come
21:17
or you just felt like it wasn't coming
21:18
off authentic
21:20
oh yes
21:22
there is i i think
21:24
there's a thing between mr roland i have
21:26
been that and
21:27
kind of the first few takes i was trying
21:30
to get there but it was just like a
21:32
block
21:33
and then i kind of just like let myself
21:35
go
21:35
i talked to
21:38
christ their sister and i talked to rand
21:40
they were like just think like what
21:41
would venus feel
21:43
and then immediately there was just like
21:45
a switch
21:46
and i like closed my eyes for a second
21:48
and i opened it and i was here
21:51
i was just like you know what
21:54
how would i feel
21:55
and how would she feel and that just
21:57
kind of merged together and then i said
21:59
well on top of it coming over like
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it's done yeah
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that's the thing that's fun for me also
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um
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we're working with uh demi and sanaya
22:19
it's like the off-camera work is my
22:23
favorite part
22:24
because when i'm off camera right in
22:26
their close-ups or not off camera so now
22:29
it's my job to try to get it out of them
22:32
so i'll change the lines and adjust it
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and you know say something do something
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different throw something at them you
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know so it it's a it's a really
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uh fun process trying to help people
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find that emotional clip
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well real quick you said something about
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fun and in your book i remember reading
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that you said like comedy is an
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extension of your intelligence and i'm
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paraphrasing and you said like in order
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to be really funny you have to be really
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smart yeah and
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um just curious who is your favorite
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comedian
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chappelle is the goat right so
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like
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you know he's not even on the list no
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more yeah
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you know
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but when i when i was coming up
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um
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i wanted to be eddie so bad
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i wanted to be eddie murphy so bad
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and as i was becoming a movie star i
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think i talked about it uh in a couple
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chapters i think i talked about it i
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think it's in chapter seven where i talk
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about eddie i'm only at power right now
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so don't tell me okay
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but i in my mind
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i wanted star wars was my favorite movie
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and eddie murphy was my favorite actor
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and in my mind as i started to try to
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become a movie star i i wanted to be
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eddie murphy in star wars
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[Laughter]
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i had my manager i was like find me
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stuff where i can be eddie murphy in
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star wars you know
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and independence day and
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black kind of fit into into
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that hole thank you thank you for that
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hey uh well uh first of all sanaya and
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demi your future is so bright your
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present is so bright congratulations to
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you i was totally convinced you did an
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awesome job in this movie
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will i love you you keep me inspired you
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my brother you're my peer
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man
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you already know you've inspired me
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since day one
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uh before we let you go this is hip-hop
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uh history month appreciation month uh
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you guys brought up men in black i
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remember you had your good friend biz
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marquee in the men in black series yeah
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yeah
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okay you just for hip-hop history man
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can you talk about biz and what it was
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like working with him on him black oh
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man me and biz
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have been friends for
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over 30 years you know
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uh biz used to come to philly so our our
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record companies
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the
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the brothers
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uh dana goodman and lawrence goodman
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were brothers dana goodman
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ran word up records in philly and his
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brother lawrence goodman ran pop art
25:26
so far was the whole juice crew
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right so
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we were connected
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through dana and lawrence goodman so biz
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would come to philly
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all the time so you know we had a we had
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a real close relationship with the juice
25:41
crew and it was like our first hip-hop
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connection to
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new york and you biz was
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hilarious
25:51
was hilarious that dude loved to have
25:54
fun he loved to bust he loved to to
25:57
joke and you know he was you know one of
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the few that would just come to philly
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and stay at the crib you know so he
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would he would you know biz didn't you
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know yo i don't like hotels
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[Laughter]
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like this you two you too big just
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staying out
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[Laughter]
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yo come on
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[Laughter]
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that was my that was my dude that was my
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dude
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yeah what did he believe it when you
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told him you was gonna put him in a
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movie how did he react to that
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yo he was like yo i'm only doing it if i
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could be an alien
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[Laughter]
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i was like just i don't know if you're
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gonna be an alien no i'm not doing it
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unless i'm an alien
26:57
i want to thank you all i i would love
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for you guys tonight and demi to come
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see us in person and will to come back
27:04
will may not may not admit to it but we
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re-sparked his rapping career tonight
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[Applause]
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[Laughter]
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real good i was like you know i might be
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able to do this again
27:19
i saw you rapping in brooklyn last night
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hey will would you ever do a versus uh
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say yeah you know i was i was thinking
27:28
about that me and l were talking about
27:30
doing one
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i just never i've never had a chance to
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to get to uh i was writing my book
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okay yeah
27:39
you and l.l will smith heather what do
27:41
you think of that ll and will smith
27:43
versus come on body me down embody me
27:51
l was out whenever it was the dj and the
27:53
rapper yeah yeah yeah it was like eric b
27:56
and rock kim jazzy jeff fresh prince
27:59
like everybody had they dj so yo don't
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left j don't let jeff on the turntable i
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know yeah there you go that's my secret
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weapon
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right there
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all right i love you guys uh thank you
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again congratulations on king richard
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[Music]
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hey can we get a quick drop get a job
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yeah yeah what's your name okay yo this
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just say your names and we're gonna sway
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in the morning with heather b and tracy
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g
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what's up y'all this is will smith
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what's up it's tonight sydney and it's
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debbie singleton it's my king richard
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squad and we were swaying the morning
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with heather b and tracy g
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bong you
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y'all have a beautiful day
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congratulations appreciate y'all all
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right you're good
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you
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