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and we definitely play hot music as
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i think i played a little bit of high
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music at that time
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yes indeed not a little bit he played a
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lot of it had to be in tracy g
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like i said before the young man is a
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pillar in the game anytime i see him
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when i come to the town man he's
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throwing a bunch of ideas of growth and
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community and
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and opportunities and collaborative
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efforts this is what this man has stood
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on for years
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since he started as an intern and soaked
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up the game at soul beat and
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he ain't he didn't leave oakland he kept
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it in oakland and kept building in
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oakland and so that for that reason we
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got him on the show today the one and
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only
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chuck johnson man give it up for chuck
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jones
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another another incredible introduction
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what's up slade how are you doing ladies
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what up chuck come on man
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hey listen if you go to the town man
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anytime you come to uh
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come to the oakland man just mention
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chuck johnson's name and you're gonna
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find a connection to somebody
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that's a guarantee respect respect man
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absolutely man this this is it man this
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is awesome
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absolutely we gonna do it again in
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person man but i thought it was
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important for us to um
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really talk about what today is and i i
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sometimes when you talk about history
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and folks aren't aware of it
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it could be kind of kind of confusing
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because you you can't really connect to
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it and one way i like to talk about soul
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beat is it being the first
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you know black owned network in the
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country so where
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people gravitate or they can relate to
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what
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what bet has done imagine this being
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done
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before bet correct chuck
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that's correct sway the best way i i
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describe
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soul b is it's been the hidden jewel
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that russell simmons knew about it was
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that hidden jewel that
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golden mike knew about jay-z knew about
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it's again the
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the national but local connection to the
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culture
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if you knew that you had to break your
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music in the west coast
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you had to come to solby i could take
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you back to
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i'd say about 1987 1987 randy mc was out
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here
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rocking with with chuck johnson so the
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history goes like forever i mean
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shout out to easy e just all the greats
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came through to so beat and then they
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took the energy that they got from the
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bay area
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and took it back home and and twisted it
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back up and
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you know the rest been history so
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sophie's just been a pillar in the
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culture
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um for those who came to came to the bay
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area
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on the sway tell them about the gaming
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convention the gavin convention so
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you know the gavin report was a a trade
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magazine we speak on it a lot here chuck
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we've done it before in the trade
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magazine what it was imagine billboard
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or
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or magazines like that that kept track
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of mute that music how music was being
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played on radio across the country
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mainstream
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college radio so on and so forth and in
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the early 90s the gavin report shout out
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to tembisa and shakka
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shout out to kelly wu brian sampson
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the gavin report put on a big conference
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and
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everybody from all over the world came
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man and then so be
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what was that like for you bro what was
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that like for soul beat at that time
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at that time it was it was just a
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perfect storm
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because again we got a chance to have
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great content recorded
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again we built new relationships with
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whether it's an independent artist or a
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national artist
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and even for me as a young dude you
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gotta remember also this is the early
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90s so that was when hip-hop was really
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making his mark
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you know and actually i i remember when
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big and
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big and uh puppy was out here at the
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henry j from kaiser convention center
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sway
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so when they was getting they start you
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know they was coming out here networking
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so it was it was just a melting pot a
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great times because we had a lot of
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artists at the time
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actually on major record labels so you
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know the bay had
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had a thriving point with the with the
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um with the component of hip-hop
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and beyond but sobe was just very unique
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because
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hey i was from me stoked yeah i got a
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shot on your tv
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so that's the sway tell them why she's
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not giving them the old school swag tell
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them about the hip-hop coalition
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the hip-hop coalition so the
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is a coalition of just um dj's
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uh promoters uh
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you know uh people who was pushing
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culture forward
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that came together um to just really
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ensure
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the thing with the bay is when you talk
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about the hip-hop coalition
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and and all the different organizations
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david paul with the bomb magazine
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you know uh uh david tamu
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you know siddiqui you know kim collette
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you know all of the cabbie kev kcsu
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stanford heather you know all this stuff
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kpfa
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you know all these different um
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community stations we
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had to chuck and you could speak to this
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we had to galvanize our sources because
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the bay was just kind of like a
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smorgasbord people would just come to
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the bay and you eat up all this game you
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get all this good food
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and all this nourishment and you take it
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somewhere else
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and then you didn't get credit to debate
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so beat
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help trigger something you mentioned
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easy e and run dmc and all these
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when they came to town they had to go to
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so be first to even promote their
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concerts
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you know that's so beat chuck i remember
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and i want you to talk about chuck
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johnson
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the the the older chuck johnson because
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um but i remember heather and tracy too
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i was you know we would watch soul beat
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on a local uh
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tv network right and you'll see lanelle
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on there doing her show
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look down what up little damn y'all
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you see lindell lindell was like back
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there too
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but the thing that may so be special
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chuck and i want to talk about this and
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the original chuck johnson
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that a lot of platforms are missing
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today is the human interaction
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because say for example a lot of radio
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now people pre-record they do what they
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got to do to fill up their content grids
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and but you're not hearing that human
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interaction you you're not hearing what
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the pulse of the community
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has to say you know what i mean and so
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beat allowed people to call in that's
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what lunell was talking about
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live on the air and say hey man we got a
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problem or you know we got a problem in
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the lower bottoms man we got a lot of
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homeless people
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that's sleeping under the bridge man
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what are we going to do about that
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right chuck and and that's what may so
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be such a important platform
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to the bay area and then it left
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but i want to talk about chuck johnson
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this chuck johnson the young chuck
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johnson
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came under the tutelage of the older
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chuck johnson but you two
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aren't related right
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yeah man uh is that this is how the game
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went
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his name is charles edward johnson my
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name is charles edward johnson you
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and uh yeah so what it was is because on
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the real i i just really was on the
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pulse of hip-hop at a very young age you
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know what i'm saying
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and then i actually went to school for a
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television broadcasting and on the fluke
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i met chuck
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and this is a trip because now it's just
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a trip that he gave me his business
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part i did the internship for a year
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it took a year i finally got my w-2 form
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thing going with him
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and there it was we saw we had the same
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thing and um i should be just like
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anybody else
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just watching so be because you got to
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realize i'm going to say this
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out loud to the world sobe was like i
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guess you could say the first
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instagram or something because it was
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live it was it was no
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it was like a five no five second delay
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you just had to really live it with the
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culture and that was what was incredible
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is that they can call right up right now
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they just gonna say something like they
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love you or
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say something opposite they had a chance
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to tell you that right then in here in
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real time
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and you know shout out to mr johnson
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because again
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he decided to have a black owned network
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kept it 100 percent
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you know what it was it may not reach
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certain heights
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but it it it was definitely a stable in
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the culture
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because it was facing you know he got
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you know people like viacom
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came him and earlier time 1983 in fact
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and he decided to kind of go his own
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path so
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it was important to
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to get his legacy understood that's why
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i basically i'm gonna spend some time
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developing a documentary but again
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chuck even had a life before he even
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came to oakland
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in 1978 for like 25 years
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he was in the culture he was a like a
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radio dj in okinawa japan in the 60s
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too um he was the head of the naacp in
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san diego at one time and get this way i
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don't know if guys know but
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he actually produced some adult in my
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movies the old school
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guys who
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he just has a long history of of of
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of interest to the industry that's not
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real well known
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so i just said you know what i'm gonna
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take time to do this and then the
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reality was
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is that i was coming up in the 90s so i
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was right there in the post of the
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hip-hop community
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and so when the opportunity came he was
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like man
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i'm gonna throw you on this tv show to
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figure it out
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in less than a week i became a hip-hop
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host and my first show was with with the
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fuji's
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uh uh simple key she had the song called
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playing my phone
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and it was the uh the coupe shout out to
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um dj
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pam functions so so yeah man
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it's just it's a it's an intertwining
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story of myself and the hip-hop culture
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but of course um shout out to og chuck
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for 25 years
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of entertainment bringing into oakland
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was all deep
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i love it man today is soul b day
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oakland stand up
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if you grew up watching soul beat
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888-742-3345 we actually got flash on
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the line from oakland
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flash grand rises hey flash
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flash
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[Music]
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how about that
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talk about soul b flash turn your radio
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down and talk on your phone but talk
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about soul beating it's important though
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okay yeah radio on zombies man you can
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go to east my world but they weren't
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inside these small malls and then they
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moved outside each small mall but it was
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just
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on glass from oakland man those are many
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major shots
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especially you know i'm saying we're
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doing those interviews and we used to
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have you know host him at the club at uh
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jimmy's in the complex back in the day
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but man oh yeah
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billy jam i don't give a damn but the
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videos i mean
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to me so be you can actually go there
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you know what i'm saying
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you could be there you could be a part
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of it and not only that i mean it was
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just something that it was really
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oakland's own
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music entertainment it had everything i
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mean it's funny because my grandparents
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would watch so deep
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you know what i'm saying i mean it's a
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real
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major oakless culture right there live
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in the flesh like how you said earlier
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before b.e.t before mtv you know trying
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to portray
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black music i mean everybody i mean you
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know man i went to fremont high you know
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class of 1991 so
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you know everybody somewhat always
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talked about
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knowing trump johnson always gave praise
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to chuck johnson i remember we was
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trying to
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so joseph isn't there yeah you know what
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i'm saying so i mean
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it's kind of hard not to i mean every
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day they had something that was on
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you know it's funny because when i saw
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uh visit my relatives in texas we
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talked about uh sophie they were like
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man what is that i said man honestly
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just black people and open on tv for
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real
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exactly i like that description man
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hey man everything he's saying is so on
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point
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and today we're talking about the first
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annual soul beat day
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that's happening in oakland we got chuck
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johnson on here flats
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chuck what can't peop are we going to be
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able to watch sobe
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you know that's why everybody putting
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that on my back man and
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again man putting it out there right now
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i'm at the holla at you about some uh
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production and
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it's under the opportunity man you know
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it's a great opportunity man to research
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such a
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important brand and take it beyond the
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bay area you know
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so absolutely we're going towards again
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establishing that
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network see people don't realize they
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they don't they don't understand
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the difference between like a youtube
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page
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versus the actual network see networks
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you gotta buy satellites
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you gotta you gotta buy buildings you
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know what i mean
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so the the path towards the network
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is vital and we're definitely going in
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that direction but in the meantime
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i just want to give a culture a little
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story about soul be
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and kind of take it from there okay so
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the documentary has been flashed by the
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way you're a citizen man thank you flash
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appreciate
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hey i sway in the morning okay uh so
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you're working on the doc
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um i can't wait to see that happen today
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is the first annual solby day in oakland
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where is it taking place and who's going
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to be there
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we got it at the uh busy white located
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at 44
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um webster street and uh jack london
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square for those who know downtown
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oakland
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and uh you know man i talked to a lot of
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a lot of people behind the curtain
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hopefully everybody show up again this
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is a free event
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you know um bottom line is we we talked
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from the mayor to uh to shore
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god damn man um
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yeah yeah and and and just so many other
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individuals you know
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um that that's definitely supportive of
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the event you know shout out to money b
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and you know what they doing with the
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digital underground day and
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they in full support of this and you
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know it's just an
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array of people that i'm just hoping
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it's gonna really come show out
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and support the soldier movement and
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again we're gonna plan to do more
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because this literally
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landed in my lap through a study sway in
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my in my project with the documentary i
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looked through
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some paperwork a month ago and shout out
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to um former mayor ellios
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who actually gave the proclamation to
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oakland um with with sobe
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in 1993 um you know he was basically it
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did this work
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and i said man should i let this day go
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by or should we do a little you know a
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little something to just represent today
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so that's what we doing today so it's
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just something we just put together for
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the community
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you know hope everybody do come out who
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said they would
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absolutely so be day everybody also be
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something man i remember hammer used to
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be on so beat
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you know it it took so beat swag swag
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only river you know uh and uh
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dame dash and kareem burst came through
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each my mall and and uh i was right
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before them
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i just did an interview with doves he
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and mac 10 in the middle of that 96
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you know i'm saying between
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east and west coast you know that right
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they all came through the east my mall
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and i'm going to talk about that in the
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documentary because i got all of the
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footage yeah
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i got like about an hour interview with
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jay i got an hour interview with them
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and it was just the probably most
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intense day of me even doing my show
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because i i was like right there in the
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middle for hip-hop
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but i was really in the middle of what
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was going on so
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you know we're just going to show that
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throughout throughout the footage
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i love it man hey chuck uh what happened
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tracy i want to ask him anything
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yeah i'm also curious like very
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specifically on where
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the name soul beat came from
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uh you know that was just uh basically a
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derivative for
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uh for for uh mr mr johnson because uh
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his thing was always about keeping the
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drums drums beaten
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you know um you know it's kind of just
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one of those inner connections to our to
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our to our people
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you know what i'm saying that he was
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just tapping into that vibration about
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the drums keep beating for us
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because you know that was the way we was
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able to escape you know what i mean
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because we
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was hitting them drums giving each other
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messages you know what i mean
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right right wow that's deep
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yeah we it actually go there
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yeah did y'all play y'all did y'all play
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all glocks down
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also beat you know what
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what what i wanted to ask what i wanted
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to ask though to you chuck
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you know a lot of times we have the
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opportunity to talk to artists from the
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west coast in different regions of the
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world and they always talk about how
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they used to watch artists from the east
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coast and how maybe they were influenced
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or wondering why they couldn't get
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things going
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for them in their particular region but
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the and the way that you were doing it
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um
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out with so be on the west coast did you
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used to watch like say maybe a video
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music box or empty like
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did you watch video shows that were
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based on the east coast
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oh absolutely yeah i mean that's how i
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got my roots you know shout out to
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you know five five freddy to you know
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what i'm saying the
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rap cds to of course uh the og rob
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mcdaniels i actually met
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og ralph with chuck one time at a
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convention in l.a so
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so i was aware of him at a very early
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age and realized that he was the mark so
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to speak
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so me you know swear tell you we was we
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was true
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hip-hop heads but knew all the mob
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all the street
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but i was a real true hip-hop purist
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you know what i'm saying i really paid
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attention to lyricism you know they
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shout out again that's why i was talking
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about the uh
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the uh you know the coalition because
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because i was around these guys who were
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you know serious hip-hop guy so bottom
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line was
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i was into south music in east coast
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music
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and that was just our bay area flavor we
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was willing to give to give the others a
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try
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so that's that's just was my the way i
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did my show and
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at the end of the day that's what i want
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my show when you see this footage
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because you don't see my playlist
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that i had a big mixture i played local
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but we definitely had our eye on on the
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national viewpoint
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it is man chuck johnson citizens the
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round of applause for what you're doing
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brother
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keep that name alive keep that legacy
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alive so be
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day uh you know if you're in oakland
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you're in
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entertainment you're creative uh if
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you're new to the game if you're
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fresh out of high school or college and
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you want to learn
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and be a part of something that's just
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amazing a part of an amazing legacy
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tonight man from 6 00 p.m
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right to 12 a.m um
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yeah yep yep yep and then if you want to
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learn more about us go to sophie tv on
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our instagram
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sobynetwork.com hey chuck love you
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brother stay 10 toes down man the town
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needs you
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thanks chuck appreciate you appreciate
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you ladies
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okay happy soul b day give it up to
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chuck johnson man make sure y'all follow
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soul deep tv
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man have a good time chuck i'll talk to
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you soon brother
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[Music]
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[Music]
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you
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