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Naughty By Nature’s KG & Vin Rock Celebrate 30 Year Anniversary of ‘19NaughtyIII’ | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Mar 9, 2023
Naughty by Nature, one of the most iconic Hip-Hop groups of all time, is celebrating 30 years since their platinum classic album “19 Naughty III” was released. Over three decades later and the timeless quintessential New Jersey anthems are still beloved. To mark this incredible milestone, KG & Vin Rock – two original members of the group - hopped on Sway In The Morning to talk about everything from their very first meeting back in 1986 to their creative process for creating music that would ultimately help define a whole era of hip hop. Tune in as they speak candidly with Sway and Shibon over nostalgic classics like “Hip Hop Hooray”and “O.P.P.”.
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Naughty By Nature’s KG & Vin Rock Celebrate 30 Year Anniversary of ‘19NaughtyIII’ | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
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DC wow
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yes wow you know these guys have been on
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this show many times have the
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be man I known these dudes since the
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very beginning man 1990 91 facts I've
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known these guys and Naughty by Nature
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first really start making a blow up on
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the scene and I often tell the story
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that a lot of people we saw them down
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with OP stickers before we even saw saw
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their pictures knew who they you should
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have been in Jersey okay what was it
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like in Jersey crazy Yes Man uh this
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this critically acclaimed awardwinning
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Global
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phenomenon iconic group on so many
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levels on so many levels come on man not
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as just tremendous phenomenal
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songwriters who have entertained us for
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over three
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decades over three decades they've been
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able to create the sauce
1:00
that keeps you going that keeps us going
1:02
in the soundtrack of Our Lives we talked
1:05
about this before who they are as
1:07
marketing gurus look at the hoodie I'm
1:09
wearing Ben a even pay me for this I
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just I just knew I was supposed to wear
1:14
it you know what I mean but that's how
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it was anything they did any any way
1:19
they promoted or marketed their music it
1:21
was a bigger than just a song and coming
1:23
out the studio it was a whole
1:24
presentation with them 100 it didn't
1:27
stop in the studio it didn't stop with
1:28
the branding and marketing when you went
1:30
on the stage Heather can you talk about
1:32
the stage shows well I would have to say
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this um I think the reason why Naughty
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by Nature is one of the greatest
1:38
performing groups is because I can
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personally say they are students of the
1:42
game I remember being on tour with krs1
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I remember being in different venues and
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whether they rocked before or after
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Chris they were always watching I
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watched Naughty by Nature watch and they
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wanted to perfect every little aspect of
2:00
the stage because prior to Vinnie you
2:03
had to look at flavor flave in a way as
2:06
that ultimate hype man who never missed
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a beat when Chuck hit that and then you
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watch Vinnie never miss a freaking beat
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I I say the same about split star with
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Buster there's certain people who you
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can tell it's no accident Naughty by
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Nature as great as they are as a group
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they are even greater students of this
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game well hether I got to say I got go I
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got to introduce you first man okay okay
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ladies and
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gentlemen celebrating the 30th
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anniversary of
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1993 hip hop and music in general iconic
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players themselves give it up for kg and
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Vin
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Rock okay B go ahead no Heather listen
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you're absolutely right we were students
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of the game because when we were coming
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up still of course but when we were
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coming up the most feared MC
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we were afraid of getting dissed by krs1
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yo you know because they you know Chris
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had such a ill State show his presence
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his everything and then you know what
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Rebecca as far as production the sound
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being right so we studied that and
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actually that's why we started working
3:18
with Rebecca because of krs1 and we when
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we got Rebecca from you guys we plucked
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her not plucked her from you but that's
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how we started working with her we went
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to a show at the
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and it was um bdp um Public Enemy and
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all them and I remember um Caris one
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Mike like feing back or doing something
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or whatever he's walking out there
3:40
Rebecca comes running down the aisle and
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throws a mic he catches the mic
3:45
and and we like who is Rebecca we need
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her as our sound so let me tell sway a
3:51
story he'll remember now that I say that
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Rebecca forer everybody needs to know
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this woman's name Eugene SS sway I
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mentioned her before to you because at
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the time we were all coming up she was
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one of the only black female sound
4:04
person I've ever seen in my life and she
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was that dope like when I tell you krs1
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had a female sound person she was
4:14
incredible in the studio engineer and
4:16
would go she could do a little Club a
4:18
block party an arena the Apollo
4:21
everything so I'm not surprised that
4:23
they had her because of what their show
4:26
looks like I'm not surprised she's adult
4:28
Rebecca forer G SS the truth wow and
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also too another one just to let you
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know too D Square D Square dare d square
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DNE sum listen this is this is real
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we've been plucking from
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the wow from day one from so Dwayne
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sumor was another engineer from boogie
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down Productions who used to work at a
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power play studio and they we were all
4:55
there working putting together that
4:56
edutainment album from 1990 and and and
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but beyond that so they started to go on
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a roll not only were we students we were
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thieves I see that right why y'all
5:07
didn't steal Heather we did Ste hea JY
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they didn't have to steal me I
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was already there wow and Chris put out
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uh Return of the boom bap that same year
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y that 1993 came out yeah wow so when I
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look at all the projects Ice Cube had
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lethal injection all of these different
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I 93 um Drake came out y Dre was out
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came out 93 y I think chronic was 9 9293
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yep damn it was a it was uh cuz I
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remember hip hop paray and um G thing
5:41
fighting at fighting with each other on
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the charts for number one ENT the woo
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came out in 199 36 Chambers that came
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out in 1993 damn love the 9s yeah man uh
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who else was out that was just such a uh
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tribe call Quest Tri I think Cypress
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came out Cy came out damn De La Soul had
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an album that that year yep oh what was
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yeah what was yeah that's that's what
6:05
was the competition like who was who was
6:08
y stage Rivals would you say back then
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everyone you just named I mean trop call
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Quest teris one deight were our um label
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mates rest in peace
6:19
Davey um I mean you had the West Coast
6:21
Snoop was arriving on the scene uhca
6:24
[ __ ] you had Nas over here on the East
6:27
Coast Jay-Z was coming up like everybody
6:30
was out there and what's crazy about
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what they saying sway like you mentioned
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it was groups so you had solo artists
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and groups that was just coming it's
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crazy wow so um y'all on Tommy Boy Tommy
6:41
Boy Tommy Boy so when I hear these Tommy
6:44
Boy stories like we brought up Dave rest
6:46
in power but Dayla came up here once and
6:48
talked about how their music wasn't
6:50
streaming and they was having this you
6:52
know friction with Tommy Boy what was
6:54
your' relationship like with Tommy it
6:55
was a little bit different and like you
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said um rest in peace to Dave too man
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like with such big supports and always
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been day one I mean fans of De man it's
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just man we we love de definitely from
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day one and actually let let me just say
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too our very first time we got
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introduced to a stage like on stage
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Arena Stage de bought us out what do you
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mean they we were in South Carolina
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promoting op the record hadn't even
7:21
really come out come out yet it was just
7:24
starting to come out and we were out
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there with charm that worked for um
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charm Warren she worked for for Tommy
7:30
Boy so we were in South Carolina de la
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had a show tra was like oh by the way de
7:35
LA's here let's go by and see de la
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tonight so we went by to the show de la
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just was like hey we gonna throw op on
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man I'm telling you they gonna go crazy
7:45
we like ah no I'm telling you they threw
7:47
op on and we came out and performed op
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the whole Arena went crazy and that was
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the first time we realized outside of
7:54
being around here that op was blown up
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that was the first time the very first
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time y y de now and to answer your other
8:04
question what was our relationship with
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Tommy Boy back then we had a different
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relationship because of Flavor Unit
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right so laa she was signed to Tommy Boy
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already but with our relationship with
8:17
Mark the 45 King and Benny Medina we
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actually got signed to Warner Brothers
8:22
records which was the parent company so
8:24
we technically weren't signed to Tommy
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Boy okay we had a maor la
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yeah we had a major record label deal
8:32
structure and then the project was
8:34
handed to Tommy Boy because they were
8:35
more Street and and on top of that you
8:39
know de la was there before us uhhuh and
8:43
Latifa and shaim were there doing
8:45
business with Tommy Boy before us so all
8:48
of the stuff that may have or could have
8:50
gone wrong with us they made sure it
8:53
didn't because they were already there
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before us can y'all speak to this
8:57
Dynamic with Latifa because because
8:59
usually when we hear about artist being
9:01
introduced to the game it's Lil Wayne
9:03
introducing you know Nicki Minaj or it's
9:06
j as big you know introducing Lil Kim or
9:09
Jay introducing foxy or whatever that
9:12
combination is
9:14
Latifa put her stamp on y'all exactly
9:18
right exactly Queen Latifa man are y'all
9:20
kidding me you got to clap that
9:23
up y'all better better do your
9:27
history and you you you got um we
9:30
definitely have to Big up all of
9:31
original Flavor Unit big shout to Mark
9:33
the 45 King rest in peace Apache rest in
9:37
peace J he just passed away and L Kim
9:41
shabaz L the whole FL unit that's right
9:44
because the Flavor Unit you know as a
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crew as a MC crew with Mark the 45 King
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they really paved the way and and paved
9:52
the way for us then Shak Kim and Latifa
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came along and started Flavor Unit
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management so we were lucky enough that
9:59
were signed as the first Flavor Unit
10:01
management artist and then that's how we
10:03
got signed a Warners and Tommy Boy and
10:05
all of that so we stand on the shoulders
10:08
of all of the greats who came before us
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hence 30 years later we're celebrating
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hip hop paray giving props to all of
10:15
those who came before us come on man
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this was the third album right yes sir
10:19
yes sir second second second the second
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album the second album second album y
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okay uh a lot of people like to say
10:26
third because we had a new style album
10:27
before that that's what I was think
10:29
thinking but I guess you're not trying
10:30
to erase that history but that wasn't a
10:33
Naughty by Nature album okay okay go
10:36
ahead I think cuz of the 1993 too was a
10:39
little it made it seem like the three 93
10:41
but it was 93 yeah okay so um hipop
10:45
paray now I'mma come back to that uh we
10:48
were talking to Rizza um yesterday he
10:50
said something really interesting to me
10:53
um as he was talking about his career um
10:56
he start yes got
10:59
okay good okay thank another another
11:01
former label mate of ours at Tommy Boy
11:03
as well that's what we talked about cuz
11:05
at that time he was Prince
11:09
Prince remember remember remember the
11:13
the limo ride we had when R the limo
11:15
ride we had with rer see we were label
11:17
mates right and again uh Tommy Boy was
11:20
promoting uh Prince rcking which was the
11:22
rizer so they asked him to uh asked us
11:25
to put him in the limo with us as we
11:27
were all doing promo RZ was so wild we
11:30
were in a limousine back then he stuck
11:32
his head out the limo and he's all over
11:35
the place
11:36
like but he did tell us he was like look
11:39
what I'm doing here Prince rockim this
11:41
Tommy Boy stuff this is cool but I got a
11:44
crew out of Staten Allen I'm coming I'm
11:46
coming and he was warning us about the
11:48
woo definitely this well Riz had a
11:51
question for y'all um and I'mma play it
11:54
back for you and he talked about the
11:55
limo ride too oh wow by Nature man what
11:59
I want to ask them is um always I never
12:03
really knew like who produced the Beats
12:07
really okay I mean I I never knew who
12:09
really produced the beats and came up
12:11
with all the songs so who's the one that
12:14
produced the beats and come up with all
12:15
the songs and I always cuz Vinnie didn't
12:18
rap that much on that first album so I
12:19
thought he was producing okay right I
12:22
know Kay was there but I just couldn't
12:24
really put my fing on it so question one
12:27
when did Vinnie started writing lycs
12:30
okay and question two who produced all
12:32
the Beats there it is all
12:36
right okay so question one when did I
12:39
actually start writing yeah it was
12:41
during the first album you know during
12:44
the first album definitely going into
12:45
the second album because originally I
12:48
was a beatbox and kg was a DJ so I used
12:52
to always beatbox for him while he
12:54
scratched but our first talent show we
12:56
needed an MC and TR was in my health
12:58
class every other day he would come with
13:00
a new rhyme I brought him over to K and
13:03
then that's how the group got started
13:05
but while I was still on the Block they
13:07
were putting together the first album
13:09
you know so I was never a rapper I was
13:12
out there holding it down well what was
13:13
you doing Vinnie well s
13:15
lollipop selling lollipop op you always
13:19
being an OP homie like I keep telling
13:22
him about this [ __ ] K like stop 30 years
13:25
ago you still try to get but it was
13:29
it was it was it was it was really all
13:32
teamwork you know and then how I even
13:34
got into rapping all the crew on a block
13:37
they like yo Vin your voice your voice
13:39
you got a dope voice you got to use your
13:41
voice and that's really how I got into
13:43
it but uh and then K you can answer the
13:46
beat part yeah well um the Beats was me
13:50
I did all of it okay yeah that was an
13:55
easy me same thing like like and that's
13:58
that's crazy that that that we're
14:00
talking about and that question is even
14:01
coming from rizer we were in on car ride
14:03
just now riding over here and we were
14:05
talking about the Wu tank story and
14:07
we're talking about um the rizer and um
14:10
all of that and just him and even me
14:12
personally watching that I see a lot of
14:14
myself in him yeah like and him and and
14:16
I was just telling one of my guys the
14:18
other day even the episode I saw with
14:19
him and um him and his girlfriend at the
14:21
time where she just was like yo it's
14:23
just too many long nights I can't take
14:25
this I'm out and it's just it hits home
14:28
because I with that like I've been with
14:30
my wife since I was 16 years old wow yes
14:33
yes come on give it up for black love
14:35
give it up for black love yes wow 16
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years old and she's she she's told me
14:42
and told friends of ours and just people
14:44
a lot of people just like she's had many
14:47
nights of just sitting in a room next to
14:49
me while I'm in there doing beats just
14:51
crying wow yeah so watching that I just
14:54
was like d this is I I can relate to
14:56
that what was going on in your mind
14:57
though like did you were you so focused
15:00
that you couldn't even consider her
15:01
emotions or feeling F I was just so
15:03
focused sway like like I like by any
15:06
means I just was just like yo this I
15:08
love it and it was just I was just at it
15:11
every day all day all night hip-hop
15:13
theme hip-hop theme all night wow that's
15:17
amazing man it is because it's funny
15:18
that you said that kg cuz the episode me
15:20
and horse was watching the other day
15:22
about RZ on the Hulu series with woo
15:25
like I don't know how you
15:26
compartmentalize sway asked R about it
15:29
yesterday but if you did all of naughty
15:31
Jan next when was it kg time ever like
15:36
how did you that's what it that's what
15:38
I'm saying it's just it's a sacrifice
15:39
you know like I don't know
15:45
H get back give him
15:50
Aug and you know what yeah I really
15:52
don't I really don't it's and then even
15:55
K got three kids and grandkids so he
15:57
found time for
16:01
well that was a point that was a point
16:03
but I mean I give you know a lot of
16:04
props to you know to my wife like like
16:06
cuz she dealt with that yeah like that's
16:08
hard I mean as women like it's hard to
16:10
deal with that yeah you know like you
16:12
said it's a lot of work that has to be
16:13
done a lot of time away you know we on
16:15
the road with touring it's a lot of
16:17
stuff that has to be done and it it's
16:19
not easy man and that's why I said like
16:21
watching that show and just watching the
16:23
r it's like yeah oh man I got to get
16:25
this I got to turn this album and I got
16:26
to do this I got to do that like
16:29
I mean I could I can I totally can
16:32
relate wow when do you think you
16:34
transition then because this has been 30
16:37
years and we often talk about how we're
16:39
in different seasons of Our Lives you
16:41
know you have like a Hustle season and
16:43
for some person it might be a year for
16:45
you it might be 20 years but when do you
16:47
think you transition where you are able
16:49
to now play like the role of a husband
16:52
more that was like you said that's when
16:54
I um well I have three kids I have three
16:57
kids it was like
16:59
around I don't know maybe like 99 mhm
17:04
and actually I end up leaving the group
17:05
that's why I end up leaving no by Nature
17:07
that was part of the reason why I left
17:09
got it to to try to get my personal
17:11
stuff together yeah so yeah like that
17:14
that point around 99 2000 all the way up
17:17
till I came back to na my nature so
17:19
that's when I yeah that's that that
17:21
point right there is when I I had to
17:23
really get my stuff together 10 years
17:25
sabatical yeah what was the other part
17:28
the other part said you left because of
17:29
family what the other parts well we had
17:32
a lot of like internal drama and and
17:35
outside forces within you know our whole
17:37
camp and everything that was going on
17:39
too and then then even with that too
17:41
like part of you know trying to juggle
17:45
like all those different things like you
17:47
said with j and all those different
17:48
groups I think that I it kind of not
17:53
sacrificed but naughty kind of paid the
17:55
price with it because we should have got
17:57
way more product
17:59
and more albs done if I could have
18:01
focused more on nauy by Nature instead
18:04
of spreading myself a little bit thin
18:06
trying to do a lot of outside stuff how
18:09
did that affect you though how did that
18:11
affect yall Dynamic well I I I saw what
18:14
was going on you know we started with
18:15
illtown records and we had rotten
18:18
Rascals then Jan then it was uh next and
18:22
Jahim so I saw what was going on as well
18:25
and something's got to give so NY was
18:27
lacking and it caused a bunch of tension
18:31
and you know even with that that was on
18:33
the R&B side so there was still a lot of
18:36
rappers around us and in our camp like
18:38
yo we need more hip-hop we need more
18:40
hip-hop and next thing you know it's
18:42
just a whole crap show man and you can't
18:44
you can't please everyone you know
18:46
illtown was y record label right yeah at
18:49
first yep yep wow man Mike
18:51
Muse Mike been waiting to get in there
18:53
look at he throwing stuff at
18:56
me no man it's such an honor to to talk
18:59
to you guys and to celebrate this and
19:01
when you guys are recanting your stories
19:03
about op and Hip Hop paray I just
19:05
remember being this young kid in laning
19:07
Michigan and when op would come on we
19:10
will all go crazy and I'm just wondering
19:12
you guys were so East Coast based and
19:14
Tri State when you went to the Midwest
19:17
and you saw the crowd respond I'm just
19:19
wondering what feeling did it give you
19:21
and then did you recognize how big you
19:23
were at that time and how far hip-hop
19:25
had made it yeah definitely but I tell
19:28
you what what I remember the first time
19:30
of us really going there we we had a
19:31
show in Joe Lewis arena in Detroit and
19:35
it was the wildest fight ever in an
19:37
arena yeah yeah theow oh the crowd yo
19:41
they they were in there like wow I
19:43
remember Kino telling me from with Roy
19:45
Kino saying he was there he said he was
19:47
like okay I was there yeah know it was
19:50
wow but it was it was crazy being from
19:53
New Jersey first and foremost cuz you
19:55
know hether back in the day if you
19:57
weren't from the five bir you couldn't
19:59
even be down with hipop and then just as
20:02
the 9s came in and we broke we
20:04
definitely got love from New York but
20:06
when we went about you know whether it
20:08
was Atlanta whether it was on the west
20:10
coast the Midwest we got so much love
20:14
but you know what was a reality check
20:16
remember K we were so hot everywhere we
20:19
went we went down to Florida and Uncle
20:21
Luke hired us for a show and I we
20:25
couldn't have been any hotter that was a
20:27
pack Jam joint yeah went down there to
20:29
perform for those Floridians they're
20:31
sitting there like they like get out
20:34
they're like nah dog and whoever came on
20:37
after us dropped some Miami Bas music
20:40
and they went crazy up in there we like
20:43
wow we got work to do in
20:46
Florida but what we did get a chance to
20:48
see you know once we started traveling
20:50
to different You Know Places just like
20:52
that you know it's kind of the same yeah
20:55
you know what I'm saying like it's kind
20:57
of the same and it's like you said like
20:59
rockim said it about it ain't where you
21:00
from it's where you at and you better
21:02
respect where you at come on yes you
21:05
better respect it you know DJ Quick said
21:07
everything is just like Compton yes
21:10
right right right right I wanted to um
21:12
jump in too to ask you guys with
21:14
everything that was going on especially
21:16
during that time in the 90s we weren't
21:18
really like big on Mental Health like
21:20
nobody talked about that and I got to go
21:22
to therapy I got to go to therapy but at
21:24
the same time you didn't hear about nauy
21:26
by nature in particular being drunk
21:29
being hot all messed up how did you deal
21:32
with all of the stuff that was going on
21:34
mentally I didn't really hear about
21:35
y'all having vices or y'all going out
21:38
and being sloppy and being this and that
21:39
how did you deal with it man I just
21:41
think I just think we've always been
21:42
handson so From the Block even financing
21:46
ourselves for a legit transition we
21:48
built this literally with our hands I
21:50
always like to refer to Danny aello and
21:52
do the right thing when they burnt down
21:54
this place like I built this with my
21:56
hands so when your hands on and no one
21:59
assembled you and no one tells you what
22:01
to do you're literally running your
22:03
business hands on and when you have that
22:05
kind of responsibility and then you
22:06
start growing families and you have
22:09
friends around you and then you
22:10
recognize a Flavor Unit A Tommy Boy you
22:13
know that's your support system you
22:15
don't want to let these people down
22:17
because they're they're taking their
22:18
time investing in you yeah that's big
22:23
1993 boom that's the name of the album
22:26
we celebrate in 30 years and I say it a
22:28
lot cens I I know I say it a lot but I
22:32
was there yes sir I was there and if you
22:37
do not believe me I'mma take you back to
22:42
February the
22:43
12th
22:46
1993 when TR venrock and kg came up to
22:51
the world famous wake up show almost 30
22:54
years to the date 30 years to theary
22:57
February
22:59
February 93 almost 30 years to the day
23:02
they came to San Francisco K and came on
23:05
our show yes sir and just like we do it
23:08
now we did it then if you come to the
23:12
show you got to kick Rhymes yes take
23:17
them
23:18
back
23:22
swinging bomit for
23:24
chronics Left Right a Sonic on the toxic
23:26
We R A Crazy cra like
23:29
onx titties and for Vagas no aage but a
23:33
ho is only getting from the greedy
23:35
living getting to the greedy now robing
23:37
in the hood and the good can't even see
23:39
me the GL gleaming and the St might make
23:41
the [ __ ] steing and believe me I'm about
23:43
to hit you with a hit G now that's how
23:45
it's supposed to be I leave you rolling
23:47
hoing swolling like the brand new being
23:48
show to me piece of dup the J to see I
23:51
tell you like a jerk dick come
23:53
on the face B whatever the place
23:56
whatever your RAC is you dis taking
23:58
faces NE your braces like a way back
24:02
like intact for sneak with fat laces
24:04
Rock from a hard block always hard to
24:06
stop my spot and harder to stop than but
24:09
I got what I get and you'll get what you
24:11
got if you Bo the lip a lot Dr this rock
24:14
so this the 193 the album that hits the
24:19
spot step from place with a face not in
24:22
in you keep tap I keep you in place I'm
24:24
picking on your weight picking on your
24:26
tape sticking on your M and getting all
24:28
Che hands up in
24:33
the come on man yo I remember that old
24:38
school 9s flavor yeah yo I remember that
24:42
bro I couldn't believe y'all was
24:44
spitting wow hey yo K would you tell
24:47
sway that's how we knew hip hop parade
24:49
was a hit right doing the KL Summer Jam
24:52
Y come on bro y I tell people about this
24:56
story all the time I just talked about
24:58
it today that's where that's where this
25:00
came from this whole thing was from the
25:03
Summer Jam that was all from this
25:04
created there oh that was improv yes it
25:07
was improv Dan the thing was the record
25:09
the record Tommy Boy hadn't even heard
25:11
that record yet yeah we had it in the
25:14
stash we were doing the Summer Jam and
25:17
we said let's try this record out
25:19
because we got a new record so we within
25:22
our Summer Jam Set We performed Hip Hop
25:24
aray for the very first time nobody
25:27
heard it nothing
25:29
and and that's where that
25:32
started and they called Tommy Boy right
25:35
after we left offage Keith nley Keith
25:37
nley called Tommy Boy and said hey NY by
25:40
Nature just performed a record if you
25:43
don't send me the original record I'm
25:45
playing the show record live on the
25:47
station wow kethley was the program
25:50
director go ahead go ahead go y so get
25:51
me that record at like ASAP ASAP Tommy
25:55
Boy called us like what are they talking
25:57
about so and this is what I would say to
25:59
a lot of new artists that was back in
26:01
the day when you would do new music
26:03
Discovery right so I think right now a
26:05
lot of new artist they just think oh I'm
26:07
going to post my stuff on the internet
26:09
or put it up on YouTube and people are
26:11
going to rock out to it you still got to
26:13
get back in front of these people go
26:14
club for Club perform these records then
26:17
let people discover you as an artist
26:19
discover the music and then that's the
26:21
best way to get them to follow you what
26:23
made y'all do San Fran I feel like you
26:25
would have premiered that somewhere over
26:26
here on the east
26:29
we were rolling yeah we were just
26:31
rolling and we like I said we were
26:32
booked we were just rolling we were on a
26:34
tour bus and that was one of our shows
26:36
that we had and one of the stops and
26:38
like I said it was impromptu we just was
26:40
like he let's let's let's perform hip
26:42
hop R tonight and we come from that
26:44
anyway we come from live performances
26:46
before we had records before we had
26:48
videos everything was live performance
26:51
and so we always come up with stuff till
26:54
this day right we improvised all the
26:56
time funny I had a conversation about
26:58
you all at a Grammy party with friend to
27:02
the show her so her had a Vogue party uh
27:06
during Grammy week she was on the cover
27:09
and so I didn't know who Keith was I was
27:11
just talking to this random guy and one
27:13
where led to another he found out I was
27:15
working with you s in the morning and
27:17
then he started talking about KL and we
27:18
started joking because I couldn't get
27:20
the lettering right but then he started
27:21
telling me all these great stories and
27:23
he actually mentioned Naughty by Nature
27:25
and Hip Hop paray I didn't know the
27:27
significance of the story so it was just
27:30
like a cocktail party conversation story
27:32
he was telling but he was saying how
27:34
important that station was uh hip hop
27:36
and he actually talked about you all but
27:38
I didn't know the significance of Hip
27:40
Hop until now how it all got started
27:43
with that was a freestyle yeah he's has
27:46
Radio Pro head of radio promo at RCA now
27:48
yeah he's at RCA y he Keith nfle is how
27:51
me King Tech and I got the radio that's
27:53
what he was telling me he was telling me
27:56
he was telling me the stories in
27:57
particular not my may know this but
27:59
there's I guess a Christmas rap that you
28:00
did s i he wanted me to ask you about
28:04
that yeah radio those
28:07
fils those by Nature knows about this
28:10
Christmas don't know about that they
28:12
don't know about that he wanted me to
28:13
ask I said I'm asking on a damn ke damn
28:16
ke well done mik Kei for industry
28:18
op uh real quick so that's funny so so
28:22
being that this is you know the
28:24
anniversary of Hip Hop aray the
28:26
significance of it ties right you know
28:29
very tightly with you and C that's crazy
28:33
because of sway it's all because of sway
28:36
Clapp it up for S thank you man can I
28:38
get another
28:40
hoodie yo those hoodies up man listen y
28:42
yo people stop me in the street
28:44
everywhere naughty about they come on
28:47
that's Vinnie you got to hit Vinnie if
28:48
you want your merch right all right so
28:50
listen I want to uh we got a a very
28:52
special first of all first of all I'm so
28:55
proud to even you for you to even say
28:59
that you know to even be a a part of
29:01
your legacy to have had these
29:03
experiences as young men 30 years ago we
29:06
don't know what's going to be 5 years
29:08
later right right and we done traveled
29:10
the world together you know we that was
29:13
a great
29:14
experience yes it we went to Iraq
29:17
together that was a very great
29:19
experience man yeah man and it was uh we
29:21
were out there too yeah big shout to DJ
29:24
scribble big shout to uh Vader from the
29:26
Wonder Twins Sonic too we had an awesome
29:30
time doing that um and and and so I'm so
29:33
proud of you of you all uh to continue
29:37
with this tradition of Excellence to
29:39
keep going living in your dreams living
29:41
in your passion the same way Rizza has
29:43
now expanded their brand and I watch you
29:46
guys have done this with the nauy by
29:48
Nature brand and I just want to say I'm
29:50
proud I'm happy to be a part of I can't
29:53
tell you how happy I am such a huge King
29:56
Tech and I have always been huge fans of
29:59
y'all thank you man for your music for
30:02
your skill set but for your
30:03
personalities who you are as human
30:05
beings right thank you this young lady
30:07
right here I went to Ghana at the front
30:09
of the a year this young lady right here
30:11
samarra osai assari she's
30:15
from well she lives in Ghana but she's
30:17
from the Bronx she's 10 years old uh
30:20
she's a journalist superar over in Ghana
30:23
right uh she has her own YouTube channel
30:25
it's called same time some Time s a m a
30:29
t i m e and she works for one of the
30:31
biggest youth Platforms in Ghana it's
30:34
called TV3 okay I want to introduce you
30:37
to kg the icon and Vin Rock The Legend
30:40
AKA Naughty by Nature I thought she can
30:43
ask y'all some
30:44
questions okay all right go ahead right
30:47
there that's your mic okay so my first
30:49
question how does it feel to be a part
30:52
of Hip Hop's history and being a part of
30:55
Hip Hop's birthday the 50th birthday oh
30:58
wow wow it it it it's great man hip-hop
31:01
music the whole culture you know it gave
31:04
disenfranchised people and poor people a
31:07
chance to pull themselves up by the
31:08
bootstrap so with starting with simple
31:10
graffiti break dancing DJing and rapping
31:13
now it's a multi-billion trillion dollar
31:16
industry so to play a part of it to
31:19
still live to see the growth of hip-hop
31:21
is a blessing wow yeah that's beautiful
31:26
man how are you you inspired and who
31:29
inspired you wow inspired by a lot of
31:32
forefathers and a lot of guys that came
31:34
before us from Sugar Hill Gang you know
31:37
the whole Sugar Hill label coming out of
31:39
Jersey um rund DMC big big huge fans of
31:43
Run DMC as we mentioned earlier boogie
31:46
down Productions
31:48
ks1 um Eric B Rock him salt and pepper
31:51
all of the guys that came before us we
31:53
sat there watching them and learning
31:55
from them Public Enemy learning from all
31:57
of those guys all of those different
31:59
groups and just trying to figure out
32:01
what they were doing how they were doing
32:02
it and trying to find our Niche and and
32:05
following their footsteps and make them
32:07
proud why did you choose to call your
32:09
group The Naughty nature Naughty by
32:11
Nature nauy naught well it was we were a
32:14
group called the new style first and we
32:16
had a song called Naughty by Nature as
32:19
the group the new style and then when it
32:21
came time for us to switch our name trch
32:24
said how about nauy by nature and we
32:26
were all standing out on the Street and
32:28
he just started pointing at everybody
32:30
out here he's Naughty by Nature he's
32:32
Naughty by Nature she's Naughty by
32:33
Nature we're all Naughty by Nature look
32:35
at us it'll be perfect for
32:38
us wow do you like the direction of how
32:42
hip-hop is going
32:43
now um I mean hip-hop always had the
32:47
good and the bad I think the direction
32:49
hip-hop is going is definitely a growth
32:53
vehicle but I do think some of the
32:56
violence in there some of the drug real
32:58
music you know people are setting
33:00
themselves up and then with these recoil
33:02
charges out here they're rounding up
33:04
people 20 30 at a time so I think our
33:07
young people have to be smarter about
33:09
the music they make the music they
33:11
create and the message they put out
33:13
there and I do have to get props to NBA
33:15
young boy there's a viral clip of him
33:18
recognizing you know what man I see all
33:21
of this music I made and I put this
33:23
music in people's ear how many lives am
33:26
I responsible for who threw their lives
33:29
away so I think a lot of times we have
33:31
to be patient with our young people
33:33
We're Young and we're Reckless at times
33:35
you know when we're coming up but life
33:38
and and life creates maturity and once
33:41
you get mature you able to have a
33:43
retrospect look back and say wow those
33:46
are mistakes but as long as you're able
33:48
to recognize it correct it and move
33:51
forward you can be forgiven so bear with
33:53
us people in young boy salute to you
33:56
young man come on
33:58
any one last question I have another two
34:00
questions okay go for it I want to know
34:03
what are some of the challenges that you
34:04
had to face becoming a legend o h
34:10
okay um some of the challenges coming
34:14
through um really just getting our stamp
34:17
down because you know the music the
34:20
music business has changed now where you
34:23
know you can you can just sit at home
34:25
and do your music or you can do whatever
34:27
ever or you can come up as whatever
34:30
through social media and then people
34:32
will give you a deal when we came out
34:34
you couldn't do that you had to make a
34:35
name for yourself you had to be in the
34:37
clubs you had to really really really
34:40
put your foot down and really really you
34:42
know develop yourself out there develop
34:44
the skill so it's it was a little bit
34:46
different at the time so yeah and
34:49
another challenge is trying to keep
34:51
everyone happy so once you're young and
34:53
you're
34:54
successful uh your hard work a lot of
34:56
people would like to stti claim to it
34:58
and say Hey you owe me it could be
35:00
family it could be friends it could be
35:02
colleagues so keeping that balance and
35:04
trying to keep everyone happy keep get
35:07
everybody to pay you your money back
35:09
when they borrow it from you and then
35:11
they get mad at you for asking for it
35:13
back you know all of those kinds of
35:15
things that's that's challenging keeping
35:17
that balance my last question do you
35:20
guys see yourself like say let's say
35:23
holding a concert in Ghana oh yeah We
35:27
performed in Ghana uh maybe around four
35:31
five years ago we did perform in Ghana
35:34
but with what we're doing with our new
35:35
illtown Sluggers Movement we be in Ghana
35:38
very soon yes see you there thank you
35:40
all right hey oah sorry you know what
35:44
sway we did bring one treat and since
35:46
she's a young lady bully if you would go
35:49
in that bag we have
35:51
1993 uh 30th Anniversary double album
35:55
vinyl so K and I will sign for her
35:59
later oh my God so you hold that and
36:01
we're going to sign it for you that's
36:04
amazing thank you all right what was it
36:07
like on that Grammy stage it wasn't you
36:10
know back then um they didn't even
36:12
recognize or respect hip hop so our uh
36:16
category um it wasn't even televised so
36:20
I remember going to the arena or
36:23
wherever it was as we got out the car
36:26
they were like you won and we're just
36:28
going to take you right to the Press we
36:30
never even went in the auditorium
36:32
actually actually we ran across bone
36:34
thongs and Harmony as we were walking in
36:36
bone were like hey congratulations you
36:38
guys won and we were like huh yeah y'all
36:40
won and wow okay then they they grabbed
36:44
us and just took us in the back and
36:45
start taking pictures speaking of which
36:47
big shout to Bone Thugs in harmony um is
36:50
another fun fact their song Crossroads
36:53
used the same sample as hip-hop
36:55
paray really speak on that yeah speak on
37:00
that one which one which one that's um
37:02
iy brothery Brothers say it again girl
37:05
say make me say it again girl y they
37:07
replayed it and um I sampled it but they
37:10
replayed it on their y didn't clear the
37:12
sample and they the eeles came and saw
37:14
us for that yeah yeah yeah did they that
37:17
at first at first I didn't clear the
37:18
sample and then they you know we worked
37:20
it out years later so they were really
37:21
cool with us so wey is like when you got
37:26
Ito what did Ron eisy hit you up well no
37:29
but not personally but his people did
37:32
his people yeah the Isley gangsters
37:35
yeah all right that's a jersey connect
37:38
too though too with t neck records yeah
37:40
yeah okay I can't see I can't wait to
37:43
see what's next man yeah we got the
37:45
whole slugg of Music going me and V okay
37:47
yeah so we got a slew artist and um like
37:50
like I mentioned bully is one of them
37:52
like he's in the chamber so we working
37:53
on that and then um also too we doing um
37:57
concerts out of New Jersey at the
37:59
Wellmont Theater we taking it back with
38:01
emerging new artists and breaking new
38:02
artists from performing and all that but
38:04
our first um Slugger on music concert
38:06
series obviously we're going to open it
38:08
up as illtown Sluggers me vin and
38:10
Slugger DJ Slugger so we're going to
38:12
open it up with a DJ hype set uhuh but
38:14
then we going to get into a performing
38:16
okay AZ a
38:19
AE a that's the homie yep we got AZ
38:23
performing we have aarie performing oh
38:25
man Y and then we have next performing
38:27
wow yes sir yes sir I gotta come out to
38:29
that man so yeah with this Slugger
38:31
movement you know it's a platform so you
38:33
know we're going to be putting on new
38:34
artists and what I feel is missing is
38:37
the live performance part everybody goes
38:40
to the dsps you want to stream your
38:42
music but you never performed the day in
38:43
your life so you know you got to get
38:46
those chops up so what we're doing
38:48
producing these concerts and giving
38:49
younger people a chance to open up for
38:51
that that's what it is man I love that
38:53
that's paying it for it right and then
38:55
stay and staying in your passion don't
38:56
stop exact R left yesterday and he
38:59
turned around he came back to me he said
39:01
hey are you still having fun and I
39:04
thought it was a beautiful question
39:06
right right cuz that's what we built
39:08
this on was fun as a matter of fact Sway
39:10
and Tracy I want to ask you guys you
39:12
know you guys have been doing this for
39:14
years you know how far we go back now
39:17
you see everyone in their grandmother
39:18
with a podcast do you think it's like
39:21
disrespectful to your craft and what you
39:23
took all of those years to learn or is
39:26
it just the Evol of the game purely I
39:30
love it I think it's the evolution of
39:32
the game it's more Outlet when we coming
39:35
up what we were doing was rare it was
39:37
unique it wasn't you know how it was rap
39:39
music wasn't being played in everyday
39:41
part and then we weren't getting
39:42
opportunities to be on the air and so my
39:45
my thing when King Tac and I came on the
39:46
air we really came on the air to create
39:48
more opportunities so as more
39:49
opportunities come we're happy for I'm
39:52
personally I'm happy for everybody in
39:53
the game it's up to them to rise to the
39:55
occasion you know it's some great
39:57
podcast and it's some that aren't so
39:59
great you know just like it's some great
40:01
radio shows and it may be some that
40:03
aren't so great so um I think the uh
40:06
cream rise to the top uh I enjoy it I I
40:10
love seeing people getting excited I
40:11
like seeing Mayo sit down and doing his
40:14
his podcast I like seeing math Hofer
40:17
finding a new way to express themselves
40:19
you know and expanding their brands uh
40:22
we seen Nory do reinvent himself you
40:24
know what I mean with drink Champs and
40:26
efn and those my guys you know so I'm
40:28
happy for them you know so uh wallow you
40:32
know Gilly come on man we know them
40:34
dudes yeah you know major figures man
40:36
you know what I mean I look at Gilly now
40:38
so how could you not be happy for that
40:41
but there's a lot of saturation as it is
40:43
in every field just like yeah so uh and
40:46
the ones um that earn it and bring
40:48
something different to the table they
40:49
shall rise right but as far as Vinnie
40:52
the other thing
40:54
is there I don't compare anything that
40:57
any of folks who came after us do cuz
41:00
it's no comparison no no comparison at
41:03
all no comparison BR y'all go eat and
41:06
win Tracy how you feel I feel the same
41:09
way I think that because it's called a
41:11
podcast and it's not called radio having
41:14
new language for these new Expressions
41:16
helps us to differentiate I think the
41:19
way we have just as many people in this
41:21
world is just how many opinions and
41:23
audiences there can be which I think has
41:26
been really beautiful ALS just looking
41:27
at Independent Artists and you're like
41:29
whoo I've never heard of you but this
41:31
person's a millionaire even though
41:32
they're not on mainstream so I think it
41:36
connects us more there are you know some
41:39
frustrating aspects I would say I've
41:41
heard people talk about how it's much
41:43
easier for a celebrity to get a platform
41:46
and get looked over than somebody who
41:48
maybe went to school who's just been on
41:50
the grounds really trying to um shape a
41:53
career but I think that comes from a
41:55
scarcity mindset again again too there's
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so many people and we have more access
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to each other than ever before so try it
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out I may not listen to every single
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podcast but that's because not every
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single podcast is meant for me right and
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not everyone you know going to be a dope
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record well I said all have to say I
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said all have to say get ready for Uncle
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Vinnie's
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podcast bab come on do it baby do it
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baby no I'm not doing that I'm not doing
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that all right but I take from all of it
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that you answered riz's question that
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you're still having fun I'm still having
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fun bro this is fun man I get this get
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you know bully Boy Fresh you know
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somebody who's fresh to the scene and my
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brothers who we've been doing this
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forever you know and so me and keing
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Tech have always done it our way what
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you guys did man that was trailblazing
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though definitely man you know to do
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that and all that everybody now is doing
42:52
it but bottom line man you punks out
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there better respect the OG's
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all that's all I'm saying don't get hurt
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all right yo I love y'all big Round of
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Applause by Nature yo I got a shout out
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T too you know that's yeah yeah yeah
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yeah we're celebrating this is about
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celebration man we're celebrating all
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three of us trch include it me vin and
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TR we are Naughty by Nature we are a
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group you know and that's what it's
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about we're celebrating 30 Years of Hip
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Hop aray it's Naughty by Nature and like
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I said nauy by nature is all three of us
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tretch included there you go man I
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appreciate that and then Samar thank you
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for coming by tomor s Sarah oh we have
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to sign her vinyl y got to sign her
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vinyl go off and be great all right uh
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we'll be back next week y'all stay on
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the right side of positivity let's end
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it with a naughty classic from the 1993
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album gentlemen thank you man it was
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amazing all right okay and on that note
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citizens thank you for tuning in all
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week and we have
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nothing left to say
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