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Mental health is just as important as physical health, and today we are joined by a true expert to break it all down. Clinical mental health counselor David Webber joins the show to share his wisdom on overcoming overthinking, dealing with heavy grief, and letting go of the pressure to hit arbitrary life milestones.
In this deep dive, David discusses the emotional moment he returned a 34-year-old jersey to Grant Hill and what that meant for his family legacy. We then transition into a powerful call-in segment where David provides free therapy to listeners facing real-world struggles. You will hear life-changing advice for overthinkers who find themselves paralyzed by fear, as well as a heart-wrenching conversation with a listener named Trophy about navigating the guilt and pain following the loss of a spouse.
David also tackles the common struggle of feeling like a failure when life doesn't look the way you planned it at seventeen. He reminds us that societal pressures and social media comparisons are often the root of our unhappiness. This episode is a call to practice more self-compassion, embrace gratitude in the present moment, and understand that your path is unique to you.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction to David Webber
1:30 The Grant Hill Jersey and Legacy
3:45 Emotional Intelligence and Communication
5:45 How to Stop Overthinking and Procrastinating
9:30 Navigating Grief and Releasing Guilt
13:15 Men's Mental Health and Seeking Help
15:45 Honoring the Memory of Titus Warley
17:15 Letting Go of Life Deadlines and Comparisons
19:30 The Power of Gratitude and Self Compassion
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All right, glad to have him here, man.
0:02
He's a star athlete as well as Central
0:04
Michigan University, producer, singer,
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but right now he's here as a master's
0:09
degree clinical mental health counselor
0:12
from Northwest. We got the one and only,
0:15
the inventor is of the "Oh Oh My
0:18
Therapist" way.
0:20
>> [applause]
0:21
>> David Webber is here, citizens, man.
0:23
What's up, man?
0:24
>> up?
0:25
How y'all doing? Excellent, man.
0:28
Um
0:29
I'm going to let Heather start today.
0:30
Let's jump right into it.
0:31
>> First and foremost, I want to say
0:32
congratulations to you and and Chris. I
0:35
saw y'all on Instagram. Chris seems to
0:37
have a new show out. I saw you giving
0:39
Grant Hill the jersey back he gave to
0:42
you as a kid.
0:42
>> Yeah, yeah, Chris has a new show. It's
0:44
called The Chris Webber Show.
0:46
Uh it's a new podcast he has. It's very
0:47
dope. Uh Grant Hill gave me a jersey
0:49
when I was 12. Wow.
0:51
>> they won a national championship that
0:52
year. And uh he knew I was a fan. He
0:54
gave me he gave me his jersey and so I
0:56
gave the jersey back 34 years later to
0:59
say thank you. I appreciate him. I
1:00
wanted him to give the jersey to his to
1:01
his family, his children, so he can
1:04
leave a legacy for them. That's really
1:05
dope.
1:06
>> Yeah, they Did you see David crying?
1:08
Yeah.
1:08
>> [laughter]
1:10
>> That's all you got out of that?
1:12
You're terrible, man.
1:14
You're cool, man. Thank you, man.
1:16
>> [laughter]
1:17
>> It's been a lot. I was impressed that
1:19
you kept it in such pristine condition
1:21
and in pristine condition in 34 years.
1:24
>> 34 years, yeah. I wasn't playing about
1:25
that jersey. When Chris would every when
1:27
he would go, you know, to games and play
1:29
against certain people, I would tell him
1:31
who's, you know, I want Isaiah Thomas
1:33
jersey, I wanted Muggsy Bogues shoes, I
1:35
wanted Shaq shoes, like and so he would
1:37
do that for me, you know, and but
1:39
Grant's was special because Grant was
1:41
looking out for me specifically, you
1:43
know what I'm saying? And so shout out
1:44
to Grant Hill and his family. He's a
1:46
great person, man, and I really admire
1:48
him a lot. That's dope. I just I wanted
1:50
to just compliment you guys on that. It
1:52
was really good and I'll definitely be
1:53
tuned into the show.
1:54
>> No doubt, thank you.
1:56
Uh Heather and I had a healthy argument
1:58
today. Here we go.
1:59
>> About uh, she couldn't reach me.
2:02
And um, it really upset her. Mhm. And it
2:07
was
2:08
basically it was just a
2:09
miscommunication. She called me, I
2:11
didn't see the missed call, I hit her
2:13
back later in the day.
2:14
It really upset her.
2:16
When you have friends who are like
2:18
really like siblings, the whole nine,
2:21
um,
2:22
and they get so emotionally attached
2:24
because something didn't go their way.
2:27
Um,
2:28
you know, I chose not to react to her in
2:32
the way that she reacted to me. Would
2:34
you say that I had the most emotional
2:36
intelligence in this dynamic?
2:38
>> If that story is true, then you know,
2:41
then that's some pretty good emotional
2:42
intelligence.
2:44
It So, yeah. So, I mean, if it's true,
2:46
then that was pretty good.
2:47
>> All right, thank you. We're going to go
2:48
to the phone [laughter] lines. Debbie
2:49
Weber is here. I'll have my time. I'll
2:52
have my time with the therapist.
2:53
>> 888-742-3345.
2:56
Really, he's a licensed therapist. Um,
2:59
and definitely this is a good way to get
3:01
into the fold of things. You know, if
3:04
you never had therapy, this is a good
3:06
way to try it. You know, this is a trial
3:08
error for you. You can call up and get
3:10
it for free. Most therapists have a
3:12
healthy hourly um, fee that they charge.
3:15
>> Absolutely. Right? Well, we going to
3:16
give it to you for free.
3:18
Let it all go. Let those inhibitions go.
3:20
888-742-3345.
3:23
What's your question? We got Nikki from
3:25
Detroit on the line. Nikki, how you
3:27
doing, Nikki?
3:27
>> What up, though?
3:29
Hey, Nikki. Hey, hey guys. How you
3:31
doing? What's going on? My second time
3:33
getting in. Thank you for allowing me to
3:36
speak.
3:37
Yeah. What up, though?
3:39
Well, Dr. Weber, this is the question.
3:42
Uh, my name is Nikki. I am from Chicago
3:45
living here in Detroit starting a new
3:47
business and positioning comedy just
3:50
basically changing my whole life from
3:53
the path that I was on before. My
3:55
question is is how to operate within my
3:59
fear positivity
4:01
without allowing it to continuously
4:04
stifle and procrastinate my progress
4:08
because I know that what I have built,
4:12
once I get it going, it can be very
4:14
successful.
4:16
Um
4:17
you know, starting comedy it's
4:19
important to build these relationships
4:22
and this and that and I know that I am,
4:24
for the lack of better words, a very
4:26
eclectic person with my personality. I'm
4:29
I'm sweet, I'm kind, but you know, I'm a
4:32
little off due to life trauma and this
4:35
and that and I understand that. I also
4:37
understand that um
4:40
the lack of confidence and self-esteem
4:43
that I still hold from a lot of that,
4:45
which I feel um activates this
4:49
procrastination and and and stagnation
4:52
in my
4:54
progression of this, you know, cuz right
4:56
now I am at a standstill to where my
5:00
next step should be doing a test run of
5:02
my business and with all of the
5:06
attention and everything that's been
5:09
coming around me and this concept, I'm
5:12
starting to get kind of afraid of not
5:14
only succeeding, but getting to a
5:17
certain extent and then allowing it to
5:19
crash again cuz this wouldn't be the
5:21
first time in my life that this
5:23
happened.
5:24
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate your
5:25
question for for any overthinkers, uh I
5:28
give the same advice and that is
5:30
thinking isn't the answer for you.
5:33
All overthinkers think that thinking the
5:35
problem through, trying to figure out
5:38
the problem is the answer, but for
5:39
overthinkers, the answer is not
5:41
thinking, if that makes any sense. The
5:43
answer is literally just doing. And if
5:45
you make a mistake, then you do it
5:47
again. And if you make another mistake,
5:48
you do it again. But for And I'm an
5:50
over-thinker as well, right? So, I can
5:51
over-think my outfit that day. I can
5:53
over-think what I'm going to say on the
5:55
radio right now, right? And so, when I'm
5:57
in that stage, the first thing I do is
5:59
say, "I'm just going to
6:01
write down everything I wanted to
6:03
[laughter] say. Exactly.
6:05
I understand. So, that's what I'm
6:06
saying. So, for us over-thinkers, the
6:08
best thing we can do is not think. The
6:10
best way to shut your brain off, put
6:12
your phone down, and just do the thing,
6:14
right? Like getting on the Instagram,
6:16
that's terrible for us over-thinkers. Um
6:18
talking to friends about the problem,
6:19
that's terrible for us over-thinkers. Uh
6:22
going to our mentor, going to That's
6:24
horrible for over-thinkers because we're
6:26
We got this person's opinion, that
6:27
person's opinion. This person thinks we
6:28
should go left, this person thinks we
6:30
should go right. And the And And for us
6:33
over-thinkers specifically, it's not
6:35
about the thinking. It's not about
6:36
solving the problem before the problem
6:38
comes. It's about just doing the thing,
6:41
and the problem will solve itself.
6:43
Okay, Nikki. You get
6:45
There you go, Nikki. That's what you
6:46
needed. with me hard when he said do not
6:49
speak to mentors and seek advice cuz
6:52
that must been the main issue that I've
6:55
been going wrong the whole time. Thank
6:57
you so much for that. Guys, thank you so
6:59
much. Hey, Sway. You better leave
7:03
uh have a loan over there. And don't be
7:04
talking about men just crying. We need
7:07
some more emotionals out here. Thank
7:09
you.
7:12
You thinking way too much, Nikki. Wow.
7:14
>> Follow David Weber's advice. You're a
7:16
citizen, all right? Sway in the morning.
7:18
Love you, Nikki.
7:19
We got a Trophy on the line from Cali.
7:21
Trophy, how you doing?
7:22
>> Trophy. Trophy. Hi. Good morning. Good
7:25
morning, everybody.
7:27
>> Good morning.
7:28
>> What part of Cali are you from?
7:30
I'm from Los Angeles. You guys actually
7:33
had me on the radio before you play my
7:35
song sometimes on Wednesday. Um Mhm.
7:39
Getting the game.
7:40
Yes, thank you so much. I
7:43
you guys for that. My husband actually
7:46
helped me to get that out there, you
7:48
know, on the major platforms and
7:50
everything, but on March 29th my husband
7:53
took his life in our home and he was 35
7:57
years old and he served our country for
8:00
10 years. He was a beautiful, beautiful
8:02
man. And we were having a spat. We were
8:06
having a little like every married
8:08
couple does. We were having an issue.
8:10
But I never expected this, you know, so
8:14
Yeah.
8:14
I just my my question is, I guess
8:18
how do I stop from feeling guilty
8:20
because I I could have been a lot nicer
8:23
that day of and the day before cuz I
8:25
never saw this coming.
8:28
Yeah. Well, first let me say I'm I'm
8:31
sorry for your loss, number one.
8:32
>> Yeah. And number two,
8:35
it's it's not your fault. I work with
8:37
people who deal with suicidal ideation
8:39
every single day. I'm not making this
8:41
up. This is every day. I'm working with
8:43
children or adults who are having
8:45
thoughts of harming themselves. And it's
8:47
never one thing.
8:48
So it wasn't the argument. It wasn't
8:51
it's never one thing. It's usually a
8:54
combination of a whole bunch of stuff.
8:57
And also the fact that the person feels
8:58
like life would be easier without
9:01
emotional pain.
9:02
Right? So whatever the pain is, whatever
9:04
the issue is, the person feels like the
9:06
only way I can get rid of the pain is to
9:09
end my life.
9:10
Right? So it's not that people
9:11
necessarily want to die. They don't want
9:14
to feel the pain. And in that moment,
9:17
the best way that person knows how to
9:19
deal with pain is by ending their life.
9:21
It had nothing to do with something you
9:24
did specifically or something someone
9:26
else did specifically. Normally, it's
9:28
always a combination of a whole bunch of
9:30
things, things I didn't accomplish,
9:32
things I wanted to do, something that
9:34
happened 20 years ago, you know, and
9:37
also too, people people deal with
9:39
depression for things they will never
9:40
tell you about. There's certain things
9:42
you would never know. They'll never
9:43
express it to you and
9:44
specially with men.
9:46
Men men we
9:48
we don't express things very well,
9:49
right? Like we don't tell you how we
9:51
feel. So
9:53
I remember this one person I had many
9:55
many many years ago
9:57
who
9:58
always presented the exact same way.
10:00
Every time we spoke presented the exact
10:03
same way. Always cool, always happy,
10:06
always joyful. And then one day he tried
10:08
to harm himself, right? I had no idea
10:11
and I'm trained to do this and I had no
10:13
clue. So my point is there's nothing
10:15
that you did specifically, number one.
10:17
And for all the men out there especially
10:20
who are dealing with really difficult
10:22
things in your life, I would say please
10:24
get help. Please reach out to somebody.
10:26
You don't have to do this alone.
10:28
Exactly. It's like even even if I would
10:31
have talked him off the ledge, he had
10:33
caught me on video phone with the gun to
10:36
his head and I was trying to say every
10:38
word that I could to stop him and talk
10:41
him down. And it's like even if he
10:43
wouldn't have did it, it still would
10:44
have changed the dynamic of our marriage
10:47
seeing him like that. Because now I'm
10:49
like I got to get him help. Is he going
10:51
to do it again? And it's just like so
10:53
much going through my mind. But I
10:55
appreciate you taking the time out to
10:57
speak with me.
10:59
Um Trophy, if you don't mind me asking
11:02
David Weber about this and maybe Trophy
11:04
doesn't need it, but for other people
11:06
who have
11:07
watched someone commit suicide or
11:09
dealing with that, how do they get help
11:12
then? Because we have a conversation
11:14
about being triggered, you know? Um
11:17
does Trophy now need to go maybe seek
11:19
counseling in some way?
11:21
>> Yeah, she brought up a great point about
11:22
the guilt. Right? Like the people carry
11:24
guilt as if as if it were their fault
11:27
because they may think about to an
11:28
argument they had or last conversation
11:29
they had. But again, the reality is it
11:32
it truly is not your fault. I promise
11:34
you that person is going through some
11:36
really deep emotional pain. Please hit
11:38
me up on Instagram. I can talk to you
11:40
off air and try to get you some help in
11:42
your area.
11:44
That's David Weber
11:46
LPC. Hit me up. I'll hit you back today
11:48
to get you some help, all right? And
11:49
then Trophy, can you
11:51
let's let's let's let's signify. Say his
11:53
name three times.
11:57
My husband's name?
11:58
Yeah, if you don't mind. Um,
12:01
Titus Warley, Titus Warley, Titus
12:04
Warley.
12:06
Okay, I see. And then can you tell us
12:08
something
12:10
that people would don't know about him
12:12
that you admired or something that was
12:14
special about him.
12:16
That he brought into the world.
12:18
>> My husband would rub my feet every night
12:21
when I got out the shower and he was
12:23
very upset cuz he just got out the army.
12:25
He became a train conductor. He got laid
12:28
off and he's like, I can't buy you
12:30
flowers anymore and it was bothering him
12:32
that he couldn't provide, but I'm a
12:34
hustler. I'm like, baby, don't worry
12:36
about that. I got us. But he didn't want
12:39
me to be out there working and stuff and
12:41
it He was just such a wonderful man. Our
12:44
home was like something off of Homes
12:47
magazine. We had a pool with green grass
12:49
and everything was just beautiful and he
12:52
He was just a wonderful husband and
12:54
father and everything above. Like he I
12:57
I've never met a man like him. He's the
12:59
best man I ever had in my life. So to
13:03
lose him was
13:04
definitely a big loss for me.
13:07
>> [applause]
13:07
>> But I'm glad you got a chance to
13:09
experience him in in his best form. And
13:12
thank you for sharing. I think you're
13:13
brave and strong to call this show and
13:16
share that with us. And I hope we've
13:17
been a help to you, Trophy. God bless
13:20
you and your family. You all are
13:22
citizens, okay?
13:25
May God continue to shine his light on
13:27
you guys, too. Thank you, guys. Thank
13:30
you. Thank you. Wow.
13:32
Wow, that's that's
13:34
I've seen that. I've seen that swing a
13:36
lot. I've seen it a lot. Yeah. So, I
13:39
man, that's really tough.
13:40
>> You You guys, once again, David Weber
13:42
_LPC.
13:44
That's how you reach him. We're going to
13:45
take one more call. Benjamin's on the
13:47
line from Indiana. How you doing,
13:48
Benjamin? Hey, Benny. I'm all right. How
13:51
y'all doing today?
13:52
Excellent. Talk to us.
13:55
I'm a little salty, uh
13:56
um I didn't get all about the Benjamins
13:58
for a hot second.
14:00
>> [laughter]
14:00
>> Oh, okay.
14:03
But, I
14:03
>> That was a fake laugh, by the way. That
14:05
was a fake laugh. I [laughter] knew it.
14:06
Mhm.
14:08
That was a head but she always says when
14:10
I call.
14:11
But, um
14:12
I was just asking, um
14:14
like I'm 37, right? So, at 17, you you
14:18
make plans until you make plans for the
14:20
rest of your life, right?
14:22
And 20 years later,
14:25
I didn't make I'm falling short of those
14:26
plans, right? So,
14:29
how do I navigate that thought? Like, I
14:31
know personally I failed
14:34
in in reaching the reaching those goals.
14:36
You know, like, okay, so I was in the
14:38
Air Force at 17. So, my thought at 37
14:41
was to have my own command, where
14:43
Central Command, Imperial Command, or if
14:46
not, I got my own state. I'm running my
14:48
own state. I'm a governor somewhere.
14:50
I'm not not even close.
14:52
So,
14:54
knowing those big audacious plans that
14:56
you have in life and coming up short
14:58
when those dates come up, how do you
15:00
navigate that thought process to move
15:03
forward and still
15:04
attack life at that
15:07
with that mindset and that
15:09
ferocity, I guess you would call it,
15:12
to to make
15:12
>> Yeah.
15:14
make it work.
15:15
>> Yeah, let me say
15:16
let me say this is this is cuz this is
15:17
not just for you. This is for myself and
15:20
anyone else who struggles with that
15:21
specifically. First off, you didn't
15:23
fail.
15:24
You didn't fail.
15:25
There were some arbitrary dates and
15:28
arbitrary
15:30
um you know, things that you want to
15:31
accomplish and you set those dates
15:35
and you didn't accomplish those things
15:37
by those dates. But who says that those
15:39
dates were the
15:40
is the date, right? Like who like if I
15:43
say I want to be the the you know, the
15:45
president of the United States by the
15:46
time I'm 50, like where did I come up
15:48
with that number? And why and why does
15:50
that number hold so much significance
15:52
for me? Does that make sense? Like so to
15:54
to to come up with the number or a time
15:57
that a time frame that you created, no
15:59
one else created that time frame. You
16:01
created that time frame. And to not
16:03
succeed by that time frame is unfair to
16:06
you because we would never do that to
16:08
somebody else. I would never look at
16:10
someone else and say, "Yeah, by the time
16:11
you're 30, you should be the top
16:13
neurosurgeon in the world." Like where
16:14
did that come from?
16:15
>> Right. You get what I'm saying? So the
16:17
So the reality is you did not fail. You
16:20
did not fail. And if there are things
16:22
that you still want to accomplish, you
16:23
can still go after those things. But but
16:25
I think all too often, especially men,
16:28
we do this thing where we come up with
16:29
time frames. I want to be this by I'm
16:31
going to be a millionaire. I hear that
16:32
all the time. I'm going to be a
16:33
millionaire by the time I'm 25. I hear
16:35
that so much so much from young people,
16:38
you know? And so they came up with a
16:39
number, the number being 25. And so when
16:42
they don't achieve that, they feel how
16:43
you feel. So I I would encourage you um
16:47
to to to be more compassionate to
16:49
yourself. That whatever time frame you
16:52
create for yourself is it necessarily a
16:55
fair time frame. And that also you can
16:57
also still achieve still achieve your
16:59
goals.
17:00
>> Mhm. Mhm. I like that, man. You How you
17:03
feel about that that information,
17:05
Benjamin? You're doing great, by the
17:06
way.
17:07
Yeah, where do we come up with these
17:09
numbers?
17:14
We In my personal opinion, we we
17:16
societal pressures, uh our friends, we
17:19
compare ourselves to other people.
17:21
Instagram has had a really big impact on
17:24
on younger people as far as where I
17:26
should be by this point in my life.
17:28
So-and-so has a Ferrari, so-and-so is
17:29
doing this, so-and-so is the governor,
17:32
so-and-so right so-and-so is the mayor.
17:33
We we do these things to ourselves. And
17:36
that's why I say including myself, I I
17:38
try I do get on Instagram you know
17:40
throughout the day a little bit, but I
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try to stay off of it because at 46
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years old now, I start doing the same
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thing. I'm comparing myself to other
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people. He's 40 years old, he got this
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going on or she's doing this and they
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got these books out and they're doing
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this and it's just not healthy. The
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reality is
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my path is my path.
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>> Yeah, period. It's just mine.
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Yeah, you go Benjamin. You're doing
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great, okay?
18:04
You know, what's that old saying? You
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want to you want to make God laugh? You
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want to hear God laugh? Tell him your
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plans. Tell him your plans.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You see That's the real laugh right
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there, by the I said that the other day
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about that. Like man, like I had a
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little health issue and I'm like damn,
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like I think it's God's funny way of
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telling me I ain't got no choice but to
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work out now.
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Now. There you go. Like if I don't
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like it's going to be harder, you know?
18:32
Yeah. And you got to hang in there, too,
18:34
Benjamin. I mean you listen to the show,
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you heard me talk about from the time I
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was a kid that I would be living in
18:40
California. Like it took 50 years for
18:44
that to happen. Like real talk. So,
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imagine if I would have given up. I
18:49
don't you don't never know when that
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blessing is right there at your
18:52
doorstep, right at your footstep. I
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think the goal is to hang in there. And
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you know, like I didn't put a time limit
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on it, but I knew in direction I wanted
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to go.
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>> That's it. That's how I navigated it.
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Just hang in there, bro.
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>> Stop judging yourself. That part. That's
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it. I did that on my my birthday was was
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April 5th and and on on my birthday
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>> just passed?
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>> yeah. I just turned 46. Thank you. I
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appreciate that, man.
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Thank y'all.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Yeah, and I was in the house singing. I
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was in the house um
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cleaning my house on my birthday. That's
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all I did my whole birthday. I didn't
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leave the house. I didn't go nowhere.
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And I experienced what he experienced.
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That moment of man, I'm 46. I ain't got
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no wife. I ain't got no kids, man. I'm
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in the house by myself cleaning the
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house on my birthday. And I for about 10
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minutes I said, "Hold on.
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Wait. Actually, I want to clean my
19:42
house. Actually, you know what I mean?
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Actually, this is exactly where I want
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to be right now."
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>> GOT A HOUSE.
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>> [laughter]
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>> YOU KNOW? THERE YOU GO, RIGHT?
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SO, I'M I'M AND I AND I I TURNED IT
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AROUND. LIKE I JUST I just practiced
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gratitude that moment. I'm like, "Thank
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you. I'm glad I'm here in this moment
19:58
and those things are going to come.
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They're still going to come. I'm still
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going to get my wife. Still going to get
20:02
my children somehow. Even got to adopt
20:03
them. I'm going to get my children. I'm
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going to get my wife and everything
20:06
else. But, you know what? I'm happy in
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this moment cleaning my house. I clean
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When I said I clean so good. Oh, my.
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Cleaned that tub so good Lady Lady David
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Weber is a cleaner, too. And a crier.
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A cleaner [laughter] and a crier. A
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cleaner and a crier. He'll give you both
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C's all in one day.
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Um yo, Ben Benjamin, thank you for this
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call. I hope this helped you out.
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>> Yeah, man. Hit up David Weber directly
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at
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>> Yes, David Weber _LPC on Instagram.
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>> You're a citizen, Benjamin.
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>> That's what I mean, man. All citizens
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that's been calling, thank you for
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sharing. Hit up David Weber once again.
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>> David Weber _LPC. Appreciate y'all. All
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right, man. David Weber, you don't want
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to move.
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