Bow Wow Talks Fatherhood, Mental Health & Evolution đď¸ | SWAYâS UNIVERSE
Jan 30, 2026
Bow Wow joins Sway In The Morning for an exclusive interview, sharing heartfelt insights on fatherhood, mental health, and his remarkable evolution in the entertainment industry. From being the youngest artist to achieve a platinum album to navigating life as a dad, Bow Wow reflects on his personal growth, the importance of self-care, and balancing fame with family. Hear him discuss his dynamic relationship with his daughter, the lessons learned from his legendary career, and how he manages stress while staying grounded. He also opens up about his upcoming Boys for Life Tour with B2K and the enduring impact of timeless music. Donât miss this candid and inspiring conversation showcasing Bow Wow's journey and wisdom gained along the way. Subscribe for more exclusive interviews and join the conversation with Swayâs Universe! #BowWow #Fatherhood #MentalHealth #SwayInTheMorning #BoysForLifeTour #HipHop #LifeLessons
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Bow Wowâs Accomplishments
01:13 - Bow Wowâs Transition from Child to Adult Star
06:27 - Bow Wowâs Name Change
09:19 - Mental Health Awareness
13:54 - Managing an Artist's Career
15:44 - Relationships and Women
18:15 - Omarion and Bow Wow Reconcile
20:15 - BET Awards Reunion: Omarion and Bow Wow
25:50 - Boyz II Men Sound and Music Landscape
29:48 - Tracy from New York City Joins the Conversation
30:33 - Overcoming Personal Struggles
32:40 - Apologizing to Friends
37:05 - Never Taking a Seat in Your Career
37:33 - Financial Tips for Artists
42:52 - Shaquitaâs Birthday Request
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Yo, let me tell you something, man. I
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And I know we see this man in a lot of
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different spaces, whether it's in social
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media, uh, whether it's on the movie
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screen, is on the TV screen,
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>> and and you might see him in a little
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bit of controversy from time to time,
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>> little bit,
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>> man. Might be battling somebody or
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>> little bit
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>> internet internet boxing, you know.
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>> You ain't never see me do that.
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>> Yeah. You ain't going to do no internet
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boxing?
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>> Hell no.
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>> Okay. [laughter]
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What you mean by that? You a
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>> If I do, that's when it's down. It's
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down. It's down bad. I rather call you
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for a long sway. If I see these
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celebrity boxes, it it get [laughter] it
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get to that level.
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>> That's where you draw the line.
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>> I call you.
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>> You going to call me? Hey, if you ever
0:40
have to call me, I got you.
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>> I'm call you for [laughter] sure.
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>> Cuz I don't know what happened. You've
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been making money since 9 what? You
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know, I mean, you know, you were the
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youngest at the time to ever have a
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platinum album.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Right. Crazy.
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>> Ain't that something?
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>> The youngest in history. Yeah.
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>> The youngest in in history now.
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>> In history. the youngest in history to
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accomplish a platinum album.
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>> You can read some of these other
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accolades.
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>> Get those accol.
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>> That was a double platinum album by the
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way. We talking
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>> it's four times now.
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>> It's four times now.
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>> Four times.
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>> Are you wearing it though?
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>> Got certified last year. Yeah. Four
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times.
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>> Four times platinum debut album. Uh
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youngest they hit a number one uh hit
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single in the US rap charts with Bounce
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with Me. uh sold over
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>> I know this is about 15 million albums
1:24
and digital assets worldwide across his
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career. So crossover into film when
1:29
people wasn't really doing it like that
1:31
like Mike. This dude was in like Mike.
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>> I was like Mike. No I am like Mike.
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>> You are like Mike.
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>> Yeah that's crazy.
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>> That is crazy.
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>> It is crazy.
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>> Come on man. He was in Ro Bounce the
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Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift lottery
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ticket which is a classic. Um he did he
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then he started hosting and doing what
1:51
what I do and and put me to shame with
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[laughter] 106 at Park. You know what I
1:56
mean? I was like I have to go back to
1:57
hosting school after this man came on
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full of uh just amazing energy has a
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great understanding of the business and
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I just want to say I'm I'm mean
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regardless of all you know I see you get
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into a lot of um every now and then
2:11
there some social media thing. Was he
2:13
really on the plane?
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>> Yeah. I've been good for like the past
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like six, seven years. I've been
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chilling.
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>> You've been chilling.
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>> The kids the kids.
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>> Is that intentional?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Very.
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>> Okay.
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>> And we're just aging time. You know what
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I'm saying? A lot of [clears throat]
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things that I was I was,
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>> you know, into, you know, I just learned
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like
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>> it's weird like every year
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>> something changes. So, it's like now I'm
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I'm out of my club phase where like
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>> I really don't enjoy the club anymore.
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>> You don't enjoy the club?
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>> No. So, that's blasphemous. clubs all
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over the world are like crying right
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now.
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>> Yeah, I know. But I' I've done them.
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It's like
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>> just where I'm at.
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>> It's like I I don't know. I just I'm
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like I might be one of the rappers that
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just
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>> I party. Don't get it. Don't listen. I
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party.
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>> I just don't like to go to the club.
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>> Jazzy Jeff was just up here the other
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day with Teddy Rowley and Jazzy Jeff
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said, "It's not that we don't enjoy the
3:04
music anymore. We don't enjoy some of
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the spaces."
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>> Boom. Like I just don't understand. Like
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then I see it all on my feed online.
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I'll be like, you know, your ass should
3:15
not be in the club. You know, you got
3:16
things you need to be paying for and you
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out. What is you celebrating? Like, why?
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And I'm in the club with Then you just
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feel like I I don't know. It's just
3:24
weird sometimes. Like, I don't like
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feeling like I'm the richest person in
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the room.
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>> The richest person in the room.
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>> It don't feel good. Like,
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>> what does that feel like? [laughter]
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>> It don't feel good.
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>> How do others act?
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>> You just be looking around the You just
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be looking around the club and
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>> it's just like, I don't like this. I'd
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rather be home.
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>> Yeah. I'd rather be at the house.
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>> You feel like you hang with the wrong
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crowd. If if you're the richest person
3:45
in the room, you need to be in another
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room.
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>> And I'm about to be 39.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Like what?
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>> Yeah.
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>> In March. So it's like,
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>> wow.
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>> The average age when I go if if I go to
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a club, I know it's 21. Like
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>> Yeah.
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>> 29. I'm I'm 10 years over that. I'm Why
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am I here? [laughter]
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>> What am I doing? My daughter about to
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start d I can't be
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>> But but that's the other thing.
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>> Yeah.
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your daughter. You first of all, round
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of applause. You and your daughter have
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the
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>> best dynamic app. Congratulations. She
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loves her daddy.
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>> And she doesn't mind clowning you, bro.
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It's the It's like she It's the funniest
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thing. But
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>> all this stuff that you said like I used
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to go viral for her. Now she's catching
4:27
up to it and it's funny to her. So like
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now that's my pop. So she like we did
4:31
something recently. We not even we but
4:32
we was leaving like a little crab boil
4:34
spot. I don't know if you saw it. I saw
4:36
it. And I had on the same exact outfit
4:38
that I had when I said, "Oh, they
4:40
chasing me. Oh my god, they're chasing
4:42
me." And she's like, "Oh, I'm about to
4:43
get me." That's when she was like, "Oh
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my god. Oh my god." They're ch I'm like,
4:46
"What?" I'm just looking like, you know,
4:48
your kids can make you look old and feel
4:50
old for real. [laughter]
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So I'm like, "What?" And then when she
4:54
showed me, I said, "You my daughter, so
4:56
I'm going to let you go and press play
4:57
on that." But I'm letting you know that
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[Â __Â ] about to go everywhere. It's going
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viral, but I'm going to let you slide
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with it. [laughter] You my daughter. But
5:04
she always giving me the business
5:04
though. But I let her up though. You you
5:06
let her do that, right? You got to let
5:08
her do that, man. And I think too, you
5:09
get to a point where you got to consider
5:11
that your kids are going to see this
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stuff.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Has she ever questioned you about
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something and just said, "Well, what was
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that all about?"
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>> No. Okay.
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>> And I'm glad.
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>> I ain't Dad ain't done nothing to where
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I got to explain anything. But more or
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less, it's just
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>> she just really gets a kick out of it.
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Like doesn't want to
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>> do it. I mean, she's done some acting
5:33
here and there, but like even with the
5:36
like Mike situation, I'm like, "Look, we
5:38
got an opportunity
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>> of a lifetime right now to do it again
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and they want to give you the the role
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like just we going to do like Mike,
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too."
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>> No, I think you should really wait till
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like my baby brother get older, Dad.
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Like, I really don't want to do that.
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Like, that like is it going to be like
5:54
some cheerleading? Is it going to be
5:55
some dancing in there? Like, if it's
5:57
dancing bring it on for five like we're
5:59
not doing that. Like, [laughter] you
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know what I'm saying? If you ain't gonna
6:01
do it, then I'm have to go find
6:02
somebody, another little girl that's
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gonna play my daughter. And then if it
6:05
happens, you gonna be tight because the
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role was for you, right?
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>> So, but I never force her. Like, she
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just really, bro, she right now she on a
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college tip. Like, she living in Dallas.
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>> She wants to, she enjoying school. It's
6:16
high school.
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>> Um, and she like that. I, you know, I
6:19
want to go to the youth. She want to go
6:20
to Miami University. That's that's her
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thing. So, I I only want to pull her in
6:24
this. If she don't want to do it, you
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ain't got to do it.
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>> You ain't got to do it. I love how you
6:27
how you father, man. Shad Moss is here,
6:30
man. Let me ask you this, bro.
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>> Yep.
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>> Cuz I went through a name change earlier
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this year.
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>> Oh boy. I hope you give the full story
6:38
behind this op move you made.
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>> What are you talking about, Heather?
6:43
>> Go ahead. I I I'll correct him when he
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gets wrong.
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>> I start questioning my name. Okay.
6:47
>> That my that my [laughter] that my that
6:51
my parents gave me, you know, like your
6:54
mom gave you that name, right? Facts,
6:55
>> right? But you gave yourself the name of
6:58
Well, somebody named you. Yeah. Snoop.
7:00
>> Okay. So that but you ain't named
7:02
yourself yet.
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>> Damn. You got me stumped when you said
7:07
that. Damn.
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>> Yeah. You never named yourself.
7:10
>> You're right.
7:10
>> Right. So I decided to name myself
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[laughter]
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>> and I I took the first initial my um my
7:18
my government. Okay.
7:19
>> Which is a J. And I took my middle name
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>> which is Ahmad.
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>> And Jamad.
7:24
>> Jamad.
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So if I did mine now my my mried
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it's gonna be terrible.
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>> No
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yeah yours that works.
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>> That works right.
7:37
>> That works. That works.
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>> Um but I can't get people to call me
7:41
this. Right. So especially people in the
7:43
room.
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>> Did Did you tell them why? Tell him why
7:46
you created this name.
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>> I don't even know why that's important.
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[laughter]
7:50
>> Context matters.
7:52
>> Real quick, bro. Real quick, man. I
7:53
don't want to dwell on this, but I was
7:56
joining a bowling league cuz Ruby, you
7:58
asked me the other day, bro. I'll be
8:00
bowling. So, I join I joined the bowling
8:02
league. You asked me the other day,
8:03
yesterday. What is it like being back on
8:05
the West? So, I came I came back on the
8:08
West. Now, I'm doing just regular stuff.
8:10
I'm playing pickle ball tonight.
8:11
>> Okay.
8:12
>> You know what I mean? I'm You see what
8:13
I'm doing? Y
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>> and so when I joined the bowling league,
8:16
I didn't want to put sway on the screen,
8:18
so I put
8:19
>> Oh, I'll be doing that, too, cuz I don't
8:21
want people to know like I be trying to
8:22
Yeah, I know. I I see where you're going
8:23
with it,
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>> Shad. [laughter] You notice I'm calling
8:26
you Shad. I like it.
8:27
>> Yeah, man. Thank you, man. But that's
8:28
important. Sometimes it was important
8:30
for you to change, you know, to let to
8:32
have people start calling you by your
8:34
your government name, right? Does it irk
8:37
you still when people say Ba?
8:39
>> No. No. Okay. My mama called me B. My
8:42
mama ain't call me my mom has not called
8:44
me my real name.
8:48
>> Wow.
8:48
>> Like 20 years. My aunt though,
8:51
>> my aunt
8:52
>> called me Shad for sure.
8:54
>> She's the only one. The only one. My
8:57
mama is Ba. Everything is bow bow. Bow
8:59
bow.
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>> Um there's other nicknames too that
9:03
people call me, but ba is
9:05
>> ba is it?
9:06
>> That's the one.
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>> And it doesn't irk you
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>> at all.
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>> All right. So, you know, this shouldn't
9:10
irk you, Heather.
9:12
>> Doesn't matter. Sway
9:13
>> Jama. Okay. But I but I I but that was a
9:17
part of your evolution. When I think of
9:19
you, um, I I and I look at what artists
9:22
have gone through in recent times and
9:24
because of social media, we're very more
9:26
way more vocal. Yes.
9:28
>> Right. So, you're starting to hear
9:29
you're hearing way more uh um what?
9:32
That's me. Okay.
9:34
>> Oh, okay. You're starting to hear
9:35
[laughter] way about some of the
9:37
challenges that people face. And I'm
9:38
just curious, man. You've been a
9:40
childhood star,
9:42
>> right? And and when you talk about
9:43
mental health, we didn't have the tools
9:45
we had
9:47
>> back then when you were coming up. We
9:48
didn't even have the language.
9:49
>> Right.
9:50
>> Right. We didn't know about safe spaces
9:52
and and all of these support and all of
9:54
these different things. It's always es
9:56
and flows in this business.
9:58
>> Can can you recall times where mentally
10:02
um you weren't as stable as you are now?
10:04
Yeah.
10:05
>> And and I think a lot of people learn
10:06
from this because they wouldn't even
10:07
know that you would be going through
10:08
this.
10:09
>> That's why I still go through it.
10:10
>> Talk about
10:11
>> I still go through it. I just went
10:12
through it
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>> like four days ago.
10:15
>> Mhm.
10:16
>> Like we always like you're going to have
10:18
your episodes, but like you say, it's
10:19
all about how you you know what I'm
10:20
saying? You you you monitor it, how you
10:23
maintain it. So for me,
10:24
>> the number one thing I do when I get
10:26
stressed or I just feel like
10:28
>> I'm about to crash out today.
10:29
>> Like instead of like doing what the
10:31
normal do they get on the, you know, I'm
10:32
not trying to make no blog. So thank
10:34
God. I'm going tell this. This is real.
10:36
Make a group chat.
10:38
>> Make a group chat.
10:38
>> I promise you make a group chat. The day
10:41
I made a group chat was the day I
10:42
stopped making like the internet for the
10:44
foolishness. Like I that's because I air
10:47
everything out there instead of running
10:48
to my Instagram and
10:50
>> then you know as celebrities we be we
10:52
feel bad after the fact like I post that
10:54
damn it's everywhere. I don't even feel
10:55
like that anymore. Yeah. Just make a
10:57
group chat and air it out. And that's
11:00
I'm not going to lie to you. Um I I
11:01
don't know if he told me this, but
11:02
that's something that Will Smith I think
11:04
I seen Will say that.
11:06
>> Like I'll write it, but then I'm going
11:08
post it and I'll just delete it before I
11:10
post it. So I say I'm just going to make
11:11
a group chat and get it off in here and
11:13
it works. I'm getting it off. I'm saying
11:15
how I feel. I'm venting. I'm ranting.
11:16
I'm crashing out.
11:18
>> But I'm doing it amongst my brothers.
11:20
>> You know, they going to hit me with
11:21
their feedback.
11:23
>> And you know, I keep it right there now.
11:25
I don't got to be venting in public and
11:27
people, you know, looking at me
11:28
differently like, "Oh, Bow's crazy. He's
11:30
out of his mind." It's like, "No, I keep
11:31
it private. That's my safe space." You
11:33
got to have a safe space. Um I don't I
11:35
don't I don't care what the temperature
11:36
is, what the weather is like. I would
11:37
take a walk in a minute.
11:39
>> I just did it four days ago. I was in
11:40
[clears throat] my house going crazy
11:42
>> and I put my coat on. I said, "I need to
11:44
go take a walk."
11:45
>> Man, what was driving you crazy?
11:48
>> Just so much going on. The kids um tour,
11:52
building this show. Uh
11:54
>> not just from the entertainment
11:55
perspective, but from a businessman
11:57
perspective, too. Like me and me and
11:58
B2K, we got a group chat. Like it's not
12:00
just about
12:01
>> the performance side. It's about yo we
12:02
need to do this. Why we ain't hitting
12:03
this? Why we not in LA? Why weah? So
12:06
it's like a whole thing. So on top of
12:08
that then you know baby mama might call
12:10
son sick. He don't want to go to school.
12:11
I got to face out with him. He on the
12:13
floor. I don't want to go to school.
12:14
Then this management calling. Hey we got
12:16
this. Hey we got like it's it just be so
12:19
much going on that when I finally just
12:21
take time to myself I'm like yo I'm
12:22
about to just lose it. I'm about to
12:24
crash completely out. And before I do
12:27
that, put my phone down, roll me up a
12:30
blunt,
12:31
>> take this walk, [laughter]
12:33
>> and stay off the phone. Like, don't go
12:36
don't tweet, don't Instagram story,
12:39
don't nothing. Don't do nothing because
12:41
I've learned from that. So, it's like I
12:42
know what would come from that. And I
12:44
know that if I put it out there
12:45
publicly, I know I'm going to be like, I
12:48
don't even feel like that 10 minutes.
12:49
Damn, I put that out there and it's
12:50
forever out there. So, group chat, I'm
12:53
telling you, if you listening right now,
12:54
make a group chat with your closest
12:56
homies, your bros, whoever you rock
12:57
with, and put it all in there. Trust me,
13:01
the group chat, that's what saved me. I
13:03
ain't going to lie to you. Something
13:04
that simple.
13:05
>> Something that simple.
13:06
>> That simple.
13:06
>> I got to get a group chat with Heather,
13:08
Heather, Tracy. [laughter]
13:11
>> I'm not in it.
13:11
>> Why you showing up as Jamard or Swear?
13:14
Who are you in this group chat?
13:15
>> They're both the same people. [laughter]
13:18
>> Sh. It's the same thing. It's the same
13:21
thing.
13:21
>> We [laughter] just It's funny you
13:22
mentioned that cuz we just had a
13:23
conversation this morning, Sway and I,
13:25
about just get it out, you know? You
13:27
just have to get it out. You're not If
13:29
people really love you and they care
13:30
about you, you're not bothering them
13:32
with it. You know, I think as long as
13:34
your people in your circle see some
13:36
growth in you, we not beating on the
13:38
same thing, we don't mind addressing it
13:40
cuz maybe you learn something from the
13:41
situation that I I can now learn and use
13:44
it if I if I come up on that mountain,
13:46
you know. So, I I think that's a great
13:48
idea. But while you were talking though,
13:50
it made me think about you in terms of a
13:54
manager
13:55
>> like everything that you've gone through
13:57
and everything that you've witnessed and
13:58
I the success obviously that's what we
14:01
saw and you're so kind enough to share
14:03
some of the other things that we didn't
14:04
see. Um, how would you manage a young
14:07
artist right now? Like if you had a an
14:10
11year-old artist and they're
14:12
experiencing the level of fame that you
14:16
experienced at such a young age and now
14:17
that we do, would you get them a
14:19
therapist? You know, people have ANRs
14:21
and would you automatically say no?
14:23
>> I don't need no therapist.
14:26
>> If I'm managing them, no, definitely
14:27
don't need it because I done been
14:28
through it already. So, I'm everything
14:30
in one. But I would definitely um
14:34
[sighs] for young I mean it's it's
14:36
different now because you know the
14:37
accessibility to everything the internet
14:40
um
14:40
>> it's so tough it's easy to just get
14:43
swayed one way um but for me
14:46
>> now
14:51
I think just the word protect like
14:54
>> the word protect and just protection and
14:57
security just to you know guide them
14:59
through no different than what I do with
15:00
my daughter what I do with my son like
15:02
how how I teach them just the ins and
15:04
outs to do and the don'ts. Um, keeping
15:06
it real with them, letting them know
15:07
what could happen if you go this route
15:09
and, you know, the course that we need
15:10
to stay on. And, [snorts] you know, I
15:12
mean, I I feel like I never even thought
15:14
about managing an artist or let alone
15:16
having one. But,
15:17
>> you know, if I, like you said, if I had
15:19
like a little 11-year-old, I think that
15:20
I could,
15:21
>> who else better to teach him than me?
15:23
The pressure.
15:24
>> Yeah. But someone like you, in my
15:25
opinion, would be the Yeah. would be the
15:28
because you have exper I think a lot of
15:30
times people make their homies their
15:31
managers you know like you my man come
15:33
through this and you can't with all your
15:36
experience you would make a great
15:37
manager in my opinion so thank you for
15:40
protection I I for sure you got to
15:42
protect them
15:43
>> the women let's talk about that
15:45
>> let's do it
15:45
>> and it's different now than even when
15:47
you were coming up
15:48
>> worse I couldn't imagine being coming
15:50
out now
15:51
>> what's worse what does worse mean what
15:53
makes what's in the what's inside of
15:55
worse
15:56
>> social media Yeah, like girls used to
15:58
have to write fan mail, send it to the
15:59
Sony music office in New York and hope
16:01
that I even
16:03
>> come to New York and see it or you know
16:05
now it's
16:07
>> I'm just DM that go right to him new
16:10
pitch. Wow. Bang. As soon as you open it
16:12
like damn.
16:13
>> Yeah. When you you coming to Houston,
16:15
>> let's link like but I don't go for that
16:18
though. That
16:20
never.
16:20
>> You never linked up with somebody off a
16:22
DM? I dare I have [laughter]
16:25
>> protection sway protection.
16:29
>> I Hey, I have Hey, I have I have I have
16:32
>> but um it's just different now. The
16:35
access, right? The access is just
16:39
>> it's just it's is unreal, man. Like, you
16:41
know, we used to be we used to have to
16:43
that sounds weird me saying we used to
16:46
like that old man,
16:48
>> but yeah, we used to have to like really
16:49
pull up and put in work. like you had to
16:51
pull up, put in work, um go to the mall,
16:55
>> go to concerts, you know, go where the
16:56
ladies is at. Now it's like it's like a
17:00
freef fall. You just can be anywhere and
17:02
just slide in a DM and if you famous,
17:04
you got that blue check if you if you
17:05
one of them,
17:06
>> look at your about five minutes later or
17:08
10 minutes left, you send that DM, she
17:09
hitting right back and your homie like,
17:11
man, I DM'd her forever ago. She ain't
17:13
never y'all know. And it's like it's
17:15
just too easy. It's just it's it's
17:17
scary. That's another reason why I scale
17:19
back. I stay in the house.
17:21
>> Okay.
17:22
>> I don't I don't I don't leave my house.
17:24
I'm in the crib. Like this is like scary
17:26
hours right now. So I see what's going
17:28
on.
17:28
>> There's no such thing as a great re, you
17:31
know, a great outcome from somebody that
17:33
DMs you
17:35
>> know what I mean? Like somebody you
17:36
might find.
17:37
>> It has. Now now that's true.
17:40
>> Yeah. But you could tell though from the
17:42
energy they they displaying. Like if you
17:44
just
17:46
>> own it just too fast in the DM, it's
17:48
like I'm cool. I don't know. And then
17:49
you got to be careful, bro, with AI.
17:51
Like my home girl was just showing me
17:52
something at the crib. She like, "What
17:54
you think of this?" I'm like, she set me
17:56
up. I don't know what this is. I don't
17:57
know what what you showing me that for.
17:59
I was letting you know cuz there's some
18:01
people that's out here that's hitting
18:02
that's hitting this up and I just want
18:03
to let you know this ain't what you
18:04
think it is. And I'm like, "Oh, that's
18:06
crazy." I said, "See, that's why I don't
18:07
be sliding the DMs no more. Catch me."
18:09
Like it's just too AI and
18:12
>> it's too much going on out here. I'm
18:14
cool.
18:14
>> Smart man sh right here, man. Come on.
18:17
>> Hey, I'm on NBA 2K, man. I'm I'm in the
18:20
house. [laughter]
18:20
>> You're in the house.
18:21
>> I'm on I'm on 2K. I'm in the house.
18:24
>> Now, now the new tour is called Boys for
18:26
Life
18:27
>> with Bowwow and B2K.
18:29
>> What's up? I want to um I I remember you
18:33
and Omaran went did a tour and you
18:36
probably said that you guys weren't
18:37
really talking during that tour.
18:39
>> That's a fact.
18:40
>> That really happened. So he'll come on
18:42
stage, you going y'all would ignore each
18:44
other,
18:44
>> bro. [laughter]
18:47
Like
18:47
>> man, I'm talking about this was last
18:49
year. This was his last me like me, Trey
18:52
Songs, and O's tour. um
18:55
he would get off the stage and you know
18:59
I would go on after him or if I whatever
19:01
however we had it. First of all we had
19:02
to go we alternated closing.
19:06
>> Mhm.
19:06
>> So that was one thing that we had to
19:08
agree on. So Bow can get Atlanta but
19:10
it's it's on every other show. So Bow
19:13
gets Atlanta but O gets LA.
19:16
>> I'm like okay well that's fair. All
19:18
right. B gets Barklays.
19:21
O gets Houston. I'm like okay. So hold
19:23
on. We got to stop right there.
19:23
[laughter] See, Htown, I don't know. We
19:25
got to We got to revisit. Well, then you
19:27
need You can't get Cleveland. I need
19:29
Ohio, though. Like,
19:30
>> so it was it was
19:32
>> it was wrong in an aspect of I feel like
19:35
we cheated the fans because they never
19:37
saw we never performed together on that
19:38
tour.
19:39
>> And it wasn't until the last show in
19:41
London that, you know, Trey was like,
19:43
>> you know, and y'all getting a photo,
19:44
man. We we I'm still on one. Like, I'm
19:47
like, man, I won't be no photo right
19:49
now. Like, I'mma do it, Trey. You know
19:50
what I'm saying? But
19:51
>> it's weird right now. But we took the
19:53
photo and it was just crazy how now we
19:55
back tighter than ever and I'm like yo
19:57
oh like
19:59
[Â __Â ] like it's just crazy bro walking
20:01
past each other you hugging my aunt and
20:03
we shoulder to show we I'm we ain't
20:05
saying a word shoulder to shoulder
20:07
shoulder to shoulder ain't nothing I'll
20:08
speak to his mama right there his his
20:10
son whatever but I ain't looking at
20:12
>> we we kept it peeking like that
20:15
>> yo Heather there was a time when when I
20:17
was at MTV and I can't think of that
20:20
studio we talked about this before when
20:21
you and O making that first project.
20:24
>> Mhm.
20:24
>> And I went in the Yeah. Right. And I'm
20:26
in the studio with these dudes and they
20:28
we had a good ass time. I'm like I
20:30
didn't even know y'all were that close.
20:32
>> That's my dog.
20:32
>> And then to see that separation. How did
20:34
y'all reconcile?
20:36
>> Uh the BET Awards.
20:37
>> Okay.
20:38
>> Last year the 10 Park tribute. Um um we
20:41
had to see each other.
20:42
>> Mhm.
20:42
>> And as a host,
20:44
>> the rapper all that go out the window.
20:47
You you a host. So you got to talk to
20:48
everybody. You got to be cool with
20:50
everybody. So I'm like, "Oh, damn. They
20:52
coming up for the interview." Damn.
20:53
[laughter]
20:56
I mean, and and then it was it was dope
20:58
because Stephen Hill was right there
21:00
with us. So he said, "I can't miss this
21:01
moment. BK."
21:03
So, you know, my mom like, "I'm the
21:04
host. I'm not the rapper." So, at that
21:08
moment, I was the bigger person. I said,
21:09
"You know what?
21:10
>> Now that we here, oh, bop bop. We
21:13
cheated the fans." Boom. Pop it right
21:15
there live because I know we can't we
21:17
live on TV. We got to roll with We got
21:19
to roll with it.
21:20
>> And here you go. Raz Razby always is
21:22
like the business person of the guru of
21:24
the group.
21:24
>> And we about to go on tour, bro. We
21:26
going live on TV, man. We got, you know,
21:28
we don't want to go without you. We got
21:29
to bring the dog with us, man. It's got
21:30
to be both of us. I'm like, we going to
21:31
talk when we rap. Let's talk when I get
21:33
off the air. We'll talk. I ain't going
21:34
to commit to nothing. But when we when
21:37
we got done with the show, we was back
21:38
at the trailers just chopping it up. And
21:40
um you know, I told O, I said, "No,
21:42
look, I feel like we cheated the fans,
21:44
bro. Now me and you and Trey Tour, bro."
21:46
>> Yeah.
21:46
>> Wait. Like they didn't see us do let me
21:48
hold you. We ain't getting our face off
21:50
back, bro. Like, you know, you was
21:52
getting a lot of criticism from that
21:54
tour. And me just watching the feedback
21:56
from the fans, I know you a bad mode.
21:57
Like, I know you can you can go. I know
21:59
this ain't you. I know what you can do.
22:02
>> And I just felt like, yo, with us
22:03
together now, like, it makes sense. I
22:05
know O going to be on his in his bag
22:07
this tour.
22:08
>> Yeah.
22:08
>> That's my like I said, that's my dog.
22:09
So, he seeing what we all was seeing. He
22:11
was seeing the criticism and I just like
22:13
I damn I I want to
22:15
>> I mean I want to I want to chop it up
22:17
with my man. But we just so in our ego
22:19
right now. This just ain't the time. But
22:20
I just you know but now
22:22
>> we in our bag and you know like I said
22:24
we we we spoke on it like men
22:26
>> and um I said yo bro your kids be coming
22:28
up to me. We be having shows and
22:30
festivals. We on the same lineup and
22:31
your son be running up to me bow bow.
22:33
And I'm like what up? What up? Then it's
22:34
like I just feel weird talking to your
22:36
son and then me and pops ain't I don't
22:38
know. We got to we got to kill this. I
22:40
said, "We can't do this tour if we don't
22:42
shine together." Like, we gotta make
22:44
sure we do these records. We got to get
22:45
the fans what they want. They paying for
22:47
it. Because I'm like this, we do this
22:48
tour and don't rock with each other, I
22:50
don't think we ever going to be able to
22:51
do it again. So, we got to get them what
22:53
they want. So,
22:54
>> everybody on good terms. Everybody
22:56
>> 2K on good terms.
22:57
>> Yeah, they was on time. They popped out
22:58
um last night for JD. Um, shout out to
23:00
JD. He had the social death party last
23:02
night. It was crazy. Um,
23:03
>> and they came together.
23:04
>> Yeah, I had Trey on. Trey pulled up. I
23:06
hit Trey like pull up. Uh, I hit the
23:08
boys to get Listen, y'all understand to
23:10
get all four
23:12
>> like group members together in the
23:14
pullup
23:15
>> at the same time.
23:16
>> Yeah.
23:17
>> That ain't quite easy to do. Like, but
23:20
that's when I knew last night, I was
23:22
already confirmed, but last night I seen
23:23
I said, "No, they want it. The boys is
23:24
back. We back."
23:25
>> And um, you know, we we we we ready.
23:28
>> Y'all those guys, bro.
23:30
>> We ready.
23:30
>> Y those guys, man. Congratulations. It's
23:33
been 20 plus years, man.
23:34
>> The resolution of it all, though. That's
23:36
the main part. Just figuring it out.
23:39
Figuring it out, man.
23:41
Talking
23:42
>> talking. And that's what I've been on
23:43
all year. Like
23:44
>> I don't got no issues. Like all these
23:46
rappers out here, like I'm I'm just
23:47
getting to the chicken, taking care of
23:48
my kids. Any problems that I did have,
23:50
I'm trying to
23:51
>> go back and and fix them. You know what
23:53
I'm saying? Like I done fixed
23:54
>> all my problems with if it was rappers
23:57
or whatever. It don't take me to tell
23:59
somebody I'm I'm I'm calling you myself
24:01
or I'mma DM you myself.
24:03
Who's somebody you can share that you
24:05
had to fix?
24:06
>> Um, if you feel comfortable, don't don't
24:09
you don't have to. I'm just curious.
24:13
>> Um, I'll say this. Uh,
24:18
it really wasn't a fix,
24:20
>> but
24:21
>> amend.
24:22
>> Yeah. It was more like a misunderstand.
24:24
I ain't gonna say the person name, but I
24:26
guarantee they from Ohio.
24:28
>> Okay.
24:28
>> From the from the from the state. He
24:30
know what I'm talking about when he see
24:31
this. But it it really wasn't even
24:33
nothing crazy. It was just more of a you
24:36
know we never met and you don't know me
24:39
and I don't know you man we grown man we
24:42
ain't
24:44
>> what's really the issue.
24:45
>> Yeah.
24:45
>> You know what I'm saying? And come to
24:47
find out like man you know what [Â __Â ] I
24:48
was tripping man. A really no man I'm
24:50
going tell you what I can finally come
24:52
to a scream tour now cuz like everything
24:54
through I've been dying to come to I've
24:55
been dying to tell you I came up off you
24:58
look the the your album. He then he
25:00
started expressing to me. I'm like, see
25:01
what I mean? Like, damn, I ain't even
25:03
know that I'm
25:04
>> and just a simple talk.
25:06
>> Like, you know what I mean? If you
25:07
listening, just it ain't you ain't got
25:08
to be famous. Just whoever you got to
25:10
act, whatever. Like,
25:11
>> it just sometimes just take a simple
25:12
conver and we men so sometimes it just
25:14
takes a simple conversation.
25:17
>> It can be 5, 10, 15 minutes and I
25:20
promise you and it just change
25:22
everything. I walk around, bro,
25:24
>> with no worries in the world. I'm
25:25
probably the only rapper other than
25:27
probably Snoop. Mhm.
25:29
>> I was about to name another rapper
25:30
>> Khalifa.
25:31
>> Whiz
25:34
>> uh that just
25:36
>> Yeah.
25:37
>> I can go anywhere. I can do whatever I
25:39
want. I I don't
25:41
>> No issues. I'm I'm cool. I like to live.
25:43
I I love I work too hard for me to not
25:46
be able to
25:47
>> live and Yeah. Enjoy my life. I don't
25:50
got time to be
25:51
>> I love it, man. Sean Moss is here, man.
25:54
Um, I think I hope you guys realize I
25:58
know you do. You guys are keen to the
26:00
business and and and to the flow of
26:02
things. There's a reason why you're able
26:05
to continue to do these tours with songs
26:07
you made decades ago,
26:09
>> you know. There's a void,
26:11
>> you know, and I think
26:12
>> it's a void now.
26:13
>> Void now that allows
26:16
>> you guys to be the premier tour, you
26:19
know, with uh with songs that are
26:21
considered classics now.
26:22
>> Yeah. What is the void? What do you
26:24
think that's about?
26:26
>> They ain't making good music.
26:29
>> It's simple. Ain't nobody making nothing
26:31
timeless. Ain't nobody making music that
26:35
makes a ladies cry or feel some type of
26:37
way when they put it on. Um, you you
26:40
ain't like it's it's a lot of right now
26:43
music.
26:44
>> You know what I'm saying? Even the
26:45
biggest records, it's big. But, you
26:47
know, I'mma I'mma Let's see what it's
26:50
going to be at the finish line, though.
26:51
>> Yeah. Let's see if we can look at five.
26:53
You gonna care about this record eight
26:54
years from now.
26:56
>> You might like I know because it's going
26:58
to change. Music going to change. But if
26:59
you make that that music that is
27:02
timeless and you write it right and it
27:04
lasts forever, you going to be here.
27:06
Like it's a it's a difference. You know
27:08
what I'm saying? I think that's what we
27:09
missing. We missing substance. We
27:10
missing um that's why we feel good when
27:12
certain rappers drop. It's almost like
27:14
>> therapy or or like you know you just
27:16
been healed from something. It's like oh
27:17
my god thank god he's coming out. I got
27:19
tired of hearing it. Finally, I have
27:21
something I can just ride to and dissect
27:23
and listen to and you know, like I come
27:26
from that. I think that's what music is
27:28
about. Music is about, you know,
27:29
expressing yourself and then through the
27:30
speakers, people supposed to hear it,
27:32
um, digest it and you supposed to be
27:33
able to tap in and make them feel the
27:35
way. Even if it's a party record, you
27:36
party records that last forever, but
27:38
>> you know, it's it's how you write them.
27:39
It's how you place them. Everybody can
27:41
go to the club, buy a bottle, and shake
27:42
some ass. But it's like,
27:44
>> can you talk about that, but in a in a
27:46
different way, in an artistic way, but
27:47
still getting that point across? That's
27:49
what people struggle with. So for me,
27:50
it's just not enough substance no more.
27:51
>> Not enough substance.
27:52
>> And nah. And we And we talking about
27:54
rap. Like you look at some of the
27:55
biggest, it's almost like rappers is
27:56
scared to put that type of music out.
27:58
I'm not though.
27:59
>> Like I'm not like I don't got to do it
28:02
for sale. Like for me,
28:05
>> like when I put my album out, like my
28:07
first single was Father's Day.
28:08
>> I ain't even say that to nobody. My
28:10
first single was Father's Day.
28:11
>> It's called Father's Day. So, no matter
28:12
what I put out from here on out, I don't
28:14
care what is the first single and I'm
28:17
sharing it with y'all. Off my album
28:19
>> is called Father's Day.
28:21
>> That's the first single. I'm not
28:24
>> I don't want to I'm in the club.
28:28
I'm trying I'm trying to get my point
28:30
across. I done lived. I done seen a lot
28:31
being bow and I got a lot to say.
28:34
>> So, like that homies is like, "Nah, you
28:35
you at 38 now dropping one, bro." Like,
28:38
>> you got to you want the grown bow. We
28:41
want to know what you went through. We
28:42
want to know about the baby mama drama.
28:43
You don't you don't had 12, 13 years.
28:46
You ain't put an album where you lived.
28:47
>> You've been working, but you live.
28:49
>> Now you a whole new artist. Now we we
28:52
going to tune in to hear what you got to
28:53
say. That daughter, how y'all be going
28:55
viral, bro? You got to tap into that.
28:56
That's what the world like, B.
28:57
>> Like you the only one that can, you
28:59
ain't the only one, but you got to do
29:00
that. You got to tap into that. You
29:02
know, child support, all that. We done,
29:04
you know what I'm saying? Get in your
29:05
bag now. You got it.
29:06
>> This is it.
29:07
>> You got it now. Like you got you got it.
29:09
You ain't got to just rap about I'm
29:10
buying a Bentley today. Nobody want to
29:11
hear that [Â __Â ] I don't care about you
29:12
buying no Bentley.
29:13
>> Yeah.
29:14
>> No, I don't care about you buying no
29:15
car.
29:16
>> You got a Bentley.
29:17
>> I got a Lamb.
29:18
>> Okay, [laughter]
29:22
>> Jamad.
29:23
[laughter]
29:25
Jamad.
29:26
>> Hey, you want you my big homie? Hey,
29:28
[laughter] you ask me a question. I'm
29:29
gonna answer it. I'm gonna ask. But I'm
29:31
smart, dog. I got one car.
29:32
>> You got one car?
29:33
>> That's all I need.
29:34
>> Could drive one at a time. Get that man
29:35
around.
29:36
>> I got I got that in my B mattress, man.
29:38
I want to go out or whatever.
29:40
>> I'm in the back. We chilling. We
29:43
>> PlayStation and up. We cool. I don't
29:44
need much, man. I'm chilling, man. I got
29:46
everything I need. I'm I'm cool, man.
29:47
I'm I'm blessed. I'm good.
29:49
>> I want to let Tracy over in New York. U
29:51
let Tracy and I'm glad you
29:55
in the cold.
29:55
>> She in the cold right now. Look at Look
29:57
at that big shirt you got on. [laughter]
30:00
>> New Yorker baby.
30:02
>> Listen, through. I wanted to know about
30:04
well first of all I'm really
30:05
appreciating the commentary you just
30:06
gave about the industry because I think
30:09
um
30:10
>> a lot of artists but I would say they're
30:12
creatives I think a lot of people
30:14
approach their music as if it's content
30:16
creation you know what I mean which is
30:19
something different and I respect it as
30:21
such but artistry you have to really
30:24
immerse yourself in the craft and that's
30:27
how you get different results your type
30:29
of results timeless results
30:31
>> um now what comes comes with being a
30:34
master in so many areas of
30:35
entertainment, right? And we the fans,
30:38
we have followed you through all of
30:40
these lanes that you have mastered and
30:42
you're talking to us about, you know,
30:44
Father's Day that's going to be coming
30:46
up, your new single and this version of
30:48
Bowout that the public hasn't fully met
30:50
yet that you're introducing us to when
30:53
you have mastered so many things. Can
30:56
you share with us what are you
30:59
struggling to master right now? What are
31:02
your like areas of improvement if you're
31:05
comfortable sharing?
31:07
>> It's more on a on a um like on a it's
31:12
not even really artistry.
31:14
It'll be more personal for me.
31:16
>> If there's anything I want to get better
31:18
correct as me as a man, me as a father,
31:20
me as a person. Um I just told one of my
31:21
homies is,
31:23
>> you know, I had to apologize to one of
31:24
my homies. You know what I'm saying? We
31:25
we down in New Orleans for Breezy Bowl.
31:27
We had a great time and me and him get
31:29
into it. He fall out and he hearing that
31:31
over. He hearing out over here. Right.
31:33
My boy Mill. He right next right there.
31:35
My boy Me.
31:36
>> Shout to Queens, man. Shout out. I want
31:38
to hear this story with you standing
31:40
right here.
31:40
>> Southside [laughter] Jamaica. Queens in
31:42
the building.
31:42
>> Southside. He rising to the top. Queens
31:45
get the money.
31:45
>> Did he see horse?
31:47
>> Southside,
31:47
>> man. What happened man?
31:49
>> He's like, "No, man. We just had a
31:50
moment. We brothers.
31:51
>> Give me a chair, man. Okay, [laughter]
31:53
man.
31:56
He like, "Yo,
31:58
>> we need to see this kind of, you know,
32:00
this kind of camaraderie, man.
32:01
>> As celebrities, man, you know, the these
32:03
are the people that they don't see that
32:05
be in in camps and crews and you need a
32:08
male. You need, you know, a right-hand
32:10
man. You need somebody that's going to
32:11
shake you up and let you know when you
32:12
wrong, you know, watching you, making
32:14
sure you straight." And, you know, um,
32:16
Breezy B, we popped out, had too much to
32:19
drink. And I got mad at my man and for
32:22
sleeping. I'm like, "Why is you
32:23
sleeping?" 6:30 [laughter]
32:26
in the morning.
32:27
>> We We get into it.
32:28
>> What are you tired?
32:29
>> We got We got a little a little slight
32:31
>> Why are you tired?
32:32
>> Yeah. A little slight tussle. And um
32:34
>> slight tussle.
32:35
>> A slight tussle.
32:36
>> Get physical.
32:37
>> A slight tle. That was nothing crazy.
32:38
>> Okay. But it was to the point to
32:41
[laughter] where
32:42
>> we didn't talk for two months after
32:43
that.
32:44
>> Wow.
32:45
>> And tour coming up and we I know my man
32:47
feeling. I'm like I know my man like
32:48
there's no way this nigga's going to
32:50
leave me in Atlanta and they about to
32:52
just
32:52
>> I'm like I got to and everybody from
32:54
Trey to Chris to everybody calling me
32:56
man you need mail you got mail back man
32:58
[laughter]
32:59
we don't need mail I'm good I ain't need
33:01
mail man you got you you working us we
33:03
don't [laughter] work for you like you
33:04
know what I'm saying like even Chris
33:05
like sometimes I be needing mail I where
33:07
mail at but I had to apologize to my
33:10
homie and be like you know what that's
33:11
my fault you know what I'm saying like
33:13
you right you I mean I understand you
33:15
tired bro like you ain't the artist like
33:17
you got to watch what I'm doing and be
33:20
up and be alert. Like now when I I said
33:22
this time I pause I got to be a better
33:24
person and I said I that was me to the
33:26
point where I told him I said look bro
33:28
when we go on tour you off the clock at
33:30
midnight
33:31
>> cuz you got a life to live. You get
33:33
paid. You know what I'm saying? You
33:34
might have a girl that you want to go to
33:35
the bar with and have a drink and be
33:37
like I ain't got to deal with B for
33:39
another eight nine hours. How you doing?
33:41
>> Talk to your man.
33:43
So I told him, "Yeah,
33:45
>> every night
33:46
>> at midnight, just check in with me. Bow,
33:49
you got everything you need. You good?
33:50
You straight?
33:51
>> I'm good. Okay, I'm off the clock. I'm
33:53
about to go enjoy my time now. I'm off."
33:55
And I feel like people need that. You
33:57
know what I'm saying? That's how you
33:58
keep your workers fresh. That's how you
34:00
keep your team fresh.
34:02
>> Look that way. Look that way.
34:03
>> Yeah. Yeah. Damn. You [laughter] running
34:05
a boot camp over here? What you doing?
34:08
>> Cuz I'm Mel out here. Yo, come on
34:10
[laughter] me. I FEEL YOU. COME ON, MAN.
34:13
>> I HAD TO THINK LIKE, how can I get the
34:15
best out of my guys, right? And I'm
34:17
like,
34:18
>> I got it. I gotta
34:20
>> It's not one time I didn't show up,
34:21
though.
34:21
>> That's fact.
34:22
>> Not one time you didn't show up.
34:24
>> What?
34:24
>> Even when he was acting,
34:27
right?
34:27
>> Ask him how we got called. [laughter]
34:29
I'm
34:29
>> telling you. He there. He there. He just
34:32
showed up.
34:33
>> He going to be there. Like last night,
34:34
he was out. He like this. I said, "I
34:35
know. I know this nigga's watching how
34:37
many drinks I have." Cuz he know we got
34:38
to be up early in the morning. We got to
34:39
get this way.
34:40
>> You good? You know, God know we got to
34:42
do tomorrow. I only ask you one thing. I
34:44
know. All right. Bet. He know I'm ready.
34:46
Like he know. Like he know. But to
34:49
anybody out there though, you just can't
34:50
you can't overwork people. And a lot of
34:51
times, you know what I'm saying?
34:53
>> I [laughter] mean,
34:55
>> and a lot of times like as a as a as an
34:57
artist and celebrities
34:58
>> cuz me and Tracy got a union. [laughter]
35:01
>> We just forgot.
35:05
[laughter]
35:08
I got you. I GOT YOU.
35:11
TALK TALK. WE LISTENING.
35:13
>> We get the point. We get the point.
35:14
>> I'm [laughter] like, how can I get the
35:15
best out of my guys? I'm like, I'm
35:17
complaining about my man looking tired
35:20
and being tired, but it's my fault cuz
35:22
I'm running them to the ground. So, I'm
35:24
like, even I got to pause and make sure
35:27
I get my rest and I need my eight hours
35:30
myself. So, I I said this. I said, "Bro,
35:32
I apologize.
35:33
>> I know I could be a mad man sometimes
35:35
and the hustle and you know, we all get
35:37
a little bit of greed. We do have a
35:38
little bit of greed in us and the
35:39
money's rolling. We want to stay up and
35:41
just get it, get get.
35:43
>> I said, "But you got a life to live,
35:45
too. I can't be paying you and you ain't
35:47
enjoying your life. Like, you might want
35:49
to go to Miami for a weekend with a
35:51
mirror or something. You know, that
35:52
ain't got nothing to do about. But I
35:53
want you to live your life." So, for
35:54
that midnight, we off the stage anyway
35:56
by like 11.
35:57
>> Mhm. I
35:58
>> You appreciated that, man.
36:00
>> Oh, hell yeah. [laughter]
36:03
>> You saw that smile? Look at that. Hell
36:06
>> yeah. [laughter] Don't worry, don't
36:08
worry.
36:09
>> But you but you witnessed his evolution
36:12
like you've known him for a while. So
36:14
yeah. And what what can you say about
36:15
when you see the metamorphosis, the
36:17
change, him improving on himself?
36:20
>> Tell him all the time. I'm proud of you.
36:21
Keep doing it.
36:22
>> He'll tell me.
36:23
>> Yeah.
36:23
>> He'll tell me. I tell him all the time,
36:25
bro. I'm about I'm about to stop
36:26
drinking.
36:27
>> Okay. Now, all right. Okay. When you do
36:31
it, I'm I'm right here with you. I'm
36:32
your dog. I want you to. But all right.
36:34
But it's it's still things, like I said,
36:35
it's still things that like I said, it's
36:38
more personal with me. It's it's never
36:40
>> business. I got that. I ain't tripping
36:42
on the music, movies, the the
36:44
entertainment aspect, but I I can't go
36:46
out and be bow up of shot ain't right.
36:47
You know what I mean? So, I got to make
36:49
sure
36:49
>> um my mental is is is right. Um my my
36:52
guys is with me, you know? That's why
36:54
every day when I wake up, like it was
36:55
nothing to wake up this morning. I don't
36:56
care we was out till
36:58
>> 3, 4, 5 in the morning. Like,
37:00
>> I love it. I love what I do. I'm gonna
37:02
be on time. I'm never going to be I
37:04
understand the big picture. So
37:05
>> yeah, you know, you you helped create
37:07
the big picture. That's that's you're
37:08
one of the architects of the big
37:10
picture, man. Hey, bro. I'm loving your
37:12
evolution, man. And um I've been, you
37:15
know, with you all the whole time, man.
37:18
Beautiful. You know, I I don't want to
37:20
get into your finances.
37:21
>> You're good.
37:22
>> But I I think it's important that people
37:25
uh Thank you, Mel. I appreciate you,
37:26
Mel. You never took a seat. You need to
37:28
rest.
37:29
>> All [laughter] right.
37:33
What what are some key important things
37:36
that artists should know about their
37:39
money?
37:41
>> What to do?
37:41
>> You better have your you better have
37:42
your eyes on it.
37:43
>> Okay.
37:44
>> Like
37:46
it's crazy how
37:49
a lot of artists, not let's say
37:52
celebrities,
37:54
don't know how much money they have. If
37:56
you got to call somebody
37:59
to ask them how much money, like I don't
38:01
understand that. And I used to be that
38:02
person so I can speak.
38:04
>> Accountants and all that. No, I can open
38:07
my app right now and see everything.
38:09
>> I control it. I control it. Um, my
38:12
manager, I feel I got the best manager
38:13
in the game. I feel like every artist
38:15
going to say that. Every I feel like I
38:16
got the best manager in the game because
38:19
he taught me so much stuff. And I think,
38:22
you know, when you get blessed to get it
38:23
again.
38:24
>> Yeah. And at this age, you know, God God
38:26
will give it to you. You know what I'm
38:28
saying? You gonna run through the bad.
38:29
You gonna have your fun and you gonna
38:30
bump your noggin a couple times. That's
38:32
normal. But if you get blessed to get it
38:35
again
38:36
>> and you at this age, you know, 27, 28
38:39
going up to Oh, you going to appreciate
38:41
a little different.
38:42
>> And I'm glad cuz I feel like I got
38:43
everything out the way.
38:44
>> So, all I'm doing now is just investing
38:46
and stacking. It's for my kids. Like,
38:48
I'm
38:49
>> I got everything I wanted. I might
38:51
>> want one more thing, but there's nothing
38:53
else that I want. And you you know you
38:54
work so hard you never want to look up
38:57
and be like I did all this work. I'm a
38:59
legend. I'm goated and all this. But
39:01
what do that mean? I ain't got nothing
39:03
to show for it. So when you hear me say
39:06
I got one car. I got two cars. You know
39:07
what I'm saying? Like I don't I barely
39:09
leave my house.
39:10
>> Yeah.
39:10
>> Like I told you, I barely leave my
39:12
house. Everything I need is in my crib.
39:14
I got one car. Um
39:17
>> two cars cuz I got the the Sprinter,
39:19
right?
39:20
>> But that's all I need. I'm good. I done
39:21
drove everything. Like I don't care
39:23
about like that. So I'm glad like for me
39:24
starting out young. A lot of people
39:25
always ask me you you you rather have
39:27
start off when you did or start off now.
39:28
I'm like no when I did cuz I got out the
39:30
way.
39:30
>> Now I'm I'm still young. I'm still with
39:32
late 30s. But
39:34
>> I'm still getting a bag. So I look at it
39:37
way differently now. You know what I
39:38
mean? I know how to manage it now.
39:40
>> You get to educate your children. Yes.
39:42
>> Oh yeah. Shai is terrible with money. We
39:44
want to talk about money management.
39:45
>> Yeah.
39:46
>> Oh my god. Like, but it's cool because I
39:48
from my L's that I've taken, I can teach
39:50
her and I can tell her like right now
39:51
I'm telling her everything like, "Yo,
39:53
there's no reason why you ain't got
39:54
$5,000 in your
39:55
>> pocket."
39:56
>> You get paid every Friday from that.
39:58
It's automatic.
39:59
>> Mhm.
40:00
>> But you know, teenage girl, she get that
40:02
bag, go get them nails done, feet done,
40:04
she all this stuff. [laughter]
40:06
Dad, dad, I'm down to $70.
40:08
>> You give her a weekly a weekly
40:10
allowance.
40:10
>> Every Friday, my daughter get paid.
40:12
>> Wow.
40:13
>> Every Friday. Is she she in your
40:15
corporation or
40:16
>> she gets paid every Friday.
40:18
>> Damn.
40:19
>> And I mean blowing through it. So I'll
40:22
be having to tell her say, "Listen,
40:23
>> in two weeks you had a thousand." Like
40:25
you about you
40:27
>> 15.
40:29
>> $1,000 is a lot.
40:30
>> Yeah.
40:30
>> It's like, "No, Dad, you doing a lot.
40:32
Dad, when you was 15, we ain't talking
40:33
about that. [laughter]
40:36
You got to keep I'm a real parent." I'm
40:39
like, "No, $1,000." I said, "If I would
40:41
to ask your grandmother, if I wasn't
40:43
famous, I had to go get mine. That's dad
40:45
money. I work for mine." You You a kid.
40:48
You depend on dad right now. I'm telling
40:50
you, if I was to ask your grandmother
40:53
>> for $1,000 at 15 years old,
40:57
>> man, my mom ain't what
40:59
>> I was scared to get 100 was like 100
41:02
fans like
41:02
>> Yeah.
41:03
>> for chores. I'm like, "You got it made.
41:05
You get paid every Friday." I said, "All
41:08
I need you to do is stack. You got two
41:09
days." I said, "Friday you out of
41:10
school. All right, you might do
41:12
something movie, whatever. Saturday, I
41:14
get it. Sunday, you should be spending
41:16
no money. Mama at the house cooking it
41:18
Sunday dinner. Grandma, like, what are
41:20
you spending money for? You should be
41:22
doubling up, tripling up every day." So,
41:23
I'll be telling her that. But it's very
41:25
important. You got to know what you
41:26
making. You got to know what's going on.
41:27
And like I said, my team, every tour we
41:30
do, I see everything. I don't give a
41:32
damn. Eddie tell you shake his head. He
41:34
showed me the towels. This how many
41:36
towels you wiped your face off with on
41:38
stage. Oh, that's where that went to.
41:40
That's where that went to the tour. But
41:42
the dot dot dot
41:44
>> I don't think a lot of managers doing
41:45
that with their just like you about to
41:47
make 20 million and I'm about to make 20
41:49
million and you don't even understand
41:51
what's going on. You don't understand
41:53
fuel cost for your tour bus or you
41:54
thought no you paid for your tour bus.
41:56
No, it cost you a hundred,000 to it. So
41:59
then you when you learn that stuff the
42:00
next time you go out you know what not
42:02
to do. Not check. Mm- give me a bus from
42:05
2018. We need 2025. Give me that that
42:07
bus. $80,000 less. That's cool. We going
42:10
to move like it's it's is it's business.
42:12
And I think you got to approach it like
42:13
that. Got you got to stay.
42:15
>> I love that, man. Bow Wow is here, man.
42:17
We talking about man, he's
42:19
>> First of all, we're talking about life,
42:21
but the Boys for Life
42:23
>> tour ticketmaster.com.
42:25
Get your tickets. They're available now.
42:27
The 20-year reunion with B2K performing
42:30
together.
42:31
>> Uh Bowwick everybody.
42:33
>> Pretty Rick, you going to be there.
42:35
Jeremiah Walker Flocka, Young Jock,
42:38
Crime Mob.
42:39
>> That's going to be crazy.
42:40
>> Yeah, you going you can make love, cry,
42:41
and fight all in one.
42:42
>> One concert, right?
42:44
>> One concert.
42:45
>> You can make love, fight, and cry one
42:47
night.
42:47
>> Whole concert. I'm I got to get our
42:49
callers that's been sitting just
42:50
listening to this magnificent
42:52
conversation. Shaki in North Carolina.
42:54
What up, Shakyia?
42:56
>> Shakia.
42:57
>> Hey. Hey, SW.
42:59
>> Hey. What's up? What's up, Shakia?
43:00
What's up, lady?
43:01
>> What up?
43:02
>> What up, Shakia?
43:02
>> What part of North Carolina?
43:03
>> My first time calling, but I've been
43:05
listening to your voice for years.
43:07
>> We got a first time caller. [screaming]
43:10
>> Yes.
43:13
>> Look, and it took a while to get me to
43:14
call in the show. I love you so much.
43:18
>> I love you, too. What part of North
43:19
Carolina you from?
43:21
>> I'm from Carrie.
43:22
>> I'm from Carrie.
43:23
>> Oh, okay. All right. She ain't too far
43:25
from North Carolina.
43:27
>> Oh, that's near Atlanta. That's near a
43:29
>> Oh, yeah. North Carolina around the
43:30
block. Straight up 85. Straight up 85
43:32
North. She know what it is.
43:34
>> Straight up 85. Appreciate that.
43:35
>> I've been listening to you. I've been
43:37
loving you and listening to you since I
43:39
was an itty bitty little girl.
43:41
>> Um, I do have a request if that's okay.
43:44
>> A request. What's your request? Go
43:46
ahead.
43:46
>> Oh, damn. Uh oh. [laughter] I didn't
43:48
know this.
43:52
>> My [snorts] birthday is April 19th and
43:54
you have a show in North Carolina on
43:56
April 18th. So, I was wondering if I
43:59
could get a ticket because I want to see
44:00
you so so bad.
44:02
>> Oh, you want the free be
44:05
>> for her birthday? For her birthday.
44:06
>> Birthday.
44:07
>> It's my birthday.
44:08
>> Talking about every dollar.
44:09
>> You got to send a copy of your birthday.
44:11
>> That's not the Charlotte show. Is that
44:13
the Charlotte show? Is Charlotte the
44:14
only North Carolina date? I think.
44:16
>> No, it's in Greensboro on the 18th.
44:18
>> Oh, we do do Greensboro. You're right.
44:19
We do do Greensboro and Charlotte every
44:21
time. Greensboro.
44:22
>> Yeah, Greensboro. What do you think?
44:23
>> You know what?
44:25
I'm I'm with our PR right now from the
44:27
tour and she's thumbing through her
44:28
iPhone smiling because she know I'm
44:30
about to tell her we got to hook her up.
44:31
>> Can we?
44:32
>> We got her. Greens, bro. I got you.
44:34
That's your birthday. And I'm going make
44:34
you get meet and greets too so you can
44:36
meet me.
44:36
>> Okay.
44:37
>> Oh, wow. That's nice. [laughter]
44:39
>> All right. So So ju just just I love you
44:42
too. Just stay on the line so we can get
44:44
your information. All that. Don't hang
44:45
up. You hang up. You done is open.
44:46
>> Don't hang on. Don't hang up. [laughter]
44:48
>> Hook her up. Keani.
44:49
>> She on line three. So get the
44:51
information. Pass [clears throat] it to
44:52
the PR. Listen, you got to come back. We
44:54
got to do a part two.
44:55
>> Yep.
44:56
>> I knew you was going to do that. I'm
44:57
going to be ready for your ass, too.
44:58
>> Okay. I'm ready for what?
45:00
>> FIVE FINGERS.
45:00
>> YOU READY AGAIN?
45:02
>> NO. WHEN I COME BACK,
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>> LOOK. SEE? Swing like this. Look. Look.
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So, you ready now?
45:06
>> All right. When I come back,
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>> we need a new one.
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>> That f That first one was
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>> That's why I don't want to do it again
45:11
cuz that first one was killer. That one
45:14
was so viral.
45:14
>> That's why I want to do a light mic to a
45:16
road battle. Why you not doing it? Cuz
45:18
when you do It's like
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>> That first one
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>> that went everywhere, bro.
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>> I know. [laughter]
45:23
And I don't think people, you know,
45:25
remember that you got it like that.
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>> I got you. When I come back and see you,
45:29
I got you on the co-host with us, too.
45:32
>> Okay. And co-host with us, too, man.
45:33
Come on, man. We do the same things now.
45:35
>> Stop playing. All right. Uh, hey, man.
45:37
Make sure y'all get your tickets, boys,
45:39
for life tour.
45:40
>> 20 year anniversary. Ticketmaster.com.
45:43
Salute to you, brother.
45:45
>> You all love you been homie. You already
45:46
know, man.
45:47
>> You always been the same since day one
45:48
since a jit in this game, bro. You
45:50
always been
45:51
>> You always been there like always. And
45:53
I'm watching too. Just so y'all know,
45:54
you know I'm a
45:54
>> Yeah, I know.
45:55
>> a a hip-hop baby. You know I stay
45:56
watching.
45:57
>> I watch everything.
45:58
>> I know it, man. That's what I love about
45:59
you, family. Hey, man. And now I can
46:02
take it I can take insight from you. So
46:04
it don't matter who's older,
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>> right? Who who got it to give
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>> and so you gave us a lot today.
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>> All right. All right. Moss, y'all, aka
46:12
Bow Wow in the building.
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>> Shout out to Ohio, too. Atlanta, what
46:14
up? You know what it is.
46:16
>> All right. Okay. And uh we want to say
46:18
thank you to
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