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hey Rod uncle Rod man thank you for
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coming here today
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um
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well it's a pleasure to have you man I I
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tell this story and it sounds like I'm
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joking and I'm just happy to celebrate
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these lives but and I think citizens if
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you got people who play pivotal Parts in
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your transformation that you remember
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they may not even know how much they
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impacted you you know I always remind
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him how much he impacted us you know
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because you used to wear
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business attire
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when we were younger right in the house
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yes
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right no we came into the house with
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business side we worked for Corporate
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America well I work for Corporate
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America yeah Pacific Bell and then we
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come in dress like that and and we're
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talking 80s right like the 80s yes and
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uh so you can imagine how influential it
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was for us what did you do for Pacific
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Bell uh we were part of the uh Pacific
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Bell was sued for not having enough
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diversity and we were the first wave of
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black managers that Pacific Bell was
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ordered to hire in their consent decree
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and they didn't want us there but he
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showed them not only did we belong there
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we were better than most of the people
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they had there uncle Rod how did they
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show that that your presence was
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discussed to them
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uh by the jobs they gave us as managers
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they usually gave us jobs that everybody
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else had failed at or didn't want and
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they said we have an opportunity for you
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can you take this job if you can't do it
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then you're no better than anybody else
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and most of those jobs we excelled at
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what would it excelled at look like how
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what would a yield what did you yield
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like how did you improve their business
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as an example
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MCI was suing all the Bell companies all
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over the country they actually their
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legal department was actually a profit
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and Law Center they made more money from
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suing the bill companies than they did
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actually providing telecommunications so
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I was given the job of being their
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account manager
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very adversarial can you handle MCI
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nobody else first thing I did was uh
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take them to a Warriors game
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yeah
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took them took him to a Warriors game
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had them meet Al Idols for dinner
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um
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after that we were cool
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it's called the smooth out yeah Pacific
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Bell was was the first company that they
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stopped suing wow
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yes and then after that job they kept
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fighting more and more and whatever job
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I had
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I usually when I left that job they
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usually put two or three people to do
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the job
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you you eventually
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um uh was Frank a part of that too Frank
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and Ernest Boykin
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Ernest Boykin doctor uh what's
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Ernest nickname but was it just Earnest
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boy Ernie Ernie Frank Tucker Frank
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Tucker um and um um Dr J Dr J Frank
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Marty Marty uh rest in power right
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became one of the most reputable Sports
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reporters yes he did yes indeed and I
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remember when he was sleeping on my
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couch
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they all used to sleep on your couch
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that's true these are your cousins these
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are his peer groups they were like my
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uncles got it your crew my crew you and
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Frank
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um you guys started another company
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right well he started
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um he retired well he left the Pacific
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Bell first and he started his own
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company uh F2 and then became uh Tucker
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technology and then when I retired
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I actually worked with them when I
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retired okay and what what does and
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which Tucker technology which is now run
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by his daughter Conchita Tucker
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who I used to babysit alongside Chris
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right right yes passing the Baton we
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just spoke about this they what was that
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well did y'all work in fiber optics at
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that time we were doing the same
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telecommunications work that we were
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doing for Pacific Bells except now we
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were hiring the people to work on the
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jobs
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okay now this I'm just set giving you an
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idea of when you are exposed to certain
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people and certain things how it can
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affect you and so having seen him as a
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young man walk in the house with a
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business suit in a briefcase and they
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worked hard but citizens I am here to
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tell you I've never seen people work as
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hard as them and I've never to this day
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seen people party as hard as they did I
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made my fortune as a youth babysitting
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their kids
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wow
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and so Rod went on also was influential
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in our track club that we had our AAU
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track team and he was one of the fathers
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that would come out a lot of kids and
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have fathers in the house yeah and um a
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lot of these guys have became bonus dads
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for us and then right you know kind of
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introduced how to be more are sincere
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and debonair and forward thinking when
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you talk to you know women and
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relationships
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I wanted to set him up right first I
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don't want to just throw him out there
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right let you know this man is this man
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of substance right you know but
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I never thought about that sort of thing
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until he start making fun of us about
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not talking to girls and stuff
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um was that um
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a method for you to get us out teach us
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how to socialize better or will you just
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making fun of us back then oh no you you
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guys will make were
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when we were at the 1980 Track Club I
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remember we went on this trip and
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everybody was talking about oh this is
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terrible and and they kept talking about
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oh what's wrong what's wrong
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and I got all of the troublemakers yeah
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yeah right yeah so as opposed to
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everybody else had age groups I had the
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full range of age groups but you know
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they're mainly junior high school and
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they're like used to terrorizing all the
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other coaches wow so the first night we
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were in there they get up and they're
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talking about how pretty their feet look
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oh oh we got pretty feet
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that's why you always throw your socks
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around
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so you can stay at your Twinkle Toes
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right I know them feet ain't pretty they
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work right
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so that's how the story goes so then I
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take my shoes off and they're like oh
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look at your feet they're horrible look
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at your toes and all I said was well
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this is what happens when you have sex
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oh this is how you can tell who who by
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their toes the next thing you know at
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the meat they're running around telling
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everybody how ugly their feet are
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and the other coaches and the field why
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you why do you want to have ugly feet oh
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no you gotta understand yeah my toes are
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ugly that's all they kept saying for the
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rest of their life or how ugly their
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toys
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[Music]
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to this day right to this day wow is
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this the origin story of the Octagon
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absolutely
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on my personal relationships or somehow
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he has something to do with it
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this is true okay okay damn and then I
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had no more problems now they said teach
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us more teach me more oh that was right
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but you handed yourself with a certain
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amount of sophistication that um I
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appreciate it I think we all appreciate
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it and it gave us a lot of confidence we
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weren't seeing we it's not like we
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didn't see a bunch of black men at that
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time but what he's talking about in
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Corporate America coming in to pack bail
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and you know being a mediator for
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adversarial relationships and and then
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also creating systems that helped their
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quarter leads grow and you know we
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weren't seeing that and even if it was
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happening it wasn't being reported but
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we have first-hand experience so it let
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me know when I start going into
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Corporate America early
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um how to conduct myself because the way
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he is now it's the way he was then so
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actually probably a woman might think
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had a little arrogance about him did you
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get that a lot
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no okay we what we knew why they brought
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us in and we knew that they were trying
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to do everything they can to say well we
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tried it and it didn't work so that's
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why they gave us the jobs that nobody
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else were they originally set us up we
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had media wreck so we had all the TV
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stations all the radio station we had
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all the sports teams and they thought if
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we keep you out in the public and the
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public can see you they can see how bad
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you guys are doing and that'll help us
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we end up making media wreck the number
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one uh group in all of Pacific Bell wow
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this is where I thought I had died and
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gone to heaven when they told me you're
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you have to work the Raider games on the
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weekends I said what
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yeah you have to make sure all the
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phones are working throughout the
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stadium I said including the locker room
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so you can go anywhere that the Raiders
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go and actually became personal friends
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with a lot of the Raiders go ahead and
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stunt name something wow Lindsay yeah
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Lindsay
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um Jack Tatum
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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Kenny King
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no I don't know
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Lindsay what's Lindsay's last name
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Taylor Nancy Taylor nice right he was
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offensive lineman yes Nancy Taylor man
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boy boy oh boy man we got uh we got
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Cedric on the line you got a question
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from my uncle I'm upset go ahead brother
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he's in New Orleans good morning good
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morning everybody good morning what's up
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brother
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um I got a quick question
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um what was it like uh raising Sway and
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like how like what
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is there like any type of uh like books
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or anything that you gave him for like
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knowledge because I have an
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eight-year-old and a seven year old and
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I'm trying to teach them about like
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lying and stuff like that I sure don't
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like the Emmett Till story and stuff
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like that and how it could affect people
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like what are some tips you can give on
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like raising somebody because I think
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you did an amazing job with like helping
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race like you said I appreciate you said
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hey yo set a prize pack
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[Laughter]
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you keep you keep giving them those
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books and keep talking with them about
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those books they may not uh act like at
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this point they they know or care about
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it but you've put the seed in their mind
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that later on in life they'll say oh wow
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my son I used to make him listen to a
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lot of Santana when I was growing up and
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he was like oh I hate Santana Oh this is
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boring and then when he got older he
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said when I guess Santana won his first
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Grammy yep
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Lauren Hill and all those that's not
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real Santana he met his one of his first
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girls doing that saying oh no let me
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tell you what real Santana sounds like
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and Clay blues for salvation blues for
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Salvador which is unless you're a
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Santana fan and the young lady was so
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impressed that he knew that he was like
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yeah my dad taught me that yeah the
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music you listen to that you like today
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your son will your children will
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appreciate them later that's true what
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was the song again
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blues for Salvador
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Salvador that was the album and then you
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had Caravan Sarai right those two albums
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all right you do good with that said
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yeah I'm good I appreciate that man
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thank y'all for letting me too
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thank you you know uncle Rod a lot of
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times the elders have a hunch of what
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the youngins are gonna be right
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career-wise when they grow up so
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obviously I want to know did you see any
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of this entertainment industry sway
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becoming an artist being in front of so
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many different types of microphones or
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is this a surprise oh no it's not a
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surprise he was a very arrogant young
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man
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oh no they thought they knew everything
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yeah Uncle Rob
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this is where I come in go ahead Uncle
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Rob and so our job was to smack them
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down periodically disability
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about when they were 13-4 and we had an
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annual Thanksgiving basketball game and
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they would come out and play they'd and
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on and football game and they'd run
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their plays and at this point we're like
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28 29. it's still you know kind of prime
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yeah
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and we would just whoop them
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and every year they thought they would
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get better and better well when they
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turned 21 was it 21
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okay
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they come to play out some basketball
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they're throwing alley-oops and they're
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doing dunks right like trying to
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intimidate us we're like are you kidding
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me all right let's play
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they do their first come down to court
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they throw up the alley-oop and I just
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grab them around the waist and walk them
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out to the foul line and say foul
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take if you think you're going to come
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and just don't we're in the park there
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ain't no limit to fouls nobody files
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let's play the game right they got so
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frustrated they lost to us
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well that story changed that goal post
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move every year
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and the day he's talking about is cousin
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Chuck and T Callaway
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me chucking 10. boy we was coming to
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embarrass them stories yeah did you see
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how music was starting to really
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influence his life oh he had been
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writing music what were you saying you
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were riding it on in the middle of the
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night under the covers in the dark yeah
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he was in writing yeah yeah I think um
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um
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yeah man that whole time we were
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I think the arrogance though was we were
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always in a competitive yes environment
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like from it was competitive in the
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Callaway house for food
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you know it was he wanted to be first
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everything was competitive so running
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track
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it does nothing but promote competition
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right healthy competition right and so
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as young men I think we got our footing
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by winning so much right and gave us
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that confidence but it was we traveled
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all over the country and they hadn't and
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and we built that arrogance like if you
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go in with this attitude that I'm good
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you know no matter what anybody else won
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what anybody else said you have to think
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that you're good when you go in damn it
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sense and he's they've they've all
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carried that throughout their life
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this also is really making me understand
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why you're such a sore loser
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oh yeah
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[Music]
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I ain't in my vocabulary my body doesn't
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digest losing right because you already
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decided
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it definitely I realized what a lot of
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that confidence was necessary especially
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in the business world yeah because as a
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teenager I started having some really
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big meetings in the industry um in
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record business you know sitting with
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heads of companies And discussing these
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contracts and at that time I was like I
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got it
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you know I can figure this out you know
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that and a lot of it came with that time
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period that he was there I got his son
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with us right now too cousin Chris
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we're gonna come back and talk with
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cousin Chris you guys Chris what was it
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like being babysitted by me
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it was tough times this way was eating
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all the rap snacks
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you know what this is Chris yeah this is
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on the the blues for Salvador album It's
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called Santana turn that up Sway in the
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morning at the beat Tracy G uncle Rod
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cousin Chris in the whole game today
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742-3345 Sway in the Morning
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Billy Tom Tracy G I got my uncle Rod in
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here having some great conversations and
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just talking about this importance and
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the impact um that people help people
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influence your life you know you never
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do it on your own I don't care who you
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are what you've accomplished how far
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you've gone none of us have done it on
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our own and I like to acknowledge those
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people who played instrumental Parts in
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my Evolution as a as a as a man and so
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uncle Rod is here you know you see how
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he's sitting Heather he's still got that
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arrogance thing you won't admit to I
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like Uncle Ryan hey man what do you
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think about these Banks closing down
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right now have you been read up on that
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uh just the Silicon Valley Bank yeah
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closed down but they're gonna get
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propped up by billionaires anyway
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because there's too much they have too
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much money going through that bank
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so propped up meaning they're going to
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get a uh a relief plan they are
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currently pushing on Biden to give them
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a bailout you know when when any when
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they get a bailout it's a bailout you
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know the regular people it's it's uh
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social welfare yeah but they but they're
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getting the same thing yeah so it's
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social where welfare when the country
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bail out the automotive industry when
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the country bails out this bank right
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that's the same thing right but it's but
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they put them on the on the little
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people oh you're stealing oh you're this
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where they're giving all that money to
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the big Banks and stuff this is the same
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process do you foresee
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um more of it and do you think this
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country is headed to I'm just going off
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the cuff right here to change the
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banking system all together where the
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currency won't even be the same where
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there'll be a new currency introduced
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which will
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really change things around and I'm just
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going off the cuff he'll real me reel me
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in uncle Rod what are your thoughts uh
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not unless the powers that be the bigger
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Banks and stuff allow it if they see a
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profit in it then they will do that if
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they see no profit for them coming
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through this then they're not going to
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change anything because they're
19:59
controlling the money flow now
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throughout the world so unless the money
20:03
flow becomes better for them changing
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currency changing to crypto the rest of
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that stuff and not using coins and they
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can track it the way they want
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I don't see that anytime within the next
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50 60 years
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okay all right
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um
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how do you feel about the progression of
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the black community
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um in a in the in the time from when you
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first started working in Corporate
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America to now we know the wealth Gap is
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it's going backwards it's going
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backwards yeah it's it's it's gone it's
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gone backwards as far as I see when and
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I guess it's the time period so growing
20:46
up in New York and looking uh watching
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Godfather of Harlem
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1964. all that was going on in New York
20:56
is what I'm growing up to and you know
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you got Malcolm X you've got Adam
21:03
Clayton Paul do you have all of these
21:05
things going on black panthers all going
21:07
on and we're watching and growing and
21:09
being a part of that
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the rest of the country
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was not part of that there were Parts
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like parts of Texas and parts of other
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places they don't have that
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understanding so when you go before
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um
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Corporate America for instance or you go
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forward you're used to having a certain
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arrogance when you go look I am what I
21:34
want and this is what I want
21:36
and they're used to beating you down
21:39
and intimidating you out of it and most
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places I see
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people get comfortable and then you know
21:47
they're just comfortable so they don't
21:48
want to do anything to
21:51
become uncomfortable yeah so they let it
21:54
ride especially the middle class and the
21:56
rest of that they've made their money
21:57
they're like okay this is good I've seen
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people in politics that were going to
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fight and do this and once they get in
22:04
their their answer is well I just got to
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get reelected again right
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so all the processes that we need to
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have happening for us people aren't
22:13
doing they say they're going to do it to
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get in and then once they get in their
22:18
whole job is to maintain getting
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reelected and so they're not pushing the
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programs that need to be pushed sound
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like Mike Muse
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okay right let's let's touch on hip hop
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a bit no I feel like every stage of
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hip-hop
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um there's always a generation I think
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beneath that has some criticism that
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remembers hip-hop at a different time
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and I think you're in such an
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interesting position where you remember
22:46
life before the presence of hip-hop at
22:48
all the birth what did you think when
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you first started hearing this boom bap
22:53
when you first started seeing what
22:56
it was shaping sway like did you did you
23:00
welcome of Open Arms did it come as a
23:02
bit strange to you did you look at it as
23:04
a trend
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um all the above because that was the
23:09
same thing they said about our music
23:10
right you know when we would listen to
23:12
rhythm and blues and we were listening
23:14
to Santana and you know those people
23:17
like oh that was that's horrible you
23:19
can't do it
23:20
then their music started but you could
23:23
still dance to it as a matter of fact I
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remember uh when they were younger and I
23:29
was like nobody wants to hear that music
23:31
that's not music that you're going to
23:33
hear later on in life partying too but
23:37
you know that's what you like and then
23:41
uh I guess maybe about
23:44
two years ago yeah I put on hip-hop from
23:48
the 90s and I partied all day because I
23:53
then realized that was the music in the
23:56
clubs when I was going when I was
23:59
starting
24:01
right
24:03
I was like oh another one let me
24:07
apologize to you I've just spent six
24:10
hours listening to hip-hop of the 90s
24:13
saying yeah I remember that yeah that
24:16
was good yeah right yeah what are some
24:19
of your favorites like artists oh my
24:21
favorite artist Tupac
24:26
that's my favorite
24:27
[Applause]
24:29
and there's a
24:32
uh one time I went when I went to Europe
24:35
one year
24:36
I went to see a group okay
24:39
um an old black blues group and they
24:41
were playing they were great they got
24:43
seven standing ovations so I said wow do
24:47
you all ever come play in the united
24:49
they were called the Chicago Blues Band
24:51
I said well when do y'all play in the
24:53
United States they said never
24:55
I said why they said because if we play
24:58
in the United States we'd be at some
24:59
dive and
25:01
no one would be appreciative here they
25:03
appreciate you as an artist just as a
25:07
regular music artist as a painter
25:09
anything they said we appreciate our
25:11
artists so the guy asks for one of the
25:14
people in the audience says who was your
25:16
favorite group in that time I was saying
25:17
Earth Wind and Fire Stevie Wonder and he
25:20
said do you have every album they ever
25:23
made I said no I just have the albums I
25:25
like then they said you are a not true
25:28
fan of that artist
25:29
because he says if you get a van Gogh do
25:32
you throw away some van goghs you try to
25:35
collect them all because that way you
25:37
watch the artist's Evolution and if you
25:40
are a true fan you go through this whole
25:43
understand their whole journey through
25:45
their music and I said well I guess I
25:48
need to become a star that is what fool
25:52
Chaka Khan
25:53
Chaka Khan at one point decided she
25:57
wanted to do jazz
25:59
and in Europe because she's Chaka Khan
26:02
and she has her fans they would give up
26:04
seven standing ovations she was like oh
26:07
I guess they like it I remember going to
26:09
her first concert when she came to
26:12
United States and did Chaka Khan they
26:14
booed her they wanted I want I'm Every
26:17
Woman They want to hear the sound oh
26:19
they don't want to hear the Jazz they
26:20
did not want to hear her Jazz and she
26:23
was like what I I was just in Europe
26:24
because they actually most artists try
26:27
their music out in Europe because of the
26:29
different appreciation for the music and
26:31
they say okay we try this they liked it
26:33
when we come to the states we're we're
26:36
going to do the same thing and the
26:37
states were like nah we want to hear
26:39
what we want to hear wow what part of
26:41
Europe were you with uh at that point we
26:44
were in Paris and then uh what was that
26:46
first Chaka Khan concert what city was
26:48
that in that you went to in Oakland
26:55
so uh Uncle Rod's son here big Chris
26:59
Chris what's up man Christmas yeah cause
27:02
I feel like swear you've been avoiding
27:03
this whole babysitter situation like I
27:06
think that's made it was only so much
27:07
time
27:09
off my on the side I know we may need to
27:12
tap into some of this trauma
27:16
maybe having a moment here
27:22
big computer group bullied us what was
27:24
it like for you growing up like with us
27:26
around me Terry Chuck quasi everybody he
27:30
was home-cooked fries for breakfast
27:32
home-cooked fries for lunch for dinner
27:35
if you can make it to the kitchen in the
27:37
pot in time to grab the hot fries
27:39
yourself then you made it
27:41
you gotta wait to the next time which is
27:43
the next day did you have fun though I
27:45
had I had a lot of fun I remember
27:46
actually
27:48
one of the strong memories I have is uh
27:51
you guys were babysitting me of course
27:52
uh you uh cousin Terry cousin Chuck and
27:56
somebody called y'all in a rotary that's
27:59
how old a rotary phone somebody
28:01
explained what that is
28:04
somebody must have called you guys and
28:06
said hey we're at the park and so it's
28:09
late at night we all go to some park
28:12
somewhere in Oakland and then there's
28:14
these girls there and they brought the
28:16
boom box I remember everyone out there
28:18
talking and I remember uh he's a cousin
28:23
Terry or or you is probably both of you
28:25
guys know how to do backflips foreign
28:31
so entertaining at the time and uh I
28:34
remember I was probably like six or five
28:36
years old but uh I feel like I snatched
28:38
one of y'all girls that day
28:41
I felt like that I don't know if you
28:43
guys made me feel like that I don't know
28:45
but I appreciate that young man didn't
28:47
know what was really going on
28:49
I appreciate it part of his ignorance as
28:52
a kid we were using you to get girls we
28:55
weren't you weren't snatching nothing
28:58
to this day I did not know that yeah
29:01
that's such a cute dude look how cute
29:04
this dude was wow what a hater hater
29:08
look like Kincaid yeah
29:10
[Music]
29:12
um let me ask you how many years did you
29:13
do in the service uh 20 years six months
29:17
15 days yeah wow did you remember it
29:19
like that we appreciate you man for your
29:22
service to this country yes thank you
29:24
just don't make me do it again he was in
29:26
the Navy in the Navy yeah wow wow
29:30
um big dogs I know you had to do some
29:32
missions that you can't talk about right
29:34
yes you could say yes yes today okay all
29:38
right so you've seen some things you
29:39
can't discuss
29:42
yeah okay
29:45
President Biden has now opened up
29:48
Pandora's Box apparently he's commented
29:51
on some of these unidentified flying
29:53
objects that have been shot down and I'm
29:55
not talking about the balloon
29:59
I know exactly what you're talking about
30:01
yeah
30:02
and your career with the Navy did you
30:05
ever see something you couldn't explain
30:07
in the sky
30:09
yes
30:11
I have you want me to elaborate on that
30:13
I see this it's a long pause here
30:16
this is a radio station we're live
30:19
around the world right
30:21
I mean we just I mean if you if you just
30:23
look up really if you just look up at
30:25
the sky if you're in an area where
30:26
there's not a lot of light pollution uh
30:29
out there and you just look up you're
30:30
bound to see something and you know
30:32
being out there in the Pacific Ocean the
30:34
middle of the Indian Ocean Persian Gulf
30:35
whatever you look up at night time
30:37
you're gonna see something move you're
30:39
going to see something move in a you
30:40
know funny way that you haven't seen a
30:41
move before but uh if you just pay
30:43
attention everyone can see it it's not
30:45
just because I was in the Navy I was
30:47
seeing this on on on dry land so yeah
30:50
it's I think that there's something out
30:53
there I mean if I put a percentage on it
30:55
I would say I was 99 sure there is
31:00
something out there that I can see with
31:03
my eyes if I just look up oh okay but
31:06
you can't you can't say what that
31:08
something is it could be man-made you
31:10
know I don't so I'm not I'm not I'm not
31:13
that deep into the military Illuminati
31:15
so I don't know
31:20
you don't have clearance yeah you got
31:22
the clearance they tell me I got the
31:24
clearance but I got the clearance
31:25
clearance what ranking did you uh reach
31:27
uh only up to Senior Chief Senior Chief
31:29
Petty Officer I was the I.T Senior Chief
31:32
yeah okay so I.T you you work around
31:36
um security it was uh yeah some of this
31:39
involved security it's a crypto security
31:42
uh network communications radio
31:45
communications uh all that stuff to
31:47
allow
31:49
other Sailors on the ship to communicate
31:51
on Facebook Instagram and all that while
31:52
at Sea okay when you what's the longest
31:55
you've been out at sea longest at Sea
31:58
was probably uh
32:01
two months so probably yeah 60 days just
32:05
over 60 days what made you go into the
32:07
military like I'm always wondering my
32:09
neighbor's kid just went into the
32:11
military and
32:13
it was it's so strange because it was
32:16
almost like punishment for him like he
32:19
was he was acting up and his mom
32:22
literally told him he had to go to the
32:24
military but I don't get that from you
32:26
like getting hap you know sitting here
32:28
listening to all the stories but so what
32:30
was your decision well it wasn't his
32:33
decision
32:41
be careful should we bring Bros in on
32:44
this conversation this was even before
32:47
rose right oh
32:48
oh yeah so I think my dad
32:51
my dad made the the he brought it up to
32:55
me in the car one day and you know he
32:57
always just saying don't join the
32:59
military I joined the military I did it
33:00
already so you don't have to do it so
33:02
but it was a certain time my life got
33:04
kind of kind of rough at a time real
33:06
short moment and uh I didn't like how I
33:10
felt during that time during that moment
33:11
how did you feel I feel like you know is
33:14
you know am I going to eat today is
33:16
there is there home cooked fries for me
33:17
for breakfast lunch and dinner yes you
33:19
appreciated them fries yeah exactly I
33:21
don't want to go back to those fries how
33:23
hard is this floor gonna be is it going
33:24
to be a mattress or gonna be a floor so
33:26
it had to have some kind of that
33:27
humbleness to when I actually went to
33:30
the recruiter and said hey I need to go
33:31
now today is a day and they were hyped
33:34
up about that and they you know back
33:35
then it was easier to join yeah so I
33:37
think I was able to leave within the
33:39
week and boot camp just flew by because
33:42
you know I was getting paid I was having
33:45
a place to eat uh you know I had some
33:48
type of purpose yeah so you know I felt
33:51
motivated by that but now that's over
33:53
now just don't make me do it again okay
33:55
I like that story I don't really
33:58
remember it that way well how do you
33:59
remember it then
34:00
I remember come on tell it
34:07
you went to Hampton yes first so I
34:10
wanted to okay
34:14
the real hu yeah
34:17
okay all right okay it's real okay so uh
34:21
and I thought that would be great for
34:23
him to historically black college I
34:26
support those so I went down for
34:29
homecoming to visit him
34:31
so I go to the Freshman dorm which is
34:34
James Hall
34:35
you know and I asked everybody where's
34:37
Christopher Stanley nobody can tell me
34:40
where Christopher Stanley is I'm like
34:42
where is Christopher come on so finally
34:44
I told someone how many people from
34:46
California do you have here and they
34:49
said Oh California you mean The
34:51
California Kid yeah yeah everybody knows
34:54
the California The California Kid The
34:57
California Kid wow supposedly he had
35:02
taken on the California Mantra to tell
35:05
them because he said no no nobody here
35:08
except my friends from California he
35:10
told them he was in the blood he was in
35:12
the crypts he told me he knew Snoop Dogg
35:14
he knew every rapper whatever they
35:17
wanted whatever they thought California
35:19
was that's what he would be the
35:22
California kid
35:24
right right that's it the three dubs so
35:28
when I when I first see him he has on a
35:32
Jimi Hendrix vest with the Frills on it
35:35
he has infants incense burning in his
35:37
hair I gotta be whoever got to be one
35:40
day right
35:42
so that went along for a while and then
35:46
he got in trouble at the end and they
35:50
said hey we will have to uh put him out
35:53
and I said what so they said wanted me
35:56
to come down and talk to them about what
35:57
we could do so we go to the
36:01
administration
36:03
and when he's there I see three people
36:06
come in and I had to say uh
36:12
this is not about you
36:14
they're not going to let you in because
36:15
of the sins of the father because that
36:18
woman was head of the Freshman women's
36:19
dog and I gave her a hard time oh my God
36:25
and she's looking at him like oh this is
36:28
your son right hey okay all right
36:36
in a different school so he's riding
36:39
around
36:41
he's in Montgomery Community College he
36:44
gets a sob I suppose a regular car 900 S
36:47
1987. right he's a dashboard I told him
36:51
don't tell people you're from California
36:53
because people think everybody from
36:56
California is rich
36:58
next thing I know he's telling me Oh I'm
37:01
in love oh you're in love oh yeah Dad
37:04
I'm in love I met her at the black book
37:06
store
37:08
and I says oh okay I said what's her
37:11
name Venus damn a government that's the
37:15
government name
37:19
Urban View
37:22
right now much love to y'all follow me
37:24
at the happy hour
37:26
thanks to your dad all right okay thank
37:28
you Heather Heather we'll be back
37:29
tomorrow shootout um holler at Heather B
37:31
at the happy hour whb you already know
37:34
so hold up okay so Venus being at the
37:37
black bookstore okay I'm still listening
37:40
so I asked him does she play tennis and
37:43
he's like no oh okay well what does she
37:47
do oh she's not working right now she's
37:49
a masseuse
37:54
is that what she told you he's like oh
37:58
yes no you you don't understand no I'm
38:01
in Love no you went from high school
38:04
girl to a real woman yeah and you think
38:07
it's love but that's not what it was
38:10
well
38:11
a few months later they were in a fight
38:13
and he's like I need you to come get me
38:17
okay so I fly from California to go get
38:20
it
38:21
and he's like yeah I'm ready to go back
38:23
to the house
38:24
nah I don't think so you know the reason
38:27
I sent you to the east coast was because
38:29
you need to be on your own you need to
38:32
grow up and I've already turned your
38:35
bedroom into my office oh so it from
38:38
this point forward you can come visit me
38:42
every six months for two weeks maximum
38:46
boundaries so so there's no coming back
38:50
laying on my couch and the rest of it so
38:53
what you need to do I took him down to
38:55
the recruiter's office you need to pick
38:57
one of these because if you're going to
38:59
be dating venuses you need to learn how
39:01
to fight
39:05
and that's what he did that's such a
39:08
different story
39:09
in a round of applause for the story
39:13
my God
39:15
shout out to the dads let me ask you
39:18
this Chris uh that was a beautiful story
39:20
too by the way
39:21
um
39:22
you did meet Rose at some point how many
39:25
years down the line did you meet Rose
39:27
wow um so we met in 2001 right uh just a
39:31
couple of days after 9 11. okay
39:33
September 14th and how long had you been
39:36
in the service at that point I really
39:38
just joined
39:39
[Laughter]
39:43
so you have such an amazing family and
39:47
the kids are very
39:49
um uh they they're very individual but
39:52
you know they seem very solid and and
39:54
well bred
39:57
Mike you got great kids and they don't
39:59
seem like I don't know what goes on
40:01
behind closed doors but no one seems
40:03
like they have well all kids have some
40:05
hangovers I could see Gigi over there is
40:07
hard on y'all right now she's going
40:09
through that phase right now we don't
40:12
know nothing she knows I already know
40:14
right she's hip she she come get on the
40:16
mic man come on let's get on the mic
40:18
[Music]
40:19
open
40:21
stuff
40:23
hey DB hook me up real quick
40:26
yeah come over here come over here
40:28
you're gonna come sit next to your big
40:29
cousin you know unfortunately you didn't
40:31
get the opportunity to have me babysit
40:33
you would have been a really good time
40:36
um
40:36
how old are you I'm 15. 15. oh man
40:41
you're right at that age yeah yeah what
40:43
kid are you you the second oldest yeah
40:45
I'm the middle child the middle child
40:47
what what is uh what was it like when
40:50
your dad was in the military but he
40:51
couldn't be home all the time how did
40:53
you see that
40:55
um honestly I was fine with it like I
40:57
remember
40:58
there was a time wasn't it like
41:00
like I didn't know who you were when you
41:02
got home or something and I was like I
41:04
was like who are you why are you in my
41:06
room I think that was every pretty much
41:07
every homecoming
41:09
for real yeah you didn't even know so
41:12
how did you feel when he came on you
41:14
felt like he messed up the vibe or you
41:15
was happy I'm in a little bit it like
41:18
gets it's hard to get used to when he
41:20
gets back home but like after he was
41:22
gone for like a year and then he came
41:24
back I was like
41:26
I kind of missed being like a smaller
41:28
family but it's all right that's real
41:31
this is a very honest family I thought
41:33
you was gonna have some breakthroughs
41:35
here this is it
41:37
so how do you remember you guys like
41:39
bonding once your dad was like back for
41:41
good what are some of those memories
41:45
um
41:49
speak on it I have to think
41:51
um I don't know sometimes we just like
41:54
go around oh and me and uh my dad like
41:57
we connect on music and stuff like oh
41:59
okay so we have that and like I don't
42:02
know just like listening to music
42:03
together
42:04
yeah 15 man that's that age like
42:08
and at the same time man it's hard to be
42:11
understood you know I remember 15. yeah
42:14
I remember that age man where are you at
42:17
with it right now you feel like you uh
42:20
you know you're walking the planet alone
42:21
or
42:23
um I mean last year was like
42:25
like so awful it was
42:28
it was Teenage year but like
42:31
my friends and that's all I need
42:34
honestly for real you don't do no drugs
42:37
or nothing do you no okay good there you
42:39
go I'm gonna go ahead and ask
42:42
so y'all bonded on music your favorite
42:44
artist is
42:46
um I like Tyler the Creator and I like
42:48
BK the ruler and I like
42:50
who else I like Kendrick Lamar
43:00
okay all right well I'll give you a
43:02
pound too all right okay cool
43:05
um Tracy I told them how they missed ice
43:07
spice on Friday oh yes so how did you
43:11
get into ice spice I mean I don't even
43:13
like
43:15
honestly Tick Tock that's how everyone
43:16
knows what I feel like but I'm not I
43:19
don't know a lot a lot of her music but
43:21
I just I think she's really pretty
43:23
that's what I like okay cool you know
43:26
Munch though that's a big song yeah you
43:27
might know that one right yeah in her
43:30
mood
43:31
yeah I like her song with the Pink
43:33
Panthers oh for the boys alive part two
43:36
all right let's throw that munch on see
43:38
how much you like it see if you're a
43:39
real fan I don't know the lyrics you
43:41
don't know not one lyrics throw that on
43:42
let me see It'll come to you what's the
43:44
first video
43:49
oh okay she know boys the live part too
43:51
right we ain't got that instrumental do
43:54
we
44:02
thank you
44:07
okay you know this one
44:10
no no come on let's go come on
44:20
[Music]
44:28
give you time
44:31
okay
44:34
[Music]
44:48
foreign
44:49
[Music]
44:59
[Music]
45:20
[Music]
45:24
[Applause]
45:27
Ginger you a star we gonna make you go
45:29
viral
45:32
you all right over there dad um did you
45:34
just cuss I didn't I could swear you
45:36
just cussed I swear did I I don't think
45:38
I did we not gonna snitch nah you didn't
45:41
okay good I got I got some rankings
45:43
still she cool dude okay all right
45:46
well that was great my little cousin got
45:49
bars
45:50
thank you absolutely thank you for being
45:53
on the show Chris man I want to say I
45:55
love you and the family is amazing love
45:57
you too okay you know we we we're going
45:59
to be celebrating our grandmother's um
46:02
life and times this week as we have our
46:05
Ceremony this week our services are
46:07
taking place so we'll see each other
46:08
again and we're going to celebrate Mama
46:11
Elsie right absolutely and he was all up
46:14
in the house thank you Mommy yes
46:16
everything speak on it man yeah that was
46:18
my grandmother look there was a lot of
46:19
time in my life when I was two years old
46:21
there was a lot of uh I had you know I
46:23
had a I had another grandmother who's
46:25
just turned 100 uh the other day uh but
46:28
you know
46:29
not everybody was as supportive and
46:33
accepting and you know allowing me to
46:36
ransick their house
46:38
I remember we used to put like the the
46:40
pillows on the stairs and the slides and
46:42
slide down yeah yeah she was there for
46:44
me anytime I needed her the doors was
46:47
always open uh and the the part I
46:50
remember about being at Mommy Elsie's
46:52
and stuff's house is that you never know
46:54
who's gonna walk through that door and
46:56
every time someone walked through that
46:57
door it was surprise and everyone's so
46:59
excited to see them I'm gonna miss that
47:01
and I hope we can keep that going well
47:03
we're going we the architects now so we
47:05
got to keep it going yeah because well
47:07
it's the type of house you just you
47:08
write anytime somebody opened the door
47:10
oh
47:12
oh so we we gotta we gotta make sure we
47:15
continue that tradition all right salute
47:18
to your wife
47:20
Rose
47:22
the power source the foundation the
47:26
amount I don't know I don't like Gigi's
47:27
face right there when I said that I
47:29
don't know what that is y'all I don't
47:30
know if y'all feuding right now but
47:31
salute to Rose
47:33
um because you couldn't do what you did
47:35
without her doing what she does and
47:37
keeping the environment in the household
47:40
where uh the kids don't have dysfunction
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uh minimal dysfunction right when
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everybody's not present and so I want to
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say salute to you uh family member
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little cousin you know for for what you
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do and um to the other kids as well
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Nissan Kincaid you know and Arya what's
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up Aria hey hey so um I want to say
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thanks for coming through as we conclude
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this show uncle Rod I love you and uh DB
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if they want to reach you how can they
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reach you everything is that it's really
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DB I'm going to be posting my mix today
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the uh what was it the audio road trip
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yes it's gonna be going up today I just
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got to find a fire cover for it but
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thank you Tracy for that title that was
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a good title too Tracy G how can they
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reaches 20 Instagram it's Tracy g i t s
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t r a c y g torch hit me up at torch
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internet torch ing t-o-n shout out to
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Mike Muse who's on Good Morning America
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three right now and I am Mike Muse Chris
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thank you for coming through man I know
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you're a very secretive guy We're not
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gonna give out our social medias and all
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that stuff okay all right don't even
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worry about it I mean it's private I'm
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sorry secretive and private are two
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different things secretive implies
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something else I'm out real sway across
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the board we got a lot of I can't name
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them all but we got a lot of interviews
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on sway's Universe
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um the latest one I think that's been
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getting a lot of traction is Tyrese's uh
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interview where he speaks his truth so
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make sure y'all go check that out and
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all the other interviews we have on
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slaves Universe we'll be back tomorrow
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God willing in the meantime stay on the
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right side of positivity thank you
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family give my family around
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I love it
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left to say
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