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Nyck Caution On How The Loss Of His Father Inspired His New Album ‘Anywhere But Here’
Jan 21, 2021
Nyck Caution just dropped his latest LP, Anywhere But Here. He called into Sway In The Morning to talk about the influence of the project.
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only make moves for the frozen pro these
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bars the very personification of where
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the mc is on this show keep the flies
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going bars
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tracy g when you look up the word artist
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in his dictionary you see a picture of
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him bars
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let him know first time first time i
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ever heard him spit he did something
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with us over at mtv i went to rob
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markman and said who's that
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[Applause]
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bars
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when we start doing bedroom bars with
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little kiyomi
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he came and spit she was on he was the
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only one my daughter liked
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bars the youth don't lie
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we met artists on the live stream that
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he connected with and made music with
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bars
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and when you sit and tune into this
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album
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that's out today anywhere put here
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[Applause]
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you start hearing layers upon layers
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nuances upon nuances from the artwork to
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the first song to the last
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from the voice of his father to the
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thread of the skits
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my man nick carson put together a great
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body of work
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welcome him back to the show the one and
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only nick carson ladies and gentlemen
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nick carson nick
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carson yeah baby
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come on man i don't even think he was
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gonna make it this morning i saw nick
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sipping on sorak last night
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um on his live stream i was like is
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that's a rock i saw
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a cat chilling with you on the couch i
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was like [ __ ]
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[Laughter]
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you know what i'm talking about yeah
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yeah man
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what what's your cat name jeffrey
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jeff jeffrey jeffrey
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dude as creative as you are you couldn't
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come with a more original name than
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jeffrey for your
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for your cat so so the story is you know
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i had the cat and i was
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i didn't have a name yet and i had like
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jeff as the filler name because uh i
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like jeff hardy the restless
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and i was gonna come up with a more
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creative name
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and i called the vet to make an
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appointment
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and they asked me what his name was on
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the phone and i just
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like sporadically like uh his name's his
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name is jeff
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and and then i just stayed i kept jeff i
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had to keep it
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yeah i think that's gonna help your cat
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become a human in his next life
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so that's good yeah
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he's the reincarnation yeah absolutely
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nick
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how's pandemic been for you
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i mean it's been crazy the it's crazy
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because the the bedroom bar
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when was that like april may is that one
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that was march bro like we jumped on
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that smart like
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yeah yeah like time has just felt like
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not real like i
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that doesn't feel ten months ago no it
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doesn't
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so yeah so like it's been tough but um
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you know i also was able to really lock
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in and get this album done
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so you know there's been a good side and
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a bad side of it i i can't say it's all
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been bad you know i can't lie and say
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that but uh
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it's been tough it's been challenging uh
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the way
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they describe this album um anywhere but
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here
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is nick not dwelling in the past but
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processing grief
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and getting back to who he is yep
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can you can you explain that what does
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that mean
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yes so sorry
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so yeah basically you know this album
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when i started writing it it was uh to
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help me process the loss of my father
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and
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you know the name anywhere but here is
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on the first like glimpse that you see
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it it's pretty self-explanatory that
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that's just how i felt you know
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i was i didn't want to be like i just
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wanted to be anywhere but here i wanted
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to
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get away from where i was mentally
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physically
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and um you know throughout the process
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of writing this album
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and even the listing of the album it
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goes from you know i would say pretty
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sad and
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honest raw emotions about what happened
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to like
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you know more triumphant um you know
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there's a silver lining
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and the album was the whole process of
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dealing with
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this grief and it was like a therapeutic
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um couple years of of just trying to
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express myself
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and i got to the point where you know
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anywhere but here's a double meaning
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at first i wanted to be anywhere but
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here but now they're like i've accepted
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it
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you know i would have problems some
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anywhere else so i got there's nowhere
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i'd rather be than here so like anywhere
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but here's
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like it's like a double encounter you
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know
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can you talk about your father that's
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your father's voice i'm hearing
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isn't that your father yeah man your
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father
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man i feel like you told me your father
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man
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seemed like he was so in tune with what
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you were doing and so encouraging
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that's what i love like listening to
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your father um i want to say
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it maybe it's the kids that wish song um
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where he's telling you yeah at the end
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yeah man and he's giving you all these
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encouraging words and anything you want
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to do
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is possible that's how i talked that's
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how i talk to my daughter
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you know the one you met on on bedroom
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bars
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um and it was fortunate for us is that
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we you know she's at an age now where we
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experience it we like the same things
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you know hip-hop culture
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raised both of us and so we debate on
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artists and the whole nine
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how connected was your father to the
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culture
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i mean it's crazy because i wouldn't
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even say my dad was that connected with
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the culture of hip-hop but he started
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getting more
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into it my dad used to play uh guitar
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for madonna back in the day
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and he also had a bar in the city
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called the scrap bar he was in the
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village he had it for
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a few years and like ac dc guns and
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roses a bunch of rock bands used to go
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there
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wow he was always like yeah so he was
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always musically
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inclined and he was in bands and he was
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always doing stuff
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but uh you know when i started doing
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music
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he started you know
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getting more into rapping like he never
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hated on rap he always was into it
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and kinda in in like the last couple
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years before he passed
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you know i was living with him and i
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remember rodeo came
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out uh good kid mad city came out and
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like the pimp of butterfly came out
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like those are the three albums i could
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remember off the top of my head that we
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that i listened to and he i actually
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like listened to the albums and he
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i'd wake up in the morning he's like yo
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he loved uh what was the song on the
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kendrick uh
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uh hold on let me look it up
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he really liked this one song
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um i can't think of the name how much a
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dollar cost on
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the temple butterfly okay wow
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yeah so so he started getting more into
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the culture too and like
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when i would send him songs he would he
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would like send me emails back and he
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would tell me in the
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you know in our daily life like
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how much he liked it or you know then i
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gotta keep going with this
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and you know so not to even like turn it
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into this but that's why
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you know you you kind of like remind me
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of him in certain ways and like that's
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like you know the public doesn't know
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but like we speak often
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on text and like just the
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the words of encouragement and that type
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of stuff it goes a long way when it's
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when it's someone who's like
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you know a little older than you and has
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been there before it makes you
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know that you're you're on the right
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path and
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that type of stuff is is like is
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priceless
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let me let me say this too um
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the flip side of that is being someone
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who's older than you
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is it's the same feeling for me that you
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receive it
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you know what i mean like that that you
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open enough to receive this information
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because a lot of us older guys just want
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to dump as much knowledge as we have
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on those coming up like you some of it
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might be useful some of it you might go
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he don't know what he's talking about
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but we just got to get this thing off
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and so i appreciate
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um that you receive it and it's just
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good to hear these stories of um
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of you and your dad man um because
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it explains we we have communicated this
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project is more than just an album
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because i remember when you started
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sending me the artwork and i was like yo
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this dude
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is really putting his mind to this you
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know and it all
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galvanized together
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talk about the artwork and how it
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correlates with the sound because
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sonically this album
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has a lot of layers a lot of musicality
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to it how are they all cohesive
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yes so the artwork um shout out to lone
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wolf he's
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uh this artist who you know he's been
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around for a while now and i got hit to
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him a couple years ago
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and you know i feel like also in
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in music nowadays a lot of people
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uh will skimp out on their artwork
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because
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you know there's not as many physical
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copies of stuff and
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a lot of things are digital photoshop
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edits and like some of them are cool but
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you know i i think there's a lot to be
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said about
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you know a quality looking album art and
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uh lone wolf cuts out
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pictures out of magazines newspapers he
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paints on it
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he scans it and um you know going into
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this album i knew he would
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really deliver on what i wanted and um
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you know i led with telling him the hot
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air balloon was like the symbol i wanted
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for this album just because i feel like
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it really
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described the name oh
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hello yeah yeah go ahead yeah i'm sorry
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so you took the cutout you said the hot
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air you really wanted
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because you feel what yeah the hot air
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balloon yeah i just got a phone call
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yeah the hot air balloon to me was just
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like a perfect
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symbol for this album you know like it
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it
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encapsulates the name and you over here
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to me so
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you know i led with telling him that and
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then
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he just came back to me with all that
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stuff you know like the two figures at
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the bottom
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represent me and my father um
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you know when you look at the guy on the
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road
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there's fire on one side and like the
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green grass on the other side
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and i just like there's a lot of
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symbolic stuff on the on the cover but
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one of the craziest parts of this cover
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is
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if you look on like the the middle right
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like kind of like on the low corner
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it says 1951 and
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you know he had did that randomly
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because he takes newspapers and
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magazines
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and that ended up being the year my dad
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was born
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like i never told him that so that was
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some crazy coincidence
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wow wow nick carson is here it's a
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brilliant new project
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um that's out right now
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anywhere but here tracy you want to jump
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in yeah absolutely especially on the
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subject of visual creativity that made
11:29
me think of the video for how you live
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it with our guy joey badass
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wow that is a hella entertaining watch
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that it says
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if for some reason you haven't been able
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to peep it um
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obviously i think the um visuals
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never overlook the skillful display of
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lyricism but it's
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always dope when you can tell someone's
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an overall
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creative and it's not just all in just
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um one single area
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i will say though nick there is a little
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line
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that made me say hmm let me ask him
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about this
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it's real simple but i'ma unpack it and
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it's just when you say
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she like my hair i keep my cap on okay
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but then you say because i ain't looking
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for love
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[ __ ] is that wrong and i'm always
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curious um what song is that
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that's for are you talking about how you
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live it right badass
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okay and i'm curious not that anyone
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should be
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rushing for it you know i think we all
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know that it's also best when
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it finds you but i am curious for where
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you are
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in your life because you ask is that
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wrong
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are you not necessarily looking for love
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because you feel like you're building
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your um
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personal development is it more so i'm
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focusing on
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business because sometimes within the
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industry
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i think we any industry actually but
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when you're very ambitious
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we can forget that the right love can be
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an asset to us
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in all aspects of our life including
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professional so i was curious
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to your thoughts yeah i mean of course
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you like
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you know to really be completely honest
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with that it's like
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you know when i was in high school
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i i really didn't want a girlfriend for
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a while just because
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you know i i saw some of my my friends
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who were like
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in 10th grade in like these serious
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relationships and they were stressed out
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i'm like
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you're 16 years old going through all
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this like drama
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and uh you know i ended up having my
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first relationship
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when i was a senior in high school and
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then
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you know that didn't work out and i
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wanted to be single i was like 21 years
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old and i ended up meeting
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my girlfriend for like six years and we
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actually broke up
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in in the summertime so i
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yeah so i was with her for a long time
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and like you know
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being and like i really did i mean i
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still love her like
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i'll say it i got i have no problem
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admitting that but
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you know being an artist it's it's tough
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being in between both of those worlds
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because it's like
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you know everyone has a different
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growing pad
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a growing path and you know some people
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want to get married and have kids which
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which i you know i want to do that
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eventually but like
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i can't rush my my process into that
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and you know by saying like i'm looking
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for love is that wrong like
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that's kind of what my thinking is you
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know sometimes love finds you but
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you know i have things that i have to
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get in order and you know dealing with
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music and like industry [ __ ] that
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i've been dealing with over the last few
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years
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it's um it's hard to be in a
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relationship and like explain that
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because
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someone could be thinking you're you're
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just making excuses or it's like you
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know
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if you love someone like you'll make it
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work which you know
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i see that side of it too but it's it's
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like a double-edged sword
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and you know that it's it
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no pun intended it's a cautionary uh
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experience dealing with all that
15:08
stuff yeah he can't help his way forward
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yeah that makes sense though that makes
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sense
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when you talk about the industry
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[ __ ] right that's what i was
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thinking about yeah
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the industry [ __ ] is nothing new
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it's been the [ __ ] since day one but
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it just kind of
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you know it reinvents itself you know
15:37
the industry
15:37
[ __ ] is an artist too it's an artist
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in his own right
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right it's just trying to it's just
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trying to live and win like every other
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artist industry [ __ ]
15:49
the industry [ __ ] was looked
15:50
differently for me and then there's a
15:52
lot of similarities uh when i was coming
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up
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um what what what specifically when you
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say the industry [ __ ] that you
15:59
consider some [ __ ]
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so you know i just think it's like
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like like nowadays you know
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with the labels and stuff you like late
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i feel like
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labels had a bigger role more
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in the past um you know obviously
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a label could still help you um get like
16:25
a big
16:25
feature and like they have these big
16:27
budgets where they
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you know they could be helpful i i think
16:31
like the label
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um the the way people talk [ __ ] about
16:35
labels
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it's not always warranted because you
16:38
know some artists go to a label
16:41
they they blow up because of like the
16:43
money and
16:44
you know budget they put into the to the
16:46
artist and then after they get that they
16:48
feel like the label did nothing for them
16:50
so
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you know i can't fully bash labels but
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you know at this point one of the big
16:56
things labels did for artists with print
16:58
albums and vinyls and get them out there
17:01
and now it's like
17:02
everything is on dsps and everything is
17:04
digital and
17:05
you know some of these distribution
17:07
contracts are to
17:09
distribute your music but all they're
17:11
really doing is putting it on dsp
17:13
so you know just like getting in a deal
17:17
that works for you
17:19
is tough when you don't have the
17:20
accolades right away you know like
17:22
you might not have the numbers that
17:25
reach out that are that compare to like
17:28
you know joe schmo over here
17:30
and you know like looking at a website
17:33
like tick tock
17:34
where a 15 second snippet of the song
17:39
is making a song blow up and you know
17:42
you have to compete with this type of
17:44
stuff you know like i feel like another
17:46
thing
17:46
i was thinking about recently you know
17:49
in the last
17:50
however many years there was like a
17:52
mainstreaming
17:53
type of hip-hop lane and then there was
17:55
a underground like
17:57
you know like when we came out it was
17:59
pro era asap
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odd future even tde was kind of
18:03
underground at first
18:05
nowadays i feel like there's no
18:08
distinction like everything kind of
18:10
exists in the same space and
18:13
it just makes it hard to navigate
18:15
through stuff you know it makes it hard
18:17
to navigate through this industry
18:19
and you know to touch more on like the
18:20
industry [ __ ]
18:22
sometimes you're in you're in meetings
18:23
with people that
18:25
that have like a say in your career and
18:28
the things they're telling you you
18:29
should do
18:30
you just don't agree with and like you
18:33
might be in a room with four people that
18:34
are all saying the same thing you don't
18:36
agree with and it's making you think
18:37
you're insane
18:38
but then once you get out of that room
18:39
and you talk to some other people it's
18:41
like all right i'm not insane
18:43
but you're but you're you're [ __ ]
18:45
anyways because you have to deal with
18:46
these people for the length of
18:48
of your project or whatever but uh yeah
18:51
it's definitely teetering on your on
18:53
your mental
18:55
your mental well-being going through
18:56
that stuff um
18:58
nick caution is here anywhere but here
19:00
is the name of the project
19:02
peter's on your mental
19:06
what is the status you know i love that
19:09
man it's um
19:11
because you go overthinking you mention
19:13
that in the album i can't think of what
19:14
song it is you
19:15
allude to not overthinking things
19:17
because that that you know that
19:19
that that could be a problem too what is
19:21
the status oh yeah i love hearing
19:23
you and joey badass on this song what is
19:25
the status of your relationship with pro
19:27
era in pro era in general
19:31
i mean everything is cool it's like um
19:35
we he's on the album you know cj's on
19:38
the album
19:39
um but i i feel like we're coming to a a
19:42
phase in all of our careers where
19:45
you know it's it's time to focus on
19:49
each other individually you know like
19:51
we've always
19:52
been solo artists a part of a collective
19:56
and uh you know now i feel like we're
19:59
all older
20:00
and we're all at a point where you know
20:03
we didn't there's no like i think a lot
20:05
of groups have like the public
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falling out you know we're still pro-era
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and we're still
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brothers and together and [ __ ] but you
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know moving forward is definitely
20:16
like i'm focused on dropping a lot of
20:19
music this year
20:20
and in the past it was always like
20:25
in my mind what i was gonna do a part of
20:28
the
20:28
the group and like not to say like it
20:30
held me back
20:31
because i loved being a part of the
20:34
group and dropping music together but
20:36
i can't operate how i want to operate
20:38
because
20:40
there might be a plan to drop a group
20:42
song or group album and that gets pushed
20:44
back
20:45
months and now that that pushes my whole
20:47
[ __ ] back
20:48
years so you know at this point i
20:51
i have to just invest a lot of time into
20:53
myself and like
20:54
leaving starting this year off with
20:56
dropping this album is just like the
20:57
first thing i want to do
20:59
going into this year man let's hear some
21:02
of the project
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uh i'm gonna open up the phone lines
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nick carson is here
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you nick caution fan a pro era fam or
21:08
you just a fan of music culture
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[Applause]
21:15
joey 888-742-3345 bar son
21:18
bars online keeps setting to the kill
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streak
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[Applause]
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nick carson yeah featuring joey badass
21:32
how you live it come on anywhere over
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here
21:37
yeah right here hey bro
21:41
that's an emcee um
21:44
you know it's you know we go through you
21:47
notice i said we tracy
21:48
at the emcee you go through unmc i
21:52
i i already know don't uh don't sell
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yourself short
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no no no thank thank thank you man i
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think they caution man
21:58
[Applause]
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because you got to fire up the old the
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og man uh but
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how do you like listening to this album
22:08
you have so much on your mind on your
22:10
spirit on your heart like
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i just feel like man this is a soliloquy
22:14
of just
22:15
everything uh but you're also improved
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as
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an mc uh do you is it about just writing
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what comes to heart do you practice
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um yeah i definitely practice but like
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at this point
22:30
i would say um what's the quote like you
22:33
you practice something
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so many times and then you kind of just
22:37
gotta trust and um
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you know the time you put into the gym
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um
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so you know i've been doing this for so
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long and
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you know my process has changed so many
22:48
times and on how i
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record and write and uh like when i was
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younger i would always
22:54
try to come to the studio with a verse
22:56
ready like if i was doing a song
22:58
i would want to have verses on deck if i
23:00
was in the pro era session
23:02
i would have like five verses on deck
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you know and
23:05
that was definitely a good way to do it
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but
23:08
now that especially with this album was
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personal
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you know i kind of stepped away from
23:15
trying to
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like bar out on every song which which i
23:19
still did on this album like there's
23:20
a lot of moments where i feel like
23:22
probably some of my best bars ever
23:24
but um the stuff that i'm the most proud
23:27
about is like the honest
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um transparent talking and uh
23:32
that's something like i wouldn't even
23:34
say i practiced i thought i just
23:35
manifested that because
23:37
some of my favorite artists growing up
23:39
are the ones that were super honest with
23:41
their music
23:42
and i related to as a as a kid so
23:46
for me to be on the other side of that
23:48
relating to the kids is like
23:50
the main reason i probably started music
23:53
in the first place subconsciously
23:56
nick is it ever frustrating you know i
23:59
feel like there is a period in hip-hop
24:01
where
24:02
um you know everything was very
24:04
regionalized and that
24:05
region had a certain sound and then of
24:08
course with
24:09
the internet things became more of a
24:10
melting pot but then
24:12
now i kind of feel a little bit of the
24:15
regional style coming back and i
24:17
say that to reference how brooklyn is
24:20
being
24:20
known now for more you know like the
24:22
brooklyn drill
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type music yeah of course pop smoke
24:26
helped to make
24:27
huge and you being from brooklyn
24:30
yourself
24:31
does that ever become frustrating when
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people
24:34
paint a certain section of one stroke
24:36
and you obviously
24:37
are creative outside of that yeah
24:41
uh i mean i wouldn't say it's like it's
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frustrating because
24:45
you know i like drill music and uh i i
24:48
like listening to it and i've i've tried
24:51
to make
24:52
a drill song and it's like i've always
24:55
just
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i would i don't know if prodding myself
24:58
is the right word but like i don't
24:59
really try to follow that
25:00
like follow trends and um you know just
25:03
get into what's trendy
25:04
right but uh yeah like at this point
25:08
i don't really care to fit in with with
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anything you know
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what i'm doing is yeah like if what i'm
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doing is true to me and like
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i'm happy with it and you know i i feel
25:19
confident in what i'm doing it's like
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that that's enough for me and you know i
25:23
not to say like i'm trying to be bigger
25:25
than brooklyn but like
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this is this is a bigger vision than
25:29
like my neighbor like i
25:30
i respect and i love everything i
25:33
learned from from living here but
25:35
you know at this point it's not even
25:36
about where i'm from it's about
25:39
what i've been through amen hey nick is
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it tomorrow your birthday
25:44
today is my birthday right now today is
25:46
your birthday
25:48
happy birthday nick wow cause i'm like
25:50
this is sounding like an evolved soul
25:53
let me find out what his birthday is
25:54
happy birthday bo
25:57
thank you thank you yeah yeah drop the
25:59
album
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i had to type in with suede for the
26:02
birthday you know it's only right
26:04
happening before man i know man happy
26:06
boring bro
26:07
hey man
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[Applause]
26:20
one of the songs on the album man that i
26:23
just
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think is i'm wondering how
26:27
i know this song didn't start off the
26:29
way you probably envisioned
26:30
it ending but you and denzel uh
26:33
curry got together did the bad day song
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and
26:37
let's hear a little bit of this song
26:39
it's so different to me
26:46
in the morning come on hold up hold up
26:48
hold up man
26:50
get the album get the album
26:54
that's so banging bro who produced that
26:56
song
26:57
charlie heath um
27:06
yeah he did uh he worked with kanye too
27:08
um
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man you and denzel bro y'all got
27:12
something special there what was that
27:14
experience like working with him
27:16
on this song yeah i love denzel denzel
27:18
is just one of those dudes
27:20
that's uh he's just always been
27:23
super real and genuine
27:27
like probably the one of the realest
27:30
people i've ever met in this in this
27:32
whole industry and this whole game
27:34
on all fronts and um you know when i met
27:36
him i met him on tour with joey
27:38
and the first day i met him like i knew
27:40
who he was but i wasn't that hit with
27:42
him i think it was 2015.
27:44
and um you know he was like drawing in
27:47
in his notebook and you know for those
27:49
who don't know denzel is like
27:52
super um like has a lot of layers
27:55
and draws cartoons and like you know his
27:59
whole
27:59
if you look at him throughout the years
28:00
like he's transformed like his look his
28:03
body
28:04
everything and he like draw he drew all
28:06
this [ __ ] out like i've seen it before
28:08
it happened so you know just just being
28:12
friends with him and sharing a track
28:15
with him watching his show
28:18
he's he's a super inspiration for me and
28:20
like seeing how how far he's come
28:22
uh i love denzel and watching everything
28:25
he does like i'm truly a fan of him too
28:27
like he's one of my best friends in this
28:30
whole
28:30
rap game but like i really am a fan of
28:33
denzel curry for sure
28:34
and um i love this song
28:38
incredible song i hope to see you two do
28:40
more
28:41
um nick caution man happy boring day
28:43
citizens we're celebrating
28:45
i want everyone to go ahead and get this
28:46
project anywhere but here
28:50
this is a great project man it's a great
28:52
project bro
28:53
you coughing up along right there nick
28:56
yeah yeah you know getting emotional
28:59
[Laughter]
29:01
it's all good man you earned it bro uh
29:03
i'm trying to think
29:05
i want to uh conclude our conversation
29:08
today with kids
29:09
that wish you know and
29:12
i just thought it was a great way to
29:16
i don't want to say in the album i don't
29:18
think albums end
29:19
you know i just have this theory about
29:21
that but i i like that being the
29:23
um the last leg of the album if you will
29:26
what was your
29:27
hope with this album man what what was
29:29
your did you
29:30
what you know what what did you want to
29:32
accomplish and then what made you put
29:34
that song last
29:36
yeah so you know at first um
29:39
i wanted to just like explain
29:43
what happened and um you know just give
29:46
like
29:46
the real honest raw
29:50
um feelings of of what i was what i was
29:52
going through these last couple years
29:54
and um you know like i said in the
29:56
beginning
29:57
it's more of like i would say like an
30:00
autobiography of
30:02
of what uh was going on in my life
30:05
you know i think the first song i i just
30:07
literally explained like that
30:09
it's it's something that i'm getting
30:12
more in tune with like just the
30:13
storytelling aspect of my music
30:15
um you know you just had it slick rick's
30:18
birthday today right
30:20
yeah yesterday yeah yesterday yeah so
30:23
so you know like even you know going
30:25
down to the
30:27
the essence of hip-hop i feel like
30:28
storytelling is a lost art
30:30
and um you know rest in peace to king
30:34
bond
30:34
that that's another like you know i
30:36
wasn't hit to his music but i went back
30:38
after the news and um you know a lot of
30:41
his songs were super storytelling and
30:43
like
30:44
you know i don't know if this is making
30:45
a return into rap i hope it does
30:48
i feel like it's always been there at
30:50
essence but um
30:51
you know storytelling is just such a
30:54
powerful
30:56
uh way to to write music and um you know
30:59
i have a lot of songs here that i feel
31:00
like i'm just telling stories
31:02
and you know this album
31:06
is kind of just my life in an album and
31:09
i feel like
31:09
ending it with kids that wish was
31:13
my way of like you know leaving it on a
31:15
on a positive note like there's some
31:18
good stories some you know sad stories
31:20
some
31:21
bad stories on this album but kids that
31:23
wish is
31:24
you know letting the kids know like i
31:26
said earlier like i feel like i'm doing
31:28
this
31:29
so i could be like someone that the kids
31:32
could relate to
31:33
um you know even going through all this
31:36
traumatic [ __ ]
31:37
i feel like you could still do
31:39
everything and you know
31:40
and this where the world is now with
31:42
like everyone who has
31:44
mental health problems and everyone has
31:47
you know all these
31:48
issues um you know you just gotta you
31:50
gotta keep pushing and you gotta try to
31:52
get through it
31:53
and like you could really get
31:56
to these places you you don't think are
31:58
imaginable um
32:00
you just gotta you just gotta push
32:02
through it you gotta push through it and
32:04
you know i was lucky to have someone
32:05
like my dad you know and my mom too you
32:07
know like two
32:09
very supportive figures in my life
32:13
and you know i don't have kids right now
32:15
but like
32:16
i know when i was listening to music
32:20
some of these voices were like a father
32:23
figure or
32:24
like a parental wise figure speaking
32:26
down so
32:27
yeah i just want to be that voice for
32:29
the for the people coming after me
32:32
my man nick caution you spell it nyck
32:35
caution c-a-u-t-i-o-n
32:39
citizens hit him up follow him nick
32:41
carson nyc
32:45
c-a-u-t-i-o-n nick i love the
32:47
conversation i can't wait to see you in
32:48
person bro
32:50
can't wait to be quiet uh and i might
32:53
we're gonna have some events coming up
32:55
that some of them will be virtual but i
32:56
love to tag you
32:57
you know get you involved with some of
32:58
it i'll explain that later okay but nick
33:01
carson
33:02
congratulations anywhere but here happy
33:04
birthday celebrate
33:06
i'll be watching your ig live later on
33:08
okay all right
33:10
thank you i love you bro i love you too
33:12
man hey this is the song we were talking
33:14
about kids that wish and we'll come back
33:16
to say peace
33:17
it's an amazing song nick take care
33:22
brother
33:26
[Music]
33:37
you
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