Are you letting your emotions destroy your discipline? In this deep dive, clinical mental health counselor David Weber joins the show to discuss the vital importance of conflict resolution and the psychological barriers that keep us from walking away when things get heated.
We explore the thin line between reacting and responding, especially when pride and ego are on the line. David shares powerful insights from his work in the prison system, explaining how momentary anger can lead to lifetime consequences. The conversation gets personal as a caller shares his journey of losing 24 years of his life to a single moment of rage, highlighting why mental health awareness is truly a matter of survival.
You will also learn about different attachment styles and how defense mechanisms like denial can fracture relationships between parents and children. Whether you are dealing with a difficult boss, a lying friend, or deep-seated family trauma, this episode provides practical tools for emotional maturity and distress tolerance. David breaks down the iceberg theory of emotions, explaining how feelings like embarrassment often hide behind a mask of anger.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction to David Weber
2:10 Conflict Resolution and Managing Emotions
4:35 The Role of Pride in Reactive Behavior
7:20 A Powerful Story of Consequences and Growth
11:35 Resources for Mental Health Support
13:15 Attachment Styles and Parental Denial
16:00 Healing from Long-Term Emotional Trauma
18:45 Healthy vs Unhealthy Coping Mechanisms
20:50 The Emotional Iceberg: Anger and Embarrassment
David Weber is a licensed professional counselor who has worked with everyone from Grammy award winning artists to individuals in the justice system. He emphasizes that while you can acknowledge your emotions, you must not be consumed by them. By planning your response before a conflict arises, you can protect your future and your peace of mind.
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All right, man. Like, he was a star
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athlete at Central Michigan University.
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I got to tell this history. They won't
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tell you that he's worked with
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Grammy Award winning artist as well as a
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producer that a master's degree in
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clinical mental health counseling from
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Northwestern University. That's the one
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that makes his parents smile. Please
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welcome him back to the show, David
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Weber. David Weber.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Hey, man. Let's go to the
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>> What's up, y'all? Yeah, man. The gang
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back in New York. What's up, David
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Weber?
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What's up? What's up? Conflict
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resolution from a micro and macro place,
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you know, from where you working in
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corporate America at your job or even in
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your home.
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With your siblings, your friends, or
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your partner,
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I think it's very important. Imagine if
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we had that when Pac and Big Yeah. were
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here. Yeah. Maybe there would have been
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a different result, right? And we using
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that as we celebrate and commemorate the
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life and times of Notorious B.I.G. but
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on a on a different scale, on a broader
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scale, how do we
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avoid allowing our emotions to destroy
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our discipline when we get angry? Yeah.
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Right?
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>> Can you speak to that?
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>> Yes. So, you can you can acknowledge
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your emotions
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but do not be consumed by your emotions.
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All right? So, I acknowledge that I'm
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angry.
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Let's say my whatever, my best friend
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lied to me about something, right? And
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we got we have an issue right now,
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right? And I'm angry. I'm consumed with
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anger. I'm I'm I'm I'm
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pissed off, right?
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I can't tell you how many times that I
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talked to clients or other people who
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have really difficult time having
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conversations.
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Basic conversations have really
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difficult time having basic
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conversations. So, the conversation,
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let's say you my best friend. Hey, man.
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You just you just lied to me about the
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thing, right? Yeah. Now, let's say he
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keeps lying. What do we normally do? He
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keeps Now, he's he's still lying.
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>> Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to put a
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make a finger at you and start yelling.
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>> getting more angry.
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>> Yeah, you going to get louder. You going
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to get louder. He's getting he's lying
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to me in my face.
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>> Mhm. And I see he's lying in my face.
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And he keeps lying in my face. And now I
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want to do something to him. And we grow
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I'm 45 years old.
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>> Mhm. Now, I'm about to get into a fight
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with another 45-year-old grown man
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because he's lying to me. So, what
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should I do? Common sense stuff, right?
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>> Mhm. Get out of there. Walk away.
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Immediately when you feel it cuz you
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know yourself. For some of you out
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there, you know yourself. You know you.
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You know if you have one drink, you
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definitely shouldn't be having no
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conversations.
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You know you going to be turned up with
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two drinks. It's over then, right? So,
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if you know that about yourself, let me
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get myself out the situation. But,
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David, that's hard. The turn around and
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walk away. What is keeping us there?
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What is making that so hard to do?
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Pride. Mhm.
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It's pride. At the end of the day, it's
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pride. I used to work in prison. I
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worked in several different prisons. And
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we used to have this conversation in
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group therapy all the time. Like, one of
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the the reason that most of you all are
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here right now um
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if the situation involved, you know,
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doing something that was reactive,
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right? Was pride. You had to do
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something in that moment cuz you
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couldn't walk away.
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So, someone stepped on your shoe, you
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couldn't walk away. Someone cussed you
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out, you couldn't walk away. Someone
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called you out your name, you couldn't
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walk away. Someone said something about
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your mama, you couldn't walk away.
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Someone owed you money, you couldn't
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walk away. It's pride.
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At the end of the day. Do you think
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spirituality can help with pride and
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ego?
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Abs- absolutely. I absolutely believe
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that. A lot of things I want to say
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even to clients, to be honest with you,
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I I don't say. I I check myself in the
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moment. Is this the right thing to do?
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And then also, too, a big one is what's
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the consequence of this thing?
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What's the consequence of me pulling out
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a pistol right now? Mhm.
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What's the 30 years for a moment? That
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is is not it's not worth it in that
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moment, right? And so, it but but we're
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really good at we're really good most of
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us at our job of not reacting.
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Right? Your boss getting on your nerves
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every day. It's people right now
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listening to this. You know your boss
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getting on your last nerve. But you
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don't react. Why? There's a consequence.
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You lose your job. So, we understand
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that, right? But when we're at the
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grocery store or we're talking to
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friends, we don't think about the
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consequences as as much, right? So, now
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we start fighting. And then what? Then
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you got a knife on you. And then what?
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Right? So, I'm not I'm not saying that
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that that um
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>> [clears throat]
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>> that it's easy to do. Yeah. What I'm
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saying is one of the best things you can
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do is to get ahead of it by thinking
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about the consequences um about if this
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thing I know I'm getting ready to meet
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with my friend. I know he stole my
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money.
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I'm about to meet with him in 20
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minutes. All right, David. So, if he
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lied to me, what I'm going to do?
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All right, I'm going to walk away. Yeah.
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Right? So, before we even have that
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conversation, I'm already aware of what
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I'm going to do once he start lying.
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>> Mhm. Does that make sense?
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>> That makes a lot of sense. You got a
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plan. That that's it. You made a plan.
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>> You made a plan.
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>> Beforehand. Beforehand.
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>> Yep. And hopefully your emotions
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>> [laughter]
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>> don't deplete that plan, right?
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>> Seriously. Seriously. And so, we got
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people on the line, David. And we got
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David Weber here. And perhaps you're
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somebody who has challenges, you know,
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with your emotions and being and being
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proactive because of them. Dave is on
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the line from New York. Welcome to the
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show, Dave. Give it up for Dave.
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>> What's up, Dave? What's up, Dave?
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How are y'all doing?
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Doing great.
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>> Dave, go ahead. What's your What Yes,
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what's your question for David Weber?
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My statement was everything y'all just
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said was um my life because for 4
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minutes of anger, I lost 24 years of my
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life. Almost lost my whole life cuz I
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originally went away for 100 years and
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through the courts, I got it to 22. But
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it was difficult because it was a
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mixture of pride. Everything he said,
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not knowing how to talk to people. So, I
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learned from that. And um I work with
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young ones today in foster system in the
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criminal justice system and and and you
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know, adolescent services, teaching them
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how to avoid issues in um
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um conflict resolution because once you
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go there, you go there. And everything
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he said, whether it's just the moment,
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have trying to have a plan, most people
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can't have a plan. Most people don't
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know how to plan. So, I use my life
6:27
experience to teach them and show them
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it's not worth, like he said, the 10,
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20, 30 years to get into a conflict with
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somebody. And it was difficult for me
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because I had to learn where it came
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from. And it didn't happen because I was
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mad at somebody now. I realized while I
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was doing I was doing time. I went to I
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went to school. And we took a course
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called abnormal psychology. And I
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learned that when my dad got with um
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had Alzheimer's disease, he got
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diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in
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the '70s when people really didn't know
6:59
much about it, was when the emotional
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impact happened to me because I didn't
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know how to deal with what was happening
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to him. And I carried that anger and I
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carried that through my life. And I
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learned that. And it was hard for me.
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You know? And so, spirituality does play
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a part for me, a big major part for me.
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Um being able to sit down and talk,
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learning how to have conversations
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played a major part for me. And I'm
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going to say this is my last piece. And
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the one thing that really helps me, too,
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and y'all may not, you know, I ain't
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going to say you may not believe it cuz
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y'all do it, is your show helps me
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tremendously. And your show has kept me
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grounded.
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Your show has kept me in tune. And it's
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like kind of what you was talking about
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with like Sway being the vanguard of
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what took place over, you know, over the
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years. I was incarcerated when your
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career began. I I saw you on TV years
7:50
ago. But the thing that I respect about
7:53
you and what you've done and how was the
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connection is that
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even though I was away from rap and
7:58
hip-hop and the culture for so many
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years, I still up to date I still feel
8:03
relevant or understand it because of you
8:05
and what you did. So, you was that
8:07
bridge and being able to understand a
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part of me from my past kept me focused.
8:12
When y'all have these conversations and
8:13
these people like brother David Weber
8:15
coming on and y'all y'all crack jokes,
8:17
y'all are my family. I'm in y'all living
8:18
room and we sitting here cracking up.
8:20
Y'all can't hear me cuz I'm in the car,
8:21
obviously. But I hear y'all. That helps
8:24
me through my day. That helps me get my
8:27
my mind right. So, when I do have a bad
8:29
day, sometimes I I'll play a rewind or
8:31
something. I'll go to your show and I'll
8:33
find something that makes me, you know,
8:37
and and and I'm telling the truth.
8:38
Y'all, I listen to you guys every single
8:40
day. I called y'all as many times Lonnie
8:42
as many times I called, but I couldn't
8:44
get on because like y'all ran out of
8:46
something. subject or something. But
8:48
I'll be like, all right. And there's no
8:49
hard feelings, but y'all mean that much
8:51
to me. That helped me keep my emotional
8:54
uh um intellectual um aptitude in check.
8:57
And I really appreciate everything you
8:59
guys do. So, that's what I do. And I
9:01
would like to be able to, you know, um
9:03
parlay with brother Weber one day. I'll
9:05
be like, either give you a I can email
9:07
you or call cuz I do have questions and
9:10
information that I would like to share
9:11
and and and get from you. But um it's
9:14
it's important that everybody knows that
9:16
this is our life and our mental health
9:18
is not a game. You know? And once we
9:21
learn how to be able to
9:23
um navigate that, I'm never going back
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that way. So, when I get angry
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>> There you go. I told somebody my wife my
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one of my wife and my family got mad at
9:31
me one day. We got to families go
9:32
through some stuff. And you angry, blah
9:34
blah blah. So, I said me I sat them
9:35
down. I said, "Listen. Y'all have never
9:38
seen me angry.
9:40
Y'all have never seen me. Y'all seen me
9:41
upset. Y'all seen me pissed off. You
9:44
have never seen me angry cuz I'm a cat
9:45
that can't get angry. I have to keep it
9:47
from going to anger. You know what I'm
9:49
saying? So, I have to check cuz you can
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you anger, but I have to check it
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because once I get there, it's done. And
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so, I've learned that it's not worth it.
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So, I love you guys very much. I
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appreciate you.
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>> Love you, too, Dave.
10:01
Yo, we I'm going to I'm going to get up
10:03
with you guys somewhere. I'm going to
10:05
meet one of your You got to come to one
10:06
of these events. Yeah, and hey, and when
10:09
you come, bring DJ Premier's voice with
10:11
you.
10:12
All right.
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>> [laughter]
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>> But, thank [clears throat] you for your
10:17
words, Dave.
10:19
I'm going to bring my Okay.
10:22
You a citizen, Dave. I mean, I'm a man
10:24
of my Finish that one up, but that was
10:26
that was a powerful conversation.
10:27
>> a Hey, Dave, I don't know I don't know
10:29
what you what you do for work, man, but
10:31
you sound like a therapist to me. He was
10:33
Man, could you imagine him doing
10:35
therapy? Uh, he'd be incredible. How can
10:37
he reach you?
10:38
>> Incredible. Please reach out to me um on
10:40
Instagram, davidweber_lpc.
10:43
It's the quickest way to get in contact
10:44
with me. For those of you who don't have
10:46
Instagram, you can email me at
10:47
10:51
Wow. Yeah, man. David Weber's here,
10:53
Tracy.
10:53
>> Yes, indeed. David, I'm really, really
10:56
grateful that you're here, especially
10:57
for this conversation. Um I'm wondering
11:00
about avoidance as a tool of anger.
11:05
Um let's say in a relationship where
11:07
there's a power imbalance, like a parent
11:10
and a child, what does it mean when the
11:13
parent who has more authority
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um can't handle being told that they
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caused pain,
11:20
can't really hold a container for a
11:22
vulnerable moment where their child or
11:26
whomever is um trying to express that
11:30
they were hurt, but they're coming to
11:32
reconnect. Why do you think some parents
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shut down or withdraw
11:37
when their child expresses hurt, and
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what can they do to um to get better?
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Yeah. So, there's a bunch of different
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attachment styles. There's anxious
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attachment. There's um secure
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attachment, which not many people have
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um that attachment style.
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Um and so, when a person, especially a
11:57
parent, when they're when they're when
11:59
they're disregulated, when they're um
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called to account for whatever they've
12:03
done, the best way for them to deal with
12:06
that as a defense mechanism is
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[clears throat] to push the person away.
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It's to blame the other person. It's to
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not listen or to shut down. Um it's to
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be in denial. That's an actual defense
12:15
mechanism. It's not just you know, the
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word that we use in the in the in the
12:18
dictionary. It's an actual defense
12:20
mechanism called denial. And so, I have
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to not listen to you, um blow off
12:26
whatever you're saying, so that I can be
12:29
right, but also so that I can move on
12:31
with my day, right? Cuz if I take
12:33
accountability, I can't go on with the
12:34
rest of my day
12:36
um if I'm that parent. So, if you're
12:38
saying to me, if you're calling me out
12:39
for something I did, and I take
12:41
accountability for that, that's really
12:42
difficult for a lot of people. And so,
12:44
the best way to do that is to do a is
12:46
avoidance, right? For that person. They
12:48
avoid the conversation. They avoid
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accountability.
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Um
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>> [snorts]
12:52
>> they avoid being responsible for what
12:53
they've done. That's really difficult
12:55
for children. And honestly, those
12:57
children who do that, those are the ones
12:59
I see as adults in therapy many times.
13:02
They had a parent they were unable to
13:03
speak to. They had a parent who did not
13:05
listen to them. They had a parent who
13:06
was never accountable. They had a parent
13:08
who would not take responsibility for
13:10
anything they did. And even when they
13:11
become adults, the parent will still be
13:13
in denial. I didn't do that to you.
13:16
Right?
13:16
>> But but I but can let me play uh the the
13:19
other side of it?
13:19
>> Yes, please. Okay. So,
13:21
perhaps the parent didn't realize,
13:24
right, they what
13:26
had been done to the kid because,
13:28
depending on the circumstance, true, the
13:30
parent is in survival mode.
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>> True. True.
13:33
>> I'm being the best parent I could be
13:35
>> at the time.
13:36
>> at the time.
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>> Correct.
13:37
>> And I I didn't realize
13:39
when I wasn't picking you up from school
13:42
that it it bothered it hurt you that
13:44
way. But, the reason why I wasn't
13:45
picking you up from school is cuz I had
13:47
a second job so I could pay for the
13:49
school.
13:50
>> Correct.
13:50
>> Right? So,
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>> Correct.
13:51
So, we So, now we're back to
13:52
conversation. So, emotional maturity for
13:55
that parent is saying exactly what you
13:57
just said. But, oftentimes we don't see
13:59
parents saying that. We'll see a parent
14:01
saying, "Well, what you talking about? I
14:02
did pick you up."
14:04
You didn't. Right? I was in sixth grade.
14:07
You never picked me up from school. I'm
14:09
telling you what happened. Yes, I did.
14:11
You can't tell me I didn't do that. So,
14:12
now we're having a back and forth
14:14
because the parent won't go Wait, hold
14:15
on a second. That was sixth grade? Oh,
14:18
wow. Let me think about that. Oh, you're
14:20
right. I had a second job. I'm so sorry.
14:23
I never had that conversation with you.
14:25
I had a second job that year, and I
14:26
couldn't pick you up. That's a much
14:28
different conversation than the person
14:30
automatically shutting down and saying,
14:32
"No, you lying. That's not true." But,
14:33
then how does the kid who for decades
14:37
held on to this energy,
14:40
and then finally gets to a chance to
14:41
tell that parent brave enough, not
14:43
intimidated enough, and you do have the
14:45
parent that takes accountability and go,
14:47
"I apologize for that." The kid's still
14:50
sitting on those feelings, though,
14:51
right? So, you know, and you you can't
14:54
devalue what they felt because to them
14:56
it was real. To the parent wasn't
14:58
because of why you thought it was.
15:00
>> Right. How does the kid then move
15:02
forward?
15:02
>> That's when you need therapy. I'm just
15:04
being real. When stuff when a person's
15:06
been holding on to something for 10, 15,
15:08
20 years, and their body is holding on
15:10
to it as well, their thoughts are
15:12
holding on to it, that's not something
15:14
you can you can deal with in one session
15:15
or one day. That's something you need
15:17
you need a therapist. You need something
15:19
spiritual as well. You need a
15:20
combination of different You need a
15:21
support system. And so, that's You bring
15:24
up a great point, but I guess from my
15:26
perspective, I see a lot of parents not
15:29
being accountable, or better yet, just
15:31
not listening. It's not about
15:33
necessarily being accountable in that
15:34
moment cuz maybe you don't know. Maybe
15:35
you don't realize what you did. But, at
15:37
least listen to what your kid is saying,
15:40
um and and take into account that
15:42
potentially it's true that what what
15:44
they're saying is maybe true about me.
15:45
But, we have we have difficulty uh doing
15:47
that sometimes. And what you do know is
15:49
true, Yeah. rather the the scenario,
15:53
we got different versions of the
15:54
scenario. What you do know is true Yeah.
15:57
is how that kid feels.
15:58
>> How they feel. Right? And I can validate
16:01
how you feel without necessarily
16:03
agreeing to what you're saying. I can
16:06
still validate your feelings, for sure.
16:08
>> Um man, we got David Weber here. Patrick
16:10
in Chicago got wants to chime in. What
16:12
up, Pat? Hey, Pat. Hey, what's going on,
16:15
Sway? Hey, everybody. Love what you guys
16:18
are doing on the show.
16:19
>> What's going on? What's going on?
16:20
>> Thank you.
16:22
What's happening, brother? How you want
16:23
to chime in?
16:25
I I wanted to say about our coping
16:27
mechanisms cuz walking away is is is a
16:30
great thing to get yourself collected
16:33
and all that stuff, but you're
16:34
eventually going to have to walk back to
16:36
that situation. And and you got to you
16:39
got to live your life and and do what
16:41
you got to do with people and interact
16:43
with them and everything, but um one way
16:46
to get ahead of a bad situation, I think
16:48
I'm from Illinois, so I love Abraham
16:50
Lincoln. You know what he used to do? He
16:53
He would write hot letters. He would He
16:55
would He would have a a beef with
16:57
somebody,
16:58
and he'd sit down at the at the desk,
17:00
and he'd and he'd write a hot letter,
17:02
and and then he'd show it to his wife,
17:03
and he'd talk about it, and he'd think
17:05
about it.
17:06
And then he'd and then he'd uh cool off
17:08
a little bit, and he'd and he'd write a
17:09
more
17:10
uh a more productive letter, you know
17:12
what I mean, and and and get to the real
17:14
heart of things, and then and then try
17:16
and speak to somebody's heart or mind,
17:18
rather than speak to the emotions.
17:20
That's good. I love that. That's great.
17:23
That's great. That's great. Um there's a
17:25
skill they teach in DBT, which is called
17:28
distress tolerance. And in distress
17:30
tolerance, one of the things they talk
17:31
about is coping skills. And so, you
17:33
bring up a great point about coping
17:34
skills. Coping skills are anything that
17:36
helps you cope
17:37
with something that's
17:39
overly emotional or or difficult, right?
17:41
So, it could be reading, writing,
17:42
watching TV. We teach these skills in
17:44
prison.
17:45
Um and and you know, talking to a
17:47
friend, having a support system, writing
17:49
a letter like you just like you just
17:51
mentioned. Uh so, coping skills But,
17:52
there's also unhealthy coping skills.
17:54
So, those are the healthy coping skills.
17:56
Unhealthy coping skills are drinking, um
17:59
right? It's a way to cope, right? Maybe
18:02
drinking may calm me down in the moment,
18:04
but then also drinking can turn me up,
18:05
too. Um there's other unhealthy coping
18:07
skills like drugs, as well, right? Uh a
18:09
lot of people in prison um that I worked
18:12
with used methamphetamines. That was a
18:13
coping skill for them. So, one of the
18:15
things we talked about a lot was using
18:17
other coping skills
18:19
um and getting rid of some of those
18:20
unhealthy ones. Sex. What about sex?
18:22
>> That's a coping skill.
18:23
That's an absolute coping See, you
18:25
nodded your head. Yes, you want to chime
18:27
in on this, PB? No?
18:29
You want to talk? No? You want to talk
18:30
about it? All right. Um thank you,
18:32
Patrick, for your call. We appreciate
18:34
you. Uh listen, I'm a
18:37
I you know, we got other callers, and
18:38
the lines have lit up, but I want to
18:40
direct them to your
18:43
how they can reach you on your platform.
18:45
>> Yeah, for sure. You can reach me at
18:46
davidweber_lpc
18:48
on Instagram. It's the quickest way for
18:50
me to respond. If you don't mind, I just
18:51
want to say one quick thing, too, uh
18:53
about one of the emotions that we have
18:56
difficulty dealing with,
18:58
um is embarrassment. Mm. That emotion,
19:01
for some reason, um is a really
19:03
difficult emotion for people to deal
19:05
with. And so, if you think about this in
19:07
terms of an iceberg, there's a tip of
19:09
the iceberg, and at the tip, oftentimes
19:12
you may see anger. That's what you see
19:15
um with with your with you know, that's
19:17
what you're experiencing with that
19:18
person. But, underneath the iceberg,
19:20
where the where the the vast majority of
19:22
the mass is at, maybe that's
19:23
embarrassment. Maybe that's frustration.
19:26
Maybe that's a different emotion. So, we
19:27
express anger, but oftentimes we're
19:30
feeling something completely different.
19:31
And so, for many of us, embarrassment is
19:34
an emotion that we have difficulty
19:36
dealing with. That's the bulk of the
19:38
emotion. And so, we express anger when
19:40
really the person's just embarrassed.
19:42
Mm. That's why we start going off.
19:44
Food for thought, man. David Weber, give
19:46
this man a round of applause, please.
19:48
That's real.
19:49
>> Hit him up Hit him up directly. I
19:51
promise you he'll respond. Citizens, and
19:54
you know this therapy is I know it's an
19:56
expensive proposition, but I'm giving
19:59
you a way to talk to somebody for free.
20:01
Hit him up on his Instagram.
20:02
>> David Weber _lpc
20:05
What is that again? David Weber _lpc
20:08
>> And if they don't have Instagram, you
20:10
said the website
20:10
>> don't have Instagram, you can either go
20:12
to ohmytherapist.com or you can just
20:14
email me at [email protected]
20:18
>> What's the other one? Ohmytherapist
20:20
>> Ohmytherapist.com
20:23
>> Okay, man. Thank you, David Weber.
20:25
Appreciate you, man. You got your social
20:26
media team with you today, huh? I'm
20:28
trying, man. I'm trying I'm trying to
20:30
get this thing this thing popping. No
20:31
doubt. This is Casey Thompson.
20:33
Appreciate you for coming today. She's
20:35
doing all all things Instagram and
20:37
social media for me. And if you have
20:39
some social media needs, hit her up,
20:40
too. Mr. and Mrs. Weber, we appreciate
20:43
you. No doubt. What's up, Mom? What's
20:44
up, Dad?
20:44
>> Y'all ever come to LA, man? You know, we
20:46
got we got two seats for you right here.
20:48
>> No doubt. No doubt. This is
20:49
>> [laughter]
20:49
>> the anniversary She come up in July, 55
20:51
years.
20:51
>> 55 Wow. That
20:54
Y'all doing a party? We got to do
20:56
something, but my parents, you know,
20:57
they they don't want too much attention,
21:00
so they just want, you know, the
21:01
grandkids and Where where they live?
21:03
>> They live in Atlanta.
21:04
>> Detroit. Detroit, okay. Yeah, they live
21:05
in Detroit. Oh. Well, I'd be imagining
21:08
the Atlanta house that Chris used to
21:10
have.
21:10
>> Yeah, we we've been trying He still got
21:11
it, but we've been trying to get them to
21:12
move. They won't They won't move. Into
21:14
that house? Trying to get them to
21:16
>> to Atlanta period or that house or
21:18
wherever else He still got that house?
21:20
Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. You're not
21:22
whispering. I hope you know that,
21:23
[laughter] Weber. I mean, you and David
21:25
I don't know why y'all voices are
21:26
getting so low as [laughter]
21:28
if you're whispering on the radio. Yeah,
21:30
you still got that house, though.
21:32
>> [laughter]
21:33
>> All right. I'll see you.
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