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'Cheers' Legend Rhea Perlman Talks New Netflix Film '13: The Musical' | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Aug 12, 2022
“13: The Musical,” a teeny-bop movie about the pressures of a young teenage boy has to put on a blowout bar mitzvah. Rhea Goldman plays the boys grandmother, residing in Indiana, that he reunites with, after his parents divorce. The legendary actress stopped by Sway In The Morning to talk about the film and reminisce on some good times with the iconic cast of 'Cheers'.
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man big round of applause right now big
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round of applause yes this is a bucket
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this moment had to be and i love it a
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bucket list for both of us i think yes
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indeed some of the tv that shaped and
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molded the person i am today
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and some of the people that played these
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amazing characters
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you have no idea how they impact folks
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lives and i got a chance to watch our
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next guest over the years a little guy
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growing up in oakland california who
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used to love weekly to watch this
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amazing show
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called cheers
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and i loved the
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i don't know i didn't know anything
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about boston i didn't know anything
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about boston accents right you know i
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didn't even know anything about bar
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culture um but what i learned is um
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interesting enough from this network of
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characters you know the camaraderie and
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the loyalty that they had towards each
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other and they never really took life
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all the way serious
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um and the comedic um
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prowess of that cast when you talk about
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woody harrelson round of applause for
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woody
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you know uh
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ali shelly long ted danson kelsey
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grammer i mean i'm just naming them all
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george wentz uh john uh
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yes yes i can name them all even her dad
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did some roles on this set
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but one of the people that kept me
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coming because she stayed consistent
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even in sunset park all the different
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programs that she's done she's been
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nominated had the bee
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for emmy awards multiple ones she won
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multiple times golden globes i mean
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she's been nominated for everything and
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she's here with us today she probably is
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like looking around like why am i here
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what is going on right now right you
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know i'm here to get all these pats on
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the back man he's like wow what a love
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is that i love you a lot of love for you
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we got the one and only real pearl
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middles here come on
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thank you thank you for joining us
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absolutely i'm so happy to be with you
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guys good to be with you i mean you know
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you got this the new project you're
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playing grandma roof 13 the musical
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right that's it grandma roof
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when they start making you grandma rolls
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what are they i was a grandma on cheers
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i think i was remembering i was about 36
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i was a grandma
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young man i had them young
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i started out with four i ended up with
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eight ended up with eight eight kids
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eight kids yeah i don't know my life
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and then and the producers said if i
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knew you were going to have all these
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kids i wouldn't start you out with ford
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yeah now you have eight kids and but
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then at the end they made two of them
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twins so
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they got into it wow that that show was
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so well written um the
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glenn charles
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glenn and bless yeah brothers the
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brother glenn and les charles who also
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wrote
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see all of these shows mary tyler
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moore's show
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they wrote on that um the mash
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right
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so i'm not sure about that i know
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that taxi they wrote out yeah and um
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jimmy burrows the director producer
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co-producer with with the charles
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brothers
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has been directing since mary tyler
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moore since mary tyler moore yeah all
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right iconic shows right yeah yeah
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because he did some i remember his name
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on frasier as well this is the series
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yes and he's he's been on you know will
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and grace he's done them all he's done
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them all yeah he i mean anybody who can
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get him uses jimmy for comedy oh my god
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there's nobody like him you think we're
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funny yeah he's funny he's the reason
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we're funny okay i'm in the writing it's
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like really amazing yeah but carla had a
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certain dry
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sarcastic amazing sensibility quick
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timing when it came to humor is that who
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you are off camera
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oh no okay i wish oh my god i wish i had
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those things to say every second but you
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know that was the fun of it you know
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that being able to put people down in a
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funny way and you know not worry about
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like you know
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being mean because i wasn't really mean
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and they knew it you know and had and
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had that that dig you know and it was
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just i mean that that those writers were
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incredible they're incredible right um i
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have a question
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pertaining to that as well in terms of
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the writing so with that dynamic cast
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i personally was surprised to see
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frasier as a spin-off like i i just
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didn't see it coming i i would have
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thought carla to finally see all of
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these kids i would have thought the
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woody character possibly but what any of
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you ever approached um
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to do a spin-off or it would it went
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straight to kelsey grammar um that went
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pretty much straight to kelsey there was
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a a short lived tortelli's show i think
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that was yeah the totality show came out
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i think it was at the same time as
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cheers and i didn't want to leave cheers
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to do something else
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related that wasn't it was
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cheers was such a tight place to be and
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such a beautiful place to be with these
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people who are like my family
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that i couldn't imagine
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spinning off and not being part of that
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family anymore got it you know okay was
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that was that part of your
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career
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the the
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how do i say this at that point were you
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was that when you were mostly living
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your dream when you were doing cheers i
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absolutely never even dreamt it it was
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so
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so cool so amazing and you know i had um
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because you know married to danny devito
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was
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louie and taxis i saw every episode of
5:47
taxi live and you know watching from
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the booth we would watch from a booth in
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the stage and
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um
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i i it was such a great
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you know a great medium and
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i
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and that's where i first saw
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you know what a group of people could be
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together
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on
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doing something live
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but also filmed
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so that you know you're live and
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everyone can laugh if they want you know
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they can laugh twice if you do it twice
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because and you're it's like doing a
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show like doing a play except if you
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make a mistake you can do it again
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you know and it's not it's the best of
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everything it's the best of everything
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ria pearlman is here um tell us about 13
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the musical this is interesting i've
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been watching clips from it and you know
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you're working around a lot of kids on
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this one tell me about it
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she can't get away from kids
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um yeah luckily i didn't have to birth
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them all but you know
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the you know i i play the grandmother of
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the boy the main boy who is getting bar
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mitzvahed which is what it kind of
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centers around this kid who's
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taken from new york by his mom who's
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played by deborah messing
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and
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because of a divorce and she wants to
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get out of there and she goes home to
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indiana where i am and
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so the kids
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are
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the kids at school and he needs people
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to come to his bar mitzvah because he's
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leaving a whole all of his friends in
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new york and um
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and so
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uh
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he was the kid that i worked with the
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most okay
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i really didn't even meet most of those
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kids except for
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the
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woman and the girl
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girl woman patrice
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i mean no she um she plays patrice it's
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gabriella
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who's amazing she's the next door
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neighbor my next-door neighbor who it
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seems like oh they're going to be really
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good friends and some things come
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between that and that's another
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involvement and she's an amazing actress
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he's an amazing actor i mean they had
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the best kids and then when i actually
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got to see the movie
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the singing and dancing actually you
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know when i first
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realized how great they were
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there's a bar mitzvah scene uh-huh
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and
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when they sing
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in that bar mitzvah they all sing i mean
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i'm
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it's just like oh
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oh my god it was it's
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just fabulous yeah the most talented and
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they're all 13. oh they're really 13. oh
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okay okay
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13 years old maybe maybe there's one
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that was 12 and one was 14 but like
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that's it that's around okay it sound
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and listen that's going to be um
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premiering august 12th this friday on
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netflix
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ria pearlman is still working hb she's
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still getting checks well i'm listening
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to
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that we are still getting checked though
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i'm listening
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you mentioned bar mitzvah we get little
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notes miss pearlman you see it all right
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here yeah
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okay but yeah you see your notes and we
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read today that you were raised jewish
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correct yeah um danny devito was raised
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catholic right but you guys celebrated
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um specific holidays together all the
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holidays all the holidays together but
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then as i read further it said that you
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guys no longer live together but you're
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still
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married technically and you're not
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getting a divorce you could have helped
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us out today in our segment we had a
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relationship segment today yes
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how does that work ms broman tell us how
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you can be married but not
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getting a divorce but not living
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together with love
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[Music]
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[Laughter]
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it works with love i mean you know what
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um we've been married for a really long
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time
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we were together for
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um
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i don't know 40 years maybe
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we were together for 11 years before we
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even got married and then
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it was not you know it just wasn't
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working that relationship wasn't working
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for either of us and we decided
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to separate and um
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we never moved far from each other and
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you know there were difficult times like
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let's face it yeah it happens right all
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relationships go through absolutely
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really difficult times
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but what's important to both of us
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is family
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our three kids our
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dynamic as a family beautiful is just
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it it was always the center of our lives
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no matter what work we were doing just
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like i liked family and cheers families
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might think that's the thing right you
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know so um
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actually it's worked out really great we
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don't have a lot of arguments about
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stuff
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we never have argued about stuff we
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don't have a lot of arguments we just
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we just need our own space yeah and so
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we have our own space
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if he was to date someone else you
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wouldn't
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you went mine i'd kill him okay
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love is out the window
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they just needed
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oh my god it was even longer than 40.
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you're right you're right yo
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oh yeah that's easy that's an easy
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question kill him i'll kill him
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okay well listen you got some fans on
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the line margaret is in l.a rise and
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shine margaret say hello to ria hi
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hi good morning ria this is amazing to
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talk to you oh well thank you thanks for
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calling me
11:29
yes absolutely i just wanted to let you
11:31
know how much i loved watching you
11:34
getting gary and just all the episodes
11:37
and the kids and all the fun and all the
11:40
laughter but you know what while i was
11:42
sitting here for a second i i just had a
11:44
thought who was the who was your
11:47
favorite actor to work with on cheers
11:49
who was you can't ask me about favorites
11:52
that's like asking who's my favorite kid
11:54
you know really i mean
11:57
it was such okay fair that's fair yeah
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yeah that's fair okay yeah i love that i
12:02
enjoyed it you know what and when
12:05
when nick santo who played coach
12:09
we all thought oh this is the end it's
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never going to be
12:12
it's never going to be
12:14
a good as good as this
12:16
it wasn't the same as this but woody
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walked in that day
12:20
and he was the new
12:22
you know guy behind the bar with sam and
12:25
he just like wow
12:27
it was like i don't know if you ever saw
12:29
the show damn yankees where um
12:31
the the
12:33
you know this guy wants to be a baseball
12:35
player so much that he sells his soul to
12:37
the devil to become one and
12:40
he
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uh
12:42
and he becomes tab hunter he's like an
12:44
older guy he becomes tab hunter who's
12:46
like a young gorgeous guy and
12:49
um
12:50
but it was like it was like that it was
12:52
like it was this same soul of a person
12:56
just came into the bar what a younger
12:58
wow younger and
13:00
you know with a different life and
13:02
everything but it was the same soul
13:04
somehow he blended in well immediately
13:07
yes yes i was there for that change yeah
13:10
i was there i watched i was watching
13:11
that
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he did blend in well he caught y'all
13:14
y'all had a distinct that might be the
13:17
greatest
13:18
along with the jeffersons and good times
13:20
uh one of that might be the greatest of
13:23
all time cheers like this
13:26
i'm with you yeah right you're with me
13:28
db you want to jump in yeah um oh there
13:30
we go all right uh so i wanted to ask
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because there's a part in the film in 13
13:34
uh where you you you jokingly uh talk
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about the the daughter bringing the kid
13:39
back you said well if it took divorce to
13:41
get you out here you know it's a good
13:43
thing it's a good thing because you you
13:44
say you always see the positive in a
13:46
circumstance and so i feel like when you
13:47
play a parent in a film or a television
13:50
series it can be more impactful than a
13:52
lot of people realize because there are
13:53
people who might be going through
13:54
similar situations and see how you
13:57
handle it or your character handles it
13:58
and maybe apply that to their own
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personal life so do you ever think about
14:01
that sort of thing when you're playing
14:02
like whether it's a you know grandmother
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mother or any sort of family uh member
14:06
like what can i do to maybe emphasize
14:08
something that could be relatable to
14:10
somebody on the in the real world well
14:12
yeah i mean i don't think about it in
14:14
that
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with that phrasing but i i think about
14:18
it is what makes this real
14:20
and that is
14:22
that is the thing i mean the the the
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lines that i'm saying if it's ever a
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line that rings false to me or i a
14:29
person wouldn't say that in that
14:31
situation then i try to change it i ask
14:34
if we can change it but you know i i
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agree it's it's
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i feel like my relationship with my
14:41
daughter you know
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deborah messing who comes you know is i
14:45
i'm a little bit of a buttonski in her
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life but
14:48
but uh i don't it's not overboard and
14:51
what i'm trying to help her do
14:53
you know i think
14:55
is is warranted and um i don't i don't
14:59
overlook who she is i don't think
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although sometimes she feels like i do
15:03
because you know kids never really
15:06
take their parents
15:08
to heart all the way you know until
15:10
later until later yeah
15:12
one of your kids is coming up here with
15:14
your husband danny devito lucy is coming
15:16
up here they're coming together then uh
15:19
the series little demon is a call no
15:21
demon and um i was hoping
15:24
and uh jake is also a producer on that
15:26
series
15:27
all three of them producers and yeah
15:29
lucy and danny are in it together and
15:31
that starts on fx on um august 25th look
15:36
at her promotion no see i think that's
15:37
the other and
15:41
is the one who probably handles the
15:43
money in the family right oh yeah yeah
15:45
yeah okay so so i got it all right here
15:48
in the zod
15:51
that's why
15:52
that's why she's saying we could be
15:54
separate but we gonna stay married cause
15:56
we gonna keep the money in the family
15:58
is that true it's true it's a hundred
16:00
percent true but that is an agreement of
16:03
all of us okay we are you know and we've
16:05
always lived like
16:07
what's ours is yours everyone in our
16:09
family mm-hmm so it's never it's never
16:12
been an issue okay i love that it's
16:14
never been in this there you go that's
16:15
beautiful i got it i got it if there's a
16:17
question
16:18
because i want to play it back when they
16:20
they're actually going to be guests on
16:21
our show danny
16:23
okay okay so it's great so uh because
16:26
danny two is on my bucket list
16:28
okay um what i want you to ask them a
16:32
question and we'll play it back for them
16:33
when they come in the studio we're gonna
16:34
surprise them what am i going to ask
16:36
them whatever okay that's cool like
16:38
it could be personal like something that
16:40
the two of them would know and it could
16:42
be funny or could be something about
16:44
working together or playing the devil in
16:46
the devil's child
16:48
the double spawn oh my god now you put
16:51
me on the spot okay i need that yeah
16:53
they asked him a question yeah
16:56
well i don't know
16:58
you know i was in one episode of this
17:00
show i'm in one episode of that
17:03
little demon
17:04
and don't you guys wish i was in every
17:07
episode of the show
17:09
i mean don't you
17:11
really think about that every time
17:13
you're getting together to play you know
17:15
to do this
17:16
the the the voices on this show don't
17:19
you want mine
17:21
that's my question yeah it is
17:23
i like that the fair question yes wait
17:25
on the answer all right all right
17:27
that'll be good okay we got that uh we
17:29
got siobhan on the line real quick uh
17:32
what's
17:33
before we get siobhan one of the sunset
17:35
park yeah was huge in the hood
17:38
i'm happy to hear that actually bill you
17:40
had all those great guys in it yeah
17:42
terence howard terence howard uh fredril
17:45
starr was in it talent
17:47
yep talent uh harris the comedian was
17:49
saying god talent was in it yes do you
17:51
what do you remember about those guys
17:53
ah they were they were amazing they
17:56
really um
17:58
we became really close i
18:00
seriously i played the basketball coach
18:02
i don't know how i got to be played
18:04
playing a basketball coach i really
18:07
knew nothing about that
18:08
not enough i knew i liked the game but i
18:11
didn't know anything technical about
18:13
basketball um and uh
18:16
they were they were great at it you know
18:18
they were they were great and we had
18:20
um
18:21
party like i would i i tried to treat
18:24
them really good because they were all
18:26
brand
18:26
new and
18:28
i mean i think fredro had done the most
18:29
stuff at that time wow even more than
18:32
than uh
18:34
yeah i think
18:36
um but terence was always the actor you
18:39
know he really was and he is what was he
18:41
like though
18:43
he was very sweet very sweet he was late
18:45
a few times but who wasn't
18:47
[Laughter]
18:51
sorry terrence if you're listening it's
18:53
true though it's true
18:56
and i would have you know i had a couple
18:58
of parties at my house a couple of
18:59
things to try to you know
19:02
to
19:03
this is how i live this is you know
19:05
we're real yeah and uh because
19:08
i certainly didn't come from the hood no
19:09
you know yeah i came from i grew up in
19:12
in uh coney island okay i was born
19:16
and uh
19:17
then ben's and hers and then vincent
19:19
hurston there's a lot of racial uh
19:22
conflict in vincent hurst not then not
19:25
at that time it was okay bensonhurst was
19:27
like jewish italian that was it uh-huh i
19:30
mean
19:30
the announcement the number of black
19:32
kids that i went to school with i don't
19:34
know you can count them on one hand yeah
19:37
really really
19:38
segregated that way yeah now it's
19:41
different now it's better now it's
19:42
better there you go all right um did
19:45
they introduce you to any hip-hop music
19:46
at that time oh yeah they were always
19:48
playing stuff i don't know what it was i
19:50
can't remember okay okay that was a long
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time ago man you got to like
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shake my head out
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re-approve it y'all hey listen i love it
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thank you thank you for coming by you
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just i'm checking off my bucket list
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yeah sure would you come back oh of
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course
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okay great
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great okay next project
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next project you are here this project
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is out this friday on netflix 13. the
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musical make sure y'all watch it thank
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you for tuning in and then tie the
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videographer yeah follow me i am ty
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davis i'm looking for editors
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videographers follow me hit me up i
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gotta work for y'all okay pva studios
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that's the name of the uh company and ty
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davis is what you follow yeah i am ty
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davis all right but we have nothing
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left to say
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