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that's an interlude from the album joy
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comes in the morning
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featuring robert glasper who also did
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production on this album
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and the voice of ozman benjamin telling
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you how this album came together and why
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it's being released
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on this very day on good news thursday
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because it's good news
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that this album is here and i'm going on
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the record it is not
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no bias this is what my favorite album
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of the moment right now is joy comes in
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the morning
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this is a tremendous body of work
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conceptually
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from the intro to the turbulence and
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everything
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in between we're getting to know this
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man on a level that we don't get a
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chance to know many artists on and i
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want to
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congratulate him on all his success
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from movies to music to life
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he's here with us today the one and only
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oswin benjamin
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turn them up you know my man yo
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i remember that first
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interview i remember the first time i
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was in there and
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shout out to heather b
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and rich knights were being the only
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ones that really showed love that day
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i think i don't know if tracy was dead
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but oh okay i was about to say
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nah come on tracy you already know you
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show love all the time but yo
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i walked in and swayed was just like
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what are you gonna get coffee for
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everybody or something
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you're here for yeah i'm saying and from
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that
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it's for there to be nothing but wild
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love and respect mutually on both ends
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to now bro like i could really call
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y'all
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family and it's crazy to even be talking
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to y'all right now like thank y'all for
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having me here
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forever well well let me just say this
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ah
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i love you and something about your
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spirit and i've i've text you years ago
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when after we first met to personally
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say something about your spirit when you
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walked in the room gravitated toward
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mine to make it feel like family and
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and i connected with it for some reason
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and i just made a promise to myself that
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i will always be in contact with you
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even if it's just to send you
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a word and to tell you you are my spirit
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today i hope all as well
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secondly um i recognize your your gift
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and your talent and i always knew that
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there was something
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super super special about you and i'm
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just so happy
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just to just witness what god has just
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allowed us to see just a little bit of
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what you're capable of doing i just hope
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that my prayer for you is that you
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continue to be obedient and walk in your
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faith
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and pour out to people because this is
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just only the beginning of what um
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god has has anointed you to do you are
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filled and blessed with talent
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and i hope you just keep stretching out
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and finding your way
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[Applause]
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i did let you
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[Applause]
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yo let me say this and let me let tracy
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jump on this too uh
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citizens 888-742-3345
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um this project that you put together
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man it got you
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your soul all up in it and often i hear
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folks that are always asking me
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who should i be listening to new music
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new artists osman is not new
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um by no means that freestyle we played
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was in 2015.
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uh but he's been he's been building uh
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since then and he's fresher than any new
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artist you're going to hear
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this album is incredible i'll put it up
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against any album that's out right now
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my favorite album um really was
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uh you know um benny the butcher uh
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buster rhymes buster rhymes album uh
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with six boys
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yeah yeah all of these different heavy
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hitter albums
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i put this up there i put this up there
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because you found your soul in this and
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i've played that interlude
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because i wanted people to understand
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how this thing came together joy comes
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in the morning
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wasn't even the original title of the
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album
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um and the significance of this day
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can we talk about how the significance
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of this day
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in particular the seventh um impacted
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your life
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and impacted your music man
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uh so uh my my best friend uh
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growing up nazi mercy um he passed
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a year ago today and um
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i'll be honest with you like we've been
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taught
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um especially like as as black people to
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normalize
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that's what i'm saying like it's in all
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our favorite movies it's in all our
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favorite music you got
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classic lines like peyton paul like yo
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[ __ ] daddy baby
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[ __ ] get shot a baby and we're taught
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to normalize this very very
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traumatic thing so for a while that's
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what it was i was it was very difficult
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for me to show empathy to people who
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experienced loss because i've never had
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to deal with one that close
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so when it happened it really humanized
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it and made me realize
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how not normal this giant really really
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is like
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and i remember just going through the
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going through the motion i remember the
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phone call
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i remember where i was and i remember
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the day before like i was really on the
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phone with the dude
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i was really on the phone with nazi
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freestyling for like 30 minutes
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yeah i mean and then we and then we
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would get into whatever it is we have to
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talk about so
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on the on the turbulence the turbulence
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probably was the first song i made for
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the for the project
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and i remember i rewrote the first verse
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mad times
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and when i finally got it i remember
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calling him i called him on the sixth
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and i was like yo he gotta hit his verse
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he gotta hit his verse and this this was
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a guy like even when i went to you with
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the with the um
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with the verse last year when we did
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godfrey with the um the five fingers of
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that verse like i rewrote that verse so
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many times i
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i was working on adversity years and
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that's to do that i would call to hear
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all ten minutes of the verse
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every time i would call him and then
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he'll critique it like ah you lost me
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right here around seven minutes and he
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might want to take that out
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yeah i mean like that was the guy that i
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would go to for that you know what i
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mean so that's what i was doing
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for turbulence and he didn't pick up he
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didn't pick up he didn't pick up
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so i was like i'm gonna call him later
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and after a while like i really didn't
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hear from him and that's that's when i
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got a call from uh
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from another one of my best friends day
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shawn and he was just like yo naji just
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passed
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and i was like whatever i remember
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calling his phone
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after i heard it leaving up leaving a
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voicemail like yo bro this is not funny
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like [ __ ] think that you're dead like
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pick up the phone my [ __ ] and let
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people know that
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this is like if you play in the game
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this is this is a very this is a sick
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game i mean
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and then over time dealing with that
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like i wanted to throw music
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out i didn't want to do music i'm
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working like yo what is it ain't no cool
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metaphor simile
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that could really capture what i'm
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feeling i don't even know if i want to
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do this join no more and i remember
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really wanting to hang it up and and his
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mom hit me
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and she was just like yo um i'm in the
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house
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and i seen nazi's headphones and
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speakers and she was like my fault my
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voice is like cracking up and all that
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and she was just like yo do you want
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these
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and i was just like yo if that's not a
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sign to keep going
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i don't know what is so from that point
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on is when it's just like all right cool
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and it wasn't intentional like i'm gonna
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make the greatest album that i've ever
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made i was like i'm really just gonna go
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through the motions
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like everybody know i says oh he's a
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religious guy he talks about god and
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stuff but for this i was just like yo
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like if i'm being real like i don't
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really [ __ ] with that right now
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because there's a lot of nonsense going
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on in the world and why would you have
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to pick my man just me being
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you know finite in my human league
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wisdom and you know what i'm saying
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unstable emotions i was beefing with god
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and you know what i'm saying
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my faith took a toll you know i'm saying
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my relationships around me took a toll i
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cut a lot of people
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off like went into depression and then
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yeah i mean through that though
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the joy part was i learned to appreciate
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life not even in a cliche way like
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you talk about like even getting married
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and stuff like my whole perspective
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towards marriage change it was just like
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you know everybody's scared of this for
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every word
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and not like i knowing that you can be
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gone tomorrow forever
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my forever with steps could be done in
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the next 10 minutes
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yeah i'm saying so let me cherish every
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moment i have as opposed to dreading
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forever
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you know what i mean so like it was so
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many lessons it was so much life
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and that's that's the seed that sparked
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the entire album bro um wow man
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um you let's wow that that's
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that's um that's deep i want to play
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this song
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air murph and can you tell us about that
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song
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uh so uh the air murk interlude um
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so i was talking to
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he was doing music in atlanta with um
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this dude named chaz that he went to
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morehouseway and another dude named name
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um cam they're both dope artists as well
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too so
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uh i was talking to them and i was just
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like yo
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i i kind of got to get naji on this
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album i know he was working with child
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so any acapellas or whatever y'all have
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let me know
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and we'll build something around it or
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whatever and he sent me
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this one joint he was just like yo naji
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uh
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he was away for a while came back and he
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had this freestyle where he was just
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beating on the table and rapping i could
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send that to you
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and i was like yo send that to me asap
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and i had so much trouble with the
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order that was going to be the intro to
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the to the album
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and i was just like i don't know if i
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want to kick it off like that
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and then i like it being plain i was
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just like yo this is dope
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but i need something else here so i hit
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i hit uh roger producer up
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and he knew 902 and i was like yo this
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is difficult but i think i need you to i
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need you to
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i need you specifically to touch this
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one because you knew how close he was
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and you knew him too so and i was like
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at the end you know just throw some
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instrumentation in there and i want it
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to sound like he's ascending
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upwards you know what i mean like the
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verse is gonna fade out and you're gonna
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hit the music coming in and it's kind of
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like
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that feeling that i felt after he passed
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like alright cool he's not here and i
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just pray to god that he's in a better
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place that feeling i wanted to relay
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that
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musically that's what the that's what
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the um that's what that air murk in the
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loo was
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here it is sway in the morning shave
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[Music]
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round of applause man
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i like that man nigel you made it to
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sway in the morning baby
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hey keep that going it's happening guys
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when you got your man
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on sway in the morning we gonna keep
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that legacy alive
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amen we gonna keep his legacy alive
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let's do it
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that that's when benjamin is here
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[Applause]
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888-742-3334
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as you as you guys know i've got to talk
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to husband a couple times on here and
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i'll try to keep it short but godfrey is
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one of my favorite albums ever
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so i mean there's a lot going into this
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and
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uh i have to say there's definite didn't
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disappoint
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you can see the growth um i feel
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kind of like godfrey was like his life
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story
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uh history this is the present in the
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future
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um you can see all his talents
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with the singing and the soul that you
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have mentioned and i guess i would say
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my standout track
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uh is probably talking to god
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um you want to speak to that eyes one
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yeah my full job take your time brother
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yo kyle what's going on man you smelling
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bro
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yo yeah yep
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oh you said uh yeah talking to god um
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yeah talking to god was a rough one bro
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uh that was
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i don't think it ever that that's the
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longest song it ever like
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it ever took me to write it took me some
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monster right there
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and i had to you know i'm saying like
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just dealing with uh
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dealing with different emotions and [ __ ]
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you know what i mean like uh
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i thought it was done at first and then
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you know it was some cool lines in there
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and i was like nah this is not that type
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of song
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this is a song i really just i isolating
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all the metaphors and punchlines and
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similes
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like i just really want to let god know
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for real like yo
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son like i really feel like you're not
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there sometimes
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you know what i'm saying like there's a
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lot of people that's wilding in the
13:04
world right now
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i'm saying like the world is in shambles
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the condition of it is in shambles you
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have
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yeah i mean like going through this
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whole like the george floyd situations
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and the brianna taylor situations and
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you know what i mean like watching these
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things and watching cops get off and
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you know it was kind of like yo there's
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a lot of evil going on and there's great
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people
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that are just that aren't here anymore
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your kobe's your chat with bozeman's
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your nas murphy's you know what i mean
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so it's kind of like yo i know
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like mama said your ways are perfect you
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know what i'm saying but sometimes you
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know i don't know
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because it seems it seems like you
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[ __ ] up
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you know what i mean and it's really
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like growing up how i grew up it was
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hard to have that conversation because
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you don't question god you don't do
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these things
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like nah i got questions bro i got
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questions
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and it feels like you messing up so it
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was just me getting my frustrations out
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um and it was it was difficult because i
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had to
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i had to go against how i was programmed
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to really get those emotions out you
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know
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now i'm glad you're saying that oswald
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and i'm glad colin kind of triggered the
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answer
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ask the question that triggered that
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answer because i think so many people
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get confused when it comes to
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exactly what you're saying but one of
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the things in the word
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it says god says come let us reason
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together and i don't think it's a matter
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of
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questioning god it's more like god said
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let's reason
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and any sway would say that to you so i
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would say that to tracy
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misway you say look come on let's sit
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down and talk so he's saying come let us
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reason together
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so there's nothing wrong with expressing
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sometimes that you feel confused you
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feel
14:36
mad you feel unappreciated you like why
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not this person instead of like
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did that's okay i think and i think
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because we do shy away from that
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we don't ask those questions sometimes
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in prayer so people boil them things up
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and just walk around confuse and look
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around for different outlets to fill
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those voids so
14:53
thank you for answering that question
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the way you did i just thought that you
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tapped into what a lot of people have
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been feeling
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yeah i appreciate that
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all right hey completely agree colin um
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thank you thank you for your call man
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colin is one of our our biggest
15:09
supporters
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yeah and we love you happy new year
15:12
collin you know you're here
15:14
thanks colin thank you okay all right uh
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thank you bro
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real quick uh sam from tampa you wanted
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to say something about that
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what up sam sam
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who is this guy oswald benjamin my
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god bruh bruh let me tell you you
15:32
started with that table top drum beat
15:38
finger accents i'm like okay this is
15:40
gonna be a sick instrumental
15:42
and then you like completely surprised
15:44
me with that acapella
15:46
freestyle type oh my gosh dude bruh i
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got chills immediately in my arms bro
15:51
like i'm an automatic fan automatic fan
15:54
all that wisdom you just dropped
15:56
immediately that's that that
15:57
the gems man thank you for sharing those
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transitions bro because
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everyone is going through that everybody
16:04
goes to that
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elevation or evolution in life that you
16:08
know something has to break in order for
16:10
us to change and if we're not
16:12
aware to make those you know
16:15
those changes in ourselves then you know
16:18
what we're going to be stuck and thank
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you for sharing that man because a lot
16:21
of us are going through this
16:22
and you know we're wondering where we
16:24
need to go left right
16:26
straight but you know i'm thank you man
16:28
thank you i appreciate you
16:30
and uh wow i'm definitely gonna be
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following you bro appreciate you
16:34
hey sam his new album is out today it's
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called
16:37
joy comes in the morning sam get this
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out
16:40
i'm on it man get this album okay you're
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a citizen
16:43
you're a citizen yeah you hear that real
16:49
oh man voice excited tracy yes indeed
16:55
bruh my dude
16:58
i love you god loves you
17:02
all you already know
17:05
i appreciate you in so many ways like
17:09
introduced to you as an artist but
17:10
getting to know you
17:12
as a human bro and we've always
17:16
known you to be someone who can look at
17:20
their adverse circumstances and
17:22
find a way to spin it so that they
17:25
become
17:26
growth opportunities you know what i'm
17:29
saying
17:30
and it's such a it's a it's a process
17:33
when you're just one person but then
17:35
it's another thing when
17:36
you making it into a body of work for
17:39
others to hear
17:40
as as well that's a hell of a balancing
17:42
act
17:43
and so i salute you for doing that i
17:46
wanna
17:47
also talk about though the um
17:50
different changes that you are making
17:52
presently as far as
17:54
with marriage i love the sequencing on
17:57
the album that's
17:58
always important i always look at that
18:00
like i love
18:01
how we go from cabernet that's got my
18:03
guy anthony flamia on that anthony i
18:05
used to host
18:06
freaking amateur nights where he was
18:08
killing it early like
18:10
six years
18:14
so good i also love when any dude is out
18:17
here just keeping it real about going
18:19
down on they lady but i won't touch on
18:21
that too much
18:22
but i like that there what are we
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talking about right now
18:26
listen
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and then after cabernet we go into oz
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how are you and then we get to hear the
18:37
actual voice of your wife
18:39
stephanie and it makes me think how
18:41
outside of that album but
18:43
the journey you guys are on moving from
18:46
new york to arizona correct
18:49
yes how did that
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yes talk about it man i'ma be honest
18:56
with you and and this may sound like you
18:57
know contrary to popular belief and i
18:59
don't want to sound insensitive
19:00
but um this pandemic
19:04
um although it's been uh catastrophic
19:08
in many ways there's been so many
19:11
blessings in it
19:12
and being able to save
19:15
and really sit with our thoughts and
19:17
figure out what our next moves were
19:19
um i don't think we would have been able
19:22
to do that
19:22
without this pandemic you know what i
19:25
mean so we
19:26
sat down and was like yo new york ain't
19:29
it well for what we we was paying we was
19:32
paying
19:33
to live in a very very small space
19:38
and we were seeing how we would like you
19:39
know i mean like
19:41
the inability to really breathe and
19:42
stretch your arms and
19:44
walk around how you want to it was it
19:46
was taking a toll on us
19:48
so like yo you know what i'm gonna get
19:51
after after the whole marriage thing we
19:54
spoke about it
19:55
and uh it was it was crazy because he's
19:57
gonna leave in march
19:59
he's gonna leave in march and then the
20:00
landlord came uh
20:02
in november and was and uh on stepmom
20:05
birthday matter of fact november 3rd my
20:06
little pulled up and was like yo i'm
20:08
selling the crib so yeah i got to be out
20:09
by january 1st
20:11
i was like that's crazy
20:17
so i was just like yo i guess this is
20:19
happening faster than
20:20
faster than we thought so we ended up
20:23
and like yo when i tell you god was so
20:26
in this move
20:27
check this out and i'm gonna try to make
20:28
this quick because i know we're on the
20:29
town you know the timeline
20:30
you're good man you tell me so
20:34
after that you know i mean we applied
20:36
for an apartment and then we ended up
20:37
getting it
20:38
right so we hyped we hiked you know what
20:40
i'm saying we applied to another drone
20:41
we got that one too so we got two drinks
20:43
to pick from i was like yo my credit is
20:44
way better than i thought
20:45
it's lit you feel me so after we go
20:49
to uh you know set electricity up in the
20:52
spot all that right
20:54
we drive by steph's mom's crib because
20:56
she's doing steph's uh cousins here
20:58
right so he's like oh she's barely here
21:00
let's go chop it up with her
21:02
she's like yo let me see the apartment
21:04
and be like all right cool so we was
21:05
used to looking at the apartment on a
21:07
certain
21:07
application so we'd be looking at the
21:09
apartment and uh stefan got
21:11
the address so she typed it in on google
21:13
it's the first time looking at the
21:15
apartment on google and we saw the
21:16
reviews and it was
21:17
crazy like when i tell you they had
21:19
complaints by categories like you want
21:21
to talk about roach infestation
21:22
you got that some [ __ ] said there was a
21:24
hole in this room for six months
21:26
somebody else 12 people was talking
21:28
about negligent property management
21:29
another 12 people
21:31
it was just like yo with terrible
21:32
reviews everywhere and i'm just like yo
21:34
we was dead about to move
21:38
across the country to this terrible
21:40
terrible spot so we really have to sit
21:42
down
21:42
and think and then you know i'm saying
21:44
regrouped and everything and then we
21:46
ended up finding a whole nother spot
21:48
which is crazy and the way that it
21:50
happened the lady was just like yo i i
21:51
understand our situation here's what i
21:53
could do i'm gonna take such and such a
21:54
mind over the rent i'm gonna give y'all
21:55
three weeks free
21:56
y'all got parking over here y'all got
21:58
this over here and i'm just like yo if
22:00
we never stopped by
22:01
steph's mom house to show her cousin the
22:03
address we would have never seen what
22:05
happened
22:06
when we'd have never ended up having to
22:07
step into a better opportunity and it's
22:09
just like even with that
22:10
those emotions that i felt while i was
22:12
going on i was like yo god you really
22:14
really different for him
22:18
what i'm saying like i felt so
22:20
disappointed and you know as a husband
22:22
now i'm just like yo
22:23
i was really about to pick my wife up in
22:26
a u-haul
22:27
drive across country to the jets in a
22:30
spot that we've never even been at
22:31
before so you know you start to
22:33
it was starting to weigh on my mind like
22:34
yo damn i feel like i failed and i'm
22:36
just starting at this drink
22:37
so having to go through that and you
22:39
know what i mean like and working
22:40
through it with her like nah i just want
22:42
to say well we both ain't know now we're
22:43
just about to find something better like
22:44
it's alright cool you could be tight for
22:46
a little bit but let's get to it
22:48
and you know i mean we're gonna find
22:49
something better and that's been a
22:50
testament of
22:51
our of our relationship for years it's
22:53
like alright cool
22:54
all right you're not that's whack but
22:56
we're gonna figure it out yeah it is
22:58
you know what i mean yeah i i was so
23:01
happy and proud of you just as a friend
23:03
you know as a as a um as a brother
23:06
when you made that decision and and got
23:09
on bended knee stephanie man it's
23:11
something to be said about a lot of
23:12
times when we see artists or
23:14
actors or entertainers we don't know
23:16
what they got going on
23:17
at home you know we just know what makes
23:19
them great you know but i i watched it
23:22
if i may ask my eyes when i watch
23:24
stephanie i watch her stand by you
23:26
through thick and thin
23:28
now i i you know from the amount of time
23:29
that i've known you and so
23:31
i oh i i think that's a testament to
23:34
your evolution
23:35
because a lot of times artists grow
23:37
without their partners
23:38
they don't necessarily incorporate their
23:40
partners in the processes i'm going on
23:42
tour
23:42
i'll be back you know i gotta negotiate
23:45
this deal i'll be back
23:46
you know this happened i'll be back but
23:49
steph is everywhere
23:50
with you and it's witnessed on your
23:52
instagram on your social media
23:54
the whole nine i love what you're
23:56
learning and especially when you said
23:58
thank god
23:59
move different god moves different
24:02
puts things in front of you that you
24:04
don't even know
24:06
why they're there but they're gonna help
24:08
you get to that next
24:09
into that like think about where you
24:11
were when this album started and where
24:13
you are now
24:14
as we move is different heather you
24:16
gotta see him
24:18
he's moving different you took the bull
24:20
by the horns and now you spearhead in
24:22
your own thing
24:23
this is all you your creation you
24:26
creating your own universe
24:28
this is why it's so important too and i
24:30
didn't know all of this but this is why
24:32
it's so important too
24:33
y'all citizens to sway in the morning be
24:35
obedient like you never know just like i
24:37
was saying it's like sometimes
24:39
god will just hit me in my spirit and
24:41
say sent eyes on a text
24:43
i don't know what osman is going through
24:45
but i'll shoot him a text
24:46
i had no idea until today at this moment
24:49
that he was going through at that time
24:51
what he was going through like
24:52
depression and questioning god
24:54
or whatever the case may be and ozman
24:56
always was just how to hit me back and
24:58
go wow
24:59
i really appreciated this right now or i
25:01
needed this right now
25:02
i had no idea what's going through but
25:04
y'all when you feel something on your
25:06
gut
25:06
feel something on your spirit yo do that
25:08
because you never know how you
25:09
encouraging inspiring and blessing
25:11
somebody else you
25:12
have no idea um it's true and you're
25:15
inspiring and blessing
25:17
um all those folks that even the folks
25:18
your team in um arizona i mean everybody
25:21
is inspired by what's happening
25:23
with this project there's a song you got
25:25
called move different
25:27
on this on this on this project it's a
25:29
song that you didn't even
25:30
particularly care for necessarily right
25:34
you didn't hear it yeah it was
25:37
it was honestly it was you bro
25:41
it was definitely you i remember when i
25:43
sent it to you
25:44
and i was like yo i don't know man
25:47
because it's like i feel like you know
25:48
the rapper is just like yo i need one
25:50
jank where i'm just
25:51
i'm just talking crazy i just need one
25:54
joint
25:55
and i'm you know that was that was to
25:57
serve the purpose for that also
25:59
incorporating
26:00
you know real live situations but for
26:02
the most part it's just like hi cool
26:03
we're gonna be really really crafty
26:05
with the with the metaphors and the
26:07
similes and the word play we're going to
26:09
be really crappy with that on this one
26:11
and i was just like yo i mean this one
26:13
is cool
26:15
i mean i'm not only like feel it like
26:17
that and then i sent it to you and you
26:18
was like yo bro you're a buggy
26:22
i was in oakland when you sent it when i
26:25
was driving i was like oh let me hear
26:27
that
26:27
i was driving across the bay bridge i
26:30
was like he didn't like this one
26:32
maybe i'm bugging i start playing it all
26:34
around okay i start i start playing it
26:36
for people like tcal cal
26:38
yeah and t cal was like yo he nice he
26:40
got bars
26:41
and so uh but you you just never know
26:44
you just never know i'ma play move
26:46
different i want to keep these phone
26:48
lines open nina
26:49
from oakland we're going to come to you
26:51
um and we're going to talk about the 40
26:53
year old version
26:54
uh number one movie on netflix uh
26:58
osmond's the star in it when the co-star
27:00
the co-star
27:01
we have ryder blank on the show to talk
27:03
about it um yeah
27:05
let's let's talk about what's going on
27:07
with osmond benjamin a new album joy
27:09
comes in the morning is out today
27:11
[Applause]
27:18
888-742-3345
27:26
this is about creating something that is
27:28
mine you're not just talking about [ __ ]
27:30
you're making [ __ ] [ __ ]
27:32
i you don't think i'm some crazy old
27:35
girl for doing this
27:39
i mean i ain't saying all that
27:42
40 year old virgin white man
27:48
yes odds when benjamin is here 888 yeah
27:52
742-3345 the album is joy comes in the
27:55
morning
27:56
that was a clip from the netflix film
27:58
the 40-year-old virgin
27:59
which did extremely well congratulations
28:01
to ryder
28:02
blank who directed it and she was on our
28:05
show
28:06
produced by lena weitz who became
28:08
osmond's best friend
28:09
um
28:12
and oswin played the role as d he was
28:15
the co-star in the movie and
28:17
in case folks don't know let me be the
28:20
first to tell you i want to say
28:21
congratulations to oswin
28:23
uh because he was nominated uh for the
28:26
screening netflix awards
28:28
give it up for uh
28:32
best actor in the supporting role you
28:35
and
28:35
uh you up against reid bernie and peter
28:38
kim
28:39
this was his first acting role we'll
28:41
know that we don't know them no
28:42
disrespect we don't know that
28:46
we don't know them sway yeah we don't
28:49
know them i just wanted to put them out
28:50
there
28:51
yeah yeah yeah yeah so uh
28:53
congratulations uh
28:54
what can you tell us about this
28:56
experience i know it was a time
28:58
i can't think of where kelly kincade and
29:00
i were
29:02
you were in africa okay
29:06
he's stunning how long yeah
29:23
yeah we were in africa having dinner
29:28
um with the owners of a soccer team
29:29
there we had stogy
29:31
t was there um jesus i can't remember
29:34
everybody was there but it was just
29:36
um a lot of great people my man sees way
29:39
from
29:40
africa's tremendous journalists and
29:42
we're having this amazing conversation
29:44
with these uh folks from south africa
29:46
all all shakers and movers all doing
29:48
amazing things
29:50
and kelly tapped me and was like i was
29:52
like what's going on she said i gotta
29:53
excuse
29:54
myself from this conversation i was like
29:55
what whoa wow wow really
29:57
you're lost and i said what's going on
29:59
she said i'm trying to convince oswin
30:02
to audition for this role
30:06
and i said are you kidding me she said
30:08
no i started laughing at you because i
30:11
knew ultimately you was going to do that
30:12
wrong we was going to
30:14
figure that we just going to figure that
30:15
out but and then i said well what what
30:17
is his reservation
30:19
and so i want to ask you um because it's
30:22
a it's a learnable moment in that
30:24
that people could learn from sometimes
30:26
we get in our own way we talked about
30:28
this
30:28
uh a few days ago and
30:32
we knock ourselves out the game talk
30:33
about the apprehension you had about
30:36
auditioning initially and then talk
30:37
about the gang you feel now that you've
30:39
done it
30:41
ah it was it was pure unadulterated
30:45
uncut fear you know what i mean
30:48
yeah and that that's that's all it was
30:51
and i was like yo i never did this
30:53
before
30:54
and i was like yo you know i don't want
30:56
to be the dude that's known for
30:57
the the movie knowing that i have you
31:00
know the music stuff going and it was
31:02
and i think it was a fear of
31:04
putting in all this work in one area and
31:07
having one thing outshine the years of
31:09
work that you put in here and also just
31:10
like
31:11
not understanding that yo god nothing
31:14
like
31:15
it's weird it's like it was it was i
31:17
didn't have the realization then that yo
31:19
everything works together for your good
31:21
so this i'm never put in a position
31:22
where i could lose
31:23
like any door that i'm not supposed to
31:25
walk through it it has to close you know
31:27
what i mean it's biblical it's a promise
31:28
like
31:29
i can never lose like everything that's
31:31
for me i'mma get in if it's not for me
31:33
i'm not gonna get it
31:33
so there's no reason i operate in fear
31:35
but that's where i was at at that time
31:37
i was like yo i'm scared you know what
31:39
i'm saying i never had to memorize
31:41
nobody's lines but my own
31:43
i never been on camera before like
31:45
unless
31:46
i was shooting a music video you know
31:47
what i mean so i'm just like nah you
31:49
know what
31:50
i ain't even gonna do it because i don't
31:52
want to embarrass myself you know what i
31:53
mean i didn't want to be put in a
31:54
situation where i wasn't comfortable
31:56
i was scared to be uncomfortable that's
31:58
what it was so what did you learn about
32:01
making yourself being uncomfortable
32:03
what'd you learn from it
32:04
um it's it's like there's methods
32:08
to to growth but i feel like that's the
32:10
most
32:11
effective i feel like i was like just
32:13
looking back on my life like i've never
32:16
i feel like i've never been in an
32:17
uncomfortable situation that i didn't
32:19
grow from
32:20
you know what i mean so it's just like
32:22
yeah that
32:23
that joint and and and the thing is like
32:26
i feel like
32:27
us we make things worse in our head than
32:29
they are you know what i mean it's kind
32:31
of like
32:32
with music and doing shows it's like you
32:34
get super nervous because you're just
32:35
like yo what if i [ __ ] up on stage
32:37
not knowing that everyone that's there
32:39
is not expecting you to [ __ ] up you're
32:40
the only one that's expecting that from
32:42
yourself
32:42
like no one goes to a show like yo that
32:44
guy's gonna [ __ ] up and i can't wait
32:46
you know what i mean everyone is going
32:47
there just to enjoy themselves and have
32:49
a good time you know what i mean so we
32:51
psych ourselves out just like yo what if
32:53
i mess up
32:54
and what if i do this and decide the end
32:55
of it it's like okay what did you do
32:57
you know what then you learn from that
32:59
and you'll be better next time you feel
33:01
me so that was that's the game that i
33:02
got and i didn't get every line right
33:04
i didn't memorize every line there was
33:06
some stuff i had to be walked through
33:08
there was
33:08
i was utilizing the people on set like
33:10
yo if you were my character
33:12
and you had this line like how would you
33:14
say that
33:15
like all right cool well i looking at
33:17
the context before and after i will
33:18
probably do it like this
33:20
all right cool cool and then i would
33:21
take that and then i would you know i'm
33:22
saying i just didn't make it my own like
33:25
so it was it was like i think will smith
33:27
says i'm like everything you ever wanted
33:29
is on the other side of fear and it's so
33:30
true bro so like thank y'all
33:34
for that conversation thank you kelly
33:36
kincaid
33:37
for that talk and for really strong
33:39
armor like man you going to this
33:40
audition whether you like it or not
33:46
shout out to kelly for that sometimes
33:48
you gotta
33:49
put the muscle on that head since then
33:52
uh since then with acting have you done
33:54
you've done um some table reads what
33:56
else you got anything you can talk about
33:57
yes
33:58
i did uh the different world table read
34:02
with uh debbie allen and tessa thompson
34:06
and yara shahidi
34:08
there was a bunch of them there um and
34:10
i've just been doing a lot of
34:11
a lot of auditions um so as uh
34:15
waiting for a couple things to be to be
34:17
solidified you know if it's interesting
34:19
guy as well but it's been
34:20
it's been dope just to do the audition i
34:23
have to learn how to do audition page
34:24
learn how to
34:25
hold the camera for that you know what i
34:27
mean like it's just it's still a process
34:29
and i'm still getting into it
34:30
and i actually like i honestly love this
34:32
drink bro like i'm i definitely want to
34:34
do
34:34
way more films awesome benjamin ladies
34:37
and gentlemen i'm going to take a
34:38
caller the album is joy comes in the
34:41
morning
34:42
i'm going to play the song black john
34:44
wick in a second
34:46
but that's how we going close that's our
34:49
closer
34:50
joy comes in the morning what is the
34:52
meaning behind that title
34:55
uh so there's a there's a script in the
34:58
bible that goes a weeping may endure
35:00
for a night but joy comes in the morning
35:02
right so it's like you know nothing
35:03
don't
35:04
nothing lasts forever you know i mean
35:06
the happiness
35:07
pain nothing laughs it's all momentary
35:10
but
35:10
for this um being you know i'm saying
35:13
that
35:13
the marriage and the funeral to play so
35:16
close together
35:17
and it's like losing life and then
35:18
finding it again um
35:20
even the spelling of mourning is morning
35:22
with the with the you in it and i was
35:23
just like yo i really
35:24
through this process i really did find
35:27
joy
35:28
within the morning you know i mean
35:29
within the morning my friend within the
35:31
morning
35:31
relationships i may not be as invested
35:35
in anymore within the morning
35:37
leaving new york morning leaving family
35:39
behind i just
35:40
there's every aspect of that there's
35:42
been joy you know what i mean
35:44
there's enjoyment and finding finding a
35:46
wife finding a new place you know what i
35:48
mean
35:49
uh you know i'm saying being able to
35:51
create an album like this like
35:52
everything really worked together for
35:54
the good and i really through the
35:56
morning i
35:56
found so much joy as as
36:00
as well as grief and pain and everything
36:02
else but i found a lot of joy
36:04
in this project and i found a lot of joy
36:06
in creating it and then just
36:08
it's a it's a direct reflection of my
36:10
life bro
36:11
absolutely eyes when benjamin man give
36:13
that man a round of applause i only need
36:15
to say that
36:16
you should be able to sense where the
36:18
applause come in
36:20
[Music]
36:22
nina uh
36:25
grand rises nina i appreciate you
36:27
staying on i know you've been on hold
36:28
for long y'all say what up to um nina
36:30
nina good morning
36:36
good morning uh sway i listen to the
36:38
show every morning on my way to work
36:41
but i also told sway i'm kind of old so
36:44
i could be some of you guys grandma
36:46
i wanted to talk to us of what you
36:50
yours the music you played
36:53
regarding your friend passing
36:56
and the interlude and the start of that
36:59
song
36:59
i actually cried you have a gift
37:03
more than any words can explain
37:07
go you are god's child and if i can
37:10
feel it all the way i don't know you
37:11
guys where you're at i'm in california
37:13
i'm from oakland
37:15
i can feel it through your music that
37:18
made me drop a tear
37:21
so i'm going to follow you i'm going to
37:23
listen to your songs but i'm older and i
37:26
don't listen to everything
37:27
that's a matter or more than your music
37:30
yeah and that you're above that feeling
37:32
has no age limit
37:34
don't matter what you're looking for
37:37
you've been blessed if you're older
37:38
you've been blessed more than many
37:40
that's the only thing that represents
37:42
you know exactly exactly um
37:45
that's amazing get that album get that
37:48
album i will all right
37:50
i heard that it came out today i will be
37:52
purchasing i will be
37:53
uh listening to your music and keep
37:55
going young man
37:56
you have it in you to reach a lot of
37:59
people
37:59
throughout this world just by your
38:03
come music nina you're a citizen
38:06
in the morning thank you thanks nina
38:10
all the accuracy hey eyes
38:13
yes can i squeeze one more thing in
38:15
before we let oz go
38:17
i gotta know because another um big time
38:21
talented um artist who really made a big
38:24
splash when i answered sway in the
38:26
morning
38:26
um toby newigway and i know you guys
38:30
embrace each other's work are always
38:33
bigging each other up on social and i
38:34
just kept thinking to myself
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is there some type of collaboration
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brewing up
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oh you know what i think i think we
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should since we were talking about
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kelly and the muscle and the strong arm
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i think we should really strong on toby
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and had that conversation together
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that now i mean like that's that's my i
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talk to toby at least like once a week
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like that's like we're really friends
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like in real life
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and we never talk about music you know
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what i mean so it's like
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i never reached out and asked and you
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know what i mean but
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i would i'd love to get on on the record
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with toby toby nice
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incredible come on man if drake and
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future doing collabo albums you and toby
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should be doing collabo albums come on
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yeah i'm chad hey get it man you want to
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make you want to make that call sway
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hey toby
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hey toby it's your homie sway won't you
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and osmond get together in the studio
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and do a collabo album
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my man toby and newegwe all right there
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you go we just made the call
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hey uh hey man proud of you
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uh yes very proud of you osman this is
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beyond how we know each other this album
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i remember when um
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watch the throne came out and i said
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this is a hip-hop album on wings with
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wings
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this is a hip-hop album with angel wings
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on it
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you can't rate this you just digest this
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eyes when benjamin round of applies man
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we gonna talk more
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joy comes in the morning hey oscar get a
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verse ready and we bring them freestyles
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back get it ready
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you mean like right now no not right now
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no no you're good you're good
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you're good man all right cool i'm gonna
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play i'm gonna play
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black john wick right now and real quick
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uh can you speak on that
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got you so black john wick uh is
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featuring tammy stevens who's
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all over this album who really who
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really really helped make this album
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phenomenal uh it's tammy stevens and a
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great friend of mine
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by the name of blackway he did uh he did
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the spiderman enter the universal what's
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up danger song
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and his career's just been going crazy
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since then but that's like a really
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really good friend of mine and uh
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when i called him for it i called a
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couple people for that
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and um you know what i'm saying like i
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guess
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timing issues and things like that we're
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a little we're a little
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weird but i called uh d smoke to get on
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that record
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uh rex life rise you know what i'm
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saying voice
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and uh i sent it to black yo why did i
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send it to blacklight
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i sent it the black way and i promise
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you he sent it back to me
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the next day oh well he was meant to be
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on it
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right yes yeah he was the next guy bro
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so shout out shout out to blackway and
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tammy stevens
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this is black john wick this song is
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hard but i'm not gonna lie
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it's hard hey listen ozman benjamin
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thank you for being on the show
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you guys get the album joy comes in the
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morning you know you're a
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citizen brother in the morning
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[Applause]
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up next
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