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G Herbo Opens Up About His Brother's Death, Dealing with Depression & New Album 'Survivors Remorse'
Oct 13, 2022
It has been a while since we heard from Herbo, and he has done a lot in that time. He stopped by Sway In The Morning to catch up with family and talk about his new project Survivor's Remorse.
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G Herbo Opens Up About His Brother's Death, Dealing with Depression & New Album 'Survivors Remorse'
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[Applause]
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that was back in 2015. I remember that
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conversation that's crazy that's seven
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years ago that's seven wow
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make no sense pistol P project remember
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that talked about this last time he came
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up we were doing the math about this
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young man who by the way I want to say
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um I'm extremely proud of him thank you
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and and I mean this as as not just as
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somebody who's worked in the music
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forget the business the entertainment
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side I do not do this for the industry
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I've been in it long enough I'm done
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with industry I do this because of
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relationships culture pushing Community
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forward when I see talented people and I
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understand their gifts you know I have a
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third eye that's incredible
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I've been seeing the future since before
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I was born okay you know I know okay and
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I saw something and you uh when we first
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met was it South by Southwest South by
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Southwest Boston Texas that was 2011.
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Jesus
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Jesus that was 2011
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11 years ago
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Your Truth wow was necessary I do this
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every time you come up here because I I
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think it's important that we don't know
1:13
when we're gonna see each other again we
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don't know it's been some crazy times
1:17
out here but when I do see you I see you
1:20
with your kids I see you with your
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family I see you face an adversity head
1:24
on and I see you making it through it I
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see you striving and in the midst of all
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of that the thing that's really
1:31
important to me is that you keep
1:32
improving and growing and evolving as an
1:35
artist
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and so your contribution to the culture
1:39
now and to the community is different
1:40
your responsibility to the culture and
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Community is different you still got to
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be yourself and so when I listen to this
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project survivors were more citizens I
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want you guys to pick this up side a
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side B it's just to me now we're here to
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learn yeah when you used to come we was
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teaching yeah right now we're here to
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learn welcome him back to the shoulder
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one and only G herbo is here come on man
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y'all better stop playing
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Me Myself and I
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[Applause]
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how you been bro lovely Robin good man
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I've been feeling good I feel blessed
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but you happy I'm happy right now like
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you happy with life happy with life
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right now amen I'm grateful what's
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making you most happy uh what's making
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me most happy is the energy around me
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you know like
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a lot of people don't know behind the
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scenes you know I went through a lot
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like in this past two years recording
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this project you know my little brother
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passed away January 28 2021 you know
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what I'm saying that put me in like a
2:39
real mental slump you feel me but
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um I think me actually like you said
2:44
just taking an adversity head on and
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dealing with it and just trying to
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become the best version of myself and
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you know I'm saying like it paid off
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like God really blessing me right now I
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feel the energy around me everything
2:55
different the responses that I get from
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people you know I'm saying like just the
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energy around me I could I could see
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that things are getting better for me
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mentally you know absolutely beautiful
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that's right you won't stay heavy you've
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always been tapped into it and I'm gonna
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get straight to it because I know we
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don't have you long and you mentioned
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your little brother passed away you also
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mentioned one of the songs
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that um I mentioned to you is a song
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called outside looking in that's on this
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project and when I tell you when I
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listen to this song I I I've gotta even
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deeper understanding of
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um who you are right I want to play this
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song yeah can we play the song Let's Do
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It Let's Play the song this one it's one
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of the first songs I wrote in like five
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years this is the first song you wrote
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in five years
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we're gonna find out why citizens listen
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to the lyrics
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888-742-3345 Turn It Up
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[Applause]
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have the B is crying
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look he loves you bro he knows you know
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I love her to death she know that
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already well gotta talk about it this is
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literally my first industry nephew he
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knows that like I was telling him this
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morning I was like I was out with my
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godmother and my cousin for their
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birthdays ended up going to a Broadway
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play it was like oh come on let's go
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around the corner to get dinner and I'm
4:16
looking up and it's like this commotion
4:18
is at the door I'm like oh gosh some
4:21
rappers here like I'm just like I'm out
4:23
for an adult night I'm trying to show my
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godmother a good time and it's commotion
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and I look up I'm like what this is like
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because we've known him I'm so happy to
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see it it's like you think about 11
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years ago you know he was in the back of
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Nice Kicks in Austin Texas and South by
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Southwest saying I want to get on stage
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and to fast forward there is like you
4:50
were there like with the pandemonium in
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the restaurant I'm like
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and he says to me when I come back you
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gonna make me some chili
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and I just busted out laughing because
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I'm like how do you remember chili like
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out of all it was so good out of all the
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things to remember he was like and I'm
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like you could hit me anytime you know
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and to ask you to make chili but I kept
5:16
my word I said I wouldn't so I made you
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some chips
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[Applause]
5:24
I promise I'll be still going on your
5:26
page and just watch you cook like man I
5:28
want some more food
5:29
I made you some silly and I made you
5:32
some banana pudding herbal got food some
5:35
lemon and banana pudding I'm gonna get
5:37
you in I know you want something
5:42
amazing go ahead hold that you're gonna
5:43
let them hold it
5:45
yeah too so I made you some pudding
5:49
banana lemon and banana pudding and some
5:50
chili why are you good wow happy belated
5:53
birthday too yeah thank you shut up all
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the time
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around 174 years
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that's what I said when I seen him I'm
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like can you make me some more chili
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please please
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who cooks for you at home uh my girl
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cook all the time she's nice
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she's different you would think she 10
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years older than me the way she cooked
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that's part of how she got you huh
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no I ain't gonna let my girl really like
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to cook like she'd just be trying
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different stuff and you know what I'm
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saying like she cooked more to my mama
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my Mama come to the house my mama don't
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even touch the kitchen she just let her
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do her she that night
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if she's that nice make a vouch JB about
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two she different that's dope that
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family life
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um you know we you know when you come
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from a certain environment it's hard to
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really settle in and settle down even
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when you settle in and settle down it's
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always it's still like I'm still
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adjusting to it because I'm just so used
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to being outside you know what I'm
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saying like I feel like being in the
6:55
house I'm not really being my most
6:57
productive self you know what I'm saying
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so when I when I am home you know I try
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to spend that time as much as you know
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with my girl or my kids and stuff like
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that but I just like I'm so used to
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being outside grinding I gotta go do
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something like even if I go sit in the
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studio and just come up with ideas I
7:12
might come up with some video ideas or
7:14
something I just need my mind to be free
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for a couple hours so I could like just
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get something done for the day do you
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feel like do you feel like you got a
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song called flashbacks
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um and in that song you you're kind of
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letting people know that hey I am who I
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am today but don't have me go back yeah
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you know to that old yeah you know
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that's what flash that's what I took
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from flashbacks right that's what I you
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know that's what I was trying to like
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get across you know what I'm saying like
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as you grow and you elevate as a man
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it's I think that's just life and God
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gonna always test you and send people in
7:45
your life to test you you know what I'm
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saying so me just being a strong version
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of myself I got to know how to balance
7:51
that you feel me because it is like as a
7:53
person and you can contest to that we
7:55
don't really change who we are you know
7:56
what I'm saying we only just grow and
7:58
learn more you feel me so that's a
8:00
battle with myself like trying to not
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backtrack and become the person that I
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once was because I go through so much
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mentally and I deal with stuff I don't
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want to like explode or just you know
8:09
like get off the path of the journey
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like I know the journey we going this
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way you know what I'm saying so how do
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you do it though it's one of them
8:15
records it's being at home being with
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the family having a home-cooked meal
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that's working to your advantage
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absolutely man and just knowing I got
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too many people that really depend on me
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for real like I'm such an unselfish
8:27
person I really like make decisions and
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I don't make decisions based off of how
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I know it's going to affect the people
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that's really in my corner for real like
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how it's going to affect my kids my
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girls has gonna really affect them the
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people who aren't really getting money I
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know it's like at the end of the day
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okay money is not for me and they tell
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you money never really been everything
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for me you know so it really doesn't
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mean nothing to me I never really cared
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but at the end of the day I know like
8:52
what I'm doing now is different it's
8:54
legendary so I could never really like
8:56
take from that by you know making rash
8:58
decisions or working off emotion and you
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know as men especially black men we do
9:02
that so we do that you sit all over the
9:05
Internet yeah I'm glad you mentioned
9:07
that Jay
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um because even on sway mentioned in the
9:10
song flashbacks it makes me think this
9:11
is a simple line but it just brought my
9:13
mind someplace else different The Joint
9:15
you have a future just when you
9:17
mentioned I'm never gonna be broke again
9:19
you know and that version of yourself
9:21
that you don't want to revisit and
9:23
having you say money isn't everything
9:24
and all the different people in your
9:27
world that contribute to your decision
9:29
making would you mind sharing like some
9:32
type of maybe a deal that was on the
9:34
table that could have been hella
9:35
profitable but it just felt like a
9:37
clashed with your integrity and he was
9:39
like nah I ain't gonna take it I could
9:41
definitely I could name a few two of
9:43
those instances you know I'm saying like
9:44
my first deal that I was supposed to say
9:46
I was for a million dollars you feel me
9:48
and I'm like I was 17 16. I ain't had
9:50
nothing like you feel me man I told Mick
9:53
like I don't wanna a million dollars
9:55
ain't enough for me right now you feel
9:56
I'm saying like I got so much like I I
9:58
always thought for everybody around me
10:01
so I know the first thing I want to do
10:02
is get my mama house I'm young I'm gonna
10:05
want to spend some money all of this I
10:06
always knew about taxes all of that
10:08
early on yeah even though I was really
10:11
careless with money I've been careless
10:12
with money I know I'm gonna spend some
10:13
money if you understand especially when
10:15
I was a kid you know and I just
10:16
understood that but I'm gonna talk about
10:18
like something more recent uh like two
10:21
years ago I had a deal on the table for
10:22
like a double figure double-digit deal
10:24
and I turned it down because I just felt
10:27
like what I was trying to complete with
10:29
myself and my vision and my partners
10:30
everybody around me we needed the most
10:33
flexibility for us to be able to make
10:35
decisions and bet on ourselves because I
10:37
know in this industry you gotta really
10:38
like the partners that you partner with
10:41
as far as labels and people who gonna
10:42
really believe and invest in you you got
10:44
to believe in yourself a hundred times
10:46
more than they could ever believe in you
10:48
know what I'm saying so with me knowing
10:50
that I knew like all money not really
10:52
good money we could get some money we
10:53
know how to spend it and know our
10:55
budgets and everything that we need to
10:56
do to make it you know what I'm saying
10:57
do what it's supposed to do but I feel
11:00
like everything got to be right like the
11:02
energy every if I make a decision like
11:04
that yeah everything I cannot like
11:06
second guess nothing about it you know
11:07
what I'm saying so it's like I don't
11:09
look at the money if I was looking at
11:10
the money I just do it like this many
11:12
million right now come on we going yeah
11:14
g herbal when you say uh by the way
11:17
888-742-3345 will you I didn't really
11:19
catch the number he said double sway
11:22
what does that mean it was an
11:23
eight-figure deal eight figure yeah
11:25
eight figures I'm looking at them it's
11:28
like the team is looking like yeah he
11:29
really did that [ __ ]
11:30
[Laughter]
11:33
so uh Hey so we talking 10 million or
11:37
more yeah
11:38
it just I don't know it just ain't make
11:40
sense man yeah 11 years ago he was
11:43
asking put me on stage
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[Applause]
11:48
11 years later 10 million don't feel
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right 11 years later yeah 11 years later
11:55
I'm a billionaire what's my new name
11:56
sway Billy talk H Billy H Billy you got
12:00
to speak
12:03
that's it okay wait Auntie
12:06
um I recall Jay-Z or 21 Savage talking
12:09
telling the story how Jay-Z told him
12:12
that it's three things that he
12:13
absolutely has to have and I think it
12:16
was a good doctor a good lawyer and what
12:19
was it Chef a good doctor good lawyer
12:21
and a good Chef yeah that made perfect
12:23
sense when I heard it so what what are
12:25
three important things for you to have
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um three important things for me to have
12:29
definitely uh a good lawyer I'm saying
12:33
um
12:33
and overall I need like I need a good
12:36
team around me okay I need good solid
12:39
people around me that really like I know
12:41
with these two at the end of the day
12:44
it's not about like music or nothing
12:46
they want to see me healthy they want to
12:48
see my kids helping people so they want
12:50
to see me mentally stable word come on
12:54
and help me you know I'm saying reach my
12:57
full potential and the third thing what
13:00
I need around me is just like I I want
13:03
to sound like cliche and just say my
13:04
kids but just the purest form of love
13:06
you know what I'm saying like Okay I'll
13:07
be really depressed sometimes I ain't
13:09
gonna lie you know and I'll be needing
13:10
like that like my kids uplift me you
13:13
know just just any the purest form of
13:15
love here like my mom sometimes I need
13:17
to be around my mama sometimes I need to
13:19
be around my kids sometimes I need to be
13:21
around my friends if I'm saying like I'd
13:23
be really needing to feel a little bit
13:25
like positive energy
13:35
like that too everything yeah I'm always
13:37
and I text way to tell send you messages
13:40
all the time I hit them I'm like yo I'm
13:42
thinking about him he on my heart and my
13:43
spirit let no I don't buy the room no
13:45
you check on me a lot I check on them
13:47
that's what's up man G herbo is here
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um
13:51
um I was watching you uh with a shout
13:54
out to a million dollars worth the game
13:55
yeah for sure
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what up family and on the clip I saw is
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um you were talking about you know how
14:07
once you got outside I used to have
14:09
somebody told me this expression uh when
14:11
I was younger right when I was in my 20s
14:13
and I thought I was the [ __ ] in the bay
14:15
and I'm like yo we got this on lock you
14:18
know and the dude was like man you would
14:19
think he was the king of a box I mean
14:21
you was you would think you the king of
14:23
the world till you step outside of your
14:24
box yeah and then you start seeing the
14:26
world for what it is no for real and you
14:28
spoke on seeing things in the world you
14:30
didn't even know that was there and look
14:32
what it's done for you
14:34
so if
14:36
that same type of principle of mindset
14:38
applied you think uh more so in Chicago
14:42
let's say Chicago or places like Chicago
14:44
to people who came from environments
14:46
like you and I may have come from how do
14:48
you think it would improve our climate
14:50
in our neighborhoods I definitely I
14:52
think it would improve it like
14:54
tremendously bro because you know early
14:57
on I when I when I started traveling my
14:59
first time ever get on the plane I was
15:01
like 17 years or 16 years old when I was
15:03
when I met y'all yeah that was my first
15:05
time ever getting on a plane but beyond
15:07
that I didn't want to like make it take
15:10
imma just get the smallest detail
15:11
yesterday we went to go eat right and I
15:13
think I'll order like caviar deviled
15:16
eggs uh Sushi he like I can't even
15:18
believe you eating like this now you
15:19
know what I'm saying he was a loss the
15:21
smallest thing you feel me like I just
15:23
I'm not afraid to try new things I've
15:25
never been afraid to step outside my box
15:27
and get uncomfortable just to like learn
15:30
how to be a better version of myself you
15:32
know what I'm saying and my homies was
15:34
the same way we really didn't know
15:35
nothing Beyond our block literally like
15:37
we didn't have everybody got aspirations
15:39
to get some money but we didn't know how
15:41
we had no leadership for real you know
15:43
what I'm saying like these other than my
15:45
father instilling like leadership in me
15:47
just to be a man but I'm talking about
15:49
to go conquer the world you know what
15:50
I'm saying like you're going for guys
15:52
like this I wouldn't even be here today
15:53
you know I'm saying and I'm grateful for
15:54
that you know so like when I when my
15:57
homie started to like travel with me and
15:59
going out of town they ain't like it for
16:01
real they ain't want they didn't eat
16:02
none of the food
16:04
just like it you know and then after a
16:07
while when they said we in different
16:08
shows and the love we getting in all
16:10
these states they want it different you
16:12
know what I'm saying like my homies
16:13
right now who I never thought of be
16:15
doing anything like on their way to
16:17
becoming like CEOs artists my brother
16:20
got artists now I'm saying like we just
16:22
all growing together
16:24
yeah that's amazing if we wasn't able to
16:27
get outside of you know what I'm saying
16:29
get away from say life in essence we
16:31
wouldn't have that me like me if I
16:32
wouldn't if I wasn't the one to really
16:34
just make the decision to say now I'm on
16:36
this and I was just having this
16:38
conversation with somebody recently I
16:39
don't even remember like
16:41
one of my hardest toughest decisions was
16:43
really like leaving the streets but in
16:45
order to do that I had to really like
16:47
say forget everybody I loved like it
16:49
wasn't no support when I left the
16:51
streets and wanted to really Chase my
16:52
dreams as a rapper like hmm I ain't had
16:54
no support it wasn't I was getting two
16:56
of my best friends like I felt like I
16:59
was doing something wrong by doing the
17:01
right thing yeah like and I just I I
17:05
took a leap of faith you know what I'm
17:07
saying I believed in myself I believed
17:08
in God and I just said I'm finna do this
17:10
I don't care who what who got a problem
17:12
with what I'm doing or how I'm doing it
17:14
you know what I'm saying and it took me
17:15
a year of just being to myself over a
17:18
year you feel me and then that made my
17:20
homies and them open their eyes and
17:21
realized like no he doing the right
17:23
thing because wow we wasn't doing
17:24
nothing but chasing jail and death just
17:26
being staying in that environment
17:27
because there's no opportunity there so
17:28
so that's why it's important for me to
17:30
bring the opportunity back now so what
17:32
was their opposing argument
17:33
man you leaving us in this you leaving
17:35
us out here okay abandonment you're
17:38
leaving us uh we we still in the streets
17:40
we got all this going on you feel I'm
17:42
saying we we really fighting jail and
17:45
death because that's all that's around
17:47
us if I'm saying like I started really
17:48
losing my best friends when I was in
17:50
eighth grade you know what I'm saying
17:51
like just standing outside you don't
17:52
really like I want people to understand
17:54
in the streets you don't have to be a
17:56
street dude you don't have to be into
17:57
nothing
17:58
can you repeat that you don't you don't
18:01
have to be a street dude you don't have
18:02
to be in the mix if I'm saying like and
18:05
that's that's that's really the cool
18:07
thing to do that's being the leader
18:08
you're gonna always stand out by being a
18:10
leader you feel I'm saying it might not
18:11
pay off in the beginning but when it's
18:13
all said and done being the leader is
18:14
what you want to be and I'm saying that
18:16
to say like it's people who lost their
18:18
life for a block that they just lived on
18:21
yeah ain't even gangbang yeah you feel
18:23
me so that's what I need people to know
18:24
like the reality of what we was really
18:26
going through so when I was away and I
18:28
ain't had no money for real but I was
18:30
still artists you feel me like I had
18:32
some recognition like I was making a
18:33
little money but people felt like I was
18:36
leaving them but when they saw the
18:37
vision they got on exactly what I was on
18:39
so you know just taking all that
18:41
leadership role was important it was
18:43
detrimental to everything I'm doing
18:44
right now imagine had you not made that
18:46
decision I would have been I don't know
18:48
what I'd be doing man exactly right what
18:52
do you think has been the best business
18:55
decision you've made to this point uh
18:57
staying independent staying independent
18:59
staying independent and just you know
19:00
betting on ourself that was that's
19:02
definitely one of the you know best
19:04
decisions because we always been able to
19:06
prove ourselves time and time again if
19:08
I'm saying that's how I like to work I
19:10
like being under pressure why I have to
19:11
prove myself and there's nothing wrong
19:13
with having to prove yourself there's
19:15
nothing wrong with uh agreeing to
19:17
disagree if I'm saying like a lot of
19:18
people especially as artists and what we
19:20
dealing with uh other labels or you know
19:23
what I'm saying like even big bro never
19:25
making big decisions or business
19:26
decisions it's okay to not agree like we
19:30
just beating down ideas until we come up
19:32
with the very best possible outcome for
19:34
us you know what I'm saying so the best
19:36
decision that I made as an artist is
19:38
just betting on myself every time you
19:40
know because everybody's gonna believe
19:41
I'm a Believer
19:50
okay I'm gonna take these phone lines
19:52
man um
19:55
888-742-3345 before I do what's division
19:57
for the company the vision for the
19:59
company for 150 Dream Team machine I
20:02
want our company to be like you know
20:04
Chicago we don't have no major look like
20:07
major label you probably said like we
20:09
got to be cash money out of Chicago
20:11
whatever we're saying like and we need
20:13
everybody to just support and put
20:15
whatever resources in us to do that you
20:17
feel what I'm saying in the next 10
20:18
years we need to be the biggest if not
20:21
one of the biggest independent labels
20:23
like in in the music but we building our
20:25
bosses we showing people how to build
20:26
generational wealth and just keep it
20:28
going it ain't got nothing to do with
20:29
music we just trying to build
20:30
generational wealth in the hood you feel
20:33
I'm saying like and ain't nobody never
20:34
did that I love this man G herbal man
20:37
he's our new hero and leader you're our
20:39
leader now
20:41
give me my instructions
20:45
I got an ass on the line from Jersey ass
20:47
what up what up stand up Ash
20:51
morning hey hey what's going on what's
20:54
up how are you guys oh my gosh I have so
20:57
much to say such little time
20:59
um first of all jerbo hello I am such a
21:02
big fan my friends tonight
21:06
Bam Bam you waited all this time in your
21:10
phone line I know Lucy is that good okay
21:13
go ahead go ahead okay
21:15
um okay so I don't know if you remember
21:17
but my brother actually two years ago
21:19
we're all like really big fans of you
21:21
out here in South Jersey
21:23
um but uh he airbrushed you custom
21:25
airbrush uh pants for your song PTSD
21:28
um those white pants oh yeah those pants
21:30
fire y'all what I was in the interview I
21:32
remember those pants yes yes my brother
21:34
airbrushed those for you
21:37
[Laughter]
21:49
awesome
21:50
um it's karma and Connecticut the
21:52
Connecticut Connecticut Post Mall it's
21:54
um on the second floor next to express
21:55
guys and um one other thing really
21:58
quickly I just want to say uh I'm really
22:01
sorry for your loss I know
22:03
um it was like a year ago but I um I
22:06
actually recently lost my best friend
22:07
you guys have the same birthday actually
22:09
oh that's crazy thank you yeah
22:13
um happy belated birthday thank you um
22:15
but uh it's it sucks and um it's crazy I
22:19
just wanted it's crazy that I have that
22:21
connection between my best friend and
22:23
one of my favorite rappers
22:24
thank you so much I appreciate you guys
22:27
and tell your brother we're gonna be
22:28
reaching out for some more of that drip
22:30
I just gave it I gave them your phone
22:33
number I gave them your phone number
22:34
okay so they go okay that's awesome
22:37
thank you yes that'd be great yeah
22:42
citizen okay let's go to Michigan Chris
22:44
what up what up Mitch yo
22:48
what's going on oh well beloved what's
22:51
going on how you feeling
22:53
on my way that was just calling off from
22:56
79 51 South
22:58
for me oh man
23:00
we got soul ties man yeah what's up you
23:04
know I'm back in the day though I'm 39
23:05
years old Carmichael Kyle Apple already
23:09
there 2-1 everybody you hear me
23:12
though Joe I got Carmichael on this
23:14
pinky ring right here man I ain't doing
23:16
nothing wow
23:20
that's that's my best friend Uncle he
23:23
passed away yeah legend in the hood yeah
23:30
that's beautiful yeah that's real but I
23:33
just want to let you know we still got
23:34
that house on 79th that's crazy
23:38
bro keep doing your thing man do what
23:41
you can about these days and [ __ ] out
23:43
you know what's going on that way sorry
23:45
percussion but you know what I'm saying
23:47
bro
23:48
all day we gotta put up on shows
23:50
whatever Joe all right okay Chris man
23:53
stay up man I appreciate you tuning in
23:55
your super citizens
24:00
Chris
24:02
it's all love salute
24:05
salute Chris
24:07
um you handle transition
24:11
fairly well you know it's hard when you
24:14
lose a sibling or a loved one or or a
24:16
friend I want to commend you because our
24:18
whole Community is dealing with trans I
24:21
call it transitions yeah now that's a
24:23
great way to put it in transition right
24:25
yeah and uh so I want to commend you for
24:27
that is that what is it the work helps
24:30
you yeah no definitely it's definitely
24:33
like just man music the purest form of
24:36
therapy for me like for real I ain't
24:37
gonna lie sometimes I just go to the
24:39
studio and go to sleep with Beats
24:41
playing when I wake up I want to rap
24:43
like every day damn stuff like that I
24:47
promise I just go lay in the studio
24:48
literally and play beats then I wake up
24:50
I feel better you know what I'm saying
24:52
I'm like I promised when when my little
24:56
brother got killed it was like the most
24:58
depressing I ever like I really fell
25:00
into like just alcoholism you know what
25:02
I'm saying like just drinking and
25:03
drinking drinking drinking and just
25:04
trying to feel better for the moment you
25:07
know I'm saying it uh like I think my
25:10
thoughts was just altered like I was
25:12
just a bad version of myself you know
25:14
what I'm saying like I wasn't really
25:15
nice to my girl or nothing you feel me I
25:17
was really just upset every day and I
25:19
had to get away like and she ain't
25:21
understanding sometimes I just used to
25:22
want to ride around in a car that's what
25:24
I'm saying and just like cry and get
25:25
that out you know but
25:27
um
25:28
I think I won't even say she ain't
25:30
understand it's just like I I'm so
25:33
always been so immune to like to death
25:35
and like you know I'm saying tragedy and
25:37
experience and Trauma and knowing me you
25:39
know what I'm saying and then it was
25:40
like that unknown me you feel me I felt
25:43
human again you know and it was like
25:45
real it all came out it all came out for
25:47
real and I'm just now really like
25:49
getting better you know what I'm saying
25:51
still to this day but it's like I know
25:53
at the end of the day with grief it
25:55
never really get better I'm just like
25:57
I'm transitioning I'm just knowing how
25:59
to really like function day to day and
26:01
that's survivors of orange for real that
26:03
survival some more he just gave us the
26:05
album right there wow I told you we
26:08
learned it from you see how I'm looking
26:09
at you I'm in class right now damn thank
26:12
you for sharing that because I love you
26:14
too your your song uh letter to juice
26:17
juice world yeah
26:19
uh that that uh note to that letter to
26:23
juice you know and I'm listening to you
26:26
speak and you're rhyming while you speak
26:28
but I'm feeling like this dude is coming
26:30
off the heart how did you write that or
26:32
you just went in the movies just was
26:34
talking like I just felt like I was
26:36
talking to him you know what I'm saying
26:37
I'm always like that though when I get
26:39
like by myself and in my thoughts I talk
26:41
to myself but I feel like I was do you
26:44
answer yourself yeah my head's for real
26:47
like I really be talking to myself I
26:49
always been like that since I was a kid
26:51
you know what I'm saying like I'm just a
26:52
super thinker like anytime no matter
26:54
even if I make a bad decision I've
26:57
literally thought about it if I'm saying
26:59
like I think about every decision that I
27:01
think you know I'm saying I'm not even
27:02
gonna lie I'm a real thinker you know a
27:03
strategic thinker and when I when I did
27:06
that song I just really wanted to like
27:08
get stuff off my chest because
27:10
with juice that was like something that
27:13
I I still haven't accepted you know what
27:14
I'm saying like being in denial about it
27:16
you know and I don't know I just feel
27:18
like in a way
27:20
like is with juice you just feel like
27:24
I feel like everybody we we failed or
27:27
let them down or something you know what
27:28
I'm saying yeah I really feel like my
27:30
little brother supposed to still be here
27:31
so that's why I feel like I just wanted
27:33
to talk to him and just I don't know I
27:35
believe in like the energy and spirit I
27:37
feel like he could hit me he can't hear
27:39
you you said that you said sometimes
27:40
what you say sometimes you get nervous
27:42
or you said something really ill and you
27:45
know that's probably yeah oh yeah like I
27:48
I feel like
27:49
well I get chills like I'm chilling like
27:52
I feel like it's him talking back to me
27:53
like when I say certain things you know
27:55
what I'm saying or just think about
27:56
certain stuff and I could be looking and
27:58
thinking about something I could see
28:00
like a bird fly past and I just feel
28:02
like that's a sad amen
28:04
it was funny too because you said man
28:07
you know he he wasn't the type of person
28:09
that tripped on the money or the you
28:11
know the uh the flashing about none of
28:13
that [ __ ] you were saying we're gonna
28:15
keep putting in their face
28:19
yeah he wouldn't celebrate that part of
28:21
it yeah no he went like with juice he
28:23
had spent all his money on probably
28:25
everything to just make everybody else
28:27
happy or to have fun you know what I'm
28:29
saying him being young juice was three
28:31
four years younger than me you know what
28:33
I'm saying yeah damn and he ain't spend
28:35
his money on none flashy like he ain't
28:37
gonna buy no crazy cars no jury he was
28:40
having real real real money so like for
28:42
real like he'll go buy dirt bikes and
28:44
old vintage games and like some [ __ ]
28:46
like that to just everybody to have fun
28:48
around
28:50
me I would have bought all types
28:54
and I think just with experiencing that
28:58
with him and I always been a humble dude
29:00
like not cocky but it's like I I really
29:03
feel like sometimes you gotta like
29:06
put it in their face a little bit just
29:07
to make them respect it you know what
29:09
I'm saying yeah you gotta respect it
29:10
like it ain't about me trying to like
29:12
downplay nobody or just feel like I got
29:14
this and you don't but no you got to
29:16
respect it because I really did
29:17
everything uncomfortable for this I
29:19
worked for this hard you know what I'm
29:20
saying like and that's what I was trying
29:22
to say I love it man G herbo man this is
29:25
our brother right here uh survivors
29:27
remorse I want to thank you man yes
29:30
thank you for coming home yeah for sure
29:31
yeah home for real thank you for coming
29:33
on yes man you got your chili
29:38
come home man say you got a question
29:43
and we got Nigel Sylvester the BMX
29:46
Legend I'm gonna bring him in there you
29:48
ever meet Nigel Sylvester you're
29:50
familiar with it I know exactly what it
29:51
is I'm gonna bring him in here so y'all
29:53
can meet that's gonna be a moment this
29:55
is how the bees nephew yeah yeah I just
29:58
had one question bro so like for me I'm
30:01
not I don't like you gotta take your gum
30:02
out your mouth for me please thank you I
30:04
don't really like to you know say I'm a
30:06
fan of nobody for real but like like I
30:07
told you earlier I've been watching with
30:09
you for a minute
30:10
um Listen to album and flashbacks like
30:12
that was the only song That Wasn't you
30:13
know had no cursive and I was like why
30:15
was that uh we ain't had no cursing
30:17
because it was really just um you know
30:19
it was it took me a little while to
30:20
reach out to yay to be honest but like
30:22
shout out to Y8 you feel I'm saying I
30:24
hit him he reached back out he caught on
30:26
FaceTime you good you know what I'm
30:27
saying like everything with the explicit
30:30
version with the sample and everything
30:31
so shout out yeah it was really just bad
30:33
timing and trying to the song was so
30:36
special I didn't want to not have it on
30:37
the album just because we ain't had no
30:39
cursing words you know what I'm saying
30:40
like I feel like the message of what I
30:42
was trying to get across was still going
30:44
you know saying like deliver without the
30:45
curse words but we about to flip it have
30:47
supposed to be in like a day or two
30:59
no no no
31:02
yeah
31:03
he ready to be out and open his own
31:06
business that's all he's thinking about
31:07
right yeah he's like yo about the LLC
31:11
I'm ready to go I'm ready to go yeah you
31:14
might need an ambassador here you know
31:16
right that's what we shouting out don't
31:17
even trip I ain't going nowhere we gonna
31:18
shout the LLC out when we get it popping
31:20
man okay that's what's up okay Zay don't
31:23
forget me when you get your chain no
31:27
brother I want to thank you for coming
31:29
by today man where you headed next
31:31
what's next uh right now I'm still like
31:33
I'm I'm in Grandma I'm gonna stop
31:36
working for real like even since before
31:37
the album drop I'm about to go shoot a
31:40
video again today I got a show tomorrow
31:42
I gotta go pick your sign up while I'm
31:44
working I gotta have him with me while
31:46
I'm working you feel me because he's not
31:48
going for it at gunpoint where you at
31:50
come pick me up right now
31:52
you don't even play you know but I'm
31:55
just I gotta work shoot this video
31:57
um I say the best for last I ain't
31:59
really doing no no other platforms right
32:01
now man thank you but you've been doing
32:04
excellent I want a surprise I want to uh
32:08
introduce you to a BMX Legend right here
32:10
citizens please welcome the one and only
32:13
Nigel Sylvester hey bro
32:17
hey
32:18
I I knew you would appreciate that right
32:21
yeah
32:27
all right and uh [ __ ] hang out man
32:31
you you two are very unique Nigel
32:34
welcome to the show brother
32:36
finally finally it's been it's been a
32:39
minute but I'm here I made it we've been
32:41
trying to make this happen for a second
32:43
I've been like a big groupie fan of his
32:45
you know I used to have a little red
32:48
line frame bike I used to have you know
32:50
back in the day yeah I had a little
32:52
black Mongoose
33:16
y'all didn't do that we would go to the
33:18
to the automotive place
33:21
just like like go steel like spray
33:23
painting
33:25
Chicago
33:27
Queens right from Queens oh yeah they
33:30
were just stealing bikes
33:32
you can't label us like that man please
33:35
get the money all right but not but not
33:37
but like not stealing bikes though you
33:38
never stole a bike nah all we was doing
33:41
was doing
33:43
what time I went to my auntie house I
33:45
promised my cousin had a collateral
33:47
bikes all down the driveway like 20
33:49
bikes there's only four of them they've
33:51
been outside
33:53
all week they've been outside taking
33:55
bikes that's what we used to do for real
33:56
we these kids but we just having fun
33:58
trying to like you know like we used to
34:00
my only time like going downtown and
34:02
stuff before like my mom ever took me
34:04
was riding bikes we used to just ride
34:06
our bikes all the way from the East side
34:07
down Lake Shore to like downtown we was
34:09
kids you feel me like that was the most
34:11
fun we used to have when we was little I
34:13
was a way to get around was bike riding
34:15
bike riding right I'm still doing it
34:19
mama just told me a funny story I never
34:22
heard this story before my mama like I'm
34:24
real clumsy I get it from my mom
34:26
everybody know I'm clumsy so my mama
34:28
riding that same route just before I was
34:30
born she said she's like 22 years old or
34:32
something like that she said she riding
34:34
that same route that I'm saying I used
34:35
to ride to go downtown and she was on a
34:37
bike and I don't know she said she
34:38
couldn't turn it right or something I
34:40
don't know she tried to stop it and she
34:41
did like this and broke her whole wrist
34:43
on the bike like oh wow that was the
34:46
worst it was I ain't gonna lie it's not
34:47
funny how I'm explaining it but it was
34:50
funny when she told it to me I find that
34:54
interesting Nigel because your journey
34:57
and and uh and I'm a I just wanted to
34:59
make this moment happen by the way
35:02
I know you dudes respect each other but
35:05
hearing your stories in Chicago I grew
35:08
up in Oakland you know
35:10
um in the black community all of us rode
35:13
bikes yeah right but in your profession
35:16
right it's hardly any
35:18
[Laughter]
35:23
like you said right like growing up in
35:26
the hood riding bikes is right of
35:27
passage but I feel like a certain point
35:29
you just stop riding you get cars
35:31
driving license different things yeah
35:34
for me it was like I'm Gonna Keep riding
35:36
and turn this into a career and that's
35:37
how it happened that's fire bro I
35:39
definitely salute you for that because
35:41
especially like in the hood you know and
35:43
I'm I know you got a contest it it's
35:44
always the one that know how to do all
35:46
the tricks
35:48
hey go ahead will get up the block we
35:51
used to call it ghosting like I had a
35:52
homie that used to know how to like goes
35:54
in like Willie without no hands all the
35:56
way up the block you feel me like that
35:58
was the thing man that's rare that's
35:59
super rare in the hood did he ever they
36:02
ever used to jump on the handlebars and
36:04
jump I had a lot of homies that knew how
36:06
to do all that only thing I knew how to
36:07
do was like a little Willy and flip it
36:09
like that yeah
36:12
but you know uh yo gr but I want to
36:15
thank you again thank you uh stay great
36:18
stay on this path your vision is working
36:22
right look at you now you're a God look
36:25
at you now
36:30
look how many people you influencing
36:33
look how many millionaires you making
36:35
soon to be billionaires look how many
36:38
kids you don't even know that's inspired
36:40
by you that come from where you come
36:41
from
36:42
that's [ __ ] amazing
36:45
it was at South by Southwest trying to
36:47
get on the stage
36:48
[Music]
36:54
hey that yeah we went to southbound
36:56
Southwest we was like 30 deep too high
37:02
these Chicago dudes man you know but
37:05
thank you brother give it up for G herbo
37:07
man come on man get that survivors
37:09
remorse
37:10
the legendary Nigel Sylvester is here
37:13
come on what I want to play what I want
37:16
to play surprise me Blues you want to go
37:18
with blues or lettuce
37:20
let's do it let's do it shave for a five
37:25
[Music]
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