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ladies and gentlemen
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that man is prophetic
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you got to watch the blueprints
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sometimes people say sway how do you
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make it into business i tell them the
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blueprint is right in front of you
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you got to dig deep though
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i wanted to be an anthropologist at one
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time in my life you got to dig deep
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you got to go beneath the surface
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to understand
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you got to go beneath the surface and in
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order to do that you got to talk to
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people who have been there
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and continue to stay here and continue
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to be vibrant and continue to be
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engaging and be fresh
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people will continue to be on the post
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and to be active and to be proactive and
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continue to evolve
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it becomes more than just a verse you
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wrote
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20 or 35 years ago because more than
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that it becomes what that verse you
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wrote did to other people how did it
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impact them how did it motivate them how
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did it inspire them then we get older
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and learn that it's not just about the
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music i want to bring you in my house
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i want to show you how to cut a
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pineapple with a machete because that's
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part of my heritage i'm gonna show you
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how i mix on my blender because you're
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wondering how can i be this stage in my
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life and i look younger than your kids
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i'm gonna show you that on my instagram
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i'ma talk to you about my everyday
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philosophy so you could be like me
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and when you get to be my age
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you too will be able to take off your
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shirt and be top naked on instagram like
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the legendary icon we have
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on the line with us right now give it up
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for dog
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[Applause]
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or um
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or or or say thank or drop to the knees
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and just be like
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that's the creator all over again so i'm
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gonna do all three i'm gonna do all
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three
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you know
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i man it's so beautiful to hear you
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brother and it's so nice to be with
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y'all again yes in a minute
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it's been a minute doug it's been a
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minute it's been a minute it's been a
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minute how how y'all been man and how
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your family let's stop that okay let's
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go with tracy g first go for it tracy
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hey dougie so happy to hear your voice
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first off
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you too you too thank you for asking too
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um my family is doing well we had
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some scares around kova that were very
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close
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to home
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but we've been blessed with more life
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everyone is okay
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parents are moving over to florida so
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that's a transition
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sister is in cleveland
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she's servicing her community she's a
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doctor out there so i really have
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nothing to complain about i have only
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things to praise about so thank you okay
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ain't that something doug that means her
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sister if you ever get sick we could get
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you know we can get you a discount
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i got you i got some i got i got hey
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look we down here we down here with
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where the sun keeps shining you know so
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it's a beautiful thing to be down in
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florida right now absolutely you know
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all right what about you brother oh i'm
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good um
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the family is well you know i got the
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107 year old grandmother the 96 year old
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grandmother already i thank god daily
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you know
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you know
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i'ma just focus on that
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you know in terms of everything else i
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figured those parts out
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you know what i mean
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i can figure the rest out
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hey bro hey
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look you said 107.
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yeah
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wow 107.
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miss brown 107. don't play doug she
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reads with no glasses memorized
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scripture takes care of herself
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oh man my jeans are ridiculous dougie
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fresh my jeans ain't my yo come on
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i see i see brother i see i see hey look
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we gonna be we're gonna be having this
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conversation at a hundred and seven
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god willing come on let's go it's
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possible hb let them know how you doing
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yo dougie what's up it's heather how you
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doing family
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it's crazy like you asked this and thank
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you for asking about us really do we get
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asked this question so thank you for
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asking and for me just to be a hunter
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it's been up and down ironically
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i lost a lot of people in my family a
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lot of young people in my family during
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this time we kind of been sat down but
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much like sway my grandparents um have
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have survived and sustained my
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grandmother is 91 my grandfather is a
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hundred and one horse my husband dropped
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some food off by them another day opened
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the door my grandfather was standing in
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the kitchen making grits so i was like
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you know what
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somehow
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some way you know we've lost 40 year
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olds and 30 year olds in my family but
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the 101 year old and a 91 year old is
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still surviving so i think what an
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ironic way that god somehow shows us
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balance and and our faith and our work
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these these different things so i've
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been learning the balance game doug and
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just just trying to you know move
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forward and be there for those that in
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need and those who have you know made
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the transition supporting the family and
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and still standing on my own ground so
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thank you for asking
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oh man that's beautiful and i'm sorry to
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hear about your family you know
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um thank you it's been it's been a real
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tough time for all of you know
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it's been one of them times where you
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know you're just trying to figure out
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you know what's going on exactly you
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know
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i mean it's really really a tough time
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like i'm saying
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very
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very very crazy one of those uh
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are you serious right now kind of times
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yeah i mean
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yeah but but uh
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but at the same time you know there's a
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lot of good so when you're talking about
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your grandma you know the grandparents
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and stuff
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uh you know you can't there's no words
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to to to say you know that's back to
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that history again you have somebody
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around like that that you can just have
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conversations i talk to some of the
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elders around me and some of the
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conversations we have
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are just unbelievable some of the things
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they share with me it's just like like
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i'm watching a movie i never watch tv
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because i'm talking to them you know
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i'm like i'm getting it real
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real like a damn they're like it's 3d
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you know so um
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these are some interesting times i don't
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think i i ever thought that we would be
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in a time like this this is just a very
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very like eye-opening life-changing
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things will never be the same time you
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know what i mean yeah yeah
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oh man is it like like from us being in
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harlem
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sway going to the to the to the
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restaurant or going to the fish spot
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you know what i mean or whatever or
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rolling
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to now
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you know you gotta have a mask on or you
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know or or people who you know the
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people the younger people the older
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people everybody just
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you know uh you know everybody's afraid
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you know it's like we it's like a
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fearful thing but
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there's still light at the end of the
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tunnel when i hear stuff like 107 yeah i
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mean you know
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i mean look you can't you can't make
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that one up you know what i mean can't
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make it up dougie you know um
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things have changed man uh things have
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changed
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but we are here
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right right and that and that's what's
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amazing and when you talk about the you
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know some of these
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dougie's like man this is my brother man
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i can't even you know we we got to sit
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down in person one time
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you know it's hard to do it right here
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on this phone call we gonna do because
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we will talk about what you called in to
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talk about but you know
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i'm just i want to say i'm proud of you
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man i don't know if anyone ever says
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this to you
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i'm proud appreciate it man no
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absolutely thank you man
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absolutely i'm proud of you
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i i've watched you i remember us having
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conversations about social media
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yeah in the van
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right i remember i remember and you like
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yo
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tell me this how well how does that work
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how does this work yeah doug man all you
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got
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oh you got it i brought this up before
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all you got to do doug is just be
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personal be dougie fresh show them who
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you really are that's what that's what's
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going to engage people dougie took it to
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another level heather i didn't
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there's a lot of reasons for this now
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you know one of it wanted to
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like this there's some there's some
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there's some vanity but there's some
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there's some sanity in it as well
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right the sanity part is that
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and this is 100
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you know black people as a whole
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uh have kind of like on the vitamin d
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level
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you know uh i don't know if anybody gets
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checked out but the numbers
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are
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staggering yeah they're so low
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and one of the things that that's
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attached
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to the breakdown of the immune system
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is your vitamin d
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so we never really
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thought about it and you know when black
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people they got melanin so they walk and
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they feel like everything is cool but
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knobby you got to take this shirt off
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you got to let the sun work what i've
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been saying
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i mean
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believe me
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but i'm telling the truth
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you could take the supplements and the
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supplements can help you but the pure
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vitamin d
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comes from the sun the same way you see
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the trees
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green and you see you know the different
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animal the different things flying
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around and the little bugs on the ground
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the vitamin d energizes them we got away
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from it we stay most of the time inside
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and in new york we really stay inside we
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just go from building to building train
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to car car to bus and uber to this into
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that and what happened is that we we
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kind of detached from nature
10:56
so when a situation like covet hit
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by besides having underlying issues like
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diabetes high blood pressure asthma
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obesity all these different things and
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your immune system is so low man you're
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in a situation
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where it's going to be difficult for you
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to make it when you get hit with this
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unknown
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uh
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virus
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which i consider it to be a part of a
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you know they call it a pandemic but we
11:30
we consider it a plan endemic
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you know and and and it's kind of like
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you know you put yourself in these
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vulnerable states so what i do
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from the natural side because i go out
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every day
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and i take it off take your shirt off
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and look and honestly it doesn't matter
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even if you're in your backyard even if
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you're on the roof no matter where you
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are you know if you can get you
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at least 10-15 minutes
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of the sun
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shining on you not just your head see
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because that's what people get mixed up
12:04
too they thinking if the sun shines on
12:06
your face or your arms
12:08
you're getting it but what happened to
12:10
the other part of the body like the sun
12:12
the rays gotta gotta gotta hit it and
12:16
those that don't believe me
12:18
look it up so that you see that i'm
12:20
telling you the truth
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wow
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yo that was the best explanation
12:28
i thought i was talking and i like and i
12:30
like taking my shirt off too yeah okay
12:33
there we go
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[Applause]
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you keep your shorts on though right uh
12:41
come on you keep the shorts on yeah yeah
12:44
yeah i think i got to do that that's
12:46
important okay
12:48
yeah you know you know only only only
12:50
when i'm in the house you know you may
12:52
want to well i keep them on in there too
12:54
but anyway though
12:56
we got dougie fresh burn the meat baby
12:59
the world's greatest like doug doug you
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you've done you've been very masterful
13:03
in how you've curated your career and
13:05
just stayed on the post and
13:08
just you know
13:10
your name is in
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contemporary conversation dougie fresh
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is a factor people you probably if it
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wasn't for cove it would probably work
13:19
250 days out of the year you know you
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really you've really taken this thing at
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the time and
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when the first album came out in 86 we
13:28
didn't know what this culture was going
13:30
to become we didn't have a blueprint to
13:32
follow it wasn't nobody there wasn't a
13:34
dougie fresh before there was a dougie
13:35
fresh you know what what have you found
13:38
has been the key for you throughout the
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decades
13:42
to stay on the post is it had does it
13:44
have anything to do with entertainment
13:45
and music or is it something
13:47
outside of that what would you what are
13:49
some of the things you will credit to
13:51
for your longevity
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well um
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first of all thanks a lot
13:57
you know for for the acknowledgement but
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you know one of the things that
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that i think you know which is something
14:05
you do as well
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you know there's a saying that i live by
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and i tell my sons this
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and i've been telling my friends this
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all the time you know i always say that
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the main thing is to make sure that the
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main thing remains the main thing
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now
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for some people it may be kind of you
14:26
know like you're hearing it you know we
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rhyme and you know mc thing and all of
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that but it's a lot deeper than just
14:32
that you know what i'm saying the main
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thing is to make sure that the main
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thing remains the main thing i've seen
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multiple generations you know from 81 to
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harlem world all the way up to 2021
14:46
right now as we speak with a new project
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one of the things that i see
14:52
that has been the winning formula for me
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on the level that i i appreciate
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is
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the consistency of not allowing things
15:05
to throw me off and make me
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uh forget why i'm doing this
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how much i love doing it
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uh this is not just about me making a
15:16
living from doing it
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i was doing it when there was no limit
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where there was no living to be made
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from it
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so
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so there was a passion
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and then i learned from that that
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passion makes money money never made
15:31
passion you see so i stay on the road
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and there's a lot of things that'll come
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at you you know the drugs can come at
15:40
you
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the the uh alcohol can come at you the
15:45
the extreme relationships with different
15:48
women and people in your life that can
15:51
come at you there could be bills and
15:54
bad lawyers and bad managers which i
15:57
call damages you know uh there can be
16:01
bad labels there can be we can make many
16:04
excuses on why we why we're gonna stop
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but
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just like this thing that we're going
16:10
through now as a people as as a world we
16:14
can't stop living you got to keep
16:16
pushing forward you have to make certain
16:18
adjustments but you keep moving forward
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so that's why i always say that the main
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thing is to make sure that the main
16:26
thing remains the main thing and that's
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what i've been doing you know from 81
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and then and then the last part is
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i've had examples around me
16:36
of the greats and some of the mistakes
16:39
that they made
16:41
that made me
16:43
say okay i'ma write that down in my book
16:45
to make sure i don't do that i'm gonna
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make sure i don't do this oh i'mma do
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that like to this day i still practice
16:54
you see what i'm saying wow most rappers
16:57
most guys
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don't practice no more they don't
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practice
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some of the things that they do now i
17:03
have a whole
17:04
i have a whole arsenal of multiple
17:07
things i have to practice
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but i still practice
17:11
every
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day
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you know and and specific pieces and
17:15
techniques and things and i'm always
17:18
trying to tighten it up and better it so
17:20
that
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so that i'm excited about it you know
17:24
sometimes when you think you've reached
17:25
the mountain top there's no place else
17:27
to go there's always something new to
17:29
learn about this game i'm sure when
17:31
y'all even though y'all show is great
17:34
everybody give you a lot of
17:35
acknowledgement you've been doing this a
17:36
long time sway i know sometimes there's
17:38
some twists and turns that come in here
17:41
that make you go wow you know what i
17:43
mean even though you've been doing it a
17:44
long time you know i love those moments
17:49
yeah
17:49
doesn't make you know you don't know you
17:51
get excited again like oh wow oh i
17:54
didn't know that
17:55
absolutely i looked doug can you give us
17:57
a sample of how you practice real quick
17:59
yes please live on air
18:02
well well let me say let me tell you
18:04
like so
18:05
sometimes the way that i practice is uh
18:08
you know like say i may exercise right
18:11
and say if i'm exercising uh and i'm
18:14
running you know i may run and when i'm
18:16
running
18:17
i run probably around five six miles or
18:20
if i'm walking i may walk and i walk
18:24
i'll say maybe six to ten miles
18:26
something like that right and when i'm
18:27
walking i may do stuff like uh so if i'm
18:31
if i'm running i'll go
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and i'll hold that beat
18:43
for probably like maybe 60 minutes damn
18:47
you see what i'm saying and when i hold
18:49
it for like 60 minutes
18:51
my my record is maybe 70. but i hold it
18:54
for like 60 minutes of that same
18:57
continuous beat going on and breathing
18:59
right so if i get on stage
19:02
or if i'm performing my win
19:05
is at a level that's beyond most
19:08
people's level right so that's one thing
19:10
that i would practice or not then i'll
19:12
take the harmonica
19:14
which i may oh i don't have it right
19:16
here but i think harmonica and i
19:18
practice
19:19
you know playing harmonica with the
19:21
beatbox and when i'm practicing it i'm
19:24
practicing the notes and making sure
19:27
that i remember how to move because i
19:29
played a harmonica backwards you know
19:31
like uh one time i was gonna get lessons
19:35
and i had this professional harmonica
19:37
player come in here to try to show me
19:38
how to play
19:39
and when he said let me see what you do
19:41
i started doing what i do and he stopped
19:44
he said he said i can't teach you
19:47
i said why he said because i never see
19:49
nobody do what you do
19:51
and you're playing it backwards he said
19:53
and it's really he said only thing i
19:55
could tell you is you're gonna have to
19:57
develop that on your own because i've
19:58
never seen nobody do the beat box play
20:01
the harmonica and it's backwards
20:03
so uh so so i practice that
20:07
because it's something that is different
20:09
you know then
20:11
i practice you know like rhythms like
20:14
rhyming because you know how a singer
20:17
may have a perfect pitch i have perfect
20:19
rhythm
20:20
meaning like
20:22
you can't throw me off beat you see what
20:25
i'm saying and it's because i guess you
20:27
know because of the beat box and all
20:29
this stuff so anywhere like and and
20:31
heather noticed like if you rhyming on
20:32
the beat and say the dj mess up and you
20:34
know it's too sweet like and the dj
20:36
might and the wreck it may skip remember
20:38
back in the day oh yeah
20:41
right
20:42
right i used to practice messing up
20:46
so we practiced me barry and will i used
20:48
to make them make the wreckage skip to
20:51
the point that we would practice this
20:53
thing for like hours
20:55
and so anytime the record would skip
20:58
there's no possible way that it can
21:01
throw me off i used to watch guys do
21:04
their shows and when the record skip
21:07
they would be like yo man yo bring that
21:09
down yo dj man what's up man what's up
21:12
man yeah
21:14
what i'm saying
21:20
a bottle at cap rest in power dj cap i
21:23
think it was at a cameo yeah yeah
21:25
because the record i remember that yeah
21:27
i was there i felt it it was warping
21:30
well the record was they were out in the
21:31
sun that's what it was the record was
21:33
warping yeah i was there doug i
21:35
introduced them to the stage and it
21:37
wasn't it wasn't cap's fault but i don't
21:39
think big new
21:41
at that time so yeah right and see and
21:44
see and you saying real talk sway this
21:46
is a really pop conversation now come on
21:49
cuz
21:50
yo look because
21:52
see
21:53
i used to train big and puff
21:56
right yeah and but this is one of the
21:58
lessons
22:00
that we never got to go through because
22:02
if he knew this technique
22:05
he probably wouldn't have lost his mind
22:07
over that you know
22:09
god bless him and family but that's what
22:11
i mean so there's multiple levels and
22:14
you know and then you got to practice
22:16
dancing because you know i mean the
22:19
dougie came it that's just that was just
22:22
harlem
22:23
you know we dancing at rooftop or up in
22:27
the park and you add different
22:29
dimensions to it so you got to practice
22:31
that then i got to practice crowd
22:34
participation because crowd
22:36
participation the way that i do it is
22:38
completely different than the way some
22:41
people do it because i learned
22:43
from the architect of crowd
22:45
participation which is dj hollywood and
22:49
i learned from love bugs and i learned
22:51
from fizzy beats you see what i'm saying
22:54
so
22:55
that's a whole nother piece that you got
22:57
to learn you know and i mean and i could
23:00
go on but it's like so you see what i'm
23:02
saying so i break i break things down
23:05
into
23:06
into into divisions like like you know
23:09
you rhyming you got to practice rhyming
23:12
sometimes when a person don't rhyme and
23:14
they rhyme or and they used to rhyme all
23:16
the time you get winded
23:18
ramen on stage is completely different
23:21
than rhyming
23:23
you know sitting down and just rapping
23:26
like you know you're sitting on on a
23:27
chair no and then if you're going to the
23:30
studio you know when you're rhyming in
23:32
the studio i remember one day i was in
23:34
the studio with big punt and he was
23:36
rhyming and this is when me and him you
23:38
know when i tried to tell him about his
23:40
health and i was trying to help him
23:42
because you know i love big pun and he
23:44
was in there he would go
23:48
punch me in right there now punch me in
23:50
means you stop and then you know for
23:52
those that may be listening you you stop
23:55
recording there and then you pick it up
23:57
from there and finish the rhyme and they
23:59
and they record you from that point so
24:02
he would be so winded when he was
24:05
rhyming that we would he would stop and
24:08
then say okay pick it up from there okay
24:10
now do it again now and it would be
24:12
every
24:13
two bars or something so
24:16
if you don't know how to control your
24:19
breathing
24:20
it's very difficult to run
24:22
you know what i mean
24:23
wow and let me say this citizens tuned
24:25
in right now
24:27
what you're getting is the realist
24:29
hip-hop conversation in existence
24:32
right now
24:33
yeah yeah this is real this this can't
24:35
be duplicated it it won't be the same
24:39
and there's no one on the planet that
24:40
can say these things that dougie fresh
24:42
is saying to you today and i i only want
24:45
to get in the way of it i just want
24:46
people to understand what you're
24:47
witnessing as you tune into this right
24:50
now don't take it for granted dougie is
24:52
actually here because dougie has a new
24:55
project he has a new album dougie fresh
24:57
in 2021
24:59
has a new album
25:01
and it's called this one's for chuck
25:03
brown dougie fresh salutes the godfather
25:06
a go-go
25:09
rich nice is on the line hey
25:11
you know you know i had to come
25:13
[Music]
25:20
look look man now now the circle is
25:22
complete now the circle is complete
25:25
word i'm gonna ask
25:39
you know get heather to cook or
25:40
something and just hit this road again
25:43
you keep just assigning me to more work
25:46
i'm just saying he said
25:48
hey
25:49
i'll cook with you you know we could get
25:51
down together you know there you go
25:53
that's it we could beat each other
26:01
this is so amazing
26:03
this this this i could say record this
26:05
record that you got doug is so amazing
26:09
it makes me start thinking about the
26:11
days in legends nightclub in dc
26:14
and you know the junkyard bands the rare
26:17
essence the trouble funks the experience
26:19
unlimited the backyard brand the
26:22
northeast groovers and they all got it
26:26
from mr chuck brown facts exactly
26:30
exactly and that and and and yo hey look
26:34
you can't even i can't even say it no
26:36
better bro cause i'ma tell you
26:38
bro
26:40
i did not even know that i was going to
26:42
write this i tell you no lie i was
26:46
sleeping
26:47
sway something woke me up and say yo
26:51
write a song about chuck brown
26:54
and i said why you know like in my mind
26:56
and then you know and a lot of times you
26:59
know with me i just kind of
27:01
go with the energy because i know the
27:03
energy never let me down before you know
27:06
and i'm not you know i'm not you know
27:08
i'm not high there's nothing going on
27:10
with me so when something says do it i
27:12
started writing it and when i started
27:14
writing it i started to recap
27:17
all of the experiences that i had with
27:19
him
27:20
and when i started to do that everything
27:23
just started to come together and then
27:25
it's so bizarre to me because i was
27:28
going to do a live album because before
27:30
prince transition he was going to
27:32
produce the live album for me
27:34
so when he was going to do the live
27:36
album we both loved gogo music and we
27:40
both loved chuck brown because i was
27:42
torn with him from 99 until he
27:44
transitioned and so he wanted me to do a
27:48
live album so when this happened i said
27:52
wow
27:53
let me make this that live album let me
27:56
make this that project to where people
27:58
could get a live experience because if
28:00
you've never been to a go-go event you
28:02
don't really understand the depth of
28:05
what you're listening to
28:06
gogo is not just
28:08
a sound it's an interactive
28:12
spiritual experience it is like when you
28:16
come in there you will not leave the
28:18
same
28:19
when you hear
28:20
all of the percussions when you hear the
28:23
drums when you hear
28:25
that energy coming through the speakers
28:27
it is a different vibration you know um
28:30
and i remember one time at capitol
28:33
center before i experienced it
28:36
run from run dmc told me he said yo have
28:39
you ever seen chuck brown i said no we
28:41
was all three on this show together he's
28:43
a man you ain't seen trump he's oh man
28:46
wait until you see this and i was like
28:48
it can't be that is it really that
28:50
serious you know i went there and i got
28:53
there early and i seen what chuck did
28:56
bro i ran in his dressing room after
28:58
that and i said i never seen nothing
29:01
like that this is unbelievable and it
29:03
was 20 000 people there and he started
29:05
laughing and he said you he said you
29:08
experience he said you just experienced
29:10
the go-go experience and from that day
29:13
to
29:14
his one of his last concerts which was
29:16
on the capitol lawn me and him always
29:19
performed together spontaneously or
29:22
whether he called me or asked me to get
29:24
on the show with him or perform and and
29:26
our relationship just grew and i guess
29:29
maybe that's why it was important for me
29:31
to do this because the world need to
29:33
know who created this
29:37
absolutely and you know what let's play
29:39
that song
29:41
chuck brown right now come back and take
29:43
some more calls this is the go-go
29:46
version
29:48
you did the go-go version of the show i
29:50
don't know i want to play the song
29:51
titled chuck brown right now the album
29:53
is out this one's for chuck brown dougie
29:55
fresh to lose the godfather go go you
29:58
have any questions 888-742-3345
30:02
yeah man
30:03
come on man
30:05
salute
30:09
come on that sounds amazing so amazing
30:12
we got the legendary iconic dougie fresh
30:15
online with us right now
30:17
as we celebrate chuck brown the
30:19
godfather of gogo the new project is
30:21
this one for chuck brown dougie fresh to
30:23
lose the godfather of go go we look man
30:26
as soon as we put that on callers start
30:28
calling in james in d.c james graham
30:31
rising hey jane
30:34
hey man how y'all doing man i just want
30:35
to let y'all know man i'm riding around
30:37
listening to y'all in dc man
30:41
i really appreciate y'all man really
30:42
putting on go go especially because i'm
30:44
playing a go-go band myself
30:49
since i wow uh
30:50
like 14 years old so i'm 30 now i'm
30:52
going on 31 and my band is called t.o.b
30:55
so we play a lot we want the big dogs in
30:58
the dc area so you know
31:00
this moment for w fresh to really you
31:02
know give that shine to chuck brown you
31:05
know the leader of the go-go you know
31:06
you know community that's real big and i
31:09
really appreciate y'all giving us this
31:10
you know that shine
31:12
[Applause]
31:14
yeah no man well
31:16
i appreciate you brother and you know
31:19
a lot of times you know like this
31:21
conversation started with me asking
31:24
how
31:25
how how y'all are doing and how your
31:27
family is doing because that's sincerely
31:31
where i come from it's not
31:33
make believe
31:35
so
31:36
when when this song was made about chuck
31:38
it's this it's equivalent to me of the
31:40
same way
31:42
you know sway is talking about his
31:44
grandmother or you know or his
31:47
grandparents and heather's talking about
31:49
her grandparents like chuck brown
31:51
is the god father he is somebody that
31:54
needs to be acknowledged and when we
31:57
don't acknowledge the ones who paved the
31:59
way
32:00
i think that we are doomed because it
32:04
shows we have no respect and when you
32:06
have no respect
32:08
you know the culture
32:10
and the family
32:12
gets destroyed you know because
32:15
because you don't respect the ones who
32:18
created something or paved the way so
32:20
how do you expect anybody else to to to
32:23
respect them you know we have this thing
32:25
we talk about culture vultures and all
32:27
this other stuff the only reason why the
32:29
vulture is able to eat is because
32:31
somebody left them something to eat you
32:33
know that's how the vulture eat but when
32:36
we acknowledge our own
32:38
when we take care of our own and when we
32:41
pay respect
32:42
the respect that they do
32:44
you know
32:45
like you said y'all went and brought
32:47
food over to your grandma or
32:49
grandfather's house
32:51
that's deep
32:53
who does that anymore like
32:56
that is the way we grew up
32:58
that is the way i was taught like
33:01
there's no other way for me to beat so
33:04
this record
33:05
and i thank the creator for giving me
33:07
the the division to do it people were
33:11
saying yo why are you doing that you
33:13
could be rhyming you could do this you
33:15
could do that i said nah
33:16
this one's for chuckling wow
33:20
you know what i'm saying and i called
33:22
his family
33:24
family
33:25
and let them know
33:27
hey james what's the name of your band
33:29
again
33:31
we all call it the t.o.b buying the show
33:34
there it is brother i hope to come
33:36
across your path one day and see y'all
33:37
get down i know y'all sweating it out
33:39
james all right you're a citizen brother
33:42
in the morning
33:43
all right my man doug it's a lot of
33:46
people now that just lit up i want to
33:48
try to just let them say hi to you you
33:50
know quick highs and quick responses
33:52
nice let's go to maryland norman is in
33:54
maryland okay norman in maryland green
33:56
rises norman
33:58
hey what's up good morning sue how you
34:00
doing how are you doing heather b hey
34:02
hey tracy tracy g2 got throw out tracy
34:05
tracy
34:07
doug i'm from the dmv man and and i was
34:10
listening to the show man and
34:12
for you to acknowledge and pay homage to
34:15
the man that we call the godfather man
34:17
i grew up with chuck man and when you
34:19
got the reeling off names man the
34:22
j-y-b-n-e-g
34:24
essence like man you just took me back
34:27
man i'm 55 years old man and and you
34:29
just brought back some memories to me
34:31
man
34:32
and i can remember when when when when
34:34
junk signed with def jam and they they
34:37
hit the sardines and the whole nine
34:39
yards and then herbie would come down
34:41
take that beat take it back up to new
34:43
york man and and let kid play hit it and
34:49
man thank you for acknowledging
34:51
go go man i just wish we could get out
34:54
of dc with a little bit more but man i i
34:57
thank you sir i thank you i thank you i
34:59
thank you i was at the show at the
35:01
capitol center when they had the go-go
35:03
fest and you came out on stage man thank
35:05
you sir thank you thank you thank you
35:07
brother thank you brother thank you
35:10
and the goal is that this is what this
35:12
project is for this project is to make
35:15
sure that the world
35:17
gets to acknowledge go go music the
35:20
culture and the godfather chuck brown i
35:23
mean i it's actually in the grammys i
35:26
have the song in the grammys for
35:29
it's being it's set up for the grammys i
35:31
think it's in two or three categories
35:34
there's a category now
35:36
in the grammys called gogo did you know
35:38
that's why i did not know that doug i
35:41
did not and this is the
35:42
a spray is crazy because once the the
35:46
thought came to me to write this song
35:49
i never knew
35:51
that there was a com there was a
35:52
category called
35:54
goku orton it's they call it it's it's a
35:57
category under
35:59
roots music so they got go go in there
36:03
but what would be how much of a
36:05
coincidence is that you see what i'm
36:07
saying yeah hey doug so when you get
36:09
this grammy you want me and rich to come
36:11
out on stage with you or how you want to
36:13
do this let me know i was actually going
36:16
to ask you about that but
36:18
i was waiting you know
36:21
hey look hey look and i'm telling you if
36:23
when the grammy has gotten we're gonna
36:25
bring it right to dc and give it to
36:28
chuck family for chuck man there you go
36:31
i'm loving it
36:33
hey norman you're a citizen brother sway
36:35
in the morning angela in new jersey you
36:37
want to say something to dougie fresh
36:39
real quick grand rapids angela
36:41
hi
36:42
hi everyone um i just want to share my
36:45
experience and doug was so so right i
36:48
attended the capitol jazz fest i think
36:51
was one of chuck brown's last
36:53
performances
36:54
i'm a jersey girl we don't listen to go
36:56
go much i'm gonna sit in there like
36:59
next thing you know
37:01
i catch myself dancing you walk out is a
37:03
totally different experience after you
37:05
hear him it was like my whole world and
37:08
changed it upside down but to see the
37:10
dynamics of young people as little as
37:13
tyler's all the way up to 80 they had
37:15
cmv a lot
37:17
so it just shows that the godfather
37:21
it's just everything
37:22
wow wow how did doug do
37:26
he did good he did good he had me
37:28
partying okay that's what's up hey
37:31
angela thanks for sharing your
37:32
experience angela dougie fresh has a new
37:34
project out did i tell you did i mention
37:36
it already
37:38
i was listening to it
37:41
there you go this one's for chuck brown
37:43
citizens it's called this one's for
37:45
chuck brown dougie fresh salutes the
37:47
godfather goku go pick it up thank you
37:49
angela you're a citizen that's why
37:51
anymore there yes what you want to say
37:53
grand rises
37:54
hey folks i want to take grand rising
37:57
and uh good morning to everybody i got a
37:59
question for doug
38:02
go for it
38:04
okay
38:06
so when are you going to put out
38:10
a documentary movie on your life
38:13
and if you are going to put it out are
38:15
you going to
38:16
feature
38:17
an actor to take the place of the
38:19
magical kenny be the first hip-hop
38:20
magician
38:23
wow
38:24
well first of all
38:26
first of all
38:27
acknowledging kenny b
38:30
the first hip-hop magician
38:32
is just hands-down
38:35
mind-blowing that you said that
38:37
wow you know me and kenny me and kenny
38:39
was friends since we were seven years
38:41
old
38:43
so i don't know if you knew that but we
38:45
were friends since seven years old and i
38:47
took him on the road
38:49
and he was a very close close close
38:51
friend
38:52
and as far as the documentary go
38:55
you know i'm doing i'm doing step by
38:57
step like actually this album this one's
39:00
for chuck brown
39:02
and the introductions i mean and to let
39:05
people know about gogo music i felt like
39:07
you know spiritually something told me
39:09
it was very important to do that and i
39:11
was more concerned with him than i was
39:13
concerned about telling people my story
39:15
because i'm alive to tell my story a
39:17
little bit but i don't think he could
39:19
tell his story the way i could tell it
39:21
for him you know so i thought it was
39:23
important to do that
39:25
and also as far as you know just the
39:28
documentary stuff i'm looking into that
39:30
down the road but right now it's a lot
39:33
more to do i just let out all i let out
39:35
three albums my first three albums that
39:38
i made i re-released them remastered
39:41
them on october 15th all of my the music
39:44
i made from the first album the second
39:47
the fourth album everything is and with
39:50
bonus remixes and a bunch of other stuff
39:52
that people like all of those things are
39:54
going to be available now too so
39:57
you know there's a lot of work that's
39:58
about to be done in documentary i'm
40:00
actually doing a beatbox documentary
40:03
though to tell people exactly how i
40:06
created it because
40:08
it's the it's the last element in
40:10
hip-hop it's the fifth element so i
40:13
don't think people understand
40:15
exactly what happened and how this thing
40:18
became you know you see it being done
40:21
but you don't really understand
40:22
everything that had to happen for it to
40:24
be there
40:25
you know so
40:26
yeah so
40:27
that's what's going on one more question
40:29
no that's it anthony but we appreciate
40:31
you you're a citizen brother go ahead
40:32
man
40:34
you'll be all right
40:38
it's a long line
40:41
he'll be all right he asked a good
40:42
question listen there's a lot of folks
40:45
jack from omaha malik from connecticut
40:47
heather from portland reuben from new
40:49
orleans
40:50
will from um
40:52
north carolina reggie in chicago the
40:55
lines go on and on i want you all
40:58
to have a wonderful experience by
41:00
hitting dougie fresh directly on his
41:02
social media
41:04
because he's a person that will respond
41:07
and so i know a lot of you have some
41:08
great questions for dougie hit them
41:11
directly doug tell them how they can hit
41:12
you man
41:14
you can hit me at the real dougie fresh
41:16
on the instagram
41:18
and uh
41:19
and i will respond
41:21
you know very simple we living in a time
41:23
where it's very simple these days ain't
41:25
it's right ain't it duck it don't take a
41:28
whole lot it don't take a whole lot to
41:30
do and it don't take a whole lot to tell
41:31
you i'm not gonna do it so that's right
41:34
and i gotta shout you out i gotta i
41:37
gotta acknowledge you man because
41:39
hey this transition of the technology
41:42
has been definitely one that you know
41:45
you told me about a long time ago and
41:48
then d nice even got got on it and told
41:51
me when he had his
41:53
explosion on instagram he said doug
41:56
embrace the technology
41:59
and i never forgot those words and he
42:01
used to be with me when i'm on tour in
42:03
the dressing room and doing push-ups
42:06
eating veg vegan sandwiches and making
42:09
juices and all that and one day he said
42:11
doug i'ma just tell you one thing man
42:14
embrace the technology and that's what
42:16
i'm doing you know this is very
42:18
interesting
42:20
all right very interesting to go from
42:21
vinyl to no vinyl you know what i mean
42:25
right very interesting and you're doing
42:27
an excellent job that's why i started
42:29
off with i'm proud of you because i
42:30
watch how you do and i and i honestly
42:32
man i wish more artists
42:35
from from the generations would embrace
42:37
it and not not fight it so much do it
42:40
your way like i love when i see grand
42:42
master cast on social media you know
42:45
what i mean
42:46
two things before before you go
42:49
um i want to say
42:51
i appreciate how you uphold the life and
42:54
legacy of bear's marquee
42:57
i saw you post the street naming of him
43:00
and you gave a lot of kind words to his
43:03
to his wife and his family and you've
43:05
included bizmarquee on this project for
43:07
the go-go version of the show um i wanna
43:11
i wanna ask you in your opinion what is
43:13
his legacy in this culture
43:17
biz legacy
43:19
thanks a lot for that also and and
43:22
definitely
43:23
uh sending a lot of love and and energy
43:26
to his wife and his family
43:29
um
43:30
biz's legacy is
43:32
he was the heart of hip-hop
43:35
he was the heart
43:36
and what i mean by that is
43:39
was loved and appreciated and celebrated
43:41
everywhere he went and he was somebody
43:44
that
43:45
if you didn't feel if you didn't feel
43:47
like playing he gonna make you play if
43:50
you didn't feel like laughing he's gonna
43:52
make you laugh and he's gonna and then
43:54
and then he was he he had a very
43:57
childish kind of way where you know if
44:00
you see him with a brand new
44:02
mixer he'll be like
44:05
you know
44:11
it was always about laughing it was
44:14
always about fun
44:15
and i don't know if you know but this
44:18
basically started with me and to get
44:20
fresh crew in 82
44:23
i i brought him i brought him into
44:25
harlem and i brought him to my house
44:28
my grandmother this marquis started with
44:31
the gift fresh crew
44:33
this monkey started with the get fresh
44:35
crew brother that's where he started
44:37
doing the beat boxes he was up under me
44:40
and he used to practice djing with barry
44:42
and will obviously he was with colby too
44:46
but he came from long island in 1982 it
44:49
was a show with love bug starsky the
44:52
cold crush brothers
44:53
me
44:54
and they had him biz on the fly i'ma
44:57
send you the flyer so you can see i sent
44:59
it to him when he was in the hospital
45:01
because his wife we was trying to get
45:03
him to get out of you know you know to
45:06
to kind of get himself back up and i get
45:08
on the phone and talk to him and and say
45:11
biz look at the flyer come on man we got
45:14
work to do you know and i would mess
45:16
with them but our relationship go back
45:18
to 82 so
45:20
that's why i think it was so important
45:22
to put him on this project i didn't know
45:24
this is the way it was going to turn out
45:26
but i'm glad that i was able to still
45:29
acknowledge my brother
45:30
in a way that i felt that he would have
45:33
done for me you know
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absolutely
45:36
dougie fresh ladies and gentlemen i hope
45:38
you enjoy this is why you have this um
45:41
tune into this show hopefully because of
45:43
moments like this
45:44
yeah we we go really quick really quick
45:47
we got to acknowledge chucky thompson
45:49
who was the 16 year old conga player for
45:52
chuck brown and the soul searchers
45:53
that's how i met mr chuck brown through
45:55
chucky thompson who was 16 years old
45:57
playing congress in the soul searches
45:59
with chuck brown i gotta i gotta say
46:01
that absolutely
46:03
and hey rich and you know what's crazy
46:06
about that
46:07
what's crazy about that
46:09
is that
46:10
chucky thompson
46:12
was going to produce a go-go
46:15
record with me before he passed
46:18
wow and i was in his studio and we would
46:21
be in there talking about chuck
46:24
so
46:24
it's just it's just very interesting how
46:27
all of these pieces came and on chuck
46:30
brown day
46:31
in in the in the dmv
46:33
i put together a performance where we
46:36
acknowledge chucky and we are not
46:38
acknowledged chuck and we put them side
46:40
by side so you know wherever they are i
46:43
know they jamming they still jamming
46:46
that's what it's all about man we got to
46:47
celebrate life while we're here
46:50
and appreciate each other you know
46:53
yeah man dougie fresh
46:56
[Applause]
47:06
my friend but i gotta go to my next job
47:08
okay
47:16
and you know people don't realize that
47:18
biz had a history in the dmv area so
47:21
thank you doug for bringing that up also
47:22
breaking news coming from the sports
47:24
world you guys the brooklyn nets have
47:27
announced and they say that kyrie irving
47:29
will not play or practice until he is
47:32
eligible under local cove at 19
47:34
vaccination mandate so now even his
47:36
practice is done with the brooklyn nets
47:39
this is an update and story i'll keep
47:40
you posted as much as i can on social
47:43
media but this is breaking news all
47:45
right all right thank you hb have a good
47:47
show today love you hp appreciate that
47:49
i'm a season ticket holder go ahead
47:51
tracy we don't know
47:52
who want to hold doug too long okay okay
47:54
bye bye bye just because we're going
47:56
through like all of um the history
47:58
making moves that doug's done throughout
48:00
the years it also reminds me that doug
48:03
you were i feel like the first hip-hop
48:05
artist who publicly embraced scientology
48:08
some years ago and obviously you know
48:10
and a lot of people know um there's
48:13
controversy around it but then there's a
48:14
lot of people who've spoken highly about
48:16
it are you still a member of the
48:18
scientology church
48:20
yeah yeah i still study scientology and
48:24
i still use the technology as far as the
48:27
basic courses
48:29
and read a lot of the books
48:31
and stuff like that because it has been
48:34
very powerful a lot of people are
48:37
talking about mental health these days
48:39
and scientology was dealing with that
48:42
subject a long time ago because
48:44
dianetics was about
48:46
mental health and getting people to
48:50
look at themselves and deal with some of
48:52
their issues and and resolve some of the
48:55
issues you know the world is in the
48:56
condition that isn't because of the
48:59
mental health of the individuals that's
49:02
in the world so studying scientology has
49:05
been very useful to me even on this
49:08
journey because
49:09
it gives you mathematics and science
49:12
it's not guesswork it is it is
49:15
calculated and it's natural laws
49:18
and without going into a deep
49:20
conversation about it but just giving
49:22
you an overview
49:24
uh i just think that
49:26
it's important for us to really look at
49:29
mental health and really do some work in
49:32
that area because even the most sane
49:36
don't really understand how in some ways
49:38
they may not be so sane
49:40
so
49:41
it takes a lot of courage to look at
49:44
yourself and not just judge someone else
49:48
and that's what scientology was for me
49:51
because it made me have to take a look
49:53
inside and deal with
49:55
fixing some of the things like you said
49:58
sway how do you stay so long because if
50:00
you don't look inside and be honest with
50:03
yourself about certain things and
50:05
certain actions that you're doing that
50:07
may not be the best actions
50:10
you'll keep making those mistakes and
50:12
eventually you know those same mistakes
50:14
will destroy you so you got to figure
50:16
out a way to stop it and sometimes
50:20
whether it's a self-help book whether
50:22
it's the church whatever it is that
50:24
works for you for me
50:26
scientology was one of the keys that
50:28
helped me to take a look inside
50:31
and fix some of the things that i didn't
50:34
even know
50:35
was an issue
50:37
so it's fascinating it's something to
50:39
look at you know
50:40
thanks for sharing thank you dougie
50:42
fresh uh and we can talk about that too
50:44
later in depth uh when we sit down in
50:46
person um yeah
50:48
and i appreciate you dougie fresh this
50:51
was this is amazing man it you see
50:54
tracy none of us have seen each other in
50:56
person in a long time that's right doug
50:58
was like the band is back together and
51:01
let's see each other man i need to hug
51:03
you brother yeah i need i need a cuddle
51:06
okay come on brother you already know
51:08
man come on i need a dog man my brother
51:12
boy come on richard
51:14
i wanted to ask about your your daughter
51:16
but we're getting it out on the phone
51:18
okay oh she's awesome she's doing
51:20
excellent she used to call him doggy
51:22
fresh
51:22
[Applause]
51:25
studio she walked in the studio and lit
51:27
up the studio i remember when he first
51:29
hooked up with her
51:30
and look i keep i keep that image in my
51:33
head because her energy was so strong
51:36
you know what i'm saying yo it didn't
51:38
change hey it compounded now she's 23
51:41
doug
51:43
bring back yeah man back then she was
51:45
probably like six or seven now she's 20
51:48
yeah
51:54
make sure y'all pick up the project pick
51:56
it up pick it up it's out now some
51:59
beautiful music it's a it's a beautiful
52:01
representation and tribute to the one
52:03
and only chuck brown the project is
52:05
called this one's for chuck brown dougie
52:07
fresh salutes to godfather the go-go
52:09
rich nice thank you for uh joining us
52:11
today tracy the whole team wonder bb oq
52:15
kelly um heather b
52:17
it's time for lord sir so we got to rush
52:19
out but i want to end
52:21
the show playing
52:23
the go go version of the show featuring
52:26
biz marquee
52:27
okay
52:28
let's do it yes
52:30
all right doug have a beautiful day and
52:32
on that no citizens we have nothing
52:35
left to say
52:39
[Music]
52:51
you
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