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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:36 - Enabling Mental Health Strategies
6:02 - Building Generational Wealth
10:28 - Sean from PA: Mental Health Discussion
12:38 - Caller from C: Wellness Advice
14:01 - Caller from KS: Men's Health Insight
19:39 - Birthday Song for Rich from Philly
20:45 - Rich from Philly: Mental Health Question
21:07 - Creating Positive Habits
21:22 - Benefits of Individual Therapy
22:26 - Final Words on Mental Health & Wellness
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I listen to this man Heather I sneak
0:03
peek right go on his Instagram I don't
0:06
care when he post those still frames I
0:08
don't want to see him in shorts and
0:09
sneakers and stuff like that I want to
0:10
hear what he has to say because he gave
0:13
me permission to forgive myself I often
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sit in guilt that I don't know how to
0:18
rid myself of I be guilty about stuff I
0:22
didn't do like not calling me back
0:24
yesterday I mean on Saturday I didn't
0:27
feel any guilt for that nothing releas
0:29
[Laughter]
0:32
did you feel guilty about calling me at
0:34
4:30 a.m. this morning though I feel
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pleasure in
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that maybe we got to talk to David our
0:41
relationship about our relationship I
0:43
took pleasure in calling her at 4:30 I
0:45
knew I would wake her up for no reason
0:47
David but not call me back at 4:00
0:50
Saturday afternoon how do you do that
0:52
what do you say what that how you take
0:54
advantage of your sibling this way you
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said family Dynamics yeah go back to
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boundaries don't be calling me no don't
0:59
call me at 4:30 4:30 I got she got to
1:02
said she never told me not to call her
1:03
at 4:30 oh okay okay I just want to say
1:05
that yeah that's my fault but especially
1:08
with family members yeah I have this
1:11
thing where there are family members who
1:14
are no longer on this planet and I feel
1:17
obligated to do certain things for other
1:20
family members because of the family
1:21
members who have transitioned what like
1:24
for me to do it they're no longer here
1:28
they're only in my spirit my mind right
1:31
yeah in my heart but I carry guilt yeah
1:35
I don't know how to get rid of it yeah
1:37
if I don't help a friend or a family
1:40
member in need if I when I know I kind
1:42
of don't think it's healthy for me to
1:44
even help them right I feel like I'm
1:46
enabling right you are uh I am M you are
1:52
okay and is that in the in by
1:55
enabling and we're
1:58
talking I'll give examp examples folks
2:01
who are trying to get ahead and you
2:04
constantly feed them resources so they
2:06
can get ahead but they never get ahead
2:10
and they may never do what the resource
2:12
what they planned on doing or what they
2:14
said they would do yeah and I still go
2:17
back right people who I think are doing
2:20
um just living
2:23
wrong just living wrong not living their
2:26
best let me say that I'm try to change
2:28
my language hold up living their not
2:30
living their best I see it and I might
2:32
give them hey man here's some pointers
2:34
here's some guidelines yeah this might
2:36
help you say you look at what I've done
2:38
you might admire What I've Done here's
2:41
what I've done maybe there something in
2:42
that you can apply to your life maybe
2:45
and they don't do it but they always
2:48
want the help and that's the knowledge
2:51
that you're giving them is worth more
2:52
than the money speak on that speak in
2:54
your mind too oh my bad the the the
2:56
knowledge that you're giving them is is
2:58
worth more than money uh-huh showing
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someone how to do something showing them
3:02
how to fish is worth way more than
3:04
giving them a fish right and so the
3:06
question for me if I was your therapist
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I'm not your therapist but if I was act
3:10
like you are that's why I got you up
3:11
here Dam
3:12
it the question I I would ask
3:16
is why do you feel guilty like like pull
3:19
back the onion why do you feel guilty
3:21
about
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that I cuz I don't want to see my people
3:26
not doing as well as me okay now pull
3:29
that back okay you don't want this them
3:31
you don't want them doing not not being
3:35
on the same level that you're on you
3:37
want to give them an opportunities to to
3:38
do to do their thing right yeah but if
3:40
they don't want it for themselves not
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saying that they don't but if they don't
3:43
want it for themselves that's not on you
3:46
that's on them right so at the end of
3:49
the day if I'm giving you these tools
3:51
you can use them or not use them but if
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I feel guilty for that or I feel shamed
3:57
for that then I have to peel that onion
3:59
back and that's that's what therapists
4:01
are for going going into therapy having
4:03
a talk with your therapist and saying
4:05
listen I'm feeling guilty about a lot of
4:06
stuff that I know I shouldn't feel
4:08
guilty for yeah and you all begin to
4:10
pull that peel that back because often
4:11
times that goes back to Childhood that
4:13
our childhood trauma shows up um in our
4:16
adult lives what what what what how can
4:19
you
4:20
apply I wonder how do you apply that to
4:23
my childhood I mean we all we we had a
4:26
uh my grandparents God bless them Claude
4:28
and Elsie Waters give a round of
4:29
applause for the amazing job that they
4:31
did with this huge family they
4:33
created but uh we we didn't grow up
4:37
destitute you know we didn't grow up
4:38
filthy rich or nothing like that
4:40
obviously um but how does that revert
4:43
back to my childhood that guilt so
4:45
sometimes there's direct pressure and
4:47
indirect pressure so indirect pressure
4:50
is guilt tripping right your dad went to
4:52
work all day long and you can't even
4:54
take care of your homework right or
4:56
whatever it may be right that's that
4:58
guilt tripping the child guilt tripping
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you know whoever it may be and then
5:01
there's direct pressure yelling
5:03
screaming going off you know you got to
5:06
be more like this you got to be more
5:07
like that wen't you doing your stuff and
5:09
I would encourage parents so that we
5:11
don't have the CH the trauma later on in
5:13
life is to encourage your kids to be
5:16
good people encourage them to find their
5:19
purpose encourage them to be kind to
5:22
others and patient and loving and caring
5:25
those things are much more valuable than
5:28
you just simply living cuz we live our
5:30
lives through our children sometimes you
5:32
know that's what we do and so if if if
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there was something in my childhood that
5:37
I didn't resolve and I you know I didn't
5:39
make it to the NBA or I didn't this or I
5:41
didn't that now I want you to right and
5:45
so everything becomes about you
5:47
fulfilling the things I did not
5:49
fulfill right and now you may grow up
5:52
later on in life having guilt about them
5:54
not right even if it's not your own
5:56
children them not fulfilling their best
5:58
self but often times that's learned in
6:00
childhood that's learned in childhood
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learn in childhood you know you bring up
6:04
that point um we recently we got our rap
6:07
dad's podcast and rhymefest said
6:11
something really interesting and it
6:12
really took off people really toned in
6:16
tuned into to what he had to say and it
6:17
was about generational wealth but the
6:20
dynamic between the parents and the kids
6:22
similar to what you just said
6:25
generational wealth ain't property ain't
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no man that I ever met that said he
6:30
wanted to leave generational wealth for
6:32
his kids and and looked at it in terms
6:34
of material I never met a man that died
6:37
that left
6:39
that your kids don't want your house
6:41
that's a burden wow your dream was the
6:45
business that I'm going to build the
6:47
business you're doing that to be selfish
6:49
and you putting your kids name on it
6:51
they don't want that
6:52
business they want to know how to build
6:54
their own business there it is it gives
6:57
me chills cuz it disturbs nerves me how
7:00
we think that money is the replacement
7:03
for training and love we we we we we're
7:07
buying into the enemy's message of of
7:13
wealth Ryan Fest man go to Rap dzz on
7:16
YouTube on sway universe that's the
7:19
YouTube channel you can see this full
7:20
episode that was so powerful you can go
7:22
to the rap dads show on Instagram the
7:25
rap dads show on Instagram what are your
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thoughts about that
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I agree yeah uh there's a there's a book
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uh by Mark Wen called it didn't start
7:35
with you how family trauma shapes who we
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are right so if you don't get please go
7:42
out there and get that book
7:45
so I love how he said it your dreams are
7:49
your dreams they're not your children's
7:52
dreams and that's really hard for us to
7:55
to to digest and understand and process
7:58
because hold on wait I got some things
8:00
again I didn't accomplish in my life I
8:02
got some things I think are valuable I
8:04
find Value in those things and naturally
8:07
I want to pass those things down to you
8:09
but your child is great with their hands
8:10
or your child is great at math or your
8:12
child is great at sports it's not
8:14
necessarily the same path that you had
8:16
and they don't necessarily have the same
8:18
desires that you had and that can be
8:20
hard especially when you think about
8:22
young children you was praying for your
8:24
children you want of the boy or you want
8:25
of the girl and you see them in a little
8:27
crib and you excited about them and you
8:29
are already creating this madeup image
8:32
of who they will be without knowing who
8:35
they actually
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are wow David Weber is here give out
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your Instagram Citizens We're going to
8:40
open up these phone lines W um 888 742
8:45
3345 David give out your Instagram yeah
8:47
Instagram is David Weber LPC that's
8:51
David wbb rore LPC topics are if you
8:56
want to talk about your family Dynamics
8:58
with parenting and kids and your kids
9:00
maybe you're the kid or maybe you're the
9:01
parent call up or any other thing you
9:03
want to talk to them about we got rich
9:05
from Philly our resident attorneys here
9:07
with his lovely wife Alexa and maybe
9:10
they got a question they're a year and a
9:11
half in their W in their marriage so
9:13
they're going to come up with a question
9:15
for you this is their therapy that's up
9:17
next 888 742 3345 we're in the middle of
9:21
a a session right now with David Weber
9:23
mental health Mondays that's right
9:24
mental health Mondays he has a master's
9:26
degree in clinical mental health
9:27
counseling from Northwest
9:29
University he's official yes okay and Ry
9:33
Fest said this generational wealth ain't
9:36
property ain't no man that I ever met
9:39
that said he wanted to leave
9:41
generational wealth for his kids and and
9:43
looked at it in terms of material I
9:46
never met a man that died that left
9:49
that your kids don't want your house
9:52
that's a burden wow your dream was the
9:56
business that I'm going to build the
9:57
business you're doing that to be selfish
9:59
and you putting your kids name on it
10:01
they don't want that
10:02
business they want to know how to build
10:05
their own business there it is it gives
10:07
me chills cuz it disturbs me how we
10:11
think that money is the replacement for
10:14
training and love we we we we we're
10:18
buying into the enemy's message of of
10:22
wealth David Weber is here with us you
10:24
agree with Ryan
10:26
Fest I do you do yeah I do
10:29
okay we have um Sean on the line Sean is
10:32
from Pennsylvania what are your thoughts
10:34
Sean all right real quick um I disagree
10:37
because well when you said that last
10:39
part I believe that um some kids kids
10:44
dreams are a reflection of the parents
10:47
dreams when you look at bronnie James
10:48
Jaylen Brunson and so many uh Father and
10:51
Son combos that are NBA Duos things like
10:53
that and I also remember you made a
10:55
statement years ago I don't know if it
10:57
was um somebody who went to school with
10:59
or somebody that owned a plumbing
11:00
company where the parent um made the
11:04
child go through every job in the
11:06
company to learn
11:09
to learn how to build their own business
11:12
well that's a reflection in them doing
11:14
that and uh General generational wealth
11:17
um and I I do believe he met somebody
11:20
that that left generational wealth in
11:22
terms of something that's tangible like
11:25
we can't get away from that when you
11:26
look at Rolex and all of these people
11:29
that are um Heirs of uh multi-billion
11:32
dollar companies that are trust fund
11:34
babies and things like that so we can't
11:36
really get away from that in the reality
11:39
of it it does come down in material and
11:42
wealth and stocks and land and things
11:44
like that stuff that you can really see
11:46
so I I disagree with that one what are
11:49
your thoughts David yeah I mean there's
11:50
nothing wrong with passing down you know
11:53
generational wealth to your children but
11:56
I think I think the gist of what he's
11:58
saying is you know giving them more than
12:00
that like you started your own business
12:02
they don't necessarily want your
12:03
business they want to learn how to
12:05
create their own business um you use
12:07
LeBron and bronnie James like bronnie
12:10
has the from what I know he has the same
12:13
dreams to make it to the NBA and play
12:15
and do those types of things so there's
12:16
nothing wrong with that if if your son
12:18
or your daughter has the same dreams as
12:20
you what we're talking about is when it
12:22
differs from your dreams if you have
12:24
dreams for your child and are not the
12:26
same as yours not um sort of putting
12:28
them pressure on them to to to do what
12:30
you do all right hey Sean thank you man
12:32
I love the discourse brother all right
12:34
you super citizen my man Sean Dara is on
12:37
the line go ahead theisha she's
12:39
fromc good morning good morning I just
12:42
wanted to touch basis with you guys as
12:44
an LPC myself I appreciate Mr Weber and
12:47
his
12:48
conversation um I work within a school
12:51
district where we're placed inside the
12:53
school to provide services for the
12:55
children and I've seen how much it has
12:57
helped and the program has grown the
12:59
last two years I've been there and what
13:01
I tell the teachers and the parents is
13:03
that these kids need more than monetary
13:05
things because right now they're lacking
13:07
the skills the social skills the coping
13:09
skills to be productive citizens and so
13:12
that's generational wealth if we can't
13:14
heal from our generational curses then
13:16
we're not going to be productive
13:18
individuals so I completely agree
13:21
because it's more than money all these
13:23
kids right now see Tik Tock and phones
13:25
and shoes and that's what they base
13:27
their lives on
13:29
and so they don't have that foundation
13:31
so I totally agree um but we do do want
13:34
to keep teaching these kids about
13:35
financial literacy which we do provide
13:37
in our program but I agree with Mr Weber
13:39
and as LPC a black LPC I appreciate you
13:43
thank you for your call thank that's
13:44
what's up Thea we appreciate your call
13:46
you're super citizen as well all right
13:48
let's get a question from okay
13:52
why she gave her
13:55
own okay okay I already I saw that okay
13:59
all right have a beautiful day thank you
14:00
for tuning in Billy and Kansas what's
14:02
your question hey Billy we got David we
14:04
here excellent hey um so kind is kind of
14:09
a long question but not really but is
14:11
okay let me do Billy Billy Billy yeah
14:13
don't do the setup just go straight to
14:15
the question all right I got you all
14:17
right so my mom passed away two two
14:19
years ago and I got custody of my little
14:21
brother and he just turned 10 a few
14:25
weeks ago and I have a 10-month old baby
14:28
that just turned 10 months uh Saturday
14:31
so my question is I I'm I'm noticing the
14:35
things that she did with me and my
14:37
brothers and I don't want to continue
14:39
doing that so like yelling in the
14:42
morning trying to get us up and you know
14:44
getting us ready and talking it's a
14:46
household of dudes so it's like how do
14:49
me as as as a 26 year old how do I get
14:53
that um that Comfort to my my little
14:57
brother and then my uh son to where it's
14:59
not like they're growing up in anger and
15:02
whatnot and and stuff like that cuz I
15:04
feel like I got built up anger and I
15:07
don't want to pass that on to the next
15:10
Generation so as like
15:12
how what are the ways to help me out
15:15
that's that's a that's a great question
15:17
um they're gonna they're gonna do what
15:20
you do right if if you if you're loud
15:24
they'll be loud if you scream they'll
15:26
scream if you yell they'll yell
15:29
if you don't know how to have
15:30
conversations they won't know how to
15:32
have conversations there will be a
15:33
reflection of you in that sense from an
15:35
emotional standpoint so the best way to
15:38
help them is by handling your own
15:41
business getting your own therapy and
15:43
doing that work right I always say
15:45
respectful anger is is extraordinarily
15:48
important what's what's respectful anger
15:50
respectful anger is I can be
15:51
extraordinarily angry with you but it's
15:53
going to be respectful I get angry with
15:55
my father occasionally I would never
15:57
ever yell at my father or go off my
15:59
father that's my father right and so for
16:01
spes or whoever it may be for your
16:04
children allow them to see respectful
16:07
anger you may have done something wrong
16:08
in the house I didn't want to see but
16:10
I'mma show you how to emotionally be
16:13
well in a home the best way to do that
16:15
for yourself is going to get help going
16:16
to get therapy for you so that you can
16:18
work through those issues yourself check
16:20
this out Billy Billy if you really want
16:22
to do that because this man David Weber
16:24
you can follow him at David David Weber
16:27
LPC offers those Services if you want to
16:30
sign up for some classes I'll take care
16:32
of it for you yes sir because you're 26
16:35
years old raising these kids my daughter
16:38
that's all I heard I was like he salute
16:40
to you Billy at first of
16:42
all um honor and respect to your mom who
16:45
made her transition but at 26 to have a
16:48
10year old and a 10-month-old I cannot
16:51
imagine you know what it's a lot so
16:54
salute to you for calling and being
16:56
transparent about your situation would
16:58
you take him on as a client would you be
17:00
interested in that Billy um yes of
17:02
course like I it's I have two older
17:05
brothers but I I get all the weight on
17:07
my shoulders and everything because I my
17:10
mom raised me to be the responsible one
17:12
so it it just felt like that so yeah I
17:15
would love any help just because I don't
17:18
like being angry and I talk to my
17:20
brothers and I sit them down and talk
17:24
but it's just you know it it's life
17:26
being just anger like and I'm tired of
17:29
it and I don't I definitely don't want
17:30
my son to have like that to act like
17:33
that and he's a happy little boy my
17:35
little brother's good but yeah any help
17:37
definely I take it yeah man let's let's
17:40
do that I'mma connect you to Lonnie
17:42
light has your information all right and
17:45
we'll make that connection happen I'm
17:47
also a first time caller we got a first
17:49
time caller wait a minute hold up man
17:51
wait a minute you
17:53
should come on
17:55
man wow made it yeah David I'm not
17:59
saying this in Billy's case but do you
18:01
think overall sometimes when you hear
18:03
situations like this because it could
18:05
happen right with a sibling or could
18:07
happen with an elder in your family you
18:09
get in the position to have to care for
18:11
an elder or something do you think or
18:14
even in a marriage do you think there's
18:16
a certain amount of um I bitterness that
18:20
that can develop because it's like why
18:22
me like why am i b I don't know if it's
18:26
burdened with this but why do I have to
18:27
deal with yeah no that is a burden you
18:30
may not you may not you know identify it
18:32
as a burden but that's a burden when you
18:34
again you have a plan for your own life
18:36
M and then this happens and that changes
18:38
your whole plans for your own life right
18:40
so yeah you're going to carry around
18:41
some some bitterness and some resentment
18:42
and some anger so it makes sense to me
18:45
why you would be angry right you didn't
18:47
you didn't ask for this and so yeah you
18:49
definitely need some help support yo
18:51
Billy we got you brother all right
18:52
Lonnie got you the information and well
18:54
I'll get you 10 I'll get you 10 sessions
18:58
wow all right I got you I appreciate
18:59
that okay but make sure you do them
19:01
because you can do you could do it via
19:03
Zoom okay via Zoom okay okay all right
19:06
my brother we hey man we're proud of you
19:08
and that you taking this initiative he
19:10
stepped up you got it man you got it all
19:13
right you're a super citizen in the
19:14
morning wow
19:16
man that's we got 10 and 10 10 and 10
19:21
kid 10 months and 26 at 26 my daughter's
19:25
25 it scared me feel like a grand father
19:28
and you ain't
19:30
26 okay sorry that was from not calling
19:33
me back okay that was fetty all right
19:34
that's stuff for family that was wrong
19:36
it was what do you do in this case
19:39
David tuck your tail tuck your tail we
19:42
need family therapy citizens for years
19:45
Rich from Philly has been calling us and
19:47
anytime we have especially in the
19:48
political realm but anytime we hear
19:50
about any legal matters this man would
19:52
graciously call us up on his way to work
19:55
on his way to court any different times
19:58
for and Fashions and answer these
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questions we became friends and he's
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come to a lot of our he's come to our
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events and he came out to New York and
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y'all heard him on the phone last week
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we said come up today Rich from Philly
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is here res attorney Rich what yall just
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hanging out you and Alexa what's going
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on it's my birthday tomorrow we had to
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come to
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celebrate bring that on y'all real quick
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his birthday torch it's his birthday
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torch
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okay I'm surpris him
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too your
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bir it's your
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birday it's your birthday and we don't
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give a Hu it's your birthday shout out
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to Rich happy birthday Rich birthday
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Rich hey man um you got a question since
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we got this guy here you've been married
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a year and a half I know because I was
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the first to announce you you were you
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were you had the privilege of
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introducing us thank you man and I'm
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forever honored for that yes but you
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have a question so we were talking about
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childhood trauma you know learn Behavior
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habits things you bring in from how you
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were raised MH what what's the advice
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you have for I guess we're still
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newlyweds what's the advice you have for
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newlyweds on how to create your own
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habits how to unlearn some behaviors
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that you brought in from your parents
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and from the way their marriage was and
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try to create your own wow wonderful
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question individual therapy a lot of
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couples go to F to couple therapy MH and
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it doesn't work if you're not doing your
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own work because you have your own
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childhood stuff that's separate from her
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own childhood stuff and so if y'all
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aren't addressing those issues
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separately that then then having couples
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counseling doesn't it gives you a few
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tools but it doesn't work very well the
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best way for couples counseling is you
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doing your own work she doing her own
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work and then you all come together and
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see a a family therapist or a coup's
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therapist and do the work together but
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that's one wonderful question yeah yeah
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all right wonderful question do y'all do
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that right now you know right now
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everything's copesthetic but you
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know we're still in we're still in that
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newly wet face yeah yeah that that that
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love fog is still over their head you
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know what I mean you walking the room
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every room smells good still you know
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what I mean you know she's not pissed at
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you leaving your clothes around the
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house yet she is but we get through oh
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you get through that okay all right cool
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uh individual work um David I want you
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to hang out with us man I appreciate you
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coming up here making this trip y'all
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citizens I need every citizen Anthony a
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Yankers Justin and
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Toronto Kam and C um Jason in Ohio lot
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of calls lot of callers if you tuned in
22:42
if you didn't call trust me when I tell
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you hit this man up directly he's very
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generous in his information and his
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expertise hit him up directly last time
22:52
we had him last month he had hundreds of
22:54
people that hit him up you accommodated
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everyone I got to
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99.9999 I got I got every I mean it was
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ridiculous call my phone up good good
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good good good good so I want y'all to
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hit him up directly on his Instagram y
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David Weber Webb
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rore
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LPC David Weber LPC is it another way
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you want them to reach you or is that it
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yeah you could that's the best way to
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get the quickest response but you can
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also call me at
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40491
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19477 7 what the hell
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40491
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19477 this dude gave out a phone number
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on the radio Mike Muse can you have you
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ever heard of such a thing other than
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the radio the stations number 888 742
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334 that's the only num give out yo okay
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here it is blow him up too just for
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giving his number out 404 919
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4777
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oh
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