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Esteban Serrano Talks New Book ‘The Ten Dad Commandments, Fatherhood Through a Hip Hop Lens’
May 23, 2023
Esteban Serrano hit up Sway In The Morning to chat about his fresh read, ”The Ten Dad Commandments, Fatherhood Through a Hip-Hop Lens”. Veteran Hip-Hop writer and father of three, Esteban brings together his love for rap and fatherhood like never before in this engaging book. It’s not just about the music – it's the mindset, attitude, and spirit of Hip-Hop that makes fatherhood more powerful. In the book, Esteban showcases the indomitable spirit and resilience that are often associated with rap music but are also essential for fatherhood.
With years of experience leading the fatherhood conversation in Hip Hop via his podcast RAP DADS, Esteban had plenty of interviews and experiences with rappers and their offspring to enrich the pages of his book. The result? A real gem of a read, infused with wit, entertainment, and substance.
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Esteban Serrano Talks New Book ‘The Ten Dad Commandments, Fatherhood Through a Hip Hop Lens’
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[Applause]
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let me tell you something about that boy
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Striker you just heard
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yes this man is an executive producer
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yes this man is a director
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yes this man has worked in television
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for over 20 years I know it because I
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was there
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I was there
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I recall working on MTV's TRL as a
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younger man
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and being shocked when I saw someone who
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looked like me
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in a Production Studio
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talk about it and he was told not to
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speak to me what that part he was told
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not to speak to me and I didn't
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understand why when I walked by this
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young man and I would give him energy he
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seemed reluctant to give it back
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and then finally I pulled up on them and
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what did I say listen man it ain't too
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many of us here
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that's Callaway so my name is sway nice
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to meet you and man and from that we
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forged and forged a bond that's been
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decades in the in the making we've
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executed produced projects together this
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is my go-to guy when I got my first look
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production deal with MTV's one of the
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first people I called and said hey let's
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create let's make some things happen uh
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and we've since done documentaries like
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shine we've been talking about this doc
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we're doing called we are the medicine
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uh we got a slew of other projects
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that's coming out through our production
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companies when you saw your MTV wraps
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return the resurrection of Yom TV wraps
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he's the captain of that ship he's the
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man that produced that show and brought
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it back including TRL Fresh Out Fridays
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that you could watch on MTV you could
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have watched him on fuse he was a pillar
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on fuse bringing hip-hop into the fuse
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Network there's so many different things
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that he's done I'm really proud of him
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for his new book the 10 and Dad
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Commandments fatherhood through a
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hip-hop lens I need all Dash to call up
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right now seven four if your dad call up
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888-742-3345 please welcome my good
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friend Esteban Serrano is here man
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listen
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oh my God man this is such this is such
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a dream it's such an honor to be here
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man come on man we work together all the
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time I know man we work together behind
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the scenes yes you know what I'm saying
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like it's just different man it's
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different to be in front of the mic
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sharing the space with the with the
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morning show you know what I'm saying
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why the hell were you not allowed to say
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hi to sweat so I was an intern at the
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time so you know there's a very strict
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interns are not allowed to talk to
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Talent
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you know what I mean and I and just for
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the back story they really really tried
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not to let me in the building at all wow
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like I'm I went to a college that I
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found in the back of the Source magazine
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it really wasn't that credible
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um I was in Philly I lived in Philly and
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I commuted to New York every day
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um you know all of the reasons why I
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really wasn't qualified to be in the
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space so I told them look give me a week
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and if you hear anything or if I let
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anybody down I'm out yeah but let me
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film on my own without you telling me
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all the reasons why I'm going to fail so
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when when he was you know showing love I
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was like bruh I'm in here I'm in here
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like on a shoestring I can't be I can't
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like you know set off any alarms so you
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know that was why they were like yo
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don't be talking to nobody yeah keep
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your head down and just work and look at
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the career you built now what year was
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that bro that was o4 that was o4 it's 20
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23. sellers up in the Rebellion I used
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to walk around the office as the black
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man is gone
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what a deep voice I remember them days
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but but I also knew I felt like my
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interpretation of that is they didn't
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want us to communicate because of the
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information I might bring or the
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information you may bring and then we'll
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you know form a collective and now we're
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swapping information and secrets about
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how things function on that side of
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corporate America uh we've gone on to do
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a lot of amazing things I just want to
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say I salute you uh we we also have a
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Brotherhood see my cousin Nia over there
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she's there that's a grown woman crew a
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grown woman gang basically all right and
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uh so if I had a grown man gang he would
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be a part of it like we're confided each
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other on every level so including uh
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Parenthood
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um but both of us being fathers we swap
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a lot of stories and scenarios and
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reading your book man I I just I met
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your amazing kids he has amazing kids
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extremely talented and you have amazing
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upbringing I feel like your father
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played a major role in the kind of Robin
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you are today heavy talk about that yeah
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man
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um my dad man is one of the most amazing
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not only just fathers but human beings
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on planet Earth right so um one of my
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favorite moments
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um when when I was growing up my mom and
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my dad were separated they weren't
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married they were they broke up after I
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was born because
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I have a twin sister my dad Puerto Rican
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from North Philly two black women from
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West Philly like blocks away from each
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other pregnant at the same time he was
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out he was the original Lil Wayne he was
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out here he was the original Nick Cannon
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you know what I'm saying but um but
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um yeah so I remember during that time
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like I was seeing him on the weekends
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and at the time my mother and I I was
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maybe about five or six years old my
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mother and I moved from West Philly to
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South Philly but she wanted me to go to
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school in West Philly because that's
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where our family was so after school my
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grandparents can get me you know
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whatever
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so we would take a a bus a Subway and
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then a bus to get me to school and then
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my mom would take a bus in the subway
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back to go to work so when my dad got me
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on the weekends I was up at like 5 30
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a.m every morning so when he got me on
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the weekend I just was sleeping and my
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dad is like yo he talked to my mom he's
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like yo why is he like no fun like he's
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on the weekend he just sleeps all day
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long and my mom explained to him you
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know well you know we live in South
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Philly but the next week he pulled up
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with a car
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he bought my mom a car wow and mind you
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he's moving in to another he was moving
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in with his girlfriend at the time and
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he had another baby mom he bought me he
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bought my mother a car so that she could
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move around with me so that the time
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that he and I spent together would be
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quality
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[Music]
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right there and that's the bar that I
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gotta live up to you know what I mean
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he's a father so and a lot of my stories
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with him are in this book and that one
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isn't in there actually yeah but that's
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the type of dude that I grew up you call
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us the 10 dad I hear these stories so
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your dad is amazing the ten dad
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Commandments uh fatherhood through the
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lens of hip-hop let's go over some of
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the Commandments oh let's do it okay and
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then duck father's call up
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commandment number one number one most
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important Know Your Role Know Your Role
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what is a father you cannot fulfill a
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role that hasn't been defined right okay
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so if you don't know what those
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responsibilities are with those tasks
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that you need to be uh over are how you
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going to do a great job so I wanted to
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first and foremost lay that Foundation
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out and also I want to dispel a lot of
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myths about fatherhood you know
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um you know that's the ruler he's the
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you know he get the big chair the big
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piece of chicken you know everyone bends
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to Dad's will
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the dad that I was under and the father
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that I am we are servants we're the last
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to eat we're the last to go to sleep at
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night until everyone is comfortable safe
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in their bed so I wanted to to paint
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that picture as well so that's really
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what that that chapter is all about
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knowing your role forget what you heard
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or what you saw this is who we are
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responsible for being as Fathers as head
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of the households okay uh commandment
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number two watch The Company You Keep
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when you cut the grass you watch the
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snakes you know yeah slibble out the
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garden yeah man I feel like fatherhood
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especially for me was a great excuse to
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evaluate my company and see who was
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adding value and who wasn't adding value
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but also who do I want to have access to
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my sons you know what I mean we all got
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that them homies that think it's funny
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to to to tell your kid about you know
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relationships with with the opposite sex
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and all that's if that's not the
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narrative or if that's not the
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information I want them to have then I
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don't want them to to get that from you
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when you just playing around but they're
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sponging everything in absolutely and
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what I also feel like and you know a lot
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of people may not be aware of this if I
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meet someone through you I'm holding
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them to the standard that I hold YouTube
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got it so if you playing around joking
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in my impressionable child you know now
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think he need to have four or five
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girlfriends then that's that's on me
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because I gave him access
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so yeah watch the company that you keep
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for sure so when it comes to friends
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then would you suggest having a
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conversation with your friends that are
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especially not dads and who may not have
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that definition of fatherhood would you
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just would you suggest telling them some
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of the boundaries that you want to keep
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of your children absolutely okay but you
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know for me it was like I I kind of held
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I have like my crews in my circles so
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like I have a dope tribe of men who are
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allowed access to my sons and we don't
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even have to have a conversation like
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you know in the book I talk about my
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homies will check me if I'm wrong oh in
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my fathering approach to something or
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they have no problem in front of me
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checking my son if they're out of line
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you know about something because that's
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just who we are and that's how we move
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anyway my father another story he was
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the only present father in my
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neighborhood like the only one that was
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there I remember we were eating dinner
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one night and we got a knock at the door
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A friend of mine his mother brought him
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to my house and asked my father to
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discipline him what yeah I read that in
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the book I feel like yeah yeah because
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he was my dad was the only father in my
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whole neighborhood like so I grew up wow
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with that sense of if you're a man and
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there's a child within your vicinity
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Your Role is to
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parent that kid if needed or at least to
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be a role model for that kid so like my
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My Tribe all come from that claw okay
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let me get through these other ones all
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right so uh commandment number three is
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protect yo so this is my one of my
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favorites because we all know about
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physical protection but the big part of
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that chapter for me is teaching my sons
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how to protect their peace
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that's Paramount my kids are still
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they'll engage with each other at length
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but my kids aren't going to engage with
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someone else who they know is not there
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to you know is there to just trying to
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trigger them we're trying to you know
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goat them into something their peace is
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far more important in Paramount than
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than any interaction he got beautiful
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kids too I just watched them play
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um they're in the band they're very
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talented guys I told them when they win
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the wars don't forget their Uncle sway
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all right uh commandment number four the
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ten dad Commandments commandment number
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four action get involved yeah man
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um a big part of my early fatherhood and
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this speaks to that clip you played
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before we started interviewing of my
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failures
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I
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I was a present physically but absent
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father and you can be that you can be
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physically in the crib but not really
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spending that one-on-one time I heard a
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statistic the other day that said
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parents nowadays only get 35 minutes a
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day with their kid yeah wow like between
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commuting and work and food and when
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they come home and cook whatever they
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only spend that little bit of time with
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their kids so you know my wife was
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really heavy with pushing that in the
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chapter she actually said to you you
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give the best part of yourself to your
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work and then we get the remains right
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bro that that me when that woman and
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shout out to my wife she has an amazing
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gift of how to communicate without
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emasculating like she challenges me in
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ways that make me want to be better and
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that was one of them and she knows how
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to talk to me because she knows that my
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heart is obviously to give my my family
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the best of me but if I'm leaving a crib
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and I'm at MTV and I'm giving them all
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this energy and when I come home I'm
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like uh then my then my family is you
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know which is my number one priority I
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have to show that with my actions okay
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um commandment number five told us a lot
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of dads on the line too so I want to get
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to them so I'm gonna move a little
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faster
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commandment number five and six five is
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love empathy and compassion six is lead
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by example start with five okay so yeah
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um and that chapter for me it was really
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about laying out all of the ways that we
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are to love so um and one of the big
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ones in there is affection men have uh
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sometimes a challenge with being
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affectionate toward their male child and
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you know me being all having all Sons I
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remember when my dad when I was growing
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up like he would kiss me and I would be
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like ah get off me you know get away
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from me but um and I said like I'm never
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gonna kiss my kids when I when I have
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sons and all I had was sons and like I
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was reading that you know
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um there's so many benefits to physical
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interaction like you know one of the
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things that's happened the other day my
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son and I we kind of got into it
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and I just hugged them
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and he melted in my arms and started
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crying because physical touch released
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it reduces stress it reduces blood
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pressure it releases oxytocin in your in
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your brain which is the bonding you know
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what I mean like so it's so many
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benefits to actually being of showing
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physical love to your children so I
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wanted to really you know for the men
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who were going to read that I wanted
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them to take that away like don't think
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of it as like oh I ain't got to show my
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son love you know I ain't gotta hug him
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I don't have to hold them
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think about what you're not giving them
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while by omitting that part of you okay
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and that's golden to lead by example
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yeah man and I lead by example for me is
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heavy especially when it comes to
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um admitting your failures okay
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admitting you're wrong you know like my
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dad would blow up at me but you know if
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if he was a little too Stern he would
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come and tell me look I'm sorry that you
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know I reacted that way and it made him
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human like you know our children at
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times they look at us we we feed them we
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take care of them you know sometimes we
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are larger than life to them but we have
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to show them that they're you know we
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make mistakes we need to be owning up to
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our mistakes we need to be responsible
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for them and be accountable to them but
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these are part of life you're going to
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make them I'm going to make them it's
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natural but it's how you respond to it
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okay
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um you're doing a great job by the way
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thank you okay all right you're making
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this easy but I'm gonna have to speed it
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up a little bit okay
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um
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commandment to ten dad Commandments
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um commandment number seven is
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discipline number eight is be human go
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for it all right discipline discipline
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does not mean beating your children
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discipline is also there's another
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definition of it of about you know how
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you should be your kids need structure
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so how you structure is also discipline
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and I also want to say this because we
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want to move fast
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explain to your children why they're
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being disciplined
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because if you're beating your child and
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they don't understand why you're abusing
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them yeah yeah period
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and so be human
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for me being human is kind of more along
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those lines of you know showing them the
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reality of your life like we we are not
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doing anything we're not doing our
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children Justice if we send them out
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here with a false understanding of
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reality okay come on number nine is keep
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an open mind and number 10 is have faith
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attend dad Commandments oh keep an open
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mind for me I have this amazing vision
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of what I wanted my sons to be they were
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going to be the the saviors of hip-hop
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I'm saying like my oldest son is an
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amazing producer my middle son is the
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greatest MC you'll never hear and my
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youngest son at the time he was just a
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hyped man he wear a cape and they would
17:22
perform and they would kill him and then
17:24
one day they came it was like we don't
17:26
want to rap no more wow and it crushed
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my heart
17:30
but the music that they make now is
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truly who they are yeah so I had to be
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open-minded enough to allow them to live
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their lives and not live my dream of
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their lives and honestly my dream is for
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them to be who they are called to be you
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know I mean I really believe that
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parents are a vehicle God gave us these
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children because he has a vision for
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them and knew that we would be a great
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mentor for them along their Journey that
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he set out for them to achieve so what
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I'm not God I'm not going to tell you
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which direction you should be going I'm
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just here to to nurture you along your
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way for your interests to protect you
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and make sure that you're headed in the
18:13
right direction and so the last one is
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have faith we always think that when our
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our kids are in our presence that we can
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protect them from certain things I
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remember I took the job with Chris Brown
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I lived with him for six months working
18:27
on The Fame album
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thank you I got it now that's amazing
18:32
all right anyways
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um yeah so when I lived there with him
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my first day on the job I got to Miami I
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walked into my hotel room and I was
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knocked to my knees and I heard God say
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now you have to trust me
18:47
because before I was always in Arm's
18:49
Reach I was a quick cab away from them
18:52
if God forbid anything happened now I'm
18:55
states away I can't mobilize this fast
18:57
but then it dawned on me that I was
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never in control I always had to have
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faith in some way shape or form that my
19:06
that God was going to cover them and
19:08
that they were going to be taken care of
19:09
when they're not in my sight I'm not a
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doctor my kid choke on the grape I'm not
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gonna be able to save his life anyway
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yeah so have faith have faith wow man
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this is my man that's the bomb Serranos
19:20
the ten dad Commandments fatherhood
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through a hip-hop lens this book is
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available now right now it's available
19:26
everywhere but get it from me because
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okay okay
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m-a-h-a-l publishing.com okay we got a
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few minutes I'm gonna get a few calls
19:38
Daniel was in Tennessee go ahead Daniel
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what up
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yeah
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um
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I was the woman asked about discipline
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because
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um I had a
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um my ex if she had four boys and I
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really ain't never disciplined them like
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you know as far as whipping them or
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nothing like that I just try to sit down
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and talk to them but now my girl we got
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a four-year-old daughter
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and
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and I'll I just wasn't ever happy about
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having a whoop her
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for you it makes me feel bad but now
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she's it seems like she kind of
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rebelling more against me than her mama
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because her mama
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um I'm trying to figure out how to
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get
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get my
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uh I don't know my thing back you know
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where I can you know make sure she
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listening to me right okay
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um Daniel just for the record I didn't
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whip my daughter either I didn't just as
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a man I didn't feel like it was correct
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for me to put hands on her because I
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didn't agree with what she was doing so
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I had to find a better way to
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communicate with her so I chose words
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and my words were quite eloquent they
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were probably more disciplinary than any
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spanking I could have given her what are
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your suggestions e yeah for me um and
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and I I in the book I talk about it I
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don't subscribe to spanking either when
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I was earlier on in my fatherhood with
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my older Sons I did but with my youngest
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son I didn't what I realized also is
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I've built a bond with them that them
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disappointing me hurt them more than any
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physical thing I could do to them like
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you know I built such a relationship
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with them and and you know I was such a
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a big fan and I was such a big supporter
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of them that when it came time for them
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to let me down
21:41
and you know which was going to happen
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obviously me just sitting down with them
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and expressing to them how disappointed
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I was what they did why they did it why
21:52
how it affected me how their actions are
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impacting me that to me was strong
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enough and then giving them a discipline
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a punishment that matches you know what
22:05
whatever you know actions that caused it
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and then being solid and following
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through with that like you know one
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thing my dad would always do with me was
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whenever I was on punishment or in
22:17
trouble you know he would always come to
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me and be like yo when you're on
22:20
punishment we all on punishment because
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I can't hang out with you I can't do the
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things that I want to do with you yeah
22:26
and now you know now we both you know
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that's good are suffering from it I like
22:31
your dad yeah all right Daniel thanks
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for your call you're a citizen get the
22:35
book get the book Duran you got a
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question real quick
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yeah yeah give me Grace way okay I have
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I have two kids one just finished
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college and my daughter's in college uh
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here in Florida and I
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I can't be a part I want to be a part of
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their life I take some I call them I
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help put them through college but I
22:59
don't get a text back I don't get a call
23:01
back and it hurts that I can't have
23:05
a relationship with my kids and it hurts
23:10
a lot and I asked your mom I said well
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can you help me you know with a
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relationship with them she said no it's
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not up to me it's up to y'all and and I
23:20
just feel like she could do something
23:22
but she feel like she don't need to do a
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doggone thing you know and it hurts a
23:28
lot that I cannot have a relationship
23:31
with them and I want one with them so
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freaking bad and it hurts I cried and I
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just it hurts me and it hurts
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listen I don't know what to do I'm gonna
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tell you what to do bro you got to keep
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going after them period like is as bad
23:50
as you want a relationship with them you
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have to there's there should be no ego
23:55
there should be no amount of times that
23:57
you reach out and communicate you have
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to constantly be going after them my son
24:03
is a freshman in college right now and I
24:05
literally told this dude yo every time
24:08
you call me I'll sell you 50 bucks
24:10
I can tell you I haven't sent that kid a
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dollar
24:14
that's how many times he's called me and
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I'm paying the man to call me you know
24:20
what I mean I'll call you exactly do you
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know what I'm saying so you know it is
24:25
that phase and I remember too when I
24:27
when I first got out of the house you
24:29
know I I was I was a little bit big for
24:31
my britches I was feeling myself and I
24:33
had to be you know brought brought back
24:35
to reality about the importance of him
24:37
again my dad called me one day and he
24:39
goes yo man I got the results from our
24:42
DNA test it turns out that I am your
24:43
father so you should call me
24:46
that was the voicemail he left me one
24:48
time so so yo you you these you know
24:52
they're they're growing up they're
24:54
trying to find their way they need you
24:56
now more than they ever needed you
24:57
before and you being available to them
25:00
and not and not causing a riff in your
25:03
relationship and you know making giving
25:06
them a guilt trip about not answering
25:08
the phone it's way harder to pick up the
25:10
phone and talk to somebody who just
25:12
every time you get on the phone with
25:13
them you they remind you of how many
25:15
times you don't call them yeah yeah so
25:17
just keep an open mind keep an open
25:19
heart keep an open line of communication
25:21
and eventually it'll happen but you got
25:23
to go after them it's not only your your
25:25
wife or your your the mother of your
25:27
children it's not on your children it's
25:29
on you the rhyme man we appreciate your
25:32
transparency brother and we we're in
25:34
your corner man and do me a favor get
25:36
this this book to all the fathers Ray
25:38
and Georgia Stefan and Phoenix
25:45
um Scott in San Francisco Kevin and
25:47
Charlotte and there's a bunch of people
25:48
calling Esteban how can they reach you
25:50
on citizens follow this man for so many
25:53
reasons go ahead oh yes so you can find
25:55
me um I'm on IG vs Devon Serrano and if
25:59
that's true slower if that's too long in
26:02
Puerto Rican you can find me at uh the
26:04
rap dad's IG the rap dads IG that's also
26:10
uh where I did my podcast that's a
26:12
platform I'll be going live every
26:14
Wednesday with a different rapper uh
26:16
talking strictly about fatherhood so
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yeah starting on next Wednesday 8 30 p.m
26:21
Eastern Broadway for Father's Day so get
26:24
it early father's day come on man and
26:27
once again you can get this book where
26:29
mahalpublishing.com
26:31
m-a-h-a-l
26:32
publishing.com I'm proud of you brother
26:35
thank you all right proud of you man
26:37
real quick we're going to Denver tell
26:39
them about why we're going to Denver oh
26:41
my God you got to do it quick though
26:42
because yes so we're going to Denver to
26:45
show
26:46
um a very special cut of a documentary
26:48
film that we're doing about the black
26:50
and bipoc experience in the Psychedelic
26:53
space A lot of people are unfamiliar
26:55
with you know the magic mushrooms and
26:57
these things but these uh these
26:59
indigenous medicines have properties
27:02
that can help with uh depression PTSD
27:07
and things of that nature and just like
27:08
marijuana they're trying to keep us out
27:11
of it and they're trying to profit off
27:13
of it and make it unaccessible for us
27:15
but this medicine was kept Alive by our
27:18
people and we should be a part of this
27:21
so you know we're going there to to
27:24
spread this message and let the people
27:26
know that we are the medicine
27:30
I said your last title man come on man I
27:33
love it give it up for Esteban Serranos
27:35
man thank you for coming through man
27:36
thank you I appreciate you brother thank
27:38
you I appreciate you
27:39
um up next DB had a chance to interview
27:43
Mr Emilio Estevez hey he's got a movie
27:46
called the way that he did with his
27:47
father uh Martin Sheen and uh it's a
27:49
pretty good story it came out this week
27:50
it was being re-released this week it
27:52
came out back in 2011 I believe and so
27:54
uh we sat down and talked about it
27:56
Kalani even got in on the interview got
27:57
a question in so yeah that's coming up
27:59
next okay and then we're gonna play one
28:01
of your son's songs
28:02
what's it called it's called Waltz cold
28:04
Court band follow them on Instagram cold
28:07
core band The song is called Waltz
28:08
that's the first time on the radio first
28:10
time cold Court band don't forget me
28:12
okay here it is Emilio Estevez coming up
28:16
next j45
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