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Ab-Soul Talks New Album "Herbert", Freestyles Over Kendrick Lamar's "Die Hard" | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Dec 7, 2022
Ab-Soul is slated for his musical return on December 16th with his newest work, "Herbert". Ab-Soul stopped by Sway In The Morning to share how he has been dealing with loss and success in his life. It was an introspective conversation that, even if you weren't a fan of him yet, you would be after this. And he kicked some bars over Kendrick's "Die Hard".
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you better recognize the frequency we
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are
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on you better open your cerebell to the
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frequency we
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on you better open your cerebellum come
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on we got free thinkers in the
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building we got free thinkers in the
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building that's what he said on
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long-term mentality so I went back right
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there Heather I like it I went back to
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long-term mentality sometimes you got to
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walk them up to the truth you got to
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walk them up to the truth up to the
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truth I'mma walk you up to the truth my
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dud truth long-term mentality yes this
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man is a prophet yes he's a genre
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Bender he's a lyrical Anthropologist
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longterm
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longterm he's a free thinker yes he's
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always going against the grain yes but
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it wasn't even that he was going against
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anything he was flowing with himself
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come on knowing how to be in that moment
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yes when he said do what thou Wilt he
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broke that down for me very eloquently I
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remember that when control system came
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out what he was talking about then we
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see happening now go welcome early we
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see it happening now I'm just a vessel
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that's it that's it I'm just a vessel
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you're just a vessel just a vessel and
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sometimes you people don't always
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recognize a vessel when it's in your
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space listen citizens it's Bigger Than
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Rap yep listen it's bigger get in the
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rap game listen he's a poet it's
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intelligent movement it's an intelligent
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movement and it ain't no room for the
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ignorance KRS too come on ignorance is
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by choice I'll say that three come on go
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get the knowledge do the knowledge tune
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in to what's right catch the right
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frequencies this man been on the
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frequency so long they thought it was
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something different about him when it
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was something different about
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you and now he's back yeah knew him you
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met him as AB so but let me introduce
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you to Herbert citizens welcome Herbert
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back to the show go come
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on hi Herb what up baby hi good to meet
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you how the hell are you man I've been
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excellent yes come on man welcome back
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to the show brother yes
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ladies hey family good morning you feel
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good oh man Church you feel really good
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it's all church it's all Church man um I
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don't even have an interview for you
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this morning I just have a just a Vibe
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just to catch up with you you look great
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thank you sir um and I was just thinking
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about I went back to long-term mentality
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because I remember a line um that you
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said in that um that when you talked
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about Chasing the Dream since I've been
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chasing this
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dream since Wayne made bling
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bling always remembered that line that
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was in
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16 I feel like you said that I'm curious
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to where you are in the dream now does
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the dream look the same oh man for sure
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yeah I'm just you know I'm I'm I'm I'm
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exceptionally present exceptionally
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present I'm exceptionally present you
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know what I'm saying Christmas is around
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the corner
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yeah right there can't help himself I
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can't sorry so sorry you know but I'm
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always curious about about that cuz we
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all start this game with a dream what it
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looks like based on what we've seen
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whether we chasing magazines video shows
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the whole nine uh you came you you you
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came in the game with TD as far as most
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people know you know and um released
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that first album years ago yeah I'm
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always curious to artist does the dream
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it are you living the dream yeah is the
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dream what you thought it would be yeah
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yeah yeah yeah and and and and some
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speak to that absolutely it's I mean you
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know like you said it's a it's a dream
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forus something that you that you you
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know you you chasing you know trying to
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you trying to you know hold hold in your
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hold with your hands like you know and
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once you actually do it and it's like
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and you looking at it it's like so now
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what yeah you know what I'm saying and
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and then that's where purpose comes into
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play that's where you know
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responsibility comes into play you know
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what I'm saying that's where you feel me
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that's
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when you know you realize you you you
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have a voice and the people are paying
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attention the people you know what I'm
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saying you know it's it's a blessing man
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feel good it's a blessing you know yeah
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real talk come on her and I got yeah you
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know I got to tell him every time you
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know I got to give it up to sway because
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I'm I'm telling you
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I was walking through here I don't even
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know what I was doing up here I was just
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probably trying to trying to get an
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interview somewhere around
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here wow you I mean trying trying to get
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an interview uhhuh oh man the irony yeah
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and now look at i r no no no no I'm not
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done okay I I I run into this this this
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black
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man oh oh a
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[ __ ] oh yeah I I need you on my
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yo oh I'm I'm in New York I Ain't
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Got You know I I ain't got nothing in my
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pocket like lint I said I you know I got
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my had my lady with like yeah what what
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I'm going do he said listen man went in
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his wallet gave me $100 said listen this
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enough for you to go take your girl to
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lunch real quick come back to the show
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and get you back to the house wow you
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understand what I'm saying and wow [ __ ]
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it take it take that you know what I'm
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saying it take those are the things come
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on
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manp Cross way come on man hey hey one
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of the first ones to call me the prophet
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that's I mean like that's where the
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that's where perpet you when you get
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here then it just when it's when you
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when then it it just you know but you
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got to you got to you got to be present
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you got to walk the path it's it's it's
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it's um you know it take a lot of faith
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it take a lot of you know courage you
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know what I'm saying so I appreciate you
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man I'm tell I'mma tell them any time
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it's all love
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though yeah yes it's all love though all
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love hold on man Heather I got to I got
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to dot these eyes man I'm very sensitive
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and I'm getting very sensitive it's like
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that no and that's yeah I'm glad and and
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see that's what that's what this album
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is about too yeah this album is about me
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like really you
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know you know peeling the you know
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peeling the onion back you know
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like you also also you know you get in
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into this you know you you could it's
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easy
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to go elsewhere yeah MH you know you go
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far away
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and lose sight
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of you know where you what it where you
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you started with that that molded you to
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be able to even get as far as you got
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you know and that's the most important
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thing without your
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foundation you know without what you
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know know your roots and and who you
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rooting for you know what I'm saying
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without your foundation you know you you
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you you're not sturdy you know what I'm
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saying you're not solid so this album is
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about getting back to self you know what
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I'm saying uhhuh removing the arance
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removing removing the ego all of the you
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know all your
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famous I'm going tell you literally like
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uh this I'm I'm riding with the with the
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Big Homie and and this is like early cuz
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after after do what th wi yeah I took
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like a year year and some change off and
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like didn't write or record anything
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because I just wanted to I had I felt
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like I had been rapping every day since
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I was a teenager you know what I'm
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saying like relentlessly like maybe I
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should just you know and and you know as
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you know like you know do with th will
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is a pretty heavy list it's it's pretty
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heavy you know it wasn't an album it was
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an algorithm you get what I'm saying so
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I'm like man let me let me sit back man
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let me let me you know you know I ain't
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I ain't want to I ain't want to do no
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more research you know I Ain want
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to you know I I ain't even really Listen
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to Too Much music like that like so when
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I came when I when I got back into it it
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would it would literally only be me I
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didn't want no too much external
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influence you know you can't can't stop
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the music You Know the music the music
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going to follow me you know what I'm
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saying but like I ain't have I didn't
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have my own personal playlists or you
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know what I'm saying I'm listen I'm only
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up to speed with when I'm with the
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homies and I'm riding with the homies
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I'm listening to what they listening to
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so I'm with the big homie like really
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one of my big homies and um
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he listening to some of the new [ __ ] I
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think it was like some like estg or some
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[ __ ] fly [ __ ] and he turned it down he
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like
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bro like you always like seem like you
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always like playing a character or
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something like you Batman or something
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like you you abso you ymf you black lit
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Pastor you this and that like bro you
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you from the hood man like why you can't
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just talk about none of
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that wow and [ __ ] just struck me like
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Damn you right you
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know after all this time right you know
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you get caught like you know I'm the
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prophet I'm the I'm this I'm that you
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know what I'm saying I'm the I'm the
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Messiah I'm you know you and you kind of
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you know and and and yes yes I am no you
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know that's what we doing here those are
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metaphors of me speaking highly of
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myself and when I do that and you recite
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it back you're you're that uh for a sec
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you get what I'm saying yeah I'm aware
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of that but you know you could really
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kind of get lost in it too you got to
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it's a balance you can't you can't you
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know disconnect you can't feel you can't
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get you can't disconnect from from your
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from your foundation from from where it
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started you got to remember that and
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it's you know it's a it's a practice
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it's it's it's you know what I'm saying
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and that's what album is about I had to
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cry I had to cry like I had to allow
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myself to to cry and not be you know be
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so be so like confident you sound like
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you have to learn who you are too yeah
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yeah or or or if not
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learn remember yeah right if not learn
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if not learn I'm sure I'm I'm sure I
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learned a lot more you know what I'm
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saying you know I you know I go to you
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know I go to therapy now which I
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encourage everybody if you're able you
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know what I'm saying I don't care if you
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think you got it all figured out go to
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therapy if you're able how is it helped
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you like can you give us an example um I
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mean in many ways um I and I keep it a
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bug I mean you know that's the uh beauty
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of therapy that's between me and my
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therapist
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yeah you feel me but the world gets the
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benefit yeah yeah right yeah it's but
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but it's just about you know it's just
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about just having that you know know
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having that open dialogue with with with
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somebody that's completely unbiased that
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she she don't know me she she get to she
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get to learn about me and help me unpack
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some things so you get to talking you
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know you get to you know she ask you the
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right questions you get to talking and
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then you you start saying [ __ ] that you
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forgot about yeah you know what I'm
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saying that happened that oh [ __ ] I
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didn't you know maybe stop to process
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you know you know we all go we all go
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through a lot we just talking about the
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pandemic which is one of the reasons
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what what took my took me so long to to
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drop it's been six years yeah um I was
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going to drop in 2020 you know what I'm
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saying I thought that was cute because
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of the the vision thing 20 oh
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2020 thought I thought that was cute
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that was cute that was cute but but like
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we said I'm glad that I'm I'm at at the
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same time everything you know everything
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is as it should be man and you know
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timing is everything I'm glad I I'm I'm
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not glad about the pandemic you know
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what I'm saying um uh condolences to you
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know absolutely you know anyone everyone
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who you know felt the wrath of that and
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you know peace and blessings to to
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everyone that's still here amen you know
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what I'm saying and
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um uh you know like I said it gave me it
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gave me a little more time to perfect it
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and uh you know I I'm here Herbert man
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come on man Herbert sat the release on
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the 16th 16th yeah and that's also
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that's also a Lori Joe's birthday oh my
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girl you know rest in peace you feel I'm
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saying so rest in power you feel me so
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that was beautiful that it uh we was
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able to you know because you got to drop
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it on the the the album release that
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it's Friday that day Friday or something
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like that so it's beautiful that we got
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to that day tie that in correlated just
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just it's a beautiful thing that's
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Divine man that's I'm just a vessel I
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you know and when you accept it you know
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what I'm saying it'll accept you you
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feel me real talk man Herbert AKA abou
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is here man um you got to get used to
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people saying
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Herbert uh no and see it's all good see
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CU that that and it's that's what I'm
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saying this about the foundation this
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for this for everybody this for
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everybody that refuses to call me
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abso okay you see what I'm saying okay
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right all right
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I'm I'm I'm herb I'm Herbert I'm Herby
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I'm little herb I'm big herb I'm all
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those things you feel what I'm saying so
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this for this for them but you know it
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just you know so happens to also
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translate universally so let's go into
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song and we going to come back man we
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got herb here little Herby is here
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8884 the Love
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Bug going play that uh that gang in them
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yeah all right gang okay 888 742
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3345 yeah man ganging him ab soul rest
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in power with a dough burger right un
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little dough Burger man can you tell us
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about him just for the moment
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man man that's that's really my that's
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my right hand man like we were literally
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hu huy and Riley literally like from the
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boond yeah like arm to arm I got the
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huie right here he got Riley we arm to
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arm like for real he wore braids out you
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know what I'm saying we look like him
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and we were like that you know I'm
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saying we was the balance of the
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universe you feel what I'm saying but
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he's still with me right now so I'm just
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the fusion now I'm Soul bger there you
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go soberer I like that man you know what
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I'm saying I like that um simple this
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album is called Herbert citizens 888 742
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3345 Justin in Michigan got a comment he
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want to make Justin how you doing just
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what up hey Justin I'm a super F Super
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Fan of Absol I se I seen him live back
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when he opened for Kendrick it was back
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at the Filmore about a decade ago and he
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he was bumping track too man and that's
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how he become my favorite me and my
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brother's favorite artist to this day I
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appreciate tell you dude we even come
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back and see you with the these days
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when you open got my picture with dough
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Burger I'm telling you you are the one
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bro black lip
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Pastor got the word yes that's love bro
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I appreciate you man for real man I'll
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be back out there too you know I'm
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coming back I can't wa hope you up I
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moved up to Michigan bro I'm tell you
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everything happon I'm a I'm a year sober
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bro
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and baby yeah let's do better let's do
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better man let's keep doing better so
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hard for me yeah real talk love it man
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I'm glad you I'm glad to talk to you man
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that's love bro I appreciate talking to
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you man that's motivation Justice stay
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the path brother stay on the path okay
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sir sway Heather B Tracy G Y awesome
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listening to Y all the time
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we appreciate citizen brother
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morning okay damn man there nothing but
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love up in this room right now manely
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I'm not even cracking jokes on the
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frequenc I love it because a lot of this
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yeah the frequency a lot of this reminds
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me of the conversation we had a month or
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so ago when G herbo was up here and he
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was talking about
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to right that's my guy he was talking
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about becoming unnum you know like so
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many things happened that he was doing
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things to stay numb and not feel
17:33
anything and finally you know through
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therapy he became unnumb getting crying
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you just letting these emotions and
17:41
everything out and so salute to you um
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for for just speaking on that I
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appreciate it so much abolutely I'm a
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big fan of names um I remember meeting
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you for the first time and I never
17:51
forgot the name Absol I was like this
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[ __ ] is dope I I I love the name as an
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artist I did and I love when people use
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their real names Herbert Anthony Stevens
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is a dope acronym the fourth baby come
18:03
on you could be has ajs it's just so
18:06
much in that but what was your first has
18:10
come on get with that you see what just
18:12
happened right there another moment has
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another the moment you saw hand you saw
18:16
their hand signals when they do that
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right there that's like that's
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interaction body language that let your
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body prophesies baby listen what was
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your first MC name cuz you said you've
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been Ramen since a teenager since a
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teenager my first name was snap G snap
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G that was though too n you
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can't we didn't you call we didn't know
18:40
the laugh or applaud right there no yeah
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no I got the time no I got it I got it
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from because I because my name was
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Herbert right I couldn't think I
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couldn't come up with nothing and my
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cousin you know my cousin um uh Dion or
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C you know what I'm saying he go buy
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many names he just gave me his and and
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made another one I think he turn he he
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he became mechanism or you know what I'm
19:05
saying oh really you know that's who I
19:07
was crisscross with like he you know
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what I'm saying so you know shout out to
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my you know shout out to my cousin Dion
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you feel me we still out here you feel
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me oh so he gave you the name snap G to
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[ __ ] that's what happened or was another
19:21
name yeah snap snap G then you know like
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tried to make it cool snap capital G and
19:29
that was never going to happen that was
19:31
never going to happen who was never
19:33
going to be the final Des the first MC
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names you got to figure out you got fig
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out yo yo you know what mine was oh you
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know Jrock a that's
19:44
crazy J for your first tell J hey tell
19:47
him if he want to battle I still early
19:50
he was TD early TD before it was
19:55
TD well you know know your roots and who
19:58
your root
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there you hello and like we started the
20:01
show Heather actually um gave this
20:03
prompt where it was really to embrace
20:04
your season and all of them and a lot of
20:06
people will be like yo I know my season
20:08
is coming but they're all tethered and
20:10
so snap G is still ab soul it's still
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Herbert you know what I mean all
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different versions EXA now when it comes
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to Herbert um citizens I did have the
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privilege of um listening to this album
20:21
before it comes out officially on Friday
20:23
the 16th and like all your other
20:25
projects um compelling as all hell I
20:28
really got to applaud your heart and
20:31
your head because they equally produce
20:33
excellent Art thank you and I was pulled
20:36
in
20:37
immediately from not even your words
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because the first words that you hear
20:41
when you press play on this project is
20:43
who your grandmother's words and the
20:46
scripture that she shared with you I had
20:48
to jot it down because it resonated
20:50
deeply for myself here it is Citizens
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for what shall it profit a man if he
20:55
shall gain the whole world and lose his
20:58
own own soul yes CH on the Move man and
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I'm wondering so what would you say to
21:05
someone some guidance if they wanted to
21:08
gain the whole world but didn't want to
21:10
lose their soul is can you have both the
21:13
world and your soul T the question T the
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question I'm be I'm be I'm be completely
21:21
honest with you man
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like I I don't I don't even want to I
21:26
don't even want to answer that
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I don't even want to you know what I'm
21:30
saying and you know me and me and me
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personally you know I don't I don't I
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don't want I don't want to I don't want
21:39
to own the whole world I I don't want
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that I want to be of service you know
21:46
what I'm saying I want to assist it I I
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don't want it I don't want you know what
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I'm saying yes you know what I'm saying
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I want to be of service so be of
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assistance so that's that's where I feel
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like it's profound you know cuz I think
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that if you that that kind of sounds
22:03
like greed right like cuz when you I
22:06
think that you know that's like kind of
22:08
when you say the world is kind of like a
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metaphor for every like to have it all
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right you know I mean you know that's
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why and that's why it's scripture that's
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why you know it can be interpreted in
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many ways I mean it depends on what
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somebody world is somebody somebody the
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world is their family you know what I
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mean so it's true what you're saying
22:26
depends on what your world is perspect
22:27
what your world is is you know what I'm
22:29
saying and and like I don't want I you
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know like I I don't want to own my
22:33
family word I want to be of service
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right you know and that's just my that's
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my interpretation you know what I'm
22:40
saying that's why you know shout out
22:42
shout out to goms man Y and that's a
22:44
message in a botle
22:46
Citizens Message In A B I'm so mad yeah
22:48
I got to go and I know he go you sp bars
22:52
I know and I got to go I'm late for work
22:55
Heather just said it okay let's I mean
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okay
22:59
yeah let's get it
23:01
down you had Ryan but I was so into the
23:03
conversation did y'all not think I I
23:05
mean it's up to Y no no I never thought
23:07
that I mean who thought that I mean hey
23:10
y I'm on I'm on your I'm late for work
23:13
yo hold up tus you
23:15
ready let me just hear like let me just
23:17
hear something hey but give me give me
23:20
something give me something like Smooth
23:22
I don't want to Let's Play Let's see
23:24
what if it don't work go ahead gohe
23:25
let's see no not R&B just let's see what
23:27
he got I don't want nothing you know one
23:29
time he beat me up one yeah well we did
23:31
that on purpose we was challing let me
23:34
see let me see if Ain right we going
23:36
find
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[Music]
23:40
it this my [ __ ] too too smooth for you
23:45
see see come on her that ain't it let us
23:48
know I want it to be right yo
23:52
yo look I'm at the Top If I in vitamin
23:55
and mineral how I got so toxic rhing
23:57
vitamins and minerals food for thought
23:58
for pupils with three pupils that they
24:00
really use nutrition for the mental not
24:01
just little kids in middle school save
24:03
detention for Deans and principles I got
24:05
a FN AP Chemistry now my systems full of
24:07
chemicals drop out about to teach them
24:08
who the scoo is yeah I'm my Pisces can't
24:10
school of fish that school a school of
24:12
fish classes in session sway had the
24:14
answers all alone that was never a
24:18
question yo that's all I need yo I stand
24:22
outside the gates of bucking hand Palace
24:24
sparking cannabis and Sergeant Peppa's
24:25
Army jacket feeling like a hero I sto
24:28
watching TV cuz it was too much static
24:30
on Channel Zero after that that I'm the
24:32
addict with the anot yes you're more
24:34
inadequate than you'll ever know caught
24:36
up in the rap city for really is Rap
24:39
City really is my
24:42
sis yeah Herbert in the building first
24:44
time spitting on Sway in the Morning
24:46
Herbert is here hold on uh yo wicked as
24:51
you know who you [ __ ] know me well cuz
24:53
Jack and Jail's pale he'll never quit WR
24:55
it like Eddie Mo on nzt48 occupying 100
24:58
0% of my brain they say you going to
25:00
sell or you going to sink they tell you
25:02
to think big then they tell you to see a
25:04
shrink magic this music Circle 2003 girl
25:06
have me listen to the listening that
25:08
they listen to me first little brother
25:10
break up now every day I wake up
25:11
somebody got a problem with soul what's
25:13
up you feeling irrelevant cuz my
25:15
movement's intelligent run a check up
25:16
like a
25:19
stethoscope keep flowing I get up keep
25:21
flowing n no hold on now yo shout out
25:24
shout out to the homie Mr morale yes Mr
25:27
morale yeah yeah that was honor that's
25:30
an honor man that was
25:32
honor first little brother I mean I mean
25:36
yeah man that's that's uh Hey I was kind
25:39
of that's was kind of I don't think I
25:40
ever wrapped over another one of the
25:42
homies beats before that made me feel I
25:44
was kind of nervous I ain't going to lie
25:46
you feel like you had to perform right
25:48
Justice yeah that was like another
25:49
feeling yeah we thought that would be
25:52
nice man salute to the homie I see I see
25:54
you brother how how has things changed
25:58
for TDE U now that Kendrick is going in
26:01
his Direction U yeah I mean you know I
26:03
think that's you know that's Evolution
26:06
man like you know
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um I you know I I
26:12
don't you know I it that's still my bre
26:17
like still my I don't I I don't feel a
26:20
difference like I don't know how to you
26:22
know what I'm saying and I don't we
26:24
haven't spoke on why that why it
26:28
happened or why he did it but I I think
26:30
it's love I think it's growth on his
26:32
behalf like that's what he felt like he
26:34
had to do on his path on his journey you
26:38
get what I'm saying and so you know I'm
26:40
always uh I'm going always support him
26:42
and what he do you know what I'm saying
26:43
but you know you know what the gang is
26:46
has it always been easy to um not take
26:50
business personally we hear that often
26:52
times when it comes to this industry but
26:54
we work with our family we work with our
26:56
friends we put our Liv into this right
26:59
right right right I mean uh easy might
27:02
not be the word but you know what I'm
27:04
saying like I don't know like and like I
27:07
think a lot of people kind of say that
27:09
Loosely too like work you know I work
27:11
with my family but I really work with my
27:13
family like me and Doc really like like
27:16
slept on the floor for this [ __ ] like we
27:18
was in like I'm saying like in New York
27:21
[ __ ] like all of us cramped in one hotel
27:23
room you know what I'm saying like
27:25
cramped in one taxi cab like m like the
27:28
whole the all of
27:31
us yeah like that's what I'm saying so I
27:34
don't care what company he's with or or
27:37
where where they go or if I speak to him
27:41
every like it it'll never change you get
27:43
what I'm saying that's the foundation
27:45
you get what I'm saying you just got to
27:47
I think if you if you remember that if
27:50
you if you hold on to that no matter how
27:53
far you go you know what I'm saying I
27:55
think that's you know I think that's the
27:57
practice I to to to keep that balance
28:00
you know what I'm saying the harmony I
28:01
love that yeah the yeah oh yeah is
28:05
that's a good word right there Tracy but
28:07
to go go from them bedroom floors and
28:09
those taxis to see how far this man's
28:13
star has risen yeah yeah [ __ ]
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[Music]
28:18
yeah hey and it's it's man
28:21
it's wow it's it's it's every man
28:25
everything is as it should be as it
28:27
should be real real talk nothing is
28:29
nothing is out of alignment at all when
28:32
you see um when you see I I EXC but the
28:37
um the rap game is going under a lot of
28:41
um it's been going through a
28:42
metamorphosis and it's been facing a lot
28:45
of success we've been having a lot of
28:46
success and we've been having a lot of
28:48
crisis at the exact same time yeah one
28:53
day salute to you hear about Gilly and
28:55
wallow and they cut this huge deal that
28:58
they absolutely deserve and you're happy
29:00
in the whole the supply
29:02
G worth of game they out there down
29:06
every day and it's just
29:08
like you know and then yeah right and in
29:12
the same week we lose somebody to
29:15
senseless violence yeah you know and I
29:17
know you're thinking man what do you
29:20
assess
29:21
from uh the state of our game right now
29:24
the state of the culture you know and
29:26
and and do you have ideas on what you
29:29
like to see happen um I mean you
29:33
know you know we definitely you know I
29:36
mean the world I think you know it ain't
29:38
even I don't even think it's it's our
29:40
culture I I think it's a it's just a
29:42
world you know we fighting for um you
29:45
know for for
29:47
harmony which is like you know which is
29:50
man sh you got to learn how to you got
29:52
to learn how to play in you got to learn
29:54
the right key to to be in harmony you
29:56
got to learn you got to all want to
29:58
learn and and try to you know move move
30:00
together that way you know in that in
30:03
that peace and that love you know what
30:05
I'm saying and you know it's
30:08
a it's it's it's going to be a battle
30:11
you know it always you know you hear
30:14
like it always you know get it gets
30:16
worse before it gets better you know
30:18
what I'm saying but you know they also
30:20
say when it feels like hell and heaven
30:23
around the corner you know what I'm
30:24
saying so you know I think we I think we
30:26
going to be just fine you know cuz I I
30:28
just really been heavily he I'm heavy on
30:31
the I'm heavy on
30:34
the everything is as it should be okay
30:39
and we on God time so you feel what I'm
30:43
saying some you know some some some
30:46
soldiers you know need need to be
30:48
upstairs probably you know what I'm
30:49
saying like that's just you know it just
30:51
be like that but you know what I'm
30:53
saying that's why I'm saying I I you
30:55
know I done lost my I didn't lost my
30:58
right hand like you feel what I'm saying
30:59
like like literally like it's probably
31:02
coming up on a year and so like but I
31:07
I I I could I could have either sat down
31:12
and not got back and if I would have sat
31:15
down I wouldn't have got back up but I
31:19
just stood I stood tall and so I'm
31:21
standing it taller there you go you know
31:23
what I'm saying like I said I'm the
31:25
fusion so we got to learn how to you
31:28
know what I'm saying use these things
31:30
use these take these losses and and and
31:34
use them as fuel you know what I'm
31:36
saying melt the ice around the furnace
31:38
burning inside of you yeah yeah like
31:41
[ __ ] so I'm you know I'm you know in um
31:44
you know Positive Vibes only man to all
31:47
all around the world man I love it yeah
31:50
Abol is here man I saw a picture with
31:52
you and
31:53
J thought I wasn't going to bring that
31:55
up you hit like you pict with you with j
31:59
i saw he was smiling so dead so de so de
32:04
I saw that hey yo C get with me man hey
32:07
yo ki get with me man Ked ain't never
32:09
got with you yet K has not got with me
32:12
yet oh yeah for sure you know come on
32:13
you after this you know you know we the
32:15
best I mean come on it's it's only right
32:17
we gonna make a clip of this and I'mma
32:19
send it D I'mma DM I want to talk to C
32:22
today say something to him real what
32:24
what you want to
32:25
say bring out the lobster
32:31
bring out the lobsters bring out the
32:33
lobsters okay we going to make sure he
32:36
get you understand we going to make sure
32:38
he get that sir I'll be remissed if I
32:40
didn't ask you about wondering in search
32:42
of pleasure that hat your we yeah you
32:45
you're so sick for that caught my
32:47
attention shout out to the homie man uh
32:49
Teran man this is his you know this is
32:52
Joan just like you know this kid he just
32:54
you know I I I just love the I just he
32:57
he he hit me up randomly I I I rarely do
33:01
I you know what I'm saying they be
33:02
helping me with my social media and all
33:03
of that rarely do I like looking to my
33:06
thing you know I try to do it every so
33:08
often and engage a bit as much as I can
33:10
I'm sorry y'all you know I can't see as
33:12
good as all of y'all but I I seen The
33:15
Wanderer like it just caught me I guess
33:18
and I clicked I'm like yo this is dope
33:20
and so kid been hitting me up and I'm
33:22
like yeah like yo this dope send me some
33:24
[ __ ] man you know what I'm saying and I
33:26
and I just recently
33:28
met him at um he came he came I think
33:31
he's
33:32
from um I think he's from uh Jersey okay
33:35
yeah he came to uh we had a tribute for
33:39
do burger and he flew out he flew out I
33:42
think he was out here just in the timing
33:44
was right and he got I got to meet him
33:45
in person so shout out to him man
33:47
youngon man you said you see you see how
33:50
the universe
33:51
work man shout out hey brother uh where
33:53
you at right now I want to say thank you
33:55
thank you to your contribution to our
33:57
existence MH I mean that wholeheartedly
34:00
thank you for the words you shared
34:02
earlier you do remind me every every
34:04
time we every chance we get of that
34:06
moment with you and your girl yes sir
34:08
God bless her yes sir right and God
34:10
bless you for what you bringing this
34:12
energy you bringing into our worlds
34:14
right now is much needed this frequency
34:16
you on people used to use language like
34:18
that frequency and energy decades ago
34:21
and folks didn't C grab it m now
34:23
everybody kind of in the language right
34:26
and so what you're doing Herbert
34:28
yeah um it's divine it's divine
34:30
interventure don't stop nothing yes sir
34:32
U stay this path I'm glad you outside
34:35
church I know you had a moment where you
34:36
didn't want to come outside you know you
34:39
had to deal with that and and this is
34:41
where we and this is where you arrived
34:43
he's outside okay I know you had a
34:46
moment where you were probably guilty
34:47
about your success yeah we've all
34:50
experienced that I've experienced that
34:52
in a big way to a fault don't be guilty
34:55
embrace it we had a whole today embrace
34:58
the season yes yeah embrace the season
35:00
embrace the season cuz your success
35:02
equates to a lot of people's motivation
35:04
and inspiration yes which would lead to
35:06
their success it's a success already
35:08
just seeing you it's a successful moment
35:11
and before we leave the Jay-Z say
35:12
anything to you that stuck with
35:16
you what a
35:18
leader yes tell punch to send me the
35:21
album that's
35:24
what give it up for ab soul man give it
35:26
up for Herbert man love you brother you
35:30
man love you come on come on man I'm
35:33
tell you every time every time I'm tell
35:35
you first okay all right album out
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December
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16th Herbert all right
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